We'll be seeing a new Super Smash Bros. character reveal later today, but that hasn't stopped director Masahiro Sakurai from lifting the lid on another very interesting piece of information: Ubisoft's Rayman will be featured in the game as a trophy.
Sakurai dropped the news on Miiverse:
In order to make Rayman’s trophy, we asked Ubisoft to share their references. We were expecting to receive 2D drawing references for Rayman, but to our surprise, they sent us data of a brand new 3D model that they rendered for this game!! And that was how this trophy was created. It takes a lot of work creating each model, so it’s wonderful that the creators contributed their own efforts!!
Rayman is the latest in a long line of third party "guest" appearances in the Smash Bros. series — could today's forthcoming character announcement also be Ubisoft-related? Share your thoughts, hopes and indeed fears by posting a comment below.
[source miiverse.nintendo.net]
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Shulk or Rayman, that's a hard decision...
I think it's just a trophy, like Wonder Red.
Troll attack from sakurai
Travis. Touchdown.
@CharleSketch Travis Touchdown! Oh that would be a great fighter addition.
Strawberry on the shortcake!
If any Ubi character was gonna be in I was betting it was Rayman, so this strikes me as quite weird. He wouldn't spoil his own surprise like that or would he?
Well this is certainly interesting. I wonder if it was revealed now to get people guessing and then have the reveal be something completely unexpected?
I would love for it to be Rayman
Even a Rabbid.
He put up the Rayman trophy so we would all expect him to announce someone different so he could announce Rayman in the trailer and still surprise everyone in the most masterful act of trolling any of us will ever see in our lives.
If this means a Rayman character is announced then I'm sold.
Yuk Raymans design is terrible, I have faith that they wouldn't waste a slot on him when they have better options.
Plus the leak hasn't been wrong yet so its likley Shulk, Chrom or Chours men. Hoping for a surprise character though myself.
If it's anything related to Ubisoft I'd wish for L-block or some other tetromino to be in and Tetris Ultimate to be coming to Wii U.
Cant see it being rayman. I think it will be captain falcon
Rayman being in would make me so freaking happy!
I've wanted him since SSBB!
I want Shulk darn it!
This is a good way to get people talking and speculating. Sakurai is such a troll.
Nintendo did publish Rayman in Japan for Ubisoft. Legends was practically Wii U exclusive there. So he is apart of Nintendo's personal history in a way.
I think this is just announcing third-party characters being in the game not just as playable, but as lesser roles as well like collectables and even assist trophies. Why would Sakurai ruin the surprise so close to the reveal?
While I do think Rayman would make a good moveset and be fun to play as if he were in the game, I don't think he is really eligible to be playable. Other than the plans for Legends to be a Wii U exclusive (which fell through), Rayman has always been a series released on just about everything possible. I would even argue that he would fit better in Playstation All Stars than Smash. Maybe he was planned to be playable before Legends was delayed, so that's why he has a trophy, and possibly an assist trophy.
But could be completely wrong, guess we'll find out the newcomer in just under 6 hours!
Rayman, Astro Boy (less as a gaming character, but still some awesome games like Omega Factor) and Bomberman, the three third-party legends that are still missing in the roster, in my opinion. The other ones I'd like to see are mostly a bit too "obscure" for modern gamers I suppose (Doshin the Giant, Odama bell bearers/flippers -or at least an Odama stage-, a Cubivore, Sin & Punishment main characters, Pius Augustus, Scooter from Ribbit King, a worm from Worms maybe,... to name just a few)
I've always considered Rayman one of the most suitable characters for Smash Bros.
This surprised me a lot man.
I love Nintendo man. its full of surprises.
Does this mean the character that will be revealed is a Rabbid?
Rayman was my childhood hero! He got me into gaming! So please, be playable!
Awesome
that's surprising. I thought ubisoft had contempt for NIntendo.
A worm from worms?.....
Yes, actually. This. If it's not this now I think I might cry!
Oh, never expected this. But then, it's not unrealistic!
Th@ B8 aint gr8, Sakurai, I r8 0/8, u were to l8 to get the good b8.
How about Ezio in Smash Bros?
Really hope for Shulk. This would make my excitement for the new Smash go through the roof. Really wouldn't care to see Rayman in it.
@Red_XIII I think you need a bit of a rest there from trying so hard there buddy.
Rayman won't be a fighter as much as I'd love him to, this deconfirms it completely. If Sakurai had to ask Ubisoft for a reference and only just now received a 3D model for a trophy then that automatically means he's not going to be a fighter.
...Damn. I wasn't expecting him to be in the game at all though so this is still awesome!
Yeah Rayman doesn't deserve to be anything more then a Trophy especially since he isn't an exclusive character. as I said before. Snake getting in was a stroke of luck that Kojima and Sakurai are good friends. I doubt Sakurai has that kind of friendship with Rayman's creator.
As for Megaman, Sonic and Pacman. they aren't exclusive, but they are iconic
Well that is awesome that Ubi sent them a fully build model for the game. Its true that it can take a while to make each trophy as I know what has to be done in creating character models.
The fact that Ubi did it themself shows they do care in a way.
Sakurai surely know how to tease and torture our minds XD
Great to hear Ubisoft went that far and even made the model, but such cooperation makes the speculations skyrocket to new horizons >.>;
@Red_XIII WOW TH4T SUR3 1S 4 LOT OF 31GHTS >:]
Hmm. I can't see why the heck they would put a Rayman trophy in SSB if he isn't at least an assist trophy. Given that every fighter is a trophy too in SSBB, I don't think this confirms or denies Rayman yet. But it makes it a lot more likely. I already guessed Rayman, I won't rehash my reasons from the post I made.
To be really honest, I hope it isn't Rayman for the simple reason that it makes the Gematsu leak less accurate. I want a 3rd Fire Emblem character dammit!
If Rayman is gonna get revealed today, I'll be so happy! Legends is still Wii U exclusive in Japan, soo..
If would be great if he was a fighter, but nevertheless great to Ubisoft still cares about wii u.
Nintendo: please send us 2D model of Rayman for trophy.
Ubisoft: here's a 3D model. Please make him playable! He needs more exposure! We won't scrw you again!
To the insane people who think Rayman is playable: WHHHY would Sakurai show off a trophy for a new character, before OFFICIALLY revealing that character? Do you know how stupid that sounds?
Also, some of these third party character requests I see make me lose all hope in humanity.
He's a trophy? Good.
Its fun to see how nintendo treats other publishers / games / mascots while in general, they tend to shun the system.
Even though hes just a trophy (as of yet), he is not a nintendo mascot and still gets mentioned and featured. This game is just a love letter to everyone out there
Can he be playable instead of Mega Man?
Well, at least Rayman is present in, at the very least, trophy form! That's pretty neat.
@SockoMario I admire your pleasant disposition!
Please let it be Rayman, why would another Ubi franchise take the playable spot? This is obviously what would be represented
Well, Rayman being a character, imo, is just... nothing to write him about for me. I would prefer these characters any time:
1) Professor Layton
2) Chrom
3) Wonder Red/Blue
Oh, and add Megaman.EXE as a costume change for Megaman and that would make SSB4 as perfect as SSB can get. Like, really, in my eyes, it would beat any past or future installments as they just CAN'T top that for me X3
Rayman is almost in Mario and Donkey Kong's level as a platformer genius for me.
If they choose a rabbit instead of Rayman...
Mickey mouse for smash.
@SockoMario Pretending that you wrote a polite and pleasant post, I have absolutely no idea. This doesn't make sense either way. Why would a Rayman trophy be in if he isn't playable? If he is playable, why would they make a big fuss about a live stream just to spoil it the day before? I wasn't sure before and I most certainly am not sure now.
Rayman will be a playable character... But not for a of few months after release and only once they have him ready for PlayStation allstars too!
A Rayman announcement on the 14th of July would be convenient... (as it is France's National Day and Rayman is French)
This is pretty crazy... Rayman being in Smash Bros. would be cool, IMO. He probably isn't anything more than a trophy, though. Maybe they replaced Sam Fisher for Snake, so that they can make room for Bomberman
@SmithJurd
Oh man, good one!!!
It is interesting that this might happen given the Rayman Legends debacle, but I think he'd be a nice addition to the roster.
...Hmm with Ubi pulling support like they are from a fan perspective I wish this was not happening. However, the game will be good either way. Not the end of the world.
Thought about this more. From the Japanese perspective (and thus Sakurai's) Rayman Legends is a WiiU exclusive. I can see that being more than enough to earn Rayman a trophy. I'm still pretty salty with Ubi for various reasons but this makes a lot more sense now.
OMGOMGOMGOMOMGOGOMOGM! YES!!!
After this i'm not sure if i want games from Ubisoft on WII U.
They see Sakurai trolling, then hate him.
Anyways, I'm not sure if I want Rayman to be in Smash Bros. The game is supposed to be a Nintendo's All-Star battle royale game.
It's going to be Shulk, Captain Falcon and a Ubisoft themed Assist Trophy.
@Azooooz You don't want Mega Man, Sonic and Pac-man, then?
Rayman as a fighter would be terrific, bring it on!
I love the Rayman games and would enjoy playing as him, but his trophy expression and hand gestures make it look as if he's thinking "Aw man, looks like I'm not playable in Smash. What gives?" Not that it confirms or deconfirms anything of course. No one can predict Sakurai
I don't know what to think. Never seen a third party character with a trophy unless someone from said series is in the game.
@Samurai_Goroh The first three were the exceptions. I'm not sure if another 3rd party character is needed.
A lot of people are gunning for Captain Falcon. While I agree he is probably on the roster I doubt he is the reason for the surprise unveiling. It's more likely to be someone obscure, someone who hasn't been in a Smash Bros Game before, maybe someone new entirely. The way the fans have responded to the new IP, I'd love to see a Splatoon Squiddie being a new fighter
Okay, Rayman is not coming, that's clear. Sakurai would never just ask Ubisoft to do their work if Rayman was the latest contender.
Shulk is reasonable enough, though I'd like ELMA a bit more (would be some awesome Xenoblade X advertisement), at least from Monolith.
But I'm still crossing my fingers for Matthew/Isaac from Golden Sun (alongside a new Golden Sun game), or possibly Shia from Hyrule Warriors, just to raise the boob rate yet again (just kidding, but she would be cool).
Also, it's a damn shame we won't be getting Wonder Red. His movement and fighting style would be perfect for Smash.
@PvtOttobot THIS THIS AND THIS!!
Ha! Would have been a playable character if Rayman Legends stayed as a WiiU exclusive.
@Tsurii897 I may be wrong here, but wasn't that the case with the E3 reveals too?
Plus, what if they are just fans of Smash Bros? Or what if they know Shulk's in the game, and just don't know when he'll be revealed?
I mean, sure it's looking likely, but there is a chance he isn't on his way today.
Seriously hope Rayman is not playable. He has no place in a Nintendo game. Snake and Mega Man do, Sonic and Pac-man are iconic but Rayman? An irritating goit who has been in a tiny handful of games on Nintendo machines and, most importantly, is completely unlikeable? No chance. Would rather have Bubsy the bobcat or Zool - and I'm glad they're both in videogame hell where they belong.
Rayman looks super wasted.
Ubisoft actually did something for Nintendo? Wow.
I love how Sakurai shows this a few hours before the reveal just to throw everyone off. There's already a ton of speculation now just because of this.
Anyway, as much as I love Rayman, I don't really know that I want him to be in the game. It would feel a little strange. I'm still holding out for Shulk being today's character.
Rayman? Really?
Nothing against him, but I'd rather see Shantae, or Klonoa, or Curly Brace...
If you have to have a ubisoft charcter make it travis touchdown or a rabbid like in tmnt smash up with the splinter cell costume lol
@CharleSketch
YES! Please! And No More Heroes 3 for Wii U!
I don't want Rayman in there... Then they'll delay Smash Bros for 8 months so they can simultaneously release it for all platforms.
so through months of character speculation, ive always thought "wonder why no one ever says theyd like to see rayman. i reckon thatd be cool." and then i saw this post and freaked the hell out.
apparently i want rayman in smash bros a lot more than i realized
@Marshi can't be. Or atleast very likely it isn't. Sakruai said it would be a newcomer.
I want it to be a Castlevania character, namely Simon Belmont with a Death assist trophy. Konami and Square Enix are the only two major Japanese developers who don't have a a rep in Smash Bros yet. If Snake did got cut, then the only logical option is to replace him with a Castlevania character.
Hopefully rayman trophy means there's room for PLOK! Can't have two limb flinging fighters after all.
This trophy is like the biggest plot twist in Smash Bros history.
I am from the future, and I have come to tell you that the character reveal was, er, will be… Commander Shepard with Captain Falcon's moveset.
"I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite- PUN-CCHH!!!"
Can't wait to see who the new character is. I thought there was a very strong chance that Rayman was the new challenger. This now has me scratching my head a bit. Is this a trick or is Rayman seriously just a trophy? I guess we'll know soon enough. I love surprises.....this is Christmas in July!
I will say that IMO Rayman would be great in Smash. I really think his last two games don't get enough credit. They really are on par with DKC:TF and New Super Mario Bros. U. I won't say they're better but they are right there. His move set would be interesting too.
Unless he's trolling us rather hard, it isn't going to be Rayman in the game.
He says they were given this 3D model when they asked for reference, but if he was playable, wouldn't they be using the character model that is playable for the trophy? Unless, he's trolling, and it's also the character model for a playable character, but that seems a bit much.
Though it does raise the question of why they needed the reference, unless just to make this trophy.
@Galenmereth they already have Pac-Man and Brawl had Snake it'll be hard to add someone less fitting than those two
It just doesn't make sense for a 3rd Party character to just be a trophy in Smash Bros. We got all these Nintendo characters, and then there's just that one 3rd Party character that is just a trophy amongst all the 1st & 2nd party characters? No man, there's gotta be something more to this...
After more thought, I really think he's the next character. They'll show some new footage of a battle and then the Rayman trophy will show up. It will animate as Rayman is disappointed he's only a trophy and then the "New Challenger Approaching" flashes and he's in the fight.
His eyes are a little... Hmm... Does this trophy blink?
The rayman as a new challenger reveal is gonna my year's biggest disappointment.
Yes, Rayman confirmed for SSB4!
@25th-Baam WHY? Rayman is awesome!
I wouldn't mind if Rayman is playable. Love Rayman games, Rayman 2 Great Escape for the Dreamcast is still one of my favorite games.
rayman confirmed?
I really hope not, Ubisoft has been almost as bad as EA in their treatment of the Wii U. I don't want to see them rewarded with an appearance in a flagship Wii U title.
@Darknyht Ubisoft is worse than EA. Most of the stuff EA did at least worked quite well.
id rather have more from sega or capcom than rayman
You know I like it. Ubisoft has done good with the U, Splinter Cell, 2 Assassins Creed games, ZombiU, Child of Light, some Just Dance (whether you like it or not it is something...) and don't forget they could've canceled Watch Dogs, they know they'll lose money...but it is still coming out. Sure the whole Rayman thing was a debacle and I'm not happy by it either, it is still one of the best games on the U. So there is my 2 cents on this trophy.
We were ALL wrong... BUT WE HAVE 4 FREAKING FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTERS!!!!! YES!!!! Wait? Is that... Kellam? Hmmm, I guess I didn't see him in the video.
While not among my most wanted, I'd be delighted if Rayman got in; he's quirky enough (Rabbids Plz!) to fit in.
Rayman and Rabbids combo as a fighter.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Ubi gets too much hate.
Rayman for Smash!
Nice! I am a big Rayman fan and its great to him slide in the game in some shape or form
Can someone please explain to me why is there a random Rayman trophy without anything related to Ubisoft playable or even present in the game ??
Awww, I really wanted him playable...
@shonenjump86 I'm at around 20% on my new Nintendo 64 and loving every minute of it!
Know what Ubisoft character I'd really like?
Sam Fisher.
And give him Michael Ironside voice bites.
@Giygas_95 Hey, aren't you the one that told me about the Mega Man games coming to the E-Shop? It's me, AceChaos! My new NNID is IDontCare4nymore.
You mean to tell me that Rayman gets a trophy mention but not Snake? C'mon! XD
I was almost expecting "Ezio Auditore Assassinates the competition".
@The_Atari_Kid That's me! Now if they'd just mention WHEN those games are coming to the eshop!
Gotta admit that trophy looks sweet! I have always felt that Rayman felt more at home on Nintendo systems so this feels like a good fit!
hm.. i think this is more a hint to what game UBIs been sitting on waiting for the WiiU to sell more than a possible SSB entry
Rayman should've been revealed not Robin. Who the heck is Robin?!
Good to see Nintendo showing Ubisoft the same amount of love that Ubi has shown them recently <cough><cough>
Is it just me or does the 3d model of Rayman look worse than the 2d model of Rayman in Origins and Legends?
@Emblem Why would Rayman be a waste?
@Imagamerboi I think it's because of his weird facial expression. The model looks the exact same as Origins/Legends.
Oh yes: Rayman as good as confirmed! Why else would they put it in? Unless there are trophies of all kinds of third-party games.
this trophy looks a little high o3o
Already shared my thoughts here.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/07/captain_falcon_lucina_and_robin_all_join_the_super_smash_bros_roster
Nintendo's way of apologising to Ubisoft for being such jerks?
They should delay releasing this trophy for about 8 months after the game comes out... Then make you pay more for it. The ubisoft way. Freakin hate ubisoft.
@unrandomsam Soo, you never heard of the recent PC title "Sim City" then ?
Or EAs mobile games like "Dungeon Keeper" ?
EA is doing its best to earn the title of "worst company" again, and for a good reason.
@ThreadShadow Nintendo being a jerk to Ubisoft ? Care to explain that one ? Looking back at the Legends fiasco, its more the other way around.
@Einherjar Just a joke. It certainly was, as you said, the other way around. Ubisoft keeps dissing (is that still a term?) Nintendo and Nintendo gives them a trophy in Smash. Wha? Guess Nintendo is taking the high road, but not every character deserves to be in smash. Smash isn't PS Allstars.
@ThreadShadow Well, a trophy is just that, a trophy. A little trinket you can look at in the game, read a bit about it and see from which game it comes.
Why its there after all Ubi did with Rayman Legends, well, i said it in another thread already: Nintendo rarely fights back.
They seem to be above these "war of the roses" shenanigans going on in the industry. Ubi did a fantastic job with rayman legends on the WiiU, exclusive or not and i guess thats Nintendos way to thank them.
Also, instead of making a "lousy" trophy and bury it in the game, this trophy was among the few that got shown to the public beforehand, so it gets well known.
In my opinion, its a nice gesture, while not giving them more credit than they deserve for their actions."Small gifts preserve the friendship"
Maybe someday, developers and publishers will realize again, that this industry should be about the games, and not about raw number crunching.
A well selling game will get you through its launch period, a good game made with passion will follow you through the ages. Thats why Rayman was gone for so long and Mario was always around.
@Einherjar True, I agree.
New Fighter Pls
@Emblem Faith is lost. Making yet another Fire Emblem clone. At least Rayman would be original.
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