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Say Hello To The Nintendo 2DS - A 3DS without 3D

Posted by Damien McFerran

$129.99 price, launches in October

Update:

GAME has rather quickly revealed its UK pricing for the 3DS, detailed below. It has a price of £109.99 and includes a 4GB SD card, as well as a charger — the 3DS XL does not include a charger in Europe.

Original article:

Well, that was unexpected. Nintendo has just revealed the latest addition to its handheld family of consoles: the Nintendo 2DS.

A tablet-style games console which is essentially a 3DS without the auto-stereoscopic screen, the 2DS has full compatibility with retail and downloadable 3DS titles as well as backwards compatibility with DS games. The device doesn't have the same folding form factor of the 3DS, but instead opts for a "slate" profile, with the controls arranged next to the upper screen. It will cost $129.99.

Available in both red and blue, the 2DS will ship October 12th alongside optional carry cases, which will retail for $12.99. The European launch is also confirmed as October 12th, but no price has been set at the time of writing.

What are your thoughts regarding this left-field hardware release? Will this be another Wii Mini, or could the 2DS continue Nintendo's dominance of the handheld gaming arena? Let us know your thoughts by posting a comment, and below are a lot of images brought to you via Nintendaan.

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User Comments (609)

Yasume

#2

Yasume said:

Are you freaking kidding me? Someone just linked me to another site with an article about the 2DS, but I thought it was a joke. Tuned in here and whaddayaknow, it's real 0_o. What's the point? You can't fit it in your pocket and if you want to play a 3DS game in 2D, you can just youknow...turn off the 3D?

Spartacus3765

#4

Spartacus3765 said:

I thought this was a joke. Definitely have to say, this is one of the strangest things I've seen Nintendo pull.

agumon1123

#6

agumon1123 said:

It doesn't look good. They should've kept the folding feature. Even though I don't use 3d im defineatly not getting one

Yrreiht

#8

Yrreiht said:

Good for those who can't or won't use the 3D since it's cheaper... but why does it have to look like a massive TV remote? It's not a portable system... that thing can't fit in a pocket...

Peach64

#9

Peach64 said:

I don't get it. Not having the 3D I get, as most people I know never play with that on, but doing away with the flip lid? That just looks weird. That's not going to fit into a pocket!

SonataAndante

#10

SonataAndante said:

What the heck am I looking at? That shape does not look very enticing. It looks awkward. That is so incredibly strange looking I don't know what to say. The clamshell design they've used since the GBA SP was perfect for a 2 screen device, so rolling with... this is just weird. I understand the point to a discounted 3DS sans 3D. After all, not everyone even cares for the 3D. I personally never use it. But that design is just really out there.

Warruz

#12

Warruz said:

This is their "children version" 3DS . Built like a brick, no hinges to break, and no 3D for those to young. Note in the video the kid is the one only playing on the 2DS.

Sephariel

#13

Sephariel said:

IGN did a nice video about for who 2DS is. Its meant for children 7 years and under.

Subie98

#14

Subie98 said:

It seems silly. However kids might like it and see it as their own tablet type gaming device. It could sell well. Hard to say

yvanjean

#16

yvanjean said:

Man you guy just don't get it.... this is Nintendo 129$$ version of an IPAD.........

It's actually super smart.... at that price they will jump of the shelf.

Jaz007

#17

Jaz007 said:

What the freak is this supposed to be?! No 3D and it doesn's fold. This thing sounds and looks pretty atrocious. I really don't see this doing very well. It's such a downgrade from the 3DS that it's not even funny. I can't see a kid being happy when they get this instead of a 3DS lol. The lower price isn't worth the downgrade. I mean 2DS sounds like bad propistion compared to the 3DS too. It looks really really cheap. This also looks like it be kind to use the controlls because the whole thing is flat.

MrMario02

#18

MrMario02 said:

Facepalm... If nintendo DID make a 2DS it should've been 3DS flat. It would Still have 3D and Streetpass.

bbbx

#20

bbbx said:

Like many others, I thought this was a joke when I saw it on Nintendo's YouTube channel. well I guess it's not :P

cammy

#21

cammy said:

Given the price... this could be quite clever. My wife and my daughter claim they don't like the "3D" of the 3DS and it's also under the €100. I could imagine buying it for my wife to play pokemon X/Y on or even considering it for my daughter's next birthday (it's within her gift budget).

Certainly as a parent, I'd be more okay buying a €100 device for my 6yo son to play with then buying him a €200+ one.

WaLzgiStaff

#22

WaLzgi said:

Well it is aimed at smaller children, so its design is not that surprising

Shiryu

#23

Shiryu said:

This console isn't for us, people! This console is a cheaper choice for those people who want to play Nintendo games without the 3D, for the kids who want to upgrade their 3D when the new Pokemon comes out, for parents afraid that the 3D effect will ruin their kids eyes, etc, etc... so chill. CALM DOWN, I TELL YOU, CALM DOWN AND PLAY VIDEOGAMES! 2D or 3D, I'm good either way.

MrWalkieTalkie

#25

MrWalkieTalkie said:

This is actually a fairly genius idea. A cheap 3DS that releases on the same day as Pokemon X & Y! It's easier to afford now for children and gamers who don't care about missing out on 3D.

ShadJV

#29

ShadJV said:

Why Nintendo? Why? I desperately hoped this was a joke until I found it on Nintendo's official website... The whole world has gone mad...

sdcazares1980

#30

sdcazares1980 said:

Since I don't own a 3DS, I'd consider this. The whole 3D thing was just a huge gimmick, it never really caught on with me. The deal breaker for me now is that it can't bend.

Zach777

#31

Zach777 said:

Horrible. It is simply horrible. Fire the guy that designed this, then fire the guy that approved it, then fire everyone who manufactured it. Erase this from your history, Nintendo!

DualWielding

#33

DualWielding said:

cheaper 3ds without 3d that's smart..... ugly as love design with controls next to the upper screen that's stupid... I hope it doesn't sell so the design doesn't stick with Nintendo's future handhelds
Watch the profanity — TBD

cammy

#35

cammy said:

Also, does this not look similar in form factor to the Wii U Gamepad? Could it be a way of promoting the 3/2ds as a second controller?

yvanjean

#36

yvanjean said:

Is it wrong for me to want one? for myself :) I hate 3D and that tablet like 2DS seem better for gaming.

Legodavid18

#40

Legodavid18 said:

@Shiryu Oh man, it's refreshing to see at least ONE voice of reason on the internet. Everyone's reacting like Nintendo is going to replace the 3DS with this.

SonataAndante

#43

SonataAndante said:

I guess that if we should be fair, the Wii U GamePad looked awkward to hold when it was first shown. Turns out it's pretty comfy and easy to hold. Maybe this thing, despite looking incredibly odd, is the same way? My only concern is the screens are permanently exposed, leaving them more prone to damage without a case.

rafaelluik

#48

rafaelluik said:

Oh my goodness this is awful!!!
The even less portable form factor, the lack of 3D, etc. I was hoping for a slimmer revision, only that. :(

WaLzgiStaff

#50

WaLzgi said:

Watch this thing sell millions :D

Sony should throw in the towel if the Vita is outsold by the "2DS" :D

Meaty-cheeky

#52

Meaty-cheeky said:

whaaaat?? WTF??

If this is real it looks very cheaply made, its like the 3DS version of the Wii Mini.

Konata

#54

Konata said:

I saw this on twitter and thought it HAD to be a joke.
...Why isn't it a joke >_<.

Kasplat

#56

Kasplat said:

Maybe the nintendo hardware design team was really bored and pulled a prank on ninendo?

Squiggle55

#57

Squiggle55 said:

dropping the 3d to lower the pricepoint for kids is clever. The design is the real question mark. Very unexpected and strange design. I guess we'll see what the market thinks.

UnseatingKDawg

#59

UnseatingKDawg said:

And this thing... it defeats the main purpose of the handheld! If you want 3DS games in 2D (which I won't lie, some of my games I play specifically in 2D), then why wouldn't you just shut the 3D off?

OracleOfTruth

#60

OracleOfTruth said:

I see. The lack of 3D makes perfect sense because young children aren't supposed to use that feature. However, the design is a bit odd. Perhaps it's supposed to make kids see it as more tablet-like.

tovare

#62

tovare said:

The younger segment doesn't have large enough pockets to fit a 3ds anyway, so why not. Nintendo goes a bit nuts occationally, but thats the price of creative awesomness :) Cool item which will find it's audience.

Kawaiipikachu

#63

Kawaiipikachu said:

Oh god.
Now it looks like the 3DS is getting its own equivalent of the DSi & yet it's even more worthless than tje CSi itself.
Yet I can't wait what myth the Media produce with this like they did with the DSi's CPU enhanchment myth.

sinalefa

#64

sinalefa said:

Question: is the screen as big as the XL? If it is, the pricing on this is awesome, specially for households with several children.

Gigagator

#65

Gigagator said:

Holy Cow I want one. I NEED ONE.

My hands hurt quite a bit after a while playing my 3DS (original version) simply because my fairly large hands are all squished in the bottom half of the system and it's quite a cramped affair. This makes perfect sense. People need to open their minds up a bit.

Plus, I rarely take my 3DS out and I never use 3D. It's perfect.

Where can I order one, Nintendo?

LordessMeep

#67

LordessMeep said:

Came in here from another site.. surprised to see that this is real. O.o

While I understand that most people won't care for 3D, removing the clamshell design is just confusing..

shinpichu

#68

shinpichu said:

This might be a decent idea if it were a legit handheld(i.e. just a 3DS with no 3D mode). I mean, I rarely use the 3D, so a 3DS with no 3D might have been appealing, especially if it were cheaper.

But this weird table thing... I mean, I really don't get who this is for....

Peach64

#69

Peach64 said:

I also think the name could (yet again) be a problem for them. Do I have a better suggestion? Nope! Can't really go using 3DS when it's not 3D, but I can see a ton of consumer confusion about wether these 3DS games work in their 2DS console.

SonataAndante

#71

SonataAndante said:

Hmm, it only has mono sound with its one speaker. It outputs stereo via headphones but it still seems like an odd choice. After the initial confusion I had, I see a point to this thing and wouldn't mind having one some day. Then again I'm a collector of console variants so eh.

drumsandperc92

#73

drumsandperc92 said:

saw Nintendo's Wii U deluxe price cut & zelda bundle, and was very happy to see that.
saw this and.......
dear god! what the HELL are they thinking!?
Seriously, a cheaper 3DS without 3D was a decent idea but there are two MAJOR issues with this.
1. Form factor: This thing is UGLY! And NOT portable. And they blew yet another opportunity to add a second circle pad. And what size is it? Original 3DS size or XL? Because they need to offer both.
2. It ditches the 3DS's main "gimmick" - the 3D! It is optional to turn it off on the 3DS already, but to release a version of the system without the option at all is a bad idea - it will only further discourage publishers from making games that take advantage of it. I for one wish that Nintendo had never even had the 3D to begin with, it hurts my eyes and gives me a headache. But this just sounds like a bad idea at this point, it will lead to a lot of confusion marketing wise.

One last thing. This is like selling a Wii U without the tablet. Maybe not quite as drastic, but similar enough.

chiefeagle02

#74

chiefeagle02 said:

Considering the PS Vita just dropped to $200, this actually isn't a bad move on Nintendo's part, selling at $129.

Warruz

#76

Warruz said:

@Peach64 I agree the marketing team should be fired with these name choices. 2DS if i know nothing of video games i would assume plays 2DS games, and when seeing 3DS games i would think they dont play together.

It should be called 3DS Flat ,3DSE(E for everyone), 3DSC(Children) i mean ANYTHING but 2DS

Pixel-Perfect

#78

Pixel-Perfect said:

Well anyways, it's definitely weird but oddly intriguing. I'm curious as to how this feels to hold and if the screens are comparable to the XL's. This does seem like something to consider for kids.

DualWielding

#80

DualWielding said:

its telling that are about 5 times as many comments on how ugly the 2DS is than on the long awaited Wii U price cut

IKAY

#81

IKAY said:

I wonder what they think about it... Are they as high as the 3DS sales?

SCAR392

#82

SCAR392 said:

It looks like a tablet combined with a GameBoy. I think Nintendo will be marketing this thing as an activity pad. If you think about it, 3DS can do alot of what a tablet can do, it just doesn't have that sort of market. This could change that.
Nintendo must doing really awesome if they can release such a questionable, yet familar device obviously trying to take a bite out of the tablet market.

Spoony_Tech

#83

Spoony_Tech said:

You people do realize that you can just disable the 3d on the 3ds right. This thing looks uncomfortable and looks like it would break or scratch much easier! Bad idea if you ask me. It might cut into the profits of the 3ds now. That thing is ugly and pointless! Worst idea in a long time and its starting to make me question if they even know what the customer wants anymore.

Chaoslink1

#84

Chaoslink1 said:

I went to the official Nintendo website and I was like ''Am I on the right website? Is this a joke?'' I mean seriously, WTF Nintendo?! I love u guys but I don't get you sometimes. Why have a 3DS without 3D? You can't even fit it in your pocket!

kereke12

#85

kereke12 said:

WOW umm, I don't know what to say!? Umm uhh why wasn't there a press conference for this?

eza

#86

eza said:

WT-effing-F?!
this is NOT what I meant when I commented the other day about waiting for a hardware refresh... where is the 3DS 'Lite'? Or the 3DSi?
what IS this? wii mini, now this...what's happening to Nintendo? is it the year of Luigi that's causing all this craziness?!

Meaty-cheeky

#88

Meaty-cheeky said:

Ok ok ok, with some time to breath I Understand we're Nintendo is going with this new 2DS, Kids to day are crazy for Smartphones and iPads, this New DS takes the shape of a tablet, making it more appealing to modern children, and adult will love buying this for their child than buying an over priced iPad for their kid.

Kohaku

#90

Kohaku said:

Not a bad idea. I am wondering how many people really use the 3D that much. I don't use 3DS more than 10% of the time.

Knux

#91

Knux said:

Believe it or not, I actually like this. The 3D is gimmicky and gives me headaches, so releasing a model that doesn't have 3D is actually a smart move. It also shows just how much faith Nintendo has in their 3D feature, lol. :D

I might actually buy this even though I own a regular 3DS and 3DS XL.

Gioku

#95

Gioku said:

Wait, I just noticed: it only has one speaker! No surround sound either!

Rerun

#97

Rerun said:

For the target market, I think it works. Only wish they added the 2nd circle pad. It's already aesthetically bad so why not at least add function. I would've bought this if the 2nd circle pad was built in.

Zach777

#98

Zach777 said:

Just read that the target audience for this is for ages 7 and under. The 3DS is labeled for 7 and older so I guess the idea is to get parents to buy this for their little kiddos. I can see the idea being somewhat successful.

Adults, children 7 and older: Stuck with your standard 3DS and XL machines.

ToniK

#100

ToniK said:

After the shock of how weird that looks... it's fine I guess. It's cool for kids and maybe for those who don't use the 3D. By the way, what's up with that?! I never turn the 3d off. It's what this console is about :D

Gigagator

#101

Gigagator said:

Yay some comments from people that aren't jumping to silly conclusions.

This system makes perfect sense and it will sell well. Looks so much more comfortable to hold than a regular 3DS. I can't wait to get one of these.

You get all the benefits of a 3DS system but without all the drawbacks of portable gaming, i.e. cramped sizes, flimsy hinges.

Plus, it's cheap.

Meaty-cheeky

#103

Meaty-cheeky said:

I wonder if this system is less power since it doesn't do 3D, maybe their is a cheaper GPU in the 2DS and now since the top screen is a basic LCD screen, that will also make the new system cheaper to make.

CrazyOtto

#104

CrazyOtto said:

Nevemind my other comment, it's real. It's probably a model from NOA instead of NOJ, like how the Wii Family Edition and Wii Mini were never released in Japan.

FernandoMachado

#105

FernandoMachado said:

It's out there mainly for people who don't own a 3DS and are hesitant about the price. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY IT LOVES X

Doma

#110

Doma said:

LOL, i like the idea of it. But there should have been grips on the back (along with the shoulder buttons). The button placement is the dumbest thing about it imo.

Why are Nintendo so incapable of good design and product naming...

Melkaticox

#111

Melkaticox said:

@Meaty-cheeky ...That'd make no sense. All they did was remove the 3D thing inside of the 3DS. They're not making it weaker.

We get it, people the thing is fugly as hell. It is, however, aimed at kids, so why not ignore it and move on? I already did.
Want to know why the design is so ugly? Because kids, that's why. They don't want to make the 2DS and 3DS too similar, that's why they don't want to use the typical 3/DS design. They just can't.

SCAR392

#113

SCAR392 said:

If this was replacing the 3DS(XL), perhaps there would be some question, but this is just another model of the 3DS that is way cheaper that will be sold beside other models.

This will be great for kids to play video games GameBoy/tablet style for a cheap price and harder to break than a flip machine.

GN004Nadleeh

#115

GN004Nadleeh said:

i like it, looks like you can just toss that one on the bed, and the hinges on my 3ds xl don't hold and i never use 3d

3Daniel

#116

3Daniel said:

This is PERFECT for my nephew who has nerve damage to his right eye and can't see 3d. And the price is great.

taffy

#117

taffy said:

Speaking with a level head, this actually makes sense from a business perspective. Like it or not the 3DS is competing with mobiles and tablets, by reducing the price this makes the 2DS more competitive.

Ugly as it may be, those shoulder buttons like a lot more comfortable then the ones on my 3DS.

Unit_DTH

#118

Unit_DTH said:

May get my son one for Pokemon X since I'm getting Y and have a 3DS XL already. The Clamshell design just isn't durable enough for young children. I think this with a case will be great for my son. Not an appealing design, but not as bad as all the complainers are saying! Plus, I don't have to put parental controls on the 3DS games so he can't play in 3D on this thing, as a parent this is a plus for me and my need for parental controls!

Cloud-San-VII

#119

Cloud-San-VII said:

Well, look at it this way:

If a parent (or anybody really) isn't really a gamer, and their friend/kid want a new DS, here's what would happen:
"Hmm..... my friend/kid wants the newest DS. No, that's a regular. No that's a 2. Ah ha! a 3! That's gotta be the newest!"

And if they were over-protective (I mean the way I see it, Parental Controls on devises are usually for those that are over-protective, but if they are really young, there are reasons for it..... I guess..), there are settings in the 3DS already! You don't need to be a techie to figure it out! Look at the manual, look it up online (which if they have Parental Controls, you can't tell me they don't know how to work the Internet).

AlexSora89

#121

AlexSora89 said:

I always thought Nintendo would eventually come back to the "non-closeable" kind of handheld... but this... is...

I dunno, I have a very bad feeling about this.

b_willers

#122

b_willers said:

Very cool idea. Nintendo.co.uk has a PDF comparing the 3DS, 3DS XL and 2DS. My only question would be is why have they removed the power saving function? How does this help them reduce production costs?

chaos_

#127

chaos_ said:

Gotta say it's quite interesting but not the smartest move by Nintendo tho.. I gotta use it hands on to determine if it's a better feel than 3ds/XL.

allav866

#131

allav866 said:

The fact that it can't close makes it inconvenient for multiple reasons:
1. It won't fit in your pockets, unless you got some cargo pockets or something.
2. You can't enter sleep mode, so you have to either keep the game on until the battery is dead, or turn your game off, which is bad for RPG's like Tales of the Abyss, where you have to travel to a save location just to turn off the game.
3. StreetPass is unlikely to happen at all.

Unit_DTH

#132

Unit_DTH said:

Although the official site does not have the Wii U Deluxe listed as $299, it's still listed on the site as $349.99.

Einherjar

#134

Einherjar said:

That thing is just....weird...and ugly.
But if its confortable to hold, why not ? This is quite a lot more "portable" than its 3DS cousains. No floppy screen that could snap on a bumpy trainride, 3D doesnt work on public transportation, so why have it at all.
This could be a really good alternative for people, who actually use portable systems on the go.

Kaze_Memaryu

#138

Kaze_Memaryu said:

This... is complete bull!
I mean, does Nintendo actually expect this thing to be profitable?! Didn't they learn from their over-experimentation with the GBA versions (namely the GB micro)? Or the Wii mini?

Wait, what date is it?... am I in the Twilight Zone right now? Is this a freakin' JOKE???

MussakkuLaden

#139

MussakkuLaden said:

That. Is. Weird.
I can understand the wish to release a cheaper version of the 3DS and not having 3D might even be attract some buyers, but the decision to drop the folding mechanism for, well, this, is rather weird after all.
For me, the 3DS is still too expensive, the reason why I don't own one, and the price here is certainly attractive, but all in all there's still no hardware configuration which would satisfy me. However, the 2DS could make way for yet another, hopefully better 3DS update.

As a sidenote, maybe Nintendo sees this as an experiment for a non-foldable one-scree handheld in the future. You could image having just one screen on it, rather than one that is essentially split into two. This would fit the rumours that Nintendo's next console might be a true gaming tabled aimed at unifying handheld and home consoles.

Anyhow, as far as the design of this thing is concerned. Well, it's certainly low budged and aimed at younger players, but I still have the feeling that something is going wrong in Nintendo's hardware design department. While DS Lite, Wii and DSi were great looking pieces of hardware (although of course heavily inspired by the Apple style back then), 3DS and Wii U came along decently but without any vision. But since the Wii Mini, 3DS XL and 2DS, it looks as if Nintendo let go its designers completely. ;)

stupidpupil

#140

stupidpupil said:

While it's definitely meant more for the little kids (it's cheap, no hinges to break, no 3D for concerned parents to worry about) Nintendo would be wiser to make that very clear. The deluge of "This is awful, why would I want this?" comments is bad publicity, misdirected or not.

WindWakerLink

#142

WindWakerLink said:

All I gotta say is that: "This BETTER NOT BE THE REASON WHY THE USA doesn't not get the special Pokemon X & Y 3DS XL!"

Veloster

#144

Veloster said:

I like the styling. :)
And I would find the overall idea acceptable if they stopped calling it the '2DS' - since every DS is a 2DS, minus the 3DS, lol.

Just think of it as a DSTab. ;)

Justaguest

#146

Justaguest said:

I though it was a joke posted by nintendo on youtube. Its really ugly and not at all portable but its still ideal for poeple who arent interested in 3d and want the cheaper version so Idc

silo2142

#147

silo2142 said:

Actually I think this is a smart idea, I mean I have a nephew who's screen snapped, then he got another DS, and like 3 months later it snapped again.

IxnayontheCK

#150

IxnayontheCK said:

Lol all the "this is great 3d hurts my eyes" makes me laugh. There's a depth slider on the bloody thing! Turn it off. This product ranks right up there with the Wii mini =x

jayclayx

#151

jayclayx said:

all the ds revisions were absolutely outstanding, like ds lite ,dsi and dsi xl, Nintendo must be joking with this one, no mechanism, no 2d? really? Nintendo its desperate to sell more units, ugh!

Meaty-cheeky

#152

Meaty-cheeky said:

@Melkaticox

What I mean is that the 2DS my be weaker in power, since it doesn't have to display the game twice like the normal 3DS, 3D mode on the 3DS requires additional processing power, and it drains the battery life like crazy. The 2DS will be able to play 3DS games with cheaper technology inside, since its only going to display 2D it doesn't need all of the extra power to play 3D like the 3DS.

Senario

#153

Senario said:

@Warruz what youu said. It is meant for gamers under 7 and is made to be child proof. Can't say I like the design but it isn't meant for me. I will be going play my regular 3DS

AlexSora89

#155

AlexSora89 said:

Also, I really hope this doesn't mean the next Smash Bros will be cancelled for the 3DS because of the title alone. I've been waiting way too long for a portable SSB already!

King47

#157

King47 said:

Why are people displeased with this?
Sure it looks bad, but the 3DS and 3DS XL still exist.
This will be another, cheaper option. I rarely use the 3D on my 3DS as most people. It makes sense since the 3D is an extra cost, of if they remove it and it's cost to make a lower price device.

raith

#158

raith said:

Nintendo is just fine with the 3DS and 3DSXL, but the 2DS is completely unnecessary. Not only will this confuse the masses, but all this time and money wasted on creating this device would have been better spent on funding more and unique games for both Wii-U and 3DS.

technotreegrass

#159

technotreegrass said:

This does look like a solid design for children, but the new button design looks like it could make hands cramp pretty quickly and switching from the buttons to touch screen looks too far away. I wouldn't be surprised if, like the GBA Mini, this finds a fanbase.

fluggy

#160

fluggy said:

Can't wait to see size of the 2ds circle pad pro.... Seriously, what's wrong with adding a second analogue stick for the people who want to use it?

RIC616

#161

RIC616 said:

Not sure why all the negativity. This looks great as a second system for my 5 year old. No hinges to break and as a result of dropping some features a really great price.
All those complaining are missing the point here. If you don't like the design it's not replacing the 3ds, you can have one of those instead.

jayclayx

#163

jayclayx said:

Nintendo, fix the lov... wii U and stop wasting time and efforts on things like this!

ScorpionMG

#164

ScorpionMG said:

this is too weird, Wtf nintendo??? :D
Well i guess its for the guys that cant afford a 3ds or wii u... just like they did with the wii mini, but seriously, you cant even put this in your pocket, WTF!!

Dogpigfish

#165

Dogpigfish said:

This is a great idea, now I can get my daughter one and not have to secure the 3d. Good price too.

gloom

#166

gloom said:

I just can't believe that people are complaining about this. You won't find another gaming company that is giving so many options at so many different price points. This is great what they are doing and the 2DS will fit right in with its target audience. So grow up people, and enjoy your 3DS/XL that was meant for you.

menasgens

#167

menasgens said:

What the heck am I searching at? That appearance does not attending actual enticing. It looks awkward. That is so abundantly aberrant searching I don't apperceive what to say. The clamshell architecture they've acclimated back the GBA SP was absolute for a 2 awning device, so rolling with... this is just weird. I accept the point to a discounted 3DS sans 3D. After all, not anybody even cares for the 3D. I alone never use it. But that architecture is just absolutely out there.

jayclayx

#168

jayclayx said:

Nintendo said he doesnt have any competitors but ts crealy to me that Nintendo want to sell you a 3ds as a tablet! what a fail

startropics3

#169

startropics3 said:

I'm fairly excited to see this. I've never been keen on the folding style of gameboy (SP, DS) after seeing my brother's DS break at the hinges, and I LOVE the GBA micro. Maybe this handheld is targeted to me, the rare, older gamer that favors simplicity. I also didn't care for the 3D option when I tested the 3DS.

Plus, the 2DS probably uses much of the same manufactured parts as its cousins, but with less cost to produce due to less features. A low-risk, wise move by Nintendo to undercut a low-priced PS Vita.

Morphbug

#172

Morphbug said:

Well... At least the select and start buttons are normal buttons in this one... And the screen won't scratch itself I guess... It will be scratched by everything else.

SphericalCrusher

#173

SphericalCrusher said:

Wow, super surprised. This is definitely kid oriented but the ability to play the 3DS insane library of games at $130... is, well, crazy! If my son didn't already have a regular 3DS, I may look into getting one. I doubt we will get one anytime soon, but I love the concept!

WiiLovePeace

#176

WiiLovePeace said:

Reggie Fils-Aime: "Imagine a standard 3DS laid all the way flat, and with the depth slider all the way down. Everything else is there in the system." That says it all really.

soma

#177

soma said:

There are a lot of kids out there without a 3DS because their parents were scared of the 3d effect. Believe me. I totally understand the point of this, a cheaper alternative without 3d might sell a lot..... but why can't it close? It won't fit in any pocket and the screen might get scratches inside Mom's bags.

Ristar42

#178

Ristar42 said:

Its a shame to lose the screen protection afforded by the current design, but I suppose a low price was the main incentive to this version. I do think it looks a bit odd though.

B3ND3R

#179

B3ND3R said:

I guess it makes sense... I mean, they wouldn't have done it without a reason. And for younger kids who should not be using 3D, it makes sense to remove the 3D and make it kinda tablet-y. I mean, kids LOVE tablets, and seeing how cheap this is compared to others, it's not all that bad. Am I getting one? Heck no, but I'm sure someone will.

Morphbug

#180

Morphbug said:

I really hope it will come with that little bag to carry it around, the old-school scratches these will get scare me.

Royalblues

#181

Royalblues said:

For the price, heck, I'd even get one. I just don't really like the fact that the screens are always exposed, because I'm paranoid about the screen, but it's all good to me.
The games (for the most part) will still be the same.
And considering the target audience for the machine, I wouldn't complain one bit. Shoot, even I got dizzy playing some games like Etrian Odyssey IV in 3d, and ultimately turned the effect off. Even my brother in his late teens got nauseated playing some games.

NorthLightSuplx

#183

NorthLightSuplx said:

Might be marketed toward kids 7-8 but the parents will be confused as all get out. Come Christmas parents will be asking………Where is the 2DS games section? And Target/Wal-Mart employees will be like do you mean a DS?

Ralizah

#185

Ralizah said:

So, adding a second circle pad would have split Nintendo's base, but taking away the clamshell design and 3D functionality is just fine...?

I'm sorry, I've supported Nintendo's handhelds all my life, but this thing can go die in a hole somewhere.

Technosphile

#186

Technosphile said:

This thing is hideous, and is even more evidence of how out of touch Nintendo is. Iwata needs to step down or be fired.

b_willers

#188

b_willers said:

The screenshot above shows a different icon in the top left where the brightness controls should be. It looks like a key, or maybe a spanner. Does this suggest the 2DS will not allow the user to adjust the brightness maybe?

cfgk24

#189

cfgk24 said:

THIS IS BRILLIANT! It will sell heaps at xmas for kids whose parents worried about 3d and don't want to spend too much on their kids! - it means MORE GAMES WILL SELL and will give a portal to the Eshop - it means a LARGER USER BASE and thereforere more DEVELOPERS will develop so it means more and better games!!!!!!
And you can browse the internet too! and no link to an Android account!

Randomname19

#190

Randomname19 said:

I was planning on getting a 3DS next year for Super Smash bros 4. but I'll get this instead.I don't care for 3D.

Unit_DTH

#195

Unit_DTH said:

@Royalblues Even with the screens exposed like this, if you get a carrying case you don't have the "screen scratching issue" that's still around even for the 3DS XL. Why are you all complaining?! Don't buy it if you don't think that it appeals to you! It's ridiculous to continue berating this thing just because you don't like its design. Get used to Nintendo's strange decisions, they aren't going to stop doing odd things that make no sense to the rest of us! Goodness!

NintyMan

#196

NintyMan said:

As much as I find this unnecessary, I guess it does have a purpose of catering to young kids. The design clearly shows that, and the 3D isn't recommended for young kids, even though I personally don't think the 3D is really that potentially damaging.

My biggest problem with it is that the 3D has been perfectly optional on the 3DS. If parents were concerned about the 3D so much, then they would have their kids use the switch to go down to 2D. No clam shell design is also strange, especially for the little kids who might not be very protective of their toys and electronics.

Turnip

#199

Turnip said:

I do like that they made a cheaper and more durable 3DS for younger kids, but I feel like the design could have been better.

Inazuma_Pikpik

#200

Inazuma_Pikpik said:

The flat design, the bulkiness, the tablet shape, the lack of 3d, and the low price point. This is meant for kids, not us.

Scollurio

#201

Scollurio said:

What the F... this is a bad joke really. Thinking that NIntendo devoted ANY manpower to this project when its bitterly needed elsewhere makes me cringe... they should just DUMP the whole 3DS and Wii U and come out with a proper next gen console thats easy to port to to get more 3rd party support and also dump the 3DS and make a compatible successor without 3d and a second circle pad! Really... what the?

cfgk24

#202

cfgk24 said:

PS VITA! OMG IT DOESN'T HAVE a FOLDING DESIGN AND IT WILL SCRATCH AND YOU CAN USE IT LIKE A TABLET - lol

DarkKirby

#203

DarkKirby said:

Well, this is going to be just as successful as the Game Boy Micro.

This is the crap Nintendo has been working on instead of a 3DS XL with a built in Circle Pad Pro?

MathRaph

#204

MathRaph said:

That was... unexpected... As many other said, it's really kid oriented. The fact that's its not even introduced in a nintendo direct is just another sign that's it's not geared to us AT ALL. "Your kid wants a new nintendo but you're scared about 3D? There you go, it's completely safe, it's cheaper, and it's flat like the ipad mini he wants so much" That's kind of genius actually.

unrandomsam

#205

unrandomsam said:

If it means they are going to ignore the 3D for the games I care about (In favour of 60fps) then I will be happy.

I am not happy with the build quality of my 3DS XL. (Gone through one circle pad just playing Mario Tennis Open for a few months. Got it replaced free by Nintendo but just stopped playing the game).

retro_player_22

#207

retro_player_22 said:

This is Nintendo's answer to Apple's iPad perhaps. Good thing I still got my 3DS and 3DS XL, not looking forward to buying anything that is a downgrade from the original.

-KwB-

#208

-KwB- said:

Guys guys guys, it is NOT so bad .. who cares .. :p We've got 3DS' right ? :p

One-Winged-Pit

#209

One-Winged-Pit said:

Yep, this is exactly an Apple move. A parent walks into the store to buy their kid Pokemon, they see this cheaper than the rest and cannot play the 3D their kid could use (do not expect parents to know about parental controls for the 3D) and they buy this instead.

ultraraichu

#210

ultraraichu said:

I lol when I read the news because I checked another forum the other day and there was people wishing for a 3ds without the 3d and give so many reason for it. Wish I can see their faces now.

I may be the only one here who think this but I say this a genius move. It's a cheap alternative and its kid friendly.

You would swear how people react to this they are discontinuing the standard and XL model. I guess adults online aren't as mature as they claim to be. Kind of ironic really.

russellohh

#212

russellohh said:

I like it, a lot. My 3DS now has 45 games on it, from the Ambassador program to Harvest Moon, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing etc. It would cost around $500 to replace if lost, and even then I would never get back the Ambassador games, or my save files for the most part. Sometimes I'm nervous taking it places. But a $129 (likely $100 on sale) 3DS? That one I would be less nervous taking places.

SCAR392

#213

SCAR392 said:

I bet there will be a system cover that covers the top screen completely. Also, it's basically the same, sans 3D and folding.
Now there's a tablet design as well as the regular laptop design. I think it will do well.

Thunderbird

#214

Thunderbird said:

When I first watched this video on youtube I really thought it was a joke. Like they are doing these dream team ads etc...

Silverfang

#215

Silverfang said:

I will most likely buy this.
I'm not a fan of 3d, I know you can turn it off on the other models but I would much prefer to get one that is cheaper which doesn't have the 3d.
It looks a lot nicer to hold than say a normal 3ds. I like being able to rest my palm on a controller and it looks like I'll be able to do that here.

This is a smart move for the kid market and brilliant timing with Pokemon out on the same day, this will sale bucketloads.
Only thing is it might lead to confusion due to the name.

idork99

#216

idork99 said:

@SnackBox(38) @yvanjean(16) @Warruz(12) Many great points made.

Although the design may look hideous to many, I agree that this design may be very appealing to the intended audience which is 7 years and younger with the tablet like resemblance at more than half the cost of one.

In regards to battery, this is still the number one complaint about the 3DS. People forget that the 3DS's top screen utilizes more power when the screen is in 2D more than 3D. It's clamshell design doesn't allow much room to provide a bigger battery either. So by removing the 3D screen and clamshell design, I should expect that the battery life should be exceptional in this design.

Although this design doesn't appeal to me personally, I'm tempted to purchase for the household. I'm the only owner of a 3DS and I have many nephews consistently asking me to let them borrow mine. And although I hate coughing it up, (because I love to use the pedometer daily and hate to miss an opportunity of a streetpass) I can never deny my children of quality gaming. I've been wanting to purchase another 3DS for quite a while to have a spare for this purpose and the price of the 2DS may put me over the edge to buy.

Turnip

#221

Turnip said:

I'm not quite sure why the 2DS has two outer cameras, as it won't even be able to view the 3D photos.

Bulbousaur

#222

Bulbousaur said:

OK then... This is the most pointless thing since the Wii Mini, and will fail just as hard. This is just using up a manufacturing line, and you can just turn the 3D off on the regular 3DS. Why sell a stripped down 3DS for less when people are happy buying the regular which is already cheap enough? Why make something which is going to cause even more product confusion then what Nintendo already has? This is a terrible thing for Nintendo to do...

Torterra275

#223

Torterra275 said:

EVERYONE. CALM DOWN, realize this. For this device, you ARE NOT the intended audience. The 2DS appears to be targeted at kids, 8 years and under.

unrandomsam

#224

unrandomsam said:

@Kodeen They should have made sure they could do 60fps and 3D at the same time easily. The 3DS is underpowered. Not a good hardware choice. Screen resolution is not an exact multiplier from the DS which makes pixel based games look awful.

Ryno

#227

Ryno said:

Good idea Nintendo, a cheaper version for kids in time for Pokemon. Makes sense to me.

WYLD-WOO

#229

WYLD-WOO said:

Really good idea for children, really reminds me of the Gameboy Micro when I was a kid.

unrandomsam

#233

unrandomsam said:

What I want is a wii U with everything built into the gamepad so it can used as a portable device. (Not bothered if it is thicker or expensive). Downloads only so need for the drive. Maybe support for a fast sdcard.

The only real premium portable console there has been is the portable version of the TG16 (Which is the same as the normal version).

NbaJunkie

#235

NbaJunkie said:

This is awesome.Il buy for my son when he turns 3..Maybe he will actually leave my gamepad alone then!I just wish the screen was bigger...

bofis

#237

bofis said:

Wait, so this is for real?!?! Wtf? Not having the hinge is silly, it's really thick, and the headphone port on the left is terrible. I hated the headphone port location on the DS Lite, and LOVE it in the center on my 3DS.

MathRaph

#238

MathRaph said:

Honestly, I consider buying one for my 5 yo nephew for christmas. He would LOVE that. His first nintendo console. Prepare a camera, I know I'm gonna cry :D.

GuSolarFlare

#239

GuSolarFlare said:

never seen such an ugly thing........ it looks like one of those "unbreakable" toy cameras made for kids that don't take care of their own stuff....
YOU'VE FAILED ME NINTENDO!!!!! you have focused on weird stuff instead of surviving as a good gaming company! :'(

TheAdrock

#241

TheAdrock said:

Its for poor kids. If it folded up, and was in the XL size, I'd say its a good idea, but as it stands it looks like a fail.

TeeJay

#243

TeeJay said:

My first reaction was of course "this is a joke, right?" but seeing as the intended audience is children 7 and under, it actually makes perfect sense. This isn't intended for me, so I'll just shrug and go back to playing my 3DS XL.

Prof_Elvin_Gadd

#245

Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

I have no problem with this, as it's clearly marketed at children and gives an affordable option for parents when Pokemon comes out and their kid is begging them for a 2/3DS.

Blue_Yoshi

#246

Blue_Yoshi said:

I think it's kinda cute, I can see that there is a need for a device like this in the market. The ever so dying handheld industry needs to increase it's reach to everyone. Plus there's no longer an excuse for not having a "3DS" as people who didn't want to spend all that money and only want to play a few games could just get a 2DS instead.

Kaabiitorori

#247

Kaabiitorori said:

Okay, after giving a quick glance to the comments... I think I am in the minority who thinks the 2DS is a good idea.

First off, this seems to be primarly aimed to kids under 7 who wants a 3DS. I know, the 3D can be switched off by parental controls on the 3DS and 3DS XL, but this non-3D option is a straight, quick option for parents aside from the price tag.

Secondly, design-wise at first I thought it could be an awkward idea, but then I couldn't help but take a look at my ol' trusty DS (the very first SKU) and then realise how the hinges could break. You don't know how many people (kids especially) had this problem!

Thirdly, this is an alternative model aimed to another audience. Say what you will about Apple and its practices when it comes to releasing different models of their products: whenever they release a new model or even a specs update of the iPad, people still will buy it. With the 2DS case, this is gonna attract lots of people who want not just a new model, but also a much cheaper 3DS. Not to mention, the release of a new model of their handhelds is what Nintendo ALWAYS have been doing since the first Game Boy!

And last, but not least... the 2DS is released the exact same day than Pokémon X & Y. This could mean an avalanche of kids wanting the game and the console guaranteed. XD

But hey, it's easy to say that on Nintendo they have lost the plot and decided to make a console aimed at kids and it's not my target and therefore you are not gonna buy it. Just sayin'~

sinsalaca

#249

sinsalaca said:

The gamer i n me looked at this and said what the hell are you thinking . The parent in me looked at this and went wow what a nice option for me younger son. My younger son tends to be rougher on things then my older son and managed to break the hinge on his ds. This model eliminates that worry. Also since he is only 5 he could care less about the 3d feature. He would be happy with the fact that he would be able to play the 3ds games that hid older brother and I already have. This will be getting serious consideration as a purchase for my son.

MathRaph

#250

MathRaph said:

And as things go with nintendo launches nowadays in europe, I bet you amazon will sell that for 100€

KingH3nrry

#252

KingH3nrry said:

I may actually buy this, I never really cared for the 3D feature. And it's a pretty cheap price, too.

MathRaph

#256

MathRaph said:

The more I think about it, the more I can see this selling like candies at christmas. They are loosing the kid market to apple and need to take it back, and I honestly think that's a very good weapon!

Tender_Cutlet

#257

Tender_Cutlet said:

Nintendo the business strikes again!!

With Wii U sales flagging and 3DS making the lion's share of their profits it's a no brainer they would target the demographic the 3DS scares off - children.

A real shame they've ditched their signature folding design in favour of the more generic "pad" design employed by their competition - between that and the name 2DS, it does feel like a bit of a retraction from the big N.

chewytapeworm

#259

chewytapeworm said:

Wow, it looked kind of like a big NES cartridge to me for a moment... Well played NL community, hilarious goings on in here!

LetsGoRetro

#261

LetsGoRetro said:

Ugh, come on, guys, think a little here.

The 3ds took off like crazy when what 2 things happened? Good games, price drop.

Well, the games are already there, and this releasing the same day as Pokemon could hint at a bundle with it. This is made for kids. Who is Pokemon's target audience? Kids.

What was the 2nd thing that made the sales skyrocket? Lower price.

Putting this all together now?

And Ps- What is everyone saying will ruin portable consoles? Oh, tablets. What's one of the reasons that'll never happen? Buttons.

Oh look, what is this, essentially? A tablet with buttons.

This works. In every way. Nintendo just decimated the portable market even MORE.

Shambo

#262

Shambo said:

One for the collection, and the collection only. Like Wii Mini. Gameboy Micro is still awesome though.

chiefeagle02

#263

chiefeagle02 said:

I do like that the Start and Select buttons have been moved back to the side of the screen (like they were on the DS) instead of on the bottom.

Flashman

#265

Flashman said:

I thought it was a joke at first. But from reading I gather its aimed at the under 7 market and that the price is pretty cheap. Makes sense to me aiming an affordable version of a popular console at young kids.

Apparently GAME are advertising it at £109.99 in the UK but no doubt Amazon will have it down at £99 before the end of the week.

swordx

#266

swordx said:

Funny...I actually checked if it was April 1st...I forgot the date because of it...

AyeHaley

#268

AyeHaley said:

LOL I can't be the only one who checked if it was April 1st today?
I get it but I don't get it.
Glad it's not a replacement cause I love clamshell handhelds and 3D.
I guess there are many parents who don't want their kids to use 3DS and don't want to pay for it extra. It does look a bit ugly and weird.
Maybe also used to combat Vita's new price?

Meaty-cheeky

#269

Meaty-cheeky said:

@MathRaph

Exactly kids are currently obsessed with iPads and tablets, this 2DS will definitely take the thunder way from Apple, the 2DS will be a huge hit, its cheap and it will actually have fun games to play, compared to the crap games on smartphone and tablets.

NoUsernameHere

#272

NoUsernameHere said:

I keep reading all these negative comments,And I'm like: "Don't like it? Don't buy it. Problem solved." Stop being childish about a Video Game System. Being childish to these companies will only get you nowhere.

ricklongo

#274

ricklongo said:

I understand releasing a 3D-less version of the system (I almost always play with 3D off anyway, athough I turn it on to watch cutscenes). But why get rid of the awesome clamshell design? That's the true head-scratcher here.

Emblem

#276

Emblem said:

I'm not sure why everyone is up in arms or hoping it was a joke. Its a low cost console aimed at kids that can play 3DS games. Can't say much about the design until i actually feel it in my hands. I'm guessing they spent little to nothing on this hardware wise since its probably just repurposed assets like the Wii mini.

PinkSpider

#277

PinkSpider said:

Wow I never saw that coming It's clearly aimed at the Kid Tablet Market

Having said that I like it, I would buy one for my Son

SigourneyBeaver

#278

SigourneyBeaver said:

@startropics3 There is a white & red model on game.co.uk so I just preordered that one. It looks amazing. However, they should have added a second analogue stick to save us having to buy yet another circle pad pro :'(

bluewolf85

#280

bluewolf85 said:

3DS have Parental Control able off 3D... I wonder why.. I don't like it.. how I put in my pocket?

AlexSora89

#281

AlexSora89 said:

@Mr_Trill281
This announcement is already messed up as is without the need of obvious trolling (seriously, if there's one Nintendo series that never stops being awesome, that's M&L).

AVahne

#282

AVahne said:

When I clicked this, I thought it was fake....but WHA?
This is...just....wtf?
Well at least this isn't quite as bad as the Wii Mini.
They cut out 3D, but it still has most of its other functions like wifi and is still backwards compatible.

vherub

#283

vherub said:

They placed the controls where the hinges would have been. If that improves the gaming experience and the larger tablet form means a larger battery, this is an attractive offer.

Alshain01

#284

Alshain01 said:

I might be interested in this if it had the folding form factor. I can't see 3D because of my astigmatism so I don't have or want a 3DS because I don't want to pay for 3D. But this is not what I had in mind, if it doesn't collapse and doesn't come in the XL format I don't want it.

childofacid

#287

childofacid said:

I don't quite understand the uproar over the 2DS. This is not for you. If you have a 3DS or XL, don't worry about it. This is for younger gamers. The clam shell design was most likely removed because children tend to break them.

startropics3

#288

startropics3 said:

@ricklongo
A few reasons come to mind: lower manufacturing cost, easier to hold, more durability. Remember that the original GBA was very similar in button and screen arrangement. Also, GameBoys had a reputation of being incredibly durable prior to the clamshell design. I don't remember needing a case or screen protector for my GameBoy or GameBoy Color.

So it doesn't fit in a typical pocket. I bet kids carry backpacks.

LetsGoRetro

#291

LetsGoRetro said:

Every single thing Nintendo has ever made has been quality, durable, comfortable to hold equipment.

Want to know what else doesn't have a clamshell design? Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, PSP, V.. (coughs), and oh yeah, TABLETS... How'd they do?

PinkSpider

#293

PinkSpider said:

At least this wont suffer with the screen marks that the clam shell design leaves you. And £109 im gonna get one

DanteSolablood

#295

DanteSolablood said:

Finally! Been really annoyed as my best friend who has epilepsy has been avoiding the 3DS as anything that requires each eye to see different images is potentially very dangerous (his case is quite severe) - although I'm not too happy with the loss of the hinge... the fact he can play this & not worry that a slip of the 3d depth slider will render him unconcious is welcome!

AVahne

#296

AVahne said:

Wait...are those...3D cameras on the back? If it can't play games in 3D...why does it have two cameras in the front...or back...wherever that is.

sonicfan1373

#297

sonicfan1373 said:

I think this is a good move by Nintendo although the execution is a bit strange. I believe the logic behind the system is to make it as durable as possible (hence removing the henges), removing the 3D feature will make the screen cheaper to manufacture and Nintendo no longer has to put the 7+ warning on the system which means this should appeal to parents with younger kids.

Unfortunately, the marketing side of things will not be easy. I can see customer and store clerks being confused by this when it comes to purchasing games. However, Nintendo can remedy this by altering the 3DS game cases for all upcoming releases and games currently in production. The box can simply read Nintendo 2DS/3DS on the side which should put an end to some of the confusion.

Jellitoe

#299

Jellitoe said:

Lets take everything great away from the 3DS and sell it for almost the same price :)
Nintendo really has some poor direction these days

Alshain01

#300

Alshain01 said:

@Koto Probably for compatibility with the 3DS. I.e. If you take a picture and transfer it to the 3DS. That's my guess anyway.

schizor

#304

schizor said:

Classic... But then again, this is necessary if Nintendo wants to keep the 3DS domination going. This might show to be the right thing to do... Hell, I... almost want to go buy one just for "having the newest equipment".... :-)

DanteSolablood

#308

DanteSolablood said:

@Koto Just watched the video in HD and it looks like there is a repeating circular pattern where the camera usually is so there might not be a 3D camera. I counted 4 dots... so unless the camera now records through time & space...

Andyv01

#311

Andyv01 said:

yes it's ugly but the portable case looks handy, portability isnt too much of an issue if you carry it in your rucksack/bag. it dosnt make the death knell sacrifices of the wii mini.

its going to sell like hotcakes... with cherries... no icing...

FullbringIchigo

#312

FullbringIchigo said:

well i have a 3DS but never use the 3D anyway (because i'm blind in one eye so i can't see the 3D) but i wonder if this has anything to do with that court case that Nintendo lost about the 3D tech in the 3DS

still at £110 i think i'll get one, would have preferred it to be the same design as the original 3DS though, plus without the 3D it should have a better battery life

Alshain01

#313

Alshain01 said:

@Koto well remember the rumor is that the MiiVerse is coming to 3DS, so if you want people with the 2DS sharing images on the 3DS MiiVerse.... it would be logical. I imagine the extra camera isn't that expensive, given that even pay-per-minute cell phones have them, after that it's just software.

DanteSolablood

#314

DanteSolablood said:

@Tindre I don't think so, the 3DS is not meant to be used by anyone under 6 or with epilepsy. What Nintendo has just released caters for both markets, Plus at a cheaper launch price they don't have to pay extra for the privalage.

simonbelmont82

#315

simonbelmont82 said:

dumber than hell i guess nintendo loves to throw money away . the only people i see getting this is children 7 and under because of the warning about messing up the young childrens vision.

eza

#318

eza said:

ok having thought about it a little bit, one of these would make a relatively cheap import games machine, so I might pick up a Japanese one so I can play the new Band Bros.

it's just a shame there're no plans to release it in Japan yet!

Great_Gonzalez

#321

Great_Gonzalez said:

It certainly looks unique!
My concern is the name cause people originally got confused with the 3ds thinking it was just ads with 3d capabilities and now this comes along to confuse people even more!

aj_fowl

#322

aj_fowl said:

@drumsandperc92 The target audience for this is children below the age of 7. Nintendo highly suggest disabling the 3D for them anyway, now parents don't need to worry about it. And having two young brothers, I can promise you that the most broken piece to any DS/3DS is the hinge. And look, Pokemon comes out on the same day. There are a lot of young children that don't have a 3DS and now Nintendo is making one just for them on the day that X and Y come out. That alone will help so much with repair cost. And guessing by the size of it, the battery life on this thing will be huge.

Speaking of the size, how many kids under 7 can even fit a 3DS in their tiny pockets? None because they all have Nerf armor on them because their parents don't want it broken. Have you ever seen a 4 year old carrying around a DSiXL in Nerf armor, it's more adorable then kittens. Well, it's funny anyway.

And as a final point, this thing would be amazing for VC games. The D-pad is a little more accessible.

FX29

#323

FX29 said:

I really don't understand what Nintendo was thinking. Okay I understand not everyone likes 3-D, but there really was no reason for this, you can simply turn the 3-D off. All this is going to do is cause brand confusion since now the average consumer has to distinguish between DS, 3DS and now 2DS. Overall a bad move by Nintendo.

AVahne

#324

AVahne said:

Hm, I think I can see the market for this now.
Besides, this is much better for those who like to game lying down or in bed. Whenever I have a session of Awakening before sleeping, I always end up having to hold up the top screen with my index fingers anyway. Also, the 3D slider on the original 3DS is EXTREMELY easy to hit and move, so when holding up the top screen, I would sometimes hit that, too.
So, this could very well do well in market. Only problem is that this will be more of a nightmare to advertise than the 3DS originally was and the Wii U currently is.

DanteSolablood

#326

DanteSolablood said:

@FX29 Despite being able to turn the 3D off, you are still looking through 2 screens, it can make people with epilepsy SERIOUSLY ill. Plus there is always the chance it could get slid on by accident.

Plus for the little kids than aren't allowed to have the 3D on... no more temptation & a much more rugged machine! No more broken hinges. :P

2Sang

#330

2Sang said:

It should be much smaller if it was id buy it but this is probably for those just getting one for pokemon

andrea987

#331

andrea987 said:

From Nintendo perspective and aimed for kids it's ideal. No 3D complaints anymore, no broken hinges complaints, longer lasting battery, etc.
There's only one problem: THE NAME! It's gonna create even more confusion to parents. "Is it a 3DS? No? Then it can't play 3DS games, surely."
They should have called it 3DS-TAB or 3DS-PAD, but NOT ditching the 3DS name, now it's actually gained some popularity.

KTT

#332

KTT said:

I was like - this gotta be a joke. Went to this site to see articles... I'm so done now.

Guitardude7

#333

Guitardude7 said:

I think this new handheld makes sense.

No really, just hear me out.

This product was made with two specific audiences in mind: The casual gamer and children under the age of 7 who can't take the 3D effect without damaging vision. Nintendo has a huge casual audience thanks to the Wii and this is a product thats ideal for them. It's much cheaper, it's look more akin to the iPad with its exterior look (targeting those young mobile gamers that play Angry Birds) and it's meant for casual gaming. Just look at the game presented in the commercial: Animal Crossing!

I will agree that it does look a bit ridiculous and that the button layout is a bit strange, but that's because I'm a hardcore gamer. The games I play are suited to the original 3DS and the Wii U. This handheld isn't meant for me, it's meant for my parents or my Grandma and that's exactly who's going to buy it. Believe it or not, this is a very, very smart move by Nintendo.

Also, while the name does sound silly, makes sense to the uninformed consumer. Here's a DS that plays in 3D, and here's a DS that plays in 2D. Simple and effective.

Alshain01

#335

Alshain01 said:

@DanteSolablood @Guitardude7 The 3D under the age of 7 thing is a myth. I know it probably won't mean as much if your not in the states but the AOA said the age is closer to 3, at which point you really aren't watching anything.

FleetwoodMackin

#336

FleetwoodMackin said:

It's for kids.. relax. Gamers are ridiculous.. But i do wonder how difficult it will be to hold.

I would actually like to see a cheaper 2DS XL.. Like a standard XL, just 2D... not going to happen, but i'd get one at launch.

MrGawain

#337

MrGawain said:

I remember a bit in a Zelda Game (phantom hourglass?) where you had to close the DS to stamp a piece of paper. How would that work on this thing?

DanteSolablood

#338

DanteSolablood said:

@Alshain01 True, but they DO have to warn against it anyway & this effects sales. And as I've already stated, turning the 3D off does not entirely remove the effect it has on the eyes. So my friend with sever epilepsy can actually jump on this generation of handheld at last.

Silly as it looks.

BTW, have confirmed it DOES still have the 3D camera, supposedly so you can share 3D pictures to a friend with a 3DS. Of course without being able to see whether the 3D effect has worked in advance they'll all look SHOCKING. :D

GiftedGimp

#339

GiftedGimp said:

Actually the price point, not having to account for the 3D screen makes this a viable option to those of us who have trouble with 3D images. Yes you can simply turn off the 3D on a 3DS but why should I have to pay extra for tech that I simply can't/wont use. The only thing I don't like is the open design, I would of prefered Nintendo made it fold like the 3DS to protect the screens when not in use. Also I'm assuming the screen is the sime size and rez as the standard 3DS.
Of it folded ans was XL size then I'd of probably got this at launch.

triforcepower73

#340

triforcepower73 said:

@andrea987 I've had many a parent ask me what that was in my hand. I always say it's the upgrade from the DS called the 3DS. They say "Oh so it just plays DS games in 3D?" Some reason when it comes to Nintendo consoles people just don't know that certain systems play certain games. But when it's Microsoft or Sony it doesn't. They can just add a number to the brand name.

Alshain01

#341

Alshain01 said:

@DanteSolablood True, it will be good for your friend, but "people with epilepsy" isn't a usual business market. Of course, I'm playing devil's advocate here, I like the idea from a price point. Personally I can't see artificial 3D, never have been able to on the 3DS or theaters, so I like the idea of it being cheaper, I just would have liked the clam shell form factor better.

Pete_Stooge

#342

Pete_Stooge said:

IN CASE ANYONE FORGOT: YOU CAN TURN THE DARN 3D OFF, SO WHAT'S NEW? .....besides that i think it looks pretty cool, i can see it this work.

Doma

#343

Doma said:

For the first time ever, the original model will remain as the best version.... SMDH

DarkCoolEdge

#344

DarkCoolEdge said:

2DS:
It's amazing how short-sighted is the people. "Nintendoomed!" "OMG this HAS to be a joke" "Iwata has to be fired" and all the crap that is flowing on the net right now is ridiculous and just shows that either a)People doesn't read b)the intelligence is not as widespread as previously thought. 

The handheld has a really weird design but:

  • it is meant for kids. They can't use the 3D so, why keep it a model destined for them?
  • the lack of folding is meant for them too, harder to break it.
  • if you think about its design, is not that bad. It resembles a tablet which are all the rage right now and if we are to believe the people that has tried it, it is not uncomfortable
  • Last but not least, the other models (3DS and 3DS XL) won't be wiped off, this is just another model, built for an especific demographic.

If this doesn't convinced you, I don't care. DEAL WITH IT  ;)

rosebud

#346

rosebud said:

Though the device is slightly ugly and name (2DS???) is confusing, I believe this is actually a very smart move by Nintendo. Look at their lineup for Christmas:

The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Mario Party: Island Tour
Pokemon X/Y

They hit all their major user audiences with those three releases and then offer cheap hardware to allow for playing the new games. It (and the rest of the 3DS family) will sell like crazy. Good move.

rjejr

#348

rjejr said:

Probably no point in posting at the 350 mark but to all of you who've commented on me saying a new 3DS was coming but you said it was still too soon for Nintnedo to make a new 3DS, well...

Of course this isn't real, no way no how, but if it were...

Jahir

#350

Jahir said:

Wow, this looks like a smart move. It's the perfect choice for the people who still don't get a 3DS because of the dizzyness that causes the 3DS on them and for the little kids who aren't supposed to use it, I think I'll buy one for my little cousin.

And for all the whiners.., YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT. Come on people, use your common sense, this isn't aimed for you and we still have 3DS and 3DS XL. Stop it.

Moshugan

#351

Moshugan said:

Hey.. well.. what?
I was totally expecting a remodel at some point soon, but it was totally unexpected how they did it! :D

DanteSolablood

#353

DanteSolablood said:

@Alshain01 I agree, would have loved it to have retained the clamshell too... but then it would have lost it's second market "young kids". Hinges break, fact of life & while I agree the 3D effect on under 7's is a myth... Nintendo still has to legally warn parents not to let them play the 3DS. Now parents can let their kids play without that niggling doubt.

Not a coincident it's a little kid playing the 2DS in the advert.

Guitardude7

#355

Guitardude7 said:

@Alshain01 Myth or not, it's still a lingering piece of knowledge floating around. Some people will believe it, others not. This is for the people that believe it will. This is strictly for, the casual gamer.

DanteSolablood

#356

DanteSolablood said:

@Pete_Stooge
a) It does not 100% turn off, meaning people with eye related issues can still get agitation & migraines.

b) 3D is cool, teling a 5 year old not to turn the 3D on when your back is turned is like telling Bowser to lay off the princesses.

c) This is designed for the young kids, hence the lack of hinges. So why have the 3D at all? You'd just be charging them for something they can't use.

d) It's a slider, not a button. Lol, sorry... just being picky. :D

Doma

#358

Doma said:

@MIPS Alternatives are fine, but one was already enough. When there's plenty of ways in which they could actually improve the system (battery life, ergonomics, dual pads etc.). At this point in its life it needs an upgrade, not another pointless alternative.

rjejr

#359

rjejr said:

@Damo - The screen is the same size as the original 3DS, which sells for $169, and this is $129, doesn't have a hinge, doesn't have a 3D screen, and is too small to pocket? Shouldn't it be $99?

Good comparison w/ the Mini Wii. Only that wans't as ugly.

The only purpose this could serve is if it worked as a Wii U controller. Actually not even then at $129. Nonsense.

MathRaph

#360

MathRaph said:

@Alshain01 It doesn't matter. Parents won't just take that risk. And the slider argument doesn't work either.
I actually had this argument with my sister when I upgraded to the XL. I wanted to give my original 3DS to my 5yo nephew, and she didn't want me to. Why? "Well, you never know."
Saying "There is not 3d whatsoever in this" is so much simpler than "Hey but if you want you can turn it OFF and lock via parental blablabla"...

If nintendo took some of his precious time to design this, than it's a real issue for them. And it's been from the very beginning.

Pachterkid

#362

Pachterkid said:

Well this came out of nowhere. I'm perfectly happy with my XL, even if I only ever play with the 3D on min. Well see how this plays out I guess.

Caryslan

#364

Caryslan said:

To be honest, were it not for the fact that I already own a 3DS and I love the clamshell design, I would consider this. I have seen very few 3DS games that use the 3D feature, and it pretty much stays off on my 3DS to save battery power. I'm not saying the 3D is useless, but its pretty much a gimmick unlike the Wiimote and Wii U Gamepad. With that said, this is a great idea for people who don't care or want the 3D on their systems.

I like this revision. Nintendo can pretty much target 3 separate markets at once.

NewBond

#365

NewBond said:

Do you suppose this was also built in response to the lawsuit over the 3D technology patent, hedging their bets in case there was an injunction? Then, since they were only ordered to pay him cash, they further considered the cost savings and used the model for helping parents pocketbooks and children's eyes? It also helps prevent other lawsuits, since there's a "default off" option...

This was an extremely calculated move following their core ideology, in my opinion...stay out of trouble and get games in EVERYONE'S hands...

Emblem

#367

Emblem said:

Why is it that not a single site has picked up on the fact this is launching at the same time as Pokemon X & Y and has the same color scheme? If they do a bundle this is going to sell shedloads in addition to the 3DS's that will sell to the older crowds.

DanteSolablood

#368

DanteSolablood said:

@NewBond No, much like Sony when they lost their case on the DualShock2, they would still be able to sell the 3DS but a small amount of the profit would go to the 3D tech owners. Ninetendo make enough from each console that it shouldn't matter.

@Others It seems a lot of people are making the statement "I'm happy with my 3DS or 3DS XL"... well good! It's not for you!!! It's for little kids who aren't allowed to use 3D and break hinges (which they do). It seems that too many people are thinking about themselves & not asking who this IS designed for.

MathRaph

#370

MathRaph said:

I've already said that, but I think it's a perfect version for LITTLE KIDS. Very focused, very nintendo, solves issues and has a popular form factor for this specific market. But come on nintendo, just market this thing correctly! Just look at this feed. Tons of people don't understand it's not aimed to them, just say it clearly! It's for kids! K-I-D-S

KDChronos

#371

KDChronos said:

People if you see the images, in the bellow part of each 2ds model, it have a sleep slide, that is going to make the 2ds go to sleep model

Interneto

#372

Interneto said:

@andrea987 But then those parents would say "A 3DS tab/wtv, son? You want a device that its 3D can damage your precious six-year-old eyes?! Never!! (rages)"

At least with this name parents will understand that 2DS's games are not in 3D at all. But then they will think that they have to buy games for the 2DS and they won't find it anywhere...

DaveGX

#373

DaveGX said:

OK, no offense, but this 1's a MAJOR design flaw: 1st the buttons being right next to the top screen?? Next, it doesn't fold up, not to mention throwing away 3D?! Wth is Nintendo thinking?? I really hate to say it, but this thing is just starting to make them look desparate like they're already losing, no offense.

DanteSolablood

#374

DanteSolablood said:

@Haywired The 7 and older recommendations on the 3DS is because of the 3D effect, unfortunately Nintendo didn't find out about the classification until AFTER they announced the console. Children under 8 have always been into gaming - some of my friends kids have their own original DS' & they're no older than 5. It's a big market Nintendo missed out due to a test result they couldn't have foreseen.

FX29

#375

FX29 said:

Okay I take back my words about this being a bad move, I blindly scrutinized the system without realizing what it was intended for: the new comer. The 2DS is a great way for casual people and young children to get into games. I personally won't be picking this up since I already own the original model of the 3DS.

MathRaph

#376

MathRaph said:

@NewBond Honestly I don't think they care about this lawsuit. They would have if they had to put 3ds out of market, but money? That's nothing. It's almost like they won.

DanteSolablood

#378

DanteSolablood said:

@SanderEvers Then Stepan spent 3 days in hospital from a completely coincidental fit. Either way, if there is no slider... the under 7's can't be tempted to turn it on when their parents aren't in the room. :P

tanookisuit

#379

tanookisuit said:

Genius move on their part. You mitigate any chance of parents or adults(buying for them) who lack personal responsibility reasons having a right to sue NOA over eye damage from 3D as this exists. Kids can't use 3D due to eye damage so it was a wasted expense to them and us buyers. People with one eye or conditions that distort the ability to see 3D would benefit too.

The $40 reduction comes at the same time as as Pokemon X, Pokemon Y, Mario Party and Zelda all launch for...$40! The system now at $130 undercuts the hell out of the their own 3D version and the Vita, and the slice gets you a game for the price of the original hardware to get you started.

Being one solid unit it will weigh slightly less, be far more durable with no hinge problems, and depending on the user probably more comfortable too. For those fearing portability, kids don't stuff things like this in little pockets, that's what backpacks are for. They also have a $13 case to buy day one to stuff it away to keep the play/view area safe. It's an all around win, should be offensive to no one except those who like to piss and moan.

Mk_II

#380

Mk_II said:

i dunno... think this might confuse the average consumer (ie. parents). On the other hand, Nintendo probably did some market research that suggested this product. But why ditch the clamshell design? It must be a lot cheaper to manufacture it this way otherwise that makes no sense

citizenerased

#381

citizenerased said:

I'd buy this over the regular 3DS. There, I said it. I don't have a 3DS yet, I only play at home so I don't need it to be mobile. That being said, I do want the bigger XL screens. Bigger screens, or almost $100 cheaper...

MathRaph

#382

MathRaph said:

@Interneto Well, It's written on the front of the box, and I bet it will be on every commercials. It's already starting, just look at the video. "It plays all 3ds games and over 2000 ds games"

Haywired

#384

Haywired said:

@DanteSolablood
Sorry, in the time you wrote that I deleted my comment because I realized it was actually quite boring... Obviously yes, under 7s play games, but actually Nintendo has usually put 7 or 8 as the official recommended minimum age on its consoles, not just the 3DS. And in Nintendo's official console demographics graphs (oh dear, it's getting boring again...) they start at 7.

NewBond

#387

NewBond said:

@Interneto Good point on the "2DS games"; there is no lower limit to the ignorance of some parents.

However, if I were a parent, I'd be all over this to include my kids in my video gaming.

yuwarite

#388

yuwarite said:

The 3DS XL - one of the best portables ever designed - isn't going anywhere, people! This is basically a baby version of the 3DS, with no 3D, so you're 6 year old won't accidently burn their eyes out, no hinges so they won't stupidly snap it in half when trying to open it. It's very pick up and play in its design. It's a cheap and safe child-pacifier, basically.

Kirk

#389

Kirk said:

It's not a terrible concept but why is it fatter at the top than the bottom?

That just looks silly.

Also, I would prefer this to be selling for $99.99 as a more reasonable "entry level" price for kids under 7.

Edit: At £109.99 in the UK it's not THAT bad but why not just go for £99.99, that's a much more attractive number, and really make people happy.

Klimbatize

#391

Klimbatize said:

Oh nice. Now I don't have to worry about my hinges when my kid plays my 3DS. I can just get him this brick. I like the option.

For people dumping on this...it's not meant for you. It's meant for kids who aren't supposed to use 3D, and that's also why it doesn't fold. Harder to break that way. I'm not quite understanding the backlash. It's not like this is taking the place of the 3DS. And this isn't a statement on Nintendo's commitment to 3D, as others have implied in this thread...it's so parents don't have to worry about the 3D at all for their kids.

DanteSolablood

#392

DanteSolablood said:

@Kirk Hah ha, it's fatter at the top so the screen angles towards you when it's placed on a desk. Considering the little kids it's designed for won't be able to hold it up for long, it's quite a good idea.

yuwarite

#394

yuwarite said:

Even the trailer starts with a little kid playing it, then shows his Dad using the XL - this is very much aimed at kids.

gamelall

#396

gamelall said:

@Yasume seriously, why is everyone getting so worked up over this. I think this was a brilliant move by Nintendo. This device is aimed at a completely different demographic. This is for young kids and parents that are skeptical of buying an expensive gaming console for their kids that is said to be potentially harmful to younger kids when played in 3D. This new device removes all road blocks in those regards. I you you are happy with the standard 3DS and 3DS XL, then fine those are still there. The only thing im worried about if Nintendo can get the message accross that this this is basically the same device for a lot cheaper and minus the stereoscopic 3D. It will be sad if parents and young kids get confused and think its a completely different device and wont play 3DS games

theblackdragonAdmin

#397

theblackdragon said:

I'd actually be interested in this if the screens were larger than the original 3DS. guess i'll be waiting for a 2DS XL, lol :3

Kirk

#398

Kirk said:

@DanteSolablood

I tell you, if that's really the logic behind making it fatter at the top than bottom then the designers at Nintendo need to stop smoking weed.

It just looks stupid and the VAST majority of people will be holding this thing with two hands, not touching any surface, so there's absolutely no need to slightly ruin the aesthetic design with silly stuff like this.

AVahne

#399

AVahne said:

After much thinking on this, this is actually a brilliant move by Nintendo. I hope they make great sales numbers with this. My first reaction was WTF?! NINTENDO?!?!
But after actually thinking and using my brain, it's a good move. A MUCH better move than the Wii Mini.

Now...if only Sony will drop the prices of their damned Vita memory cards further...

HeatBombastic

#401

HeatBombastic said:

At least it doesn't have the self-scratching clamshell design.

Anyways, I guess they're trying their best to reach more people with a cheaper 3DS?

One thing though, Nintendo sacrificed a little of the 3DS's horsepower for 3D mode, is that extra horsepower accessible on the 2DS?

ScorpionMG

#404

ScorpionMG said:

people, if you already have a 3ds or 3ds XL then why are you complaining? This is a handheld for those that cant afford a 3ds/XL

Kirk

#405

Kirk said:

@Koto

I'm not sure that reasoning is a good enough excuse for making a product that's aesthetically clumsy.

I REALLY don't think making it the same thickness all over would have made it any less comfortable to hold or use the shoulder buttons.

If it were up to me I'd have went for a uniform thickness, making it more universally aesthetically appealing, over what they've got here.

The current design actually puts me off whereas making it one thickness would not put me off, it wouldn't put anyone else off either, and I wouldn't be concerned there was going to be any issues with using the shoulder buttons either way.

DanteSolablood

#406

DanteSolablood said:

@Koto I'd say it's a little bit of both actually - again, if we consider that this is actually being targeted at children 7 and under, it's probably is going to spend good amount of time tableside. But true, i hadn't taken the shoulder buttons into consideration!

@Kirk The market this is aimed at probably doesn't care as much as you do about aesthetics. At 7/8 I chose my Transformers based on which one was the biggest rather than aesthetic value. Good GRACIOUS Rodimus Prime was ugly!!

WiiLovePeace

#408

WiiLovePeace said:

WOAH! Hey everyone, I just used a 2DS that I found in my room!!!
... By flattening out my 3DS & turning the 3D off ;)

AVahne

#409

AVahne said:

@Kirk
That's just a your own opinion on aesthetics though. Personally I find the difference in thickness nice.

baconcow

#411

baconcow said:

So, instead of redesigning the 3DS and having it include a 2nd analog stick, a design that would surely interest myself in upgrading and push some others that are on the fence, they put their R&D money into a model that saves, what, $40? I see 3DS in-store for $140 WITH a $40 game, quite frequently. I'd rather pay $10 more from a superior piece of hardware.

tchaten

#412

tchaten said:

Love this! Perfect for the kid market or those that don't want to spend $200 on the 3DS XL.

Looks more comfy than the standard 3DS. I may get one for the console collection and display it next to my Wii Mini ... but I do see this being successful and a popular holiday gift along with Pokemon X/Y.

A PERFECT 7 and under handheld console - if you are hating this thing without using it - know it is probably not for you as you are probably older than 7 ...

AVahne

#413

AVahne said:

@DanteSolablood
That makes sense as well.
Ah well, I actually wished this came out earlier. I would've told my uncle to buy this for his daughter's bday instead of a Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 (around $200). The processors in that thing are absolutely ancient and puts out graphics weaker to what 3DS puts out anyway. Though she probably might like just playing small apps on it anyway.....3DS HAS POKEMON.

tchaten

#414

tchaten said:

@baconcow I'd argue that the 2D is better designed hardware than the 3DS - the XL is great but the original 3DS was not the best ...

DanteSolablood

#416

DanteSolablood said:

@baconcow The problem with your argument is that they ALREADY made a 3DS as an upgrade, who they've actually made this handheld for are the brand new casual gamers and very young children who don't want to pay that $40 for a 3D effect they're not allowed to use.

So to simplify...
You: I don't want this.
Nintendo: Good, it wasn't made for you.

baconcow

#417

baconcow said:

@tchaten, I still use my original 3DS from the beginning and it is an excellent piece of hardware. The 3DS XL also sells frequently, at least here in Canada, for $170. I would never throw away the 3D aspect of this great console and it's ability to close.

Hipofrenia

#418

Hipofrenia said:

The desing is not great but most people I know (me included) don't use much the 3D feature. Also, is affordable so I think Nintendo will sell a couple hundred thousand easily in the first weeks. I won't buy it tho.

Emaan

#419

Emaan said:

Releasing a cheaper 3DS system aimed towards younger children without the 3D seems like an okay idea, but the name 2DS is just Nintendo going backwards on everything they've done to try and sort out the name branding confusion between DS and 3DS. Ridiculous move.

baconcow

#420

baconcow said:

@DanteSolablood, I appreciate Nintendo's effort to put the console into more children's hands. What I would have rather was a better console in MY hands. And the 3DS XL is hardly an "upgrade". It is just a larger system with a larger stretched screen. To each his own, to consider this an upgrade.

Kirk

#421

Kirk said:

@DanteSolablood

True but I might have actually bought my first 3DS, sorry 2DS, if they hadn't made it fatter at the bottom than top (and even though it's primarily aimed at under 7 years old kids I'm sure they don't want to prevent potential sales to other people because of silly little design issues that the kids wouldn't have cared about either way).

They did however and they've lost a potential sale because of it.

Removing the mostly gimmicky 3D and selling it at the cheaper price have actually worked for me without that annoying design issue...

tchaten

#422

tchaten said:

@baconcow many consider the 3DS uncomfortable to hold with its sharp edges, myself included in that.

Regarding 3D - it is for kids 7 and under ... children of that age are still developing their eyes and having 3D turned on is medically unsafe and warned against on the 3DS - this is a console designed for children and those with a budget.

DanteSolablood

#423

DanteSolablood said:

@baconcow It's not an upgrade, it's a sidegrade... they're selling to people who either don't or can't have a 3DS at the moment. When you've started to saturate the market, you need to start finding new markets. I can understand your point of view though!

Kevvy9

#424

Kevvy9 said:

I'm calling this the Gameboy Micro of the DS Line. It tries to be cost saving and stuff, but probably is gonna fail.

SanderEvers

#425

SanderEvers said:

@DanteSolablood True, but I'm someone who can't handle 3D images either, and I know (headache) when I'm looking at a 3D screen. 3DS with the slider on "Off" really is 2D (at least as far as I'm concerned). But it's easy to push the slider even a little up and you would have a 3D image. I don't know what happened in your case, but that's how I see it.

You can also really disable any way of turning on 3D by means of parental controls on the 3DS.

heathenmagic

#426

heathenmagic said:

Not for me, but can see they are after a certain target market. But price-wise, its not much different to a regular 3DS considering it has the same size screens. I love the 3D effect and my 3DS XL, am happy enough with that.

TheSikThSenSE

#427

TheSikThSenSE said:

Wow, the way some people are going on, it's like Nintendo themselves coming round to your house and replacing your 3DS/3DS XL with a 2DS. Calm down!
A child-friendly (no 3D-Headaches, no hinges to break, simple design), cheaper alternative, which plays all the same games. Also a "tablet-like" design, that people like nowadays. Releasing on the same day as the most awaited Pokemon games since Gold and Silver. It's a master plan. Judging from Game UK's pricing. A 2DS plus a copy of Pokemon X/Y comes in at about £150ish. Compare that to a £300 iPad that doesn't play Nintendo games, and it's a bargain.
A lot of people just seem to be missing the point, if you are happy with your current 3DS, then cool. The 2DS isn't for you. The people moaning about portability are forgetting that it looks like the size of a iPad Mini. Which is fine to put in your bag/rucksack/etc. Which MOST kids have, a backpack.

I can actually see these selling quite well.

Wildeheart

#428

Wildeheart said:

This would be nice with a capture card. It would make streaming games more comfortable due to it's size and configuration. I can see this selling to live streamers once a capture card mod becomes available.

DanteSolablood

#430

DanteSolablood said:

@SanderEvers Ah, but everyone is different, when you say you can't "handle" 3D images, do you mean medically treated epilepsy (which Stepan has) or just occasional migraines? Plus there is also much to be said for not actually PAYING for the 3D... just to have it turned off via parental controls.

As Stepan doesn't alreadyhave a 3DS this is perfect for him.. those who already have a 3DS are safe to have their 3D slider up or down as much as they like. :P

baconcow

#431

baconcow said:

@DanteSolablood I agree with you. I am just annoyed Nintendo has not upgraded for the (I think) masses. I enjoyed all of the DS upgrades that happened. The DS Lite brought a bright screen and a compact size. The DSi, while not as much of an upgrade, brought a better internet interface, webstore, built-in browser that worked ok at the time, and SD card slot. I was all excited when I heard there was a new 3DS, only to get disappointed.

ParSnake

#432

ParSnake said:

My, lots of complaining in the comments... While I don't like the overall look, I certainly see where Nintendo is going with this.

Also, though the design looks ugly at first, there are some cool design choices: the home button and the triggers look really high-quality and sleek.

Owlynator

#433

Owlynator said:

Why this will sell: 1) It has the name Nintendo on it and 2) It's quite cheap.
That combination is what is going to make this thing sell.

FJOJR

#436

FJOJR said:

I feel like this is an April Fool's joke. Must be some good market analysts that decided this niche of folks existed in a significant enough amount to develop this. But it will surely do better than the Micro.

DanteSolablood

#437

DanteSolablood said:

@ParSnake Negative comments are the easiest to make & agree with, hence a lot of people have made very scathing comments about the 2DS and then a little while later posted "now I've thought about it... it makes sense," posts. Seems not many people think 'before' they comment.

@Brightshadows31 No, not by a loooooong way. :D Has anyone mentioned that you pay for the 3D screen that you would be locking and that the original 3DS has a hinge that the target market of the 2DS (younger kids) could easilly break? :P

Skeet102

#438

Skeet102 said:

the price is the only thing that will make people buy this thing. its ugly, it cant fit in your pocket, and why the hell is it a freaking pad. its like they tried to fuse the wii u game pad with the 3ds. I just hope this thing isn't the x and y bundle for America.

Barbiegurl777

#440

Barbiegurl777 said:

This just look's bad in general maybe good for a little kid but just blehh on the design of the console. I already have the 3ds & the 3ds xl I'm good for now on handhelds lol.

Looks like a playschool learning toy/leapfrog toy to put in the nicest wording possible. XD

Happy Gaming! (^_^)

DanteSolablood

#442

DanteSolablood said:

@Barbiegurl777 "Looks like a playschool learning toy/leapfrog toy to put in the nicest wording possible. XD"

Umm, aren't those things designed to appeal to little kids, the target market that the 2DS is made to appeal to? :D

Owlynator

#443

Owlynator said:

@Hunter-D And that, of course, but what I meant is that that combination -alone- is going to make the 2DS sell well. I mean, people know about the 3DS's great library of games, now they can play them for far less than just buying an XL or whatnot. I'd probably buy a 2DS if I didn't own a 3DS already, just cause of the price :P

I may be in a minority, but I think this actually looks good. Eh, in any case, this was actually a very smart move by big N.

Chris720

#446

Chris720 said:

I understand where Nintendo are coming from making this system. I just don't understand why... it's ugly, it's not pocket friendly and it's huge.

The whole point of the 3DS was to play in 3D and even 2D if necessary. If parents don't understand that the 3DS can also be played in 2D, then they shouldn't come anywhere near the internet in the first place.

What market could this possibly have that the 3DS isn't already in? The 3DS can play 3D and 2D, this can play just 2D, no matter what way you look at it, you're getting half a system here.

Xtremetdifan

#448

Xtremetdifan said:

In 2011: Nintendo 3ds
In 2012: Nintendo 3dsXL
In 2013: Nintendo 2ds.
Daluv?
A new console every year and then a curveball just went you think you knew nintendo.I will be honest, I saw this on a different site and thought it was a joke, came here and got my mindblown.
Im not saying I'm going to buy a 2ds but saying "Nintendo is doomed"... really? Is a new handheld variation going to cause Nintendo to go bankrupt? I feel the device is weak in the sense that you could turn 3d off in parential settings but there is a target audience that will buy this. So instead saying Nintendo's lost there mind, let's all go back to enjoying there great games and waiting for Pokemon x.... And y.

DanteSolablood

#449

DanteSolablood said:

@Chris720 As it's already been mentioned many times I'll try and keep this summarized as much as possible. The market this seems to be aimed at are the younger, under 8's. Younger children tend to break the hinges on their DS', so to make the 2DS more hardwearing they've removed it. It make little bones to the youngsters as their pockets are too small for 3DS' anyway.

In regard to the 3D, as younger children are not meant to use the 3D anyway, why include a costly extra that they don't need? Also stops naughty children just turning it on anyway.

This new version of the #DS is made to appeal to parents buying their little kids their first handheld. It's cheap, rugged and won't burn out their eyeballs. All of which are big bonus' for the parents.

I can understand though why people who already own a 3DS don't like it... but then it's not for us. It's for people who don't have a 3DS already and don't want to pay extra for the screen.

Neram

#454

Neram said:

Oh my lord that thing is hideous! What the hell is Nintendo thinking!? Nintendo 2DS? Way to make it sound inferior, and cause even more confusion.

I'm honestly really surprised this is happening. What a joke.

Hunter-D

#455

Hunter-D said:

I'll admit I was speechless at first but after looking at the pics, videos, PR, etc. I can see the thought behind it and I know it will sell well.

I probably won't get one though, I'm really happy with my 3DS XL.

Pichuka97

#456

Pichuka97 said:

This makes sense on an economical standpoint. Lots of people are still happy with there DS's so this might be a good upgrade for the casual player. I don't see any reason for myself to get one but I might because of it's cheap price and just that the fact is it would be cool to have in my collection.

Chris720

#457

Chris720 said:

@DanteSolablood But there's Parental Controls to block 3D usage to stop naughty fingers turning it on.

I understand the value part of it, but surely they could have made it a bit more aesthetically appealing. It looks like a leap frog kind of thing, it's horrible.

It will also confuse parents even more, considering a lot of them are dumb as poo these days. And I can see developers will probably start shovelling out 2D only games now.

DanteSolablood

#459

DanteSolablood said:

@Chris720 Again, if you're buying your little son or daughter their first handheld.. do you plump for the one that has the potential to burn their eyes out, breaks in half and costs $40 more for a feature they can never use... or the 2DS?

And in regards to the aesthetics I say simply this... you state it looks like a Leapfrog kind of thing. Aren't Leapfrogs made to appeal to young children? If you're old enough to spell "aesthetics", you're not the target market. :P

I obviously understand your point, but considering most children understand how to change the parental setting on a computer better than their parents, I think this is a very tasty prospect. Plus any games made it 2D will probably be the childish "Pepper Pig" poop most of us more mature gamers aoid like the plague anyway. Real developers won't dump 90% of their market.

Blue-Thunder

#460

Blue-Thunder said:

Game will be selling it for £109.99? I got my original 3DS on amazon for £120. This product is overpriced and just for the record £109.99 is equal to $170 it's laughable.
This product is designed to go down in price.

soundcircus

#461

soundcircus said:

This is a bad joke right?
What the hell has happened to Nintendo these days? Is the company being controlled by muppets? That is one ugly, stupid, pointless piece of hardware.
What a complete waste of money and the earths resources on Nintendo's behalf!
Slow hand clap Nintendo, well done you've done it again :(

DanteSolablood

#462

DanteSolablood said:

@Falco Amazon will almost certainly be selling this cheaper than Game as well, just how things happen. Unfortunately the UK government puts a 20% tax called VAT onto electronic goods that they don't pay in the US... and then the shops round numbers up a little. :(

TheLilK98

#463

TheLilK98 said:

I mean this as an honest Nintendo fan and gamer when I say: I hope this thing crashes and burns, and is sent back to the hell from whence it came, leaving no footprint on the visage of history.

Chris720

#464

Chris720 said:

@DanteSolablood But you see, you can buy a refurbished 3DS from Nintendo themselves for cheaper than this, plus their one year warranty and it includes 3D. So the "value" part of it is turning more and more into bull.

Not to mention, the original 3DS is far more aesthetically pleasing, you can put it into any pocket, you can turn off the 3D through parental controls (and what 6 year old knows how to access parental controls? Not to mention guess a 4 digit code?) and I've dropped my original 3DS on to concrete and the most damage it had was a slight scratch that was barely noticeable.

I fail to see what market this could possibly have. I understand children are butter fingers and clumsy as heck, so what's the point in having those screens unprotected like that? I can see that getting scratched and damaged far quicker than on the 3DS/XL.

grimbldoo

#465

grimbldoo said:

@tchaten #426
I honestly do not understand how people hurt their hands while playing on the 3DS are you just gripping it too tight?

tchaten

#466

tchaten said:

@grimbldoo has nothing to do with tight grip, but about ergonomics, it simply isn't designed for my hand - maybe you have small hands in comparison ...

I-U

#468

I-U said:

I actually think this feels more like a new system coming off the DS than the 3DS does. The 2DS has a completely new design overall, and to me, it looks very fresh while also being a bit familiar. I also love the shoulder buttons. I've been waiting for Nintendo to improve their handhelds in that regard, and the 2DS looks to be the best yet since the original DS.

DanteSolablood

#469

DanteSolablood said:

@tchaten & @grimbldoo To be honest, the original 3DS gives me hand cramp too. It's just the size & shape of my hands compared to the 3DS itself. Some people get it, some don't. :P

@Chris720 Mhmm, well you can buy them a secondhand console for their birthday but it won't go down too well. I will also add that my nieces and nephews 3DS Lites have all died through hinge death. Dropping is one thing... repeatedly banging and stretching open is another. Heck, I accidently killed the screen on my DSi and I'm 32!

Also the screens aren't unprotected, they're inset into the handheld with the buttons protruding out even more making it tough to damage them in ways that the oriiginal wouldn't find a problem either.

TBH, most of the arguments for the handheld are reasonable for the target market. That isn't you... so I can understand why you're so against it. Nintendo made something & it's not for you... unfortunately I'm old enough to have gone through that a few times already.

grimbldoo

#470

grimbldoo said:

@tchaten
That makes sense. Another question if you would be so kind as to answer, how do you hold your 3DS? I hold it mostly in my fingers, it rests on my middle finger and only touches my palm, for lack of a better term, at the ball of my index finger. My index fingers rest on the bumper triggers and my thumbs sit on the face buttons. Maybe my hand is just smaller, but I don't think that's case.

aris77

#471

aris77 said:

i think nintendo is testing the waters to see whether the post-3ds console should retain or drop the 3d feature....
i definitely want to see the 3d feature again in future handhelds...

tchaten

#472

tchaten said:

@grimbldoo - it depends on what chair, sofa or bed I'm sitting on or laying on. I hold it so its comfy. Sometimes I have it in laptop mode, but most of the time it is in the middle screen opening setting. Would have to take a pic to explain how I hold it.

tchaten

#473

tchaten said:

@aris77 I also love the 3D feature - it gives me a home console experience with that level of immersion. A 2D system would not interest me as much as a 3D one.

Tony_342

#475

Tony_342 said:

This seemed ridiculous to me at first, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. It's essentially a 3DS for kids under 7 that aren't supposed to use the 3D. And they won't be able to break the hinges or anything (obviously because it doesn't have hinges). It looks very sturdy.

Yeah, this isn't such a bad idea, really. A 3DS for kids. I just wonder if that's how they'll actually market it.

aaronsullivan

#478

aaronsullivan said:

This is a fantastic product at just the right time. It actually looks more comfortable to hold than the others. I still lean towards the 3DS XL because of the screen size, but I'm a big old man. Looks appealing and the bag is a nice touch, too.

Perfect way to shave off some dollars in the pitch to the parents when begging for Pokemon X & Y.

Wait, what's with all the weird negativity above? You'd think Nintendo discontinued the other versions or something. It's probably not for you!

micronean

#479

micronean said:

Funny. I remember people used to complain when Nintendo's handhelds DID fold (i.e. the original NDS). Now they complain when it doesn't. To me this seems like a neat, solid, 3DS to keep around at home (without the 3d). Hopefully it can also double as a Wii U gamepad someday.

JimLad

#480

JimLad said:

I want to say this was a waste of resources, but everything with DS in the name seems to sell so...
How about a Wii U revision while you're at it? For those who want a regular controller and a lower price?

HandheldGuru97

#481

HandheldGuru97 said:

Saw this during lunch at school nearly feel out of my chair, but after spending the rest of the day thinking about it I think it makes sense. Hell the Japanese sales for this thing are probably gonna be crazy just like the other two. I won't get one now (as I got an XL like 6 months ago), but if there is a cool limited edition I'll nab one

3DSAllDay

#482

3DSAllDay said:

This seems like a great system for a smaller price as long as you don't like 3D......or putting it in your pocket.....yea this system is meant more for children who have no pockets.

ToneDeath

#483

ToneDeath said:

My initial reaction to this was much the same as everybody else here: "It's not even the first of September yet, never mind April!"

I get it now though. I wonder if they could have made the design even more kid friendly, but then I guess this should also be an option for those that don't want to spend the extra money on a 3D effect they either don't want or can't see.

Bundle this with the new Pokemon games and advertise it in the right places, and I could see the 2DS doing VERY well this Christmas.

NintenHero

#484

NintenHero said:

God dammit Nintendo! why must they be so weird. I understand the pricing yo but reeeaaalllyyyy? lol.

I-U

#485

I-U said:

Who started defining a portable system as one that must go into one's pocket? It's still a portable system whether or not it can go into pockets.

Kit

#486

Kit said:

Erm... what on earth were Ninty thinking?!!

This is just plain daft!!!

Wiidsguy

#487

Wiidsguy said:

this looks ridiculous, but for some reason I kinda want one, and I don't know why.

Player4

#488

Player4 said:

Considering the fact that the 2DS is aimed towards children 7 and under and the fact that it will be released along with Pokémon XY, I can only come to one conclusion. Nintendo is trying to introduce the new generation to Pokémon. (Ain't I genius?) If it's true, I hope they'll succeed! Also, I actually like the design, don't know why.

jbrewer99

#489

jbrewer99 said:

At first I didn't know what to think. Actually now, its an ingenious idea. Its cheaper, removes the 3d, and removes the hinge which can be a breaking/weak point down the road. My only gripe is that from looking on nintendo's site, it appears to be the same screen size as the original 3ds. If it were 3DS XL size, then it would indeed be a good bargain. If it had the larger screens and I didnt already have a 3ds xl, I'd get one.

sjmartin

#490

sjmartin said:

All the people who are claiming Nintendo has made a mistake or that it's an ugly system need to realize Nintendo didn't make this system for them. They made it for the 4-8 year olds who want to play Pokémon and Mario, but their parents are worried about getting them a system they could break or a system with 3D that they shouldn't be looking at anyway. This is a genius idea, and I already know three parents who are planning to get this for their kids. Nintendo will see dollar signs from this.
Internet trolls need to take a break, pause for a minute, and let logic prevail before posting whatever useless idea pops in their head.
And while people are at it, the editors here at NintendoLife may want to go back and edit their articles so their things about the 2DS don't make them look as uninformed as they do right now.

Nictendo64

#491

Nictendo64 said:

Maybe they'll make a 2D XL! Then I might purchase it. I don't really walk around with my 3DS now. It stays in my house anywho.

jsubbuteo

#492

jsubbuteo said:

I don't care if it is aimed at children. I like the shoulder button location better. I prefer not playing in 3D. All in all I might pick one up and have a go with this.

mamp

#493

mamp said:

So the question I have is how do u put a game on sleep mode since you cant close this system i mean you can push the power button but it turns the game off too, so how would it work? Also Fisher Price called, they want their toy back LOL (seriously this is the most childish design on a Nintendo handheld system yet).

InsertPi

#494

InsertPi said:

This is honestly just stupid. I can understand it if it STILL HAD THE FLIPPIN FOLDY SCREEN!!! Only then will I think that this will sell well. Also, what about a 2DS XL. Friggen way to big. I feel that Nintendo needs to redeem themselves with something good after the Wii U flop, not another piece of crap. Nintendo, you're better than this!

theblackdragonAdmin

#496

theblackdragon said:

@mamp: If you look at the image of the white and red 2DS, you can clearly see a 'sleep' slider down on the bottom right corner. Also, a 'childish design' for a handheld clearly meant for smaller children is nothing too surprising, is it? :3

daveh30

#497

daveh30 said:

This is genius. It may not be the prettiest thing in the world (although I actually kinda like the design), but it fits the bill perfectly. I'll be getting this for my 4 year old so he can play Mario and Lego City with out messing up the hinges on my XL. The lack of hinges, and the low price point (undoubtly due in large part to the lack of 3D), make this perfect for smaller children. If you're really that offended by it, good news: You aren't the target audience!

SuperKMx

#498

SuperKMx said:

And thus, Nintendo began to throw poor decisions at the one place where they were doing well: The handheld market.

Just such an awful design. Whoever dreamt this up is insane, and all of the people that approved it so far without saying "What? WHY?" need to be let go.

Darkness3131

#499

Darkness3131 said:

I cant wait to travel to the future, and see what people say about this then..... Now wouldn't that be interesting?

daveh30

#500

daveh30 said:

It really shocks me how many people completely do not understand the point of this console.

feelthesarcasm

#501

feelthesarcasm said:

The nintendo 2ds is designed for two groups.

1. People who have yet to get a 3ds (those people still exist) and who don't think it's worth paying 169 for and don't care about 3d.
2. People who are worried about children breaking the hinges of the 3ds and never having the 3d effect on. Yes there's a parental setting but if a child DOESN'T have a 3ds, WHY WOULD I BUY THAT when I can just get a 2ds and not have to worry about any settings. Honestly, if this would have come out a year ago, I would have gotten my 8 year old nephew it as he doesn't play with the 3d on and sometimes wiggles the hinged screen too much for my liking.

But it's not to replace the 3ds, it's not for people who already have a 3ds. THERE'S A REASON IT'S COMING OUT THE SAME DATE AS POKEMON. And stop talking about it not fitting in your pocket. I've never even carried my 3ds in my pocket and don't know anyone who does.

Justin83593

#508

Justin83593 said:

I'm disappointed. I wish nintendo would try to add on to the 3ds instead of taking away the good features. This can't possibly sell.

tanookisuit

#509

tanookisuit said:

Geez what is with all the selfish and childish backlash over this? Nintendo isn't doing it's old garbage of a true system upgrade every year like GBA and DS got where you'd get hosed out of a worthwhile feature. This is just a budget model that's built for children and people with eye problems who can't handle the 3D, it's really that simple and it costs less so it's a big win for cheapskates too.

Pachterkid

#510

Pachterkid said:

Good job Nintendo. Marketing a system to 5-7 year olds. Even better, you made the system clunky and awkward for them to hold in their little hands.

daveh30

#511

daveh30 said:

@Justin83593
This will sell HUGE. at $129, every child on the planet is getting one for christmas... if not 2. This isn't for you... its for little kids who break the hinges on their parents 3DS. my kids are both getting one, and I can stop worrying about my hinges.

baba_944

#512

baba_944 said:

This is just stupid. I mean the 3DS can be turn off via slider and parental lock. So what the heck kinda console is this? for 7<= they can play with the 3D on/off via said slider and parental lock. Price I can see, but no clam shell design, no surround sound speakers, and controls on top screen really makes this a weird piece of hardware to be sold. Also I think the reason why NINTENDO is supporting the 3DS is because the more money it rakes in the more advertising money they have for the Wii U. Even though NINTENDO'S is super rich already.

PikminWorld

#513

PikminWorld said:

While I don't agree with the design too much, it would be good financially for those who want 3DS games but don't like/want to pay extra money for the 3D aspect.

soma

#514

soma said:

I just told a friend about this, he made a weird face but when I told him the cost, $130, he was immediately hyped for it! Man, I'm starting to think this will easily outsell the 3DS in Christmas. ALL parents will buy this easily over the 3DS!

WildMan

#515

WildMan said:

OK Nintendo, what's up with this? At first I thought people were joking when they were talking about a "2ds", but I came here and found out it is true. Weird thing to wake up to..

feelthesarcasm

#516

feelthesarcasm said:

@archgamer

EXACTLY, I don't see why they are acting as if they're just going to stop making 3ds' all of a sudden. In fact to me it seems like Nintendo sticking more to their "family gaming" incentive. Pick your child up a 2ds, while you get a 3ds. They even have people playing on the 3ds, with their kid playing the 2ds in the commercial.

daveh30

#517

daveh30 said:

I do wonder how this will handle Mario 3D land.... there are a few puzzle portions that require the 3d be turned on...

Zidentia

#518

Zidentia said:

First thing that came to my mind was "Gameboy". I think they may have hit the mother lode here.

SMW

#520

SMW said:

That has got to win some award for uglyness.

On the flip side, its probably a good move by Nintendo with that whole "3D is bad for young kids" controversy.

The lack of a hinge makes it sturdier for little kids, but what about the touch screen? Does that have any kind of armor? I'm sure kids could mess up a touch screen quicker than they could ruin a hinge. I'm sure you've seen the shape of the display units in stores :P

hcfwesker

#522

hcfwesker said:

I used the 3D effects for like the first 2 days of owning my 3DS at launch. upgraded to a 3DS XL, and seen this and I was ecstatic with joy. Until I noticed two things, it doesn't flip open, and doesn't come in black. I dont wanna spend another $200 for a black 3ds xl and transfer my data again, I was hoping this would have been a cheaper alternative since i could careless for the 3D effect. but alas, as we all know they will release new versions of this after the complaints roll in.

WaveBoy

#523

WaveBoy said:

I just had a 5 hour puke session after watching that video.
Thanks for another awful commercial Nintendo! ;) As for the 2DS, reallly? it's taking away what makes the 3DS so special.
It's just another DS now with prettier graphics and a weaker library. It's now officially a 'Gamecube on the go'

Big_Boy_Chubs

#524

Big_Boy_Chubs said:

OH....MY....GOD....I NEED THIS! the only thing is, it looks like the excact opposite of a portable system...it doesn't bend so it can't be fit in a pocket, purse, etc. I'd buy it though....can't WAIT!

cfgk24

#526

cfgk24 said:

@EuphoriaX The 2 cameras make it completely compatible for your SD card pictures to work - WHEN YOU UPGRADE FROM A 2DS to a 3DS! Brilliant move!

Doge

#528

Doge said:

As you can see by this chart, We believe if we UPGRADE from a game console were you can turn the 3D off, to a console were your FORCED to play on a @#$% looking console in 2D, We'll make profits.

JuanitoShet

#529

JuanitoShet said:

I like how about 90% of the people in this comments section (including all the comments sections on all other gaming websites, as well) complain, and whine and cry about how this new 2DS is an atrocity of a console that shouldn't exist...

Because those people are apparently unable to understand that this console is NOT for them. AND that no one's forcing them to buy it. AND that the original 3DS & 3DS XL are still out there, available for purchase.

The 2DS is aimed at KIDS, people! KIDS! Most of us on this website are NOT kids! Get your acts together! There's a reason that Nintendo made this new version of the 3DS, and that's because it knows a part of their audience, and it knows that this said part doesn't use the 3D effect, and that they'd like a cheaper console.

Nintendo is doing what's RIGHT for business. It's why they've been around so long. All you need to do is UNDERSTAND that this console is for the younger audience, and NOT for YOU.
Please watch the insults, they are not necessary to make your argument — TBD

JuanitoShet

#531

JuanitoShet said:

My argument aside...

I DO agree that it looks weird as hell. I've definitely never seen anything that resembles the 2DS's design. I like it, and I also don't. One thing's for sure, though: I'd like to play on this a few times, just to know how it feels ergonomically. :B

Also... wow. I still can't understand how people don't understand that this 2DS is just another option. And that it was designed for kids, and to get 3DS sales in North America & Europe to increase. Wake up, people, come on. Why are you all so quick to anger over such smart business decisions? :B

XyVoX

#532

XyVoX said:

This is going to be CRAP believe me think about it ive never seen or heard of anyone use a dual screen handheld with the top screen completely Flat, if you've tried you'll know how uncomfortable it is to use it needs some sort of angle on the Top screen.

feelthesarcasm

#533

feelthesarcasm said:

@Xyvox. Unless....you hold the 2ds like a tablet....... Hence why the buttons are higher? I can see this becoming a little weird only when you need to use the bottom touch screen. But when younger children play (under about 8yrs old), they normally lay the 3ds down to use the touchscreen because a lot of them don't know how to hold the stylus and the system at the same time.

JuanitoShet

#534

JuanitoShet said:

@WaveBoy Well, #1, if you puked for 5 hours, you'd most likely die. ;)

#2 The commercial is informative: it states absolutely EVERYTHING you need to know about the system. It serves it's purpose well, so HOW is it a bad commercial? Simple: it's not.

#3 If you had actually PAYED attention to the video, you'd know that it states that the 2DS is COMPLETELY compatible with all 3DS, eShop, DSi & Nintendo DS games. So how is it's library smaller, exactly? Simple answer: IT'S NOT.

Understand that this console is NOT aimed at you.
Watch the insults please — TBD

JaxonH

#535

JaxonH said:

@Yasume
The point is, it's only $130. That's all you need to know about the 2DS. It's a poor-man's 3DS, and there's NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Poorer people should be able to play awesome Nintendo games too. Also, no one puts handhelds in their pockets anymore. They're too bulky as is, even if you could cram it in. And it's not about playing the games in 2D, it's about being able to afford a handheld that plays the amazing 3DS library. It's about poorer people, and it's about young kids who easily break hardware. It's genius. They cut some corners and got a DURABLE, CHEAP, $129 handheld out to market.

Trust me, this is a good move. And strangely enough, I like it. I'll buy one just to put on the shelf. Already have a 3DS and 3DS XL, so this will complete the package.

JuanitoShet

#536

JuanitoShet said:

@Archgamer YES, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, FREAKIN' THANK YOU! FINALLY someone who understands the business logic behind this new 3DS model!

I don't like resorting to insults when it comes to replying to people in comments, but it's just absolutely atrocious that people can't see the ingenious strategy that Nintendo has come up with.

Once again, I'm glad to see there's someone else who understands that Nintendo knows what's good for business. :B

feelthesarcasm

#537

feelthesarcasm said:

@JuanitoShet I think it's just those people who believe that children aren't a profitable market in gaming. That a huge majority of the original DS market was children who finally had a handheld with appropriate games for them.

Red_XIII

#538

Red_XIII said:

If this is sturdy, I will buy. The DS family wasnt the most sturdy, yet my 12-year-old GBA is still working, as is my beloved Game Boy Micro.

JuanitoShet

#540

JuanitoShet said:

@feelthesarcasm Yeah, and those people are mistaken for thinking so. The Nintendo DS didn't become the best-selling handheld console because it DIDN'T appeal to children; people need to understand that, in actuality, children make up a huge portion of the gaming market. :)

SCAR392

#541

SCAR392 said:

Does everyone understand the difference between an HDTV and a 3D HDTV? That's basically all you need to know to understand what this is. It's identical in use completely, besides the top screen being different on each model.

Wolf_Link

#546

Wolf_Link said:

Dont you think that, with all the info released today, a nintendo direct would have been fitting?

JayceJa

#547

JayceJa said:

im all for a cheaper 3ds without 3d, because the 3d is an annoying gimmick i dont use at all, but DAT DESIGN...
it may play better than it looks, in fact, it would probably have to... but damn its ugly

XCWarrior

#550

XCWarrior said:

Great for young children - who it is marketed to - great move Nintendo! This is going to sell like hot cakes during the holiday.

Zodiak13

#551

Zodiak13 said:

Holy long thread Batman. Kinda weird, but I see why they are doing this, still unsure how well it will sell. I will buy one for its uniqueness alone. Curious about the up high controls though.I have never played a game in 3D at all (medical concerns) so that doesn't bother me.

WaveBoy

#553

WaveBoy said:

@JuanitoShet

Resorting to insults makes you look like a child my friend. Was that really necessary? Geez, talk about lousy first impressions, not the most likable bugger around here are ya?

And i find it hilarious that you managed to dissect and spew all of that out(Incoming sea of text ahead) over a bare bones and mindless comment that wasn't even really ment to be taken serious to begin with. And yes the 2DS commercial is absolutely horrid, sure it gets the point across and is informative but i should of been more clear in my previous post...It's the presentation that's just off putting, unless you're a straight edge soccer mom who enjoys sitting around with your gal pals reminiscing about the good days talking about 15 shades of grey. ;)

The Big N's commercials were vastly superior and far more daring, imaginative, flashy and eye catching during the 80's and early 90's, this is a fact. ;) Anyways, the 3DS/2DS may be compatible with DS games but you have to deal with either a blown up/upscaled picture or a noticeably smaller screen in 1:1 mode. Hardly ideal imo, but I realize that i'm pretty picky and most people in general would have absolutely no problem putting up with the inferior PQ. Especially kids.

And here i thought the 3DS XL was more practical, functional and to the point, the 2DS just topped it. Although I'm somewhat baffled by the 4 face button placement...Might feel a little akward when using the D-Pad.

Electricmastro

#554

Electricmastro said:

I wouldn't have facepalmed as much as I did had the trailer present that it was specifically intended for little kids, it came off to me as a step back. Also, there's no clamshell design since little kids could break off the hinges. It's really about safety, longevity, and money.

ThetaRobo

#555

ThetaRobo said:

Most of the people making negative comments already own a 3DS, and have no interest in the product in question. Sure, the name is dumb, but a budget 3DS that only cuts out ONE (in comparison to Wii Mini) feature is a good thing. The clamshell was cool and all, but it's not a deal breaker to me (still play my PSP regularly, with the old 1000 slipcase it's still very portable). I'll stick with my 3DS, but this is very appealing to buy for others who don't game outside much, or care about 3d.

blinkpunk02

#556

blinkpunk02 said:

Today I realized just how many people have nothing better to do than complain. Nintendo expects exactly zero people to chuck their 3DS and buy this. It's for kids 7 and under who aren't supposed to use 3D. But this is what the internet is for, moaning about things that won't affect you in the slightest. Holy LOL.

blinkpunk02

#557

blinkpunk02 said:

@Cotton So if the photos ever do happen to be transferred to a 3DS (like when a child is old enough to safely view the 3d effect) the pictures will be in 3d.

meltendo

#560

meltendo said:

Oh no imagine the playground with kids playing with their new 3DSXL and 2DS... "Look at Jimmy over there with the 2DS...he's too poor to have a 3DS like us."

NbaJunkie

#562

NbaJunkie said:

This is a great move by Nintendo.They will surely reach their goal of an additional 5 million Ds Sold with this variation.Plus it looks pretty cool IMO.I like the tapered look.But Id be hard pressed to give em more money for the 2d xl knowing it only uses one screen. Dont want to pay more for less plastic surrounding the screen

BulbasaurusRex

#563

BulbasaurusRex said:

Other than the bulky design, I think it's a pretty good idea except for one problem: it's only $40 cheaper than the full 3DS! A budget 3DS like this should cost something more like $109.99 or even less to make it worth it (then maybe drop the DSlite down to $89.99).

tripunktoj

#565

tripunktoj said:

First saw it on facebook and I thought my friend was trolling. I actually kind of like it, yes its weird and being a 3DS redesign that confuses the branding with no 3D and no 2nd stick is missing the point (form an adult gamer's perspective), but it'd look nice as a "desk 3DS" in my room and it appears more comfortable. I collect american Nintendo systems and games, so I'll get it anyway, my only doubt is which color to get. Its strange, a week ago I was thinking it was my XL's birthday and how it arrived just a year later than 3DS, I expected a redesign but maybe in 2014 and not in this shape. And I don't see it as another Wii Mini (even Nintendo knew it, releasing in few countries) 2DS arrives in a healthy point in 3DS lifespan with a clear target customer, Wii Mini didn't, and lacking 3D and stereo speakers in a handheld is not nearly as restrictive as lacking Wi-Fi (DL games included) SD card, controllers & accessories.

Metal_Slugger

#570

Metal_Slugger said:

I like it. It look's really comfortable to hold. The only problem is I like the 3d wish it had that and this design, and a larger screen. A better idea for some folks would be let us play 3ds games with our Wiiu gamepad. Let us download 3ds games from the e shop that will play on the gamepad. Their sales would probably go through the roof.

randomous

#571

randomous said:

How dare those Nintendo jerks try to make something nice for little kids; how DARE they! How come Nintendo didn't make a cool new 3DS for the rest of us?! WAAAHHHHH, SOB, COMPLAIN!!!! /sarcasm

Honestly, I don't understand complaining about things that aren't meant for you. That's like complaining about Nintendo releasing consoles in languages you can't read... or complaining about the colors dog toys come in. There are plenty of other things to comment on if you have an insatiable urge... like the recent price drop of the Wii U! Or the new Windwaker HD Wii U bundle. You could go complain that you just bought a Wii U right before they announced the price drop or something.

OK, now that I've gone and complained myself, I'll get back to what I was doing. Thanks for reading.

millarrp

#573

millarrp said:

I'll pass on this for th e same reason I'm passing on the 3DS XL..I like being able to carry it in my pocket....as a side note I'm afraid to see what the circle pad pro will look like for this

Henmii

#574

Henmii said:

"A tablet-style games console"

I wouldn't call it a tablet!

Anyway, strange that Nintendo ditches the 3D with this device, even stranger that they ditch the folding mechanic!! Now it's totally NOT portable anymore! But DS compatibility is back, that's something!

If this brings more people to the 3DS games, I am happy! I just hope that this isn't the end of 3D: I want more 3D games for my 3DS!

blinkpunk02

#575

blinkpunk02 said:

@millarrp I highly doubt the Circle Pad Pro would be made for this if it's aimed at a younger demographic. Two out of the three games it's used most for are MGS and Resident Evil, M rated games. Not that I'd be shocked if the CPP did come out for it. It'd definitely be ugly though lol.

andreoni79

#576

andreoni79 said:

Gba > Gba Sp (wow!) > Gba Micro (stylish!)
Ds > Ds Lite (wow!) > Dsi (yeah!)
3Ds > 3Ds XL (ok!) > 2Ds (wtf?)

kurtasbestos

#577

kurtasbestos said:

@randomous Well said. But, unfortunately, this is the Internet, where everyone's personal opinion is more important than everyone else's personal opinion.

I actually think this looks like a really good idea. People complaining about how it's not portable have apparently never seen someone take a picture with an iPad (which cracks me up every time). The miniaturization of electronic devices has been thrown into full reverse and it doesn't seem to bother the masses. Also, this system kinda looks like it would be a million times easier on the hands than a normal 3DS.

Kirk

#578

Kirk said:

  • Too big to comfortably put in your pocket, so it kinda undermines the idea of a portable.
  • The screen is unprotected which now means you are pretty much forced into buying an additional cover at extra cost.
  • Lower battery life than current 3DS XL.
  • Smaller screen than 3DS XL.
  • Removal of 3D display capability which up until now was supposedly one of 3DS' main unique selling points and gimmicks.
  • Awkward fugly asymmetric design with mono speaker off to one side, cartridge slot off center, fat top and thick bottom, bigger curves on top corners than bottom corners, and other little bits and bobs unevenly positioned all over the place.
  • We're told it's aimed at children under 7 yet on the box it say 6+, so it's target demographic is the tiny range between 6-7 year olds. WTF!

This thing isn't an actual joke but it is an actual joke.

Rei7

#579

Rei7 said:

Can't believe all this negative comments.
This device is targeted for kids and those who don't use those 3D option.
Having more options is always good. Stick with your 3DS if you want 3D and stop complaining.
It's good to see Nintendo giving more cheaper options to enjoy playing the 3DS.

I personally like the design as it reminds me of those old and stylish looking Game Boy.

madness

#580

madness said:

atall the stupid people moaning.. its more choice. so when did more choice become so hard to deal with..
You can still buy a 3ds and now buy a 2ds.
before if i wanted to play 2d i had to pay for a 3ds and turn it to 2d.
Now i have the choice to buy a cheap 2ds or a 3ds whats so hard to understand?
I for one love more choice, if you want to be a sheep and only buy what you are told too, i think the ps4 and xbox are out soon.

andreoni79

#581

andreoni79 said:

@madness do you know that the world is full of people that buy a Wii U game for their kids who have a Wii or think that the gamepad is an accessory for the Wii? Do Nintendo need more confusion? The 2ds is only 20/30 $ cheaper than the regular 3ds and doesn't look confortable at all... All we need is the perfect 3ds, halfway between regular and XL and with two analogue sticks...

Buduski

#584

Buduski said:

I think its great in all honesty, certain aspects resemble the wii u game pad, like the L/R buttons on top and the home button, so all those going on crazy rants really need to relax and think about who this is aimed for because this is just an affordable solution to the 3DS excluding the 3D effect and the hinge that kids love to break. Also I know its hasn't been alot of compitition but the VITA had a price drop anounced so Nintendo is probably using this as an even more affordable and accessible price point to those without a 3DS or hand held console.

GloryQuestor

#585

GloryQuestor said:

@Rei7 I agree with you. Too much negativity for a console that actually looks like it might do things right for a change.

Biggest and possibly best change — the placement of the controls. There are a lot of games out there (especially Virtual Console games) that work much better through the D-Pad, but even the 3DS XL tends to cause some discomfort. With the controls more towards the middle of the device, I think that might actually reduce some thumb cramping.

Anyone who has a DS or original 3DS should consider this a must-buy. It's XL-sized, the price is really perfect for a handheld, many don't like the 3D option in general (myself included), and even if it can't fit into a pocket you can put it in a backpack or attach a hinged keychain and hook it on your belt. Definitely not worth all the drama, people. :(

Chabbox

#586

Chabbox said:

I actually starting laughing hysterically at the 2DS on reddit, because i thought it was a fan-made joke. I come to Nintendolife, and.... it's real. I nearly cried.

Judah_83

#587

Judah_83 said:

This is genius. Aimed at a younger demographic than all you dude bros lol. Releases alonside Pokemon X&Y as well. Brilliant Nintendo. Should sell well with the soccer moms etc lol. Kudos.

Pro-N-Gamer

#588

Pro-N-Gamer said:

To all the people that are complaining: ITS A 3DS FOR KIDS YOUNGER THAN 7!!! If you want a good 3DS just buy the 3DS XL!

Kirk

#589

Kirk said:

For your consideration...

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2cgc1uq.jpg

Note: In the tweaked design the mic is hidden behind the second speaker hole area, which isn't actually a speaker but just there so the design is a little more balanced visually. The Sleep functionality is built into the Power button so when you press it you would get a simple option to choose to either turn it off or go into Sleep Mode or it could be based on how long you hold the button. The Start and Select buttons are moved so they're easier to reach with the Start being below the Select since you actually use the Select during gameplay sometimes. The screen sizes are the same to tidy up the design of the system and bring some balance and since it's actually just one big screen split up by a plastic separator this would still work perfectly fine. The lights around the Power Button would be moved off to the side of the system like the other light indicator. The controls are all moved up slightly so your fingers don't have stretch as far to reach the shoulder buttons, especially when your left thumb is on the d-pad. The system would have the same uniform thickness from top to bottom when viewed from the side (closer to the bottom parts thickness)...

A few mins and I think I've improved on Nintendo's design without taking away anything from it.

So I have to ask, WTF are Nintendo's designers playing at?!

kinatarai

#590

kinatarai said:

Finally people are starting to see why they made the 2Ds its for the kids, cause honestly even when I use the 3D mode on my ds for a while my eyes start to hurt and it's not over a couple of hours more like couple of minutes. In the beginning when I saw the 2DS I was like wow why are they making this. Then I read why and I'm like okay I can understand that. Alot of people couldn't play the 3DS cause of seizures, eye problems. But now they have a 2Ds and it comes out the same day as pokemon X and Y. So it all works out and honestly it was. Good call more profit for Nintendo and little kids and anyone can join in on pokemon X and Y and other 3D games.

Windy

#591

Windy said:

Not happy one bit. This will be Nintendo's excuse to stop making 3d titles. Mark my words on that. They have already started by totally abandoning 3d classics. It makes great sense for them and they will sell a gazillion of these things.

theperson

#592

theperson said:

this is really not as bad as wii mini, if it was it wouldnt have eshop, streetpass, ds compatability or a camera, i have no problem with it

yuwarite

#593

yuwarite said:

ReviewTechUsa's Rich is very positive about the 2DS. He continues to be the voice of reason.

Slayer

#596

Slayer said:

YES! I CALLED IT! I knew they would release a 2DS! I thought of it just an hour or two ago!
But that thing looks horrible... My money's still on the 3DS...

Giggamer3000

#598

Giggamer3000 said:

At first thought....i was thinking this was the worst idea nintendo had since the VB.....but seeing people comment on here saying they might want it because they hate the 3d on the 3ds (for a reason i don't know...) and its cheaper makes me think this might be a smart decision by nintendo...it looks like a tablet and its aimed at the kiddies....hey you never know...we all thought the 3ds was going to fail and now its considered to be the ultimate handheld....I guess time will tell.

nWoElite

#599

nWoElite said:

I am going to assume this is for little kids. with that being said is it going to be durable enough to handle the possible destruction of a minor?

BubblePeach

#600

BubblePeach said:

Lol.... What?!?! I think I'll just stick to playing my none awkward shaped 3DS without the 3D on. I didn't think they would downgrade. .-.

Ryankf

#601

Ryankf said:

This is stupid. I would spend that much money for something that doesn't even give me the option to play in 3d and you can't even fit it in your pocket. And i think it looks stupid and ridiculous. And if they start making 2DS Games just for that i'm gonna be pissed.

Benjelo

#604

Benjelo said:

Hmmm... I have only two conclusion for why nintendo would ever do such a
thing as this...

So basically the first one is:
they made it terrible on purpose. It needs to be really bad for their plan to work. At the end of a certain time period, lets say 6 months, they compare the sales to that of the 3ds at it's 6 month-after-release time. Now if the 2ds is selling at a close enough rate to the 3ds they will start making all their gaming consoles terrible because they are getting the same sales. however if the 2ds is failing tragically then they know to keep the quality of their gaming consoles high. In other words it's a test. Also the reason they had to make it flat was because it has a memory storage unit at the middle which is there because the camera on the front is constantly watching you recording what you do as part of the test. once the 3ds has wireless connection it sends all the information to a secret observation center owned by nintendo.

reason number 2 is quite simple:
Nintendo is running low on new ideas. The company feels they are not capable of improving their gaming experience much more so what they do is simple, send out a really terrible game console so people will be like "NO! nintendo is losing it's edge!" but secretly they've been designing a new console that is actually an improvement. this way people will be more content with the real new counsel because in contrast to the 3ds it is far better.

Of course, both of these are completely logical explanations but it's hard to say which one it is... What do you think?

motang

#606

motang said:

At first I though it was stupid, but at an low price it would be good as parents will be more likely to buy this for their kids, and dominance of Nintendo handheld is what they are after here!

Joygame51

#608

Joygame51 said:

Whats all the fussin' 'bout? don't like it ? don't buy it ...quitya'itchin'! cute for the little kiddies.... not for me though! ;)

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