@moroboshi ... Like I said, I'll just wait and let Nintendo's first-party games prove you wrong, and I'll wait for you around on Smash U.
Then we'll see whose bubble got burst and who's been foolish and naive.

Don't want to sound obnoxious but... as he found a new job yet?

@K1LLEGAL OK. I used to go at a friend's house and see him play Ratchet and Clank on the PlayStation. The game seemed nice and I'm quite sure it was, but given time and money I'd prefer to invest in Ocarina of Time anytime: I'd rather stick with the best. I think our argument is based on a cross-misunderstanding, mine which you've outlined and which I thank you for allowing me to acknowledge it. On the other side, I believe we Nintendo fans are more concerned about the attitude the developers of good games such like Ratch and Clank and probably Metro Last Light and Saints Row 4 have against the Nintendo audience. Therefore, what we are slamming are not the games per se but the developers and the way that they treat us.
Now imagine for a second that the Wii U turns out to be a success. Imagine that Nintendo's upcoming releases prove that the Wii U is, in fact, a lot more powerful than "current-gen" consoles. Now, since the console becomes profitable, Insomniac and the likes of 4A try to look a little more at the hardware and to understand how Nintendo came up with such feats like Pikmin 3 on a "last-gen" console, they find out, and they bring their games to the Wii U. Since they'll have to promote the release of their games on the Wii U, they'd be singing a different tune, talking about Wii U possibilities and forgetting all the BS that had been saying the past months, since Nintendo and these developers themselves, with their own games, would have proven that "last/current/next-gen" mambo jumbo to be wrong.
Now, when that happens — "if" that happen, for the doomsayers --... do you seriously see me buying these third-party games at launch?
Do you see me buying the game of somebody who spread BS about my system, only to be all smiles when they saw I had money? And quite franky do you see my buy their games at launch when I'd be crawling under high quality Nintendo games, and when I know third-party games are always half-priced a few months after their release?

@LavaTwilight Yessir.

@Royalblues So why should we be mad that their games aren't coming to the Wii U, if they just CAN'T come to the Wii U for agreement reasons. Why the f*** the Insomniac dude needs to speak his mind harshly on a console he just CANNOT work on?
What I am mad about is at the misperception he is promoting against the Wii U, which given the way he stands seems quite intentional.

@K1LLEGAL Maybe some people don't quite have the time and money to invest in more than one company, so they might as well stick with the best. Maybe some people don't want to support the companies that fuel the fire against the company they prefer. And maybe some people just do not like the way this industry is going outside of what Nintendo is producing and fostering. That might as well be me.

@RaymanFan2 Amen.

@K1LLEGAL Just remind me to look for you on Smash U. Damn, I'm getting this game day one.

@XCWarrior Just like I've been saying for a while to not be surprised if first-party Wii U games this holiday season look more beautiful than PS4 third-party launch titles.
I mean folks, E3 is here soon, we'll have our games details and our games soon on our platform, we ALL KNOW that if Nintendo can release just five first-party games the likes of Mario and Zelda by this holiday season, and five in the six months afterwards making 10 HD Nintendo-quality games, even the biggest hater will buy the Wii U to play Smash and Zelda. Too bad I'll be there online to teach him a thing or two about Smashing.

@Royalblues What was I saying... You need to understand, Ratchet and Clank has never been on any Nintendo consoles, and I don't remember us begging for their games. If and only if their games would find their way eventually to the Wii U, what the dude said is a really, really bad start.

@bunnyking You're fundamentally correct. And I think this is really sad. It used to be fun hanging around here, Nintendo-fun: now it just isn't anymore. The only way I find to have some fun is to troll the trolls that have been brought to this community.

You know, I've been reading this kinda stuff for a while and I have to admit, it did catch my attention. In the last six months or so, I have heard about developers and games I couldn't care less before: Metro Last Light, Dead Island Riptide, Saints Row 4, just to name a few. (I think the last one was a random developer letting his thousand-dollar dev kit collecting dust.) Matter of fact, I STILL do not care.

It really sucks not being able to see in 3D, with all the camera movement it seems clear the game is way more stunning on the 3DS than it is on this video...

@rjejr "Being a Vita exclusive is not a good business plan."
You don't say... :/

@banacheck Apparently EA wouldn't have the humility to ask for that help... And that's sad because when ("if" for the doomsayers) the Wii U becomes a success and EA comes around to ask that help, Nintendo will not be too please to give it to them.

This is what I call customer service.

@banacheck I quite think @Rief's example I've just read proved that they actually reach the developers that care enough to ask for some info, doesn't it? Nintendo just doesn't have any incentive in doing the kind of babysitting this developer seems to expect, since they know that it is their own games that sell their systems.

@FernandoMachado YES SIR!!!

http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/archive/06-21-2012/message

@Rief That's a really nice story to hear. I sent an e-mail to the guy that made Electric Man 2 about if he could port it to the Wii U and he said he would look into it. I think I'm gonna tell him what happened to you so that he can easily get started.

@rmeyer Hahahahaha!!!!!

@banacheck When you're hard that work actually making games, when you're hard at work making sure they'll give your customers the satisfaction they deserve, when your hard at work already encouraging your own developers to make games in an industry that gives them a bad rep and a hard time...
If Sony is so open to major third-party developers, maybe it's because they know their platforms have next to no worth without them.

@bunnyking How about any developers who doesn't make an effort to run those engine on the Wii U shouldn't be worth the time of Wii U owners? And on which platform do you think you're gonna play that X?
Yet then you'll be surprised when those developers start moving their arses.

@fluggy How about playing these games on the PS3?

Damn, the original source is in Norwegian... :/

I need to inquire on how one can spend that money on dev kits and let them gather dust... Talk about return on investment.

Sigh... We gon' see when the real games are here if it's all about third-parties again. A Nintendo fan website should know better than that. Or had anybody here seriously bought any Nintendo console whatsoever specifically to play what they could play on a competitor's platform?!?!?!
(I can't believe I've become a troll around here, this is really sad.)

@Midnight3DS "The Wii overcame a lot of odds. The Wii U can too."
Oh yes it will.

Honestly, with the experience I have had since launch with third-party games on the Wii U, I hope third-parties won't blame Nintendo fans for not buying their games in the future when Nintendo starts bringing what's real.
What goes around comes back around. Just saying.

@MrWalkieTalkie This is what I call next-gen. I'm calling it now and again, don't be surprised this holiday season if first-party Wii U games are on-par — if not better — than third-party PS4/Nextbox launch titles.

If the studio that makes the multiplayer also makes the Wii U version, that might be some great news for GamePad implementation in the multiplayer of the game.

I can't believe y'all did not understand what they meant they're going to do at E3. When Iwata said as, you and media put it, "no EA presentation from Nintendo," he meant no general E3 presentation BUT focused presentations for media, analysts and gamers. What now seems clearer to you guys has been said by Iwata when he announced that no-E3 presentation all along, if anybody did care to read attentively what he was saying.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/130425/04.html

I just saw the video and that would have been awesome. And yeah, talking about appealing to Western gamers, you can't do better than that! Why???

I know I'm gonna buy Black or White 1 and 2 anytime since it's the only generation I haven't played. Some of us are probably just playing catch up.

@Burning_Spear Maybe because as proven here they're still selling...

My favorite is my profile picture.

...And there is hardly any lesson to teach to a company that has been relatively successful in this business for over 30 years.

Quite frankly, the argument is not meant for Wii U owners but for Wii U buyers. At this point in time you either have to be a dedicated Nintendo fan or to be rather wealthy to invest in or own a Wii U; there is no purpose in buying one right now for those who are neither one nor the other. I belong to the dedicated Nintendo fan category, and I'm happy with my system and with all the games it allows me to play right now. Yet even though I admit my 3DS is making in hard to boot my Wii U right now (Fire Emblem), without a PS3, an Xbox 360 nor a gaming PC, I still have already too much to play.

It'd be fun as a two-player multiplayer with the GamePad and the TV screens. That is, if it's rightfully implemented...

@GooRoo You should play New Art Academy. Seriously. I used to believe I would never enjoy drawing nor learn how to draw, and this game taught me both. It will take me some time to reach Miiverse levels, but at least now I know I can make it.

At 0:35 here is my profile picture!!

You'll have to pity me.

This picture is just cracking me out.

I think that's a wise choice. I know I won't buy anymore third-party games, at least at launch, when Nintendo's releases come to the rescue, since I already have some to finish and some that I haven't even started yet, and I'll be busy with the likes of Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Wind Waker HD and, who knows, maybe that retro Metroid or that 3D Mario.

It's gonna be a bad time for the third-parties that will try to play catch up on the Wii U (looking at you Rayman Legends), so that's a period they might as well ignore altogether.

@Pikachupwnage +1, but unfortunately for your joke, his name is Rory.

Yeah, we need Wiimote+Nunchuck-only sessions. And I totally agree that Wiimote+Nunchuck in the campaign makes the Wii U version of Black Ops II the definitive version.

It begins.

@HawkeyeWii Yeah, I have that dream too...

I think it's been a year since I have that on my iPod, and I just listened to it yesterday doing homework.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=488934

Actually, a 128 Go can work on the 3DS: you just need to reformat it. It's one of those other things (like plugging in a portable hard drive with a Y-cable to the Wii U, no need for a power source) that is just too awesome for Nintendo to talk to us about.