Yay! Good review man. I've been playing this, and it's really addicting. You're right that it's no SF1 or 2, or even CD, but it's still great in its own right.

I wouldn't want an inferior version regardless. I'll be getting it for the PS4 no matter what.

Definitely a game that could've been great. Luckily, plenty of other developers had taken up the task of perfecting the gameplay it laid out, so Nintendo really doesn't have to bother at this point.

@rastamadeus Bangai-O HD was actually a rerelease of Bangai-O Spirits with more levels, at least according to what I can find.

It sold me at least. I loved playing as Peach in the accursed Super Mario Bros. 2.

Yup, good review. I have multiple Genesis versions, so I won't be playing this one, but I still think it's a good puzzler to have on the go.

Good, I just got a Wii U at full price. Though a price drop would certainly drive sales, now wouldn't it?

Wow, I'm actually in the majority for most of these polls. That's rare.

The Genesis version was waaaaay too hard for me. Since this doesn't sound any easier, I think I'll pass.

@Zyph No need. They released it on the DS. You can buy all 4 games + extras for a whopping 16.98 on Amazon. Nintendo would charge you almost twice as much for all 4 games minus extras on VC.

@Damo You could always use the second control option in the DC game. Even the manual says it's better.

Very interesting article. It hadn't occured to me that Nintendo might be stretched for poeople and time working on all of these games. I certainly hope Nintendo doesn't crumble under the strain of it all...

@Linkstrikesback Ambition =/= Quality. You can be ambitious yet fail at everything you do. Ambition just means what you're trying to do, not the end result. If you're talking about Scope, that's more the fault of the hardware - They used a disc that held only half the amount of Data, and no way was Nintendo going to admit their folly by using two discs in a Mario game. They were handicapped.

@Linkstrikesback You're making the incorrect suggestion that Super Mario Sunshine was not ambitious, when it actually did a lot to change the series, probably more so than even Galaxy.

@Phillip_J_Reed - it means any ports to the Wii U won't do well, which won't help it's third party support. That then means less games for the Wii U, which translates to less Wii Us sold. Overall, it's just a downward spiral.

Even with Third Party support, I had to get a 360 and a PS3 this gen along with a Nintendo Wii, and I know many who chose a similar route. Honestly, his argument doesn't just make sense - It's pretty much inevitable.

I agree with @Philip_J_Reed about ZX and ZX Advent being enjoyable if you liked the Zero Series. Heck, they're enjoyable if you like your Zero games not balls-to-the-wall hard.

Good review. I'd be interested in this, but I have the DC version.

Hoping it's better than the singleplayer in Brawl. Also, good to hear they're open to DLC.

Minor disappointment followed up by incredible news? Hell to the yeah!

Yet I'm sure most of you will be playing Tropical Freeze on or soon after its release anyways.

Personally, I'm not bothered. I'd rather their big game came out after they've used the Wii U more.

Thank you. Now I can get Mighty Switch Force 2 next week.

@slidecage More like Fire Emblem's a poor-man's Shining Force.

SHINING FOOOOOOOOORRRRCCCCEEEE

I'd say Super Smash Bros. Impressed me the most. I didn't expect it to actually interest me, but now it's a must buy. Mega Man for the win!

@Doma Damnit...Nintendo, why you no online?!

It's motivating me, that's for sure.

I'm fine with that. Just make sure there's online Multiplayer this time, k?

@DarkCoolEdge It's not a mini-Map. It's a Map pack. As in Multiple maps. See: "Suitable for the early stages of the game, the new maps will help players gain extra experience to boost their characters with enemies and a collectible demon exclusive to the DLC." — Siliconera

^I wouldn't say Etrian Odyssey IV is grind-heavy per se. It's exploration heavy. Good equipment does way more than level-ups, and honestly, I have yet to grind for money or equipment so far.

Classic mode?! Good god, the replay value just shoot through the roof!

Oh my poor wallet...

Seriously, this is dumb. All my hype for this game is killed. The end. Guess Pokemon Black was my swansong for the series after all...

Looks great to me, can't wait for it. Will be picking this one up hopefully alongside Super Smash Bros. and X next year.

^I highly doubt that...

This looks AMAZING! Totally buying a Wii U just for this!!!

Not worth going to Best Buy for those. I wish the rumored list was correct...

EDIT: Oh wait, Zelda? Might be worth going to Best Buy for that and the 3D Mario...

'course the video screwed up on me before Mega Man showed up! THIS IS BIG NEWS!!!

I got stuck there so many times...

@LtAldoRaine Nope. Not yet at least, but I'd actually be surprised if that was happening any time soon.

VC makes it redundant anyways. A PS Home-like Arcade would've been nice, but not essential.

@DarkCoolEdge But What IS worth the price? How is a new Dungeon with an exclusive demon not worth 2 measily dollars? How are new characters not worth $5 in a fighting game, even if it's a party one? What do you expect, for them to release a brand new game as DLC? Because the sense I'm getting from you is that nothing short of that is actually worth anything. You, and many other don't seem to understand that DLC does require work, and people need to be compensated for it. And yes, the company you like making money is a good thing, since the more money they have, the more they can put towards new games.

Of course, this is not to say anyone has to buy DLC. As others have said, this is all entirely optional. In this case, Atlus themselves have said SMT's DLC is for gamers who don't have time to grind, so obviously not everyone would really even need to be interested in it. Those maps are not meant to be important. That demon's probably not that important outside of its collectable status. It's just an option for those who need some extra help, that's all. It's not like they're making us pay for the true ending or anything like that.

Really, I'm just tired of people yammering on about how terrible DLC is, when not only is it usually optional, but most of their complaints are downright incorrect. Sure, On-Disc DLC is a genuinely stupid practice most of the time, but Day One DLC is not always the same as On-Disc DLC, since Day One DLC can be made after the production of the game is over, but still be done in time for the game's release. Also, DLC is usually optional stuff, for those who want an easier game, or for those who who want more game down the road without paying for a new disc, or making everyone else feel overwhelmed by the sheer level of content (hence why I played more of Skyrim basic than Fallout 3 GOTY, even though I like FO3 more - there's too much to do in FO3 GOTY), so there's much less reasons to be so up-in-arms against them. It would be a big problem if they did restrict content that was already done before the production of the game ends, and that content is actually very important to the story (looking at you, Asura's Wrath) - that's stuff to actually get upset about, at least in my opinion. Fire Emblem's maps and SMTIV's armore and hairstyles seem like a molehill compared to that.

Really, I just think people are blowing this whole DLC thing out of proportion, without even focusing on the real problems with it.

Now this is reason enough to get excited.

I'd like to try all of those, actually. Was hoping Sonic would be among them, though.

I don't want to even touch Nintendo BLand, so I'm not buying a Wii U unless they produce an SKU that that doesn't have that atrocity. Right now it's the basic unit. If they get rid of that, I won't be getting a Wii U for a long, long time.

My only complqaint is that there's no Etrian Odyssey IV, but then it'd need to be a top 11, because all these games are too good. Glad to see Rhythm Thief at the top, too.

So long as the next one is good...

@Inev I don't think they've said one way or the other about the eShop price yet, unfortunately. Looks like it'll be a surprise.

As for SMT, it sounds like SMTIV helps you learn the game with its tutorials, but is still quite difficult, at least that's what Famitsu has said. Soul Hackers, on the otherhand is simpler, so there's less to learn, but also less that it teaches you. I think SMTIV also has more features that make demon fusion easier, and there's no loyalty system as far as I know. It's looking like SMT IV might be the way to go for newcomers. Soul Hackers is definitely for the existing fans, though for a Dungeon Crawler, it's relatively forgiving. I'd recommend both in the end, but if you had to buy one first, I think it'd be smarter to get the one with the included strategy guide (SMTIV) on day one, then get Soul Hackers a little later.

@DarkCoolEdge Oh woe is you. I take it without those 2 Euros, you'll have to go with one less cup of coffee in your day? That must be horrible...so sad...

Seriously, if you're gonna say that's too much when there's $15+ map packs out there, you won't get any sympathy from me.

And don't sell anything important? That's not how DLC is supposed to work. $5 for a character in Super Smash Bros. would be a steal in my book. In fact, Nintendo better add more characters via DLC, or it'll be a complete missed opportunity. And don't try to say "everything should be in the game in the first place" because they have to eventually stop making content so they can actually make money. You know how many hours adding a new character would take? All the constant tweaks throughout the entire game? That's genuine effort put into the stuff, and I'd rather they give us a good amount of characters right away and add more stuff later, so I can have something to play now, so the Wii U will have something important to play NOW, than to have to wait an extra year for them to include all that stuff with the full game. That would be an entire year of potential sales lost, and an extra year of costs that will be even more difficult to make back without DLC. Do you understand? It would actually be GOOD for them to release DLC, especially important DLC like characters - good for Nintendo and good for us. We'll have plenty to play now, and reasons to play later, while Nintendo gets more money. It's Win freakin' Win.

@Big_L91 You know a lot of "Day One DLC" are made during the months between when the game is "done" and its final release date, right?

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/bethesda-defends-day-one-dlc-6406719

$2 for a map pack and an exclusive demon sounds fantastic! I figured by map pack they meant...well, maps...