Amazon Promoting Rival Consoles On Nintendo Product Pages

Oh boy.....

Son of a-...

Read this on Kotaku earlier...it certainly is strange, but then again it could be for no other reason than the fact that Amazon doesn't carry the machines directly....they'd rather make a sale straight to you, of course. But that doesn't explain why they don't carry the hardware in the first place...

Its quite funny how regardless of the Wii's & 3DS success they r easily dismissed as the underdog that doesnt have a chance.

Im guessing business wise there's more to the story between amazon & nintendo than meets the eye…like discounted product inventory or corporate agreements

The vita one doesnt seem like a big deal, it's just telling you about the option tht amazon does sell, but the PS4 one is cheap, since they're not even selling them yet. It could be considered just to be taking sales from the Wii U

This whole Amazon vs. Nintendo thing has been stupid. Nintendo! Amazon is one if not THE biggest online store in the biz. I suggest you get on it's good side. Amazon! Nintendo is one of the biggest console companies in the biz. A LOT OF NINTENDO FANS (myself included) WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO BUY NINTENDO HARDWARE ON YOUR SITE! Get it together!

my guesstimate, based on the reputation of Amazon and Nintendo, is that A. wants a better wholesale price (= higher profit margin) than N. is willing to give.

Who guessed that would happen?.... :/ Nintendo cannot catch a break in any aspect of the industry lately it seems.

I was surprised when this happened. I bought my DS, Wii, and 3DS all pre-ordered from Amazon. I was shocked when I couldn't do the same for the Wii U.

Well if Amazon doesn't directly carry their consoles I could see why they don't advertise them.
But the "PS4 was just announced" makes it seem like they're just out against Nintendo, or paid by Sony.

Holy cow... I swear to God, Sony is sincerely pulling some heavy strings in the background to eff Nintendo out!!! And I thought that time was over!!!

They're paid by Sony, that's for sure. This is single-handedly the reason why I cannot put my money on a PlayStation product.

One word- favoritism.

That PS3 Bundle price is pretty good tbh.

It does seem very strange for Amazon to advertise the competition on the Nintendo products page while the opposite isn't happening. What in sam hills is going on behind the store??

Over-reaction... again! Amazon are a retailer. They want you to buy stuff from them. You get recommendations on every item's page for related products, which are generated by software. There would be nothing wrong with this even if they were being supplied hardware by Nintendo, the fact that they're not getting Nintendo consoles makes it even more logical.

Everything is a conspiracy with Nintendo fans.

@Peach64 Could not have said it better myself. NL should stop posting this crap.

Amazon, have you forgotten what your #1 best selling book was? Remember, the one that beat 50 Shades of Lame?

@DePapier
THIS.

i smell some sony-involvment

@DePapier
Same here, I have never, nor will I ever buy any other companies console as long as Nintendo is around.

Who cares?

at least it's quasi-relevant with regard to the thing you're actually looking for in this case... idk the number of times i've gone looking for a book or something and wind up with a car seat, some random action figure, or other totally unrelated crap recommended to me by Amazon, lol.

3ds is doing way way way better than vita, joke's on them!

This is almost dirty

Kotaku, the blog that is the source of this "information", has a business model of getting noticed by trolling Nintendo.

I think this website (NL) is above that level.

And the 'everybody is against Nintendo' nonsense continues.

I actually haven't heard how Vita is doing. I hope it crashes and burns. Nintendo is the King of portable consoles! Apple can go screw itself with its inconvience!

@Raylax Word.

I find it amusing that people are PO'd at this. Yes, Amazon should bow and humbly ask pardon for trying to sell products.

That they hardly ever have Nintendo consoles in stock is a bit interesting though. Maybe it has something to do with the 3DS screen scratching debacle awhile back?

Ok.

Huh, wierd. Then again, Nintendo Life has also had ads for Nintendo's competition.

They've been doing this for a long time. They're just trying to sell more products like they're supposed to, and it's common practice to recommend products similar to the products the customer is browsing. I highly doubt Sony is pulling any strings, that's nonsense. I heard Amazon decided to stop supporting Nintendo as much because Nintendo wouldn't let them lower the price of the 3DS when it wasn't selling well to begin with. That's probably why Sony is being advertised on a Nintendo page but not the other way around. Now that the 3DS is doing well though, it seems to be Amazon's loss. Also, the headline is stating a bit too much. Saying they're promoting a rival console would be like, "Don't buy this, buy this other thing instead!" All the page says is that you might also be interested in this product right here. This is hardly newsworthy.

Perhaps there's some sort of Sony green persuading Amazon? Or it most likely something else. I guess the fact that they would make more money from the other systems. It's stupid, still.

I posted this about a week ago in one of the many "Wii U needs a price cut, no WiiU needs more games" blog posts. It makes sense that Amazon would offer the PS4 on the WiiU page if they don't sell the WiiU but they are planning on carrying the PS4. Sucks for Nintendo though as they could actually be losing sales to people who buy from Amazon - especially Prime members - but don't like buying from 3rd parties who tend to jack up prices and/or get you with high shipping costs.

My mistake - 2 weeks ago:

"For everybody who keeps saying "Wii U will be fine once Mario 3D and Zelda come out" this is the big picture you all seem to be missing. The Wii U won't be fine in some theoretical future if retailers stop carrying it before then. Amazon US doesn't carry it. When you go to the Wii U page you are greeted by an PS4 ad. How much display space will retailers devote to a poorly selling Wii U once the PS4 and KinectBox come out? What publishers will put out games on a system that retailers don't carry? The clock is ticking. Nintendo needs to spend some money on advertising and start promoting some upcoming games. I haven't heard a peep from Wonderful 101 or Bayonetta 2 in months."

Can one of the Nintendo fanboys here crying conspiracy provide solid proof that Sony is pulling any strings? If not, just stop it. Amazon is recommending video game products to people browsing video games. Stop the damn presses they're against Nintendo!

I do, however, wish that Amazon would directly sell Nintendo consoles again. It didn't help any when I was trying to get a 3DS XL and a Wii U Deluxe. I mean there's really no reason they should be at odds with one another. Neither company is helping itself by not cooperating with the other. And why hold a grudge over something that happened back in '11? Nintendo has dropped the price since then so why are the wars still going on between these companies?

Vita is a big fail. Why'd they advertise it in 3DS's buying page?

the sad wannabe rivals always get advertised right into my face when I look for nintendo stuff on amazon. but i thought it was the other way round as well?!

They're two companies that I really love, so it's a bit painful to see them at odds.

Vi...ta? Is that like a 3DS?

@MickeyTheGreat #6
Right? They could so much profit if they would just make up.

@Mk_II I think that's a spot on observation. Two very stubborn companies.

@DarkKirby I never heard of it. Must another thing made by Amazon. Like the Kindle fire.

I heard the US Amazon site stopped selling the 3DS because they got too many complaints/returns regarding hinges on them. In fact, I believe this reason was published on the product page as well. The Canadian site sells everything though, so it appears to just be a US issue.

@Gamer83 Thats why I said "seems", it could also seem like this points to aliens taking over the world.
I don't imagine you can provide proof that Sony isn't any pulling strings.

"Customers viewing this page may be interested in these sponsored links." Sponsored links... Sponsored by who??

Not really a big deal... as I see it, Amazon is just suggesting you check out another product. News flash: there are people who like Nintendo and Sony consoles. Weird, right? At least they're not like, "OMFG DON'T BUY THAT CRAPTENDO STUFF, BUY AWESOME PS4 HARDCORE GRAPHIX!!!!!"

I love a good conspiracy theory, so I'm speculating that Sony and Microsoft are resorting to underhand tactics to take down Nintendo. Games no longer exclusive, many games never coming to WiiU, and now extremely competitive advertising. Smells a bit fishy and on the off chance it was true, says Nintendo's opposition are scared!

No matter how anyone here tries to put a "spin" on it, it doesn't disguise the fact that it's rather odd.

Rather than all of this conspiracy theory, it seems to me that Amazon would make a much larger profit from selling both Sony's and Nintendo's consoles than it would accepting some bribe and selling only Sony's.

@Urbanhispanic

Is it 'rather odd' when I'm looking at a Samsung TV on Amazon and they suggest a Sharp or LG? Is it 'rather odd' when I'm looking at a Sony movie in bluray and it suggests a Paramount bluray?

God, some of you are so paranoid it's sad...

@AbeVigoda Exactly. This is nothing new. Not newsworthy.

Some Sony/MS fanboy sitting on the marketing team, no doubt.

Nintendo should fight back, and take Amazon video off the Wii U!

When I picked up my Wii U on launch day it was bitterly cold and rainy. Clearly that was a conspiracy to ruin Nintendo orchestrated by the clouds. I'm guessing those sneaky barstewards must have been paid off by Sony and Microsoft.

Sony pays well, I guess.

Probably because their PSVita stalk isn't selling. Not sure why they're doing this for PS4 though tbh. Maybe Amazon has a personal beef with Nintendo or a deal with Sony? Either way, this is absolutely disgusting.

Wow.....who really cares? lol

When you're looking up something to buy, you'll see advertisements for something similar. That's just now it is. Nothing surprising here.

Hehe that's funny.

I have also noticed that Amazon gives suggestions based on your interests.

Anyways, I learned that you can't rely on amazon to get your nintendo consoles a long time ago.

I can kind of understand Amazon's position and tactic here because they believe they got burned on the DS scratching debacle.

Well, I personally would choose 3DS over Vita anyways, so they can put whatever ads they want. That doesn't change the sale at all, unless someone buys a Vita by accident thinking it will have games, just to be disappointed and sell it for a 3DS(I've seen it).
It also helps if the products are the same price and have the exact same features, so Vita can show up where ever it wants really. If you can read, then this doesn't make a difference.

Amazon always gives alternative like for like products.. so if your veiwing WiiU console then an alternative will be shown. Looking at a Sony TV? again an alternative will be shown. Looking at.. you get the point.

Its no conspiracy, unless while viewing a ps3 or 360 consoles there no links to WiiU consoles.
However as Amazon tailor ads/links to your shopping/veiwing habits if for the past 5 years you've been buying Xbox/Ps3 games and accessories from amazon you will get Xbox/Ps3 links/ads.

I would have wrote it off, cept psvita does not link to 3ds

So it's news that Nintendo is one of the largest video game companies in the world but doesn't take it's North American marketing strategy seriously and then has to quickly drop prices due to poor sales even with it's easy taget demographic in kids and it's already rabid fan-base? Nothing new. Nothing to do with Amazon.

Amazon sells ad space to the highest bidder and clothe bidder chooses when and where that space is on their site... mystery solved.

Maybe Vitas aren't selling, so they have to take up Nintendo's space just soley on not selling stock.
Best Buy's ad is one huge market stealer for everything in it, I guess. Only the good electronics get sold you know, but some are better than others, obviously.
If Vita was truly better, it wouldn't be taking up a Nintendo page that obnoxiously.

Who cares? It's not a big deal.

@HawkeyeWii Why would you want it to crash and burn? Competition is only a good thing for customers.

@Peach64 THANK YOU!!! Every time somebody says something that isn't in favor of Nintendo, people go off and start hating on Sony, or Cliff, Xbox (2013), or whoever. Sheesh guys chill!

What a joke. Is this the biggest story today? Let's put 2 and 2 together:
1. Amazon is SOLD OUT of Nintendo products. That bodes well for the 3DS and WiiU.
2. Amazon has to have 3rd party sellers fill that void.
3. Amazon makes less money off 3rd party sells.
4. Amazon would rather you buy stuff directly from them, hence the push for other consoles.

Case closed.

I don't care. I love my Vita (oh wait it's collecting duts) just like my Wii U (which was collecting dust for three months but making over hours now)and my 3DS which also collected dust for months after the release.

@CaptainSquid

Is it weird that someone actually said THAT EXACT same quote to me once?

I went on Amazon the day the release details were announced for the Wii U to try to pre-order one. I didn't find the system at all. I chatted with an Amazon Associate about the issue. He knew nothing about it. I had a long conversation with Amazon through e-mail (about four or five e-mails) about this issue. Nobody knew anything about this issue. They wasted hours of my time without ever giving me a strait answer. I had to find out through a Google search that not only were Amazon not going to be taking pre-orders for Wii U, but that they hadn't been selling Nintendo systems directly at all for at least a few months. I have a friend who works at Amazon, so I asked him about it. He asked everybody he works with about it. They all knew nothing. Kinda frustrating.

Amazon isn't "sold out" of Nintendo products. They just simply don't sell them anymore, and haven't for quite some time now. Nobody seems to know why.

I'd find the pushing products part believable if they were consistent. However, the PS4 posting shows up only on the PS3 and Wii U product pages. The Xbox360 has no such pages (instead it has a holiday bundle showing). I can almost bet that will be shortly replaced by a posting for Microsoft's new console.

That already makes it seem like it's no coincidence. The Vita product pages only verify this, as unlike the 3DS pages that ask you to consider a Vita, the Vita pages have no such suggestion for looking at a 3DS.

Who's going to buy a WiiU for $359 on amazon when they can get it that day at a retail store for $349 ... plus eBay you can get them almost $50 cheaper in auctions for brand new consoles. I don't believe there's some conspiracy going on, but kind of hard to ignore the fact PS4, not even for sale yet, is being plastered in your face on the WiiU sell page. You don't advertise a system not coming out for months, on a page that's 'out of stock' ... how does that generate a sale!?!?!?

If all Nintendo hardware has an ad for Sony hardware, rather than some being for Microsoft, then it kind of looks like Sony and Amazon have some sort of deal in place. Maybe it's also the reason Amazon doesn't sell Nintendo hardware first-hand, if Sony is giving them some sort of preferred rate on hardware in exchange for Amazon not selling Nintendo hardware.

This is odd because Amazon always suggests nintendo products if you dont go looking at sony products, in what they tailor to their viewer .

I really would like to have a Vita, but sheesh, Sony! First the system, then a super overpriced memory card, screen protector, case (would have to have those last two), and games which is likely the most expensive part of owning the system. But I only know of about three games I'd definitely get for it which is not enough to warrant spending all that money. It's a shame because it's a beautiful handheld...Maybe those are some good reasons why the Vita hasn't done so well because those are the things that drove me away from it.

@iphys I dunno, I just can't see how Amazon would profit more from that than if they sold both company's systems...

I'm not sure what's questionable about it. They're a company that's trying to make money — they have no brand loyalty like a Nintendo or Xbox fan would have.

And when they don't regularly carry Nintendo consoles in stock, why would they NOT tell you about the ones they do have? It only seems like common sense to me.

Hahaha, implying the Vita rivals the 3DS.

@Rafie
I've hever heard anyone talk down to Xbox. I like Nintendo and Microsoft. Sony is usually the only one talking smack about either one.
Xbox actually rarely gets brought up in these discussions, because they aren't nonsense(IMO) like Sony.

@Nestalgic Odds are that they "sold out" of Nintendo stock because they stopped buying more. As @MK_II said, Nintendo is likely wishing to charge Amazon more than they are willing to pay for their hardware.

I guess they'll learn the hard way then. Vita actually has gimmick features going for it if you haven't noticed. SD cards being compatible is better than PS Vita stick. You can literally go find an SD card laying around, it will work, and it's inexpensive. 3D is a better upgrade than OLED. 3G is not free. The back touch panel is pretty useless, and those things are still just as duarble as PSP.
The PS Vitas are always frozen or covered by a case every time I see one at a demo kiosk.
Sony, why do you make awesome electronics besides game consoles? I think Sony got lost at the definition of AI to begin with... None of their devices before PS had any sort of computer in them, I think.

The recommendations make sense, but no 360 advertising & not carrying the 3DS & Wii U are too far. I could see product recommendations, but this much makes me suspicious. Does Sony pay for this much advertising or something? Whenever I see 3DS game trailers on YouTube, Sony always markets to me. If they are, they're sure tenacious. That or Nintendo got on Amazon's bad side somehow.

Wow so you guys are bashing the Vita, because a company decided to advertise the product on a Amazon page for Nintendo products.

Amazon sells GAMING Products and Hardware etc etc. Vita is a GAMING Handheld why wouldn't it be recommended ? Hell it recommends 3DS games and XL to me when I buy Vita stuff and vice-versa.

Not everyone is a fanboy. A lot of people buy from all three companies (including me).

Amazon and Nintendo have had words with each other before. They aren't exactly buddies.

@TechnoEA
Are you replying to me? And if you are, just to clarify, I wasn't bashing them. They have some good games, like Infamous that make a PS3 tempting to me, though I'm yet to get one. Try & be more clear.
Edit: Though it does seem like you're replying to the other guy. By the way, if that sounded like I was annoyed I wasn't.

@VincentV No I was replying to those who were doing the bashing.

@TechnoEA Ah, the reply button's back. Nice. It was gone for a while. On the contrary, I can actually agree on some points they had. Sony's Vita memory cards are overpriced, & it has less games than the 3DS does right now. Hopefully Sony can fix the latter of those issues at least. That's why the Vita's so far behind.

@TechnoEA
I was bashing Vita pretty bad and I have a PS3 with lots of games. They just don't do stuff right in the first place, then do stiff like this.
I for one, was disappointed by Sony long before this stunt.

hahaha, @The_Fox wins the thread.

@DePapier There is no proof that Sony or Microsoft have done anything to cause this. i know this is a Nintendo fansite, but why is there always a conspiracy theory that Sony is somehow sabotaging Nintendo and playing dirty? Where is the proof that they have every done that? Name me one time where there is clear and decisive proof that Sony was caught screwing Nintendo over in order to gain their market share with the PS1 and PS2. As far as I remember, Sony taking the #1 spot from Nintendo and taking third-party titles that were once exclusive to Nintendo platforms was due to Nintendo and Sega's mistakes in the marketplace with the N64 and Saturn.

And Nintendo has not always been a clean company themselves. They were very well-known during the NES era for bullying third-party developers, retail stores, and using unfair market advantages to keep Sega and Atari at bay.

As for the Amazon and Nintendo issue, I'm not sure what is going on. There are rumors that Amazon had issues with people who got scratches on their 3DS and wanted Nintendo to do something about it, but that's just a rumor. All that's clear is that the relationship between Nintendo and Amazon soured at somepoint.

But honestly, I don't think Sony or Microsoft have anything to do with it. Think about this, if Sony was paying an ungodly amount of money to Amazon, why aren't their systems promoted on Xbox 360 pages?

Anyone writing this off with sarcastic comments like "omg Amazon sold out of Nintendo systems" and "oh no, advertising similar products on a product page!" clearly isn't paying attention.

Shortly after 3DS came out, Amazon put the product "under review" and stopped selling 3DS systems. Since then they have not carried ANY Nintendo systems and ONLY on the Nintendo systems pages does it say "Try Vita instead" or "Try PS3/4 or Xbox instead."

There's clearly something going on behind the scenes that has Amazon actively trying to steer shoppers away from Nintendo systems and to the others, while they are not stocking the Nintendo hardware. Amazon.com has not ever stocked the 3DS XL or Wii U themselves.

There's obviously something more to this than low stock or "normal retail behavior."

Vita sucks.

Case closed!

I don't see this when I view it on the mobile site; just other Nintendo products.

Hahahahahaa this is prety funny, look how sht Sony is. It's so bad that they have to resort to these kind of low life tactics to even get anything sold.

Soooo pathetic. Lol@sonynoobstation

I would be totally ok with this if the opposite was also happening. Xbox n Playstation product pages should also have competitors' ads. Then it would be totally understandable. But since it's only one-sided, it does seem like Amazon gets money from Playstation.

..Sony*

@SneakyStyle I've heard it's Amazon being mad at Nintendo.

@Tasuki That makes sense. Something like that would make Amazon want to sabotage Nintendo.

It seems Amazon, at least in the states, is not selling Nintendo Hardware, such as Wii U and 3ds/xl systems directly but, instead is acting as a mediator. As soon I discovered this I started to wonder, well, perhaps, that amazon, in some inexplicable way, makes more dough selling products directly from its headquarters. Though I was not able to solidify that theory with facts, i did find out that, that theory wether true or false was really irrelevant, since amazon does not directly sell Sony's gaming systems either.

To tell you the truth though, the ps vita is barely even showing any vital signs, so if this little stunt amazon is pulling helps improve vita sale, great. Competition in the handheld gaming market serves to benefit the gamer. As competition forms an environment, in which , swaying the consumer, by creating the up most polished piece of hardware able to facilitate very satisfying game experience, is a gaming company's primary goal.

Bottom line America, if amazon wants to display advertisements in a fashion that makes the consumer aware of all the option available and you don't like it, go to wal-mart and try shopping there with complete product segregation.

Someone who now if miiverse or youtube comming to 3ds??

I see nothing wrong with it, its business, they're promoting items they are selling by themselves.

Also they are the biggest online retailer in the world, they have the right to demand Nintendo addressing the issue of scratched screens in 3DS, Amazon supposedly got a ton of returns

why do amazon sabotage nintendo? it does not make any sense to me

I once talked to an Amazon user, and they told me that one of the UK managers had a grudge against Nintendo, and hated the Wii. So this doesn't surprise me atall, they are actively promoting the rival consoles because of a personal grudge. They should be promoting all consoles equally to maximize sales, and not let personal tastes get in the way. This practise is quite deplorable.

OK Amazon, its one thing to pay nothing in corporation tax and have terrible working conditions for your staff.

But to advertise Sony on a Nintendo product page. OUTRAGE!

@SCAR392 You're crazy if you don't think Microsoft talks down on Sony. I understand you don't like Sony, but dude c'mon. Others do and Sony isn't the conspiracy theorist here working to get exclusives or "timed exclusives" away from everyone. I have a 360 as well...I'm just saying!

@PS4WiiU Also they are the biggest online retailer in the world, they have the right to demand Nintendo addressing the issue of scratched screens in 3DS
No just no since when does that give you the right to demand something from a company ?
If it was worldwide ok but only Amazon us had the problem.
Who says they didn't drop the pallet with 3ds's and acting a nosebleed.

@ledreppe Isn't this the same thing EA is doing ?

I see watchdogs for ps4 priced at $99.99 i hope thats not true

http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-playstation-4/dp/B00BI83EVU/ref=pd_sim_vg_3

@OL_G I think that's just Amazon trying to cover the Maximum cost a PS4 game COULD be. If the games are $100, then Sony has lost the next console race.

I see no issue with this. Amazon hasn't carried Nintendo products directly for awhile. No one seems to know why. Could be a Nintendo thing, could be an Amazon thing. We don't know. Either way, Amazon is a corporation like any other one out there trying to make money.

As far as handhelds go, I personally have a 3DS, DS, Vita, and PSP. All are excellent systems with high quality games. I don't get the bashing of any of them.

@MANIAC911 That's not the point...

Its the companies paying amazon...

@Rafie
How do they talk down to Sony? Give me one example, please. Seriously.

@SCAR392 So Major Nelson never criticized Sony? I would post links but you yourself can type that in and see. I seriously can't believe that you think that MICROSOFT of all people are just innocent! Truth is Sony and Microsoft are their biggest rival and/or competition. They have both slandered each other in sake of console rivalry.

@Rafie
Well, I guess that makes sense. I still think Sony copies both of them. They talk trash about EVERYTHING either Nintendo or Microsoft do, then do it themselves. Sony should just stick to bluray players, TVs, sound systems, etc. IMO.

@SCAR392 LOL Man you hate Sony. I happen to love Sony. Hell...I love all of them to be honest. So I guess it's all preference at the end of the day. The only thing that I think Sony REALLY took from Microsoft was the "achievement/trophy" thing. That's about it. Everything else really derived from previous console innovations from Nintendo and others.

@Rafie
I liked Sony for a bit, but they don't stay true to their motives. Like you said, everything of theirs derives from other companies ideas. I actually chose PS3 over 360, soley because of bluray. I don't hate Sony, just PS. I have a surround sound receiver from Sony that was the best one I could get that costs more than a PS3.

@SCAR392 LOL I gotcha! Well everyone can't be pleased. Sorry you feel that way about PS. I just believe everyone has taken something from someone in some way, shape, or form. I actually don't like how Microsoft does business with developers by monopolizing, but I still like MS though. It's cool! Thanks for the replies, Scar!

I know it will sound fanboy if you don't follow this kind of stuff, but I'd think it actually IS business personal, not just personal. I'm sure somewhere in time NOA rubbed Amazon the wrong way and this is their idea of how to handle them going forward. Sure it's immature, it's wrong, and it's deceitful, but it is their business choice and that is their right to be wrong in being non-even handed like they are with the other big fish.

Well, there's also the possibility that Amazon simply isn't able to get the consoles they require to keep up demand. Amazon's original business model has always been to buy cheaply in bulk and pass the savings to the customer. If they aren't able to do that and thereby are unable to keep up stock it would only be logic of them to try flogging us a similar product. Either that or maybe they make more money selling Sony products.

I can't wait to watch the PS4 tank so hard... >$600 + $250 for the Vita...lol

Sony is most likely going to sell the PS4 at a loss so they can actually sell the damn things. They'll probably be able to make up for it with game sales like the Wii U, but not as fast; not "one game will help us make profit."

Boo hoo! Its not against the law. ITS NOT A BIG DEAL