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E3 2014: Code Name: S.T.E.A.M., A Brand New IP, Unveiled for 3DS

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

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Nintendo's eagerly anticipated developer session for a previously unannounced 3DS title has taken place, and it revealed a brand new IP. It's Code Name: S.T.E.A.M, a title that originally emerged through a U.S. trademark in early April. In that filing it had the full title Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. Strike Team Eliminating the Alien Menace.

Nintendo's Hitoshi Yamagami spoke first and described the gameplay of the project as a "turn-based strategy game with lots of unique elements from action games". In exciting news, and perhaps inevitable considering the genre, Intelligent Systems is confirmed to be developing the title. In typical style for the studio the campaign sounds like it could be extensive — it'll be split into missions, each with "several maps".

The event began with an opening movie showing a 3D steam-era London, which our writer at the event has described as sporting a beautiful "comicbook aesthetic" — character design is inspired by American comic books, artists like Jack Kirby and Bruce Timm, while there's an animal motif to weapon design and characters. Alien designs, meanwhile, are original yet "riff on creatures from the Lovecraft mythos". In the audio department Yoshito Hirano — best known for his work in the Advance Wars series — is producing the soundtrack; it's a mix of 19th Century strings and rock music, which reportedly sounds terrific.

Back to gameplay, an over-the-shoulder third-person viewpoint will be utilised to draw you in closer to the action, as opposed to the abstraction of mini-map-style strategy; action elements from shooters will be utilised for movement and attacking. Touch screen controls will be integral to the experience. In addition, in the absence of a mini-map the emphasis will be on exploring with multiple characters in order to get an overview of the battlefield. Movement and attack options will be driven by a limited supply of steam — each character wears a backpack boiler that needs to be used carefully; these boilers, weapons and characters will level-up with progress through the game. Every character will be able to equip a second "sub-weapon", while each will also have a Special Ability that can be used once per map — our writer has described the latter as "fantastically over-the-top" in action.

One peculiar detail is in the apparent inclusion of multiplayer, though our reporter in the event admits to quizzical looks as it was said that there's "not going to be online play but there'll be multiplayer, which is online." This may suggest a form of asynchronous or delayed form of communication, such as moves submitted but not interacting and engaging in real time. It may just be a concept lost in translation, but it seems clear that online play will be available in some form — details were not given but are promised for the future.

This title is due in 2015.

Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. will be extensively shown to the public in the final day of the Nintendo Treehouse live broadcast, which we will host and live blog right here on Nintendo Life.

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Haxonberik said:

Why keep this and Pac Man for private roundtables? The Digital Event was short enough to reveal them there! This sounds awesome, I'll definitely be waiting to see it tomorrow



umegames said:

mmmhh, a new IP from "Intelligent Systems" is great, I really like their work, but man i REALLY wanted a new advance wars from them.

If you liked Fire emblem and any of the advance wars games you SHOULD be excited for this.



Xjarnold said:

Wow, that sounds really promising, can't wait for more details. Nintendo is killing at E3



BertoFlyingFox said:

Oh...okay. An SRPG in a comic book style, weird that we have to wait til tomorrow to see it but there it is. Will check out the gameplay tomorrow.



smileyface97 said:

@Haxonberik I think the idea behind revealing things like this is to keep the information flowing all throughout E3. So with that in mind, lets hope to see more over the rest of E3.



ikki5 said:

Turn based strategy are not usually for me. I'll watch trailers and read reviews when it comes out but I don't expect I'll be picking this us.



mostro328 said:

cool, I agree pacman and this would've made the digital event even bigger and better...still happy been an awesome e3



smileyface97 said:

Third person combat elements... As a PC gamer I can't help but think of the new X-Coms cinematic camera.
Edit: the more I here the more it sounds like X-com/Valkyria Chronicles.



LadyCeles said:

Why would they do that..? All those Majora's Mask teases... my heart is totally broken now... I'll take a look on this new one, anyways...



whanvee said:

what happened to shin x fire emblem?? I really hope it didn't get quietly cancelled. Considering Intelligent systems is behind this and they also develop Fire Emblem, it might have gotten the axe. I was really hoping to get some details from that game this week. Oh well guess I will wait a year more.



nesvc said:

What a disappointment. I was hoping for Majora's Mask and zelda 3ds xl.



SkywardLink98 said:

I missed the event tonight (I think) did we see any gameplay footage, or anything relevant to the 3DS?



smileyface97 said:

To all the people calling this a disappointment because it's not Majora's Mask. First: hold your horses, the way nintendo is doing E3 could bring anything later on. Second: This is a NEW Nintendo IP... Just think about that.



Klunk23 said:

Aww yeah! Fantastic. Intelligent Systems makes some great games. Plus this is for 3ds and so far the 3ds and intelligent systems have been a match made in heaven.



Xjarnold said:

@Aslanmagic It sounds like a lot of people did, but E3 isn't over and Nintendo's surprised us before -See Wii u confusion- however I feel like a new IP if done correctly and not left for dead (f-zero) will be good for the big N.



CaPPa said:

Disappointment because it's not a port? Are you guys crazy?

Miyamoto + Intelligent Systems + steampunk RPG = all kinds of awesomeness.



AVahne said:

Gameplay sounds like it will be similar to Valkyria Chronicles. Can't wait to see it.



Adam said:

There is in fact craziness afoot. This sounds great. Yay, original stuff.



MixMasterMudkip said:

It's a Hitoshi Yamagami game, not a Miyamoto game. There was some confusion with it, but it's been confirmed who's leading the project now.



FluttershyGuy said:

Not quite the alien-related 3DS game I was hoping for. Looks like we'll have to wait until E3 2015, or a Nintendo Direct, for a new Metroid. So, its drought is going to expand to 4 years since Other M, and 10 years since a main handheld installment, Zero Mission (I know there's Prime Hunters, but...). Plus, no Ridley Smash announcement. That, and another series in Star Fox ending its drought kind of makes Metroid fans one of the big E3 losers. I'll see how this game develops before committing. I'm just absorbing the disappointment, like Majora's Mask fans.

There's a lot else I'm excited for, including aforementioned Star Fox, but poor Samus & poor fans of her's. :/



Jayvir said:

I see all of these mentions of Miyamoto IP, but yet during this roundtable, there was not a single mention of Miyamoto. The creative director and everything was announced to NOT be Miyamoto. I don't even think Miyamoto was there. Don't you think he'd be present to show off his own game?



dereq said:

Hope this makes it to completion. Makes me think of Project H.A.M.M.E.R. which I believe was announced for Wii but was canceled. Acronym jinx? XD.



sinalefa said:

I want to see the actual game tomorrow, but so far it sounds great. Nice to see more new IPs, let's hope people who beg for them night and day actually support them.

Because I know I will



JaxonH said:


Project Guard
Project Giant Robot

FOUR new IP's, not to mention new takes on old franchises, like Captain Toad and Mario Maker



AdmiralThrawn said:

Inconceivable. I would like to know who asked for this type of game prior to the announcement. Nobody did. In my opinion I pray that this game fails. So much for Metroid and Majora. I blame this on stupid Splatoon.



ricklongo said:

Two new IPs at once? That's what I'm talking about.

Very, very excited about this, especially with Intelligent Systems' involvement.

I hope Nintendo keeps the trend of introducing major new IPs more often than they have in the past (like, one or two every year). It will be great to keep seeing new faces gracing their games.

@JaxonH I imagine the gamepad-centric games will be more like minigames inside a single title, like Nintendo Land, rather than honest-to-goodness new IPs.



smileyface97 said:

@JaxonH You are right (though I see those two as more likely being part of a mini game collection). I guess what I meant was games that could spawn a franchise.



Stubborn_Monkey said:

This being Intelligent Systems, first thing that comes to mind is Advance Wars and Fire Emblem, but the emphasis on Third-Person Action makes the game sound closer to Batallion Wars.

Modelled after American super-hero comics with a retrofuturistic setting? Sounds very interesting, but I'll wait until I see it in action.



JaxonH said:


Who ASKED for it? EVERYONE asked for it! All year long, all I heard was "Nintendo needs to stop with the remakes and give us a new IP" Now you're complaining about the new IP because you didn't get a REMAKE? Lol, hahahahaha that's rich. And a TON of people like Fire Emblem and Advance Wars, and adore Intelligent Systems. Not for you? That's fine. But stop acting like making this game is some reprehensible action against you. Buy the games you want, ignore the ones you don't want. And keep in mind, this isn't the Olive Garden. Nintendo isn't waiting tables taking orders. They make the games THEY want to make. They've been doing it a long time, and it's not their job to take requests, it's their job to make fun games and let us discover the fun.

We got a new Star Fox, Bayonetta 1, Devil's Third, STEAM, Project Guard, Project Giant Robot, a new Zelda, a new Mario Party, a new Yoshi game, a new Kirby game, a new Mario Level Editor, a new Mario vs DK, a new Final Fantasy, Captain Toad, Splatoon... and you're complaining?

We have FIVE more years, we'll get a Metroid. You ain't gonna see a new Metroid AND a new Star Fox AND a new Zelda AND four new IPs all in one E3. My goodness, what do you think they'd announce next year, or the year after, or the year after that? NOTHING, cause they would have announced it all at E3 2014. Besides, Star Fox was asked for WAY more than Metroid, and guess what? We got it.



mamp said:

Japan's version of Americans. I can't wait to see it. They probably think Americans consider Abraham Lincoln the closest thing to God LMAO. In all seriousness though it sounds cool let's just hope it is, not too worried though it is intelligent systems.



MAN1AC said:

Its disturbing how many of you want to just play the same games over and over instead of a new IP.

I'm excited to see what this is.



KryptoKrunch said:

So when Nintendo announces a sequel to an existing franchise they need to start making new IPs. When they announce a new IP, no one asked for it and they need to make a sequel to an existing franchise. facepalm

Intelligent Systems is an awesome developer, this should be good.



Einherjar said:

This sort of "semi real time online play" sounds a bit like true chess aproach, meaning that you arent bound to a single, dedicated online match, but rather take your turns and send those over to a friend, who can then react whenever he got the time.

@MAN1AC Well, just look at the top selling games of the last couple of years and tell me, that the obsession with CoD, Battlefield, Fifa and AC is less disturbing than wanting nintendo to make actually different games with known settings.
I described it like that: Picture a game of monopoly. Other devs take the same rules and just change the board and pieces. Nintendo alsways keeps the same board and pieces, but changes the rules.
I definitly prefer the latter. Familiar look and feel, but completely different experiences.



JaxonH said:

Developer just stated that not ONLY is SMT x Fire Emblem currently on schedule, but furthermore, STEAM is not impacting their plans for the next Advance Wars/Fire Emblem entry



brandonbwii said:

My god, why is everybody begging for the SAME old thing. Don't you guys realize this is a good thing. Good, but I prefer Majora. Good, but I prefer advanced wars.

We don't even know what the game looks like yet.



CapeSmash said:

@AdmiralThrawn You hope that the game fails because it isn't Zelda or Metroid? NICE!

>People ask Nintendo to make new IPs
>They do
>People get upset that they're making new IPs, and complain that they aren't rehashing their old franchises

Beautiful. Just... beautiful.



BoobooMama said:

Fire Emblem: Awakening was the first strategy game that I actually got into, so if it's by the same developer I may have to give this a go.



Hero-of-WiiU said:

2015? Eh, understandable. 2015 lookin great. NintendoLife I wouldn't mind an article that covers the release dates and frames for all the big new games shown off.



ricklongo said:

@mamp Las time they did "Japan's version of Americans", we got Earthbound. Which means that yes, we should all be excited.



BenAV said:

I honestly don't understand why everyone wants a Majora's Mask remake so badly... I'm sure most people have played the game already.
Ocarina of Time 3D was great because it filled a bit of the gap when the 3DS had almost no games, but now there's tons of awesome games available so there's not really any need to port/remake old games.

New IPs on the other hand are great news, and this looks pretty cool and interesting.
Can't wait to see them show it off tomorrow.



IceClimbers said:

Really people, you're complaining that we didn't get Majora's Mask 3D - a remake - over a brand new IP?!

Hey, we got a new IP for 3DS and a new IP for Wii U (not counting Project Giant Robot and Project Guard) ON TOP of Smash Bros, a new Star Fox, a new Zelda, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2 + Bayonetta 1, Pokemon ORAS, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Devil's Third, a new Yoshi game, a new Kirby game, Captain Toad Treasure Tracker (which could become its own series), Mario Maker, among several others.

If you aren't impressed with Nintendo for this E3, then you are impossible to please.



Spectator said:

Images are giving off an Xcom vibe, that is not a bad thing.
This sound like it could be quite fun.



Ashflow said:

I still want MM3D really badly (although I didn't/don't really expect it), but this sounds pretty dang cool.



LoveSugoi said:

This game on paper sounds like one of the best things ever. Definitely will be tuning in tomorrow to see what the fuss is about.



KingCreezy said:

I for one, am very excited for this. I can't understand people getting upset that this wasn't MM3D. I will always take a new ip over a remake/hd upgrade. We've already got/will get
Zelda OOT3d
Zelda ALBW

Wii U
Zelda Wind Waker Hd
Hyrule Warriors
Zelda U
Plus all the Zelda games on the virtual console. Showing Majoras Mask over this would've been a huge let down and a waste imo.



IceClimbers said:

So Nintendo's games at E3 2014 (so far in case of any more surprises):

Smash Bros 3DS/Wii U
Zelda U
Star Fox U
Hyrule Warriors
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Bayonetta 2
Bayonetta 1
Captain Toad Treasure Tracker
Yoshi's Woolly World
Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
Mario Maker
Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric
Sonic Boom Shattered Crystal
Devil's Third
Mario Party 10
CodeName STEAM
Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire
Pokemon Art Academy
Art Academy (Wii U)
Mario vs Donkey Kong (Wii U)
Fantasy Life
Theatrhythm Final Fantasy Curtain Call
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Trilogy
Fossil Fighters Frontier
Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth

Yeah, that's a TON of games, and their ALL EXCLUSIVE, except for Bayonetta 1, which has exclusive content.



faint said:

You guys just can't be happy can you? Here we have a new ip that's super stylish and looks to be awesome and all you can do is complain about not getting a remake of a game I played ten years ago. A game the was and is still for sale in the wii shop. I'm disgusted.



Action51 said:

I read the article and get very excited, then start to read the comment section and get exasperated.

It's not advance wars's A NEW IP!!!!

Come one Nintendo fans, please stop dooming us with this attitude. I love advance wars probably more then most of you, but I don't mind waiting a while longer and trying something new.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love a new Advance Wars, but I am happy to see Intelligent systems working on a new project and giving us the chance to fall in love all over again with a new game series. Advance Wars was new at one point too, remember?

Anyway, screw Zelda Majora's Mask remake...I'm tired or remakes. We're deep into the 3DS life cycle and the Wii U is now establishing itself...let's lay off the remakes and let this generation of hardware breathe...please!?



Action51 said:

If you guys really want to know what this games looks like, there is a series of wonderful real-time-strategy squad based games called "Freedom Force" and "Freedom Force Vs the Third Reich" that released for PC about 8-10 years ago by Irrational games. They were steeped in silver and golden age comic book fun with over the top spoofs and ersatz versions of comic book mainstays.

Here's some images:



Iggly said:

Is this gonna be like the Wonderful 101 where a lot of people were asking for something new, but in the end people end up buying the same games like Wind Waker HD over the Wonderful 101?



BlatantlyHeroic said:

I'm upset about this. Yes I wanted a Majora's Mask remake, but I'd be able to get past that for a new IP if, IF, it had an open world to explore AND combat that isn't turn based. I hate turn based combat with a passion and would rather have real time. If it wasn't for that, yeah I'd be pretty stoked, but I can't see past that issue. Sorry S.T.E.A.M., you're just not my type of game.



Heiki said:

I was actually excited... Until I saw those screenshots. Urgh!

Intelligent Systems should be working on something else. I really love their games, but this one really turns me off. I guess I will wait for gameplay footage, though.



Tony_342 said:

A third-person, turn-based strategy game developed by Intelligent Systems where you play as an elite strike force assembled by Abraham Lincoln to fight against Lovecraftian monster aliens with Bear Grenades and Lion Launchers in a steampunk-inspired 19th century London?

Yeah. I'll take one of those, please.



jjmesa16 said:

I think I'll hold off on this one. The art style just isn't very appealing to me and I think that it would have looked better on the Wii U. What is the genre of this game anyway? It looks like a 3rd person shooter, but the article mentions it's a strategy, and it's turn-based. Just too much going on.

I would have rather had a sequel to a current Nintendo IP. I never asked for a new IP and I have been pretty happy with current Nintendo games. Splatoon was good enough for me.



FilmerNgameR said:

PLOT TWIST! MM will be an HD remake for Wii U! btw S.T.E.A.M. looks pretty cool I mean seriously, it's a new IP for crying out loud and it looks awesome!



XFsWorld said:

"and all you can do is complain about not getting a remake of a game I played ten years ago" -whoa lets not be selfish now l. Others would like a chance to play Majoras Mask. Some may not have a Wii (like me) to be able to play it. I'm glad that a remake wasn't the surprise though.
I'm disgusted if it's a RPG.



Action51 said:

This thread = why we can't have nice things!

I'm so disappoint in my fellow Nintendo gamers whining because they can't have another remake when there is a new IP with some interesting concepts being delivered to them by an amazing developer.

Ugh, maybe another 'Animal Crossing' retread or 'New Super Mario Bros.' entry to shut you up until they can remake your precious Zelda game...then you can start whining about the next game you want remade while ignoring new IPs...

Severe disappoint...



Bassman_Q said:

Excited because it looks lIke a steampunk game.

The world needs more epic steampunk games.



ManateeBlubber said:

@KodyWB-98 Dat box art though...
But seriously, this has me hyped. Gameplay footage would be nice, but considering this is about a team assembled by Abraham Lincoln that fights aliens, I am still hyped considering I loved Advance Wars.



Ralphi said:

Nintendo has some of the best game minds in the industry, it's really exciting to see them working on so many things that are entirely new.

Also, it looks interesting, I really want to see game play.



IceClimbers said:

@Action51 While also complaining that Nintendo doesn't make new IPs. I'm with you, I'm disappointed in my fellow Nintendo fans. This looks really cool too.

@Tony_342 Don't forget an Eagle Rifle. Oh, and one of the playable characters in the strike team is a freaking lion called Lion. This sounds freaking awesome.



Spakiness said:

I'm not gonna lie. I find this game rather underwhelming. Though I guarantee it will grab an audience somewhere or another.



Windy said:

Bummer. Oh well Fantasy Life is on its way and that's all I wanted to hear from the show. I watched XBox1 opening press conference today and was just blown away. Yesterday I thought Nintendo had a great showing but Xbox had blown away Nintendo with a huge list of impressive titles 70% of them very violent. Nonetheless they were impressive with all the online multiplayer and open world games coming their way. I'm almost jealous. I will probably never get an XboxOne but its pretty tempting for an old guy like me



0utburst said:

This game is being made by Intelligent Systems? You 3DS peasants and half bloods (3ds+WiiU) are lucky and should get excited!
-Wii U Master Race
(I kid, I kid. )
Seriously I was hoping StrikeTEAM would be on the Wii U. Since I have yet to buy a 3DS, this might be a game that will make me buy one besides a 2D Metroid.



Melkac said:

Not...a huge fan of the art style. Would've looked better as a Wiii U game
What is with IS not caring about the Wii U at all?



TheWPCTraveler said:

I'm interested in this, largely because I have a soft spot for SRPGs.

I can't help but think, though, that this should've been on the Wii U. I mean, I think Advance Wars is a better fit for portable, whereas this could use the graphical fidelity that the Wii U provides. (Since this doesn't feature a map, after all.)

Still, I'm hoping for this to lead to a new Advance Wars (or a remake collection of the GBA games and Dual Strike.)



Shambo said:

@CainTrain I still say they'll announce it at the end of day 3. No better time to announce MM3D than in the last half of the 72nd hour! They've been teasing quite a lot, and Nintendo won't finish without an explosion!

Curious about this one though!



Samus06 said:

This game sounds pretty awesome. I just hope that SMTxFE is still coming along. I can't wait to see more of this game tomorrow!



kobashi100 said:

E3 really disappointing for 3DS.

hardly any new software.. Dunno where nintendo are going with the console this year.



DreamOn said:

I think a lot of people will change thier minds about this one looking underwhelming once it's seen in action



TheAdza said:

I hope it turns out good. Maybe there will be some amiibo compatibility to make it a bit more interesting to me.



CaptOlimar30 said:

As many people have beat me to point out, it looks a good amount like Valkyria Chronicles so I couldn't be more excited. I'll have to acclimate to the art-style but the gameplay and concept sound extremely promising.



Romeo said:

sounds awesome, but it looks absolutely terrible
was hoping for Majora's Mask 3D or a new Metroid

pretty disappointed.. i don't understand why they had to make such a big deal about this game and give it it's own press conference instead of just announcing it in the Digital Event or whatever



RedYoshi999 said:

I haven't been asking for a new IP. Nintendo has enough already that they don't need to make more. The problem I have with their new IPs is they lack the charm of established IPs and usually go for a genre I don't like. It's near impossible for them to create something as good and successful as Mario or Zelda. So yes, I would have preferred a Majora's Mask remake, because its not a crime to want to play my favourite game that's aging badly with a modern twist. I don't hate what they're doing though, it just isn't for me.



Romeo said:

i don't mind new IP's at all..
i love Nintendo's IP's, but it's fine if they want to try new stuff from time to time, but i definitely don't like the new direction in which they're heading

Shigeru Miyamoto working on 3 projects.... one of them is a Robot game that looks meh.. and the other is a security camera game....
love Shigeru Miyamoto but his talent is wasted on stuff like that

and now this game?

Nintendo definitely won E3, but not happy with these three games.



AshFoxX said:

Coming 2015. A.K.A, The year of empty pockets. More than half of Nintendo's reveals in the past two days I am very interested in playing. They need to stop before my wife throws me out



whodatninja said:

There 3DS owners, you got an all new awesome looking IP! (i'm envious it's not for Wii U)




firebird3334 said:

I knew it from the start, I made the prediction that steam is the 90 min presentation from nintendo, check my profile if you don't believe me (click my name)



cfgk24 said:

I thought the new Nintendo IP was going to be called 'KICKASS E3' with plans to release a new update every June!



cfgk24 said:

I thought the new Nintendo IP was going to be called 'KICKASS E3' with plans to release a new update every June!



Morph said:

There are some proper idiots in this thread, its a new game and imo looks quite good. No ones going to be forced to buy it so whats the problem. Is it any wonder some perceive gamers and particularly nintendo ones as childish. I'm sure everyone will get the games they want over the next couple of years, you cant announce everything all in one go



Peach64 said:

I was hoping for Advanced Wars... but that's even better Love SRPGs and love the comic book look.



Mqblank said:

@justlink Hmmm, ability to play game (albeit a classic) that I can already play or a brand new game from a brand by IP from Nintendo and Intelligent Systems. The choice is clear! I do want Majora's, and it will eventually turn up, but for now this is great news.



Mqblank said:

@Morph Yeah, all these people complaining that its not Majora or Metroid or F-Zero etc don't really know Nintendo that well. They very rarely do what people expect. Just like before the presentation, Starfox leaked and everyone thought it was going to be a major part of the show ... and then wasn't even on it! I think a person above said it best :-
NintendoFan "Where are the new IP's?"
Nintendo "Here is a new IP"
NintendoFan "Where is remake of old game?"



Jazzer94 said:

New Nintendo IP announced a bunch of people start complaining they wanted remake/port "A", I see nothing has changed but I'm interested in this and not disappointed in the fact we got something new instead of something old.



electrolite77 said:

A brand new IP led by Miyamoto and developed by Intelligent Systems? And people are complaining a remake wasn't announced instead?

Honestly, some Nintendo fans really depress me sometimes (shakes head)



Kirk said:

If this had simply been shown alongside the other titles in Nintendo's "Digital Event" I would have no problem here BUT...

I simply do not understand why Nintendo held this back for some kind of special reveal. It was just setting itself up for disappointment unless it was going to reveal some brand new game in one of it's truly beloved and classic long running franchises or a new game franchise that was so awesome (cutting edge/revolutionary/genre defining/paradigm shifting/visually stunning/spectacular/original) and compelling that it would basically blow everyone away. This game is nothing like any of those things. It's just another action strategy game that's probably even a bit of a niche title.

If Nintendo actually believes that this and Splatoon are it's big new IPs of this generation then it REALLY has lost touch with what most gamers want and what is considered impressive and truly compelling in this day and age.

I am so disappointed with every single new game franchise Nintendo has shown this year, including all of Miyamoto's games based on what I have seen, and if this is what Nintendo thinks is going to make it competitive going forward and attract or appease anyone outside of loyal FANS then it really is clueless at this point imo.

I'm not saying any of theses games won't be fun in their own rights, they could even be lots of fun, but these are the kinds of filler games you have propping up a bunch a big AAA system selling titles. These games can't actually be your big new titles.

Nintendo has probably the best collection of beloved IPs and compelling characters in the industry but because it basically has no third party support any new games it reveals really need to fill in and make up for all the MASSIVE AAA third party titles it simply isn't getting and if ANYONE actually believes the selection of new games Nintendo has shown are going to fill that void then they are living in cloud kuckkoo land.

Just ONE of the MANY AAA third party games coming to the other systems, The Witcher 3, pisses all over all of Nintendo's NEW game reveals combined (note, I'm talking about the brand new titles only, not the likes of the next Zelda on Wii U), in terms of what these games NEED to achieve for the system, and ironically I personally haven't even played any of the previous Witcher games or really given them a second thought in the past BUT I know a system selling, truly compelling and truly current-gen AAA, upcoming award winning, masterpiece of a game when I see one.

What Nintendo needs is new games that are destined to become the next Zeldas, Metroids, Marios, Mario Karts, Smash Bros, Pokemons...and if we're all being honest with ourselves here...It's VERY unlikely to be any of the new games it revealed this week.

Surely; anyone with ANY objectivity can see this.



rbmoura85 said:

This and Splatoon may not be what we really wanted in terms of new ips from nintendo, but the truth is that we cant really say anymore that nintendo doesnt reveal new ips with new characters.



rbmoura85 said:

@Kirk i understand your disapointment, but i dont think thats all they are has been sugested that miyamoto is working on a new ip with retro studios. I think this is all they wanted to show us right now...but about splatoon, if you havent, i totally sugest you to watch some of those treehouse shows, because that game really starts to get in your head after a while



Kirk said:


Splatoon is the equivalent of De Blob imo...

A quirky gimmicky game, that looks like some casual-centric THQ ''action" title, that a small selection of people will fully enjoy but that most people won't even look twice at and will basically never be talked about again a few weeks/months after it releases.

I do not see this game having any significant or long term positive impact on the current Wii U situation in the slightest and it most certainly hasn't excited me in the slightest.

Splatoon is a throwaway filler title as far as I'm concerned, regardless of how much fun it is to actually play, and that is not what Nintendo is in REAL need of right now imo.



Emblem said:

@Kirk I think you are out of touch with Nintendo not the other way around, take a good look at everything Nintendo has done in the last ten years (or even longer). They are catering for those who love Nintendo for being Nintendo they don't care about "most gamers", they have realized the PC,Sony & MS loyalists will either have Nintendo machines as a second console or not at all.

To that end they are creating games/experiences you can't find elsewhere and not replicating popular games. They are going for their niche and expanding when and where it suits them into new area's.

You need to look at what they are actually doing and decide if its for you. If not you need to move on and stop clinging to false hopes of what you want Nintendo to be.

For me i love each company/platforms for their own strengths, MS is for big budget western titles, Sony for big budget Japanese titles and no region lock for Japanese titles that never make it west. Nintendo is for creative, imaginative and straight up fun Japanese titles. And well my PC is for wrpgs, RTS,TBS and god sims etc.



TreesenHauser said:

I like it! I'm glad Nintendo's exploring new territory with this, instead of remaking another Zelda game.



Kirk said:


No, the problem is that I'm perfectly in touch with Nintendo and that's why I can see that Nintendo is perfectly out of touch with basically everyone else (that "everyone else" is of course a broad generalization).

The FANS might think that is the right approach [direction] and might even genuinely be happy with it but the sales numbers, the generally negative press, the general unrest among the shareholders and loss of trust among financial analysts, the general air of disappointment or disinterest surrounding the company these days (even among all those casuals that lapped up the Wii last gen), all speak for themselves.

It's not quite as simple as a company like Nintendo just deciding it wants to go off in it's own new direction and we all either have to accept it the way it is or move on.



Mega719 said:

Nice it sounded like a shooter at first but instead it's turn based RPG what a twist. I feel Nintendo has enough of these good thing it hss different elements



FragRed said:

@Kirk I don't think Nintendo is going to win over the people who buy Playstation or Xbox ever regardless of what approach they take to game development. Look what happened when they announced Bayonetta 2 was a Wii U exclusive, it really upset a huge number of those who bought the first game, and I get the impression they won't be buying a Wii U anytime soon judging from what many have said.



Emblem said:

@Action51 One of the best games ever!!! I'm so upset i lost all my UMC on my old PC for both Freedom Forces .
The community for this game was amazing, X-men, transformers, thundercats, Matrix... you name it someone made models, skins, missions, arenas and special effects and you could import them into the awesome mechanics and settings in this game. The story and characters were also very well made, the devs decided to do City of heroes/villians instead of another sequel though unfortunatly.

Freedom Force X Valkria Chronicles made buy Miya & Intelligent Systems sounds like it will be awesome to me.



nesvc said:

We will see how this sales compared to ocarina of time and link between worlds. I already know that answer.



daniruy said:

Never been such a fun of the Fire Emblem genre... I'll probably skip this one, but people seem to have liked it.



Kirk said:


In terms of purely the games for now, because I think there's a lot more that needs to be addressed here to fix the whole Wii U situation than just the games, I think Nintendo could actually win over a lot of those people that aren't currently interested in the Wii U IF it simply created a couple of brand new genuine AAA killer titles with the same kind of basically universal impact and appeal that first party games/franchises like Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Pokemon achieved across the entire gaming community when they were created, alongside new PROPER FULL titles from all their other big beloved franchises.

None of the first party filler crap would be needed then imo.

So, to clarify/reiterate; A new PROPER FULL release from each/all of it's big franchises (unlike the new Star Fox game for example, which does not fulfill that criteria at all imo based on what I've read) along with a couple of totally BRAND NEW franchises that are so genuinely impressive and compelling that they have the same kind of impact and mass appeal that the Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, Smash Bros and Pokemon franchise had in their day and mostly still do (unlike Platoon), or that the likes of The Witcher 3, Titanfall, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4, GTA V, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Tom Clancy's The Division, Batman: Arkham Knight, Assassin's Creed Unity etc on the other systems have now...and Nintendo would imo absolutely win a huge bunch of those people over (solely in terms of games) without any doubt in my mind whatsoever.



FragRed said:

@Kirk Well for that to happen, I think Mr Iwata will have to be replaced (which is looking likely anyway) because I don't think he sees that as the future. But then, who ever replaces him as head of Nintendo would need such a radical change in thinking I don't personally see it happening.



Kirk said:


Neither do I; which is why I remain so very very frustrated and consistently disappointed and left wanting with Nintendo as of late.

If it did happen however, along with a few other non-game specific things that also need addressed imo, I think all these complaints and the general sense of negatively towards Nintendo across basically the entire industry would pretty much disappear.

You'd still have fanboys fighting their wars and stuff of course but that's a whole other thing.

Nintendo could actually basically fully deliver what the vast majority of people want and expect imo and that's all I ever really ask/expect of it and continue to hope for...



FragRed said:

@Kirk Well Nintendo always have the next system they said they'll be revealing in 2 or 3 years time to address these issues but like the Dreamcast was for Sega, it would be their last attempt to get back in the game.

And on that note I hope they don't under power it, it needs to be more powerful than the Xbox One an PS4 I feel to have a chance since it will be joining them 4 years late. But thats just my opinion. And wishful thinking.



rbmoura85 said:


If it has a ton of mechanics that we dont know about and crazy stages, it could be as fun as mario kart. Plus, theres the possibility of a single player mode. I think we will have to wait and see the rest of the game.

But i certainly wish they woul make more mature games in modern genres like sandbox, fps, irritates me that they are so reluctant to do those things.



DarkCoolEdge said:

Promising but very ugly game. I don't like the artwork but the graphics quality is even worse I hope they improve them a lot.



dumedum said:

I am so happy. Looks like a "sequel" to ghost recon shadow wars my favorite 3ds game.



KingCreezy said:

We know very little other than some screens and a brief description of the type of game and yet people are shooting this down already. Did I seriously read in the comments that xbox1 had a great showing because 70% of the games shown were violent?? That's what's wrong in gaming as well as the whole Nintendo needs stronger hardware. We have Bayonetta and Devils Third coming that are violent if that's your thing. They look great and thankfully we dont have a saturation of the genre on the Wii U. If all you're interested in is violence,fps, and sand box games then go get the other systems.That's not what Nintendo does nor has it ever done.

As far as Nintendo changing peoples impression of them and their products, its not that simple obviously. With that being said I've seen tons of Nintendo bashers change their tune the last couple of days. Some say they want Nintendo to just unveil a new franchise that's gonna be as big as Mario, Zelda, pokemon etc. How is anybody supposed to know that a franchise is just gonna blow up like that. Those franchises are a staple in society because of how long they've been around and/or the immediate impact they had after the video game crash. Nobody had seen anything like them before and to expect that same kind of impact from anything(especially overnight) is foolish.



TheRealThanos said:

@Kirk I understand your disappointment to a degree, but most official media seem to respond to Nintendo's E3 presence with a positive reaction, so maybe the games on show aren't for everyone but apparently they did rather well, although they should have shown footage of Star Fox U and could have shown a bit more of the new Zelda, but those are just minor gripes.
I do not agree with you comparing Splatoon with De Blob, just because it has ink in it, a paint refill meter and you have to color your surroundings to win. First off, in De Blob it was almost every color under the rainbow and it wasn't team based or a shooter, and the squid transformation, HUGELY transforming the gameplay mechanics is also nowhere to be found in any similar form in De Blob. So basically all that is similar is having to use paint, having to refill and having to paint the majority of your level to win. Everything else is different.



LittleIrves said:

Huh. This definitely has the feel of a 'Game that Americans Should Like' what with the steampunk + lovecraft + Honest Abe thing. Personally I'm not into those first two things as much as some, but the idea of a new kind of game from Intelligent Systems excites me WAAAY more than if they'd announced a remake.

And all y'all shrugging over the screenshots: You should know better that 3DS screens always look horrible. Link Between Worlds looked underwhelming too, but the game's beautiful. We'll see what happens. Quite an interesting week for the Nintendo faithful...



element187 said:

@justlink You rather have a remake than a new IP?

::Nintendo delivers new franchise:::
Nintendo "fans": No, we want remakes not new IP you big oaf.



element187 said:

@Tony_342 I want to smoke what Intelligent Systems smoked to come up with this game idea.

With how good Fire Emblem Awakening turned out, I think IS has deserved the benefit of the doubt on this..... Also early development never looks pretty. I rather wait until a game is almost ready for release before criticizing it. But then again strategy/rpg games are not about graphics.



MussakkuLaden said:

Er, well, I don't really find attractive what I see so far, but then Intelligent Systems has rarely done anything wrong and this is still better than anything I had expected when I read that title first.



KryptoKrunch said:


lol yep. The hypocrites boggle my mind. And these are the same folks that want Nintendo to listen to their fans. How can a company listen to their fans when said fans change their mind so much?



IronMan28 said:

Man, this looks cool. I love MM, but I'm glad Nintendo didn't waste their time last night revealing the game and showed a brand new one. Can't wait for this, the Ruby remake, Smash on both systems, and all of the Wii U games shown. Nintendo kicked butt this year.



electrolite77 said:


"IF it simply created a couple of brand new genuine AAA killer titles with the same kind of basically universal impact and appeal that first party games/franchises like Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Pokemon achieved across the entire gaming community when they were created,"

'Simply?' 'Simply.' What is simple about creating a new franchise that has universal appeal? Why as examples do you list the like of Smash Bros and Pokemon which took years to become huge? Why as an example do you list Metroid which is far from having universal appeal beyond Nintendo fans? If you think there's anything simple about doing what you propose they do there you're living in a magical fantasy land populated with fairies and elves.



Lavita said:

At first I was sceptic because I didn't dig the art style. But after seeing gameplay I'm actually excited for this.



Kirk said:


The "simply" isn't referring to how easy the task it to complete but how easy the solution is to find/see imo.

It's more like: All they really have to do is this (insert "this" here)...How they achieve that is not my problem.

Also; both Pokemon and Smash were instant HUGE successes from the very first iterations of those games:

Super Smash Bros (first game in series):

Pokemon Red and Blue (First game(s) in series):



khululy said:

@BenAV I never actually played Majora's mask ever so I certainly wouldn't mind to have it as a 3DS game.
And the N64 graphics don't hold up well on modern screens and having it revamped and portable makes it a lot more accesible plus Nintendo likes to see younger players enjoy their legacy in a fresher way and ofcourse fork money over to do so as well



BulbasaurusRex said:

Not until 2015?! The 3DS needs some more love this year! It's already been a lean year so far for the "little handheld that could," and all we've really got coming for the second half are Smash Bros., Pokémon remakes, an Ace Attorney collection/remaster, and a few e-Shop games.



Mus1cLov3r said:

@justlink Well, of course you would rather have a remake of Majora's Mask than a new IP, you have the Master Sword as your profile pic...... :-/



Mus1cLov3r said:

@BulbasaurusRex That doesn't worry me, because I've been buying 3DS titles that I skipped or games that were released before I got my 3DS. Needless to say, I have plenty of games to play.



justlink said:

@Mus1cLov3r I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that I don't really enjoy all the teasing of a remake then being brought down. I'd probably be excited for a game like this if there never was teasing



Melkac said:

@B3ND3R Ah, right, forgot they were developing FE x SMT, not Atlus. Guess Atlus is too busy on Sony consoles now...

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