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IceClimbers commented on Mario Kart 8 Secures Place as Top-Selling SKU ...:

@jrob23 It isn't always about system sellers. 3DS recovered because it received a steady stream of games that created a strong, diverse library, not because of one system seller. The barrage of games saved that system. Nintendo is going for the same strategy here. Mario Kart 8's job was to spark momentum right before E3 and start a snowball effect that will really get going once Hyrule Warriors releases, as there shouldn't be any major droughts after that.

@Peach64 "and might make Nintendo think twice before considering future titles 'too Japanese' to localise." coughFatalFramecough



IceClimbers commented on New Fatal Frame Will Be Spooking The Wii U In ...:

Looks absolutely fantastic. I hope they localize this.

I'd like to point out that this isn't the Wii era anymore. Nintendo has been a LOT better about localizing games this generation. Localizing these games fills out the lineup of games to help prevent droughts. While Fatal Frame is niche, it's a game like Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third. It's another strong exclusive game that is outside of the normal things people expect from Nintendo. It stands out on the Wii U, where as on XB1/PS4 it would likely get buried among all the other games (well it would if it weren't for their weak libraries at the moment). Strong exclusives like this help build the Wii U's library and only benefits it in the end. Nintendo has no reason not to localize this, especially since they co-own the Fatal Frame franchise.



IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Why Chrom Didn't Make It Into...:

@BulbasaurusRex Dark Pit can be made into his own character without being a clone of Pit very easily.

@whanvee Lucina didn't take a roster spot from anyone else. Her spot on the roster didn't exist at first. An extra roster spot was created later on in development specifically for her. If Lucina wasn't playable, that roster spot would not exist. Kinda like how Bayonetta 2 wouldn't exist if Nintendo didn't fund and publish it.



IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Why Chrom Didn't Make It Into...:

As for the Gematsu leak, I do believe that part of it was real inside info, but not all of it. Or maybe the leak is still real because Sakurai was the leaker the entire time. If that's the case, then that's the greatest trolling of all time.

Either way, I'm glad that this curveball was thrown because it puts us back in the dark going forward so we can be surprised again.



IceClimbers commented on Sakurai Explains Why Chrom Didn't Make It Into...:

Basically, Lucina is the exception to the whole "roster being decided upon before development began" thing that Sakurai said at E3 in regards to Greninja. Originally, it was just going to be Marth, Ike, and Robin, but then he created a brand new roster spot for Lucina later on because of the slight differences between her and Marth. That roster spot wouldn't exist otherwise.



IceClimbers commented on Yokai Watch 2 Sells a Whopping 1.3 Million Cop...:

Wow! That's extremely impressive. Congrats, Level-5!

@Peach64 I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think that MK8 has pushed a ton of Wii U hardware. It definitely pushed some units, but in no way did it sell tons of systems like everyone is saying it needs to. I don't believe that Nintendo was relying on MK8 to "save" the system by pushing millions of systems, or at least on its own. I'll explain in the next paragraph or two to make it a little easier to read and not some wall of text:

Mario Kart 8's job was to spark momentum, which it did. I think Nintendo strategically placed MK8's release so that it would spark momentum right before E3. That's why the game released like a week before E3. MK8's positive reception sparked momentum (the Luigi's Death Stare meme helped) that was kept going by Nintendo's absolutely fantastic E3 performance. Now it's being continued with updates for games like Smash and Hyrule Warriors. It will keep going via updates on these games and things like Nintendo Directs until Hyrule Warriors releases, where it will really take off.

Basically, it's the combination of MK8, Hyrule Warriors, Bayonetta 2+1, Captain Toad, Sonic Boom, and Smash Bros (backed by the already established library and a big look at what to look forward to next year) that will save the Wii U. MK8 sparks momentum at the end of May. E3 keeps the momentum going through June. Updates on upcoming games keeps hype and some momentum going through the drought in July and most of August. Then Hyrule Warriors launches in August (Japan)/September (everywhere else), and the Wii U takes off from there with a barrage of games following. That's how Nintendo turned the 3DS around, so it should hopefully work for the Wii U too. Hopefully the 3DS doesn't suffer as a result though.

PS: Love the new avatar.



IceClimbers commented on CoroCoro Magazine Reveals Mega Metagross for P...:

Metagross lost his viability over time thanks to Team Preview in Gen 5 (ruining his effectiveness as a lead), and then the Steel type nerf and rise of priority moves from Pokemon that OHKO or 2HKO Metagross.

He absolutely deserved a Mega Evolution. Mega Milotic is gonna happen too most likely.



IceClimbers commented on 3DS On Top As Wii U Remains Highest Selling Ho...:

From the looks of things, sales for the Wii U will be a roller coaster. They'll spike at a new game release, and then drop back down a few weeks later, rinse and repeat. The same as all platforms.

It'll sell a ton over the holidays. Same with the 3DS. Pokemon ORAS will be a system seller for the 3DS, despite being a remake.



IceClimbers commented on Fi Confirmed For Hyrule Warriors Along With Sk...:

The Famitsu scans also say that Ghirahim and The Imprisoned will appear as enemies. So no playable Ghirahim apparently. Zelda also seems to be wielding the Wind Waker in one of the pictures.

Come on, where's my Groose? Might as well put Tingle in while they're at it too.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@8BitSamurai Not much different from Nintendo's handhelds, where many people only use it for Pokemon and shun anything else, including Mario and Zelda.

The NES to SNES was actually a fairly big drop (it dropped by over 10 million units, while SNES to N64 was a 17 million unit drop). Sega was curbstomped by Sony too. Sony curbstomped them because they were the new kid on the block. Sega started to self destruct, while Nintendo took too long to come out with the N64 and screwed up with the CD addons for the SNES, which created PlayStation in the first place, as well as sticking with cartridges on N64.

Anyways, this debate is getting absolutely nowhere. Let's just agree to disagree and enjoy some games :)



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@8BitSamurai Capcom is going to go bankrupt. They had $152 million in the bank last September. Some games have a higher budget than that (good example being Destiny and its $500 million budget). If it wasn't for Monster Hunter 4, they'd be bankrupt right now. There's a reason why Capcom's shareholders are stopping the takeover defense strategies. Capcom is dying.

When 3rd parties are giving Wii U owners gimped versions of multiplats, why should they buy those games? The majority of Wii U owners have a PS3/360 or a PS4/XB1, or better yet, a PC. Why buy a gimped version of the game on the Wii U when you can get the version that most likely runs better on the other systems?

Nintendo is a safe haven for those Japanese developers because the Wii U is the only home console platform they can consider stability when that side of the industry is going through such a period of unrest. The PS4 is 99% focused on the west. I never said anything about Nintendo holding their hands through development.

More and more people will switch from consoles to PC this generation. People are starting to realize that there is no reason to pick up a Sony or Microsoft console when you can get 90% of the games on the PC. Xbox and PlayStation exclusives are few and far between. Nintendo on the other hand lives off of exclusives which you can't get anywhere else. People buy an Xbox or PlayStation primarily for 3rd party games. With PC, there's no reason to do that anymore.

Go around other websites. Most people are disappointed with the PS4 and XB1. There's several people who are going PC + Wii U this generation.

Nintendo's consoles have been on a downward slope the whole time in terms of sales (Wii being the exception) as SNES sold less than the NES. So it has nothing to do with 3rd party support. The NES and SNES had 3rd party support because of Nintendo's absolutely cruel policies. The vast majority of those games were also exclusive, not multiplat.

Face reality: Nintendo will never be a place for anything more than it's exclusives. Getting more exclusives is the key. Not multiplats.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@8BitSamurai Don't expect the 3rd parties to EVER actively support Nintendo's home consoles, or at least the western ones. Would full multiplat support be nice? Sure. It's not gonna happen though. It makes no business sense for those developers when their games don't sell on Nintendo's systems.

Exclusives are what sell Nintendo systems.

Nintendo can build relationships with third parties by doing collaborations like Hyrule Warriors or funding/publishing games like Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third. That's what they are doing with Japanese third parties right now, and the success of Japanese third parties on Nintendo's handhelds certainly helps as well.

It's actually smart that Nintendo is trying to build relationships with Japanese third parties. Why? That side of the industry is in a major rough spot with Capcom's imminent buyout or bankruptcy. Developers are also fleeing the major publishers like the Titanic. With Sony focusing the PS4 almost completely on the west, Nintendo is basically a safe haven for these developers as far as home consoles go. Especially for those Japanese developers that want to make Japanese games and not have to adapt to western (primarily US) culture. Nintendo has a golden opportunity there, as they are the closest thing to stability.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@rjejr Hyrule Warriors is September 26th in North America, September 19th in Europe. Captain Toad could be shoehorned into an amiibo Direct that we all know is coming, while Smash will probably get a Direct as well.

@DiscoGentleman I hope it doesn't get delayed. We'll see though.

@Peach64 Have you looked at the refurbished systems on Nintendo's online store? They might have a white one there.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@unrandomsam Only game that might happen to is Star Fox. The rest are solid 2015 releases.

@Superstick 3rd party support won't sell the Wii U at all. Why would people get a Wii U for 3rd party games when they already have a PS3/360, PS4/XB1, or a PC? Exclusives are what sell the system. Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors may not do much individually, but in combination with other games like Smash Bros, Captain Toad, and the numerous games coming next year, they will do a lot.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

@unrandomsam Yeah, but I don't think details on those games warrant a Direct so soon. Not until August at least. Also, those details could be split into individual Directs instead of one big one.

Anyways, watch the next Direct be a Pokemon Direct, pissing off certain people on the internet like Shokio. Then we get all those "Nintendo didn't learn a thing" videos because the first Direct after E3 wasn't something about the Wii U, even though the 3DS needs it more after not getting a whole lot of attention at E3.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: With E3 Long Gone, Nintendo Sti...:

I think it's a bit too soon, as E3 covered a lot. The next Direct will mainly give more details on the upcoming games. However, will we see things like Hyrule Warriors, Bayo 2, Smash, and Captain Toad bundled into one Direct, or will we see them in individual Directs? Hyrule Warriors could get its own Direct, and Captain Toad will probably be bundled into an amiibo Direct. Smash can easily get it's own Direct, while Bayonetta 2 could just have a release date announcement outside of a Direct with a trailer just dropped on us.

The only major thing that could warrant a Direct soon would be VC stuff and system updates.

On a side note, anyone else think Nintendo will pull a Tropical Freeze on Captain Toad?



IceClimbers commented on Feature: The Biggest Wii U Games of 2014 - Sum...:

@Franklin You contradicted your own statement with the F-Zero bit at the end.

What the console needs is fun games and VARIETY that are exclusive to the system. The games coming provide that. You may not be interested in Captain Toad, but there are many who are. Variety sells. Doesn't matter if Captain Toad could have been made on the 3DS, it's exclusive to the Wii U so you will have to buy that system if you want to play the game. It is easily a $50 retail game.

By the way, we don't see endless New Super Mario Bros games. There's been 4 of them across 4 systems. One per system. That's not milking it. Sales of the NSMB games have gone down each iteration anyway.

Kid Icarus Uprising is NOT an open world game. There are no open world or sandbox games on the 3DS actually.

The Wii U is not failing badly. Poor sales, yes, but it is recovering thanks to Mario Kart 8, Nintendo's killer E3, and the upcoming lineup. It's outselling the PS4 every week in Japan.



IceClimbers commented on Nintendo Files Patent for "Eye Tracking" Devic...:

It should be pointed out that this is different from the 3D that we're used to on things like the 3DS and 3D TVs. This also goes around the limitations of some people getting headaches or not being able to see normal stereoscopic 3D, as well as the motion sickness of VR tech like Occulus and Morpheus. There's also no sweet spot, so you can view it at multiple angles.

This essentially can take any normal TV and make it a 3D TV. Johnny Lee's video is the best way to see it in action. Combine this tech with touchable holograms (which are possible, and have been done), and you have some amazing potential (Senran Kagura Burst, anyone?). Could be really immersive in Zelda or even Metroid. Oh, and Pokemon Snap with this tech would be godly.



IceClimbers commented on Feature: The Biggest Wii U Games of 2014 - Sum...:

Smash Bros for sure, which will be a Christmas list game. I want Bayonetta 2 really bad, but Smash 3DS and Pokemon Alpha Sapphire are getting in the way, as well as a Disneyland trip next year. Otherwise Bayo2 would be a day one purchase. Same goes for Project CARS.

Pokemon Alpha Sapphire might have to be a Christmas list game as well, because I'd choose Smash 3DS over it to buy on day one. If I put Smash 3DS on my Christmas list, then I'd end up getting it over Smash Wii U, cause it's the cheaper game and they will think it's the exact same game. Gonna be weird not getting a Pokemon game on launch day though.



IceClimbers commented on Mother 25th Anniversary Fanfest Teleports in t...:

Hope we see Mother 1 and Mother 3 on the VC eventually. Mother 1's already been localized, they don't have an excuse to not release it.

Of course, if they do release both Mother games, then what are fans gonna pester Reggie about?



IceClimbers commented on Bandai Namco Picks up Project CARS for Worldwi...:

Thank you Namco. November seems to be a good month for the Wii U with Sonic Boom, Project CARS, Smash Bros, and Captain Toad. Though now I feel like Captain Toad will be announced for December, and then end up slipping to February like DKC did.

Would love to see some Wii U footage.



IceClimbers commented on EA Explains Why It's Abandoning Dedicated Hand...:

Good riddance. Only game I want from EA is Star Wars Battlefront. Unfotunately, I don't have a PS4 or XB1, and the game has a 0% chance of coming to Wii U. My PC probably couldn't run it either.

They're not going to be very successful in the mobile market, at least not in the long term. Go ask Capcom and Square Enix.

I feel like this is a good time to bring this up: Do you guys think we are heading towards another industry crash?



IceClimbers commented on Cross-Buy is Now a Thing on Nintendo Platforms:

Click bait title.

Guys, this means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Nintendo won't be implementing cross buy and a full account system until the next generation of systems. Iwata already said that. Face reality people, you won't get it until next generation. This means that Nintendo will have to go through the same drip-dry process of releasing Urban Champion and other crappy NES titles before we get to the good stuff next generation. It sucks, but that's reality. Deal with it.

@Tritonus Games are tied to your NNID. However, your NNID is tied to one Wii U and 3DS system. My Wii U could break right now, and I can call Nintendo's customer service and have them unlock my NNID from the broken system so that I can log in on the new system. Not convenient, but I will get my games back. Save files on the other hand, are a lost cause because you would have to redownload the games from the eShop for free.



IceClimbers commented on Stats Suggest That UK Kids Are More Likely To ...:

Sadly enough, this is true. The mobile market has stripped Nintendo's handhelds of the hyper-casual audience of the DS and the majority of the kid audience of their handhelds in general. Parents would rather buy their kids a $150 Android tablet with $1 or free games than a $130 2DS/$200 3DS XL or even a $300 Wii U.

This is why I say that the 3DS is fighting a tougher battle than the Wii U is, despite being much more successful.

43 million in 3 years is pretty good given the state of the market now. This is why you see Nintendo actually localizing games now: they need to fill the release schedule. However, it's only going to get tougher from here on out for the 3DS. Has the 3DS already peaked? Will system sales just decline from here on out, reaching below pre-Kart 8 Wii U sales by this time next year? Nintendo has to make sure the answer to these questions is a solid no.



IceClimbers commented on Talking Point: New Ideas, Not New IPs, Are The...:

One thing that should be mentioned is Kid Icarus Uprising. While not a new IP, it was still a much needed breath of fresh air. New IPs are great, but sometimes old dormant IPs can make for fun new experiences as well. Uprising has become one of my favorite games of all time.

As much as I love Mario and Zelda, I'd love to see more from old IPs that haven't seen the light of day in years (StarTropics anyone?) or new IPs all together.

Seeing Splatoon, Nintendo should definitely give their younger developers freedom more often.



IceClimbers commented on Developers Outline The Creative Process for Cr...:

@unrandomsam Probably going to be some sort of asymmetric gameplay (think ZombiU's local multiplayer, though probably works differently than that). I think I remember reading something about it being focused more on stalking and hiding in the ink.

Nintendo doesn't seem ready to sell GamePads separately unfortunately. Still too expensive most likely.



IceClimbers commented on Mario Kart 8 and Tomodachi Life Show Decent Mo...:

@Kirk I don't think Nintendo is relying on one game to "save" the Wii U. I actually do not believe that Nintendo was expecting Kart 8 to sell millions of systems (expecting it to is overly optimistic). I think Nintendo knows that most people will wait until the holidays, where Kart 8, Smash, Hyrule Warriors, Captain Toad, Sonic Boom, and Bayonetta 2 + Bayonetta 1 will all be out. The combination will sell systems.

As for Kart Wii, I personally think it did not sell as many Wii systems as everybody seems to believe - the Wii was already selling like hotcakes at that point. It sold to current owners mainly. Lots of casuals.