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The Next Batman Game Is Arkham Knight, And No, There Won't Be A Wii U Version

Posted by Damien McFerran

Or a PS3 or 360 edition, for that matter

UK retailer Game has leaked the next instalment in the Batman "Arkham" series, which goes by the name of Batman: Arkham Knight.

The retailer only lists the game as coming to the Xbox One, PS4 and PC. There's no reference to a PS3, Xbox 360 or — you guessed it — Wii U iteration of the title.

Given the lack of any "current" gen offerings, the lack of any Nintendo love perhaps shouldn't come as a massive shock. Any Wii U edition would — for better or worse — have been based on the PS3 or 360 instalment, given that Nintendo's console is a closer match in terms of technological power to those systems than it is to recently-released "next gen" platforms.

Batman: Arkham City and Batman: Arkham Origins both made it to the Wii U, while Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate — a port of the 3DS entry — is coming to the Wii U eShop soon.

Were you hoping that the Wii U would get the next Arkham game, especially as this one sees acclaimed developer Rocksteady back in the hotseat? Let us know with a comment.


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Evenmoresteven said:

This isn't really that shocking, but sad none the less. Let's hope Nintendo can keep up, and possibly increase, the rate of their first party offerings. So far all the first party stuff has been stellar. I follow Big N's employment twitter account, and they have been hiring like crazy, and a lot of the positions have been design and programming positions. So we can hope.



ikki5 said:

I never buy them so it doesn't affect me much though it sucks to see WB move away from Nintendo.



Shiryu said:

I find the lack of Wii U disgusting, but sadly expected after the gimped version we got last year. Still, very disappointed with this news...



DESS-M-8 said:

This needs to come to wii u. These games are amazing and i WILL NOT be buying a ps4. No wii u version? No arkham knight for me and I've played these since asylum.

Crying shame if this is limited to ps4 and xcrap only



Hy8ogen said:

Although I don't give a damn about batman games, it is still sad to see 3rd party devs moving away from Nintendo.

Nintendo better start stepping up their game (no pun intended), or sh!ts gonna go bad. Although their first party titles are awesome, they still need 3rd party games to move units.... just my humble opinion.



FullbringIchigo said:

still this was only on the gameuk website untill the publisher says there is no WiiU version I will continue to be hopeful



Zach777 said:

Well good thing this news is on a Nintendo site. Another new game to not look forward to.



Blast said:

These guys are milking the Batman franchise anyway. Lemme know when Batgirl or Batwoman get their own game.



IronMan28 said:

@Knux, me neither, I can't wait to play an awesome game on my Wii U! Oh, wait, it's not coming to Wii U. Why do we care, now?



Lopezdm said:

At this point I know this is not a shock to anyone. Good news is that in the mean time Smash Bros., and Mario Cart will be released. I sure that there will be a news release on a New Zelda title. Just let go of the thought that 3rd party's are going to support the Wii u and you all will be a lot happier.



Banker-Style said:

Not really a shock, but still kinda disappointing,but it would've been a heck a lot more disappointing if it was coming to PS3/360 and no Wii U.

Will be getting a PS4 now.



IronMan28 said:

Someone should post a list of games not coming to Wii U, because that matters to Wii U owners.



Peach64 said:

I think it was inevitable that once we started getting PS4/Xbone only games that Wii U ports were going to start becoming near impossible. I wasn't expecting then to drop PS3 and 360 versions so soon but it's a happy surprise they are.



Knux said:

@Daisaku36 Then you buy a PS4 and/or Xbox One. I own a Xbox One and plan to buy a PS4 hopefully during this year. After all, I thought that common sense says that you buy a console when you see a game that you really want to play.



Lopezdm said:

P.s. if you don't own ether bat man games released in the Wii u then you could be part of the problem. If every Wii u owner bought a copy of those two games it could let the publisher know that the game has a home on the Wii u.



IronMan28 said:

@Knux Even if I really wanted this that badly, I wouldn't buy a new console for it. I have way too much to spend on other things, like diapers for my incoming daughter, than on an XBone or PS4 right now. I will probably buy an Xbox One later on this year, but not until I see a bundle that interests me. Titanfall looks a bit boring, and Destiny looks like a Halo clone.



rjejr said:

And so it begins!

I know there have been other games not on Wii U like MGS but this seems like the first "next gen" multiplat to be announced outside of EAs sports games which we know are never coming.

This makes me a little sad as a lot of us thought the move to HD would allow Wii U to at least "run" X1 and PS4 games, even if not as shiny.

I wonder how much this actually has to do w/ "power" and how much it has to do w/ install base and sales? I really think Wii U is probably powerful enough to run some gimped version of these games if the developers really wanted it to. Wii U is getting Spiderman next month. And Lego games. And probably SKylanders. Though I suppose they will all be on last gen this year as well.

Next game to look for I suppose is Assassins Creed?



LtAldoRaine said:

Crap. There's one game I won't be playing any time soon. Too bad we had to receive the decent,but underwhelming cash grab of Arkham Origins and not the real sequel to Arkham City.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Daisaku36 Say that to the Bayonetta fans that have to buy a Wii U for Bayonetta 2 and also for your "Halo" clone comment Bungie developed the series before they left Microsoft so how Destiny is a "clone"?



Darknyht said:

I'm sad to hear that, but life will go on and I will find other things to spend my money on and play. I guess if I am really hard pressed for Arkham Knight, I can always buy it for $5 during the next Steam sale.



GunstarHero234 said:

I'm so ready for this though I thought this was a rumor and what's better Rocksteady is developing this title hell yes.



Peach64 said:

Game and formats now confirmed by Rocksteady. Sad news for Wii U but awesome news for gamers. I skipped Origins but the return of Rocksteady and not being limited by 360/PS3 versions should lead to another awesome Batman game.



Azooooz said:

Publisher/developer: "We have a new game for Wii U".
Nintendo fanboy:"Nah, I bought Wii U just for exclusives".
Publisher: "Our new game is coming to all platform except Wii U".
Nintendo fanboy: "Why u no release it for Wii U?"

And the cycle goes on...



rjejr said:

@Daisaku36 - "because that matters to Wii U owners. "

This is a Nintendo site, not a Wii U site. Nintendo probably has lots of fans who purchased the 3DS who are still on the fence about the Wii U (based on 3DS and Wii U global sales I'ld say thats a given), so this news could be important to them as they decide which system to buy next.

As you alluded to in a later post, money is limited for which console to buy and when. Off point, I always refer to "Destiny" as "Sphere", its so obvious thats what they were thinking for a sequel to "Halo".



Lopezdm said:

@Shroom_Muncher because publishers look at sales numbers. If they make no money or even loose money on releasing a game on the Wii u then support will stop. Buying the Wii u vers of the past 2 games could show the publisher that there is a possibility to make money. Its common sense really



ericwithcheese2 said:

It's pretty clear why there won't be a Wii U version. The Wii U is too similiar to the PS3 and 360 in terms of graphic horsepower, and they are making this game strictly for consoles that are more advanced than Wii U is. A simple port won't be easy to do in terms of downscaling, and the WIi U doesn't have nearly a large enough install base to warrant them doing an entirely separate version.



HandheldGuru97 said:

Seems a little early to cut PS360 support, but if you wanna sell consoles having the games on the old hardware could be harmful. Can't say I'm surprised there won't be a Wii U version. But remember this is still technically a rumor I don't think Rocksteady has confirmed it yet



Emblem said:

So when a game is announced for wii u u no one bothers to comment but when a game is announced to not be on the wii u everyone wants to comment....



DreamOn said:

The HD capability of Wii U is now officially outdated with the end of PS360 ports. It's Wii time again! Except the shovelware this time around is from the rising indie/mobile devs.



DreamOn said:

@Emblem Uh, if the bigger and more interesting news story was that the Wii U was getting a game instead of not getting one, I'd be even more concerned. Let's hope that the Wii U getting a single game isn't in the future the biggest news ever.



Lopezdm said:

@Shroom_Muncher Well you can't expect to get a shiny new game with all the bells and whistles without showing a little support. No matter if the game has a few flaws. At the end if the day Wii U owners picked the console they bought. If they don't support it then they are also to blame for when it fails.I love my Wii u but I know what it is. Its a Nintendo game player that my daughter uses to watch nexflix on. Oh and sometimes Disney infinity. I play Zelda on it and that's about it. I have a PS4 and love it but its just for me. The Wii u is for the family.



GalacticMario28 said:

Not suprising; personally, I don't really care about another Batman: Arkham (insert word here) game, but I do see how this news is more than a little annoying for others.



Gamer83 said:

Actually not as bad a reaction here as I expected to see. It is a shame for Wii U-only owners who enjoy the Arkham series. I'm definitely hyped for this though.



Beechbone said:

It's actually good news. Developing cross-gen titles hurts the quality because you have to compromise on a lot of stuff to fit the game on every system.

And don't worry we'll have plenty of awesome games to play on Wii U anyways



Lopezdm said:

@Shroom_Muncher because 3rd party games have little to do with Nintendo when sales are involved. Nintendo makes no money selling the Wii u. It become profitable after 2 1st party games. Idk prob play on my PC.



Marshi said:

To be fair,i would have been getting the ps4 ver with it being the first "next gen" batman game



Lopezdm said:

@GunstarHero234 Thanks, just trying to be fair. I make games for a living and I know the importance of Nintendo being in the gaming world. If I were to ever release a game on the Wii u I would hope it would sell. If not then I would not make a return and that's just business.



ultraraichu said:

Darn it, I want to say that this type of 3rd party support is what's hurting the Wii U but support is a 2-way street and I haven't brought Orgins or Blackgate, and got City for <$20 which I hardly play, so I'll be quiet now.



Marshi said:

@Shroom_Muncher I see what your saying mate,both you and @lopezdm are right in your own ways. However the problem I think is both stubborn gamers AND 3rd party devs. People dont buy 3rd party games for system->game sales low->3rd party puts less effort into next game-> gamers dont buy 3rd party games. And so on and so forth. Its a vicious circle and it'l never end unless one side gives in. But gamers are unwilling to buy bad ports and 3rd parties are unwill to put full effort into a ver of a game that wont sell.

Ps. Please try arkham city armoured ed before getting rid. Just believing all the negative press is part of the problem!



dumedum said:

Here's the thing though... I don't mind buying a PS4 to play this game. Sure, I would have preferred it all to be on Wii U but I would buy another console for the Batman game. BUT I just want to play it on the Game Pad. It's the same thing with Mass Effect. I like playing using the Game Pad too much. So I forced to buy another console AND play with what I perceive as a horrible boring controller with no map or interactivity... I just don't want to.

It's just not the same without the Game Pad



dumedum said:

I bought both City and Origins on Wii U and would have pre-ordered this on Wii U too. There are 100,000's of people like that.



Sir_JBizzle said:

@Shroom_Muncher well, being that they have pushed back Watch_Dogs to an undetermined date on the Wii U, Ubi has almost effectively forced me to get it on the PS4 or XBox One. My original plan was to get it on the U and I still might.

I've been doing my part and buying the U version of 3rd party games I'm interested in, but when they continually port over gimped versions of games, drop DLC support, out just outright delay games in favor of the other platforms, I find it harder and harder to find a reason to get the U version of anything outside of Nintendo published games.



dumedum said:

@BossBattles of course it's powerful enough. Unfortunately, it's a bone headed decision. Going back to primitive controller after the awesome Game Pad of City, Arkham series is taking a step down.



Lopezdm said:

@Marshi I agree, when was the last time someone bought a game after it got a score lower than a 8.0? Ign scored demon souls low because the review found it to be to hard.

Not to mention that most game reviewers have no business reviewing games as they have little idea what it take to make one.



JuleyJules said:

@Shroom_Muncher I'm not regretting my Wii U but I'm tired of games not coming to it. However, I think Nintendo needs to step it up and do something about this. For one thing 3 months between games like SM3DW to DKC:TF to MK8 is ridiculous! How do they expect to sell systems and attract 3rd party developers like that? They've got to release games like they do on 3DS and have 2 or so at a time or in the same month. After all on May 2nd TWO games are coming to 3DS from Nintendo! That never happens on Wii U but it needs to so while it sucks WB is not bringing this game to Wii U who can really blame them??



SphericalCrusher said:

That sucks. Maybe it will come though, but who knows. I'll have a PS4 or Xbox One at that time, to play it on. WiiU is still my first console of choice! I am glad it's the last Arkham game, although it looks awesome. I hate yearly releases. =/



JonnyN said:

Life just keeps getting better and better for Wii U owners. Sigh......



banacheck said:

I'm very happy it's an next-gen exclusive & not being held back by the PS3/Xbox360, cannot wait to play it especially as it's developed by Rocksteady. And for the first time you'll be able to drive the Batmobile, it not coming to the Wii U isn't surprising reslly.



TruenoGT said:

PC + Wii U this gen. Nintendo's games plus 90% of everything else without "next gen console" limitations. Live it, love it.



GunstarHero234 said:

@banacheck I know right driving the damn Batmobile around Arkham HELL YES!!! After this series I hope Rocksteady can develop a Superman series or X-Men series man I would flip like I just did earlier.



Superiorspider said:

Get hyped! P.S. Who would buy this on Wii U? Everybody would just be playing their average Donkey Kong instead of this masterpiece.



sdcazares1980 said:

It's starting to catch up here. The Wii U is same as the Xbox 360 and the PS3 in terms of hardware power. For those of you who thought otherwise before, here's definitive proof because it will only be out for the Xbox One, PS4, and yes, the PC.



Jazzer94 said:

So hyped for this game, pity about the lack of a Wii U version but it most likely would have been gimped in some way or another.



Dark-Link73 said:

To all of you claiming that it's because the Wii U's lack of power, I am starting to believe that it has nothing to do with the console's power (or lack of) nor even the sales. It's about the console's architecture. Allow me explain my theory.

As you all know (and in case you don't) the Wii U has a different architecture than the PS4 and the X1. The Wii U's architecture is like the PS360 which allowed for all those ports to be released during its first year of release. This allowed developers to create games for all three consoles with minimal variation for the Wii U (let's face it, off tv play and map/gadget display on the Gamepad is not much of a different to work on U vs.the PS360). Unfortunately, what Nintendo didn't count on (or knew but decided to ignore for the sake of having an affordable console) was on the PS4 and X1 using different architectures than their predecessors, thus making it hard (once again) for developers to simply port their games on Wii U.

Today's business model is about making the maximum return with minimal initial investment. The Wii U requires developers to have a dedicated team making games for it. This goes against today's business model. Now, you might say "but the Wii U is not selling, that's why developers aren't making games/DLC for it." That is partially true, however, let's take a look at the last generation of gaming.

The Wii was last generation's undisputed champion with over 100 million units sold in seven years. That's over 14 million consoles a year! Yet, the Wii didn't get the high profile titles like Batman, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and others. Not because the Wii didn't have HD graphics, after all Activision brought the CoD series to Wii without a problem, but because the Wii has a different engine than the PS360. If you think about it, Activision always had Treyarch making the CoD games while IW made the other consoles. That was because Treyarch created the modified CoD engine for Wii on WaW, so it was cheaper for Activision to just have Treyarch do it than IW start from scratch. The other studios/developers didn't want to invest extra money and resources to modify their game engines for the Wii. If Activision did it, there was no reason Ubisoft couldn't bring Assassin's Creed to Wii, or EA bring Mass Effect. It was about the extra time and money used to work separately on Wii vs PS360.

So unless Nintendo starts making consoles with the same architecture as its competitors, Nintendo is always going to be lacking full third party support generation after generation.



LittleIrves said:

I started Arkham Asylum on my 360 and was into it, but quickly lost interest. Lots of punchy-punching and then long cutscenes. The Detective stuff was neat. But it just didn't come together for me.

The Batman game we really need on Wii U? Sunsoft's NES game on VC.



Nik-Davies said:

I don't care at all that this isn't coming to the Wii U... ok, no, I suppose I car a little from a business perspective. But this was always going to be the game I was going to buy a PS4 for anyway. I'M SO EXCITED. ARKHAM CITY IS MY FAVOURITE GAME OF ALL TIME DDDDDDDDD



kereke12 said:

Sorry to say this. But this is one good reason why I Will Not Buy A Wii U. Because of stupid things like this.......Its annoying already...I don't get Why Nintendo just sits on there A** and not do anything. I'm mad. No wait I'm tired of it already !

Simply a very Angry Nintendo Fan Boy .



IronMan28 said:

@GunstarHero234 I'm not really criticizing the game, so much as saying Destiny doesn't interest me. Sorry if that came of as rude, but I'm just not interested in the game. I also realize it's done by the same guys who did "Halo," but I think they should branch out a bit. Yes, I get this logic can be applied a lot of places, but to me, more of the same isn't good in this case. I also realize people are upset about having to buy a Wii U over Bayo 2, but if the game were exclusive to either PS4 or Xbox One, few people would complain. Additionally, they could purchase games they might not think they want on Wii U, expand their horizons, so to speak. The difference between the people complaining and me is I plan on buying a new system and expanding my horizon by looking for other games on the console, unlike a lot of the closed-minded people on forums.

Edit: To be fair, on my OP I said it "looks like" a Halo clone, which doesn't mean it is one.

@rjejr I know this is a Nintendo site, but I still don't get how there is little focus on games coming to Wii U. Yes, on the retail side things are bad, which will be repeated until that situation changes; however, I find it disheartening there is a distinct lack of information on the deluge of Indie games coming to the Wii U. Have you read Nintendo Enthusiast's article on the topic? It's eye-opening and rarely covered on any site. Sure, there is a lot of bad news on Wii U, but there is still a good reason to buy one, and that part of the story is hardly covered (if ever).

@LegatoSkyheart,Yeah, let's cover one side of the story without covering the other. There are a ton of Indie games coming to Wii U, but that is placed in a different category to keep people's biases about Wii U alive. I realize they're not system sellers, but Indie games are games, regardless of their "Triple A" status.



AJWolfTill said:

Warner Bros and Ubisoft are pretty much the only Western developers who have been supporting the Wii U with pretty much everything they released so this is is a painful blow. Now that Ps3 and 360 are having their titles fazed out in favour of pushing content on their next gen counterparts the Wii U is going to be entirely reliant on exclusives. If Nintendo isn't rolling out major titles by the end of this year there will be nothing left on the system (except for awesome Indies).



gatorboi352 said:

@Lopezdm I've been saying this all along. So many fans want to bash 3rd parties for stiffing Nintendo, yet they don't even buy 3rd party games in the first place.



gatorboi352 said:

@Daisaku36 The sad reality is, while indie games are neat, they just don't sell systems. And frankly, a lot of people don't buy them either. You might, he might, she might. But the majority of people that game, buy consoles for the GTAs, the sports titles and the shooters. Then they trickle down and buy other AAA titles like Batman and Mass Effect as well. Indies are nice, but they should be the cherry on top for a gaming console. The lack of AAA retail releases on Wii U is unprecedented. No other console has been so irrelevant to 3rd parties since the Saturn.



TwilightV said:

Meh. Things will get better as soon as they realize XBox One performs worse.

...Oh, and I bought Arkham City at full price, so don't even try arguing with me.



TreesenHauser said:

Not really surprised, and quite honestly, I don't really care either. At this point I'm so used to Wii U missing out on third-party content that it doesn't phase me anymore.



dumedum said:

@GunstarHero234 But like I said, I don't mind buying the console just for one or two games. I would have bought a PS4 for this game. It's just that I don't want to play it on the crappy controller. Bayonetta fans won't have that problem. They'd be upgrading from an old gen controller to the awesome Game Pad.



gatorboi352 said:

@rjejr The real nail in Wii U's coffin will be when/if Call of Duty no longer gets ported. Even Wii had 5 call of Duties. If that title doesn't make it over, this system is dead.


"Meh. Things will get better as soon as they realize XBox One performs worse."

What does that even mean? Jaded much?



eaglebob345 said:

@Superiorspider People would buy it if Wii U is the only console they own, people like me. Donkey Kong has nothing to do with Batman, that was just a stupid statement.

@GunstarHero234 Why don't you people understand the difference between Bayonetta 2's situation and game like this one? Nintendo funded and published that game because no one else wanted to, including Sony. These third party MULTIPLE PLATFORM games are skipping the Wii U because of stupid stigmas, like what @Superiorspider said about Donkey Kong. Does that also mean Nintendo owners don't want games like Monster Hunter because of having Mario or Zelda?

I swear you people just come here just to bash the Wii U, like childish fanboys. If power and graphics mattered, games like Monster Hunter and Resident Evil would have never come to the Wii or 3DS. Regardless of what any of you think, it is fanbase that matters to third parties, that and idiots who suck up first day DLC and microtransactions like mindless drones. If you want to gloat about Sony fine, there is a sister site for that, doing it here makes you look like mindless fanboys.



SetupDisk said:

Actually it's coming out on pc and the a gaming pc seems like a much better value than a PS4 right now so only cusses at Rocksteady.



schizor said:

North America: 0.14m 60.9%

  • Europe: 0.07m 30.5%
  • Rest of the World: 0.02m 8.6%

Wii U black ops II sales. No Wii U owner even cares about these games so.
i don't think Call of Duty not coming to Wii U will be a big deal.



GunstarHero234 said:

@dumedum They don't want the damn gamepad and see that's the problem with this situation now why hardly any 3rd Parties titles isn't coming to the Wii U you and the majority of the community are obsessed with the gamepad and think every one of these developers suppose to develop on the pad fully which Nintendo themselves hardly didn't one thing creative for it yet.

Only Ubisoft and Rocksteady themselves develop fully on the pad and showed what it can do and sadly looking at Platinum Games developing it just less to me so sadly no I wouldn't buy a Wii U just for one title.



eaglebob345 said:

@gatorboi352 Call of Duty is all about the prettiest graphics. That's why they didn't have much of a fanbase on the Wii and won't have much of one on the Wii U.



ACK said:

Well, each Batman game has ultimately bored me to tears. Way overrated after you get over the feeling of being the bat.

And this is business, guys. Nothing more.



Kirk said:

This is where it starts...

The ridiculously loyal and stubborn Wii U FANS keep saying power/tech/specs/etc doesn't matter, as well as a bunch of other delusional crap, and in response I give you this and all the other examples like this which will only increase going forward.

When developers start properly moving onto the other next-gen systems, rather than developing many of their games to also run on current-gen systems like the Xbox 360 and PS3, you're going to see just how bad third party support for Wii U REALLY is and you're going to see why having a "current-gen" console that's basically a generation behind everyone else isn't a good thing, no matter how much you want to convince yourself it is.

Power/tech/specs/etc doesn't matter my f'n *ss.



GunstarHero234 said:

@eaglebob345 Your comment is a joke as much you fail calling me a "fanboy drone" because the fact of it is I have BOTH systems (Wii U/PS4) and I can buy this title whenever it comes out while you slump with your "only" console complaining to the internet.

"Why isn't it coming to my platform" I won't give a damn because it isn't my fault you don't like the other platforms and don't want to buy them.



TwilightV said:

@gatorboi352: Obviously it means once sales of the Xbox One versions of games pale in comparison to the PS4 versions they'll get their heads out of their backsides and either drop support for it or start developing for all consoles.



MikeLove said:


I believe he means that COD, love it or hate it, is the premier third-party blockbuster series right now.

Having that game pass over the Wii-U would be a very symbolic gesture, that if that game can't be successful on a Nintendo system, what other game stands a chance?



Gamer83 said:


That's one of the things I'm really happy about is it not being held back by PS3 and 360. Yes, it sucks for those who can't upgrade to the now current-gen right away but the game will always be there whenever those gamers do make the switch and at some point developers were going to move on to the new consoles.

Anyway, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing everything this game will have to offer. Not being able to drive the Batmobile in the previous Arkham games was really my only disappointment with them. Can't wait to see how Rocksteady works it in to the gameplay.



QuickSilver88 said:

@Shroom_Muncher i find it hard to believe you have played all the good content currently out for WiiU. I have 15 games purchased in 2013 and still havent played them all. Aso eShop has a lot of good content. I agree 3rd party sucks for WiiU but this is not surprising. Nintendo will get things cranked up on WiiU they always do....I think they will still be able to swing some exclusives and colaborations with Japanese 3rd parties. Iwata has said they are interested in aquiring assets. Really if you want multiplats you need a ps4/xb1 or pc. Any one of those with a WiiU makes a really great combo.



tebunker said:

Goto Nintendo new site for Nintendo news, sees a news item for product not announced for Nintendo system. How is this news? Yeah it sucks, hopefully there is a port, but are we going to see this everytime the WiiU gets passed up on an announcement because that's going to get annoying and is pointless.

Also as fans/gamers we need to stop worrying about what we aren't getting and focus on what we are getting. It takes too much energy to care about things I may never see. If it comes it comes.



eaglebob345 said:

@GunstarHero234 First off, the last paragraph was a general statement for ALL people complaining about Wii U and gloating about the PS4, so if the mindless fanboy drone shoe fits you, wear it.
Secondly, I can and just might buy a PS4 for KH3, since it probably won't be on the Wii U. Suggesting I can't get it is stupid. I choose to get systems for good games, not hype games.
Finally calling someone a joke just because you do in fact fit the mindless fanboy shoes makes you look like you are in denial.



fortius54 said:

I understand the disappointment from a business prospective. This is probably not a game I was going to get anyway. If I own a PS4 or X1, I probably won't pick it up either. The truth is, there isn't a shred of difference from Arkham Asylum to Arkham City. The games follow basically the same pattern.

I bought Asylum on the PS3 , and I have City for the Wii U. I honestly like the on the fly part of the Wii U, but ultimately, I got rather bored with the game story itself. I'm sorry that it's not coming for all of those fans.

I agree with a lot on here about the Wii U basically being a first party machine. I do think they would find some success in taking a we are a family console approach. Instead of trying to be all things to all gamers. I'd say push the family nature. Advertise like heck on Disney and Nickelodeon. Try to get second parties working on IP's that are gathering dust. Be kind to indies.

I think if they do that it will get them through this generation of consoles, albeit limping. They need to make a high octane system that will compete. Make it more traditional if you have to. Incorporate things like the gamepad as an add on. Start a archive subscription service. Then, I think they can get back on track.



GunstarHero234 said:

@eaglebob345 Great the facts come true you are jealous because I have my systems so the joke fits you perfectly because you still immaturely using the word fanboy which I don't see that fit for me probably you but like I said you only have a Wii U and in fact is don't want to buy the other consoles for a game you like so to use this BS excuse about "good and hype" games is a contradiction.

Batman Arkham Knight and Kingdom Hearts 3 is going to be a great titles regardless of your BS opinion and you just cross because they isn't coming to the Wii U and that's fact.



Heiki said:

I couldn't care less about Batman games anyway, but this is still a loss.
I love my Wii U and never get bored with it, but Nintendo should do something, really.
We have great games coming this year, like Mario Kart, Bayonetta and SSB, but that's about it. I don't think X is coming westside this year, so what else can we expect until then? I hope we have a Direct soon with HUGE announcements.



MasterGraveheart said:

Yes, but at this point I'm so jaded by /all/ third parties not named WayForward that I'm just not blowing a gasket anymore and sticking with Nintendo all the way now.



Wolfgabe said:

This hardly makes sense considering that Wii U got the last two Batman games and is getting Blackgate HD edition as well. WB should just let WB Montreal handle a Wii U version. They did a solid job on Arkham City and Origins Wii U version since from what I hear it was the least buggy and had the most steady framerate. They honestly should if they want to remain in good graces with the Wii U community



QuickSilver88 said:

@Dark-Link73 You are not far off in that Nintendo's architecture choices have been a problem, and this is not new. N64 going cartridge, GC going miniDVD, Wii going SD and motion controlls, and now WiiU.....In addition to it being PPC and not x86 the other challenge is no Hard drive, which causes a lot of difficulties for devs buioding around x86. Good 3rd party can be done for WiiU as there are a few great examples like NFSMW, AC4,Rayman and DeusEX. So it can be done right, but the problem is even when it is done right like the games mentioned, no one buys them. I bought many of my WiiU games new but in the budget bin. Nintendo says they want to win back the 'core' gamer but it will take more time and effort than they have been able to muster. Most old school gamers are pro Nintendo, but also own multiple systems. But younger 'core' gamers have been more raised on ps and xb. If Nintendo really wants a larger audience they do need more mature content, more blockbuster content. I think games like Bayonetta are a move in the right direction but they need more games like that to attract that type gamer. I am not sure they will ever do that, but I do think they are moving slowly in the right direct. Iwata said they are going to a shared 'platform' so they are going to make things easier for development in the future and I think if anyone does consumer virtual reality gaming first it will be Nintendo



Rafie said:

How unfortunate for Wii U fans. I was getting it on the PS4 anyway, but still I would have hoped Nintendo fans would be able to join in on the fun. The trailer was AWESOME by the way. So they are finally concluding the Arkham series. I'm happy...very happy!



eaglebob345 said:

@GunstarHero234 Learn how to use punctuation. Periods, commas, semicolons, etc., please. That grammar is horrible, what are you six? You can't talk about immaturity with the grammatical level of a first grader, it make you sound off.
The phrase fanboy, or word if you want to call it that, goes for all three console makers. I am a Sony fan and a Nintendo fan and I look forward to owning some games on both systems. I am not going to buy a system to brag, like you seem to have done, because that is what fanboys do.

Of course Arkham games and Kingdom Hearts games are going to be good, they were made that way, however, Arkham games will not get ME to buy a system. Only Kingom Hearts, Pokemon, and Monster Hunter have that effect on me.



SparkOfSpirit said:

I see no real reason to get anything beyond a gaming PC yet with my Wii U. I'm honestly not sure why more people don't just get a gaming PC.



GunstarHero234 said:

@eaglebob345 As long you understand me you don't need them all the time on the internet grammer nazi.

But seriously though a "fanboy" which in your since and mine doesn't exist because you going to have people gloat over whatever they buy from cars to shoes so why use this excuse to put me down because all this does is make you look more like a complete fool.

And I agree with with your last paragraph at least but you have to understand this you comment me first by calling me a "mindless drone fanboy" which is again a joke but you can worry about my posts how I type like i'm 6 really how "immature" you can get.



Luffy said:

WiiU 5.8M sold
PS4 5.8M sold
X1 3.4M sold

ok i own an X1 and WiiU so i dont care but. If im a dev i would want my game in the system with the largest install base. Which currently as of Feb 22 is the wiiU and ps4. X1 sold well out the gate but now is in a wiiU type sale slump with only 40,000 units sold a week.



Luffy said:

oh and nothing beats the game pad for batman games tbh. so this does suck a bit.



eaglebob345 said:

@GunstarHero234 You are the one who started it all by not knowing the differenc between Bayonetta 2's situation compared to MULITPLE PLATFORM games. If Bayonetta fans don't understand, it is because they have a fanboy bias against Nintendo (not saying you do, just the port begging haters). I didn't force your hand, you felt as though you fit the mindless fanboy drone, so you struck back. I told you it was do directed straight at you, because it was not.



Mizzah_Tee said:

Don't fret just yet Nintendo fans. This does not mean the game is not coming to Wii U. Call of Duty: Ghosts and Watch_Dogs among other multiplats didn't get confirmed for Wii U until the last hour. Nintendo has their exclusive style of NDA's and don't want some games announced for their console until they figure out their own release dates. So hang on FOOS.



banacheck said:


Rocksteady make's the best Batman game's easily, I'm really looking forwards to the new gameplay features & the Batmobile. Have you seen the trailer yet? It's looking brilliant..



Hy8ogen said:

@Kirk Power doesn't matter one bit. It's the extra work the devs needs to put down to make a Wii U version due to different architecture. If the Wii U is a profitable platform, the Devs will surely developed for it. But as far as I can tell, most Wii U owners don't give a cr@p about 3rd party tittles. Just look at the horrible sales figures.

It doesn't really help that Nintendo is also very stingy with 3rd party devs. So yeah, power doesn't really matter. To dumb it down to your level, the PS2 was the weakest console in that generation and it basically dominated. If power is the utmost important, all the devs should focus on PC and abort consoles all together.



GunstarHero234 said:

@eaglebob345 Same as you bro Batman isn't coming to the Wii U so the hand was struck the fact of it is which again your own community won't buy the other platforms for this title as the same for the Bayonetta community won't buy a Wii U.

So both sides got some kinda bias in them and would rather complain that why isn't this or that game on my platform than saving up some money and buy their system of choice.

So sadly lets just end this ok because in reality of this argument isn't doing nothing to change the situation what's already in.



Gamer83 said:


Yeah, saw the trailer and loved it. Been following the news on this game since I started seeing stuff popping up on PushSquare this morning. I'm super hyped for this one, can't put it into words honestly. I love the Arkham games, especially the Rocksteady ones.



gatorboi352 said:

@schizor "No Wii U owner even cares about these games so.
i don't think Call of Duty not coming to Wii U will be a big deal."

Um, I've personally purchased every Call of Duty to come to Wii and Wii U. So clearly you are wrong, and it would be detrimental in my continued support of Nintendo platforms.


EXACTLY what I am saying. THANK YOU for having some perspective. More than I can say about some others around here with their heads in the sand.



ThreadShadow said:

Bizarre, as this is a "Batman" game, and from what I hear little kids love "Batman"! So not putting out a version on what I presume Warner Bros assumes is a machine for little kids, is quite a strange decision.



SecondServing said:

The Wii U is a weak console. There is nothing more to be said. Don't buy a Wii U expecting third-party support and good online play. Get a Xbox or PS4 if you want good third-party support and good online play.



SecondServing said:

@jhell They can't help it. The want to make a NEXT-GEN Batman game. The Wii U is as powerful as a smartphone. Blame Nintendo for being idiotic expecting third-party support with 2GB of RAM in 2014.



eaglebob345 said:

@GunstarHero234 We are not port begging, bragging about games we have, or angry that it is on a competitor's system. We are made that third parties are shafting Wii U owners on games because of stupid stigmas enforced by PS and XB fanboys, also some companies like EA and Bethesda but that is a story for another time. Them begging Bayonetta 2 is like us begging for their exclusives like Infamous or Halo, it is that simple.



AlexSora89 said:

Okay, I'll say my piece. Nintendo can't do anything at all about this generation, hardware-wise. They'll have to rely on their usual strategy: focus on games. That said, Ninty will also have to really, really step it up next time, and come up with a piece of hardware that's just as powerful as whatever the Xbox One's and the PS4's successors will be. If it's even more powerful, we'll have even more to giggle about.



Senario said:

Might have considered getting it for my brother since he is a fan, but cant because he cant run it on his pc. That and it isn't even on PS3 so I can't send it to him either. I didn't really expect them to drop support for the 80 million users each for PS3 and 360 so early. There are very few games I do play on them nowadays but two are still scheduled for release like Blazblue and maybe Persona.

@SecondServing you don't know anything about RAM and how it works or how a gpu works. Just because it has 2gb of ram doesn't mean it is only as powerful as smartphones as that is a false conclusion from ignorance about the tech. If I remember correctly, the Wii U uses the gpu for processing so a lot of ram really isn't needed. Not a lot of games really need a lot of ram, just the ability to render things properly through the gpu and good optimization from the game makers.



SkywardCrowbar said:

Not looking to get into any kind of debate about this, I'd just like to express me deep disappointment in WB and Rock Steady for not bringing this game to Wii U. Wii U won't have much smaller of an install base by the time this game comes out (especially after Mario Kat 8 brings in a lot of new Wii U owners) but it's just being overlooked yet again.

I don't want people yelling at me about how "it's Nintendo fans fault" or any of that. I'm just a huge Batman fan who happens to only own a Wii U, so I'm sad.



IronMan28 said:

@gatorboi352 I know they don't move systems, but Indie games are still games, which is against the general perception. Nowhere do I assert the Wii U gets support from most major publishers, but failing to acknowledge Indies is bad business. Pretending Indies don't exist is just as toxic as pretending the Wii U gets the same level of support from bigger third party publishers. People like to pretend Indie games don't exist, even if they don't move units, they're still games coming to a system that purportedly has no prospects on the third party front. Few major sites cover the amount of games coming to Wii U from Indies, and that's part of the problem. NL covers the games individually, but rarely writes articles highlighting the strengths of Indie games on Wii U. Yes, there is a lack of a "unified account system" that will be harped on until it's a reality. That is important, but it still doesn't mean the games aren't there. People still need to realize third party games are coming to Wii U, and some interesting ones at that, just not many from bigger publishers.



GunstarHero234 said:

@eaglebob345 So "We" as in Wii U fans come off it the only real reason why "HALF" of the titles isn't coming is because half of your community hardly buy them. Nobody shaft you except some of the titles but the majority of them are doing business which don't have a eye on Nintendo systems for that business so why blame PS/MS fanboys over the 3rd Parties developers opinions?

"We are not port begging, bragging about games we have, or angry that it is on a competitor's system"
All three that you comment in this sentence in fact a BIG contradiction.



HawkeyeWii said:

Well I have a reason to get a PS4 now. I would litterally buy a PS4 solely for this game.



ghall said:

While the 3rd party situation on the Wii U isn't helping, I'm sure the fact that it's not coming to the PS3 or 360 factors in as well. Any games that aren't coming out for those consoles don't have a chance in hell of showing up on the Wii U sad to say.



XCWarrior said:

@Dark-Link73 Very nice points. I'm glad to hear the WiiU and 3DS' successors will have the same architecture.... but that doesn't do us any good this generation.

Just be thankful we have Unity compatible with WiiU. Otherwise it would get really ugly.

Sad that most developers can no longer make games they want, only ones that will maximize profitability by using high profile IPs and only slightly tweaked gameplay for each year's release.



Dave24 said:

Why is this even news?

Although, I guess it makes sense - I haven't heard of it and now thanks to that I know for what to wait for! And the reason to buy PS4.

Going back to Tropical Freeze - my god it's amazing!



Jaz007 said:

@Lopezdm Why does that mean they have no business reviewing games? They write the reviews to help other people who have little idea what goes into making a game decide if they want the game. According to that logic I have no business telling my friends if a game is good or bad because I don't know what goes into making one. You can still tell if a game is good or bad (in your opinion) without knowing what goes into making one.



unrandomsam said:

@HawkeyeWii There is not that much that is bad in them really. Wouldn't say they are worse than say Batman Returns which was a 12 in the Cinema. (15 on video).



Kirk said:


"Power doesn't matter one bit."

You keep believing that fantasy.

The less powerful hardware and tech in the Wii U is a integral part of that "different architecture" in this case. The two things exist in unison and anyone with a brain knows that.

The Wii U is a system out of time, both in terms of graphics power and architecture, and what you see in this article is the result and it will only get worse as this generation moves on.

It can't achieve the graphics the other next-gen consoles can and for developers to even attempt to do something similar they additionally have to force their current-gen-centric engines and whatever into an outdated architecture design so it's even less likely they'll get the graphical quality they are most certainly looking for in their new games.

Additionally; the Wii U will more than likely never be any more "profitable" than the likes of the 3DS and most developers have still chosen to develop games for Vita over 3DS, there was an article on Nintendo Life recently that showed this in cold hard stats, so the Wii U basically has no chance of seeing anywhere near decent third party support at this point.

You can keep making excuses but the simple truth is that despite a couple of interesting gimmicks Nintendo made a lot of bad choices with the hardware and tech of the Wii U and this ridiculous lack of support from third parties is a direct result of this.

The hardware/tech is absolutely important and when I say "power" I mean the whole system in that regard, including graphics specs.

The Wii U is under powered and under featured and this is what you get.



IronMan28 said:

@Excep7ional thank you very much. She's my first child.

I plan on buying another system, but I still don't agree with posting "X game is not coming to Wii U" articles. In previous generations, if a game wasn't coming to a system we owned, nobody spoon-fed that negativity to us. Yes, it's Nintendo-related news, but we can see what game isn't coming to our system on our own. I rarely see articles about games not coming to PS4 anywhere on the web, even if that is perceived to be infrequent. Nobody gives a crap about Titanfall skipping other systems, but as soon as Bayo 2 is mentioned, fanboys come out in droves.



unrandomsam said:

@Daisaku36 It has indie games but not the interesting ones.

Recently I have been playing -

Ultionus A Tale of Petty Revenge / Little Racers Street / Jets n Guns Gold / Saturday Morning RPG / Vanguard Princess / Velocity Ultra / Oniken / Tiny Barbarian DX / Blood of the Werewolf.

That is ignoring the best of the best ones -

Rogue Legacy
Super Meatboy
Mark of the Ninja
Hotline Miami

Of which zero are on the Wii U - one if you count La Mulana. (La-Mulana is probably in the last catagory but that is only on the Wii not the Wii U.)

Better to have less and make sure they are actually good.



DESS-M-8 said:

@Shroom_Muncher I own it on both an the wii u version is better. Looks the same on both, plays the same on both. Wii I version comes with Harley's revenge and it has off tv play. A like for like port with off tv port wins 100% hands down every time.



dumedum said:

@GunstarHero234 Nintendo used it plenty, but it's best suited for action/adventure/open world games so third party needed to step in and do it. The fact they don't realize how awesome and superior Arkham City: AE was and what a step down this is, is sad, and shows how crappy the gaming industry is. People prefer to use old gen controllers and not experience awesomeness. Because they're stupid.



Hy8ogen said:

@Kirk Again, according to your logic all of us should just get a Gaming PC yeah? Lets leave innovation and gaming experience out of it. All we need is POWARRRRRRRRRR!! What are you Jeremy Clarkson?

As of now the Wii U is the only console out there that offers a different experience from the 7th gen like it or not. However that does not dismiss the fact that the Wii U is selling very poorly and nobody is to blame but Nintendo themselves. Nintendo is still kinda stuck in their own mind set, although it is the same mindset that got them where they are today.

What I'm saying is, Nintendo should pay more attention to 3rd party Devs and not the other way around if they want to make the Wii U sell more. IF Nintendo dropped the Wii U tomorrow and came out with a machine which is much more powerful than the other 2 competitors, with the same mindset they are still going to end up just like the Wii U.

Software sells hardware, not the other way around.

Just my 2cents.



Kirk said:


That's just a stupid line of reasoning.

I'm not even approaching suggesting we should all just go with PCs because they are more powerful than consoles. PCs are a totally different experience to a video games console. All of this is relative to the other consoles.

Developers are creating their brand new cutting edge games and engines with these new consoles specifically in mind (Xbox One and PS4), both in terms of specs and architecture, and the Wii U falls short in both regards. It's not powerful enough to achieve the results they want, which is immediately going to make them question if it's worth trying to cut back their games to fit on the Wii U, and it's not convenient enough to just down port games across because of it's different architecture, which basically requires a whole other dev approach. All of this is directly related to everything about the machine basically being under-spec and "outdated" or of the old paradigm. Not only that but the totally abysmal sales are just one more reason the system isn't appealing to most developers. As well as a bunch of other reasons too.

Hence most third parties are simply ignoring the system.



Joetherocker said:

Well, looks like it's time for me to give in and save up for a PS4. Hoped I wouldn't miss out on a bunch of stuff by sticking with Nintendo this time around, but it's already too late, it seems.



eichs22 said:

I'm severely disappointed in this. I just hope my pc will be able to run it ok when I do inevitably play it.



GunstarHero234 said:

@dumedum "Because they're stupid" really so people buy their system of preference because of "old gen controllers" profound sadness. I rather play with the "Wii U pro controller" rather than the gamepad so i'm stupid?



dumedum said:

@GunstarHero234 you're not stupid. But... misguided. J/k though, it's just an opinion. I love the game pad.
@ThreadShadow it's very strange indeed. I always assumed that Arkham Asylum didn't come to the Wii solely because of power, and when that changed with Wii U, they immediately came over. Maybe it is about power after all (thus not coming to 360/ps3) and not about sales at all. Maybe the sales of Arkham games are good enough. Hence why the Blackgate is coming to Wii U. But here it's just the technical issue. I wish they'd come and say it - "we want to bring the game to the Wii U, we are happy with the support and our Wii U fans. But this game is too strong for current gen and for Wii U to handle", so the reason is more clear.



Senario said:

@Kirk To be fair, it is generally more of less the same experience as consoles. You can plug your pc into a big screen tv. Plug in some controllers that are compatible. And play most of the same games whether online or offline. I suppose the difference might be indie games or pc only games have a big presence but that is like any platform exclusive. Oh and steam sales, loads of steam sales.




I'm not sure how I feel about a batman game that doesn't have the joker in it. I know I will end up getting an XBOX ONE when this comes out, but the Wii U will always be my main console.

You just can't beat them ninty games



unrandomsam said:

@Daisaku36 Gunlord is listed as a beat em up with 8 bit inspired graphics. Is good though (I have a Dreamcast port of it).

(It is a port of a Neo Geo indie game and it is more like Turrican).

Blood of the Werewolf is really good (Never knew that was coming to the Wii U).
Angry Video Game Nerd Adventures the checkpoints are so close together it defeats much of the point of it for me.

Lots of them I have tried and not thought much of. I would be interested in a similar list which didn't contain ports.



Kirk said:


They're still not close enough, in multiple ways, that a PC is considered a natural alternative to a new console for most end customers.

Most entertainment consumers still see a console and a PC as two totally different and separate things and that's because from an average entertainment consumers perspective they actually are.

PCs are becoming and more like consoles every day and visa versa but as of now they are still two totally separate product categories and most people still understandably see them as such.



Hy8ogen said:

@Kirk You're the one who's stupid my friend. Titanfall is coming to Xbone but not PS4(which is more powerful??). Bayonetta is coming to Wii U but not the other 2(which is more powerful??). Base on these facts alone, you're whole stupid argument is already debunked.

The truth is this, if there is money to be made the Devs will work around it. If there isn't they will simply give BS excuses. Stop fooling yourself and others about all these power nonsense. Again, in case you have incapability in reading properly, the PS2 is the weakest and it sold the most in that generation. According to your theory the PS2 should have sunk. As of now the 3rd party devs favor the PS4 and Xbone because they believe their games will sell well on those platforms, and you know what? They probably will! As for the Wii U, look at those abysmal 3rd party tittle sales. Those numbers alone is enough to discourage the devs from bringing their games to the platform.

The Xbone and PS4 is basically a gimped gaming PC with nice looking shells with x86 architecture. Like @Scenario said, hook a Gaming PC+High end gamepad and you basically can experience the games just like on Xbone and PS4.

Why don't we do that? Because some games are only available on the consoles and also multiple other reasons such as ease of use for the common consumer etc.



rjejr said:

@Daisaku36 - Re: lack of Wii U eShop game news - "but there is still a good reason to buy one"

I just dont see eShop games as EVER being a reason people buy consoles. Many of the eShop games are available on Steam and the PS3 - a bunch of them are on sale this week like Castlestorm - and others are hardly better than "app" games that I play free on my tablet, including Castlestorm.

Yes, Wii U owners (myself included) will be getting several games worth playing the next couple of months, but I don't see them as a reason for somebody to spend $300 on a new console. Not when PS4 and X1 are getting infamous 2nd Son, Titanfall, Batman and Watch_Dogs is still on the "wait and see" list.

This is the only Nintendo website I frequent, so I dont now what the others are covering, but yesterday was very 3DS heavy, today seems better, though to your point mostly bad news.



Senario said:

@Kirk Maybe perception is the key here since basically a PC can access all of the entertainment functions a console can and then some. Youtube, netflix, hulu, amazon, TV watching (tv tuner. Most pc users don't do this cause they already have a tv.), ect ect. I suppose to me and most of my friends it was a natural progression with new consoles being mini PCs and PC gaming on the rise with popular games such as league of legends or Dota that are only on pc. As well as steam's success.



IronMan28 said:

@unrandomson I haven't tried out Gunlord, I think I'll get it on Wii U. Once again, that they're ports may not help a lot, but the content is still there. I haven't played a good amount of the games on that list and I doubt I'm in the minority. Yes, in retail Wii U might not be doing well, but even with ports, the Indie selection is stacking up nicely.



vonseux said:

How long thid arkhan séries os Young tô last? The last one has already put the formula tô infinite boredon. I das Kind of hoping a new concept for future Batman games.



Kirk said:


Did you bash your head or something before writing that post?

Those games aren't coming to the other systems because they are exclusives.

There's money to be made on 3DS and yet devs are choosing the Vita over it, despite the 3DS having a much bigger user base and consistently higher sales figures.

Some developers just want to make games for what they consider the most compelling and appealing console and right now that's not the Wii U.

Even if Wii U was the clear market leader it still wouldn't be getting the majority of the important third party support imo. You want some proof of that...I give you Wii.

Why didn't the Wii get the best third party support by far last gen...because it was too inconvenient for most developers to cut down their shiny new games to run on the totally under powered and feature lacking Wii so they simply didn't bother.

Same goes for Wii U too (lacking power/tech/specs as well as crap sales, and more besides, are all barriers for third parties who might have otherwise considered the system).



TySoN_F said:

Ah I'm alright with that. I have Arkham Origins for the Wii U (and hopefully will get Arkham City, a game I adored on the Xbox). But I'm not too surprised they're deciding to go with the PS4 and Xbox One, two obviously superior consoles.

It's not big deal to me! Might finally give me a reason to get either consoles.



IronMan28 said:

@rjejr Now we're getting ports, but there will be more exclusives to buy a Wii U for. Even if they're available other places, games are available on Wii U. I'm not asserting it will necessarily be the number one selling point (eShop games) but the content helps bolster the lineup. There are a good number of excellent exclusives on Wii U, and if someone is looking at the console, eShop games are still a consideration. The major point has always been there is no content coming to Wii U, which is debatable. When someone brings up X game coming to the console, they'll focus on it being available somewhere else. Multiplatform games on other consoles don't seem to hinder sales, so why is this the case with Wii U?
I will admit there hasn't been all positive news regarding Wii U, as with anything, but there are still reasons to be positive. Output can be faster, and I admit this like anyone else with a brain, but the games are coming.



Kirk said:


To geeks and nerds they are "basically the same". To the average consumer the experience is entirely different.

As a game designer, computer programmer, 2D/3D artist/animator, video producer, graphic designer and just core gamer etc, but not a blind geek, I can tell you there is a big difference between the two experiences. Once is still fairly simple and convenient, all things being relative, and the other is still a bit of a convoluted mess and pain in the *ss for the most part.

When PCs ACTUALLY are like consoles then you'll see a large majority of people choosing them over consoles for their home entertainment experiences.

Until then...



Hy8ogen said:

@Kirk Oh dear lord...let me dumb it down to your level. How did these companies get 3rd party exclusives? Because the console has the highest power? No? Oh of course!!! MONEY?! DING DING DING. It's all about profits.

The Wii is clearly a whole different example. The market is was marketed to is Kids and Grandma. Even my baby cousin can see that. Why waste time on the Wii when you already know it won't SELL?? PROFIT AGAIN HELLO?? The same reason why Japanese Devs don't bother with the Xbox.

Dev choosing Vita over 3DS? HAHAHAHAHA!! LOL! Oh my this made me laughed so hard. Troll spotted guys. Keep up the good work bud.



Kirk said:


I like how you're kinda going off on a tangent.

It's totally irrelevant that each console has secured paid exclusives when discussing the issues the Wii U has in terms of power/specs/tech/architecture that are putting many developers off creating games for it and supporting it in general.


Reality = 3DS has 43.2 million sales vs PS Vita with 7.5 million and yet only 1.90% of developers are developing for 3DS vs 7.47% developing for Vita.

But I guess ignorance really is bliss.



element187 said:

"have been based on the PS3 or 360 instalment, given that Nintendo's console is a closer match in terms of technological power to those systems than it is to recently-released "next gen" platforms."

What would power have to do with it? The Wii U is closer to feature set of the xBone and PS4 than it is to PS360... The Wii U will be able to handle anything they can throw at it in 720p. The same thing effects/render that can be displayed at 1080p on the PS4 should have no trouble at all at 720p on the Wii U. Both use the same identical OpenGL 4.3 level of effects, shaders, tesselation, displacement mapping, etc.

This idea that power is what is holding the Wii U back is nonsense. It does exactly what it was designed to do, which is 720p gaming.



Hy8ogen said:

@Kirk This is going to be my last reply because I have better things to do.

That poll is only for NA devs only. There is a place called "The World"? Come on buddy don't be so blind, how many games are there for the Vita and the 3DS? You don't even need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.

Also I won't be surprised most of the games they are planning for the vita are just watered down 8th gen games. Mark my words.

Still, nice try though.

Devs are favouring Vita, hah man that made my day.




Don't really care. I could play it on my PC if I wanted to. Sucks for Batman fans I guess, but the games are overrated.



Kirk said:


Of course...The situation is OBVIOUSLY going to be different across the rest of the world.

I bet you the Wii U has ten times as many third party developers in Europe and Japan working on games than the Xbox One and PS4 and OBVIOUSLY the 3DS has twenty times as many third party developers in Europe and Japan making games for it over the Vita...

Fantasy != Reality.

Until you have any numbers to support the assertion that the third party situation isn't similar in Europe and Japan then the US figures are the best example we have of what's actually happening in Reality.

Basically, leading in sales clearly doesn't automatically mean you'll be leading in third party support just as leading in power doesn't mean you'll see the most third party support but the Wii U is losing BOTH the sales and power/tech/spec/features battle (as well as quite a few other battles)...Hence why it's completely and utterly losing the third party support war.

That's the simple truth of it from where I'm sitting.



Cia said:

If Wii U is underpowered, then why come it's games looks exactly like the games in Ps4Box? Also, which one looks better: a painting from Rembrandt or a painting from Bosch? Seriously, anyone comparing things like this lacks common sense. Cartoony games have already peaked in terms of graphics (and most of the Wii U:s exclusives are cartoony). And about the game mechanics: SM3dWorld has more mechanics in a few stages than most of the "current game" games usually. How do we even define underpowered in this day and age? The amount of components under the hood of the console is not a valid argument, if you can't really see the difference anywhere. And yeah, my eyes are working normally. P.S. GTA V looks better and has more complicated physics than anything released for these current gen machines.

This answer is not for you alone, but for anyone who still lives in that senseless belief that Wii U:s power have got anything to do with actual reality.



JustinH said:

I loved Arkham City but these games just keep coming out every six months. I can't make myself care.

Sucks to hear but I'll consider the PC build, maybe.



Dark-Link73 said:

@XCWarrior Thanks. Nintendo needs to make their consoles (at the core) like the other two (without compromising innovation) in order to stop giving excuses to developers for not making games on Nintendo consoles.



burninmylight said:


The Wii U version is fine. I never had any problem with framerates, but the game would occasionally freeze for a few seconds when gliding around the environment in order to load new zones, which I found to be a relatively minor issue.

Also, not only do you get an offscreen map, quick item switch and off-TV play on the Wii U, but you also get free DLC already packed on the disc.



JustinH said:

@Nik-Davies And less than six months since two other games in the series, not made by Rocksteady, were released.

WB Montreal did a pretty good job with the Arkham City port to Wii U, so either they're legitimate or they're not.




I've said this before and I'll say it again

We now accept that 3rd parties are not in nintendo's corner at the moment, so it's NOW that nintendo need to make the best of a bad situation, how ?

Hide the negatives and accentuate the positives, the Wii U cannot compete with sony and microsoft when it comes to graphics and 3rd party games, so why try. But nintendo's own games are the best around and they make games sony and microsoft can only dream of putting out, the Wii U is also the most innovative console out there, has backward compatibility, free online, and they should start bolstering some second party exclusives like they did with bayonetta 2.

Hide the negatives, accentuate the positives



mnewzo said:

Oh he'll no I'm not buying a ps4 for that. Even though I love the Batman Arkham games. Why couldn't it come to PS3 and Xbox 360 argh



rbmoura85 said:

@Kirk This game not coming to Wii U has to do with install base, not with power...

Theres no game that came to the ps3 that could not have come to the Wii.



TonyCrispy said:

I thought this was for the X1 only! It said it on the announcement trailer and there was no ps4 in it either.



Midayle said:

I will probably get this game when it drops to the $5 on steam. I got Rayman Legends WiiU over the PC version because the WiiU version was the definitive version.

Even if this game came out the WiiU, I do not think it would be better than the PC version.



Marshi said:

@dumedum I feel EXACTLY the same. I wish nintendo would have the balls to film an ad of a gamer playing mario or assassins creed while on the toilet!



Senario said:

@Kirk Wow, you figure out how to make everything combative even when there isn't anything to argue about. Calling me a blind geek and using your background in games to say you are just more credible though it has no bearing on the conversation. There are plenty of companies that do make pre built gaming PCs and even if they aren't to the quality of a custom build they are sufficient for some and decently cheap considering there are no online fees. That said, gaming PCs will only get cheaper and with graphics clearly hitting a plateau where you cannot distinguish better graphics...PC is already in a position where they are a platform with all of the same features or at the very least they soon will be the superior option.

And I'll just throw this out there. I would never buy your game because of your attitude.



GraveLordXD said:

@Kirk for someone who is supposedly in game development you don't have a clue to what you are talking about
I'm fully convinced that you're crazy so I'll just ignore you from now on



belmont said:

@Superiorspider I didn't think I would like the Superior series however it has me hooked. It is time though that Peter should come back since Superior started become somewhat boring and I am glad they are returning to Amazing. Also @turtlelink stated a FACT!

@SparkOfSpirit @Senario There are two problems with gaming PC's. Firstly you need to buy stuff for them every year or so with a cost maybe more that PS4. Secondly you can't play Final Fantasy 15 or randon j-rpg or j game on it.

@Hy8ogen I have a Vita, it is slowly becoming my favourite gaming platform and, including PSP and PS1 classics, I may have more than 100 games. Most with the Vita feel the same and buy a lot of games. Vita has low hardware but big software sales that are off the usual charts since they are mostly digital.

@Dark-Link73 I have thought too what you stated but after reading an article from an unknown developer that claimed that porting PS3 games to Wii U was not so easy I sort of changed my mind. Seems that Wii U has a similar architecture to PS3 but is somewhat more GPU based while PS3 is way more CPU based.

@element187 I don't think it is that easy. Even X1 is not capable of playing some PS4 games on 1080. Wii U has different architecture and massive 3D open world games need, except for graphics, other things like better AI and more that next-gen consoles are more capable of producing, see Killzone for example. This may be the way FF15 become a next-gen title.

As for Batman I will surely get this game sometime. I liked all the previous games on the series and I am a huge comics fan.



JaxonH said:

Get used to it guys. Unless you just started playing Nintendo games within the last year or so, you already know we haven't had mainstream AAA support for the last 3 generations of consoles. The multiplats on Wii U thus far were a nice change of pace, but, they didn't sell enough and the trial run of support is coming to an end.

I know it sucks thinking what you won't be getting- but, I choose to focus on what we WILL get. The games that don't come to other systems. The games I bought a Wii U for. Masterpieces like DKC Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D World, and Pikmin 3. No, we're not getting multiplats (surprised we got any at all tbh), but we ARE getting Mario Kart 8. We ARE getting Smash Bros 4. We ARE getting Bayonetta 2. We ARE getting Monolith Soft's X. Wii U is made for exclusives. Games you can't play anywhere else. But, if you absolutely can't miss these kinds of games, I invite you to join those of us who own more than one console, and play everything. I know I will be.



Spoony_Tech said:

@rbmoura85 If thats the case then why not make the game for the 160 plus million PS360 owners?! I don't care if the Wii U had 50 million units sold, all third party companies know only thing that sells on Nintendo is 1st party games. I'm sure between the 2 games already out on the U they maybe have sold 100,000 copies. I don't think Nintendo can ever win back the 3rd parties.



JaxonH said:

And no, I wouldn't buy a Wii U for just one game either. Good thing it's got about 35 good games right now, each and every one sitting on my shelf! Oh, and some of them the best games I've ever played in my life.

Buy a Wii U for one game? No. Thank goodness it's got dozens!



Skyfox2000 said:

@JaxonH You know when I bought my Wii U I thought that I could get all my first and third party games on one system. I Was Wrong!



JaxonH said:


Ya, that would be nice, but never gonna happen. Gaming is divided. You can get 3rd party games on Sony and MS, and you can get the slew of Nintendo greats on Nintendo. Gotta pick the system for the games you prefer most, or buy two consoles. Maybe one day in a future utopia, me and you can only buy one console for all our gaming needs. But I don't think that's gonna happen in my lifetime, tbh. But that's ok with me. It's just money. So I shell out a couple hundred bucks for an extra console. Only have to do it every 6-8 years, so it's a total non-issue to me...



Dark-Link73 said:

@QuickSilver88 Yeah, that's another thing. I remember when the Wii U name was announced. As you mentioned, Iwata and Reggie stated that they wanted the "core gamer" to return to Nintendo; however, they don't seem to know what the so called core gamer want.

I know I'm going to get a lot of heat for this but, the "core gamer" is a brute who is not interested in innovation beyond better graphics and raw power. The core gamer Nintendo is trying to appeal doesn't want a double screen nor motion controls. Today's core gamer wants a big hard drive, more ram, more than 1080p graphics (even if the human eye might not be able to see much more beyond that), buttons, and dual sticks.

The core gamer is like the American Football fan. If you ask them what they want for the Sunday game, they'll tell you they want beer, chips, and streak. They don't want wine, caviar, and sushi for the game! Sadly, the core gamer is just like that.



DanMan82 said:

Awesome! Can't wait to get this game on my PC.

What?! You mean this isn't what I'm supposed to say? Well foohy!! XD

@Hernandez So one game not coming to the Wii U will make you sell your system? Just get a different system! Don't sell your Wii U!



Ernest_The_Crab said:

This is really odd...despite how combative a lot of the commentators are on this article and the amount of potential flame bait, where are all of the moderators?

I have not seen hide nor tail of them in this article...

If this game is really on the UE3 it wouldn't be too difficult to port it in theory. It doesn't seem like it's an issue with install base either as it's skipping the 360 and the PS3. The game has been in development for 3 years as well, and I don't think they had the kits for the PS4/Xbone at the time so that would have meant they were originally slated for the last generation.

I wouldn't be too surprised if Sony and Microsoft (on two separate occasions obviously) paid them to avoid their last gen consoles and develop the game for their new machines. I'm not going to go into a conspiracy theory about underhanded screwing of Nintendo but it does seem like it was done to help promote sales of the new consoles. It could just be that Rocksteady lost any motivation to develop for any consoles in the last generation as a result (which of course the Wii U may have fallen under there in their eyes). Probably doesn't hurt that Nintendo doesn't really ask developers to develop for their consoles or have a reputation for contracting either.



boynerdrambling said:

well i had a feeling it wouldn't come to wii u but no ps3? screw that. looks like i won't be playing the game for a few years now. one exclusive does not justify $550 in my book



Doma said:

@rbmoura85 "Theres no game that came to the ps3 that could not have come to the Wii."

I disagree with your statement



JaxonH said:


I don't think he would have skipped Wii U. He said he wanted 1st and 3rd parties. So while yes, he does like his AAA multiplats, he also likes his Nintendo exclusives. At least with the Wii U you get SOME 3rd party games . With other consoles you get zero Nintendo games.



YT-SutibunDatsW said:

The last one came without multiplayer, if they gave us this one it may have came without an options menu xD jkjk im not worried, because i have a pc, but WHAT I TELL YOU NINTENDO!? HUH



Kirk said:


The Wii U is less powerful than the Xbox One and PS4 and this is beyond question or debate at this point (it basically always was). I'm using the term "under powered" to describe how being less powerful is going to cause issues for Wii U and a perfect example would be most third party developers not putting their new cutting edge games on the system because it's simply too much hassle having to downgrade and down-port them to the hardware.

This isn't about subjective tastes. It's about objective tech. The Wii U falls short of the competition when it comes to power/graphics/tech. You CAN already see the difference in power between the Wii U games and XB1/PS4 games, in many cases, and this will only become even MORE apparent as this generation moves on. At some point it will also be evident in more than just the graphics in terms of what you see purely aesthetically too, such as less enemies onscreen and smaller worlds with more loading between areas or more pop-in of geometry and textures etc (just random examples). The limitations are there and slowly but surely you will realize why they are actually quite a big deal, just as they were with Wii in many instances when it came to the quality of third party games running on Wii vs the same games running on the competition's hardware. Except...the Wii U won't be getting most new third party games anyway so it's almost a mute point that's sort of proven itself by the fact these games aren't even coming to system because of it's limited tech and dated architecture etc.


It has to do with LOTS of things and the Wii U's relative lack of power next to the competition is in FACT one of those things.


You might not like the way I say it* but I am correct. The average consumer, certainly not geeks like you and me who come into forums like this, in no way sees PCs and consoles as being anything like each other and as of right now they are perfectly justified in thinking that. Also; you and around 7 billion other people aren't buying my games so this isn't really shocking or upsetting to me.

*Note: I never said you were a blind geek. I simply said I wasn't a blind geek, as in I can see beyond my geekism and not be blinded to the actual real world as most other people live in it day to day, and that most average/normal consumers see things quite differently to how the geeks of this world usually see them. You just put two and two together.


Hey, whatever makes you happy.



PokeTune said:

And now we have the Nintendo fanbase turning on yet another company because they have a perfectly legit reason to not support the Wii U.



rjejr said:

@Daisaku36 - "Multiplatform games on other consoles don't seem to hinder sales, so why is this the case with Wii U?"

I don't think multiplat games "hinder" sales, and I think disc based multiplats help sales, but I don't think any eShop games help sales, 1st party, multiplats or exclusives. I just don't see a lot of people spending $300 for a console to play Scram Kitty or Shovel Knight. And multiplats don't help when people are in stores looking at the large selection of PS3 games and Wii games and 3DS games and DS games and the really tiny section of Wii U games. It's bad b/c there is a small amount of retail games and it's bad when games like Batman and Watch_Dogs and Final Fantasy and other multplats don't come out on Wii U. And no matter how many eShop games there are, they aren't carried in Walmart, Target or Toys R Us. And I can't think of any eShop game I've ever seen a commercial for on TV, not even World of Goo. Maybe Luigi levels, but that's really DLC for Mario.

I've almost reached the point where I'm not even sure MK8 or SSB will increase Wii U Sales to Gamecube levels. People still have MK Wii - Nitneod is even still selling MK Wii packaged w/ the red $99 mini so it's still a new game for some people, and SSB is coming out on the better selling 3DS, so unless the Wii U version is noticeably better it isn't going to help. Wii U sales will get bumps, but I don't know if it isnt too late for prolonged and long term momentum.



DanMan82 said:

@Hernandez I didn't mean like it's the only game not coming to the Wii U. I meant that this game was a huge part of the reason you were selling it. Sorry I didn't make that clear above. There's still good first party stuff coming down the pike. Like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart.

Also, don't knock DK until you try it.

What I'm saying is, unless you have zero interest in 1st party Nintendo stuff, I would think twice before selling it, that's all.



TwilightOniAngel said:

already there making another batman game what happen to taking it slow and make the game better than origins, Are they really going to be like ubisoft making assassins creed every year just to make money wow this game i dont know there just making it for the money.



DanMan82 said:

@midnafanboy The picture above says this is the "finale" of the series. But I remember what happened when they said that about Halo.

I can't imagine them not continuing the series past this in some form like you suggested. It's too much of a money maker.



Skyfox2000 said:

@Spoony_Tech Yeah. Sigh. I Thought that I thought that they would change it around in 2013 I gave them a year to get third party support and they have made no effort. Nintendo's not even trying with the Wii U!



TwilightOniAngel said:

@DanMan82 yeah is not going to the final game there going to make it then after a few years they release another game to continue the story, and there you go a money maker was born. Thats my opinion maybe im wrong.



Obito_Sigma said:

Warner Bros, Capcom, and Sega are the only three companies that I would buy third-party retail titles on for my Wii U or 3DS. Everything else I decide based on whether I think that I might be interested or if it gets REALLY good reviews. If there is ANY company that I would be disappointed if they skipped over would be those three, because their games are too good to pass up. I would never own another game console, and I would only get it for PC if it's an exclusive or if it's too good to pass up, but I would really like to continue the chain and play this for Wii U like the past two (three if blackgate) editions.



SammytheSaiyan said:

Why is this news upsetting everyone? This series went down the drain last year. All Rocksteady is doing is re-releasing and rehashing the same garbage each and every year. You guys aren't missing out on anything. If you want this game on Wii U, then buy Batman: Arkham Origins or Batman: Arkham City and you will most likely get the same experience, except with a different story and a slight graphical downgrade.



JaxonH said:


I hear ya.

And just my 2 cents, Nintendo is trying with the Wii U. They really are. Here's the thing- N64, Gamecube and Wii got virtually zero multiplats from other systems. Wii got Call of Duty, but that's about it. And only because it sold 100 million units. Nintendo really made a good effort to get 3rd party AAA games on the system. And their efforts have brought quite a few AAA ports thus far (Batman Arkham City/Origins, Assassin's Creed 3/4, Mass Effect 3, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Darksiders 2, Injustice, Watch Dogs, etc). I mean, did you ever think you'd see any of those games on a Nintendo console? I know I didn't.

The thing is, if those kinds of games only average 100 thousand sold, there's just not enough reason to bring them. We had a really good, solid year of multiplats on Wii U (for a Nintendo console, of course), but if they're not selling enough, they're just not selling enough. It's not that Nintendo isn't trying. I mean first of all, it's not their games. They can't make anyone do anything. And I'm sure the 3rd parties who did bring games were very reluctant to do so. But they did. So you have to give Nintendo credit where credit is due.

Sometimes, it's not anyone's "fault" per se, it's just the way things are. Nintendo has no leverage to convince 3rd parties to bring games to the system as of this moment. They tried. Games were ported, and they didn't sell nearly close enough to warrant further support. It is what it is. We haven't seen AAA support on Nintendo consoles for almost 20 years now. It was a pleasant surprise to see 3rd parties bring some titles to Wii U (which was a first in decades), and I think we all had our fingers crossed that the titles would sell enough to make the support permanent, but that's just not how it worked out.

Which means, yes, you and I both will have to own another console if we want to play games like this. I'm already covered with PS4. But even if I wasn't, I wouldn't necessarily be upset about this. I mean, either way you're going to miss half the greatest games out there. You either buy a Wii U and see greats like DKC Tropical Freeze, Super Mario 3D World, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, X, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros 4, and do without AAA games. Or, you buy a PS4/X1 and see greats like Batman Arkham Knights, Witcher 3, Tomb Raider, Kingdom Hearts 3, FF15, and do without Nintendo games.

If you don't like Nintendo games at all, well, then I see where you went wrong. But if you DO like Nintendo games, then celebrate the exclusives Wii U has that you'll never see on PS/MS consoles. And if you must, buy a 2nd console and never miss a great game again, on either side of the fence.



unrandomsam said:

@Kirk It is not a dated architecture the architecture is newer than x86 and far more modern. Look at the specs of IBM's zEC12.

Apple will overtake both with the latest ipad within a very short period of time anyway.



hcfwesker said:

Not really concerned. The 3 games have the same gameplay mechanics, just with different story. They can lose my money if they chose so, and I'll just watch a Lets Play on youtube for the story.



Cia said:

Whatever. In your logic, Naughty Bear is probably a better game than Ocarina of Time, because it's got higher resolution and more shaders.



JaxonH said:


I say to each their own. If you're not satisfied, by all mean sell your console.

Me, I'm more satisfied with Wii U than any console I've ever owned. 3 Wii U games have already hit "favorite of all time" status. 35 games I've deemed worth buying in just over a year. 6 pre orders in at the moment. 4 most hyped games of 2014 are Wii U exclusives. Me, not only am I satisfied, Wii U has exceeded my expectations. 3DS could never fill the shoes of the Wii U for me. Not even close.

But again, that's just me, and to each their own. No need to announce it to us, unless you're looking for our blessing, in which case I think I speak for everyone here when I say play what you like. If the games on Wii U aren't your style, then by all means, sell it. Just do what you gotta do and game on.



Phatosaurus said:

@Daisaku36 It would be a lot quicker to just list the ones coming to the WiiU and assume all other aren't.

Mario Kart 8
Smash Bros.
Bayonetta 2
Erm...Zelda Musou?
And eh, Retro Studios next game.
OH! Err, Shovel Knight!



Skyfox2000 said:

@JaxonH I Love Nintendo Games I wouldn't be here if I didn't like them. They aint trying hard enough we done missed out on 3 big Third Party games that didn't come to the Wii U Strider Reboot, Thief, MGSGZ



JaxonH said:


Also, in addition to the games you listed, there's...

Watch Dogs
Hyrule Warriors
Yoshi's Yarn
Fast Racing Neo
SMT x Fire Emblem
Zelda U (reveal in 3 months)
Project Cars
NES Remix 2
Sonic Boom
*new exclusive being announced in next month's issue of ONM

that we know for a fact are coming. And with E3 only a few months out, I'm eager to find out what else they have in the works- not just for Wii U but 3DS as well!



JaxonH said:


Ok, but in all fairness, what exactly do you want Nintendo to do about it? That's not their call. When it's their own games, they can put them on whatever console they want. When it's Konami, or Capcom, they can't just demand a Wii U release. Especially after 20+ 3rd party games failed to even hit a quarter million sales. I know you wanted those games on Wii U- but that's not under the control of Nintendo. You should be upset with Konami and Capcom if you're going to be upset with anyone. And I'm not just saying that to defend Nintendo, it's actually just the truth of the matter. It's their games. It's their call. There's nothing Nintendo can do about it. And as much as I hate to say this, I don't blame Konomi or Capcom. Not one multiplat thus far has managed to surpass a quarter million sales on Wii U. It's just business.



Senario said:

@unrandomsam Correct, it isn't older it is just different. And game devs are very adverse to having to work a little harder to make something work.

@Skyfox2000 Eh, I heard Thief was simply not good. As for metal gear, I can't say I exactly agree with what Kojima is putting in the game this time around. But I got kinda burnt out on Guns of the Patriot's cutscenes being obscenely long. I finished the game but it just wasn't as fun as it was hyped up to be at the time.

@JaxonH Yay somebody mentioned Hyrule Warriors. I feel like I'm the only one who is fairly excited about that game. Definitely in my top 3 right behind Mario kart and before X. Sadly Smash bros is #4 because I am unsure how well the game will be balanced for competitive aspects. It doesn't need to be like melee, it just needs to take some cues from it beyond the surface. Like L Canceling, which helped a lot of slower characters to combo. Or grabs that throw people into the air in some way, making it harder to chain one into another since you would have to predict where the enemy would go. None of this Falco Forward throw stuff from brawl.



IceClimbers said:

Not really surprised. Not much Nintendo can do about 3rd party support short of pulling a Bayonetta 2 for every major 3rd party game. Nintendo should definitely fund and publish more 3rd party games like they did with Bayonetta 2.



IceClimbers said:

I'm more excited for the games that are coming like Smash Bros, Mario Kart 8, X, Bayonetta 2, etc.



Senario said:

@belmont No, you don't need to replace parts on a yearly basis. Video games generally hover around the specs needed for whatever is needed for consoles. That is a misconception from people who don't own a gaming pc they have built. Generally a gaming pc will last as long as the parts last before you need to replace them. And that really depends.



CaPPa said:

I'm disappointed that Arkham Knight doesn't appear to be headed to the Wii U but not surprised seeing as Origins had its dlc cancelled due to poor sales.

I do plan on picking up a PS4 in the future but I'm waiting for some games that I actually want (there's only Batman, Kingdom Hearts 3 and maybe The Order at the moment) and for PS+ to start giving away good games. Then I'll have the PS4 with the free games and will just buy games on the Wii U/3DS.

I own all 4 and I'd say it goes:
Mario 3D World>DK Tropical Freeze>Rayman Legends>NSMBU
DK is one of the best looking games on the Wii U too and definitely the best looking 2D platformer.



SparkOfSpirit said:

@belmont Gaming PCs don't need to be upgraded all the time. They are also more powerful than the current consoles and are upgradable if you WANT them to be. In the long run a gaming PC is cheaper than buying all three systems.

Also, I don't like modern Square so Final Fantasy XV has no real appeal to me.



Phatosaurus said:

@belmont With the current stagnation of console hardware holding back graphical progression, gaming PCs rarely need upgrading, providing you buy smart in the first place.

The only reason to upgrade past say, an i5 and a 560Ti is if you wanted to run games past 1920x1080 at 60FPS or more. Which is kinda niche for the average PC gamer.



dok5555555 said:

This is a real bummer, I don't have a PS4 or X1 or a PC powerful enough. I have a 360 but its not on that either. They should make a Wii U version. It's my next gen platform of choice but it seems like developers are shunning it because its getting all this undeserved hate. I know there's a business issue (they may feel it won't sell well), but I mean the Wii U can't succeed if 3rd parties won't give it a chance and put out some games for it. It's not getting support becuase its not selling as well, but its not selling as well becuase it's not getting support. I love my Wii U, has aswome games, who cares if it's not as powerful, I mean either was the N64, or Gamecube but those were fantastic consoles with great games, so is Wii U. It deserves better treatment.



Cyberbotv2 said:

Its too bad, the bat won't be showing up on Wii U. I don't know what Nintendo really has planned this year. If after the new fiscal year starts on April 1st, Nintendo doesn't ramp up the effort, I may move on from gaming in general.



JaxonH said:


Well, I'm pretty confident Yoshi's Yarn will be coming this fall/winter. I could be wrong, obviously, but there's been some movement about the game lately with pre order listings and info I heard from a Gamestop employee (not sure whether to believe him, he's been both right and wrong with his info so far). Idk, they showed us footage last year so it was already well under development then. And that was 14 months ago. Seems like a game they'd reveal more about this E3, with a fall release date.

As for Watch Dogs, I'm pretty sure that game is coming to Wii U this year after the other versions, just like they said. I very much doubt they are going to cancel a game so close to being finished (only a matter of months away, plus they always finish a few months before it actually releases). A game like that, even the Wii U version, will have cost them many millions of dollars to develop. Most AAA releases on Wii U sell between 100-200k, though ZombiU did sell over 600k as an exclusive. Still, even if they just sold 200k (this game will be on the higher end of sales for Wii U ports), they're going to bank millions off this game by releasing it on Wii U. They may even post a profit, who knows.

But profit or no, one thing I know for sure is that releasing the game will, at the very least, recoup the majority of development costs spent thus far. Cancelling would only make the situation worse. If they were going to cancel, they wouldn't have waited until only months away from completion to do it. However, there is a small chance that development of the Wii U version is substantially further behind the others, and they're going to run a litmus test with the other versions before determining whether or not to proceed with the Wii U version. I doubt it, but I do recognize this as a possibility. But, if by some small chance that does turn out to be the case, so be it.



Gamer83 said:


Just something to keep in mind. Origins was done by a completely different development team at WB Montreal. Rocksteady- the team making this game- made Asylum, which was a 2009 release, and City which released in 2011. So if Arkham Knight releases this year, that's 3 years between the last two games, so I'm not concerned about the dev time at all. Origins was a stop-gap prequel to make some extra cash. It's not a good look but I wouldn't worry about the quality of this new game based on WB pulling a cash-in last year.



TwilightOniAngel said:

@Hernandez well we have one thing in coming the 3ds greatness in software, but im keeping the my wiiu for the new zelda and x. but you well its your decision to sell it or keep at least you have those games you mentioned to wait for.



TwilightOniAngel said:

@Gamer83 Oh yeah i forgot it was another development team who made origins i liked the game not the best i, just hope this one goes back to being like arkham city. IF it does then definitely buying it for the pc though and god i hope this one does not have that dreaded multiplayer from origins.



JaxonH said:


What I don't understand, is if this game isn't coming to a Nintendo console, why is it being reported as news here on a Nintendo site? I hope they don't start writing articles for every game that doesn't come to Wii U, or they're gonna start getting people riled up for no good reason. I've never seen the Sony fansite report on Wii U games not coming to PS4 (even Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Bayonetta 2, no mention), and why should they? They have their own games to look forward to, as do we.

But think of all the 3rd party multiplats that have come to Wii U. Now imagine if every time a sequel releases on other systems, they post an article saying, "hey remember Mass Effect 3, well Mass Effect 4 was just announced and it's not coming to Wii U". I just don't see the need to report on games that aren't coming to the system. I've never seen so many "Nintendo" fans focus so much on games that have nothing to do with Nintendo. I mean, if it's coming to the console, I say fair game. But this is gonna be a LONG year if they specifically report every game that doesn't.



TwilightOniAngel said:

@JaxonH yeah that makes me mad with this website were they just make articles about games not coming to the wiiu, there going to keep doing that the rest of year and there so many games not coming to the wiiu. Articles about news like this are going to be flooding in this site they should stop, the only article that actually gave some news about the wiiu and third party support was the watch dogs one.



Senate_Guard said:

I have a theory that perhaps Armature Studios is working on a Wii U version of the game. That or there'll be an Armored Edition-type of release down the road.

They'd be setting themselves up for poor sales if its strictly Xbox One and PS4, console-wise. WB games thought the Wii U had a low install-base? What about Xbox One and PS4? Tons of 360/PS3 owners are already crying about having to upgrade.



Emaan said:

And so it begins.

Oh wait this isn't anything new with the Wii U.



rbmoura85 said:

@Doma haha Cod: Modern Warfare whatever for the wii disagrees with you...and xenoblade chronicles also says hello

I hope u have understood that i meant that, even being graphically inferior, the core gameplay mechanics of any ps3 game could have been replicated on the Wii...and this is even more true for the Wii U. Theres even one interview with Reggie where he says that the main reason why some games did not come to the Wii was because it wasnt HD.



Jaz007 said:

I'm glad it's not on Wii U to be honest. That way it won't be restricted by Wii U's power, or lack there of.



Spoony_Tech said:

@midnafanboy @JaxonH It's a relivent article though! The Wii U did get 2 other Batman's so way not run it?! Besides it's the news that gets the foot traffic. If this article only had 10 posts then we would see less of them. Plus they don't just run a news story about a 3rd party game not coming over to the U unless there is a story behind it like the dev saying it's not worth our time and money. They will not just come out and say oh look another game not coming over without a story linking as to why!



ultimate321 said:

@Blast theyre not milking it at all. Theres 3 main games, asylum, city and knight all made byrocksteady. Origins was a stop gap made by wb montreal. So its not reallymilking it in anybway.



rbmoura85 said:

@Kirk agreed, but the lack of power is possibly the least important of all the reasons...maybe 5 years from now, they come up with some gameplay that the Wii U cant handle, but for now, even though its versions would be inferior graphcally, im pretty sure it could run all this games coming out for this other consoles...if the install base was there, not only in numbers, but also in type of install base, meaning core gamers willing to buy third party, those games would be coming



rbmoura85 said:

@Spoony_Tech well, nice point...but i guess, releasing a lesser version requires adaptation and they are probably focusing on the high end version now. Plus, third party companies have great interest in building the install base of next gen consoles, because thats where they will be making their living for the next 10 years...

Did you know, for example, that the Gameboy Color had a version of Resident Evil? Not a spin off, a port of the playstation game!



Kolzig said:

Was hoping to get more heroes in like in the style of the Justice League, but this one is for PC like the previous Batman games from Rocksteady so no big loss here.

Though I am interested in buying Arkham City for a second time since the Wii U version has some interesting stuff added to it and also it can be bought new for like 10€ now.



shaneoh said:

Origins on Wii U would have been a day one purchase if it hadn't been nerfed. Would have bought this if it were coming to Wii U, and featured everything the other consoles got. Only choice is to get it for PC when I get a new rig, but that won't be for a while. So they've missed out on a couple of full price, day one purchases. As I'm going the PC route, they may miss out on sales from me completely, but I will get to play both games.



Trikeboy said:

It's a shame but I recently did a system upgrade on my PC so I should be able to run it.



citizenerased said:

Another great series leaving the Wii U, shame. I was honestly expecting them to release a PS360 version, and thus maybe a Wii U port. Might still happen later on, who knows.



Finntendo said:

Oh I cannot wait that mr. Eflop gets his hands on MS XBox division and will run it down like he did with Nokia (making crappy decisions and then ex-employer gets to buy it cheap and he gets a kickdonkey position at his old workplace). He has said that MS should get rid of it (seriously).

Origins really ruined my Batman-experience. And if I ever want this, there's still pc.

And Batman isn't for kids. Heh, also GTA isn't for kids, BF and CoD are not for kids and yet you see vids 10yr olds excited when mommy and daddy give 'em GTA5 or hear on vids some 12yr old playing BF (or 'Bäfä' how we Finns call it). It saddens me that yet the gaming society gets bigger and bigger, it's all about blood and guts and killing and slashing etc. over and over again.

I have a feeling that when the NEXT gen comes..MS and SOny has some kind of touchscreen thingie even it's been crap (or so they say) when it's been on WiiU. Nintendo has to think really, really, really hard what to do with the next console. They really need to think of next console already.
Please watch the profanity — TBD



GunstarHero234 said:

@Luigi789 Got one I'm buying this game and that's reality while the majority of you will still have your heads in the sand "complaining and being biased" over not wanting to buy the other platforms for this game good luck with that while I enjoy driving my Batmobile around Gotham City in the future LOL.



Mochtroid said:

Really bummed about this since I really loved what Rocksteady gave us with Arkham City and those awesome Gamepad features.

Guess I'll be getting this (MAYBE) for PC.



GunstarHero234 said:

Your whole comment is a contradiction first off if you read the fine print on this article this is Rocksteady "LAST ARKHAM SERIES".

Second they isn't "milking" anything "each and every year" WB games Montreal develop Origins not Rocksteady which was a stop-gap prequel of the other 2 Arkham stories and also the same title which in fact did poorly on the Wii U.

So stop trying to antagonize these people with your biased contradictions on this thread because you don't know what the hell you talking about.



unrandomsam said:

@Finntendo I never knew it was Elop they were giving it to he is like a Cancer.

He might try to sell it but whether he succeeds is something else.

Someone like him or Carl Icahn could destroy NIntendo in very short order. (I really hope it cannot happen).



Doma said:

@Shroom_Muncher There's no shame in saying it. Under Iwata, Nintendo are doomed for sure. He's a clueless buffoon who's been making empty promises for years.



eaglebob345 said:

@Shroom_Muncher Right now the PS3, 360, and even Wii are superior to the PS4, XBOne, and Wii U because they have 8 years worth of games on them. How are NEW systems with less than 300 games going to compete with ESTABLISHED systems with 800+ games in quality or quantity? Is hype supposed to make up for a lack of games? I know your not saying Nintendoom, as you have so graciously noted, but you should tell your friends that they are stating the obvious and that they are not as smart as they seem to think they are.



Kirk said:

@Faron Don't be a numpty.

@rbmoura85 I actually think there's already quite a few proper next-gen games [or current-gen to be more accurate] that the Wii U would find near impossible to run without greatly affecting the overall experience quite a bit, can't really be bothered listing them but they are there, and it's only going to get worse and worse as we move further and further into this generation.



Spoony_Tech said:

@rbmoura85 That was laughable at best! Couldn't see Nintendo letting them release that on the Gameboy in its current form anyways. Too much blood and why the zombies fell to their knees was a bit strange.



WaveBoy said:

And he has the posture and personality of a wooden christmas nutcracker.
He's no Howard Phillips.



Luigi789 said:

@GunstarHero234 and that matters because ....... u do realize its just a game and its not even a must have plus i can get it if i want i have ps4 just don't really play it :/



Dark-Link73 said:

@withoutdk You're welcome! * whispering in ear* (which part because I've said so many things on this thread that I don't know which one you're thanking me for) LOL!



Ralizah said:

Fine. I'd be perfectly willing to buy a Wii U copy at full price, but if we're going this route, I'll get it on PC during a Steam sale. $20 max. It'll get down there eventually. They always do.



Vermithrax said:

@Blast I don't what you're talking about because Asylum was a masterpiece and Arkham City stepped it up a million notches with Arkham City and won many goty awards. Their third game will do the same. Hardly milking it since their last game was 2011.



Vermithrax said:

@Kirk yeah and that's the problem with Nintendo's design. They were short sighted and made it to compete with the 360 and ps3. Personally I buy nintendo consoles for first party anyway, but this will hurt them. I think most gamers will have a ps4 or Xbox one by the time this releases. I have a ps4 to play most games but nintendo is my favorite developer.



mike_intellivision said:

This is a business decision. If you look at the demographics of the marketplace, the WiiU owners are typically not buying this type of game. So even if all the consoles had similar power and architecture, the WiiU might not receive it.

What is far more surprising is the abandonment of the original HD Twins (PS3/X360) so early. If you need to sell several million copies to break even, it would be difficult to do on a base of 15-20 million PS4 and XB1 consoles.



rbmoura85 said:

@Spoony_Tech yeah, but the important to notice is that the core gameplay mechanics were there, so its dificult to think that the ps4 could do anything that could not be adapted to the Wii U.



rbmoura85 said:

@Kirk I wish that was true. I wish the games i have been playing now were fundamentally diferent and more complex from games i had played 10 years in the past.



Superryanworld said:

I enjoyed asylum& city,yet this doesn't mean much to me.I think I've had my fill of Batman games until they change things up a bit.With the wii u's install base is anyone really suprised at this point?



Senate_Guard said:

I'm fairly sure they'll release a version down the road for Wii U, PS3, and 360. If they're re-releasing Arkham Origins: Blackgate on home consoles, it doesn't sound too farfetched.

I really don't think it'll sell well just being on XB1 and PS4; two consoles barely half a year old.



Kirk said:


There's not going to be a huge fundamental difference to the games you played 10 years ago but go back 20 or 30 years and they are almost entirely different things apart from a few core design elements and principles, basic gameplay fundamentals, that have remained consistent.

You simply could not do most of these modern games on old consoles however and I'm not just talking about graphics. For example, on a NES you had a limited amount of sprites you could display on-screen, even in a single line (only 4 in one horizontal line if I recall correctly). How would you ever dream of having a game where you can battle hundreds of enemies on screen at once like in Total War? With the limited ram old consoles had you couldn't possibly have a massive single open world like you do in Skyrim. Even attempting an fps on NES would be a near impossibility so you'd lose an entire genre basically.

That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that advances in tech/power can bring to the table and now the Wii U finds itself in a similar situation compared to the other consoles where there's stuff the more creative and ambitious developers are going to be able to do on those consoles that the Wii U will simply choke to death if it tried the same. Although OBVIOUSLY there's not actually anywhere near as many limitations with Wii U compared to the other consoles in that respect BUT there are some, quite a few actually, and they will become more and more apparent as this gen moves on.

You might want to believe there's nothing that can be done on these new consoles that you couldn't just as easily do on Wii U as long as you use a few less polygons or whatever but that's just simply untrue because there's a lot more to consider than just the slightly improved graphics.



rbmoura85 said:

@Kirk some limitations do exist, but also plenty of options of getting around them...where theres a will, theres a way...Virtual Fighter for the Sega Genesis should serve as another example, a 3d fighter ported to 16 bit console...these diferences in processing power in modern consoles are very overestimated. People see something in a 8th generation console and imediatelly assume that it wasnt possible before, while in some cases, it was not the tech that made it possible, but mostly the change in mentality that comes with a new generation.

As you said, limitations exist, but if theres financial interest in bringing this games to Wii U, they will come in some shape or form. Thats what i mean.



Kirk said:


Well true but right now there's not even that kind of financial benefit or incentive to figuring out how to get these games on Wii U anyway, as far as most developers are concerned. So it's all basically moot.



SammytheSaiyan said:

@GunstarHero234 They could've at least waited a year, so that they could make the game as good as possible. But no, they just have to keep on spewing this garbage out onto a platter each and every year. I don't care whether or not it is the last in the series, because the series itself is nothing special and less and less people are anticipating this trash because they are using the Fifa/Madden/COD/Skylanders strategy, which is the impression that if they release one cheap cash-in per year, that'll be another way to make bug bucks! Well, I'm sick of it. And as for you, all over the comments section, I'm seeing you acting butthurt and whining, "No! It's not milked because it's the last in the series!" My point still remains no matter what you say, so screw off and let me have my own opinion, and I'll let you do the same.



hYdeks said:

Of course it's not coming to Wii U, if they did that they would have to severely reduce the graphics, or give the Wii U it's own dedicated game, which at this point how well the Wii U is selling, definitely wouldn't be worth it for them.

Face it Nintendo fans, Wii U is on the level of 360/ PS3, not One/ PS4, you're gonna be left out on alot of games, maybe consider buying a One/PS4 to go along with your Wii U?



miletich3 said:

Warner Bro, please consider launching an armored edition of Arkham Knight, just as you did with Arkham City.



King_Johobo said:

It's sad but not that surprising. I LOVE Batman and I'll look forward to playing this when the PS4 is down to a less ridiculous price.



rylog said:

This is why warner bros owes me money back on on all my warner bros movies as games. Greedy barstewards



Gma-X said:

Sad, but nothing surprising. Nintendo should've released a console with specs worthy of this time. You can't blame developers for not going the extra mile to make a version of the game for a platform where most people aren't into the hardcore side of games.



DESS-M-8 said:


Can't put it any simpler. Will not be buying a ps4 or crapbox. Whereas I would day 1 eshop release pay £49.99 for this.

No wii u? No sale.
Simple as that from this consumer.



DESS-M-8 said:

@hydeks nope. Never. They are crap.

If I buy a second console, I'll fork out a few hundred more and buy a real next gen console like Alienware console buy PC versions of multiformat games not on wii u.
Ps4 and xboxone are a joke of next gen. They bring nothing but bottom tier next gen graphic engines.

Luckily I bought a wii u as I like playing high quality video games typically found in the catalogue if a world leading video game designer company like nintendo,

When a third party hits that same benchmark and it's not on wii u and graphics are the order of the day? Leave your crapbox and ps4 back at babies r us. You want games outside of a wii u? Get a pc console.

The only exclusive outside of nintendo I'm interested in is uncharted. Everything else???? It's on PC.



Dreamz said:

A game I wouldn't have purchased anyways not coming to the Wii U? Sadface.

More seriously though....I really hope that MK8, Smash U, and Bayonetta2 bury sales records. It would give developers who abandoned the platform prematurely the figurative finger and hopefully attract some 3rd party support from developers who aren't spewing sequels out their orifices like a rogue sprinkler system.

@Gma-X Nintendo has the right of it, I think, their approach just needs work. You don't need top of the line graphics. Modest improvements are perfectly fine. Price points and the games themselves are the more important factors. The U has the games, just not enough of them. Likewise, it has a good price point, just not as good as it should be.



DBPirate said:

sigh Well Mario Kart 8 will probably be better anyway. At least they don't have to go 25 mph in that. (Rocksteady said one of their reasons for not developing a Wii U version was because the Batmobile would only go "25 mph."



BigNintendoNerd said:

Not really surprised but Furious!!!!!! It really bothers me to see it go down this way!!! I'm going to hate missing out on this game!!! I swear the next movie "batman vs superman" better be fantastic to make up for this bullcrap!!!



Nick_The_Greek said:

I am not surprised either. VERY low sales on the system, why would they bother porting it again? They need sales as it is more expensive to develop for next gen. I would love a WiiU version but low sales and no Nintendo interest........

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