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EA Executive: Shigeru Miyamoto is 'Falling Down on the Job'

Posted by Tim Latshaw

Says consoles' demands are making consumers turn to mobile

Lately, it seems Nintendo has received its fair share of disparaging remarks from EA representatives, along with unflattering comparisons to Apple. And now today, at D.I.C.E. Europe, came the one-two combo of an EA executive unflatteringly comparing Nintendo to Apple.

EA Chief Creative Officer Richard Hilleman spoke to an audience at the conference on how he believes an overload of demands from the console industry has led to an exodus of consumers toward mobile gaming innovations.

Hilleman made a point to honour Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto for his heavy influence on the means through which young players learned videogames. He shared his belief, however, that Miyamoto hasn’t been living up to his past potential in the last several years, leaving youth to turn to iOS touch devices for their first gaming experiences:

I thank Miyamoto for [his contributions to gaming]. But he's falling down on the job. And for the past 5 years that job has been taken over by a dead guy from Cupertino.

The “dead guy from Cupertino” so colloquially referred to is Steve Jobs, just so we’re all on the same page.

Hilleman also said that, while consumers may be turning towards mobile devices more often, the span of attention for each engagement is still much larger for consoles — 90 seconds for small devices compared to 2 hours for consoles, according to EA research:

Once I get your butt on a couch, I can get 2 hours for sure. That granularity means I cannot build the same game on every platform. I cannot build Battlefield on every platform.

It seems somewhat misleading to compare Miyamoto to Jobs. While both men are arguably visionaries, their individual fields, positions and talents seem to barely mirror each other.

You can see more of what Hilleman said during his talk at GamesIndustry International. Do you think any of his sentiments ring true? Let us know below.

[via gamesindustry.biz]

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PokeTune

#1

PokeTune said:

Well he's not entirely wrong. Miyamoto has seemed to have lost his touch but to say that Apple runs the gaming world and to disrespect Steve Jobs like that is....deplorable.

NavySpheal

#2

NavySpheal said:

I do agree, since Miyamoto played a part in ruining Sticker Star, I have lost respect for him. But Apple sure as hell doesn't run the gaming world.

WaLzgiStaff

#5

WaLzgi said:

So...what exactly is his point? And why does EA keep calling this "the 4th generation"?

evanescent_hero

#7

evanescent_hero said:

EA Games: Challenge Everything. Including what's acceptable to say about the dead, apparently. I expect Nintendo-bashing from EA, but "a dead guy"? Really? Jeez. I don't even know how to react to that.

galetyler

#9

galetyler said:

If Miyamoto is losing his touch then how is he still putting out better games than almost anyone else in the industry? How was Pikmin 3 the best game in the franchise and he's also working on a new IP?

EA on the other hand just got caught publishing LITERALLY the EXACT SAME GAME with a slight roster change on the 3DS and Vita.

If anyone is falling down on the job it's EA not Miyamoto or Nintendo

Kyloctopus

#10

Kyloctopus said:

Miyamoto hasn't been doing the same games he made 25 years ago.
Steel Diver. Nintendogs. Wii Music. He's the reason Sticker Star has no story
To me, he has been falling.
Apple doesn't own the game industry though. They have a share of it, but only a very small number will get recognition outside, and while I enjoy IOS games, companies like Atlus, Nicalis, and Sega, get alot of their recognition on home consoles.

MasterGraveheart

#11

MasterGraveheart said:

EA: We know creativity, so here's the same dang football game you've been playing for the past ten years! Now with better graphics and an updated roster!

Clearly they haven't played Pikmin 3.

Einherjar

#12

Einherjar said:

I dont see his point either. But to be honest, as long as he thinks that mobile games on telephones rule the gaming industry...i dont want to understand him.
Also, who here takes EA serious ? When someone from EA opens their mouth its if you open the trashcan.
And about the "dead guy". I cant stand Mr Jobs and what he stod for (hailed as some sort of messias) in the slightest, but man, does he kiss his mother with that mouth ?

CyberNature

#13

CyberNature said:

Miyamoto is 60. Hasn't the guy done enough for this industry? Seriously, give the guy a break.

Einherjar

#14

Einherjar said:

@MasterGraveheart If your lucky. Most of the time, they wont even change the graphics / roster, just copy and paste the entire game and tinker a little bit with the pallet color dials...and even that would be a lucky case.

OptometristLime

#16

OptometristLime said:

@Kyloctopus

This is not the time to start disrespectin'.

Miyamoto built this industry, he can do whatever the hell he wants now. It won't change his legacy, or the respect due to it.

And if Miyamoto is tripping, then EA is face first in the mud.

Burning_Spear

#18

Burning_Spear said:

He looks like Freak Show from Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle.

And please, this guy isn't a rash on Miyamoto's donkey. Can it, dude.

Neram

#19

Neram said:

Shigeru Miyamoto is 60 years old, cut him some slack. I think he's payed his dues at this point, not to mention done way more than EA could ever do for the industry.

kkslider5552000

#20

kkslider5552000 said:

Getting past everything else, Miyamoto has had less to do with Nintendo's direction for quite a while now. So even if you believe this, Miyamoto is not the guy responsible for a large majority of what Nintendo has done in recent years. Like his role seems to be some vague role of looking over what other leaders in the company are doing and giving advice. And making Pikmin 3.

Of course, I am not getting into:
1. The fact that you have to be far more intelligent than this person could ever hope to be expected to insult Miyamoto and look like the better man.
2. EA's reputation (especially with Nintendo fans) making it difficult to make this look anything other than millionaires being butthurt that Nintendo isn't doing what THEY exactly want (even ignoring the Origin rumors).
3. The disrespect of a guy more respected, well remembered, KNOWN BY PEOPLE and successful than he could ever hope to be.
4. The tired, short-sighted ideas that EA continues to have in terms of TEH FUTURE OF GAMING~! I mean at least they acknowledge the importance of games beyond mobile but still...eh...

And you need to go to that link guys, it is astoundingly bad.

kkslider5552000

#23

kkslider5552000 said:

@Kyloctopus Your opinion doesn't matter, considering how Wii Music and Nintendogs are a pretty good part of Nintendo's modern success.

also anyone who thinks Miyamoto forced the latest Paper Mario to have no story on a whim should know this is based on some idiotic survey in Japan where apparently no one care about the story in the previous game.

IxnayontheCK

#24

IxnayontheCK said:

While I will admit Nintendo is outta touch sometimes,they are also pioneers who are constantly chasing fun and new ideas as opposed to being boring old money mongers like EA. Nintendo has class.

Blast

#25

Blast said:

>.> This guy is a joke. I never will take mobile gaming seriously. I take HANDHELD gaming seriously. Nintendo is fine. Miyamoto is fine.

Burning_Spear

#28

Burning_Spear said:

The people who keep bashing Sticker Star need to know that Miyamoto didn't control that game. There's an Iwata Asks somewhere — I'm too lazy to find it right now — that says that Miyamoto's only real input was the enemy selection, not the play mechanic.

Gamer83

#32

Gamer83 said:

Who is Richard Hilleman? Further, while I think Nintendo has handled some things wrong in recent years and is deserving of criticism the absolute LAST company that needs to be firing shots at any other is this despicable, anti-consumer piece of poopiedoodoocacadoggieloviepoops company known as EA.

Morph

#33

Morph said:

Is there a company more up its own burro than EA, if there is id like to see them. Let this tool go back to his ivory tower and lock him in there

Gamer83

#34

Gamer83 said:

@Morph

Seriously, everybody at EA needs to shut up. It's too bad the brainwashed imbeciles in North America and Europe still run out and buy Madden and Fifa each year, which is what allows this company, that hasn't put out a single good game in nearly a decade, to exist.

flyguy6060

#35

flyguy6060 said:

Creative director just turned into "creative marketing" for EA. These guys will say anything to anyone. I am embarrassed for EA, how about you focus on creating fun games instead of rehashed crap??? Then you can comment on what the other guys are doing worse than you.

Yorumi

#37

Yorumi said:

They just want clicks, it's like the only way EA can stay in the news lately.

Adam

#40

Adam said:

Are we expected to take him seriously? His place of employment and his haircut suggest otherwise.

SomeBitTripFan

#42

SomeBitTripFan said:

This guy is an EXECUTIVE!? With all the money he probably makes, he sould be able to afford a haircut. He looks, and acts, rather unprofessional.

HappyHappyist

#43

HappyHappyist said:

are you guys seriously ripping on his hair? yeah, i know it looks unprofessional, but it's totally off topic!

gregrout

#47

gregrout said:

I find it kind of laughable to be honest here. EA has been recycling the same gaming garbage year after year. They just release a VERY recycled "legendary" FIFA 14, another battlefield and Sims on tap... Did the guy ever stop to think that trend of sequels and recycling content is driving gamers away to find new experiences through other media (e.g. tablet gaming). EA is again, lost in the woods. No swapping at the executive level will free them from being the worst company in the world two years running. http://www.dailytech.com/Quick+Note+EA+Wins+Worst+Company+Award+for+Second+Straight+Year/article30325.htm

Kyloctopus

#50

Kyloctopus said:

@OptometristLime I'm allowed to point out a developer's imperfect games, especially if they have been some of his most recent of creations. I respect and praise what he has done throughout the industry, but just as Dennis Dyack has said. No one has a perfect track record.
@kkslider5552000 So, if a game's successful it doesn't matter whether they're making monoliths or not? That's not how it works. If that's the case, we'd be praising Microsoft for Kinect, and EA for their Maddens and Fifas every year.

TwilightV

#51

TwilightV said:

This isn't news. It's a piece of trash from a garbage pile acting like it's a pretty diamond.

StephenYap3

#53

StephenYap3 said:

As a man who enjoyed the "godawful" Sticker Star (but not so much for the "amazing" Dark Moon), I will admit that Miyamoto is losing his magic. Sure, the games he did in the past were wonderful compared to now, but I have not lost faith in this man here yet. He still has plenty of miles to go, so cut him some slack, people.

TruenoGT

#54

TruenoGT said:

I don't even understand why EA needs a Chief Creative Officer. Creative ways to re-package the same game? Creative ways to monetize content? Creative ways to purchase talent and squander it?

To his point, I don't think it's Miyamoto's fault that convergence is threatening the dedicated games market. Almost every technology company in the world got knocked on their butts by the rise of iOS and Android several years ago, but game systems take many years to develop. I think if Nintendo's NEXT products don't adequately address the shifts in the market, then we can start to question Nintendo's judgment. Either way, I still think Apple and Nintendo are targeting different markets and perhaps Nintendo's market is shrinking, but it's not going away any time soon.

rjejr

#55

rjejr said:

Jealous much?

What Jobs and Miyamoto have in commom are that they are both a heckuva lot more famous and have contributed a whole lot more to gaming than this guy ever will.

And kids start on iOS bc their parents hand them phones when they are 6 months old. When they are old enough and wise enough to choose they'll get a gaming console.

As for Miyamoto - hes done all he ever needs to do, and then some. Will Wright, Wil Wheaton, Joss Whedon, John Romero, George Romero, they're all over rated, but who isnt?

ajcismo

#57

ajcismo said:

There's a basic rule of business ethics that states that a person should never speak ill of A) customers and B) competitors (and really, C) the dead, since that wasn't exactly a classy way to bring up Mr.Jobs). Nothing good ever comes of it and EA seems to be piling up the Karma points.

mch

#59

mch said:

Pretty random crap he is rhyming together. Some things are just wrong and others do have a certain truth to it, but in the end it is all overflooded by his helpless struggle for attention. EA: blablawhineblablawhine..(loop x-times from here)

the_shpydar

#61

the_shpydar said:

"EA" and "Chief Creative Officer" seem to be direct contradictions to one another. How does he even have a job? :D

JaxonH

#62

JaxonH said:

Look, Miamoto is human flesh and blood. He's not perfect- nobody is. Ben Franklin created a lot of amazing inventions, but has anyone considered how many non-functional failures the man created in between? Even Thomas Edison made 9,999 crap lightbulbs before he made the one that shined. Not EVERY GAME is going to be a shining lightbulb! Geniuses are never without their ups AND downs. No one remembers Franklin for his failed contraptions, they remember him for harnessing electricity! When everything is said and done, history only remembers the ups, and so it will be with Miamoto.

Certainly a man representative of a company responsible for an entire LEGION of the most utterly generic, worthless iterations of mega-budget pop games feasible would have the sense not to mock a legend of gaming, the last of a dying breed willing to showcase imagination and creative gameplay!

OptometristLime

#63

OptometristLime said:

@Kyloctopus what KKslider is saying though, is that you have unsuccessfully attacked some of Miyamoto's recent efforts. Disliking the games is one thing, but if all you're saying is your interest in his games has lessened... well frankly who cares. This article is about discrediting a great man for being creative and independent, he has been uncompromising in those respects which is the exact reason for the existence of games like Nintendogs and Wii Music.

psychoshamoo

#65

psychoshamoo said:

I quit reading at "mobile gaming innovation. Everything beyond that is just more pointless drivel.

banacheck

#66

banacheck said:

According to EA research, mobile games hold the attention for 90 seconds and PC games for 90 minutes, but consoles can keep engagement for two hours at a time.

Just this statement shows you EA's research is worth s**t, and this idiot spits it out as fact.

And while your telling us this some other idiot from EA are saying this: EA's Frank Gibeau: PS4 and Xbox One will revitalise console gaming.

Make your minds up.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/gamesblog/2013/sep/25/ea-frank-gibeau-ps4-xbox-one-console

VoiceOfReason

#70

VoiceOfReason said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Miyamoto create Wii sports. The game that broke his own sales record for super Mario bros.(Yeah I know that includes pack-in copies, but still) That means Miyamoto has the two top selling video games of all time. I wouldn't be hating on him for one or two bad games.

Fingeldor

#71

Fingeldor said:

Miyamoto will be remembered for years to come for his mark and legacy in gaming. This guy and (perhaps to some extent) EA will not. It's popular to criticize Nintendo these days and he's getting on the bandwagon to say, 'hey, me too.'

Also, I'd like to add that comparing him to a 'dead guy from Cupertino' is probably not a necessary remark. It's not classy or professional - it's just disrespectful.

Snkfiend

#72

Snkfiend said:

Why is people blaming DICE over making Battlefield because they work for the garbage company so don't blame the developers. That's just like blaming Infinity Ward over Activision BS.

C7_

#73

C7_ said:

Implying that Steve Jobs was even interested in gaming and that mobile gaming in its current state is comparable to dedicated gaming consoles. He's only saying this because gaming on your phone is much more receptive to cancerous in-game transactions because you only game for 5-10 minutes at a time and dedicated gaming systems generally hate paying for content they thought they purchased.
Hilariously arrogant defaming of someone whose work inspired and captivated millions just to pretend to be ahead of the game.

MadAdam81

#74

MadAdam81 said:

It seems he's just upset that the Wii U and 3DS don't have to be played on the couch, and that must be why not many got FIFA 13 on them...

SMW

#75

SMW said:

Sounds like this dude has no respect for others, including the dead. Why should we pay him any attention then?

bizcuthammer

#77

bizcuthammer said:

I will say that Miyamoto's games (Pikmin 3 aside) havent been as good in the last 3-4 years as they used to be. That said, all of them are 100x better than anything EA has EVER put out.

Snkfiend

#78

Snkfiend said:

I love Battlefield that's the only thing I want from DICE regardless of it EA is my most hated company Crapcom is first maybe that will change.

Beetlejuice

#79

Beetlejuice said:

@banacheck

huh? you disagree with his statement that console/PC gaming provides a deeper and more engaging gameplay experience than does a game on an iPad/mobile phone?

Jazzer94

#80

Jazzer94 said:

@galetyler I don't think they really got caught as they made no attempt the lack of changes and said the legacy versions only contained kit updates.
Edit: Pikmin 3 best in the trilogy
Untitled

MeloMan

#83

MeloMan said:

Wasn't EA like... one of the devs/pubs giving input on what the Wii U should have, etc.? So... where's the love (previously), or were you just pulling our leg? Games people play.

Senario

#84

Senario said:

Give me a sec to laugh as the worlds worst game publisher tries to insult Shigeru Miyamoto, the greatest game creator of all time. Lolololololol. As far as I am concerned, Shigeru Miyamoto has not lost his touch as Pikmin 3 was just amazing and definitely a great game.

Nictendo64

#86

Nictendo64 said:

Why do all the idiots think that It's Nintendo's job to compete with Apple? Where did that idea even come from? How come nobody brings up Microsoft? That would make a lot more sense. No wonder everyone hates EA, after that comment I'm never buying any of their games again.

Phle

#87

Phle said:

Sigh. Since when does EA care about anything else than money? Shut up EA.

Ophis

#88

Ophis said:

I would pay attention to his words, if his wig wouldn't distract me

MarioFanatic38

#89

MarioFanatic38 said:

So the worst gaming company trying to talking smack about Nintendo, this just to funny while all their games suck. Nintendo games are super great they must be doing something right.This is why I hate EA. EA ain't in no kind of positions to talk smack about Nintendo. Ya'll just don't know how much I hate EA.

Kyloctopus

#90

Kyloctopus said:

@OptometristLime A game can look good on paper, but his dream game turns out to be almost broken. I like when developers become creative, but if that takes effect on how the game feels, for the worse, there's something to complain about.
Steel Diver was a retail rip off, Miyamoto must have some sort of responsibility for that.
I can't complain too much about Nintendogs, yet let's keep in mind here that these are Miyamoto's most recent IPs, and they aren't close to be compared to Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, or most of his creations and hidden gems. He's not in the same mind frame anymore.

ultrakatie64

#92

ultrakatie64 said:

Can't even remember the last EA game I bought. Was interested in SimCity, but hey look how that turned out!

Xiao_Pai

#94

Xiao_Pai said:

...His games seem fine to me...Sticker Star wasn't the greatest but it was no failure either. And Pikmin 3 is awesome, so...yeah...I kinda don't care what EA has to say anyway...>_>

PrincessSugoi

#95

PrincessSugoi said:

If there's one thing Miyamoto and Jobs have in common is that they're well respected pioneers in their field of expertise and will be remembered by millions for decades to come. This troll whom no one has heard of until today and his worthless opinions will be forgotten by tomorrow.

Epicnessofme99

#96

Epicnessofme99 said:

Miyamoto sure as heck hasn't been messing up, Sticker Star was only considered bad because of the removal of RPG elements because he wanted to keep things different and Pikmin 3 has to be the best Pikmin game to date, and he has his new "project" that will be announced soon so I don't really consider that messing up especially at his age.

GN004Nadleeh

#97

GN004Nadleeh said:

used to be you sell the console at a loss with a pack in game and 2 controllers, now they believe they should make money off everything including the videos we make of the games, they need to get on with the times, stop dumbing down the games for everyone, pikmin with a time limit to do the job and still need time to get the part home or it goes back was awesome.

gregrout

#98

gregrout said:

@Snkfiend I'd like to double that... this guy really "fills in a lot of blanks", like why EA hasn't done anything creative in a decade.

WinterWarm

#99

WinterWarm said:

EA = Everybody's an *******.

I believe Miyamoto is never gonna lose his touch. He's one of the alltime greatest! Okay sure, Sticker Star... Um, hellllooooo, PIKMIN 3?! Thanks for not noticing EA!

EA's my least favorite developer. Even Gameloft's better than EA. And they made a Candy Crush/GTA title on DSiWare. ( See: GangStar 2: Kings Of LA).

kereke12

#100

kereke12 said:

OK first mobile games are terrible, they waste battery, they slow down the processer out of anything you use doesn't matter what it is. Second EA hasn't been hasn't reached standards in over 5 years, they haven't created anything good in over 7 years. All the games they made were good but not as good the best game they made was NFS:Underground. Third Miyomoto has been doing his job, EA hasn't. So EA needs to do research on its statics before they talk down on other companies.

LDXD

#101

LDXD said:

But EA has been messing up and falling down for years go figure :/

AlexSora89

#102

AlexSora89 said:

Be more considerate when posting a joke. Targeting another user is not tolerated. -Lz

Let's just say I was surprised by the article's pic's caption - I never thought I could see "EA" and "Creative" in the same sentence.

necrobane84

#104

necrobane84 said:

I don't really agree with the Exec's analysis. Personally speaking, most mobile games suck, and I'm not that big a fan of Apple or Jobs. That said, I think if Miyamoto were a bit more like Jobs, Nintendo would be in a better spot. I mean, Jobs could sell sell you a gold-plated turd. I mean, sure, it would still smell and look like crap, but Jobs could make you want it enough that you'd buy into it.

Eisenbolan

#105

Eisenbolan said:

EA is just poor sports. They sold few games on the WII, 3DS etc. I have refused to buy EA for years all their games are, are simply new paint and updated rosters. Nintendo should cancel all games from EA.

Paperluigi

#106

Paperluigi said:

Hillarious, what a joke. The funny thing is that Miyamoto admitted his mistakes with the extra time it has taken to develop Wii U games but at least the games have been properly developed, like Pikmin 3 for example. On the other hand look at what EA has done to Sim City, they have taken a great game and wrecked it. In terms of dropping the ball over the last 5 years what about animal crossing new leaf? Its one of the best casual games released in the last 5 years and you wont find it on any tablet. EA are a joke.

Ryo_Hazuki-san

#107

Ryo_Hazuki-san said:

lol this coming from a company that was voted worst company in America 2 years in a row! lol unreal what people will do to get some publicity...

briwipdx

#109

briwipdx said:

eeeee aaaaaayy. ooo sports! snooze fest. try creating an actual genre instead of simulating real-life, already established, sports as videogames. ugh. boredom ensues.

CaPPa

#110

CaPPa said:

Every time EA spews out some garbage it just reinforces my decision to never buy one of their games again (I'll only buy used).

aaronsullivan

#112

aaronsullivan said:

This guy is just spewing dramatic inflammatory garbage to get attention and a reaction. I won't waste any more time on it, and I humbly suggest no one else does either.

ChessboardMan

#113

ChessboardMan said:

Wow, EA seem to have gone slightly backwards again.
Ok, Miyamoto may not make as many nor as highly rated games as he used to, but the man has been at the forefront of the industry for longer than nearly everyone else in it. He's like Miyazaki, both have had their hits and misses with their more recent work, and maybe it feels like their hits don't shine as well as their older ones did, but their misses are still pretty good anyway! But if someone bad-mouthed Miyazaki, saying he's been sleeping on the job, letting those guys from Pixar (or some studio, I don't think Pixar films are really the mobile gaming of animated movies), then the Interviewer would march out of the Interview in disgust.
Miyazaki is (finally) retiring now, and well deserves his rest. Miyamoto has done a great deal for the industry, and will probably do a lot more still, but I don't think it is fair to bring him down over a few not so great titles, especially when he is trying to take a back seat. Blaming Nintendo's, no, gamings problems on his "falling down on the job" is beyond unfair and rash. And even if Miyamoto is losing his touch, is that really a bad thing? It just means it time for someone else to fill his shoes, and unless he has the ability to fill them himself, I don't see this guy as being one to talk, Miyamoto is in his sixties, what's his excuse?
I also fail to see how Mr Jobs compares to Miyamoto. Does he even know who Miyamoto is? Jobs has contributed to gaming by bringing in a new platform. Miyamoto has contributed directly to games themselves. One's hardware/platform, the other's software/game-design, and a lot more famous for the design. Name me one thing that Jobs has contributed to game design… and I'd still be hard pressed to believe he'd taken Miyamoto's job.
Also I see no reason to disrespect Jobs like that. The guy is clearly just out to get a reaction. … which we've given him. Bugger.
And the last part makes no coherent sense. You can't make the same game for every platform? Ummm, ok? So?

Caryslan

#114

Caryslan said:

And EA manages to sink to another low by insulting not one, but two important figures in the history of gaming and technology. First off, it is shameful to refer to Steve Jobs as the "dead guy from Cupertino". He has a name, and he deserves to have it said properly. Do we refer to famous people that have passed away as "That dead guy"?

What a classless move and this idiot likely angered the group that he claims to be a huge market for his company. Steve Jobs is an icon to Apple fans, and to have him referred to in such as crass way is not going to win him any popularity points with Apple fans.

As for Miyamoto, how is he a failure? The man has numerous recent games that have been huge sellers and was involved in the creation of the DS, 3DS, Wii, Wii U. Of those four, only the Wii U is having some trouble although its not even a year old.

And sure, Wii Music and Sticker Star were not as well received as they could have been. How many EA titles have flopped in recent years? Do I have to remind EA that they had a hand in killing Wing Commander, Ultima, and maybe even Medal of Honor.

Hey EA, how's NBA Live going? You've had years to get it right, you got something that can compete with NBA2K? Or do you need another few years to figure it out?

And who is this guy anyway? Another interchangeable CEO of EA that keeps the status quo going? The only EA CEO that had any impact on gaming is Trip Hawkins, and he's been gone since the early 90's. If this guy was fired tomorrow would anyone really care?

Here's the difference, people care about Jobs and Miyamoto. They are legends in their field. Who really cares about this guy? Would anyone know who he is?

B3ND3R

#116

B3ND3R said:

Since when does an EA executive actually have the right to make such bold statements? EA is the biggest money grubber out of all of the gaming industry. All their mobile games are pretty much unplayable unless you... wait for it... Pay them more money to get extra things that only work once... This guy cannot sit there and hate on Miyamoto when he himself hasn't done anything noteworthy in the industry... Kinda like Phil Fish, jumps into the industry, hates on Nintendo in some way, loses internet cred, disappears. It's not like EA has a shortage of replacements for this guy.

WaLzgiStaff

#117

WaLzgi said:

For everyone who's blaming Miyamoto for the no story in Sticker Star: read the Iwata Asks once again: http://kotaku.com/5964444/miyamoto-convinced-the-people-behind-paper-mario-sticker-star-to-ditch-the-story

Miyamoto was not really the main reason. He only brought up the question of whether or not the game needed a story and through a survey the director of the script decided to not put one in. Of course every gaming journal cherry picked Miyamoto's quotes and only presented that.

Gobelee

#119

Gobelee said:

I will not stand by while the Crypt Keeper slams Miyamoto. I have played your games EA, you have no grounds to be on such a high horse. Call me when you do something original.

burninmylight

#120

burninmylight said:

@brucelebnd

The story in that link made my whole freaking day, thanks for posting it! I've been waiting years for people to open their eyes about the joke that is the Madden franchise.

RespectOpinions

#121

RespectOpinions said:

While I respect the guy's opinion, Pikmin 3 was plenty fun and creative. And this guy works at EA, so I'll take what says with a grain of salt.

Yoshis_VGM

#122

Yoshis_VGM said:

This is pretty offensive towards Miyamoto. I actually liked Sticker Star (I know, I'm so WEIRD because I like a game everyone else hates...), Dark Moon, and Pikmin 3 is my favorite Wii U game at the moment. Sure, he doesn't make as many games anymore, but that doesn't mean he's lost his touch.

DanMan82

#123

DanMan82 said:

At least the games that Miyamoto helped make didn't have extremely bad glitches in them and an online system with poor user authentication mechanisms. Can't say that about any of EA's games.

Ren

#125

Ren said:

His statements are in pretty bad taste but sadly he's not entirely wrong. I wouldn't "blame" Miyamoto for anything, he's done his job and it's really not up to him anymore, it hasn't been for a while. If anything you can thank Iwata for Nintendos problems lately. He has no business trying to run a business as large as Nintendo.

Jobs had no intention of competing with consoles or introducing kids to games but he certainly did spearhead the phenomenon that is moving the market to simpler, smaller experiences, that people prefer on other devices that just HAPPEN to generally do a lot more than any game machine can. It's pathetic that the fans here can't bear to acknowledge the myriad of reasons why people are absolutely more likely to get a phone/tablet than a console first.

Games are just a bonus, not everyone can drop 300+ on a machine that only plays games. but nearly everyone HAS to have a phone and they'll buy one first in a heartbeat. Is that so hard to understand? be realistic. That said Miyamotos' and Jobs' are/were unrivaled genius of modern design, hardware and software, neither of them deserve this guys' trolling.

AJ_Lethal

#126

AJ_Lethal said:

I didnt thought somebody could defecate bidirectionally until I read this, but EA always has way more originality on cringeworthy material than on making games

brucelebnd

#127

brucelebnd said:

@Gamer83

lol maybe...

what I find the funniest is that EA can take hit after hit and nobody in the gaming industry says anything about.

in 2012 they lost $381 million, this year they are laying off 10% of their workforce

http://kotaku.com/layoffs-at-ea-today-481149396

but nobody is out there saying EA is doomed when all indicators point to it.

Nintendo did lose $500 million last year but returned to profit in 1 quarter but Nintendo is dead blah blah blah.

jayclayx

#128

jayclayx said:

@galetyler back in the nes era Miyamoto changes the world with super mario bros, he did it again with super mario 64, but in 1997 he rules the world releasing ocarina of time, there was no one in the world who was able to compite with this sir back then, we are in 2013, many developers are making great games arounf the world, tell me how pikmin 3 can compare with his glorious days?, there is no doubt Miyamoto is a guru, but yeah he have lost his touch, it is normal, he is gettin' old.

OptometristLime

#129

OptometristLime said:

@ScroogeMcLz

Hmm. Just by reading Kotaku while keeping your words in mind, it's clear that the title of the article was... lacking. Misleading to be sure. And it's hard to arrive at the appropriate conclusion without first dismissing the headline, entirely.

Phew Miyamoto is absolved and I hope to pick this game up. xD

JoShCoNker

#130

JoShCoNker said:

I don't think is good to compare Pikmin franchise with Zelda franchise, since Zelda OoT is one of the best games ever made (if im correct of curse), back in time when N64 was everything to most of the people and Sony was making his road to the industry Miyamoto impress the whole world with something never done specially with a game so huge like a Zelda game but by now with today's standards its kinda difficult making a game that re-defines gaming or make significant changes into gameplay mechanics like Zelda OoT did in 97-98. Also the dude is 60 years-old maybe we should wait and give him a try with the WiiU.

rbmoura85

#131

rbmoura85 said:

@AeroTech hehe you have lost the respect for miyamoto because he has made one game you didnt like? so, almost singlehandedly creating modern videogames as we know it was not that big of a deal, and all those masterpieces didnt count very much? hehe a slight overreaction, i would say

Denver

#135

Denver said:

This guy is totally right. Miyamoto's games as of recent have paled in comparison to the games Steve Jobs made.... Wait.

WaLzgiStaff

#136

WaLzgi said:

@OptometristLime Eh, that article was the first one I found with the quote, and judging by the comments here, it was definitely mistitled and misinforming. Miyamoto only made a suggestion. He didn't directly make an order or did it himself.

FJOJR

#137

FJOJR said:

That's one professional, credible looking dude there. He wears a sign on the street saying it's the end of days I'm sure.

allav866

#138

allav866 said:

Miyamoto has the respect of everyone who grew up with a Nintendo system. It doesn't matter what he does anymore, because we'll always remember what he's done.

djepic209

#139

djepic209 said:

I don't feel that Miyamoto is losing his touch rather then building it and expanding on it. You can tell his direction has changed and he wants to explore your imagination and bring the kid back out from you. Like one of my other favorite creators ever, Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli, Miyamoto has only begun :)

EA is full of it, especially this guy. Who is he again? What has he done for the gaming industry other then try to ruin it with monetizing schemes?

TrueWiiMaster

#141

TrueWiiMaster said:

Sigh. This guy is basically saying that kids going to smartphones to play games, which are easier, simpler, and cheaper, is Miyamoto's fault, because he hasn't given them enough reason to do otherwise. Aside from the fact that EA would fit in that same boat he's describing, I have to point out that many kids are still playing Nintendo's games. I couldn't say about their first gaming experiences, but several of my nephews and a couple of my nieces love Nintendo. On top of that, their favorite franchises are the ones Miyamoto made, like Mario and DK.

Wheels2050

#143

Wheels2050 said:

@TimLatshaw: What don't you get about his comparison? He's not comparing the men, he's comparing the role their companies play in introducing video games to people.

To (almost) everybody else, is it really necessary to resort to personal attacks? Sure, he's said something you may not like about Nintendo, but that's no reason to lash out at him. How about some considered, thoughtful responses - there are only a handful in the 145 comments on this article.

NintendoLife is quickly becoming a cesspit of rabid fanboys who won't accept a single bad word about Nintendo, whether it's warranted or not, which is annoyingly effective at preventing any of the interesting discussions we used to have here.

P-Gamer-C

#144

P-Gamer-C said:

nintendo is not the same the fan base is filled with crazy social rejects who tolorate what ever they do

rdp223

#145

rdp223 said:

Somewhat agree...but seriously..mobile gaming is only fun as a pass time and that's all there is too it. Haha funny guy. But I could care less for mobile gaming...all it does is kill batteries and I ain't about that that life haha.

SanderEvers

#146

SanderEvers said:

EA doesn't make games for Nintendo systems. So we should ignore them.

It's because of idiots like this guy we don't see any EA games on the Wii U. So we really shouldn't pay any attention to him.

Artwark

#147

Artwark said:

Honestly, I completely agree to the fact that Sticker Star was disappointing in terms of both story and gameplay but Miyamoto wasn't involved much in that game seeing that he's now a supervisor/producer. The thing is they are trying to make games without him so that they can gain confidence that even after he retires, they won't bother worrying about his presence because the new producers/devs need to understand the point of the Nintendo franchises. When you play Sticker Star and New Super Mario Bros 2, those games were made by the new employees and as long as those games sold well and made money, they will get confidence to make more games.

I can understand the problems Nintendo is going here but they are still not losing touch here I mean they still have Pokemon, Fire emblem and third party support. I'm sure that after a few years, Nintendo will be back to its roots with the Wii U and 3DS.

Dream team is still a great game even though it plays similarly to BIS so they are definitely going somewhere there.

As for Miyamoto, He's already done enough for the industry so its fair to say that he's not like he use to but at the same time but that doesn't change the fact that he's still the greatest game designer out there. Infact If it weren't for him, a lot of game designers wouldn't be motivated to become game designers. I still have respect for this guy no matter what.

And E.A I'd advise you to mind your business. You don't need to tell other people what the're suppose to do to be better.

treeofmana

#148

treeofmana said:

Beyond any ludicrous comparisons and rude attitude, what a tasteless way to refer to Steve Jobs. Wow. I haven't at all liked what I've recently heard about this company.

AugustusOxy

#149

AugustusOxy said:

No, what is hurting games is the astronomical monopolization and over inflation of the business. The forced impact of it becoming mainstream and the BIGGEST offender on this concept, is you EA.

Williaint

#151

Williaint said:

People who say these kind of things are either jealous, or scared.
Every time I hear how negative EA is toward Nintendo, it makes me want to have EA succeed less.

ICHIkatakuri

#152

ICHIkatakuri said:

@Kyloctopus Shigsy May have tried and failed a few times recently but this guy has given up! He's in charge of EA sports and so is responsible for the "no new features" in FIFA on the DS, Wii and Vita this year. Also I don't understand why he seems to make the point that Nintendo is responsible for all gamers becoming gamers in the first place and it has nothing to do with them either? If the whole gaming industry is reliant on one man, then why don't they support him?

Zael

#155

Zael said:

EA makes the worst games ever, stupid games with horrible characters, so why this man is speaking?
The tablet and smartphone are increasing but the home consoles remain the best way to play and nintendo makes home console
The problem is on the hand held industry but the 3ds is doing well, yes handheld consoles have lost some costumers but I think they can survive because the controls are different
Miyamoto still makes games, see pikmin 3, a great game, and is working on something new, and in nintendo there are many talented people, I don't understand what ea wants,
EA has made this industry worse than it was

Zombie_Barioth

#156

Zombie_Barioth said:

Yes, cause the market is just like it was 20-30 years ago. Its not Miyamoto's, Nintendo's, or anyone else's fault that there are more options out there for consumers. People still buy their games in droves but its just cheaper and more convenient to hand your phone over to your kids for a few minutes than shell out for a dedicated device.

At any rate both Miyamoto and Steve Jobs have acomplished more in their careers than most people could ever dream of, they both earned their legacy. You don't get that high up and realize there are certain boundaries you never cross, its like EA is actually shooting for the 3rd year running for worst company in America.

retro_player_22

#157

retro_player_22 said:

Well Miyamoto himself had being in the gaming business for quite some decades now so it's bound that he will lose some of his creativity now that the world is clutter with ideas all over the place. As for Steve Job that guy had nothing to do with gaming so I won't say nothing of him here but Apple surely never intend to be focus on gaming and if they do they had already failed with the Apple Pippin, those iPhone, iPod, iMac, etc., are not gaming focus instead gaming was included only as an after thoughts.

Kosmo

#158

Kosmo said:

EA can start telling Nintendo how to run its business when it learns how to make good games. They have been spitting crap for the last 5 years or so while Nintendo was flying high. Fifa? Crap. Movie games? Crap! And games on cell phones? Generally crap.

heathenmagic

#159

heathenmagic said:

Really hate this move to more mobile gaming. Long live consoles! Never played a game on my smartphone and don't think I will, but if the day comes when consoles die a death, I am out of gaming for good! Got plenty of hobbies, but would miss Nintendo games for a start.

Snkfiend

#161

Snkfiend said:

@gregrout Well true they never created nothing new except for Road Rash and others (Genesis/N64/PS) which we haven't had that for years. EA lost touch to its fans and the companies years ago which is why I barley buy they BS regardless of it I like Battlefield before EA picked up DICE and I like Bioware games regardless of the Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco. I stated any company that doesn't respect me or it's consumers I either buy they crap used or I wont buy it at all Crapcom for instance they been doing BS under the radar for years before they spewed they practices. Alas this fool of an EA exec needs to zip his mouth and stop proving why EA are so hated in america.

SneakyStyle

#163

SneakyStyle said:

Lol, gawd EA sports, copy last years game add 10hrs of dev work and call it a new game... then they expect people to pay full price for it.

They wonder why nobody plays EA crud anymore, seems to me like he's just trying to blame others for EA failing or something.

Dolphinsquared

#165

Dolphinsquared said:

I think EA has to watch out for themselves. For a third-party company that makes games every year, I can hardly explain the quality of their work. Of all the things he said, I can only agree on one point: the gaming industry is tough, whether it's home or portable based. But I don't see why drag in a company experienced with computer and mobile devices into the mix and say "Miyamoto sucks". Not cool dude.

To me, I think if I were to choose between the 3DS, Vita, Android or iPhone for mobile gaming, 3DS and Vita will be in the top half of the rankings. I find a richer experience on the go with the 3DS. And iPhones and Android can be amongst the items I'm just carrying for smartphone use, not gaming.

GamerZack87

#166

GamerZack87 said:

What is wrong with some people? Not only did this EA executive make such snide comments about Miyamoto-sama, but he had the nerve to disrespect the late Steve Jobs?! Whoever said chivalry is dead may actually be onto something... :(

Cohort

#167

Cohort said:

EA have always been a s**t stain on the industry, back when they were trying to get into the console market Nintendo refused to give them publishing rights as did SEGA, so they decided to muscle in on the console market by acquiring a "rogue" Genesis devkit and reverse engineered it in order to blackmail SEGA in to giving them a deal on EA's terms. They also dropped support for the Dreamcast over "SEGA SPORTS" because EA wanted the whole pie and they don't like any form of competition.

Now it looks like they're now trying do a similar thing to Nintendo, because "allegedly" they refused to integrate EA’s Origin online service into the Wii U as it’s main online OS.

...and regarding the "legacy" thing with FIFA... EA have been doing this since 1993, it was only when PES started to get popular (being the much better game) and people found a way to mod the game to incorporate licensed kits that EA actually decided to make changes to the way FIFA played by basically copying the the old PES engine.

DESS-M-8

#168

DESS-M-8 said:

Jesus Christ I would love to see EA go under. Finally, quality develops would have a crack at at least one sports licence and the other developers such as criterion and dice could develop not under the cloud of crap that is EA.
I would like to know if EA authorised this man to say this drivel. I've never heard such a constan slew of utter dogs*** from one guys mouth.

Snkfiend

#169

Snkfiend said:

@DESS-M-8 Thank you man finally a person that know it's isn't the devs fault it's EA. Sadly I agree developers like DICE, Criterion, and Bioware shouldn't be in fault for what EA is a pile of "darkspawn" that HIDE behind they developers which is talented and get the cut of THEY freaking profits because they just publish the games which is kinda sad. Now this exec wants to talk about 2 legends that made what the Computer and Video Game business it is today Sigh........EA just dig a hole and grovel please.

Park_Triolo

#171

Park_Triolo said:

That lowlife should offer a public apology to the family of Steve Jobs. How dare he make such a heartless and cold remark?! He is not even worthy of being walked upon by my 5 years old dirty worn out shoes. Well, maybe he is smelling the coffee about the non existing quality and money loss his company stands for, but he won't admit it.

Rief

#172

Rief said:

And since we know EA has no plans on how to make good things, we can turn all their rubbish into the opposite and then it gets magically true!

Araknie

#174

Araknie said:

Miyamoto does games with a heart like Pikmin 3.

EA does Battlefield 4.

All said, all understood.

8bitforever

#175

8bitforever said:

EA sucks as a game company these days. They are the ones that are slipping, not Nintendo. I can't remember the last time I ever wanted a game made by EA. Now that we have Tecmo Bowl in the eshop there is no need for Madden. Just go kill yourself EA, Nintendo is made if pure awesome and there isn't anything you can do about it.

Nintenjoe64

#176

Nintenjoe64 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if EA got rid of this guy. His words will be reported elsewhere just for the Steve Jobs comment. Most publishers would have given him the boot immediately.

TimLatshawAdmin

#178

TimLatshaw said:

@Wheels2050 You could very well be right that Hilleman was not comparing the two men directly as much as he was commenting on their companies as a whole, but even then it seems insulting to both Miyamoto and Jobs to reduce them to simple figureheads. The reason we use their names instead of just saying "Nintendo" or "Apple" is because we recognize their vast individual achievements. Hilleman could have just as well said Iwata, who I think has a role more close to that of Jobs or, if he wanted to continue with "dead guys," Yamauchi. To go into individuals I think muddled the point he was trying to make by placing too much weight on too few shoulders and unnecessarily disrespecting the influence of both Miyamoto and Jobs by cramming them into little boxes marked "all of Nintendo" and "all of Apple."

I agree that I'd rather see more well-thought out discussion here. I think Hilleman's statements should be fully regarded as he is still part of the pulse of the gaming industry as a whole. His tone can be argued, but we shouldn't let it so greatly influence our reactions to what he has actually said.

Kyloctopus

#179

Kyloctopus said:

For those that say "EA is the worst company in America". The voters are clearly strongly biased. Every gaming news site felt the need to put this article in, yet EA does plenty of great ideas and games, that people want to overlook. If you were to get everyone in America voting for worst company, rather than a bunch of angry gamers, I can gurantee you, it wouldn't be EA at the top.

MAB

#180

MAB said:

You can't make a intelligent discussion out of something as dumb as what this guy said ;)

banacheck

#182

banacheck said:

@ActionMan

huh? you disagree with his statement that console/PC gaming provides a deeper and more engaging gameplay experience than does a game on an iPad/mobile phone?

According to EA's research someone who plays on a PC has the same attention span as those do that play on mobile phone's 90 seconds, console gamers spend 2 hours playing. This is highly unlikely as i know people who spend over 8hours playing on consoles. Also the same with PC's i know people that blow there 90 seconds of research out of the water. So yes i do disagree with EA research.

Tomrok

#183

Tomrok said:

Guy with a skullet proclaims a god of gaming is overrated...not convinced.

ScorpionMG

#184

ScorpionMG said:

stupid hippie guy compares miyamoto with that guy? Are you kidding me..? Miyamoto is a huge legend, i can say 'god of games'. F*** U EA.

(see what i did there with the U?)

jjmesa16

#185

jjmesa16 said:

The only person that is falling down on the job is Iwata/Reggie. They need to do a better job of marketing. I don't even remember the last time I saw a Wii U commercial in the U.S. Now is the time to do it with the price drop.

Miyamoto is making great games. Pikmin 3 is by far the best game in the series and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon is a great sequel. However Nintendo's marketing campaign sucks so these games aren't selling like they should.

Dogpigfish

#186

Dogpigfish said:

Pikmin 3 is excellent. Just more Nintendo bashing so their games don't fail now that they've opted resources to MS. They don't know if they made a stupid decision or not, but they won't be around for long at EA either way. That company is made up of contractors.

letsplay

#187

letsplay said:

I disagree. I think with the flood of cheap games comes customer depression. They will look for other venues like Nintendo. Nintendo needs to keep offering excitement the others don't have.

ToxieDogg

#188

ToxieDogg said:

In years to come, both Miyamoto and Steve Jobs will be widely remembered as creative visionaries in their respective fields.

In years to come, all Richard Hilleman will be remembered as is 'that dork from EA who made stupid comments about Miyamoto and Jobs'.

That says it all, really.

Jellitoe

#189

Jellitoe said:

I do agree that Nintendo games have begun to get lame and Miyamoto is the root cause. He has too much control and has not developed any new exciting ideas. Nintendo has rehashed everything for the last few years. Sad really. With all that talent they can not produce a game that people say "I must have that". I would not own a Wii U today if it was not for the 3rd party offerings

ledreppe

#193

ledreppe said:

I don't like these Nintendo/Apple comaprisons. How many 1st party games has Apple produced: None! To say that a dead man from Cupertino is running the games industry is absurd! Nintendo will weather this storm, they always do.

ToxieDogg

#195

ToxieDogg said:

@Hit-Girl lol, very true :D

I can't even remember what the guy's name was who made the offensive comments about the Wii U on Twitter without looking it up.

supersix

#197

supersix said:

EA has such a culture of disrespect and it comes straight from the top. Some of the things they've said in public I wouldn't type while hiding behind my keyboard. It's no surprise that the average gamer can't have a civil conversation.

Mommar

#199

Mommar said:

@GN004Nadleeh

No, used to be you sell the console for profit. Sony and Microsoft mega conglomerates changed that because they have other divisions that can make money while their game divisions are hemorrhaging the first few years because they're subsidizing you a system. You need to research your facts before posting.

jorgem696

#200

jorgem696 said:

This is very wrong I read this article yesterday but I could because I want log in to my account so I went ape poopiedoodledingdongledoggiepoops yesterday for what this guy said >:(
Watch the profanity please — TBD

Platypus101

#201

Platypus101 said:

Lol! The guy LOOKS like Jobs... Beard, hair, glasses and all. Really? The gaming industries issues all fall on Jobs and Miyamoto? I don't think so. The reality is that developers (like EA) have become complacent and let's face it, down right lazy. Seems that most "new games" are hardly that, "new". Sequels upon sequels and bad ports of PC games leads the consumer base to either PC or mobile gaming... Ha! Take that! What I meant to say was : "Objection!" :)

UnseatingKDawg

#202

UnseatingKDawg said:

I... uh... what exactly do I make of this? Comparing Steve Jobs to Shigeru Miyamoto? That ain't right. And how does "I cannot make Battlefield 4 for every platform" come into this? That just sounded like a lame excuse for some reason.

If I've lost respect for anyone, it's EA. What little respect I had to begin with sure ain't there now. And I don't care if they don't support the Wii U - Nintendo's better off without this half-arsed company.

Platypus101

#203

Platypus101 said:

@Jellitoe really? How can you say that? Wii Fit and Wii Sports took the world by storm! Converting, what were essentially non-gamers, into gamers...

Jellitoe

#204

Jellitoe said:

@Platypus101

They took casuals by storm, mostly people who probably will not be back to the Wii U, Its true they were fun games, but to the players who wanted something more of a traditional game they gave us Skyword Sword, one of the worse Zelda's ever.

I love Nintendo, but they have not wow me since LoZ: TP and Galaxy. Everything since has been meh. (to me of course, this is all my opinion and I know others can feel differently"

LDXD

#205

LDXD said:

@P-Gamer-C and yet you are constantly on this sight for some odd reason bashing nintendo , so congratulations on being a better "social reject" than the Nintendo fans you despise. Hey maybe one day you can grow up to be just like this guy in the article :)
If you're already grown up then that's a whole other story and I feel bad for you

Senario

#206

Senario said:

@Jellitoe You mean one of the better legend of zelda games. Seriously, skyward sword was a great game. From the fun and immersive gameplay to the story about link and zelda told in a new light. It honestly was good. Unlike say twilight princess which isn't that good but certainly not the worst.

Also, go play Xenoblade cronicles or Pikmin 3.

Mainer82

#207

Mainer82 said:

I'd hate to see Nintendo products move to other platforms. EA just wants to rake in the $.

C-Olimar

#210

C-Olimar said:

Corporates.
sigh
Anyway else remember when it used to be abou the games? Or having fun? Anyone?

LDXD

#211

LDXD said:

@Senario the only problem I had with skyward sword was how liner it was and no sense of exploration also re- used dungeons other than that it was a great game, I really hope the new Zelda is much better and it should be from what I hear

SphericalCrusher

#212

SphericalCrusher said:

Sooo much debate, anger, hatred, and everything else, but the fact is, quality over quantity and you can't compare 3DS game quality to a mobile phone. They are both great, but in their own different ways.

Squashy

#214

Squashy said:

Any suggestion that Miyamoto is losing his touch is nonsense and when I come to power anybody who says such a thing will be forced to play the Zelda CD-i games until they beg for Shigsy's forgiveness!

unrandomsam

#217

unrandomsam said:

Miyamoto would be better compared to Wozniak.

(Done more than enough already - doing what is interesting to them).

Caryslan

#218

Caryslan said:

@unrandomsam Wrong EA CEO on that one. It was Trip Hawkins that was involved with the 3D0, and he has been gone from EA since the early 90's.

Maybe he worked on the 3D0's hardware, but it was Trip Hawkins that created the 3D0

Caryslan

#219

Caryslan said:

You know what is really pathetic about this whole thing? Fifa 14 is on the front page of the 3DS eshop and is a highlighted game. So Nintendo puts a rehashed game into the spotlight for EA and this is how they repay them? By bashing them?

Good job EA. I hope the sales of the "Legacy Edition" of Fifa 14 tank across all platforms. But rather than taking responsibility, they will just blame Nintendo fans for not playing anything besides Mario.

I like a few of their games, but I wish EA would just shut their mouth. Where is their PR Department? Are they all drunk at the job? What company allows themselves to get this kind of press? The CEO and anyone else who wants to talk needs to stay away from a Twitter or Microphone unless the next few words that they put out is an apology to Nintendo fans and gamers in general.

I am so grateful EA never got their grubby hands on the WWE license. I truly feel sorry for anyone who loves UFC. After the way they treat the NFL and Fifa, I fear the worst.

CazTheGamerGuy

#222

CazTheGamerGuy said:

I can never tell if the executives at EA are stupid, trolling or just like poking the bear. Then again, why should they? They've lost all credibility to the gaming public for their recent acts and letting us down with their sub-par output of AAA titles. How's that for irony?

TheXboxHero

#223

TheXboxHero said:

Says the guy that works at EA, one of the most controversial companies in the video game industry :|

unrandomsam

#224

unrandomsam said:

@Caryslan He was involved with mainly sports but also Road Rash so could be that been at EA since 1982. (Not surprising).

This guy :

Dragon Age Legends (2011), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Dante's Inferno (2010), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Boom Blox Bash Party (2009), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Henry Hatsworth in the Puzzling Adventure (2009), Electronic Arts, Inc.
The Lord of the Rings: Conquest (2009), Electronic Arts, Inc.
The Simpsons Game (2007), Electronic Arts, Inc.
The Simpsons Game (2007), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Smarty Pants (2007), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (2002), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Quake III: Revolution (2001), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Road Rash: Jailbreak (2000), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2000 (2000), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Cyber Tiger Woods Golf (1999), Electronic Arts, Inc.
PGA Tour Gold (1998), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Road Rash 3-D (1998), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Tiger Woods 99 PGA Tour Golf (1998), Electronic Arts, Inc.
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Madden NFL 98 (1997), Electronic Arts, Inc.
PGA Tour Pro (1997), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Psychic Detective (1996), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Mario Andretti Racing (1994), Electronic Arts, Inc.
NHL 95 (1994), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger (1994), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Bill Walsh College Football (1993), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Kasparov's Gambit (1993), Electronic Arts, Inc.
The Labyrinth of Time (1993), Electronic Arts, Inc.
NHL '94 (1993), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Tony La Russa Baseball (1993), Electronic Arts, Inc.
John Madden Football '93 (1992), Electronic Arts, Inc.
John Madden Football '93: Championship Edition (1992), Electronic Arts, Inc.
NHLPA Hockey '93 (1992), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Earl Weaver Baseball II (1991), Electronic Arts, Inc.
John Madden Football '92 (1991), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Mario Andretti's Racing Challenge (1991), Electronic Arts, Inc.
NHL Hockey (1991), Electronic Arts, Inc.
John Madden Football (1990), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Trainer 2.0 (1989), Electronic Arts, Inc.
F-16 Combat Pilot (1989), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Ferrari Formula One (1989), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Indianapolis 500: The Simulation (1989), Electronic Arts, Inc.
F/A-18 Interceptor (1988), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Simulator (1987), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Strike Fleet (1987), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Mail Order Monsters (1985), Electronic Arts, Inc.
Racing Destruction Set (1985), Electronic Arts, Inc.

Miyamoto

Bit of War (2012), Holmade Games
Mario Party 9 (2012), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012), Nintendo of America Inc.
Be Good (2011), DigiPen (USA) Corp.
Fortune Street (2011), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart 7 (2011), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Steel Diver (2011), Nintendo of America Inc.
Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP (2011), Capybara Games Inc.
Super Mario 3D Land (2011), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country Returns (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Sports Mix (2010), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (2009), SEGA of America, Inc.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again! (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Punch-Out!! (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Fit Plus (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Sports Resort (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Major League Baseball 2K8: Fantasy All-Stars (2008), 2K Sports
Mario Kart Wii (2008), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Smash Bros.: Brawl (2008), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
This is a Cry for Help (2008),
DK: Jungle Climber (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 8 (2007), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party DS (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (2007), SEGA of America, Inc.
Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Super Mario Galaxy (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Paper Mario (2007), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Fit (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Odama (2006), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Red Steel (2006), Ubisoft Entertainment SA
Star Fox Command (2006), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wii Play (2006), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wii Sports (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Chibi-Robo!: Plug into Adventure! (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
DK: King of Swing (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Electroplankton (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Geist (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Kart DS (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party 7 (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party Advance (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis: Power Tour (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Nintendogs (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox Assault (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Strikers (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Custom Robo (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf: Advance Tour (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 6 (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Pinball Land (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Power Tennis (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2004), Nintendo of America Inc.
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (2004), Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pikmin 2 (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario 64 DS (2004), Nintendo of America Inc.
1080° Avalanche (2003), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
F-Zero GX (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Giftpia (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Hamtaro Rainbow Rescue (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby Air Ride (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Edition (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party 5 (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party-e (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Pokémon Box: Ruby & Sapphire (2003), Pokémon Company, The
Pokémon Channel (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Colosseum (2003), Pokémon Company, The
Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Disney's Magical Quest Starring Mickey & Minnie (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Doshin the Giant (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Four Swords (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time / Master Quest (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 4 (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Metroid Prime (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
NBA Courtside 2002 (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Once Twice Thrice! (2002), Dexterity Software
Pro Rally (2002), Ubi Soft Entertainment Software
Star Fox Adventures (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Sunshine (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Animal Crossing (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite! (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Luigi's Mansion (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart Super Circuit (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pikmin (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Advance (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Smash Bros.: Melee (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wave Race: Blue Storm (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Excitebike 64 (2000), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 3 (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Paper Mario (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Crystal Version (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Stadium 2 (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland (2000), Nintendo of America Inc.
Donkey Kong 64 (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 2 (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Monkey Hero (1999), Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Pokémon Snap (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Stadium (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe (1999), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Smash Bros. (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
1080° Snowboarding (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Esoteria: Techno-Assassin of the Future (1998), Kirin Entertainments Inc.
F-Zero X (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (1998), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox 64 (1997), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Yoshi's Story (1997), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (1996), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby Super Star (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart 64 (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mole Mania (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pilotwings 64 (1996), Playtronic Industrial Ltda.
Pocket Monsters Midori (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Blue Version (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Red Version (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario 64 (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (1996), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (1995), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Donkey Kong Land (1995), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby's Block Ball (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Dream Land 2 (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario's Picross (1995), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario's Super Picross (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong (1994), Nintendo of America Inc.
Donkey Kong Country (1994), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
EarthBound (1994), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Dream Course (1994), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Stunt Race FX (1994), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby's Adventure (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Pinball Land (1993), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario All-Stars (1993), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Super Mario Kart (1992), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wave Race (1992), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (1991), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Tetris 2 + BomBliss (1991), Bullet-Proof Software, Inc.
F-Zero (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pilotwings (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Radar Mission (1990), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario World (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mother (1989), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Yume Kōjō: Dokidoki Panic (1987), Fuji Television Network, Inc., Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (1987), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda (1986), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. 2 (1986), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. (1985), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Devil World (1984), Nintendo Co., Ltd.

globalisateur

#225

globalisateur said:

What I found the most sad about Sticker Star is that the first version of the game was very much a similar game (but not a remake mind you) of the gamecube masterpiece: The Thousand Year Door.

And Miyamoto tested the game and told the developers that it was too similar to this gem.

So they basically remade the whole game and 2 years later we have this empy shell which is Sticker Star.

I mean, Miyamoto, who just produces remakes after remakes or very similar games (new super mario serie, Pikmin 1 & 2 & 3, Zelda a link between world, Zelda Wind Waker WiiU etc.) doesn't allow others to do the same?

WesCash

#226

WesCash said:

I do think that Miyamoto's time has come and gone. He's sort of just become this wacky figurehead that's supposed to remind everyone of Nintendo's good ol' days. Nintendo really needs some new blood if it ever hopes to be considered a serious company again.

Cohort

#227

Cohort said:

It's no secret that EA wanted Origin integrated into the Wii U's OS, there is no strong relationship at all as EA are employing "Dreamcast tactics" on the Wii U.

I find it weird how they keep referring to this gen as 4th gen, when EA started publishing console games on the Megadrive. EA also wanted to publish games on the NES but Nintendo said no as they wanted "more lucrative terms" than everyone else.

@WesCash Obviously you and Richard Hilleman haven't read this article.

Yesrod45

#230

Yesrod45 said:

@PokeTune Pikmin 3, Mario Galaxy 1-2, Nintendogs, Mario Kart DS, New Super Mario Bros. 1,2,Wii, U, and Luigi U, Mario Kart 7, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Wii Sports. Suuurreee

Yesrod45

#231

Yesrod45 said:

@Kyloctopus He has made many mistakes before Nintendogs is a game where pet pets simple and fun not really a mistake every one thinks he should have been perfect like a god, Donkey Kong 3, Zelda 2, other games were his mistakes then I quess : Mario Galaxy, Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros., New Super Mario Bros. 2, New Super Mario Bros Wii, New Super Mario Bros. U, Pikmin 3, Punch Out Wii, Mario Kart DS, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 7, and many but no those mistakes make him way worse

Yesrod45

#232

Yesrod45 said:

@AeroTech Made by Miyamoto: Bit of War (2012), Holmade Games
Mario Party 9 (2012), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012), Nintendo of America Inc.
Be Good (2011), DigiPen (USA) Corp.
Fortune Street (2011), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart 7 (2011), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Steel Diver (2011), Nintendo of America Inc.
Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP (2011), Capybara Games Inc.
Super Mario 3D Land (2011), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country Returns (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Sports Mix (2010), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Galaxy 2 (2010), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (2009), SEGA of America, Inc.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Minis March Again! (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. Wii (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Punch-Out!! (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Fit Plus (2009), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Sports Resort (2009), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Major League Baseball 2K8: Fantasy All-Stars (2008), 2K Sports
Mario Kart Wii (2008), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Smash Bros.: Brawl (2008), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
This is a Cry for Help (2008),
DK: Jungle Climber (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 8 (2007), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party DS (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (2007), SEGA of America, Inc.
Mario Strikers Charged (2007), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Super Mario Galaxy (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Paper Mario (2007), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wii Fit (2007), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
New Super Mario Bros. (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Odama (2006), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Red Steel (2006), Ubisoft Entertainment SA
Star Fox Command (2006), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wii Play (2006), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wii Sports (2006), Nintendo of America Inc.
Chibi-Robo!: Plug into Adventure! (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
DK: King of Swing (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Electroplankton (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Geist (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Kart DS (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party 7 (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party Advance (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis: Power Tour (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Nintendogs (2005), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox Assault (2005), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Strikers (2005), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Custom Robo (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf: Advance Tour (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 6 (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Pinball Land (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Power Tennis (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong (2004), Nintendo of America Inc.
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes (2004), Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pikmin 2 (2004), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario 64 DS (2004), Nintendo of America Inc.
1080° Avalanche (2003), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
F-Zero GX (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Giftpia (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Hamtaro Rainbow Rescue (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby Air Ride (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Collector's Edition (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party 5 (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario Party-e (2003), Nintendo of America Inc.
Pokémon Box: Ruby & Sapphire (2003), Pokémon Company, The
Pokémon Channel (2003), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Colosseum (2003), Pokémon Company, The
Disney's Magical Mirror Starring Mickey Mouse (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Disney's Magical Quest Starring Mickey & Minnie (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Doshin the Giant (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Hamtaro: Ham-Ham Heartbreak (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past/Four Swords (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time / Master Quest (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 4 (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Metroid Prime (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
NBA Courtside 2002 (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Once Twice Thrice! (2002), Dexterity Software
Pro Rally (2002), Ubi Soft Entertainment Software
Star Fox Adventures (2002), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Sunshine (2002), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Animal Crossing (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Hamtaro: Ham-Hams Unite! (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Luigi's Mansion (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart Super Circuit (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pikmin (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Advance (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2 (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Smash Bros.: Melee (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wave Race: Blue Storm (2001), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Excitebike 64 (2000), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 3 (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Tennis (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Paper Mario (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Crystal Version (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Stadium 2 (2000), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland (2000), Nintendo of America Inc.
Donkey Kong 64 (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Golf (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party 2 (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Monkey Hero (1999), Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Pokémon Snap (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Stadium (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe (1999), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Smash Bros. (1999), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
1080° Snowboarding (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Esoteria: Techno-Assassin of the Future (1998), Kirin Entertainments Inc.
F-Zero X (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX (1998), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Party (1998), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox 64 (1997), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Yoshi's Story (1997), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! (1996), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby Super Star (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario Kart 64 (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mole Mania (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pilotwings 64 (1996), Playtronic Industrial Ltda.
Pocket Monsters Midori (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Blue Version (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pokémon Red Version (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario 64 (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (1996), Nintendo of America Inc.
Wave Race 64: Kawasaki Jet Ski (1996), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (1995), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Donkey Kong Land (1995), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby's Block Ball (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Dream Land 2 (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mario's Picross (1995), Nintendo of America Inc.
Mario's Super Picross (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (1995), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Donkey Kong (1994), Nintendo of America Inc.
Donkey Kong Country (1994), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
EarthBound (1994), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Dream Course (1994), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Stunt Race FX (1994), Nintendo of America Inc.
Kirby's Adventure (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Kirby's Pinball Land (1993), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Star Fox (1993), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario All-Stars (1993), Nintendo of Europe GmbH
Super Mario Kart (1992), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Wave Race (1992), Nintendo of America Inc.
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (1991), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Tetris 2 + BomBliss (1991), Bullet-Proof Software, Inc.
F-Zero (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Pilotwings (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Radar Mission (1990), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario World (1990), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Mother (1989), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. 2 (1988), Nintendo of America Inc.
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Yume Kōjō: Dokidoki Panic (1987), Fuji Television Network, Inc., Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link (1987), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
The Legend of Zelda (1986), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. 2 (1986), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Super Mario Bros. (1985), Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Devil World (1984), Nintendo Co., Ltd.

NavySpheal

#233

NavySpheal said:

@Yesrod45 Never said I lost all respect for him. Just some. He just makes bad decisions occasionally IMO. And nice job wasting time with that list, didn't prove crap to me :)

DreMurf313

#234

DreMurf313 said:

@galetyler
Agreed!! Exactly how can you compare cell phone games to full wide scale on the 3DS? Apple is known for downloadable quick-hit apps. (like Tetris, Candy Crush Saga, Bejeweled, UNO, Plants vs Zombies, etc...) The entire library cost between .99 cents to $9.99.

They're quick, easy, & fun to play. But they aren't popular to the point where Nintendo is being phased out!

Yesrod45

#235

Yesrod45 said:

I took 5 seconds to look that up, 3 seconds to and paste it, 4 to 14 type the word on the top and post, so no time wasted and I don't see anywhere saying you lost all respect for him thanks for responding to troll comment TTTRRRROOOLLLLLL!!!

BlackStar9000

#236

BlackStar9000 said:

@Red302 the I freaking loved sticker star just like super paper mario, if you go into new games in a series with an open mind and no base them soley on past titles you can really enjoy yourself, if sticker start was a kirby based rpg or a new ip then w bet ppl would see it differently, just like zelda 2

BlackStar9000

#237

BlackStar9000 said:

@DreMurf313 ain't it funny how he gave zero credit the 3DS or nintendo handhelds in general? I have a 2 boys 5 and 7 yrs old,
i have a ipod and ipad 3 and a Kindle fire hd and pretty much all game systems including a gaming pc, guess what my boys ask to play the most? At home its the Wii U and on the road its a fight over my 3ds, i cant wait to buy them both 2ds systems, that was a great move on nintendos part cause they can't take care of clamshell handhelds

DreMurf313

#238

DreMurf313 said:

Like my Dad used to tell me as a kid. "Always remember the ones who put in the work in the beginning". "Without them, where would we be?" & it seems (to me) many of our generation is ignoring the tradition & opting for quick-hit-apps along with graphically enhanced FPS & 3rd-PS.

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