I simply LOVE these guys And since i know that some guys of Shin´en are registered here:
Grüße aus der Heimat Weiter so, ihr seit einfach großartig

Scribble what ? Oh, that launch game that was delayed for a little bit in europe...

@kentray1985 You can always visit your friends in person and be "social" to them that way -.- Nintendo does this, to promote couch co-op. And frankly, nothing can beat having your friends right next to you while playing games together.

On Topic: The fact that they still planning for an Xbox -359 release after the huge backlash shows that:
a) popularity of a console cannot be a factor (as stated many times before) since no system is less popular than this thing.
b) the fact that frostibyte 3 and UE4 are scalable (like their respective predecessors) means, that it can easily be customized to run on different systems regardless of hardware power.

It still sounds like an "anti nintendo" vendetta to me.

@Funbunz That may actually be the case. At that time, i was pretty hyper and anything that took more than 5 minutes was considered "boring" Nowadays i apriciate the breaks from constant action and tension a lot better. But starting the GC version while the WiiU Version is so close would be dumb imo. So ill way a little longer and finish the job then.

Thats the kind of competition i like Maybe people waited on what the other two consoles had to offer and then just wanted a pure gaming console or...they simply sucked SO hard
Either way, awesome news. Maybe some devs woke up too and are shifting their work forces away from microsodt projects to the WiiU.
@Haywired
Puzzled competition isnt that bad Spread confusion and score a sneaky win. Strategeme 101
Ill wait for the next Nintendo Direct before i really start celebrating a victory. If the conference is as good as it sounds, it could win a LOT of poeple over in the current situation.

@Alienfish Im very very sorry, but Wind Waker is probably my least favorite in the series, which doesn mean much, since even if its the worst ZELDA game, its far above all other action adventure games And it wasnt the art style that held me off, it was the pacing. My atention span simply was too short for it. So, not entirely the games fault.
But im willing to give the HD version another shot and i WILL finish it defenitly

A tripple pack...dont tease us like that That would be phenomenal. If it would be an all new title, probably teased in the upcomming Nintendo Direct...i fear that there wont be enough WiiU for that storm

@sadsack777 Absolutely. But many devs seem to forget that. Also, the current copyright system prevents such a conservation of old games for the most part, which is really a shame.

nd there i was, thinking that microsoft youldnt dig their grave any deeper But to be honest, there is a reason why backwards compatibility will play an ever lesser role...the games of today wont be remembered in future generations. As simple as that. No one wants to play "the golden age of Call of Duty" simply because it doesnt exist
But i regularly, maybe even more than modern releases, play nintendos classics or games from that era. Thats why im a huge fan of the VC.
So, no problem mister microcash, your fans dont want backwards compatibility because: a) what fans after that conference ? b) Your exclusives are played a couple of months after release and are then completely forgotten

@Alienfish I exactly STOPPED at the desert area Right when you come out of this "time bubble" area and get an overview over the huge desert area...Thats when i lost interest to other games.
I also never finished Xenoblade, but thats partly the fault of the many many subquests and my unwillingness to look up guides But im very near the end. Someday, i will defenitly finish Skyward Sword, maybe after the rerelease of Wind Waker. I also never finished that game (stopped at the triforce hunt...yawn)

We had the giant "Lost Planet" mech in tatsunoko VS capcom. Why not a wyvern ? Also, that wouldnt be the first monster vs monster fighting game I personally love the idea

Rare has long lost its touch, so no reason to be jealous. Microsoft will never let them reach their full potential because it wouldnt target their audience.
Also, there is no way im going to buy the xbox -359 under the current circumstances. Its like selling your soul and willingly inviting a spy to your house

It wasnt more tasteless than the promo for RE6. To be honest, THAT one was even worse. They made up a store for human meat and sculptured body parts from mince meat and such. It was so effective, that people actually believed it.
But it was right to cancel it, although im no fan of "wussing out from terrorist attacks" it may be better for the people that are directly involved with it.

Didnt they say the same about Skyward Sword ? "If it isnt the best, we wont make another one" ? And to be honest, it was far from the best sadly. One of the only Zelda games i didnt even finish :/

@SteveW The people i know see 2D and 3D Mario games as a seperate category. Thats why 3D Land got the mixed opinion, because it wanted to be both but in the end, couldnt be neither.
And talking about casuals: Lets say they stand in fron of "Lego City: Undercover". What the common casual really sees is "a Lego game". The same with Mario, they dont see "NEW Super Mario Bros U", they see "A Mario game" and they already got plenty of those on their Wii. Only a tiny fraction of the casual audience is interested in owning an entire series of games, let alone play them all. To be recognized, these games must be unique and / or WAY more popular. Yes, Mario is popular, but also an old hat. No need for the casual games to "get another one". The only flaw in my theory comes with games like Call of Duty, Fifa and the likes. They get baught like hot buns although they are literaly the same every half year. But i guess this is where "mass appeal" kicks in. "Everyone has it, so i must get it too to belong"
Regarding Galaxy 3. Galaxy was one of the best, if not THE best 3D Mario game. But you can ask around, many many fans dont want a 3rd Galaxy, The second one already felt a tiny bit stellar. We want a new game with that sort of quality, yes. But a "new" game.

If nintendo didnt screw up the launch window, the headstart would be really good. Microsoft is out of the picture if you ask me. A camera that spies on you even if the system is in standby, no used games without paying, main feature: watch television...with a device hooked to a television -.- There is no competition to be found here. The only competition they are gonna have are themselfes.
The PS4 on the other hand, although nothing spectacular feature wise, is at least a very solid console without major flaws. This can become quite a challenge, but a nintendo console will still be a nintendo console. Come for the 1st party titles, stay for them. Thats how its been for years. It may not be on par with the other 1.5 other consoles, but it has its right to be where its at

I hope that EA doesnt cound on their stuff to sell after that twitter accident Thi sis hilarious, i mean, how untrustworthy, how unlikeable and simply, how evil can this company get ?

Im glad that the WiiU version will still be made. But that raises the question: what was the money intended for in the first place if the impact of not having it is a mere delay ?

@Blaze Even without fanboyism, i also cant find anything that makes these new consoles attractive, the same old stuff with shinyer graphics.
And in regards to the "Lets Play Station"...yeah, when your new feature is social connectivity and "live streaming"...count me out. I REALLY dont need stuff like that.
The rumors about the new xbox werent flattering either and to be honest, im not even interested enough to watch the reveal. Maybe another time, but im absolutely not hyped about these 2 new consoles, and that literally NEVER happend before.

@Aviator then you missed all kinds of good stuff

I never saw the point of weapon packs. If they are more powerful than the stuff you can find ingame, it breaks the game, if they are less powerful, its a waste of money. And i dont think that these packs contain entirely new weapon types, which would make them pretty worthwhile. I didnt play the game for quite some time. Are weapon types locked for certain characters ? If yes, new characters could be interesting, if not and everyone can be set up freely, they are a bit pricy, since it would be nothing more than a new skin.
To be honest, id also would have liked some new stages. Why not recycle some of the other games merc modes ?

@Aviator You missed the best part of the game to be honest Raid mode was really nice. A bit like mercs with a lot more depth and customization to it.

I dont want them to lie either, thats not the point. But there is so much effort spent in reporting bad news, why not have some good news from time to time ?

@rjejr There are enough reasons to buy a WiiU although these reasons may not be enoughj for some people, i agree on that. The Wii was such a sleeper hit that is still very much present in the heads of people, that it in fact could be consideresd the WiiUs nemesis. It simply distracts and drags away the target audience thet the Wii has brought to gaming in the first place.

And why "i dont care". Its quite simple. I can understand that general gaming news sites post that kind of news since they dont focus on a single company and its products. So, comparing the sales charts makes perfect sense. But this is supposed to be a nintendo fan site and should provide people with news and storys that draws people TOWARDS these products and not give out doom and gloom news everyday, directly contributing to the general negative press. They should encourage people, show them the positive aspects of nintendos consoles, games etc. Tooting in the same horn as everyone else is quite contra productive, in fact, many news covered here are almost destructive.

I also see many many parents with little kids and sngle females looking at WIi packages at our local electronics market. I guess its the Wiis "casual" reputation that still atracts these people. It may be the first console they heard of that doesnt has the image of a "basement dweller geek toy" to them. For them, the Wii is a party console, much a like a karaoke machine. Since the WiiU tries to aim its marketing towards the more game affine crowd, these people are not interested. They dont look at adverts of Monster Hunter or ZombieU and if they see an abvert for Lego City, they say that the Wii also has Lego games, so why buy a new console. They are not interested in "next gen" or better tech, all they want is light and fun entertainement, wich the Wii can provide in spades for them.
The WiiU has 2 problems: Not enough software for the "hardcore crowd" which is on the way and the Wii, wich draws all the casuals away from the new, more expansive console, thinking of it as just another remodel (i talked to many who think like that)
But it all can change once Nintendo "releases the kraken"

@TwilightV Yes, they do, in spades. Over here in germany, many many elecrtronics markets still have PS2 consoles and game shelfs on display along with the current gen systems.

Two words: Who cares ?
I feal like a parrot on this site for repeating myself over and over and over. The WiiU STILL hadnt had a big AAA release. These are all still in the pipeline. Its the same as with the 3DS. It was said to be dead till the big hitters came in. And look at it now.
Also, about the whole thrid party whining: The games that brought the 3DS on top of its game were first party titles, its most successful ones are first party titles...nintendo consoles and handhelds CAN survive on first party software alone, since its simply THAT good.
Please NintendoLife. Instead of wasting your time, digging up "doomsday massages" about nintendo, how about spending that time, trieing to find out more infos about stuff that really matters. Game development progress, make some hype about them. Concentrate on the positive aspects. How do you expect the generel misconception to vanish, if you, a dedicated nintendo fansite, also mainly posts doom and gloom ?

I was a bit disappointed when i heard, that it wasnt just the regular "microgame bonanza" and went more for the "micro game within a mini game" route. Im not sure if i will get it at launch either, but i will get it sooner or later.

@Melkaticox Youre right, sorry for that. I guess i thought about them because they once were a free, 2nd party studio (first to square, second to namco) But it seemes they have fully merged with nintendo (working on Zelda, Animal crossing) which is really awesome imo. And yes, i forgot Atlus. With SMT4 coming exclusivly to the 3DS...i feel ashamed

To be honest: Sega+UbiSoft+Monolith+Platinum = >Ea+Activision

@Dreamcaster-X As long as EA has its fingers in it, it will go the way of the Dragon (Age) and die off horribly. Bioware is an absoluteely excelent studio, if the have free reign over their products. But if EA kicks in, its lost.
The same happend to the Dead Space franchise. The first one was completely made by the original dev team and it was absolutely brilliant. And now look what happend since EA started to milk the poop out of the series ?

Back on topic: Nothing more to say than..."I said it many times before"

EA is a huge pile of egocentrical tie waering idiots. Calling it a strong relationship, dont getting their will, behave like an infant. If EA was a child, it would be the ONLY child in the world worth slapping in the face for behaving like the biggest jerk. Not only towards Nintendo, bit also against the whol eindustry, the studios that they "save" from bancruptcy and them smash to pieces and the customers as well.

I dont mind the pal version of games which run at the intendet speed, which wasnt an issue with SNES games as far as i know. NES games on the other hand suffered badly, since they werent optimised, just slowed down. Anyone with the Wii and WiiU VC version of MegaMan knows what im talking about. Even the music was in slomo.

He pays you money for the litter you picked up at the garbage site. He may be a monney grubbing loan shark, but he doesnt bite your leg off The biggest villain is the annoying insurance gua (forgot his name)

Like many others said: Something smells pretty fishy about the whole thing. I wouldnt count on it ever seeing the light of day. But a pretty stupid move on their part: Buying art assets and still making the project dependent of kickstarter funds. If they dont reach their mark, they woulndt get th emoney to make the game plus, they would have spent money on art assets that probably never get used.

Chris seems to always pull the short straw when it gets to his costumes. I guess nothing beats Leon in a tuxedo.

Anyone wanne defend EA against the "anti Nintendo" claims even now ?

Sure you can use these skills. The media always tell us, that people who ran amok practiced targeting with "Violent and gory shooters like world of warcraft, where the main goal is to defend europe from islamisation" (original quote from a german talk show)
Every single thing can teach you something. Online games can teach you teamplay, so can co op board games, co op field games, co op school projects etc. Likewise, everything can implant negativ fealings. Videogames are a hobby, nothing more, nothing less.

To be honest, i really liked Lords of Shadows although im a big fan of the classics and the exploration games (hate the term metroidvania).
Mirror of Fate felt liek a mixed bag to me, it wasnt bad, but it wasnt that good either. It was a very solid, fun and well made experience but nothing spectacular.
And to compare mercurys 3D Castlevania to Konamis own attempts, Lords of Shadow wins hands down in my book. They have done the right thing if you ask me. They didnt overcomplicate it nor did they oversimplify the game. They made a good, linear action game, a good mix between the classics, the 3D titles and recend hack and slay games.
As much as i like nostalgia and retro games, you cant depend on that all the time. Nothing can compare to the classics, and trying to do so, will most likely result in disappointment. Look at MegaMan. 9 and 10 were perfectly fine games by any means and still, people call 2 and 4 the best of the series. My best guess is, that nostalgia is such a big factor in it, that you simply cannot emulate, so why trie it over and over ?

Oh boy...that will be an expansive week
Its easier to say what i WONT get: Pokemon, Retro Rocket and Planet Crashers (already got it)

@aaronsullivan "Its usually passion-driven" And since when does passion need tons of money ? If i want to make my dreams a reality, i dont make it dependent on the money i get. There is always a way to do it. Stupid example: Look at the harry potter books. One of the most successfull books of all time, made without crowdfunding and, more or less, without any starting money to begin with. It happend because she wanted it to happen.
All i ask for is a breakdown on why so much money is needed. We always moan about the big devs, that have money grow out of their ears, asking for such high prices for their games, but may not ask the question, why an indie dev needs a crap ton of money to even get started ?
If theyd make a game with substance, depth and content, that takes years upon years of work, i can get where they are coming from with these amounts.
But for games, that are 1-2 hour experiences, i have no understanding for them. Go to Kongregate, there you find masses of games like that, all done without asking for money in the first place, completely free to play.

The 3DS is defenitly up there in my top 3, although its hard to topple the "pocket SNES" that is the GBA

@Dpishere Which is completely fine, dont get me wrong. If you want to work independently, youll need some sort of insurrence. But the asked amounts are what rubs me the wrong way. Development software is not cheap, as is the right ewuipment (drawing tablets and whatnot). To enable these people to make their ideas reality im mor ethan happy to contribute. But lets be honest. Even 10.000 would be way more than they ever need. And now look at some of the STRETCH goals. Sure, to concentrate on game developing you cant have another full time job. But common, do you kno how long i need to work to get this amount of money ? Many many great indie games are made in less time than that. So for what exactly do they need that kind of money ? In my opinion, you dont help making their dreams a reality, youre just overfeeding their wallets while they have a leasure time without work, while making a 1-2 hour game.

Some of these goals are rediculously high, and thats what bugs me the most about kickstarter. Before kickstarter came to be, indie devs were able to make awesome games without asking for hundrets of thounsands of dollars and now, they make it look like its impossible to do so. To me, its fells like they are trying to milk their product, before its even made. Sure, they dont get the money if the target isnt reached, but if its reached, is such a amount of money really necessary for the games development, or is it just for their own pocket on top of the sales income ?
"Were holding this game hostage, pay us aditional 50000$ and well release it on the console of your choice"

In my opinion, nintendo was never part of the whole "generation" thingy. They always did something completely different than others. It started with the N64. Everyone jumped to discs, nintendo stayed with cartridges. In the next gen, every console became a multi media system, the GameCube was a simple gaming device. Then, the Wii stayed with SD tech and tried to revolutionize games a different way and now, the WiiU tries the same. I find it unfair and rather boring to expect, that every console must be the same as the other to be taken seriously. We have the XBOX360 and PS3, two consoles that are completely interchangable. Which console you buy merely comes down to price or a handful of exclusive titles and even they are nothing to write home about. No exclusive title on either console is a unique game. Take God of War. A hack and slay like many others, Dantes Inferno, Devil may Cry just to name a few. Or Halo, a sci fi shooter like many many others. But there is no equivalent to nintendos first party titles. Nintendo is not out of competition, they are unique, and when the whole gaming industry became one thing, than its defenitly NOT unique.

Another factor is see is nintendos strong identity. They are the only main gaming company today that still has respectable mascots. If you would make a platformer on a nintendo console, chances are people would ignore you in favor for mario. The same goes with action adventures like zelda etc.
one of the other two main companys have that, they have their key exclusives, but can they be seen as a firm mascot ? Will every FPS on the XBOX be compared to Hao by default ? No, because Halo isnt unique in the first place to be a definite "role model"
Or to lean myself a bit more out of the window: compare smash bros to sonys atempt to copy it. Smash bros unites many many completly different nintendo franchises. They bland perfectly together while still keeping their own flair. In sonys attempt, almost every character felt out of place. Some even felt like bland advertisement or "last minute decisions" to get some variaty, like parapa and co. Characters from a long dead franchise.

Video games today are all about engines, grafics, tech etc. In the golden age of gaming, no one cared on what engine a certain game worked, it was trhe game itself that counted. In out time today, the WiiU just falls flat on its face for not beeing like the others. When all you can offer is graphics, sure the WiiU is the absolute worst choice with the new upcomming systems. But which developer today comes up with anything BUT new graphics ? Thats the whole point of FPS today. Its always the same "point and shoot" game. The level designt comes down to corridor after corridor. Its all about the tech, just because there it not much else to talk about. And the audience was brainwashed over all these years to beleave "thats where its at"

On "low tech consoles" you need to come up with more than just this. Your game must impress without "bling" and thats a very very hard thing to do. I always bring this up, sorry, but look at xenoblade and compare it to other rpgs of this gen. Sure, from a tech perspective, it just uses SD tech. But what about the sheer magnitude of content, size of the game world, the story, the gameplay ? It surpasses its competition by lengths and still, everyone is drooling over FF XIIIs graphics more than Xenos...everything.

If this trend keeps on going, the saying "I only get a Nintendo console to play Nintendo games" becomes the harsh reality, because there will be nothing else. But is it that wrong ? Why is it so important, that we get the same games as every other console ? Is "we are on par with everone else" so much more important than "the WiiU is unique in every aspect" ?
Nintendos first class titles are not bound to any sales numbers, they are coming no matter what. And there are very few people in this day and age, that stay on one, single console. So why is it such a problem if you get what you came for, nintendo products and for everything else, you switch to another system. I worked with the "Wii60" movement back then, why doesnt it work now ?

Now you get your negative news from sites like 4chan ? Are you so desperate to bring negative news that you consider this ? I laughed at the forum thread about nintendolife becoming more or less "anti nintendo"...im not so sure if i laugh about it now...

I did notice that games like Orochi 3, which had minor FPS problems (short, 1-2 secons breakins) now run much smoother. Like @ThomasBW84 said, the numbers seem rediculous, but i guess the overall performance was increased due to better memory handling.

Ok, sorry @theblackdragon, i dont want to cause you any hassle That was the last thing about that topic, i have said anything i wanted anyway.

@Bluezealand My words exactly, thank you

I agree with @DarkKirby about the DLC types. I love it when devs give an established game a few hours more playtime and make it feal fresh again.
Day one DLC is just a way to maximise profits with minimal efforts (cutting an existing game into pieces)
By releasing a full game and afterwards, maybe half a year, bringing it up again with new content, not only extends the playtime, but the game will be in some sort of "ever green state", in that is is constantly on media.
If devs whould look at what fans liked and disliked about their games and craft a DLC for it, that caters to these "problems" (RPG example: too few sidequests, make a DLC with a bunch of them, Good combat system but hampered by story flow, make some kind of arena DLC focused on combat alone)
DLC can be really really good if done well but sadly, it became practice that DLC is just another way of ripping your customers of.

I love how they implemented MegaMan X and Zeros X4 weapons and skills I think its time that i finish up the PS2 predecessor, if only the translation wasnt such a mess..