Nintendo has broadcast its quickfire three minute Super Smash Bros. New Fighter Intro Video, during which it revealed three new challengers — one of which is a returning favourite and another with a male and female variation.
The headline announcement is likely to be Captain Falcon, the popular figure from the long-neglected F-Zero franchise. The overall theme of the video, however, was Fire Emblem: Awakening. Lucina will appear and opened the video, as will male and female variations of Robin; each character looks set to bring some interesting moves to the upcoming releases.
You can check out the reveal video again below. Are you excited by these new challengers?
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As excited as I am for chrom and robin, the lack of ganondorf or a zelda bad guy is very disturbing.
Chrom isn't playable..., Check the official site, you will only see 3 new characters. Those three are Robin, Capt. Falcon and Lucina.
It's also good to know my girlfriend is in the game too (Her name is also Robin )
Chrom is not confirmed. What are you talking about.
I AM SO HAPPYYY I always thought Robin would be the best one they could pick and I'm glad they didn't disappoint. Lucina is cool as well. I'm wondering if Chrom's only a Final Smash tho.
No words could describe how great this is.
For a minute i thought chrom was just going to be a costume for lucina. Glad he has his own slot though.
Edit: nevermind....
Bah, stream was blocked for me, and I simply don't get why...
I don't think Chrom is playable. He looked to be Robins final smash. Anyways a bit disappointed. Really wanted to see Shulk appear and cross blades with Lucina.
@Cevan Return to click bait from Nintendo Life. I swear the journalism on this site is downright horrible.
Fantastic reveals for me. I love FE so Lucina and Robin are very welcome. Also, Chrom is NOT a character, he's part of Robin's Final Smash.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That trailer made C.Falcon look like a b***h! But we'll get our revenge soon enough...
Wait wait wait. So are Chrom and Lucina two skins of the same character or what? That was so confusing..
What yall cant read? Chrom is in this
I'm seeing Chrom as a Final Smash not as a character.
YES THE GEMESU LEAK IS DEAD.
Chrom isn't a playable character as others have stated above.
Loved this trailer though. Smash Bros. is the greatest franchise ever!
Actually, I'm not so sure Chrom is in. He didn't get the splash image nor does he have a "Challenger Approaching" banner on the official Smash Bros. page. =
check the site. Chrom is not a playable character
Sakurai thank you. But way to reopen a wound
When is he getting his own game??
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAAYUKlc3tVw5Q
Uh guys, I think Chrom may be a alternate costume for Lucina or a assist trophy. So it could count either way.
You may want to update this article, since Chrom is the final smash of Robin. Also, there's two new challengers and a returning challenger. Not 5 new challengers.
Fricken christ all I said was that he was in the game.
Hell. To. The. Freakin'. YES!
Happy there's so much Fire Emblem. Hope to see Fire Emblem U one day.
@AdmiralThrawn If it's bad then why are you here wasting your time clicking on stuff on this site?
Nope playable, oh well
I doubt click-bait on this one, I mean I'm sure plenty of people are clicking regardless and accidentally inferring from Sakurai's ridiculous trolling that Chrom is playable is totally understandable, professional or not.
I still believe in the Gematsu leak minus Chrom though since Sakurai must've known about it for a long time and so changing Chrom -> Lucina during development and additionally deciding on Robin isn't that far-fetched. Only time will tell if Shulk and the Chorus-Men make it in.
Thank Samurai. 3 newcomers and the captain. Praise Sakurai.
@deathmetalkrunc yeah but the article says that he's a playable character
Chrom is not in. And Lucina has Marth's moveset.
Misleading article.
Sakurai that troll
My bad with Chrom, edited.
Really @Nabecoat? Darn, oh well.
from what i've seen in the reveal trailer is that chrom is part of a move/final smash from robin, and not a playable fighter.
Okay the chrom thing is fixed guys he is a final smash deal with it.
Not what I had hoped for... These were all quite unsurprising additions. I'd love to see Tingle get added to the mix, or some other ridiculous character.
But, having said that, I'll definitely try all of them! Captain Falcon's always a nice pick.
@Amateur That's what it looks like for now. The gameplay showing us Chrom was definitely a Final Smash and if you look closely you can see that he and Robin are trading blows against the opponent. Chrom is also not listed on the official SmashBros website.
@DakotaM47 Actually, 2 newcomers
@ThomasBW84 Dude, Did you not watch the whole video? Chrom is totally in! At the end of the video he said "I guess I'll get my chance another day..." and the it says in big font : "No, He's in today" And it cuts to a scene of him fighting!
Chill guys, they fixed it. Sakurai trolling like always.
http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/lucina/screen-7.jpg
This just looks epic
@JellySplat He is in Robin's Final Smash
I dunno if I should get Fire Emblem...I played the demo of Awakening but IDK.
@TheKingOfTown
Either way his presence exists. A lot of people on here arent comprehending what im saying. I.never specified if he was a playable character or not just that hes there. My bigger point is why the heck is no zelda bad guy in this game? Why take out ganondorf?
With the Rayman trophy and the Gematsu leak, it was a surprise to see these characters today. Well played, Sakurai.
I just wish I could care about any of them
Well, guess I'm gonna have to pre-order that 3DS version soon. That trailer was amazing!
@JellySplat I did see that bit, that's what got me! It looks like that's a final smash (for Lucina, probably) as he's not listed as a challenger on the official website.
Whatever. I'm sure Sakurai will explain the whole thing in a later POTD
@AdmiralThrawn
WTH dude? How dare you call me that!
I think we can safely say the Chorus Men are very unlikely now.
@drewb0203 Give it a shot! It's a fantastic game, even if you've never played a Fire Emblem (or any strategy) game before.
@deathmetalkrunc Don't give up yet. I'm sure we'll get our Ganondorf/Demise
@ThomasBW84
Okay then. Well I'm sure Masahiro Sakurai will explain everything in due time.
It's a shame. Chrom as a Final Smash for Robin? I think Robin could get a better Final Smash. So bad.
Wow, I'm way happier than them releasing a gematsu character.
Also, chrom is said by the announcer, which could very well mean he's either unlockable or playable, so let's not jump to conlusions just yet that he isn't in the game
I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!
"Robin" is supposedly the default name for the player's Avatar in Fire Emblem Awakening, but it was never explicitly used in the game's pre-rendered cut-scenes though. I wonder if there is an option to be able to customise the appearance and gender of the character the same way as in the original game.
@deathmetalkrunc Why do you think Ganondorf is gone? He will still be revealed I bet
i read this on the smash bros website yesterday
I don't care what character will be playable. I'm so glad that Super Smash Bros. is in near completion.
BTW I thought Robins Final smash was Thoron...? Maybe Chrom is a alt skin for Lucina?
I'm slightly disappointed. I think there was already enough characters from Fire Emblem in these two games. Captain Falcon's announcement was good, but I never questioned the return of him. I suppose I expected too much...
At first I thought Chrom was an alternate version of Lucina but upon viewing the video it looks like Chrom may be a part of Robin's final smash. But then again it looked like Chrom initiated the final smash. Need more info!!!!
I'm fairly disappointed that it wasn't Shulk, even after that tease from one of Xenoblade's writers. At least the Gematsu leak was just proven false, like I always said it was.
So happy Captain Falcon is back (one of my mains).
About time Chrom shows up!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I'm pretty sure he'll be playable!
The fact that Chrom initiated the smash, seems to indicate that he is his own character. But we will never know for sure until Sakurai's announcement in POTD. I wish peeps weren't so set on the fact that Chrom may not be playable, It'll all be explained soon. (probably tomorrow)
Chrom also appears on the newcomer artwork despite him supposedly not being playable
Two new characters? Awesome
It's also nice to see a electric character that isn't a pokémon Loved the video!
Robin is ok, but if we had to have more Fire Emblem characters, then more variety would be nice, such as a pegasus rider or something. Not just another swordsperson with blue hair. I can barely tell them all apart as it is.
I still hold out hope for Shulk. Not sure how many characters we will get in total.
They had better brought back Roy and not those bland new FE guys. That aside, too bad the fights ingame don't look near as good as in the FMVs.
@JellySplat It may looks like Chrom initiated the Final Smash, but if you look closely, Robin has a glow around him that only appears when you break a Smash Ball.
Now we just need more veterans. Ness, Jigglypuff, Wario,Meta Knight ,Game and Watch, Falco, Wolf, and Ganondorf are all announced or hidden characters before the game launches in Japan in September. Who knows maybe that Rayman trophy means he will later be announced as a playable character or will be hidden but I doubt it.
@DJSmith99 I think all of those guys will return. The only one I'm not sure about is Falco or Wolf. I think one of them will return, but not the other one, but I can't decide who.
I said this during the vid but Im saying it again - too many swords. The gsme is called SMASH, not slice. Maybe its b/c I grew up reading the Hulk - Hulk smash! - but I want smashing in my smash game. Doesnt fire emblem have some type of brawler tank like Benki in the Genji games? Benki knows how to Smash.
@JeffreyG @drewb0203 I may give Fire Emblem a playthrough as well. Will all the representation it's getting in Smash and the love it receives from the Nintendo community in general, I feel like it's an obligation. Lol
YESSSSSS
I'm loving these animated reveals! It sooo makes me want to see Nintendo or someone produce a Smash Bros Anime!
@Nabecoat
I just thought he didnt need a reveal. Hes been a main since melee. Like how link or mario is just a known thing
Also, Chrom is on the website in This picture : http://www.smashbros.com/us/images/character/reflet/illust-modal.jpg
If you look, he's in the background. Also, it is possible that he's a unlockable, kinda' like how Dark Pit was in Palutena's trailer. (Not saying that dark pit is confirmed or anything)
@rjejr How can there be too many swords!? That's like, the coolest part about the game!
I never played any Fire Emblem, so I'm not all that excited for Lucina and Robin. Still, it's cool. And it's also surprising that Fire Emblem has a whopping 4 characters in Smash, I hope that means the roster will be significantly bigger than Brawl's.
But, Captain Falcon! Yay. I hope he's as good as he was in Melee.
Haha Sakurai, gotta love him. Using Monolith to troll us... I think this debunks the "leak", though I still wouldn't mind Shulk. Even better, we finally have a Fire Emblem magic user, so I'm stoked! Overall, a great reveal!
Gosh darn it the characters I want just aren't going to be in.
I called two new characters though. I knew it would happen.
I'm really glad they put Robin in there because if it was just Lucina I would have been severely disappointed. Good job with Robin Nintendo, but I don't know why we need any more generic swordsmen...
@Kalmaro "You have death stared for the last time, Luigi, your justice is nigh."
Seeing Lucy and Robin in HD really makes me eager ror SMTxFE. I wanted Lord Chrom, but this is a great trade-off.
@JQuest I completely agree.
@rjejr There's no such thing as too much swords for me, tbh XD
No Inigo!? Oh well, I guess they'll do.
@LtAldoRaine
I highly recommend FE: Awakening. It was beyond fantastic.
@TheKingOfTown
Unless of course its gonna be Demise and theyre gonna surprise everyone.
@rjejr There are 6 characters that use swords now as a main weapon... The Fire emblem characters and the Links. 7 if you include the sword fighter Mii but of course, there are 3 variations of him. out of the 36 total characters. How is that to many?
Forever he will be my hero.
Man... Now I want top go play FE Awakening again...
Then NOBODY can tell me that Chrom isn't in the game MWAHAHA!! (Cuz' he's the main character)
@rjejr they should all also be brothers
I like these new additions. Glad to see my main man Falcon back although I never doubted he'd return. Lucina looks especially good. Might have to get Fire Emblem now!
@JellySplat Robin and Lucina have more bearing toward the story though. Chrom is really just there for the ride
This is hilarious
http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/reflet/screen-10.jpg
And this is confusing. Will Chrom be a costume swap?
http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/reflet/screen-6.jpg
Chrom is part of Robin's Final Smash
Not an FE fan, but Captain Falcon's return was more than enough for me!
@TheKingOfTown
What? Have you even played the game!?
And also, If any other Starfox reps get in, it'll be Falco.
Yassss ____ yassss!!
YES! Welcome back Captain Falcon!!! SHOW ME YA MOVES!
@JellySplat Yep. Did you pay attention to the story?
So awesome they are showing FEA some love. I can wait for the SMT X FE and the inevitable FE sequel.
What, 4 characters from Fire Emblem? Still waiting for Falco.
I own but have yet to play Fire Emblem on the 3DS but I have played other games in the series. I really enjoy them. However, I think there is now too many characters from the series in Smash. In Brawl, I always thought that Ike and Marth were always too similar. Anyways, I would rather have Wario, Ice Climbers, or someone else that is new to the series then two more FE character....but I would also be okay if Falco wasn't in the game as he's another Fox clone.
I didn't entirely expect Robin, but Lucina was just a matter of time - they couldn't possibly ignore the most successful Fire Emblem game.
As it seems though, Lucina is either still WIP, or she'll be a Marth clone - which would suck. Meanwhile, Chrom is absolutely Robin's Final Smash. During Chrom's attack, Robin is floating around the enemy in circles while shooting thunderbolts. Sorry to pop some bubbles, but no playable Chrom.
If Ganondorf returns to Smash, he better use his sword this time around. I'll wait for his announcement.
I think Lucina is an alt for Marth.
If you look at the main website she has a square just like the other veterans.
Glad it wasn't Rayman. Interested in Robin, as he appears to be vastly different than Marth.
I don't get the complaints because there are also four characters for Zelda and Pokemon Universes in the game plus six for Mario Universe. There will be five Zelda Universe characters once Ganondorf shows up. The more popular universes get more representation.
Darn, i missed the reveal trailer >.< Totally forgot the time playing worms....
But that was a great reveal Cpt Falcon is back, two (and a half) FE Characters and a cameo from chrom. Really nice and so far, no clone characters in sight ! Awesome
@Liquid_ice
How is 2 characters from FE too many characters (or enough characters) from the series? Fire Emblem's always been a series (imo) that deserved better representation in Smash Bros. It becomes more popular with each new release and always offers many great characters. Especially the type of characters that would easily fit into Smash.
I was always hoping for a Black Knight or Micaiah reveal but the Robin and Lucina make more sense since they represent Awakening.
@Einherjar Luncina appears to be a clone so far though....
@kingston589 "brothers" as in African-Americans?
I hope Chrom is playable, even if he's just a model swap. Now I just need Ridley to be revealed and I'm set
The avatar character in Awakening is named Robin? I never knew that. Mine had my name.
This Chrom poopoodoodoocacapoopledoople really is annoying.
@rjejr no haha i mean like biological brothers. We only have mario and luigi, see what i did there? Cause you said more smashers? Haha sorry bad joke
@Turbo857 4 characters from the series are already announced. I think that is easily too much, especially because there are some quite big series' that don't have more than one character in the newest Super Smash Brothers. For example, there could be more characters from Metroid or Pikmin. There are even some series' that aren't currently represented in the newest Smash at all (Golden Sun, WarioWare, Earthbound).
@Olmectron Yeah like maybe, "The book of Naga" or something. That would've been better...
No Chrom? >.< Dammit Sakurai. Ah well, I'll be using all of them, but Lucina will be the one I'll be using most.
@lerobadey
Yes it is... It'll probably all be resolved in a POTD though.
Glad Captain Falcon is in, more F-Zero Characters wouldn't hurt though imo!
@TheKingOfTown Well, i have no clue about the FE: Awakening lore, since i never played the game past a chapter or two, but that she has somewhat of a connection to marth should be obvious.
I dont think that she will end up as a pallet swap of Marth though. They introduced quite a lot of gender swap characters by now, if she would play exactly the same, she could have just been a swap of marth.
What she inevitably end up being is "just another sword fighter".
But like i said, i dont know much about her, so i have no idea how much "unique move set potential" she has.
I KNEW there at least had to be ONE fire emblem character. Now I just Have to get Fire Emblem Awakening.
I must be the only one sick to death of hearing about this game! Enough with the character announcements, give us a release date ya sods!
@ikki5 @Beta @JellySplat - I'm not opposed to swords per se, but todays additions seemed sword heavy, Captain Falcon is a returning character. and for a game like Smash Bros I would like a little more variety. Rayman would have added that variety. Pac Man, Megaman, Little Mac and the Wii Fit Trainer are all fun and different. I hated when they added Snake even though I enjoy those games as I didn't want guns either. If they were to now add Shulk that's another sword. I only played the demo but I was pretty sure FE:A had a fist fighting monk, all those games usually do.
Between Marth, Ike, Metaknight, Pitt (I know it's a bow split in half but it seems like a swords to me) and Link Brawl already seemed like it was getting sword heavy, and this is just adding to it. I'ld simply like more smashing in my smash. Needs a Goron. Darunia already has his own statue that looks like an amiibo:
http://www.vgmerchandise.net/gadget-legend_of_zelda_darunia_goron_leader_statue_sculpture.php
@JellySplat hope so. Sakurai must be having some fun.
rjejr is my hero! I agree 100% and I couldn't have said it better. Seems like a little too much swords. I don't hate the new additions, I even like the series, I just wish for more variety. Hopefully the Ice Climbers come back!
Everyone is simply ignoring that Rayman is a trophy in this game. Why would they add that if rayman wasnt also a character?
@Ichiban Uhm...we have a release date for the 3DS version...
The WiiU one is dependant on the aMiibo figures, since they will launch simultaniously. I bet that takes quite some time localisation wise.
@Link506 And THATS marketing 101 for you Fell right into their traps But in all seriousnes, its a great game. I havent played it much, but thats more for time reasons, since its a game that requires dedication.
@rbmoura85 So, youre saying that every character that is represented as a trophy should end up playable ? That would be a roster of a couple of hundret characters ! Well, it would at least calm all the people just going "needs more of that, needs more of this, more more more"
In addition to this fantastic news, Nintendo might reveal the Elite Status rewards tomorrow! (it was July 15th last year)
@rjejr
I guess I can understand. Although, Swords are technically still a minority amongst the fighters. I too, did not like Snake at all in brawl though.
If any more Chara's get released, I'd like to see Isaac from Golden Sun. He's a magic user, so that would definitely be nice.
Couldn't be happier about Lucina and Robin though!
@vamkar Well, Sakurai said that they are NEARING the bottom of the barrel when it comes to new character trailers. That doesnt mean that they are there yet And count me in on this one. I too would definitly love to see shulk in this one.
@Einherjar I think its weird to add a trophy for a non-nintendo character for no apparent reason
@vamkar
What the heck are you talking about? That wouldn't be a good fighter at all!
What would he do, throw hint coins at you?
@JellySplat
Would love to see Isaac. Can you imagine his grab? Random giant hand appears out of no where and tosses someone lol
@Amateur Why would Chrom be an alternate costume for Lucina? If anything, Lucina would be one for Marth. I wish Chrom was playable!
Everyone has already taken everything I wanted to say. i loved robin in the story, so i think ythis will be pretty cool to play as a magical swordsman.If Lucina has Marth's move set, or at least something similar to it, she is impersonating Marth in Fire emblem Awakening, so it would make sense.
Really excited about Lucina! If her move set is anywhere near as good as Marth's was, I might just main her.
@vamkar
I too would have loved to see Professor Layton.
@CoreyCannabis
"The avatar character in Awakening is named Robin? I never knew that. Mine had my name."
Yeah it took me a minute to figure that out as well. I totally forgot his/her name was Robin originally.
F**KING YES
So hyped about this my head hurts! Take that all you Shulk shippers! JK, Shulk would be cool too, but these four were at the top of my roster wishlist.
@Kamalisk Dude, your opinion is pretty far off the mark. Unless you meant Lucina and not Robin.
Robin is more of a magic user than a swordsman, does not have blue hair, and actually comes as a pretty nice surprise. That last part was just my personal opinion but regardless, if you can't tell Robin apart from Marth then you may need to see a doctor.
Wait, you guys saw Kellam right?
YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
CAPTAIN FALCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
FALCON PUNCH EVERYTHING!!!!!!
PS. THANKYOU for not spoiling Chrom for us! I got worried for a sec after he said "I'll suppose I'll have to wait"
So far we have
6 Mario characters (2 plumbers, 2 girls, 2 dino-thingys)
4 Zelda characters (2 Links, 2 Zeldas)
4 Fire Emblem (2 old, 2 from Awakening)
4 Pokemon
2 Kid Icarus
2 Kirby
2 Donkey Kong
8 Primary main characters from other Nintendo games
3 3rd party, 3 (or 1) Mii's
When you look at it like that, there is a balance, isn't there?
why too many fire emblem characters? ugh
I would have preferred more diversity.
Shantae! Fighting with long hair and sexy dancing.
Someone from a franchise not already represented would have been sweet.
Though he's no longer a Nintendo exclusive, Simon Belmont or the dudes from Contra, even. There's a LOT of RPG love on display in Smash now. Almost too much.
I didn't think there would be more FE characters. Honestly, when Marth was announced I thought he would be the only FE character in Smash 4.
YESH!! At least someone from FE Awakening!!!!! Bummer it's not Tharja, but Lucina is awesome as well!!
Captain America would be a nice add up. I know it's not a Nintendo character, but would be a nice character for this game. Hands Up soldier!
FALCOOOON PAAAAAAWWWWNNNCCHHHHH!!!!!!!!
I love this says it the fighters will bring something unique, when Lucina is just a blatant Marth clone.
Why does Lucina not have that newcomer mark on the smash page?
Why does no one notice my posts about Kellam?
Oh... yeah.
@PvtOttobot
Who?
I think Chrom will be an alt skin for Lucina. They share the same sword in the screenshots but Robin's final smash looks to use him. Oh well. Lucina should have been a Marth skin. I love Fire Emblem but with the character choices you wouldn't think the series had lances, spears, axes, hammers, bows, hatchets, rapiers, or javelins etc. Robin at least breaks the mold with tomes.
How about Rusty?
Robin is cool.
Lucina looks like a clone. Eww. Glad Chrom isn't playable, would've just been ANOTHER clone.
And yay for Cap'n Falcon!
Pretty cool! I'm surprised Ness hasn't been announced yet (I still think he will be). And like others are saying I hope none of these characters (and any for that matter) Will be clones.
Why does everybody want to kill off the Gematsu leak? I personally would love the idea of Shulk and one of the choir men (likely Marshall) from Rhythm Heaven in this game. And who's to say that leak is dead, anyway? chrom could've been changed to Lucina during development, seeing the positive reception of all the female characters. And seeing as that leak nailed the Wii Fit Trainer, a character that nobody saw coming, and was right about everything else, I think we should still give it a little bit of credence.
Ugh... I dunno, I'm not really impressed, but it's nice seeing Fire Emblem get more love. I need to know for sure what's going on with Chrom. Now. I guess it's too optimistic to hope that he could be his own character.
Captain falcon! I love that guy.
Disappointed Captain Falcon didn't get a more cool introduction. I mean, he just looked so awesome in the "Two Captains" cutscene from Brawl...
@piojito_O
Yes! The Gematsu Leak is fake! Now we don't know the other newcomers!
But.. At the end it shows Chrom as well. I guess he could be an alternate costume or a assist.. Maybe part of the final smash Lucina/Robin does..
Sakurai's steps for destroying the internet:
Step one: Search the internet for a leak that has a number of correctly guessed characters
Step two: Only reveal characters that were guessed in that leak
Step three: Ask Monolith to retweet the trailer announcement
Step four: Play trailer, grab some popcorn
Alright, it's taken a long time, but I am FINALLY hyped for this game.
People annoyed about the lack of Shulk and Gannondorf need to chill! They just announced three people and you are complaining that a specific person wasn't revealed....
The roster isn't complete yet : P They haven't even added Ness yet so chill!
Ranting, cheering, speculating, yelling, is what Smash character reveals are all about. Nintendo knows this. The hype is good for them. It's part of the community at this point. Plus it's fun to express your thoughts about the game, whether they be negative or positive.
I'm honestly shocked people think Lucina will get her own character slot. She looked to be exactly Marth from his normals and specials to the properties of the moves themselves. Most likely just a model swap (ie: male wii fit trainer) and Chrom only looks to be part of Robin's final smash. Only time will tell from events, reveals, and JP getting the game first.
I'm gonna make a guess and say we'll be getting a roster of around 50 this time.
@AzureFashionist Well if you check the website, she is indeed a newcomer.
Watch the insults, not cool — TBD
@Liquid_ice
Okay. I thought you were saying FE should be locked in at 2 characters. But regardless, considering all of Nintendo's franchises, Fire Emblem ranks among their top coolest characters (and designs) which can seamlessly translate to Smash. Smash is not about including an equal or even balanced number of characters across most of Nintendo's IP. It's about bringing together unique characters for some fighting mayhem.
At the very least, Ness will return representing Earthbound again. Wario will be in from Warioware. I don't think any other Warioware character deserves a playable slot (leave'em for assist trophies at best).
As far as Pikmin and Metroid characters, I don't think they have any other characters that are popular enough who deserves a playable slot. Everybody asks for Ridley but he's just too big to be a balanced character, imo. Dark Samus maybe but she'd be very similar to Samus in moveset and the Smash community already loves to shame clones (but Lucina is still a great addition). Louie, Alph, Charlie, and Brittney wouldn't bring anything meaningful to Smash as far as their movesets since they all use Pikmin the same way. I could only see them as alternative costumes for Olimar, which would be a nice touch but isn't really necessary. Golden Sun characters have potential to be interesting Smash fighters but they were only released for handhelds. So, I think they'd be low priority.
YAY. I've been enjoying Awakening a lot lately. I'm glad the Captain is back too! At least we know F-Zero isn't COMPLETELY dead.
And wow, four Fire Emblem characters!
You know, this just goes to show how great Captain Falcon would have been in Fire Emblem Awakening. Imagine Falcon Punching all the enemies on a map.
@noctowl Yeah, the way I phrased that was pretty sucky. It wouldn't surprise me if that was just one factor deciding to create Lucina instead of Marth at some point in development in addition to people's desire for more female characters and trying to create differentiable characters among other concerns.
Of course given that the characters were decided early on it's pretty implausible but I don't think he'd abide by early law on what characters are in if it was only to the game's detriment but I really don't know that. My only question is if it was Gematsu or someone at Nintendo who said the characters were decided early in development.
@dkxcalibur Marth and Ike have a completely moveset from one another. Also, Falco is not a Fox clone.
Well, this is interesting. Just finished Awakening the other day too.
Thank the Smash Gods it's Lucina and Robin and not Chrom.
Two problems with the latest character reveal:
On a more positive note, I'm happy with Captain Falcon's glorious comeback, while I'm genuinely interested trying out Robin's unique movesets.
@ikki5 My girlfriend is in it, too. Her name is Rosalina. XD
I'm very happy to see Captain Falcon back. Now we can see his glorious Falcon Punch in 3D and HD this time! The game releases in only 3 months, so I doubt we'll hear anything else until then.
I really wished it would have been Ganondorf, buit The Captain is fine too ^^
Smash Bros is now ruined, IMO.
so robin can choose to be male or female? what game is her from?
@GN004Nadleeh
Robin is the "Avatar", the main character in Fire Emblem Awakening. And as such, you can choose what gender to play as (you can rename him/her too like you can rename Link in Zelda games). Robin is the default name because its androgynous.
Anyone think Lucina could be a ''female'' Marth ... just like male/female wii fit trainer ... they both look exactly the same .
@piojito_O lol, he is a character from Fire Emblem Awakening who (despite his massive armour) is consistintly overlooked to the point of near invisibility.
Interesting! Captain Falcon has to return, but I'm unfamiliar with the other two. Nice though
@PvtOttobot
wut? o.0
Unless somebody kicked the bucket without me noticing [?]
Pages through FE:A roster
OH! RIIIIIGHT! >->
That um feller with the armour...and the hair ..yeah............
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he was one cool dude, one of my favorites.
How could I forget his name? "Kellam" was it? <.<
:Inner dialogue: ''Poor Ottobot, he sees imaginary peoples. :[ ''
Damn Fire Emblem had jump from two representatives to five representatives now, six if you still count Lyn as an assist trophy (and who I rather want as a playable character than Lucina). Though I like Robin, I wasn't too interested in Lucina, would rather them just announce Isaac (Golden Sun), Andy (Advance Wars), or Shulk (Xenoblade) instead. Also Captain Falcon is back, now really all we need are confirmation for these characters and we're done: Mr. Game and Watch, Wario, Meta Knight, Ness, and Ganondorf. There's just no more slots for any other character anymore after those. Also since Robin is in the game, Isaac can't be in anymore because his name is also Robin in Japan (the Japanese version of SSB4 will be confusing if both are in, damn Sakurai) so sad face no Golden Sun representative in this game.
Hopefully this one is good, I'm not heavily into Smash like a lot of people, plus it isn't like I'll get to play a lot.
Nice! I really like how they're adding in so many female characters this time around.
While having Chrom would've been nice, he would've been too similar to Marth and Lucina and so fits much better as a Final Smash or Assist Trophy (whichever one he is).
Still hoping to see Shulk or some other Xenoblade character make the cut...
@JCnator Lucina is probably a faster, less powerful version of Marth, kind of like Link vs. Young/Toon Link, and I doubt her moveset is as similar as the other clone characters (other than post-Melee Mario/Luigi).
Lame. Captain Falcon is a no brainer, Lucina was too obvious, and I don't even know who that Robin character is. Sakurai should've surprised us with less predictable characters like he did with Wii Fit trainer and Mega Man. Heck, Shaq would've been a more fun reveal but that's just my opinion.
You people expect way too much. Well you know what they say you cannot please everyone. The roster is fine to me.
@WaveBoy well that's the way it is. You are not always gonna get what you want,the earth doesn't revolve on just one person. Personally I think its fine all the characters that I expected are already there. Even if they aren't there are other characters I can use.
@DarrelltheJ heh. Yes I meant Lucina.I liked Robin, just not happy about Lucina.
Robin looks a lot different, and the tome mechanic could be interesting.
I hope there are enough alternate costumes for Robin, so I can choose one that looks like my avatar from Awakening. It would make sense, no?
Thank the Lord that Captain Falcon has finally been confirmed.
Now; a new F-Zero game please...
Thank god for the falcon
perhaps robin and chrom can alternate like samus in brawl
@Cain Train
There are no mid battle transformations anymore.
@MussakkuLaden Uhhh, nope. The new-ish FE: Awakening was the most popular FE game yet, why the hell would they bring back some Roy no one cares about when there are newer characters people actually like.
I'm over the moon with all the Fire Emblem love!!! Smash on the 64 was my first exposure to this fantastic series! Wish we could have some characters from the GBA game we got I wanna see Hector swinging his axe about! Or guy ooh and how about Dart too and Canas!!!
@vamkar OMG PROFESSOR LAYTON YES GIVE ME GIVE ME
I'm done. I'm officially so hyped for this game that my head is gonna explode. I thought at best Lucina would be a Marth skin but her own character?! YESSSSSSS! Also so happy about Fem!Robin! Is it Holiday yet? My WiiU craves this game!
On a less crazy note... So I think the roster is up to 35 now? The rest has to be veterans. If they are doing Amiibo for the whole roster I'm going to have to take out a loan....
I can,t help but feel sorry for Mewtwo.
It amazes me people are upset over the character reveals today. What would you have preferred, Chrom? He's just another sword user who would've had a slightly different moveset from Marth at best.
Robin is an incredibly unique fighter, and Captain Falcon was revealed as returning (which Sakurai really has no obligation to do), and Lucina, even if she turns out to be a faster and weaker clone of Marth (which I doubt she will be), that still makes her one of only two clones in Smash 4 (correct me if I'm wrong. I'm counting Toon Link. I don't count Falco or Luigi as clones since they have distinct movesets).
Point is, this is one of the most diverse rosters in Smash Bros history, and people are still hating on it. Heck, you have Mario, Mega Man, Pac Man, and Sonic all in the same game and people are still complaining.
Be excited to play the game and enjoy it for the awesome game it will be, or don't buy it. It's as simple as that. I for one am going to love this game and can't wait to pick up both versions.
That makes three characters from my newcomer wish list confirmed and one deconfirmed so far.
Lucina needed more intro to her move set, though. All we saw were normal attacks.
Lots of Fire emblem in this one! And lots of females too. Also: Falcon ppppuuuunchhh, finally!
@WaveBoy
Dude, one person should never speak for a "majority" just because you're not a fan of the series. Forget majority, EVERY Nintendo fan should at least be familiar with Fire Emblem as a series and as a Smash fan these character reveals are awesome. The more unique fighters we have the better.
@JellySplat Actually, Robin is.
Yeah i know, but man.. Jigglypuff!
@TheKingOfTown
Why yes. Yes I did pay attention to the story. In fact, I've "payed attention to the story" Over three times; Enough to say that Chrom, is definitely one of the three main characters. Lucina, Avatar, and Chrom.
That said, I think Chrom deserved better. He's at least as (if not more) important of a character than Robin and Lucina. IMO
@R-L-A-George
I'm afraid I'm not so sure what you're talking about.
Chrom is a non-confirmed playable character, it just takes reasoning if you visit the smash bros official site. Lucina is listed as UPDATE, that means, she is a skin to Marth, update applies to previous smash combatants or alternate skin or forms; therefore, I am PRETTY SURE the fire emblem smash line of combatants is: Marth (Lucina as skin), Ike, Chrom and Robin.
Also, watch the trailer and see Chrom's pose on nintendolife's other post, it is completely different.
'Bout time we got Captain Falcon confirmed. I was getting kinda worried for a bit, there.
We sure have a lot of Fire Emblem representation. Not a bad thing, per se, just a little unbalanced, I guess. Mario doesn't count.
@ALEC_EIFFEL
Robin is also listed as "UPDATE" despite being a new character. If you look at the character page on the mobile site, the Lucina banner shown displays "newcomer" in a manner similar to all the others. Lastly, when you click on Lucina from the desktop version, "newcomer" also becomes displayed. It's likely just because they've never had back to back newcomers with not enough veterans in between and they want it to be aesthetically pleasing. There's nothing to imply that she's a skin that I can see and some have noted differences in her attack animations.
I see no reason why Chrom would be playable when he has been confirmed to be part of Robin's Final Smash. It would be rather redundant. Logic dictates that if Chrom were playable, Lucina would not have gotten a page since there was ample opportunity to give him an introduction in the Fire Emblem-heavy trailer.
@ALEC_EIFFEL How could you think for a second that Chrom is playable? He's clearly Robin's final smash or an assist trophy.
Well I guess this puts down my hopes for Henry as a playable character. Joking aside I love the new characters. The sword centered move sets of Marth and Ike was what made them my favorite characters so Lucina looks right up my alley. Though her move set looks the same as Marths, Being a newcomer she'll have to be different in some way, so I'll be looking forward to seeing more on her. Robin looks very interesting. Unlike the other Fire Emblem characters he isn't really a sword based character (which it confuses me why people are complaining about him being one). I mean, he has a sword but he seems to barely use it. The main bulk of his attacks are projectile based attacks. I'll have to try out his move set before I see if I'll play as him out not. He's a cool edition either way.
Am I the only who shouted "PUNCH!!" at 0:48?
@Hy8ogen You and I, so that's two!
I enjoyed the reveal, and I never realized my character's default name was Robin in FE:A (guess I wasn't paying attention at that point!).
I don't mind FE series having a lot of characters, it seems like this could end up being a very crowded roster, something some may think of as "too much" and others just think of as fun. Put me down as thinking of it as fun!
Glad Falcon made the cut once more, now the only "essentials" missing are Ness and the Ice Climbers (Jigglypuff is the only one missing alongside Ness, but unlike him we have plenty Pokémon characters already).
That said, I'm only disappointed we didn't get Isaac, but there are still two months before the portable Smash gets released in Japan. As for Rayman, as long as we can say Sakurai had a lot of fun twisting the knife today (Rayman sort of being in the game, commenting on the lack of F-Zero games under Falcon's Miiverse post, and giving Chrom a Final Smash-only appearance), the only other disappointment is that (it's a whim of mine, of course) with Rayman not being playable we've lost the potential of an awesomely wacky trailer in the Rayman art style, complete with UbiArt Engine.
So how many more Fire Emblem 'red shirts' are going to wind up on a Smash roster? (I understand it's a popular series and lots of folks love it, I say red shirts because I suck at it and more often than not, the permadeath leaves my party rather sparse, lol!)
@Hy8ogen no, you are not! Was gutted when it didn't happen.
@rbmoura85 Well, the reason could just be appreciation for what Ubi has done (planned to do) with Rayman on the WiiU.
But youre right in that its certainly strange, since they stated that they wont go for more than two guests at the time.
If you want to lean out of the window, you could also say, that maybe rayman is "pending" and they are waiting for Ubis approval to fully feature him
OR it could be a friendly sideswipe. Rayman wasnt exclusive afterall, so rayman is featured, but not playable
@Topic I just visited our german Smash Bros page, and on the Frontpage, every character is listed as "Update" and yet, everyone is tagged as "Newcomer" on their respective page, even Lucina.
So, quite a bit of confusion there. If i get this right, some have her listed as an "Update" and some have her listed as a newcomer and no one is really sure if shes a skin of marth or not...
Also, for us germans, Robin is actually called "Daraen" which isnt even a real Name O.o
Im used to the fact, that our translation team likes to switch around names, but why did they change robin ? Its a prefectly gender neutral name even around here, weird.
EDIT: Another thing regarding Lucina: All newcomers to the series (not just this game, like Shiek and co) have bigger "tiles" on the frontpage, three times as big as other characters. Lucina on the other hand, just has a small one like the rest of the veterans.
@Gamecubii-64DD 2 newcomers??? OH MY GOSH! SMASH BROS. IS RUINED!
@AzureFashionist She IS her own character slot. Sakurai even said it himself.
still waiting on Ness :/
@JellySplat MU/FU/Robin is the main character in FEA.
Now all we really need is a new Fire Emblem game as well! =P
@SockoMario It was in MY OPINION. IT'S GETTING TOO NON NINTENDO-Y.
I'm fine with the new characters, the one thing you can't accuse Nintendo of is failing to give players a choice. As for getting "too non-nintendoey"... well they've already used most of their characters several times already. You either keep things fresh & add characters from further afield or moan about the "same old fighters".
I must also add that female Robin looks a bit like Maka Albarn from Soul Eater - a definite bonus.
P.S. The "update" against Robin at the end of the video might just be referring to the fact that they added the option onto the end of the video at the last moment... it certainly seems tacked on.
@R-L-A-George
Yes. Alongside Chrom.
@Gamecubii-64DD Yes. I agree. Having 2 Fire Emblem reps makes this game non Nintendo like. After all, Fire Emblem isn't a Nintendo franchise!
/sarcasm
@HopeNForever
Robin is the default name for FE: Awakening player's avatar. And those were the default appearance for both genders. Though I highly doubt we will be able to fully customize Robin in Smash though.
@AlexSora89
Looks like I missed posting here
Was so looking forward to a Golden Sun reveal!!! Sakurai when are you going to announce Isaac? Especially after you announced a Marth clone as a separate slot character!
By the way didn't they say Ice climbers would be tough to add or something?
@Lasermaster123 Sorry to say this but Isaac can't be in Super Smash Bros. 4 anymore. Main reason, because Robin is already in the game and in Japan Isaac's Japanese name is Robin so they can't have 2 Robins in the same game, that would confused the Japanese player. If there's any other Golden Sun representative that still had a chance to be in SSB4 it would either had to be one of these: Matthew, Felix, Garet, or Piers.
@retro_player_22
That is not a problem. Sorry to say this but you have done only half your research Isaac's Japanese name is definitely Robin but the Fire Emblem Awakening's Robin's Japanese name is Reflet. So even if they add Isaac from Golden Sun, this will be not be a issue.
On the other hand Garet or Piers are most unlikely to be added to the roster as they are not as important as Isaac, Matthew or Felix, these 3 being protagonists of a game each. Even Felix seems unlikely as he does not make an appearance in GS 3. Isaac and Matthew seem most likely, especially Isaac as he has the largest role combined in the three games and has been an assist trophy and can be made into a playable character.
I am still looking forward to Isaac's reveal
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