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Senior EA Employee Caught Out Criticising Wii U On Twitter

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Not too long after Electronic Arts admitted that it currently had nothing in development for the Wii U, Senior Software Engineer and Architect at EA, Bob Summerwill, took to Twitter to voice his opinions on the system.

Summerwill, who has been with EA since 1999 and worked on titles such as FIFA 11, according to his Linkedin profile, has slammed the Wii U as being "crap" and that Nintendo should have "done a SEGA and offered Mario/Zelda as PS4/Durango exclusives".

We've included screenshots of Bob's comments - thanks to IGN - as his views have since been deleted from the social media site.

It looks like this EA and Nintendo deterioration in relations is reaching down to senior development staff, after a very different atmosphere just two years ago at E3 2011. On the plus side, Nintendo is making inroads with other major developers, today announcing an exclusive deal with SEGA for the next Sonic title.

[via ie.ign.com, neogaf.com]

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tsm7

#2

tsm7 said:

Ugh, this is so unprofessional and irresponsible. What if EA needs games on a Nintendo console in the future? They're ruining business relations.

Captain_Toad

#4

Captain_Toad said:

There's a thing between having an honest opinion and being a total jerk about it.
After dealing with the #dealwithit dude and what happened after that, you should know better than to act like this, ill-regardless of position.

GN004Nadleeh

#5

GN004Nadleeh said:

all you people hate the truth. just because you have a wii u don't make it good. the wii u has no power and dated games and dare to try to charge $60 a game like the real consoles. what are they thinking charging so much for the luigi dlc? bye bye nintendo

Dreamcaster-X

#9

Dreamcaster-X said:

No love lost here. They only have 1 franchise I care about, Mass Effect and I'm scared to death they're gonna ruin that as well.

Midnight3DS

#11

Midnight3DS said:

Twitter is great. It's the window to your soul. I'm a fan of honesty, and Twitter is like the magic golden lasso.

TwilightV

#12

TwilightV said:

InB4 Summerwill gets fired. :P

And if he doesn't, that helps speak volumes about the clowns currently running EA.

MAB

#14

MAB said:

Sounds like EA doesn't want another company taking their prestigious 'worst' award away from them anytime soon ;)

NintyMan

#15

NintyMan said:

You don't have to love the Wii U, but you don't have to act like a jerk to disagree. Acting like a jerk just makes you look petty and unprofessional, making you lose credibility. It's funny he had to do this during a Nintendo Direct mostly about the Wii U as well.

Dreamcaster-X

#16

Dreamcaster-X said:

I love how they're all brave saying this crap but then take it down afterwards. What a douchenozzle!!

Kirbic

#17

Kirbic said:

"Gen 4"

So gaming generations only follow Playstation consoles. People, the NES and the SNES officially never existed, nor did the Genesis. <_<

Einherjar

#18

Einherjar said:

@Dreamcaster-X As long as EA has its fingers in it, it will go the way of the Dragon (Age) and die off horribly. Bioware is an absoluteely excelent studio, if the have free reign over their products. But if EA kicks in, its lost.
The same happend to the Dead Space franchise. The first one was completely made by the original dev team and it was absolutely brilliant. And now look what happend since EA started to milk the poop out of the series ?

Back on topic: Nothing more to say than..."I said it many times before"

Ernest_The_Crab

#19

Ernest_The_Crab said:

There was obviously a reason those remarks were removed. Probably one of the worst places to post something like that as well.

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Yeah...removing those comments isn't going to do anything. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is in A LOT of trouble right now. Though it is surprising someone that stupid got into a senior position.

Captain_Toad

#20

Captain_Toad said:

@GN004Nadleeh We have no problem with such things and insults like this. (we kinda deal with this all the time.)
But the thing is that this higher up has told this in such a manner that I'll be surprised that he still has a job.
Even I wouldn't do something like this at my job!

bouncer0304

#22

bouncer0304 said:

I hope this guy is booted. Not professional at all. How can he critizise after that disasterous Sims launch? People have requested the simplest things yet they get zilch from them. I'm not denying Nintendo got the Wii U launch completely wrong and messed it up but remeber how the 3ds started? Now look at it. When the Wii U is doing better thos time next year, EA will look foolish and come crawling back, hopefully with the same versions of games as other consoles.
I also think they are relying too much on "next gen" and mobiles. Facebook games are not as popular as they used to be, most want mobile games which are free and when the PS4 and next xbox launch later this year, not many people will splash out because money is tighter than ever. EA are heading for a fall and it'll be sooner than they expect. Question is, will anyone be prepared to save them when they do?

MAN1AC

#23

MAN1AC said:

No.
The real question is how many developers and people in the industry feel the same way about the Wii U?

6ch6ris6

#24

6ch6ris6 said:

lol that guy is so funny. wiiU is actually more powerful than xbox360.
and nintendo should make great games? well they are. maybe the guy from EA should just shut up

mingzu

#25

mingzu said:

If you ask me, he knows how to use social media equally as good as Nintendo. I think i can only agree with a commend i read on another side: What will happen after this?? Nintendo fans wont be buying EA games......Oh wait.

NINTENBOY

#26

NINTENBOY said:

If you are upset about this topic and what he said.....then why not go on his Twitter and DIRECTLY give him a piece of your mind!!

AVahne

#29

AVahne said:

@Kirbic
It goes beyond those. Apparently this EA guy doesn't think the Atari 2600, Colecovision, Magnavox Odyssey, etc. ever existed if he doesn't think they're in any kind of gaming generation.

Shiryu

#31

Shiryu said:

Mom and Dad raised me better than that. Shame he can't say the same...

SparkOfSpirit

#33

SparkOfSpirit said:

I think there will be quite a lot of meltdowns after the PS4 and new Xbox fail to take off out of the gate like these people hope...

gavn64

#36

gavn64 said:

@GN004Nadleeh the port of Need for Speed is graphicaly superior to its console brethren you are buying into this nonsense i hope you feel foolish, he is only saying this because EA are now officialy it would seem an enemy of NINTENDO all because of ORIGIN.

retro_player_22

#37

retro_player_22 said:

"They should had done a Sega."

There's a reason why this slogan exist, "Sega does what Nintendon't." Also Gen4? This is Gen 8 dammit.

ajcismo

#38

ajcismo said:

Regardless of whether or not you agree with his Tweets, what he said is completely unprofessional. I know I would lose my job if I took to social media and slammed a client, competitor or business partner.

tsm7

#39

tsm7 said:

@SteveSnowmn : YES! It drves me nuts. So many people on this site do it. Collectively, Nintendo is a single group and it should be "Nintendo is" ... that and "Nintendo are" sounds terrible.

sweetiepiejonus

#41

sweetiepiejonus said:

Sweet christ. This seems like the feed was hacked by a ignorant fanboy. I didn't expect idiocy like this even from an EA employee.

As others have mentioned it's not that what this dork says is completely untrue it's about professionalism and how you say things when you represent a company, even if he's no big wig, when people see "Senior" in your title they think you are important.

WesGrogan

#42

WesGrogan said:

@mingzu A lot of us Wii U owners have more than one console and multiple options for buying software. I can guarantee you I won't be buying EA on ANY of my platforms for at least the near future.

Best_

#43

Best_ said:

Uh oh! Bob better start filling out his unemployment application.

meltendo

#45

meltendo said:

I'm happy that I'll be saving money after this...no more EA games for me ever. I'll even give up my beloved Mass Effect series.

bizcuthammer

#46

bizcuthammer said:

All of his comments make complete sense if you look at how EA views the business... He was basically saying "Hey nintendo, quit being creative and innovative, and start making reiterative sequels nonstop for systems that have lots of graphical power instead." Thats what EA does, so apparantly thats what everyone should do. Man EA just makes it harder and harder for me to not hate them every day. Its incredibly tragic that they own Star Wars, Bioware and NFL... But i'll just have to do without those til EA wisens up and starts treating us Wii U owners with the same respect they do with other console owners.

At the same time, he did make a valid point; many nintendo fans are guilty of only buying first party games on Wii U and 3DS. If this trend continues, it wont just be EA that does this... Ubisoft and 2K and others will jump ship too. At the end of the day, games are a business too, and companies arent just gonna put games on Wii U if they arent seeing profits. Thats stupid and we shouldnt expect it. So i guess what i'm saying is this: When a good game comes out for Wii U, BUY IT for Wii U, not PC or whatever. Games like Mass Effect 3, Assassins Creed IV, Watch Dogs, Rayman Legends, Sonic Lost World, etc need to be purchased alongside first party stuff like Mario and Zelda. Otherwise, more third parties will pull an EA.

zoroarkrules25

#47

zoroarkrules25 said:

Guess what EA? Because of your stupid employees you just lost me and many other customers. Achievement unlocked: failed to beat and weaken nintendo.

WesGrogan

#48

WesGrogan said:

@bizcuthammer That is why I applaud Nintendo for not showering first party titles at launch. They've given the other developers a chance for their games to shine. I've picked up ZombiU, Assassin's Creed III, TTT2, Lego City Undercover, and several other games not made by Nintendo, which is pretty much a first for me with a Nintendo platform launch. Also, with the graphical and gameplay improvements of the Wii U, it's no longer a matter of buying the "crippled" version as it was for the Wii, or at least was perceived to be. That helps, too.

CasuallyDressedStaff

#49

CasuallyDressed said:

@tsm7 @stevesnowmn I think this is one of those UK vs. US things. Addressing things like bands and companies as 'is' seems weird to us. When I go on music forums and see stuff like 'Funeral for a Friend is on tour,' it just reads totally wrong to me.

I would always say 'Nintendo are'.

Best_

#51

Best_ said:

I don't think Nintendo cares of what other companies say about them. But just in case they do care, even if it's just a little - be careful, they will wake up the sleeping GIANT!

Midnight3DS

#52

Midnight3DS said:

I don't want to see the guy fired, though he may be. That's harsh. If EA wants to slap him a peg or two down the chain of command, whatever. He's out of site. He ripped on Nintendo. Eh. No puppies were harmed.

StephenYap3

#53

StephenYap3 said:

Wow. I was interested buying a game from EA, but after hearing this, I don't think I want to.

NintendoPro64

#54

NintendoPro64 said:

I'd like to see people damage control this! Seriously, I think we all can agree that EA's got something against Nintendo at this point.

bonesy91

#55

bonesy91 said:

My brother called and told me about this. My gosh I hope he gets fired lol. EA.... yup no more business from me jerks.

Neram

#57

Neram said:

I'd like to point out that this doesn't reflect the opinion of EA in general, but when he distinctly said that "it is an utterly intentional decision" for EA not to support Nintendo, the safety net of "personal opinion" not being reflective of his employer just totally fell through the roof there.

I'm not going to start an uproar and declare boycotting EA like some rabid Nintendo fan or anything, but I'm personally choosing not to buy games under the EA banner anymore, simply because they don't want to take Wii U owners seriously, so why should Wii U owners take them seriously? Screw that nonsense.

SteveW

#58

SteveW said:

Its total idiots like this that make me glad EA isn't bringing their crap to the Wii U. EA has been going down for some time now, just give it a couple more years.

WesGrogan

#60

WesGrogan said:

@Neram That is exactly where I am. Between employee issues, PR nightmares like this, cheating the consumer by releasing the same game in two years and then blaming the consumer for not buying it, cancelling all support for the Wii U while still denying doing so, maintaining their exclusive NFL license (which, seriously, is just plain ridiculous), buying and gutting various talented studios, the whole Sim City debacle.. I mean, the list goes on and on. I just don't see why I would support EA at this point.

Urbanhispanic

#62

Urbanhispanic said:

the only real way to get back at EA is to NOT buy ANY of their titles...even....the new Need for Speed game....which in my opinion, looks GREAT on the Wii U.....damn.....:(

Kirbic

#63

Kirbic said:

"It is an utterly intentional decision..."

This is the killing blow of the whole thing. The guy is giving his opinions and I really believe he is a moron for most of those opinion, like how he says "Gen 4" and implies the Gamepad is a downside, but once he said those words, his thoughts suddenly become EA's thoughts and not purely his own. THIS is a problem. A Microsoft employee got fired for shouting "Deal With It" in the face of people annoyed about the idea of "always online", but he didn't outright speak for his company. This guy is.

GiftedGimp

#64

GiftedGimp said:

LMOA!! Seriously, I can't believe a senoir exec at EA would resort to Fanboy comments more often found on forums made by 12yr olds who's mummy have brought them a Xbox/Playstation for christmas...
Pretty sure EA will announce that his Twitter account had been hacked and it was the hacker who sent out those tweets.
It will be total BS of course, much like thier public reasoning for not supporting Nintendo/WiiU.. if there was any credability in thier reasoning they would not of be supporting the Vita, and they would only be thinking of releasing a few Ps3/360 ports on Kinectbox/Ps4 untill the userbase figures have reached a high enough level.

Drobotic

#65

Drobotic said:

Despite this,I'm still getting Need for Speed.But other than that,I'm not giving EA any of my money.

squirrelguys

#67

squirrelguys said:

@Burning_Spear
Buried dead.
I respect all opinions but you don't have to go be mean about it. The fact that this came from EA shouldn't have surprised anyone given their track record.

MarioFanatic38

#70

MarioFanatic38 said:

That is effing it, from this point on i'm not buying any game from EA and the WiiU is tons of powerful than a crapbox 360, this person needs to do their researching before they make themselves look like a donkey butt, oooppps to late.

GiftedGimp

#71

GiftedGimp said:

Its Obvious the part about Nintendo eStore offerings is a direct dig because Nintendo didn't let EA control it with Origin.
The whole reason behind the u-turn regarding EA's support of WiiU.
And yes theres those that don't believe this is the reasoning, ok, but why is it EA chose thier stance before the WiiU had even released or at the very latest the end of 2012? (WiiU initial launch figures were strong) If they had only recently decided to stop supporting the WiiU, there would of been more EA games already in development before thier 'no longer supported' announcment which would of still been released so they could recoup at least some development costs.

taffy

#72

taffy said:

The thing that get's me is him saying it has poor online/store... wasn't EA Sports actively involved in the development of the online infrastructure of the Wii U?

GearsOfWarU

#73

GearsOfWarU said:

I'm the proud owner of a Wii U, I've also owned Xbox 360, Xbox, Sega Dreamcast, Nintendo 64, Atari Jaguar , NES ,Game boy & Atari Lynx ... I've enjoyed them all ... I like games... But EA are bunch of A Holes... Will not support them or Sony ever!!!!!

Gavin_Rozee

#74

Gavin_Rozee said:

The funniest part is he criticised Nintendo/Google for WiiStreetU but he seems okay with the Pizza Hut app for Xbox 360 LOL.

Stupid deluded fanboy. Hope he gets fired and can't find a new job.

edhe

#75

edhe said:

@GiftedGimp The hackers will either be a shadowy cabal of homophobes who oppose EA's righteous stance on homosexuality and video games, or a shadowy cabal of Christians who oppose EA's righteous stance on homosexuality and video games.

GiftedGimp

#77

GiftedGimp said:

@edhe Are you EA's Public relations manager by chance prepering the press official release on the matter by chance? lol

MarioFanatic38

#79

MarioFanatic38 said:

And one more thing how they going to talk poop about Nintendo games while every one of EA's games suck big time.

C7_

#80

C7_ said:

EA's higher ups are all jokes; We're on Generation 8 of consoles, and the fact that this guy thinks consoles began when Sony joined is enough testimony of his bias and ignorance.

Remember when EA first announced it's amazing partnership with WiiU? That same year they were voted worst company in America and their public image went in the trash can. I sincerely hope Nintendo just flat out denied Origin and told them to shove off, because with this attitude I'd be surprised if Nintendo would let them touch another Nintendo console again.

And what if the WiiU turns out to be a success? The tablet controller has proven itself to be quite an asset and Miiverse is quite neat so far. EA's just shooting themselves in the foot with these comments.

OGGamer

#81

OGGamer said:

Consider need for speed on my tablet deleted and EA games banned from my household. I don't think I'll be the only one either.

Neram

#82

Neram said:

The "it is an utterly intentional decision to focus our resources on markets which actually matter" bit will be the thing that gets him in trouble. Speaking on behalf of your employer over Twitter is a big no-no. I'm surprised someone in his position would be stupid enough to actually do something like this, regardless of how true or false he is. This was just plain dumb.

CasuallyDressedStaff

#83

CasuallyDressed said:

I'd just like to know how the 'tablet' is 'weird'? Like, how is it weird? Come on dude, how is the GamePad 'weird' in any way?

GiftedGimp

#84

GiftedGimp said:

To be fair to him although he's wrong about it being gen4 and it is indeed gen8 EA have only been relevent in the games publishing world for about 4 generations.
Which goes to show, since they are now losing a lot of money, making cutbacks, getting Voted Worst US company 2 years running (all the anti gay groups fault nothing to do with EA themselves you understand.. yeh right), generally losing public support and upseting potential customers across all platforms, for various reasons, like bs reasons for no support on WiiU, to always connected games like Sims, that then don't work to more and more reliance on day 1 dlc and micro transactions that Much sooner, rather than later EA are going to go the way of the dodo... a lot sooner than Nintendo will anyway.
Wonder if he or EA realise that statments like this could potentially damage sales and public relations on all platforms. There are Many fans of Nintendo that also own other platforms, potentially making them think twice about supporting EA in anyway on any platform that person may own. I assume they do otherwise the tweets wouldn't of been removed.

Tsuchiya

#85

Tsuchiya said:

Calm down, it's just his opinion.
We all have those here and just like him, we are all entitled to voice them.
Saying that though, I wish I never bad mouthed Mario here.

Got me a Miiverse stalker for my troubles.

MrCharles77

#86

MrCharles77 said:

That's why they are considered the worst company...I play multiplatform and there are some EA titles that I like, and that look more amazing on WiiU . The best version o NFS is on the WiiU, Mass Effect 3 is also better in the WiiU...however Fifa is a piece of crap on Nintendo's platform...

From this day on I will not buy another EA title, I dont care how many titles they have. And I will not buy them even for PS4...I choose to support company's that make sense like WB, Ubisoft and Activison. If I don't play battlefield, I'll play call of dutty and far cry, If I dont play Fifa, I play PES, If I dont play NBA JAM I'll play 2ksports. This decision of EA will largely benefit all the other companies that support nintendo and other platforms.
For your information EA I pre-order dedsec edition of Watchdogs and I'm willing to pay 99£ for it, try to find someone on a mobile platform that pays that for a game...

The fact of EA's CEO sold all is stocks also means something...

Neram

#87

Neram said:

Somebody should make the "unprecedented partnership" thing a meme, to be used anytime someone makes big promises but epically fails to deliver them.

GiftedGimp

#88

GiftedGimp said:

@Tsuchiya Your right it is just his opinion, But there is something that should hold you back from blurting them onto twitter when you are talking on behalf of the company you work for.
Its called professionalism, Which these tweets shown absolutly non. I early refered to these tweets as something 12yr olds would post on forums, but if I'm honest even most 12yr olds wouldn't sink so low.

brandonbwii

#89

brandonbwii said:

EA is very very business. Sure all games are business but EA is to a fault. EA's Wii games sold modestly well but since they couldn't sell, like a bajillion copies on the system it was considered a failure.

I also hate what EA has done to Fuse aka Overstrike. Obviously selling a shooter that doesn't take itself seriously was considered to risky. Now it looks like every other game out there.

It's not like Ubisoft, who can lose money and still somehow support Wii U.

Royalblues

#90

Royalblues said:

Shame, shame.
Stupid comment on a public site.
Oh, well.

Whether or not what he said has any merit, one thing is for sure. The Wii U better pick up with third parties.
Anyway, I hardly play anything but sports games, pokemon and a handful of other titles, and concerning those areas, EA has nothing of quality. Last Madden I bought was 8 years ago. And their NBA games are crap compared to 2K games.

WaLzgiStaff

#91

WaLzgi said:

Stay classy. I'll see you in the unemployment line, Mr. Summerwill ;)

HeatBombastic

#93

HeatBombastic said:

I can handle criticism, but this is just lies and exaggerations.

I don't even think that this can be stretched to even the broadest definition of opinion.

This is what he declares as fact. Yes, people say "this is good" as in "I like it" even though those are two different things. I don't know if he's getting paid or whatever, but these unprofessional comments were a completely stupid action to take. Not just opinion, I think people can generally agree with me on that.

Sinister

#94

Sinister said:

Well if he thinks Nintendo Consoles are crap thats fine.
I think Origin is the biggest piece of poop ever created. Tbh even viruses and other malware is better than that.

And Origin is the sole reason why EA is so pissed right now. They wanted to push Origin on the WiiU but Nintendo said "Hell no!".
After that the unprecedented partnership ended.

Olaf-symbiote

#95

Olaf-symbiote said:

"Nintendo are" just annoys me. Sorry, I know it's common UK English, but I see no way how a single company can be a plural even if it consisted of millions of people. You might just as well say "The world are," etc. Just my poisonal preference, though, so don't y'all get upset, now.

Anyway, EA sucks rectum, big time. They occasionally have a few gems among the turds, but usually their quality is even worse than Ubisoft's (a miracle, I know, considering how terrible Ubi is). I hope their revenue drops big time because of this "exclusion crisis." Maybe then they'll see how childishly biased they are. Personally, I don't need EA's (a.k.a Evil Airplaneholes') "games" AT ALL, so good riddance.

HeatBombastic

#98

HeatBombastic said:

@Olaf-symbiote Since when was Ubi a bad publisher? I know the released crappy games during 6th gen, and the Rayman delay was handled horribly, but aren't their game good? Rayman Origins is fantastic, and so far so is Rayman: Legends.

Tsuchiya

#99

Tsuchiya said:

@GiftedGimp

Fair opinion, unprofessional whatever, Twitter is the swollen, oozing cyst of the internet. If you like toast, eat it. No need to clog up your phone with marmalade telling me about it.

The 1990's thing... yeah maybe

Olaf-symbiote

#100

Olaf-symbiote said:

@HeatBombastic Ubi does have some good games, but the fact they had all those crappy games like Babyz, Horsez, etc., along with horrible licensed games like Avatar and also the millions of Raving Rabbids games, just ruined their image for me, although I agree Rayman's good. They also rehash Assasin's GREED far too much. I know many people disagree w/me, but Ubi has been pretty mediocre to me recently.

SwerdMurd

#101

SwerdMurd said:

is it just me or is durango literally the worst name ever chosen for a console? It sucked enough as the name of a truck.... Now it's just sad.

tripunktoj

#103

tripunktoj said:

I know I am listening/reading a person (often a child) ignorant about gaming when they refer to the WiiU/nextbox/PS4 as Gen4 and think generations are defined by graphics.

DudeSean

#104

DudeSean said:

I think they're just upset because Mass Effect 3 hasn't done very well on Wii U. I didn't get ME3 because I didn't play the first 2 and I know nothing about the game.

Roachant

#106

Roachant said:

Guys, I love Nintendo as well, I read this site daily, but I am a bit concerned that the WiiU will fail and things like this just add to my concern. There has always been bashing against Nintendo by Sony fanboys and whatnot but the fact that the bashing is done by the biggest video game company out there, no matter how crappy they are, Worries me that Nintendo may have seriously messed up with the WiiU.

Syntax

#107

Syntax said:

@GN004Nadleeh <(^~^)>© ←here's a cookie!
I hope this user is just trolling to mess with us, because majority of today's generation of games really have this mentality, increasingly worse than any past generations.
Today's way of judgment for products are: How fast is this?, How many cores it has, whats the texture resolution? How much violence?, Is this what cool people are playing? If something don't meet those demand, even -slightly-,it will get rejected with support from ignorance.

Here's a cute story I made :-)
People are like hungry birds in the park and the big corporation is the old lady who throws bread at them, bread easily fills the bellies and very easy to get as long as the old lady visit. Some birds tried the bread and they liked it! Others saw this easy meals and they love it as well, in no time All but a few abandoned the seeds and berries diet just for bread. For the old lady, she enjoy the fun and attentions of the birds begging for her to feed them more bread. One day the old lady no longer visited for some reason, maybe she got sick or she lost interest of the birds and now feeds the goldfish. The birds where used to eating easy meals from the old lady, most didn't go back to eating seeds because they didn't look or taste like bread. Unfortunately for those birds they FAINTED from slow painful starvation while the seeds and berries eaters gained EXP's and lived on with their lives. Unfortunately many people (not just gamers) are those bread birds and it's only a matter of time before their ways will backfire severely.
I could probably explain this wall of text better but it's too long as is.

Tsuchiya

#108

Tsuchiya said:

@Roachant

The fanboys can hate all they want. Nintendo isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.
Nintendo has more rupees in the bank to stay afloat than that lot can even imagine. A lot more than the price of a shell suit let me tell you.

But be it Nintendo, Sony or MS, a casualty would be a blow for everyone. It wouldn't matter what system you're a hardcore fan of. Having any one of them fail would be another nail hammered into an already knackered looking coffin of an industry.

Gameday

#109

Gameday said:

Haha how bold , next thing you know they'll be claiming they were hacked and such. Either way that is embarrassing and poor judgement to post such things online being in the position he is...

If he doesn't get let go that is indeed an overall view on how they really feel about Nintendo. Everyone is entitled to their views. Id love to see a straight up interview on guys like this.

Syntax

#110

Syntax said:

Reactant@ don't worry about what others say about the Wii U, as long as we have this wonderful community and many others like this, Nintendo truly has nothing to worry about. let the haters hate us while were busy enjoying games!

Rugaard

#111

Rugaard said:

Saying it is not powerful is a very misinformed statement. The CPU on the Wii U is better because it is using tech that is more current than the 360...guess he does not understand how microprocessors work. Well he does work for EA so making money is the only thing he cares about so whatever lol.

Ackmans

#112

Ackmans said:

@Syntax lol EA making me laugh the only good games they have is battlefield and mass effect and make the worst game in the history of gaming

Syntax

#113

Syntax said:

@Ackmans don't assume that most of those games and developers from EA are automatically bad, that's like saying Criterion who ported the excellent NFSMW are horrible. The top leaders and some others should get the hate, not the ones who are just working to support themselves.

bassoongoon

#114

bassoongoon said:

It looks like this guy needs to learn proper grammar!

Subject-verb-predicate!

Also he states, "Nintendo are..."
Should it not be, "Nintendo IS?"

Ackmans

#116

Ackmans said:

dont care if ,my grammar in english suck I speak french and i'm from montreal
i just write in english for the comment

my sentence sound weird cause i dont know how to correctly say

Ackmans

#117

Ackmans said:

in french grammar is more complicated ... du genre je suis pas si sur si tu te débrouillerais auttend bien en français qu'en anglais

armoredghor

#120

armoredghor said:

hahaha Metroid prime has been called game of the year, eternal darkness is recognized as the greatest game of its genre, DS was highest selling console ever, Wii is a phenomenon that brought an explosion of new gamers, 3DS was just voted best console ever, and DS is codenamed developer's system. Mobile is still a secondary market-the tv to the movie theater. Resident evil 4 is still considered the best game on Gamecube. They beat Nintendo; its rare but doable; you just have to build something better than them for it to be more successful.

Davidiam007

#121

Davidiam007 said:

@GN004Nadleeh why is that every developer that HAS ACTUALLY developed for it says it is more powerful then the Xbox and ps3. Companies like crytek, criterion, ubisoft, shin'en, capcom, frozenbyte, slightly mad studios and even activision comment that it has enough juice to produce high quality games. Besides having the best graphics doesn't mean crap and all you're doing is being sheep in herded to think that graphics are everything. As for his comment about the ps3box being more powerful. I call bs. Both shin'en and frozenbyte states that their games will not run on those system. Example trine 2 directors cut is almost on par with PC version and neither Xbox or ps3 can run that version. You don't have to like the system as much as you don't have to be on here. FYI what this guy is doing is called dafamation and is a legal issue. I hope nintendo files a law suit against ea.

GiftedGimp

#122

GiftedGimp said:

@Roachant Seriously 95% of the WiiU negativity originate from EA and EA published developers. 1% is from Nintendo/WiiU fans who want release dates for big 1st party games and the other 4% is split betwenn a couple of other devs and Sony/Ms fanboy sites/forums.
For instance, EA published Crytek said the cryengine3 doesn't run very well on WiiU.. yet Precursor Games are using it for Shadow of the Eternals game and say WiiU fully supports the engine and it runs fine. http://mynintendonews.com/2013/05/15/precursor-games-cryengine-3-fully-supports-wii-u/
Same will Stand for all those Various Game Engines that WiiU can't supposedly Run.
Shows what a difference the WiiU is capable of depending on if the developer or thier publisher wants to support the system.
If like most people here you enjoy your WiiU console then there is really no need to worry, there is a lot of support for the console, but as is always the case regardless of the topic Bad News always attracts the most media and public attention.
Besides the Kinectbox has already had comments from certain developers about Bottleneck issues, a factor which stopped the ps3 from out powering the 360 despite on paper the ps3 being quite a bit more powerfull, and its not going to be all sunshine and roses for Microsoft or Sony despite what people think or expect.

Yoshis_VGM

#124

Yoshis_VGM said:

@GN004Nadleeh $20 for an adventure on the same scale as the original game (82 newly remastered levels) with a 5-player multiplayer experience, full 1080p HD graphics running at 60fps? And, from the gameplay footage we've seen, an adventure that's much more challenging than the original adventure? And for only a third of the price (half if you buy the separate package)? Seriously?

Yeah, as someone else said, go enjoy your FPS games while we play quality platforming games.

Prof_Elvin_Gadd

#125

Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

I'm done with all this Nintendo hate from jealous people. EA wishes that people loved them as much as people love Nintendo, plain and simple. They are butt hurt from the Origin fallout and obviously have plenty of morons that work for them. Most, if not all of their games are subpar anyhow. This new relationship with SEGA, a company that I respect a million times more than EA, is great for Nintendo. All EA is trying to do is make people go against Nintendo since Nintendo really wants nothing to do with them.

Nintendo and it's fans are the greatest people on earth. All these fools, as I stated earlier, are jealous of the love Nintendo gets and feel the need to hate on them to make themselves feel better. Those respectable people who just don't enjoy Nintendo's games don't say anything, and go about playing the games that they like without feeling the need to stir up meaningless drama. This guy is like the Jersey Shore of video game developers. End of story.

SunnyShores

#126

SunnyShores said:

EA sucks anyways. and obviously loyalty means nothing. i will never buy EA no matter what now. i know i'm only one person but one can make a difference. so long EA you'll never see another penny. Nintendo's third party support will rise once it establishes it's place in the market.

The key for third party support is 1st party games. how strange.

Mizzah_Tee

#128

Mizzah_Tee said:

@bizcuthammer said:
"At the same time, he did make a valid point; many nintendo fans are guilty of only buying first party games on Wii U and 3DS..."

I'm really getting tired of this talking point. If 3rd parties didn't give Nintendo fans gimped ports with little to no support after release, maybe we would buy their games. Do they think we're stupid? We get late releases without the full features and we're supposed to swoon? We can't help that we're spoiled by Nintendo's quality and we expect games to not be buggy, unfinished crap with day one dlc and game modes that shoud be in the game sold to us cause they are greedy...

Luffy

#131

Luffy said:

dam just lost respect for EA. If this guy doesn't get fired I will not buy the next mass effect. The only EA game I buy anyways. I will suffer and not enjoy the next one. I'll take one for the team. I can't enjoy a game knowing it is run by douche bags.

Prof_Elvin_Gadd

#132

Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

@Midnight3DS And the 3DS is weaker than the Vita, yet the 3DS is ten times better. That really makes no difference. Someone could make the most powerful home console ever and yet have a huge library of crap games and no one would buy it. Anyhow, I think your scientific reasoning is a bit unscientific. Check your facts from a reliable trusted source please, and that doesn't mean a stupid forum full of morons or googling it.

It's funny how gullible some of you people are. Look up that word. You can google that.

Prof_Elvin_Gadd

#135

Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

@Midnight3DS Usually jokes are half serious, hence the reply. I'm not mad, me and you have had some nice conversation before, it just gets a bit ridiculous when everyone and their mother has to choose a side on this topic.

Furthermore, I know that you know that games make a system. And games are what gaming is all about.

Midnight3DS

#138

Midnight3DS said:

@Wilford111

Well, the Wii had 78 (I believe) EA published games, and the Wii-U has 4, and that may be it. This, to some extent, may be a 'to be determined' scenario.

McGruber

#142

McGruber said:

Some of what he says is truth, but Im sure EA will at least want to put games that sell (Boom Blox 3 anyone?) on WiiU at some point, making him an idiot.

DiSTANToblivion

#143

DiSTANToblivion said:

This arrogant unprofessional f***wit will hopefully be fired fairly soon. As far as I'm concerned EA has been a s*** company for a long time, making a monopoly out of sports titles and acting like they own the gaming world. This guy is a complete moron.

BATRA

#144

BATRA said:

these are people making star wars for ps4 and xbox i feel sorry for them ea is the worst game maker

TySoN_F

#146

TySoN_F said:

Lol sure EA, try actually having something worthwhile to back you up before you take on Nintendo. Nintendo may not make everything they touch gold, but at least they don't turn everything to poop like EA.

SteveW

#147

SteveW said:

Focus on mobile? go ahead and release all your freemium crap there while real game companies like Nintendo are making the quality games.

They ruined Sim City, I bet part of them dropping support is that Nintendo won't support their DRM crap...

Meaty-cheeky

#148

Meaty-cheeky said:

Its time to Boycott EA everyone!!!

EA needs to learn a lesson, we need to stop feeding this crappy company and stop purchasing any games from them from any system including phones and tablets.

Oscarsome

#151

Oscarsome said:

Yeah, the Wii U is struggling. Everyone knows that. EA leaving Nintendo is because the Wii U is just not making money, so why would they waste time and money releasing games for it? That makes sense, sure. However, this guy is acting like a child having a tantrum. You have to be professional. You are in the public eye and represent an enormous company; you need to be smart and classy. He just lost credibility and respect. Way to burn some bridges, Summerwill.

Oscarsome

#152

Oscarsome said:

Man, I just can't wait until Nintendo comes out of this slump and shows all these people what they can truly do.

SethNintendo

#153

SethNintendo said:

EA can **** off. Stop posting anything dealing with EA. EA boycott since late 90s. I haven't regretted it one bit. EA just plain sucks and ruins IPs of companies they buy. Video game industry is full of immature *****.

QuickSilver88

#155

QuickSilver88 said:

Lord this guy is a tool.....I mean honestly people if this brings me down at all its because this war between two of the biggest names in Video games is not really good for anyone.....not good for Nintendo, EA, gamers, or the many devs EA owns. This guy is entitled to his opinion but many devs have expressed quite a bit of enthusiasm form doing projects on Wii-U and with gamepad. Its why older ports like Sniper V2 and Dues EX may be worth buying and playing and why those games as well as NFS MW are considered the definitive versions. As others have said anyone actually deving on the U has said it is more powerful than ps360. What EA and its employees are doing is defamation and a smear campaign and is very irresponsible and unprofessional. Also EA are notorious whores...When Wii-U sales pick up and one of their devs has a title concept that is well suited to Nintendo's audience then EA will publish it.....think about it people what they are doing is they have decided not to support the U.....so they don't want you buying it because then they won't have you as a potential customer, so they are defaming it so you will save your money and buy the systems they support later this year. I respect Nintendo for keeping quite and the tables will be turned because Wii-U should have 10mil user base before the others are out of the gate....truly I think Microsoft could be the one in trouble as they have sold like less than 100K consoles in japan in two generation and if the rumors are true they are going to be pretty much a USA only platform while Sony and Nintendo are worldwide!

monkeydthunder

#157

monkeydthunder said:

@bizcuthammer
Yes Nintendo Wii U owners need to buy 3rd party games, but its hard to blame them when 9/10 the 3rd party game is a port missing features, missing engines, missing dlc, etc... When a 3rd party goes all out on the PS3/360 version but doesn't even try on Wii / Wii U versions, ofcourse its going to sell bad.

Hell, EA was upset that Mass Effect 3 didn't sell well on Wii U. Gee... could part of the reason be that EA released around the same time the Mass Effect Trilogy for PS3 & 360... and at a cheaper price... while giving Wii U owners ONLY part 3 with missing dlc and for a higher price than trilogy.

Yes to get more 3rd party support for Wii U, 3rd party games need to sell on Wii U. But if they want the 3rd party games to sell, they need to stop with half-assed ports.

Kage_88

#158

Kage_88 said:

EA really is an awful company, isn't it? After all the crap it has put people through and the insanely-bad decisions it has made, this Bob Summerwill dude has the gall to trash Nintendo?

I cannot believe the stupidity of some of these industry "professionals". With loudmouths like Phil Fish and Adam Orth, I'm getting more and more tempted to stop buying western games all-together (obviously I won't...but goddamn, I don't see Japanese devs being this ignorant and annoying).

After seeing the latest Nintendo Direct, I really could not care less about EA's generic and buggy titles (not that I did before). As more of these anti-Nintendo stories are published, the more I'm convinced that EA are simply bitter about Nintendo's refusal to bend-over backwards for them.

Summerwill says that Nintendo still thinks "it's 1990" and that is should have "done a SEGA". What kind of crap is this? This is something that I would expect from an uninformed internet nitwit, not a senior designer at one of the world's largest game companies. Has he even SEEN Sega lately? The company is a shadow of its former self, not to mention the rough shape that Sony and Microsoft are in:

http://playeressence.com/microsoft-and-sony-are-closer-to-going-third-party-than-nintendo-lets-get-the-facts-straight/

Yeah, Nintendo really are "walking dead", aren't they?

He then says Nintendo should stop faffing about, and just focus on making "great games". Um...hello? Nintendo has been doing this for 30 years. It has never stopped. Luigi's Mansion 2? Fire Emblem? Mario Bros. U? eShop? Hello? Anyone there?

The only somewhat accurate thing he says is in regards to 3rd party revenue...but EA aren't exactly making things easy for themselves. On Wii U, They release Mass Effect 3 - instead of the trilogy pack, and a half-assed port of FIFA '13...and the suits wonder why sales are poor?

Jesus.

Caryslan

#159

Caryslan said:

EA must not be happy just being a two-time winner of the "Worst Company In America" award , since they are also trying to win the "Stupidest Company in America" as well. While I was willing to give EA some benefit of the doubt over this mess with Nintendo, my opinion has changed since they are handing this issue with the maturity of a small child that did not get a candy bar.

Rather then taking the high road and maybe put out a message like "While we like Nintendo and it's systems, we have no game in developments while we review our support on Nitnendo's platforms." That's all that needs to be said. make one statement and then walk away. If the time comes for EA to renew their support of Nintendo, then they can easily walk back into the fold.

But instead of taking a logical step that still keeps the doors open for both parties, EA goes on the warpath. Day after day, they flooded Twitter and the internet with another attack on Nintendo. Its not even like their hiding it. I have never seen a third-party unleash such venom against a first-party company. It's pathetic, it's childish, and its just plain stupid.

EA might have an easier time pulling this off were it not for the recent failures that were Medal of Honor: Warfighter, Crysis 3, and Dead Space 3. And this is the thing, even the support form gamers on the Playstation and Xbox are not as stable as they once were. All gamers, regardless of their given support are getting sick of EA's antics. I was looking forward to Sim City until I heard about the stupid always online requirements. I have not intention of buying it, I'll just stick to Sim City 3000.

Its EA's right to decide how they support each platform. And while the lack of support on Nintendo's platforms would suck, it might have been more understandable had EA taken the high road. But in the pettiest fashion possible, they have flooded the internet with rants, lies, and some of the most immature statements I have ever seen from a large company.

What boggles the mind is the how idiotic they are acting. Three high-profile games have all flopped on The Xbox 360, PS3, and PC, and they think burning their bridges with Nintendo is a good idea? Who is running their company, Peter Griffin?

On a personal note, they offended me with their 4th generation comment. Even if we go by the generations where EA was a major player on consoles, they are still skipping the 16-bit era. In essence, they are ignoring Sega who helped play a major role in making them the company that they are today. Of course, given their lack of support towards the Dreamcast, I suppose its intentional.

The good news is that EA is most likely the clear favorite to win their third "Worst Company in America award." If they can pull this off, they will be a triple crown winner of being the worst company when it comes to screwing their customers.

Go EA Go!!!!

3dbrains

#160

3dbrains said:

I have need for speed on the WiiU. If EA had made it, it would be crap.
How come it looks and runs better on wiiU than any other console - if it's less powerful than a xbox360?

EA = DOOMED

EvisceratorX

#161

EvisceratorX said:

I'd be extremely surprised if this guy doesn't get fired in the next few weeks. This could've potentially destroyed any chance of collaboration between these companies in the next few years and although some people don't wanna admit it, not EVERYONE at EA hates Nintendo. I don't see any place in the workplace for men like this and his arrogance may have just cost him his job.

doctor_doak

#162

doctor_doak said:

The success of Nintendo's console doesn't rely on EA's games and it never has. Nintendo 1st & 2nd party, collaborations with other development studios like Atlus, Sega, and Platinum Games and the odd 3rd party releases from Ubisoft (douchebags) and WB perhaps will get the job done. Sure it's not off to a great start, but I think things will be different by the end of the year (gameswise). Nintendo do things 'differently', and their consoles are designed with themselves in mind first and foremost. I think this is the source of much of the angst. Hopefully there are more 'collaborations' like Bayonetta 2, SMTxFE, Wonderful 101, etc.. because Nintendo do need to fill the gaps b/w the 1st party stuff in the absence of 3rd party support.

shyoff

#163

shyoff said:

@mingzu mostly Nintendo fans Have more Than one consoles. I Have ps3 and 3ds handheld. Guess What. No more ps3 games buy from EA, 3ds Either and pc (really liked sims). Lets gonna get those barstewards To Bankrupt!!!.

Chunky_Droid

#165

Chunky_Droid said:

I liked the 4th gen comment, I never realised EA were into making games for the PSX, N64 and Saturn.

SethNintendo

#168

SethNintendo said:

Gen 4 = EA lives in its own secluded world. If only I lived in a world secluded from EA. EA is cancer.

tigermask

#169

tigermask said:

If my wife didn't play The Sims, I wouldn't allow any EA games in my house. Fun fact of the day, the A stands for Arts! I almost forgot! Seems like EA forgot a long time ago!

CrabGats

#170

CrabGats said:

Well this tells me two things. One is definitely that the people at the head of EA clearly lack a functioning brain, the other one is to make sure I never buy an EA game again.

ErnisDy

#171

ErnisDy said:

I agree with him. I love not my 3ds, I love the games on it. PSVita is so much better piece of hardware. I have Wii, while it has some nice games, it's absolutely destroyed by motion gimmick, started to play Pandora's Tower, and cmon, why the hell I have to shake the controller every time I want my chain back?

diavu

#172

diavu said:

that guy has no idea what he is doing, why does he want to make games for the N64, playstation and sega saturn? we are in generation 8 now.

he is just trash talking because he wants attention and he has, probably every nintendo news site is picking this up. the console is obviously more powerful than gen7, EA just don't want to work with it.

Best_

#174

Best_ said:

Since everyone seems to be bashing Nintendo, it appears that Nintendo's old nemesis Sega seem to be getting closer and closer. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if Sega comes back into the console war, only this time, it will be joint with Nintendo to destroy the the competition and regain superiority in the game industry that they establish. The next Nintendo console should have Sega involved with the development.

banacheck

#175

banacheck said:

We're on Generation 8 of consoles,

When did Microsoft, Sony & Nintendo all sit down and define there consoles in generations?, and i would think it's pretty much impossible for some consoles to be in there 8th generation, when they haven't even been around that long. So he is bang on when he says some console are only in there 4 generation, and that got nothing to do with power.

Sceptic

#176

Sceptic said:

"Crap" was a stupid and exaggerated way of putting it but he's absolutely on the mark that the tablet is a lame offering by today's standards and the webshop is a bad joke in every respect (purchases are not even account based. Nuff said.). If third-party revenue was always bad with Nintendo, he's the one that can judge that better than any of us.

I absolutely agree that Nintendo is still operating 15 or 20 years behind the times.

SanderEvers

#177

SanderEvers said:

Lol bashing the store?

EA, we can't bash YOUR store (Origin) because is it's too stupid for bashing.

And yes, this is still all about the "we want every single Wii U game to use Origin"-rubbish.

Meaty-cheeky

#178

Meaty-cheeky said:

I have all three systems and I will not buy a EA game again until this Nintendo hate stops. Lol I'm going to have to keep the Need for Speed and Sim games on the down low, so my fiancé doesn't know about them haha, to make this boycott successful in my house haha.

BigBluePanda

#179

BigBluePanda said:

Not to get fanboy-ish, but last I checked, the Wii outsold both the PS3 and XBOX360 in the last console war, both casual and hardcore gamers.

Why do game developers get this perception that Nintendo must go multi-format?

evanescent_hero

#180

evanescent_hero said:

@banacheck
The Wii U, PS4, and Nextbox are all part of the eighth generation of home video game consoles. This man referring to this generation as Gen 4 makes him sound like an idiot. Even if you want to ignore the two generations before Nintendo entered the console business, this would be the sixth generation; however, this is Gen 8. Were EA making games for Gen 4, they'd be working on some SNES titles. Actually, probably not, since EA doesn't like Nintendo; they'd be working on SEGA's console.

banacheck

#181

banacheck said:

Some console haven't even been around for 8 generations and thats just fact, and when he says 4th generation he is on about that console, not consoles that has got nothing to do with that brand.

Kirk

#183

Kirk said:

All this reiterates to me is that the Wii U is in big trouble right now.

Most next-gen developers just don't give a crap about it. The hardware is under-powered. The console isn't selling. The third party support just isn't there.

Nintendo really needs to take a step back and figure out how to make this thing sell and fast...

How about dropping the price of console by say $25-$50.

How about reducing all the VC titles to more reasonable prices for what they are; $0.99 for NES games, $1.99 for SNES games and $2.99 for N64 games for example.

How about getting more VC titles on the console much faster as well as announcing support for far more platforms too (GC, Dreamcast, Amiga, Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, even Wii).

How about integrating all the VC and eShop services into one unified store so it's easier and more practical for everyone to access and use.

How about making it that if you download a VC game it's cross compatible so you can transfer and play it on any of your Nintendo systems that have a VC or eShop.

How about making digital download versions of retail titles much cheaper than the boxed versions so that they're actually good value propositions.

How about adding in the option to let people activate CD/DVD playback.

How about including silly stuff like Wii U Panorama View free and bundled with the console, or at least make it a free download, rather than ripping people off for what is basically a totally throwaway gimmicky App.

How about getting some more AAA first party titles on the system fast/now (since the third party support really isn't there).

If Nintendo did all these things I'm 100% sure it would help kickstart the system and increase sales.

At least try these things to get the system moving and to get it into the hearts and minds of gamers and consumers, for Christ sake!

This thing is dying a death and you've got to do something more drastic than tell us at E3 that there a few totally predictable and expected first party AAA games coming as some point in the future, for the love of God!

Kirk

#184

Kirk said:

@evanescent_hero

Which interstingly is exactly what happened with EA's sports brands for Genesis/Meagdrive, and probably quite a few of it's other non-sports games although I can't remember off-hand, in the 16bit era.

Looks a bit like history is repeating itself in that respect unfortunately.

banacheck

#185

banacheck said:

SanderEvers said:
@banacheck Console generations aren't determined by brand.

I know, but to say modern day consoles are on there 8th generation, and consoles are not computers which are grouped together.

@diavu
N64, playstation and sega saturn? we are in generation 8 now.

I don't think he could if he even wanted too, considering consoles like N64, Playstation, Sega Saturn where not even around in the 4th gen, when grouping consoles.

Marshi

#186

Marshi said:

@GN004Nadleeh The wiiu is a powerful system dude.It can power 2 screens at once which takes alot of juice.But when did power become such a selling point?!You want power get a pc. I bought wiiu for the games and though admittedly slow to start,the big guns are starting to apear.Have faith dude.Unless you dont own a wiiu and you're just trolling in which case you know where you can stick your opinion

MakeMyBiscuit

#187

MakeMyBiscuit said:

Each system has its strengths and weaknesses. I don't have a Wii U but I do have an Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii. If he can't maximize the strength of each system then he is a bad Software Engineer and Architect and needs to get the boot. There are plenty of other people who would love to have his job.

BTW I thought the Tiger Woods Golf games sold big for EA on the Wii That was a game that took advantage of the Wii's unique abilities and it sold well.

MrCharles77

#189

MrCharles77 said:

Today EA confirmed no FIFA14 on WiiU.

Hope that nintendo lauch a Metroid Anthology, and a Galaxy Triology in Full HD with gamepad support for the WiiU.

LavaTwilight

#191

LavaTwilight said:

What a pompous jerk! Like he's king of gaming? I've never even heard of him. I still won't recognise his name, and he made Fifa11? Next year you won't be able to give that game away! Talk about 'crap' lol.

Smitherenez

#192

Smitherenez said:

I would like to know what the situation would be like in a few years! Maybe the wiiU will do bad, it's entirely possible (but that will probably mean that the other consoles will do bad too)! The opposite can also be the truth, and maybe then EA will come back, and all of a sudden they will love the wiiu, because there is a lot of money to milk out of the consoles' owners. Basically it is like stabbing someone in the back, to say sorry later and rob them from their money. I think that this guy can have is opinion, but please: keep it to yourself. If you want an angry horde of nintendo fans to burn you alive with fire flowers and stab you with their collection of master swords, this is the way to get their attention.

AceTrainerBean

#193

AceTrainerBean said:

That was so unprofessional he could lose his job over that. The other thing is when wii u is doing as well as the 3ds is now he will probz be all over Nintendo saying how great they are. I hate people who kick you while your down but love you when your on top.

SilentHunter382

#195

SilentHunter382 said:

Wow. Well that was very unprofessional. Well I would be more shocked to see if he didn't get fired because of this. It's one thing to have an opinion on something but this is going to the point were it can get you in trouble.

Even though you know that EA are not supporting the Wii U but with everything they have said about the Wii U atleast the way they said it left the door opened for them to make games for it in the future but then this moron comes on and makes the situation for EA that much worse.

Farmboy74

#196

Farmboy74 said:

If Nintendo are the walking dead, does this make Nintendo a hit TV series, comic book and episodic game?!!!
While Nintendo in my opinion have made mistakes in the launch of the Wii U, they're far from going out of business yet or stop making hardware.
I think this guy may be picking up his P45 soon, as we all know what happened with the Microsoft # dealwithit situation

C-Olimar

#198

C-Olimar said:

I feel sorry for Ubisoft in general... they're obviously a terrible business who never make any money, since they've always been supportive of Nintendo platforms....

GiftedGimp

#201

GiftedGimp said:

@evanescent_hero
" Were EA making games for Gen 4, they'd be working on some SNES titles. Actually, probably not, since EA doesn't like Nintendo; they'd be working on SEGA's console."

Thinking back to my Megadrive(Genesis) / Snes days.. Road Rash, Madden and other EA games were released on Megadrive, but I can't remember seeing any EA games on Snes.
Can't say 100% EA didn't release anything on SNES, but if they did, they didn't release many games on Snes compared to Megadrive.

Datasun_7

#203

Datasun_7 said:

So much hate :P but hey not much of a fan of EA, can't say I've actually bought any of their games for a little while, Xbox or Nintendo platform

pntjr

#204

pntjr said:

Screw this guy, screw his company, and screw everything he stands for.

I never liked EA anyways. I only need them for Madden.

Linkmaster9

#205

Linkmaster9 said:

EA says that the wii u is not worth it but the sales figures tell otherwise.
4 months after all big three consoles launched (xbox360, wiiu and ps3) these were the sales figures for each console:
Playstation 3: 2million
Xbox 360: 2.4 million
Wii u: 2.6 million
The wii u outsold the xbox and playstation in the SAME time and EVERYONE and their mother still talks doodoo about it.

Midnight3DS

#206

Midnight3DS said:

^ PS3 sales were pretty impressive then, considering the system was double the cost of Wii-U.

Austroid

#207

Austroid said:

The worst part is that he acts so casual about dissing Nintendo.

The post with "One more : - ) ." really rubs me the wrong way. Just the fact he used an emoticon is childish, he's an adult bashing a company for really just the sake of it.

SetupDisk

#208

SetupDisk said:

How is the Wii U weaker than the 360 when they already have a EA game which is far more impressive than the XBOX 360 version because it has assets from the PC version the 360 couldn't handle?. How is the Online store poor? Any company that has wanted to add DLC has it on there and it works fine. Plus they put up the full retail versions like the other shops.

sethlaw225

#210

sethlaw225 said:

WoW did he just say "make good games" LMAO!! Make good games like what? MADDEN, FIFA, NBA LIVE/Elite (cancelled twice), NHL, any game that was developed by EA not Published by them is CRAP.

Akira1975

#211

Akira1975 said:

I won't be buying any EA games as long as he continues to work there. For ANY of the platforms I own. Buying a game from EA now would be the equivalent of paying for a slap in the face. No Thanks!

DarkNinja9

#212

DarkNinja9 said:

while part of this might be true i find it more funny how this guy just threw his job out the window O_O

Chomposaur

#213

Chomposaur said:

Damn 214 comments and rising .. way to rile up the community .. :-

Regarding the Twitter comments
"You cannot delete the internet"

warlordovblood

#214

warlordovblood said:

Very unprofessional. What is it with people wanting nintendo to sink? I own and have played most of the major consoles but nintendo has and always will be my favorite. I just don't see how ea is better off than nintendo. You can tell he's talking out of his ahem..rear end.

FullbringIchigo

#216

FullbringIchigo said:

looks like EA and Nintendo still hasn't made up

but honestly EA are a bunch of XBOX fanboys anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if sometime in the next year they say they will making games exclusively for the next xbox

and honestly what will Nintendo be missing without EA, Battlefield, FIFA and Star Wars and when was the last time there was a good game in any of those franchises?

also he said to concentrate on Mobile and Gen4....Gen4 he does realise that computer gaming started before the PS1 era right this is Gen8 how the hell can you trust the opinion of a guy who works in the game industry and doesn't even know when it started

FullbringIchigo

#220

FullbringIchigo said:

@H_Hunter nah EA are still peed off because Nintendo wouldn't use Origin as their online platform which would have given EA full control of all of Nintendo's online functions

and can you blame Nintendo for not doing that i mean would you?

The_Fox

#221

The_Fox said:

Don't drink and tweet, kids. It kills jobs.

Edit: Regarding those talking about the "EA voted the worst company in the country" thing, anyone who actually agrees with that poll is a fool.
......I suddenly feel so dirty for defending EA.

hydeks

#224

hydeks said:

these comments seem really stupid and childish from this guy. Wii U isn't less powerful than a 360, what an idiot, and power isn't everything. After alot of time with the Wii U last night, I have to say it's a way more impressive system than I thought it was, and I hope more people support it :)

FullbringIchigo

#225

FullbringIchigo said:

@hydeks the thing is without EA the Wii U will do fine and once games like the next Sonic, Zelda and Super Smah Bros are released the system will sell like hot cakes

and like i said before without EA what will we miss Battlefront well the Wii U is getting the next COD so that should keep the FPS fans happy, FIFA well once EA actually start making a good FIFA game maybe we will care and of course Star Wars but i don't think Disny will like them leaving out the Wii U because Disney like to make as much as possible so they will want them on every system they can get them on

ChubbyPanda

#226

ChubbyPanda said:

I'm beginning to get worried about the Wii U, I feel like there is going to be a serious amount of neglect from third parties and as much as I try to stay optimistic I really think the Wii U needs third party games. I mean yeah the Wii still did amazing without 3rd party titles but at least the Wii was fairly inexpensive. The Wii U on the hand is not. Especially when in the current market someone could pick up a PS/360 for £180 and have a large amount of games to play. I really want N to make this work because I had high hopes for the Wii U.

Sceptic

#228

Sceptic said:

@FullbringIchigo: Seriously? Someone would buy a WiiU just to play Zelda or Mario? I simply can't imagine that. This thing is expensive and way to limited i it's scope and those games are 'retro' by any standards. That doesn't mean they are bad, but I feel consumers want more than just a HD-version of what they already own.

I've had to conclude that the Wii U is just an oversized 3ds. You get the same thing out of it and little more. It's 'just' a gaming console, whereas other manufacturers have made home entertainment devices out of their systems. I bought it thinking at the price, more features would be added in no time, but I've come to realize that Nintendo doesn't even feel they are missing. Miiverse and Mario is where it's all at for them. If it wasn't for Google we wouldn't even have youtube.

This thing is actually meant to just sit in your living-room shelf until someone says "hey, how about some Mario?" and for that it's way to expensive.

bunnyking

#229

bunnyking said:

LOL, I don't think it matters since EA already isn't releasing games on the Wii U, I'm sure we will get games, of course, I'll have to buy two consoles this again, nothing has changed much since the 90's.

UnseatingKDawg

#231

UnseatingKDawg said:

OK, this guy needs to get off his high horse. He says Nintendo should make great games? They already do! They're better than most of EA's crap. He says that Nintendo should "do a SEGA". I think he's jealous that EA doesn't have their own console...

scrubbyscum999

#234

scrubbyscum999 said:

Well this was a good laugh. EA of all companies. Isn't that in the dictionary for the epitome of maker of mass produced garbage?

G3ry

#235

G3ry said:

He is speaking in 3rd person and replaces ea with the word Nintendo!
PLEASE SUPPORT 3RD PARTY TITLES ON WII U & 3DS!!!

Kelevra

#236

Kelevra said:

@GN004Nadleeh I have to agree with what you said, I'm a Nintendo fan and they really NOT DO IT with the Wii U, I can't defend it anymore against other consoles.

R_Champ

#238

R_Champ said:

@WesGrogan

It seems strange that almost everyone thinks that Nintendo fans only own one system. I won't be getting an EA games for my 360 either. Not because of these tweets either. Sure, they are unprofessional, but after ruining Bioware--previously one of the world's best devs--I'm surprised anyone jumps to their defense or tries to scold Nintendo fans for hating them.

ecco6t9

#239

ecco6t9 said:

Kicking Orcs & Elves out of my collection. Sorry it may be an id Software game but has the stench of EA's logo on it.

TheAdrock

#241

TheAdrock said:

EA hasn't been relevant in years. P.S. The Xbox 360 is a horrendously bad console, in terms of design, interface, performance, and that stupid $10/mo fee just to connect online.

Sir_Deadly

#242

Sir_Deadly said:

@GN004Nadleeh soo your saying this and your on a Nintendo site y??? yea thats what i thought. Stop that garbage that is comming out of your mouth. bye bye

FullbringIchigo

#244

FullbringIchigo said:

@Sceptic yes people will buy a console for one game or one game series if they love the series that much including myself i got a Wii U for Zelda because i love the Zelda series, now i wasn't planing on getting one until the new Zelda actually came out but when my Wii's disc drive broke i thought "why not get it now" as i can still play all my Wii games on it

i even got a 360 just because of Splinter Cell while i had all the others on GameCube Conviction was only on 360

and the only reason i got a PS3 was because at the time Final Fantasy XIII was exclusive to it

but i have a good amount of games on each system now and i tend to rotate what console i get a game on,

but i will say this i grew up with Nintendo and i think i will always own one no matter what

Slapshot

#245

Slapshot said:

This is one of the most unprofessional things I've seen from a senior level employee for one of the major companies in the gaming industry. If I was his superior, Mr. Summerwill would be without a job right now.

Saturn

#246

Saturn said:

He is a game dev not a critic. Very unprofessional of a guy being held up to high standards.

Saturn

#247

Saturn said:

@Kirk If anyone is in trouble it's EA. The 3DS can provide Nintendo coverage long enough to build the Wii U a great enough install base to woo over third parties.

Saturn

#248

Saturn said:

@GN004Nadleeh Graphics are no excuse for great gameplay. A game can look stunning like Crysis 3 but play like Superman 64. And the Luigi DLC is 10 million times better than microtransaction. I also ain't a fan of your sarcastic rudeness.

TreesenHauser

#249

TreesenHauser said:

@GN004Nadleeh The price of New Super Luigi U is reasonable--it's content that gives pretty much the entire game a visual and gameplay overhaul. I'd rather pay $19.99 for that than a $15 DLC that adds a few maps to [insert shooter of choice here].

And just because the hardware isn't as good, doesn't mean we don't have the right to enjoy and appreciate what the console has to offer. As for the ports... I won't lie, they're sorta tiresome. The only port I'll find myself going back to is Darksiders 2. Other than that and Arkham City Armored Edition most of them seem passable. But that's just me though.

Kirk

#250

Kirk said:

@Saturn
Your optimism is commendable but I''ve yet to be convinced that's going to happen.

The Wii didn't really woo third parties developers and that machine sold a lot of units.

I just don't think the Wii U is a platform many third parties, excluding indie devs I'd say, are excited about.

Ralizah

#251

Ralizah said:

Fanboy RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

This is silly. This shouldn't merit a firing. A talking to, perhaps, as it is bad PR, but getting canned? No.

arrmixer

#252

arrmixer said:

All I will say is just cause the guy is honestly saying what is on his mind doesn't mean it's accurate....

I got my popcorn ready.. EA's show is getting juicy!!

JuanitoShet

#253

JuanitoShet said:

No matter what you think of this guy for speaking his mind (jerk or not), he's shooing away potential customers and business partners for his company. Baaaaad business move sir, baaad. Hehehe. :B

WaLzgiStaff

#254

WaLzgi said:

@Ralizah The microsoft exec got fired over this. As I said earlier, people lose their jobs doing stupid crap like this

Ralizah

#255

Ralizah said:

@LzQuacker The microsoft guy was ridiculing people without access to the internet. This guy is just making some stupid comments about a certain console. Surely you see the difference.

Smug43

#257

Smug43 said:

Logically, the reason is EA tried to force Nintendo into bankrolling future games and or exclusive timed content etc.. you see MS doing this with some BIG pubs... Nintendo pushed back and EA once again offered something and Nintendo once again said, no thank you. What does EA do? Pull the plug.. EA probably tried to convince Nintendo the amount to "invest" to get their Frostbite 2 engine was going to be a huge investment and Nintendo would have to "pay for support" in order to get the time and money to get it working.. You can see the trickle down effect... EA started small by some developer claiming Wii U can't handle the FB 2 engine.. then it poured over into SR. level which obviously affected EA's bonus structure or general compensation. This is why the guy is so pissed off.. It has NOTHING to do with wanting to work on the Wii U platform.. it has everything to do with EA's bottom line which is becoming absolute garbage!!

DarkKirby

#258

DarkKirby said:

I don't understand why he deleted the tweets. Is it not obvious to some people EA has gone out of their way to criticize Nintendo and the Wii U at times without basis after their talks broke down with Nintendo? EA wants to say they think and everyone else should think Nintendo is garbage while remaining a "neutral third party" with no conflict of interests on their own part or ulterior motives?

Henmii

#260

Henmii said:

Sorry, but I really have to laugh about the whole matter! This very site stated that a BIG partnership between Nintendo and EA was in the cards!! I never believed it, and now many articles have shown the contrary!

The partnership was never a thing, and from the looks of it it won't be soon!!

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