Now that the dust has settled following E3, Nintendo fans can take stock and assess which games they're planning to pick up for Switch and 3DS. The big N, for its part, is happy to help us make those plans.
The Nintendo of America Twitter account has posted an infographic showing some of the major releases on the way this year. It's not an exhaustive list - there's no Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition, to give just one example - and naturally it overlooks the pleasing breadth of download titles due this year, but it gives an indication of the games that were given focus at E3.
What do you think of this line-up, and what other Switch and 3DS games are you excited about that didn't make it into the infographic? Let us know in the comments below.
[source twitter.com]
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It's pretty sparse. That's what you need 3rd party support for. Of those games on Switch, for me just Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are must haves.
Edit: I'm just going to leave this here.
Nintendo Switch - Capcom Has Moved On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvvZMsTYSM0
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yep. The three system sellers for me are Odyssey, XC2, and Monster Hunter XX (western release pls)
A decent number, apart for the usual "Summer Games Drought". The Fall period seems to be where its at.
Only Metroid, Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade and possibly Sonic Mania are on my definite list but I am eyeballing 6 other titles to possibly pick up.
Tasty. Not a bad year. Wish Pocket Fighter was on there.
Some great 1st party titles! I really enjoyed Nintendo's E3 lineup... But where are all the 3rd party titles that were listed in the initial Switch reveal? Like Shin Megami, Project Octopath..and all the games from the other companies that were mentioned as working on Switch projects?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE not sure if you're sarcastic or not
Ubisoft, ea, Bethesda, Bandai Namco all in the infographic
I still think it's odd Xenoblade is apparently 'THE' Christmas game. I understand they don't want to release Mario against Sonic, or get drowned out by Battlefront, but it does feel like there isn't that game for Little Jimmy to open on the 25th.
Or are we going to get something else announced 3 months out?
Oddysey, xc2 ,mario rabbids ,spla2oon, arms, fe warriors, portable skyrim, rocket league. Not a bad list.
@MrGawain
Why isn't Mario still that game for little Jimmy to open during Christmas? Mario releases in late October, which is only two months away from Christmas and most people do Christmas shop early these days. It's most likely releasing at the perfect time to maximize sales.
Any word on DQ 11 for Switch?
@MrGawain Parents walking into the store will still see Mario either way, even if it released this summer. It's probably even better for it to release earlier anyway, since people doing early Christmas shopping will see it.
MHXX better show up on there soon. >:c
Looks good to me. I know ppl say Switch needs 3rd party games, but this seems like a lot to keep my family busy.
Arms (playing it already, love it)
Splatoon 2 (a top shelf gem without question)
Mario Kingdom Battle (looks insanely good)
Sonic Mania (finally a Sonic to be hyped for)
Fire Emblem Warriors (way better than HW)
Mario Odyssey (another GotY contender)
Rocket League (so awesome having on handheld)
Skyrim (crazy we'll have a handheld version!!!)
Xenoblade 2 (game will be epic!)
Metroid Samus Returns (ahhhhhhhhhh!!!)
Monster Hunter Stories (love this one)
Monster Hunter XX (I'm importing, it's MH in HD on Switch, and will be super easy to play regardless of language)
I guess I would call myself a "casual" gamer in the sense that I have difficulty setting aside more than 4 or 5 hours per week for gaming and BotW and Overwatch have kept me happy for months. Dropping in Splatoon, a tactics Mario game, Metroid, etc will probably prevent me from looking at the PS4 catalog for quite a while... a great e3 in my mind
@Joeynator3000
Join me. Monster Hunter will be on Switch, in HD... don't let a little thing like menu language stop you from partaking in such a dream scenario.
We can learn together. Besides, I'll be talking about this game non stop once I'm playing. Would be nice to at least have one other person to discuss it with 😆
Seriously though, consider it. I'd written off importing so long ago I never stopped to actually think about how hard it would actually be. And of all games, this has got to be one of the easiest to play... especially if you've played Generations (can even reference that game for help, and there's a menu/label/name fan translation of XX on 3DS which I'll be using to reference, and will gladly share tips. Plus Arekkz and Gaijin Hunter have promised tutorials... how bad can it be? Pick a quest one by one, color coded for type, and once you're playing it's all the same. Bar up top even says MAX in English, and items show icons and English letters for which button to press...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I'll always take a couple amazing games over a hundred samey or mediocre ones. Switch is building one of the best libraries in the history of game consoles, and it's only been out three months!
Pretty strong and solid first year lineup for the Switch. 1 major gamer per month is something that I think Nintendo should keep doing
Well considering the indies and the majority of the announced (via directs or random announcements) 3rd party games aren't up here we have a very packed year ahead of us. My poor bank account can't handle all this goodness.
Why do people complain about the lack of games, and the size of their backlog? These complaints contradict each other.
I think that's how you say that.
" ... and what games are you excited about that didn't make it into the infographic?"
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.... maybe Overcooked, too? Hollow Knight? And Binding of Isaac. I get that Indie releases aren't noteworthy enough to list on here but still - S.T.A.R.D.E.W. V.A.L.L.E.Y.!!!
Anyway from what is on here, it may look a little sparse, though most of the things on here interest (and many even excite) me enough to buy them (day one as per the usual): Ever Oasis, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids, Sonic Mania, Pokemon Tekken DX (that's what Pokken is called here in Germany since Pokken sounds like Pocken which is german for smallpox), Fire Emblem Warriors, Mario Odyssey, Monster Hunter Stories (those amiibos better come here or I swear to god I will ...!), Rocket League, Sonic Forces, UltraSun/UltraMoon, and of course Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
It is a great line up. As an older gamer at 37 i dont have time to play everything on release. I'm still content with Zelda and Kart on Switch for now. Mario Odessey is my next main game but at some point will pick up arms, splatoon and rabbids. A great 9 month line up for switch this year. I think Smash Deluxe will be Spring 2018 and Prime 4 will be winter 2018 release.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Correct me if I'm wrong (I might be, I don't pay that much attention to these things) but of the 17 Switch games on there, aren't only 5 first-party (Mario, Pokken, Arms, Splatoon, and Xenoblade)? Even if you want to throw in the Rabbids and FE Warriors because they use first-party characters, that still makes it 7-10 first-party to third-party. Seems like a good ratio to me.
I'm getting...
3DS: Ever Oasis, Pikmin, Metroid: Samus Returns, Monster Hunter Stories.
Switch: Splatoon 2, Sonic Mania, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Condolences for my bank account. Also, I just remembered I ordered Horizon Zero Dawn the other day. I think I'm well and truly gamed up for the year.
There are still a whole bunch of games with no firm release date/window announced - which is kinda frustrating...
Overcooked!: 2017
Stardew Valley: 2017
The Escapists 2: 2017
...it'd be great to know how these games (and more) are going to fit in to my gaming year! #FirstWorldProblems
@JaxonH Eh, I'm still thinking it'll be localized soon.
So...Does anyone want to buy my Switch from me? This lineup is AWFUL. Aside from Mario and POSSIBLY Xenoblade, these are ports and recycled trash. Where's all the 3rd party support that was PROMISED from Nintendo? I have absolutely no desire to hang on to my switch now...rather sell it while it's hot and then buy it 2 years from now for $150 when there are actually games out.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO BUY IT!
@Joeynator3000
I'm hoping, and it seems there's at least a chance... but with MH Stories releasing this fall, and MH World releasing early 2018, I just don't see a good time for them to bring it over. I truly believe they want to funnel all western MH fans toward World, and XX could negatively impact that (to a degree).
Personally I think hey, different platforms, shouldn't matter, but knowing Capcom and how they operate, I'm just not confident they'll follow through. If they announce it before the game releases in Japan in August I'll cancel, otherwise I'm all in. If by chance it comes later, I'll just start a new play through with everyone else.
Pretty solid catalogue for this year, the one thing i'd add to that list is 9 parchments, that looks like great fun.
Well Stories is 3DS only, and XX is on the Switch, so...later this year seems fine to me. They don't have to bring the 3DS version over, lol
Great lineup, and that's just some of the games.
Super Mario Odyssey and Splatoon 2 are must haves in my book.
Sonic Mania and Rocket League are definite pick ups. I'll probably get Skyrim and FE Warriors next year.
Beyond that I'm interested in Mario + Rabbids, Pokken, NBA 2K18, and DB Xenoverse 2 (not listed here).
On 3DS I'll probably get either Gold or Silver and then wait until next year to pick up Metroid and Ultra Sun.
Also got South Park and SW Battlefront II on the radar.
Got Arms, will Get Splatoon 2...Rabbids and Odyssey !
@cameronw3st
If this lineup ain't doin it for you, then you were foolish to buy a Switch in the first place, cause this is one of the best 9 month lineups of any Nintendo console to date. Everyone else sees awesome brand new IP, brand new games in some of the most acclaimed series of all time like Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade 2 and Mario Odyssey, new games like Fire Emblem Warriors and Mario Kingdom Battle, portable versions of some of the most popular video games of our time like Skyrim, Rocket League, NBA 2k18 and FIFA 18, and that's on top of Zelda Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe- 2 of the best video games money can buy.
All in the first 9 months.
So ya, if you thought Switch was the console to buy to play western mainstream games like Call of Duty, Assassins Creed, Destiny, etc..
you definitely goofed.
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http://bulksell.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?SingleList&sellingMode=AddItem&guest=1&ebay-mobile-status=success
@felony211662 There's no major third party support at all.
@nin10doom I'm thinking they will start announcing info for those games VERY soon AND I think a lot of companies pledged support but were still weary until they seen the sales of the Switch, which haven't dropped yet. Trust me, the Switch will be fine.
Still busy with Zelda, Disagea and Mario kart 8.
Will get Odyssey, Sonic , Mario and Rabbids, Xenoblade 2, Skyrim and Fire Emblem Warriors for Switch.
Ever oasis and Metroid 2 for 3 ds.
Totally don't understand people complaining about a lack of games . I will struggle to be able to play all of these.
Awesome job by Nintendo
Arms, Splatton2, Xenoblade2, Mario, NBA and Zelda DLCs.. when should I play this games? very strong 1st year..
Nintendo is bringing it, with the Wii-U 3rd support left when they noticed Nintendo itself was barely supporting it, with Switch they will ultimately jump on board (more-so) after all these titles are coming out and in development. I got to be honest, I could live just on Nintendo support with the Switch. I have a PS4 as well.
Skyrim,NBA 2k and hopefully the rumors are true See 2k18
Geez all these games i need to have lol. My wallet will bleed....
Skyrim's a winter game now? I wonder what's taking so incredibly long. It was one of the very 1st games announced in the fall of last year. :/
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I dunno man. I count 17 Switch games on there between yesterday and Christmas. And before you say it, we all know Skyrim is a port, but it's also STILL a best seller 6 years after its release. There are also a good chunk of indies and games that haven't been dated yet so it's really not barren
PS DBZ Xenoverse actually just got dated September 7th. Gimme some love when you post that article NLife staff.
I have a list of games that's going nuts, I don't know how someone has time to play all these titles and still want more.
1. Rime - on Twitter they say Summer
2. Yooka-Laylee - patched and perfect
3. Battle Chasers - Joe Mad!!!
4. Skyrim - I've never played it, so it's like new
5. Mario - Obviously
6. Rabbids - Actually my most anticipated
7. Sonic Mania - I first heard about this at e3 and it looks incredible
8. Xenoblade 2 - I loved the first one?
That's a lot of gaming
@legendwaker Seriously! Little Jimmy can wait a month and a half to play Mario and it will be even better when he opens it Christmas morning. It's absurd to think he can't wait. Sheesh. This world today is insane, needs a freaking game released December 20th or something? Ridiculous.
Ever Oasis and Metroid SR for me. Not getting an NS until next year or 2019. Library should be filled out by then. More 3rd parties will have jumped onboard by then, too.
And yeah, Xenoverse 2 confirmed for NS is great!
There's something for me every month. Although I can see how people want third party support (real third party support).
@CB85 did you hear that it was being published by Nintendo? I wonder if it's placed meticulously for their line up
@JKRiki @legendwaker @MrGawain Little Jimmy is dead. He goes by the name "J!mn00bP0Wn3rover9000" now.
I'm still shocked XC2 is slated for 2017.
The rest of this year is gonna be expensive for me.
Definitely getting day one:
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Only M+L I haven't played)
Mario & Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Metroid: Samus Returns
Middle-Earth: Shadow of War
Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition (My favourite Wii U game)
South Park: The Fractured But Whole
Super Mario Odyssey
Dependent on reviews:
Assassin's Creed: Origins (2 years better be worth it)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
Fire Emblem Warriors
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 (Going downhill for awhile now)
Need for Speed: Payback
RiME
Sonic Forces
Star Wars: Battlefront II (Not falling for it again)
and as for the Maybe pile:
LEGO Worlds
Minecraft: Story Mode - The Complete Adventure
Pokken Tournament DX
Rocket League
Sonic Mania
Splatoon 2 (It's just not really getting me excited like the first)
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (4 was very underwhelming)
Redout, Sine Mora EX, Payday 2, One Piece Unlimited World Red, Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy The Telltale Series, Farming Simulator 2018, LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2, Rime, Dragonball 2 Xenoverse, Batman A Telltale Game Series, Constructor HD, Cars 3 - Driven to Win, Cave Story+, Dragon Quest Heroes 1+2, Battle Chasers Nightwar, Minecraft Story Mode - The Complete Adventure, Steep, Touhou Kobuto V Burst Battle, Troll and I, Soldam Drop Connect, Erase to name a few are missing on the list
@Joytendo22 Stardew Valley out this month?! NICE! ..that's my birthday prezzie sorted!
@kmpyj They're probably sleeping in their offices working 12 hour days and had to tell their families they were going on "an extended business trip."
@SLIGEACH_EIRE in all fairness there are a lot of games missing. Like redout and burst battle 5
@felony211662 He's not sarcastic, he's just sligeach. That's his thing.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
...You sure you like Nintendo?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE True, but then again, they can't all have a torrent of 3rd party support like a SNES, Dreamcast, or Playstation 2. They're working with what they've got, so it'll take a while to get going. And it looks like it's getting there!
2017 is shaping up to be the best year of Nintendo gaming this century.
@Donutsavant Really? Wow. Hm. The plot thickens.
Nintendo is gonna sell me 6 switch games and 2 3ds games :3
It seems to be getting little love or publicity, but is anyone else SUPER stoked for RPG Maker Fes on 3DS in two weeks??
@MrGawain "but it does feel like there isn't that game for Little Jimmy to open on the 25th."
Here ya go. Games like this are made w/ Little Jimmy and his dad in mind.
Lego Marvel Super Heros 2 - Nov 14, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGzAFBVV1j0
Why leave that out of the graphic? Maybe people on here see it as shovelware or something, but it will sell well this holiday, should help that it comes out a week after Thor: Ragnarok.
There's a few great games on that list, but most of them aren't doing it for me. Ever Oasis, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and Pokemon Ultra S&M are my main highlights.
for 3ds, rpg maker fes looks really promising, and could be great with good community support. im already planning quests of differing length and genre
EOV and those other atlus rpgs too, along with culdcept hevolt,which looks really interesting also. im a big fan of tabletop rpg games
im loving miitopia demo and am certainly hyped for MHStories
I really hate that infographic. Seasons are not a good way to align a release date schedule as some people confuse "fall" and "winter". Fall: Oct-Nov-Dec, Winter: Jan-Feb-March. That's why most people use "Holiday" as a time frame.
@cameronw3st Because I feel your pain and totally sympathize with your plight, facing such a miserable lineup of ports and recycled trash, I will take away the source of your suffering for $50. Surely this is enough for a redundant console with no interesting games.
Compare this with The PS4 and Xbox one initial lineup and Nintendo comes out very favourably.
Splatoon, Mario, Rabbids and Xenoblade are must haves for me. I will buy Rocket league even though I have it for the PS4 as well.
Having two GOTY contenders (assuming Mario is that good) in a new consoles first year is unheard of.
I congratulate Nintendo for a great launch window.
@audiobrainiac There are tons of games not on there as no Indie's were listed.
Already own:
Breath of the Wild + DLC
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Buying:
Splatoon 2
Super Mario Odyssey
Smash (if it comes, which it probably will)
Animal Crossing (if it comes, which it probably will)
Pokemon (Not totally sure about this one, but I would be really surprised if I didn't end up wanting to buy it)
Maybe:
ARMS
Mario + Rabbids
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Metroid Prime 4
Kirby
Yoshi
Project Octopath Traveller
Monster Hunter XX (If it gets localized. I might not buy it even then, depending on how good MH World turns out to be)
I'm sure as time goes on and more games get revealed, plenty more will be added to that list, but that's it for the time being.
@cameronw3st Buying a Nintendo console for third party games hasn't been a good idea since the N64.
Wishlist prior to E3 (only counting E3 games, I got more like FE Switch in 2018):
Arms
Splatoon 2
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Fire Emblem Warriors
Pokken Tournament
Aaand after E3:
Splatoon 2
Pokken Tournament
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Rip, my list is shorter than before T_T
Personally i think nintendo are doing a great job with the big releases weve already had zelda, mario kart, splatoon and now we have arms and mario is coming all in the same year! the fact mario will be out before xmas is a good move
I'll be getting 3 games:
Splatoon 2
Mario and Rabbids
Mario Odyssey
I'd have gone for Metroid, but I heard the game will only be less than 10 hours. That's not worth $40 to me, even with how good the game looks.
I hope ill soon be able to play arms with two joy cons.
There are at least 5 switch games i consider must haves. And ever oasis...
If xenoblade releases this year and delivers i consider this a great first year.
@Amsterdamsters Yeah I know, I was halfway joking, but would still love to know what the heck is taking so long on that game.
Too many games, not enough money! Especially as I'm planning on adding RPG Maker and Culdcept Revolt on the 3DS to the ones listed above, which I don't think have been mentioned yet.
@Radbot42 Just because a game can be beat in 10 hours or less doesn't mean it should be beaten that fast. I can beat BotW in less then an hour so does that apply? All 2d Metroids can be beat in less then 3 to 5 hours but are some of the best exploration in all of gaming!
Glad Nintendo is back
Not the best infographic ever. It's missing a lot of games - Rime, Yooka-Laylee, Redout, Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2, Dragonball Xenoverse 2, Sine Mora ex, Namco Museum, Monopoly, Battle Chasers Nightwar, Payday 2, Steep (if it still exists).
Throw in all the indie games (surely we're due an update on them v.soon) and it's a fantastic first year.
I've already got 12 Switch games and there's a good chance I'll be clearing 30 by December 31. Well played, Nintendo.
The early Switch games are far more appealing to me than the Wii U ones. Sine Mora, RedOut and Steep still on my radar, but BotW->Mario Kart->ARMS->Splatoon 2->Odyssey alone is fantastic.
@cameronw3st
"Where's all the 3rd party support that was PROMISED from Nintendo?"
When were you PROMISED anything that hasn't been delivered?
On Switch I'm most excited for the Zelda DLC and Syberia (even though 3 has had average reviews) and I'll also get Snake Pass and a few other Indies - Rime, Ocean Horn, etc.
Generally, though, I'm being more choosy with games now, since there are so many coming out and I still have a massive backlog. Still not played Captain Toad and I've had that since 2015.
Still definitely getting Ever Oasis, Rpg Maker, Pikmin, Miitopia Monster Hunter Stories and Metroid for 3DS. Long live my favourite console ever!
Still have Horizon and Tomb Raider on PS4 (got a deal on the PS4 the day before I got the Switch, and PS4 is still in its box - maybe I'll flog it). Dimensions is sitting there too. Yeah, I'm good, for now. I'll get the standout games like Odyssey, but they're going to have to wow me and I'll pass on anything multiplayer-focused.
@rjejr
But you can play Lego Marvel on loads of other systems. What Nintendo have usually done (and so have their competition), is release a big game for Christmas just before December to hang their advertising on- that's what they've done with Pokemon and the 3DS this year.
My point was, no matter what fans think of Xenoblade, is it really an ideal tent pole Christmas release that some kid is going to base his opinion of Nintendo and the Switch on?
Also i forgot to mention Rayman Legends!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
The list is not exhaustive and is missing.
Runbow Pocket
Lady Layton
Etrian Odyssey V
Culdcept Revolt
Yokai Watch 2 Psychic Specters
Kirby
River City Rival Showdown
RPG Maker FES
As far as retail releases go. That's most of it with my listing. This doesn't include eshop stuff like mighty Gunvolt burst, timespinners or shakedown Hawaii.
The Switch year 1 is incredible compared to the Wii U's.
@invictus4000 Oh I'm super hyped for FES! Idk why it's not on the list there. I hope NL reviews it quickly!
@MrGawain - Little Jimmy must know that a game that releases on October 27th does not evaporate before Christmas. I am sure he will find this out.
cant recommend rocket league enough, if you haven't played it you MUST try it it is as fun as Mario Kart 8.
Skyrim is in the winter 2017 (holiday) column, yet Bethesda says Fall...hmm.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE haha, funny video! Though MH XX on switch will massively outsell World. Capcom had Japanese switch owners backs..... just not ours
@Jacob1092 Of course I do but I'm not going to let them off the hook for their mistakes.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You're hard to please, you know that, right?
@MrGawain "But you can play Lego Marvel on loads of other systems"
You can play Lego Worlds on other systems too, my kid signed up when early access started 2 years ago, but it made the infographic.
For a kid getting a Switch for Christmas they are all new games to them - ARMS, Splatoon 2, Mario + Rabbids, FEW, Mario.
I think releasing Mario Oct 27th, same day as Assassins Creed and Wolfenstien 2, makes it THE holiday game for anybody getting a Switch for Christmas. Plus I think they'll bundle 1 2 Switch by then.
Of course the real important question is - will Nitneod make enough Switch by Christmas that people will even be able to find one? Wii was hard to find for over 2 years in New York.
So I think rather than worry about what game the kid will get on the Switch for Christmas, the real worry is will the kid even be able to get a Switch for Christmas?
Far more impressive than the Wii U's first year. Nintendo seems to be pumping out at least one great first-party title every month.
If only Nintendo could just dump the 3DS. That infographic would look really impressive of all the games on there were coming to the Switch. It's exciting to think that all of their game development is going to go into one console, giving it a massive library. I'm getting chills just thinking about it.
And sure, the third-parties aren't flooding the system with games yet, but can you blame them for hesitating after the Wii U's dismal performance? If Switch sales momentum can continue (and everything seems to indicate it's going to), the third-party games will come along in time to take advantage of that potentially large user base. I'm not too worried about it, because it looks like I will have plenty to play from Nintendo itself in the meantime. And besides, I don't buy Nintendo's consoles for third-party games. I never have.
@Zingo Nintendo wasn't just barely supporting the Wii U, the issue was that they under estimated the time to complete HD resolution games, and also underestimated the number of games people are expecting to see come out on a console.
My wife is pretty pissed at Nintendo for their lackluster showing for both the Wii and Wii U. She played Snipperclips for a few minutes but refused to play much else on it on principal. Though she is not too happy with the releases on Xbox One either, so far.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Then don't let them off the hook. If you don't demand better, you don't get better in return. It's why I won't shut up about Doom or other FPS games for the Switch (HINT HINT developers).
Then again, don't forget to point out what pleases you, or else everyone will dismiss you as a complainer.
Solid lineup for 2017, I'm impressed with all of the heavy hitters that are coming out this year.
@JasmineDragon I will sell it to you for exactly what I paid for it: $525.
That includes Switch, hard shell case, Zelda, Mario Kart, Minecraft, Snipperclips and Shovel Knight and an extra charging cable
Don't care what anyone says, that is a strong release schedule and a good chunk are 3rd party. I'm getting at least 7 of those titles, already have ARMs and it's been real fun.
@Dezzy "The Switch year 1 is incredible compared to the Wii U's."
There you are. I read this comment earlier but then couldn't find it. Give me some time and I'm going to make a list of games released in its 1st year on Wii U. Then make that statement again. It'll be just 1st and 3rd party, and won't include all the indie gems as well. The list would be too long otherwise. I'll be updating the list as I go.
~ Assassin's Creed III
~ Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
~ Batman: Arkham City – Armored Edition
~ Batman: Arkham Origins
~ Call of Duty: Black Ops II
~ Call of Duty: Ghosts
~ Darksiders II
~ Deus Ex: Human Revolution — Director's Cut
~ Disney Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
~ Disney Infinity
~ DuckTales: Remastered
~ Fast & Furious: Showdown
~ FIFA 13
~ Game & Wario
~ Hot Wheels: World's Best Driver
~ Injustice: Gods Among Us
~ Jeopardy!
~ Just Dance 4
~ Just Dance 2014
~ Just Dance Kids 2014
~ The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
~ Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes
~ Lego City Undercover
~ Lego Marvel Super Heroes
~ Madden NFL 13
~ Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games
~ Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
~ Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
~ Monster Hunter: Frontier G
~ NBA 2K13
~ Need for Speed: Most Wanted U
~ NES Remix
~ New Super Luigi U
~ New Super Mario Bros. U
~ Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge
~ Nintendo Land
~ Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures
~ Pikmin 3
~ Planes
~ Rapala Pro Bass Fishing
~ Rayman Legends
~ Resident Evil: Revelations
~ Scribblenauts Unlimited
~ Scribblenauts Unmasked: A DC Comics Adventure
~ Sing Party
~ Skylanders: Giants
~ Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure
~ Skylanders: Swap Force
~ The Smurfs 2
~ Sniper Elite V2
~ Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
~ Sonic Lost World
~ SpongeBob SquarePants: Plankton's Robotic Revenge
~ Super Mario 3D World
~ Tank! Tank! Tank!
~ Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition
~ Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
~ Transformers Prime: The Game
~ The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct
~ Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper
~ Wheel of Fortune
~ Wii Fit U
~ Wii Party U
~ Wii Sports Club
~ The Wonderful 101
~ ZombiU
Granted some of the games weren't great but they represent support from major 3rd party publishers. There's also a hell of a lot top quality games. Far more than what Switch has so far lined up for its first year.
Wow! There's an avalanche of games for Nintendo systems right before winter!
All the games I want are listed, 12 titles post-Splatoon 2, but 2 are missing.
Rayman Legends Definitive Edition
& Yo-Kai Watch 2: Psychic Specters...
BTW, My wallet is already dead and buried...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Yes? Are you intending to prove my point or counter it?
@Dezzy
It's not even year 1. It's the first 10 months. Draw that comparison to Wii U and the difference is even more apparent.
Not just in games either. At this stage Wii U was already doomed, support falling away, first-party games delayed and sales flatlining. Things were so bad even Nintendo didn't pretend otherwise, apologising to Wii U owners twice for the lack of software.
@cameronw3st What are the details? How much you selling it for, what color are the joycons, you including games with the console?
Does anyone have any details on dragon ball xenoverse 2? It is supposed to release this fall but I have heard no additional details.
Radiant historia, SMT Strange Journey, Culdcept, RPG Maker FES and Etrian Oddisey V not listed. The 3ds also has a terrific year ahead! Hopefully we'll get DQ XI for both Switch and 3ds next year.
Ugh, I see 15 games I definitely want with another few maybes, slow down Nintendo!
@cameronw3st you spent over $500 on a console along with games and accessories in three months and you didn't even want it? That's on you man, you could've easily waited a few months to see what would be released, if you were expecting big cross platform titles you clearly haven't looked into which platform you were buying.
Solid lineup, far better than the Wii U's. We need a direct soon, though, so they can announce definitive release dates for first and third parties.
Im more than pleasantly surprised with the 3ds lineup for the rest of this year. Combine this list with games like RPG Maker FES, Culdcept Revolt, the multiplayer Kirby game and Etrian Odyssey Vand you have 12 games coming out from now until the end of the year. That's fantastic in my book!
I've got a ton of games to look forward to:
Splatoon 2
Sonic Mania
Super Mario Odyssey
Sonic Forces
Stardew Valley
Harvest Moon Light of Hope
Shantae Risky's Revenge
Zelda BoTW DLC
Shovel Knight King Knight
Kirby Switch
Starlink Battle for Atlas
Metroid Prime 4
Pokemon Switch
Upcoming NES classics and Virtual Console
Best time to be a Nintendo gamer!
@cameronw3st how much would you be willing to sell it for?
Fire Emblem Warriors is my game of the year!
Weren't all of those except Samoa Returns pretty much known, or at least leaked, prior to E3? So for the rest of 2017, Nintendo rustled up just 1 genuine surprise?
@PuppyToucher $525 for Switch (grey joycons), hard shell case, Zelda, Mario Kart, Minecraft, Shovel Knight, Snipperclips and an extra charging cable. That's exactly what I paid for everything.
Comes in box, looking like BRAND NEW.
@Oat $525 for Switch (grey joycons), hard shell case, Zelda, Mario Kart, Minecraft, Shovel Knight, Snipperclips and an extra charging cable. That's exactly what I paid for everything.
Comes in box, looking like BRAND NEW.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You just proved @Dezzy's point.
Switch list for just the first 10 months:
~ Super Mario Odyssey
~ The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
~ ARMS
~ Splatoon 2
~ Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
~ Pokken Tournament DX
~ Fire Emblem Warriors
~ Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
~ Xenoblade Chronicles 2
~ 1-2-Switch
~ Snipperclips: Cut it Out Together
~ Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers
~ Disgaea 5 Complete
~ Super Bomberman R
~ Puyo Puyo Tetris
~ Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
~ FIFA 18
~ NBA 2K18
~ One Piece Unlimited World Red Deluxe
~ Sonic Mania
~ Sonic Forces
~ Minecraft
~ Minecraft Story Mode: The Complete Adventure
~ Rocket League
~ Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
~ Lego City Undercover
~ Lego Worlds
~ Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2
~ Touhou Kobuto V: Burst Battle
~ Steep
~ Rayman Legends Definitive Edition
~ NAMCO Museum
~ Monopoly
~ Payday 2
~ Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star
~ Just Dance 2017
~ Just Dance 2018
~ Skylanders Imaginators
~ I am Setsuna
~ Cars 3 Driven to Win
~ Battle Chasers: Night War
~ Sine Mora EX
~ Othello
~ New Frontier Days: Founding Pioneers
~ Battle Sports Mekuru
I didn't include any Japan-only games, indies (minus Rocket League), or NeoGeo titles.
Perhaps it's lower in quantity, but it's significantly higher quality and there's no massive 9 month drought.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
That giant list of games is exactly why 3rd parties are reluctant to support the Switch and are currently taking the "wait & see" approach. Out of all of those Wii U games you listed that came to the platform in 2012-2013, practically every 3rd party game bombed. Even much of Nintendo own first party efforts, outside of heavily marketed titles like Nintendo Land, NSMBU, Wind Waker HD, Wii Party U, and Mario 3D World, were met with mediocre or outright poor sales. Nintendo was probably devastated to see Wii Fit go from a 20+ million seller on the Wii to a <1 million seller on the Wii U.
Nintendo's own software seem to be performing much better on the Switch right now than on the Wii U during the Wii U's early days, but 3rd party publishers seem to have shied away from investing heavily on the Switch in fear of another Wii U-esque disaster and have decided to support the Switch with a very small handful of key titles (FIFA, NBA 2K, Skyrim, Mario + Rabbids, etc) to see how well those games are received before deciding whether to bring over more games to the Switch.
EO V! Pre-ordered my copy today!
By the way, if you want to talk indies, the Switch absolutely DESTROYS the Wii U there.
@GraveLordXD
Skyrim is at heart a PC game. The special edition was nothing more than a GotY edition including all DLC packs, and graphics settings bumped up for the stronger hardware.
So, ya, it'll be the same exact game as the remastered version. It's confirmed to have all DLC packs included just like the remastered version, and the graphics are pretty clearly enhanced over the PS3/360 version (though not on the level of PS4/360).
But what I always tell people is, if it's not something you can discern my looking at it, then it probably doesn't matter. It does have all DLC, and it will run as best as it can on Switch hardware... what more can you ask for, really...
On the Switch side of things, I'm most looking forward to Mario Odyssey and Sonic Mania (although I'm considering just getting that off of Steam). For 3DS, definitely Monster Hunter Stories.
@JaxonH
If this doesn't get localised, I'll be importing it. Haven't played MH since 3U on the WiiU so there will be a couple of us in the same boat.
@OneArmedGiant
Oh that's good to hear! Be sure to stop by the MHXX forum thread when you get it... I'll be in there discussing the game as I play. I wonder if online will work as an imported game? Like, couple of us in the forum want to hunt together, if that's possible? Or if it will require a Japanese IP address.
I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if it turns out we can't... But it'd be really awesome if we could!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
What 3rd party games are REALLY 1000% you looking for ?
It seems you don't like almost all titles regardless 1st party or 3rd party.
You want 3rd party ? Here you go.
Nintendo has provided some 3rd party games during this year. But what happen just now ? You STILL Complained Again !!
Are you Expecting Nintendo will throw Thousand 3rd party titles during this year ?! (Smh)
You are such a Snooty gamer here...
Just try to like some titles from Switch. They will NOT Killing you even they are Not really AAA games. What's wrong with non AAA games ??
It seems you worship AAA games as your belief Too Much.
@MasterWario Me too, dude! I LOVE RPG Maker games and am determined to make a good, completed game with this one. So much so that I've already written the whole plot and outlined story themes, dungeons, and other game mechanics to try and work in. So excited!
@cameronw3st
I will buy Switch at the end of 2017 / beginning of 2018.
The game titles for Switch during 2017 are GREAT. 1st and 3rd party combined. I don't really care if 1st party or 3rd party, as long the games good, interesting enough, appropriate (Rated Everyone until Teen) I will buy. Don't rely on 3rd party too much, you will disappointed. Nintendo machines has Different 3rd party games, so Never Ever expecting Nintendo will be a Clone of ps4/xbox1. Nintendo has a LOT of Bright, Kiddie, Interesting 1st party games that Too Bad if you missed them.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It's only sparse if you've got no access to a non-Nintendo system, and thus need/want multiplatform releases at all costs. For a launch year, this is an incredible line-up:
Zelda BotW, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, ARMS, Splatoon 2, MarioXcomRabbids, Super Mario Odyssey, Fire Emblem Warriors, Xenoblade Chronicls 2 ... and this is only the major releases for the LESS-than-first-year,
If you don't enjoy that, I doubt you'll ever enjoy a Switch line-up, because frankly, I would be somewhat surprised if Nintendo could sustain this kind of pace next year. A new Zelda, Mario Kart, Super Mario and Xenoblade won't be around for another game on the console for a long time. There is a decent chance, that the next Zelda game we might get, might also be the systems swansong.
Ah yes, because the Wii U infographic worked out so well... Anyway it's interesting, I didn't know Lego Worlds was releasing, or that June was 'Spring.'
Not on the list but top of my watchlist are Hollow Knight and SteamWorld Dig 2. Aside from them, Mario Odyssey and XC2 are day-one buys, and I'll be keeping an eye on Mario v Rabbids, Splatoon 2 and FIFA 18. Also, I'm one of the few who thinks Sonic Forces might be more interesting than Mania - that trailer was awesome.
And @Haru17, in Japan, spring lasts until the summer solstice in June.
@Ralek85 Where are you going with a new Zelda and Mario Kart? They're Wii U ports. ARMS looks boring, the Splatoon sequel should be called 1.5.
Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 are good alright.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
So what with Wii U ports ??
There is Nothing Wrong.
ARMS looks interesting for me, pity of you if you called it boring. I will buy it and show it to you.
Try to LOVE some upcoming Switch games.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "ARMS looks boring, the Splatoon sequel should be called 1.5"
Try harder
Really excited about next year and seeing how they are going to deliver on their promise of not having a game drought.
Some of the comments on here show how deprived Nintendo only gamers are. "WOAH this lineup is great. Praise be to Nintendo!"
On this list of releases you have , rehashes, rereleases, and games that were released on the PS Vita. Just looking at this list convinced me to take the approach third parties are taking with the Switch. Wait and see.
Xenoblade 2 looks great but not enough for me to buy run out and buy a switch. I'll wait for Metroid prime 4 to come out. By then the library will be fleshed out and I'll also get Xenoblade 2 then. It's PS4 and PC for me.
@MrGawain Their big Christmas game is Xenoblade 2 and Pokemon Ultra, and Mario Odyssey! Mario is going to be the number one selling game on Switch this holiday, and also everyone getting the Switch for the first time this Christmas still has Mario Kart and Zelda to buy!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You got me wrong. I said, if you don't like this line-up, I don't know what Nintendo can do to make you happy. To that end, I pointed out that this system came out in March and we've already got a great Zelda game and Mario Kart game, and you will probably not see another one of the latter on the Switch, and as for the former, if you see another one, it'll be swansong, like now BotW for the WiiU and TP for GC.
I don't think BotW is in any way shape or form a worse game for being on the WiiU as well, seeing as the came out at the same time. ARMS is not boring, and I don't even like fighting games. As for DX, I'm just glad we got that battle mode. I feel conflicted about having to buy the game again to get the mode I watend all along, but it is what it is.
Calling Splatoon a version 1.5 shows that you either have an axe to grind here, for whatever reason, or you really have no idea what you're talking about - sorry to say, and not to start anything here, but seriously, that is simply an ignorant statement.
I freely admit, that I had similar thought initally, but since this E3, we know for a fact, that it is a proper stand-alone game. Yes, it is a Splatoon game, Splatoon mechanics and visuals and all, but ... that makes it what it is a sequel.
@Blizzia How could E3 have turned you off of ARMS? I'm just curious, because I'm not sure what E3 changed about ARMS. I think we already knew all that there was to knew before E3.
Troll Nintendo hater starter pak:
>>>>* "_____ was a Wii U game (I don't own a Wii U)"
>>>>* "When will Nintendo finally get Overwatch and... .... ...."
>>>>* "Switch is Xbox 360/PS3 level hardware."
>>>>* "Too many ports and not enough 3rd party support."
>>>>* "Other than FIFA, Minecraft, Skyrim, Rocket League, Stardew Valley, a bunch more indies, and Xenoblade, there are NO GAMES (I am Not Interested In Mario)."
>>>>* "When will Nintendo stop milking these 2D platformers?"
>>>>* "Nintendo needs new IPs because even though I've never played ARMS, Splatoon, Mario+Rabbids, Xenoblade, or Metroid, they don't count."
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The blame is on Sony here. They're bullying developers to NOT release their games on the Switch. They paid Capcom to prevent them from getting MH World on the Switch.
Well, of course it's not confirmed but everything points to it.
I can't believe a company needs to resort to dirty tactics as these to keep rivals down.
This article is spot on in everything it says:
https://csgmagazine.com/2017/06/16/e3-2017-impressions-sony-is-now-holding-back-the-gaming-industry/
Actually, that infographic is pretty poorly done. Just looks messy. The games are there and in a kind of order, but it's not easy on the eye.
I need an amiibo infographic... for scientific purposes!
@IceClimbers @SLIGEACH_EIR No matter how you look at it, 1st year of Switch definitely has better games than 1st year of Wii U. Wii U had a lot of garbage and ports. Mass effect 3, batman Arkham city, assassins creed 3, deus ex, darksiders 2 are all ports sold way after release on other systems (at $60 too) and not to mention the very long months of emptiness waiting for the next title. Hasn't been a month yet and won't be all the way up to November that Switch won't have one retail release. I loved my Wii U but it was very hard to defend it with those boring months of waiting for the next retail game. Can't say the same for Switch regardless if the next game is for you or not.
This year is only the second time we've ever gotten a main series mario and zelda game on a home console in the same year (to my recollection, sunshine and windwaker was the only other instance of this). That makes the Switch's first year astounding.
Ever Oasis, Metroid Samus Returns, and Monster Hunter Stories (confirmed for a Western release!!!!!!!!!) all coming by the end of this year! And with FE Echoes and Story of Seasons Trio of Towns still occupying tons of hours, my 3DS is very, very happy. Looks like I can put off getting a Switch until sometime next year (and by then its library of "must-own" games for me will be HUGE for only being around for a single year).
@felony211662 just stop. Go look at what those companies are releasing on XBox and PlayStation; it's not even comparable. Switch is being thrown table scraps in comparison. The only real wins Switch has from a relevant standpoint are FIFA and 2K18.
I'm still sad there's no MHXX Western version.
(And yes I know I can import, but it's just not the same since the usual people I do local-coop with won't be doing that.)
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I wouldn't base Capcoms future support entirely on Monster Hunter World considering the rumors I heard that Sony paid for it and that Capcom is supposedly under contract to NOT release a Switch version
I want all of the Switch games, sans Lego World and Just Dance. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Mario Odyssey are on my, "I need them today," list. Yeah, not literally "need," but I want them very badly.
@gatorboi352
WRONG !
Nintendo did awesome presentation from Super Mario Odyssey, Announcement of Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon for Switch, Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
Toll harder !!
@maruse
Hm....
Sony is Stinks now.
I dunno how I am suppose to see my ps4 games... (I owned 5 ps4 games)
I feel different now.
I think I hope all my ps4 game titles (just only 7 titles on my list) appear on Switch and I can completely stop using ps4, store my ps4 games inside my cabinet.
I'm far more excited for the 3DS games coming. As far as Switch titles go I'm looking at ARMS, Mario + Rabbids(need to see more gameplay of this though), Mario Odyssey and Skyrim for Switch.
@Ralek85
Don't mind sligeach eire.
He/she just want new games on his/her worshipped Wii U.
He/she is so jealous to see good Switch games comes out, trolls with negativity.
Basically, he/she don't like non AAA games, just only needs AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++ games to be survived. He/she just keep dreaming for games created by Lord from Heaven with AAAAAAAAAA+++++++++ quality.
Oh, sorry if I was type AAAAA.... so many.
@Joeynator3000 I've been watching Game Taco's playthrough of Stories...and I'm with him on this one: I would absolutely love to have it ported to the Switch. The game looks right up my alley! And with my 3DS having its unfortunate swimming accident early last year I'm all in on consoles...and the Switch as my portable console!
Shoot! I don't have enough money for 7 switch games and 1 3DS game
Holy moley. I intend on getting 13 of those Switch games, and that's not including third party titles such as Payday 2, Constructor, Steep, Monopoly, Yooka-Laylee, Minecraft etc., and who knows what other third party titles are on the horizon? The Switch being region-free doesn't help matters either, as I may import a few Japanese/U.S. exclusive retail releases as well. And don't get me started on the 3DS and amiibo.
I think I'll need to be more frugal/selective with third party software from this point on. This infograph has put matters into rather harsh perspective, and I think I may need to slow down, rather than go into the habit of accumulating software that I probably won't end up playing to completion.
I will most likely own more retail Switch games in 2017 alone (and that's less than 10 calendar months, mind you), than in the entirety of the Wii U's life to date. eShop releases aren't exactly stimulating any interest at this point, as they are too large (in terms of file size) and expensive for them to be worth prioritising over higher quality retail titles.
This is easily shaping up as the best/most expensive year to be a Nintendo gamer, and any naysayers merely seem to be clutching at straws to justify their resentment at not owning one. I just wish that the releases were more evenly spread out from launch onward, rather than being completely overwhelmed in the latter half of the year.
So I guess Steep is cancelled?
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.
Pikmin
These titles drew you in and got you thinking.
ARMS
Oh it's about arms. Move on.
@brandonbwii : The infographic only covers software with a confirmed release window. Steep is still "TBC 2017", so there is no logical place for it to be situated in the infographic.
I'm just glad to see the Switch getting so much more activity than the 3DS. I definitely agree with Nintendo winding the 3DS down gently rather than just going cold turkey. But I definitely want to see Nintendo putting their "everything" into the Switch", and so I'm actually happy to see the beginnings of a fade out happening on the older platform.
On the 3DS side, the one that has me the most excited, of course, is Metroid. And on the Switch side, Mario is the most brightly shining, though Splatoon and Skyrim are way up there as well! I would've added ARMS to that list as well, but since I bought it today and have already logged about an hour in it, it's kinda hard to say I'm "looking forward to it", you know?
Cheers!
@TeslaChippie
I always take issue with comments like that. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely loved Breath of the Wild, and I'm sure that Mario Odyssey will be the first game I buy when I eventually (maybe?) purchase a Switch, but you're mistaken if you think that any system that isn't Nintendo only offers "hundreds of samey games." What gets me is that, circa 2012, I saw so many diehard Nintendo fans slam Skyrim as a bug-filled mess of a game and, somehow, it has become this celebrated title for the Switch.....six years later! How in the (bleep) does that work?
The PS3 and PS4 do have a ton of mediocre games, yes, but so did the Wii, the Sega Genesis, the Atari 2600 (my bloody God, did that system ever have a plethora of garbage to sort through), and pretty much every other successful system. For every ten, or so, generic first/third person action games, you'll get a Bloodborne (intoxicating), or a Yakuza 0, Persona 5, Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nioh, Tearaway, Dark Souls III, Last of Us, Inside, Limbo, and countless others. That isn't to take away from Nintendo, as their position, for the past twenty-one years, has basically been quality over quantity. What has never made sense to me, and will never make sense, is that they could have both. They did, once upon a time.
I guess what strikes me as strange, but also telling, is that people are actually making a big deal about getting the ACA games, on a weekly basis. Old Neo Geo games, at this point, are considered major releases! Yes, they are great games, but it's basically SNK Playmore stepping up where Nintendo is stumbling. I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite, though, because I would buy a Switch tomorrow if they announced their VC with Gamecube support (I would kill to have Mario Sunshine and Viewtiful Joe 1 on the go! Henshin a'go-go!).
As a non Nintendo gamer, I bought the Switch on a hope and a prayer. It looked like the vita had been revived and would get a second chance at life! I have been a Sony diehard, and I can count on literally 2 hands all the Nintendo IP I have enjoyed in my life prior to the Switch, and half have been on the 3ds.
With that said, this is a really good 1st year window for a console. I got my PS4 as a gift when it was released and I actually played 3 games at launch, sold on( Killzone) and one was a indie download. That left Black Sails as the game I liked, and that because I'm a sucker for pirates.
I already have 3 games on Switch. All of which I play regularly, and intend on buying a definite 5 more before the end of the year. If anyone feels 8 games in 7 months isn't enough, then I'll show you a person that doesn't work, have a relationship, or any obligations.
The one thing I will say is I'm looking forward to more 3rd party. I know a lot of those games are 3rd party, but I'm looking forward to the type of diversity that the 3ds got. If what you want is AAA 3rd party support, get a PS4, I think they have top notch games there as well, I have a back log that I won't get through this year, thanks to both the Switch and P5.
The Switch fills both a decent role as a main console, and an EXCEPTIONAL role as a supplemental one.
From reading the other comments a bit, let me mention one thing:
The lack of 3rd party blockbusters is not.....no, no, that won't do....CUT! Let me try this again.....
The lack of 3rd party blockbusters was [ahem] ------NOT------ what killed the WiiU!!!! (....there we go)....
Instead, the lack of 3rd party blockbusters on the WiiU simply meant there wasn't that protective insulating layer to offset the comparatively sparse 1st and 2nd party support paired with a [theoretically potentially awesome but] miserably developer supported, and largely fan unloved albatross of a "special use case" (the tablet) which could never be decoupled from the system and preventing those things from doing the job instead.
The WiiU was a failure. Well, let's be honest, failure-ish - it was only a failure in a relative sense. It was actually a smash hit compared to the Atari Jaguar, Philips CD-i, Apple Bandai Pippin, and so many others. The original Wii, by comparison was a soaring success by all measures. So what was different and similar about the huge success of the Wii and the huge disappointment of the WiiU?
Was it 3rd party support? [BUZZER!]
No, both were very disappointing in terms of major 3rd party support (and both were actually pretty solid in terms of minor-tier 3rd party and indie support.)
So what was it then that set the two apart? Well, there were a thousand little things, sure.....but there were at least two super major things:
1) 1st and 2nd party software support. Volume, frequency, novelty, originality (vs upgraded re-releases, and whatnot), a cogent and robust Indie space and let's not forget - virtual console in the respective stores, useful, well-received "channels" and so on.
2) both offered innovative, unique, and at the time, completely revolutionary interface (use case) design propositions. But the difference was that the one the Wii offered was amazingly well received quite broadly and was widely believed to be refreshing and paradigmatic. Meanwhile, while all the potential was there with the WiiU tab (including a Game Boy Player style TV interface scheme for DS and 3DS games on the big screen), and while it certainly did have a small number of passionate fans and an even smaller number of committed developers, by and large, consumer and developer alike looked at the thing with reactions ranging from "eh" to "what the hell are we supposed to do with this thing?" Then you realize that the addition of the thing jacked up the price of the system, and that you were unbreakably tethered to it with no escape from it, and it's no wonder the success stories of the two systems are so vastly different.
The big 3rd party blockbusters might have provided some level of insulation for the WiiU from its fate. But -AT THE VERY MOST- it was a supremely distant tertiary cause.
So, Nintendo has proven with the Wii and the WiiU two things:
1) Nintendo can float a huge success with very little major 3rd party involvement.
2) Nintendo can sink a relative failure with very little major 3rd party involvement.
So why then are we so fixed on the matter of 3rd parties on the Switch - especially as it bears on the conversations of the system's success or failure proposition? It's like seeing smoke pouring out of a building to the south of you, and sending the fire department to the building to the north of you, and wondering why the fire's not going out. It is the absolute last place we should be looking. Most of us are smart, rational, reasonable people. But smart and simple, rational and irrational alike all become the same one-word descriptor once the fixation on 3rd party starts.....and that word is......[edit: "idiots" is probably way too strong of a term.....but "misdirected" is certainly not. Please take that term as my substitute].
Instead, for our prognostications on the outlook of the Switch, we should be examining the big picture narrative of the Wii, as well as the big picture narrative of the WiiU, and seeing which one looks more familiar to us in the Switch's 2017. Robust or lackluster 1st and 2nd party software support? Widely lauded and desired, or widely panned and undesired innovation in its form-factor / use-case? Which one of these two previous system's stories most closely matches this one's so far?
I certainly believe (and way more than half of both the industry and the commenting laity seem to agree with me) that by these standards we've got another Wii on our hands, rather than another WiiU - and the sales numbers so far seem to also agree. And also, let's make sure we don't forget this is with a March launch, rather than a holiday or pre-holiday launch window, so if the numbers are "artificial" at all, then they are far more likely "artificially low" than the other way around.
Let's be judging by those measures instead, shall we? And if so? OPTIMISM!!!
Now look, I want the major 3rd party blockbusters too! I want Doom, I want COD, and Battlefront and all the rest! And I think the system even in its infancy is already proving that it's at least powerful enough that it could handle such games just with a modest amount of graphic down-tweaking. So I think we have no reason why we couldn't have them, and by extension, SHOULDN'T. I'm quite, QUITE happy with the system as it stands, but I'm with you in that I'd be waaaaaay happier with it WITH them rather than without them, and I also agree that the major offerings have indeed been pretty sparse to date. I'm with you. I want them. Bring em on!......
......BUT......
To the question of do we -----NEEEEEEED----- them? Does the system NEED them? Does the fate of the system automatically hang in the balance on the matter of their presence and absense? A thousand times ten thousands over, the answer is -------------NNNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!----------- we DON'T! The Switch will live or die with or without them. And right now, the outlook is not only optimistic, but it is ---INSANELY--- optimistic!
We've got enough "sky is falling" around us in the present climes of this world. How's about we stop making too much of the 3rd party business on the Switch.....and dammit.....just enjoy the blasted thing! If you want Battlefront, there's always XBox, or Sony.....or 1000 times better than either of them.....PC!
We'll have plenty to keep us entertained here on the Nintendo. Many of those things are right here on this infograph!
Cheers!
Finna pick dat Switch during the holiday season for dem deals and spare my wallet and maintain a roof over my head. But then again i don't really need a house to get my gaming on with the switch... That list tho is looking pretty beefy and delicious.
@NerdNoiseRadio honestly for me, what killed wii u was a loss of faith in nintendo after how bad wii was toward the end. Wii was so party game focused and had loaddds of shovelware on it that by the end of it's life cycle I was very jaded by Nintendo, and when they marketted the wii u as a "new wii" and made it even more party game and shovelware oriented I and a lot of people I know who would otherwise have bought the console were like "nope, nintendo is poop now, time to get a ps4", honestly I remember watching the first switch ad, and before i watching it i was like "yeah not interested at all", but by the end i was excited and hyped. Basically Nintendo showed me that they were returning their focus to gamers like me, not preschoolers and non-gamers.
@Coderie I was the same, the WiiU though to me had some great games but that friggan controller, that even on games like Bayonetta you had to have it on to use a pro controller, which that in itself is so stupid... And the battery is so shocking that it made the pro controller drop to a 3 hour long battery life. I have so many great WiiU games I have barely played because of that damn gamepad.
So I didn't want a Switch or even Zelda, I was adamant this would be the first Zelda I skipped and that this would be the first Ninty system I skip.
Even after that big direct in January (I think it was), I still had no interest, then GAME ran a promo about trading in a PS4 and I actually had a spare PS4 (bought the Batman one then upgraded to a Pro and wanted to keep my Batman one at first) so I thought sod it, I'll get that traded in and get a Siwtch preordered.
Best, decision, ever. I am never off it, it is now my main system, I've actually annoyed a lot of mates on the PS4 as I haven't touched it in months and BOTW may well be the best game I've ever played in my 30 years on this planet.
They have wowed me every month and the way the rest of the year is shaping up, this is IMO fast becoming the best Ninty machine ever.
@Moneyjaypr7 Sure the Wii U had ports but they weren't years old(most of them were less than a year if not 6 months old) and they were top quality and in some cases the definitive version, e.g. Deus Ex and NFS: Most Wanted.
If you want to talk about years old ports, then the Switch is getting Rocket League which is 2 years old and Skyrim which is 6 years old. Yes, 6 years old.
It's not just them though. There's much more, Sine Mora EX; 5 years old, Rayman Legends; 4 years old, Street Fighter 2; 9 years old.
That is one hell of a first party lineup for the systems first year. You hardly ever see this many must have titles the first year, gotta give Nintendo credit for that.
It's just very unfortunate that they lack major 3rd party support. It makes this list look pretty sparse to be honest. Imagine that infograph alongside all the same (or at least an equal amount of) 3rd party games as PS4/XBONE.
EDIT: tl;dr: Seeing no 3rd-party games just yet is a good sign, as it could mean that with increasing success of the platform they focus on new and unique games for the Switch rather than scaled-down ports of existing mainline-franchise games, which could be produced faster, but which nobody wants really...
Strangely I only just realized that seeing little 3rd-party support AT THIS TIME can also be viewed as reassuring. Why?
Firstly let me reiterate that it is understandable that the big blockbuster-producing companies have taken a waiting stance on the Switch, because their Wii U efforts didn't pay off and no-one knew for a long time what the NX was going to be really (features? power?), much less if it could be a success.
Producing a new game for any platform - especially so-called AAA games - or even only porting them to a new and unknown system with very unique properties, can take much more than just a couple of months, so I cannot see how I could blame the 3rd parties not being there for the first few laps around the course.
But if the Switch continues to be successful, they cannot afford leaving the system out I believe. They'll want to have their slice of the cake either way. And this leads me to the point I'm trying to make:
Most would not have invested anything in individual games for the Switch (for being understandably cautious and probably because there has been little time to assess the system really), and given the graphic fidelity of other blockbuster titles out there would probably have their doubts how well they could make them run on the Switch hardware, especially undocked. I realized that I really don't need scaled-down ports of the CoDs and Assassin's Creeds out there, as for their success they really rely heavily on awesome graphics, less on awesome gameplay (in many cases). If I want to play those games, I would actually prefer to play them on other platforms, One X has piqued my interest for that (otherwise PC), so I can actually enjoy what makes them great.
I think the route that the big publishers will take (and in my opinion also should take) once the install-base is too big for them to ignore, is producing fresh games and individual spin-offs of their franchises, specifically catered to this very special hardware, not only in terms of graphics but also gameplay-wise. That way we'll get not only more games, but also games unique to Switch. I think it's win-win. Core gamers most likely have another console or a PC to play the graphics powerhouses on anyway, and those who don't are probably not interested in those kinds of games anyway, or don't just care ENOUGH (otherwise they would already have a platform to play them on).
So yes, the way I see it the big publishers could at this time only offer watered-down versions of existing games, which nobody wants anyway, so it's a good sign that they do not try to go down that easy road with quick ports no one would ultimately buy, which in turn could discourage them. But the way interest in the Switch develops they're probably already thinking hard what they could do with this specific hardware to profit from its prospective success, too (we keep hearing from all directions how the developers love the Switch and its concept...). I for one am exited to see what they will come up with in the future, and I have no doubt that the games WILL come. If it's individual entries it's all for the better. There's enough ways to play the mainline games of those publishers already, so it's good if they focus on something else.
@JunkRabbit
Well said my scrapyard lepus friend Thankfully Nintendo will have learnt from their experience from the Capcom 5
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
So what if Switch get old ports ??
Number of year doesn't matter. It just Only Number.
Will it affect to your gaming appetite ??
You want ONLY Fresh From Oven ??
Geez...
If there is a chance for FF X/X-2 HD Remaster/ FF XII The Zodiac Age/ some Ports or Remastered games appear on Switch, I Will DEFINETELY BUY Again for Switch !
I will NOT REGRET at all to spend same games Again as long I can play on Switch.
I have bought Lego City Undercover Switch, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, those are ported from Wii U and I don't Regret at all !
Where is your support for Nintendo ?
I don't think you like Nintendo games so much. A lot hate of this or that with nonsense excuses.
Hm....
@JunkRabbit
Wow, very deep explanation about Gaming Business.
If I want to be honest, I still don't really like ps4 for notorious image brand but I do like these certain appropriate games on ps4 so far :
1.Earthlock: Festival of Magic
2.Overcooked: Gourmet Edition
3. FF X/X-2 HD Remaster
4. Portal Knights
5. World of Final Fantasy
6. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 HD Remix
7. FF XII The Zodiac Age
Just only 7 so far. But I don't think I really want to use ps4 so much, though I owned the games first but still haven't ps4 yet. After I heard the "Dirty" tricks from Sony to prevent certain game developers to NOT make their games for Switch, I feel sour now about Sony and ps4
I do like those ps4 games on list above, but I prefer play them on Switch if there is a chance for ports from those publishers. If those 7 ps4 titles Ultimately already on Switch in Physical form (I am physical games collector too), I will definetely Abandoned my ps4 (if I owned) completely, perhaps I will change the ps4 into BluRay player only, no gaming at all, all my ps4 games will be stored inside box, not for play anymore. Continue those games on Switch.
So, back to topic. Do you think it's a good sign for Nintendo to get some "Surprising" 3rd party games such as FF XII, FF XV, FF X/X-2, Kingdom Hearts any series, etc considering from last speech from SquareEnix, they will consider their games for Switch. I hope they Can port their game from ps4 to Switch, prove their promise to support Switch, not backstabbing like Capcom for Monster Hunter World. I'm afraid if Sony want sabotage Nintendo by bullying 3rd party developers to NOT port their games for Nintendo.
At this rate, Sony is much like Lady Tremaine/ Cinderella Stepmother that jealous with Nintendo success (Cinderella's beauty & kindness).
Ah, sorry if I talked too much.
@Ralek85 Oh, it was mainly because I didn't spend much time checking ARMS out before E3. I didn't feel fully informed, and as such was still very curious about it. Ultimately, the gameplay just didn't click with me, and I found it a bit boring to watch as well. I might try it on a sale sometime, but for now I'm just not that into it
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Has your bizarre cheerleading of Wii U at the expense of the Switch really reached the extreme that you're pretending the Wii U had a good first year? A year that Nintendo apologised for, and where the machine went a whole 6 months without a first-party game, and 9 months without a good first-party game? You might want to step back before you actually go through the looking glass....
@Anti-Matter
I wouldn't blow those rumors out of proportion. Capcom will have had their own resons for their decision not to bring MHXX (neither 3DS nor Switch version) to the West for the time being. I think it is unlikely that Sony even would offer a sum to outshine potential profits from sales outside Japan. And MHW is apparently relying on a certain graphics fidelity again, which may be difficult to pull off on Switch in any convincing way. I'm not saying that I am not disappointed, because I had really been looking forward to MH on Switch myself, but then again, who says that it is NEVER going to happen?
Sure, there may have been some sort of exclusive deal (timed exclusive perhaps), everybody does that and we're happy if Nintendo does (so don't blame others...), but suppose it is a one-year exclusive, which is not so unusual, Capcom may just push a decision to a later date (or maybe they just think that by that time it's just too late for something like an updated Generations). I still believe that as the install-base grows the publishers will think twice about their strategies. Capcom might still realize that MHXX is already translated at least 50% (Generations) if not more, so it should be possible to get the thing to the West with little effort. I choose to be cautiously optimistic.
Beyond Capcom and MH: in my post I talked mainly about the absence of current generation ports. Ports of past generations the Switch could probably easily handle, and I say bring them on. The more the merrier, and I am a big fan of revisiting fond memories with updated graphics. But when all is said and done it's a business decision: Do the prospected profits justify the effort involved? And consider if you want a careful port with additional features like HD Rumble and so forth, or just an identical version as on other systems? I'd say that most would only buy the former, but this again would require so much more effort, so I wouldn't get my hopes up too much, because the number of people who would purchase or re-purchase those versions would be relatively small. That's what I would think at least.
By the way, I don't have the first clue about the gaming business per se. To me that realization and how I thought it through was all just common sense...
It would be a good year for any console, but considering that this is just the very first year for the Switch one can say this is great. Best first year of a console in a very long time imho
@Aaron09
They most likely mean the backlog on other systems such as:
WiiU
XBox 1
PS4
3DS
@Spoony_Tech
From my research the game is 8 to 9 hours for a first time through for someone who is not amazing at Metroid. Speedrunners get it in 2 to 4. This is not a long game and not worth $40 to me. The game mechanics look great. They should have just made a new one with all the stuff they did to mic it up.
@Anti-Matter wow. Did Nintendo bully 3rd parties in the early 90s.
@Wolfgabe That's interesting. I haven't heard rumors about Sony paying for MH:W, but I believe it. With Monster Hunter, it's important to remember that western audiences are a far second to Japan players. it's a system seller, and Nintendo has been cleaning up since they (miraculously) stole the series from Sony. Sony is desperate to increase their user base in Japan (from what I've read), so I believe they would go this far.
All that being said, I think Capcom would be shooting themselves in the foot by moving the main series off Nintendo platforms. It's such a great fit of hardware and software. I beleive that MH:W is a side-project to bridge the gap for western audiences before the movie comes out and to boost Sony's user-base in Japan.
But I was wrong about Trump getting elected so don't trust me.
@Anti-Matter "At this rate, Sony is much like Lady Tremaine/ Cinderella Stepmother that jealous with Nintendo success (Cinderella's beauty & kindness)"
What are you smoking
Here's the stuff I think I'll be getting :
1. 2017.06.20 Cave Story
3. 2017.06.30 Zelda BOTW (DLC) The Master of Trials
5. 2017.07.14 The Binding of Isaac (got that one already actually)
16. 2017.??.?? Hollow Knight
35. 2017.??.?? The Escapists 2
41. 2017.??.?? Overcooked: Special Edition
49. 2017.??.?? Steep
Thanks to the people who posted complete lists !
Idk why people complain about a "lack of games". I'm having trouble getting through the games I already own to make time for new ones...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Hey your right about ports coming to Switch late. However, your in some serious denial if you think Wii U's first year is better than Switch. Wii U's first year was absolutely horrible. Most of the games you listed were Day 1 and after that, it was a long and boring time waiting for the next title. I don't know how you can even compare the two when for Switch I have had a game to buy every month. And I'm only talking about retail. The indie scene on Switch has also been awesome
@Blizzia Oh okay, I thought I might have missed something during E3 ^^ I gotta say that initially I wasn't into it as well, actually I pretty much ignored it right away after it become obvious that it was a "fighting game". It's alot of fun to play though, it's really more about reading and predicting your enemy, while keeping cool and getting your own timing right, then about complex input sequences or anything like that, which really turned me off of other fighting games for two decades now.
The party mode is also really cool, as it does not just look slick, but it allows for some really relaxed played thanks to alternating between intense 1-on-1 battles, with more goofy modes like team-battle, "coop"-boss-battles, volleyball and such, with very different skill ceilings.
So even if you are not that great at the game, you can make progress and have some fun. You might screw up in most 1-on-1s, but that's alright because rounds are rather short and within minutes, you will be fighting side by side with the person who just beat the crap out of you in friendly contest
@Joytendo22 A most* comprehensive list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games (hint, click to order by release date).
@UK-Nintendo
Hey, I don't smoking you know.
I hate smoker.
But I think I felt something like on Cinderella story on gaming industry.
That case was one example.
@invictus4000 Yes! I'm super stoked!
So Skyrim for Christmas? I was hoping for an earlier release in that, but I will definitely take Mario instead!
Pretty great lineup, all things considered. I'll be buying at least one game for a Nintendo system every month for the rest of this year.
Anyone else going to shamelessly play the Japanese release of MHXX on Switch, despite a complete lack of Japanese reading skill? I figure I smash through all of the dialog anyway, and I'm PRETTY SURE that every monster is still weak to a great sword to the face.
But when does runner 3 come out?
@JaxonH I might be joining you on the import also. Might just grab it off the Japaneese eShop.
@Anti-Matter @UK-Nintendo
"Hey, I don't smoking you know. I hate smoker"
Lol lol you crack me up sometimes
@Octorok385
Looks like quite a few of us will be importing MHXX (thank goodness for region free, it really saved our butts here). Ya, I plan on getting the fan translation patch for the JP 3DS version of MHXX on 3DS, and using that for a reference, and Arekkz and Gaijin Hunter promised tutorials, and it isn't that hard a game to play-off quests are color coded and once on the hunt, items show a visual icon and English letter for button to press, focus gage will say MAX in English... It's totally doable.
So ya, catch us in the MHXX forum when the game releases. Can share tips and help each other with any text issues we're unsure of.
@zionich
Bet. I'll look for you in the forum!
Right now my top 3 games that I own and consider "AAA" titles are: BotW, MK8D, Arms. Day 1 purchases are: Spla2oon, Sonic Mania, Odyessy, NBA2k18, Rocket League, Lego MSH 2, Rayman DE. I might pick up Skyrim (never played it) and Mario+Rabbids. I'm just now really getting into some anime so fingers crossed that the new DBZ fighting game makes it to switch. Also, (in my dreams) a MvC Anthology/Collection and/or MvC:I. I picked up USF2 day 1 and i knew what i was getting (big SF fan) but man even after tempered expectations and getting over the price point I still feel letdown. Oh well, i have injustice 2 on the xb. Now thats how you do a fighing game.
Well there could be more games, of course, but I'm hoping a few indie titles will fill the void.
From that info graphic, these games are interesting for me:
ARMS (already have it)
Splatoon 2 (must-have)
NBA2k18 (maybe)
FIFA 18 (not sure)
Super Mario Odyssey (of course I'll buy it)
Xenoblade Chronicles (not that excited about the fact that it follows XC1 instead of XCX, but I'll probably buy it anyway)
Rocket League (got it on Steam, not a big fan, but it's a perfect fit for the Switch)
Skyrim (got it on Steam and barely touched it, proper motion controls would be enough though to buy it on Switch)
In many of those cases where I'm unsure it'll also depend on the price. If Bethesda should ask for the full price (50-60€), I probably won't buy it. But for 20-30€ I might think about it.
@legendwaker
That certainly makes this wee Jimmy Krankie. 😤
😉
Pleased with the quality and duration (amount of play time) I'll get from those and current games.
" ... and what games are you excited about that didn't make it into the infographic?"
Stawdew Valley
Monopoly
Farming Simulator
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Dude, you got destroyed. Lol
Really exciting list both Switch and 3DS. Of course the Switch line up is much better, but I'm still glad that the 3DS is still being supported. (Unlike Wii U) 3DS has really been my favorite Nintendo handheld of all time. I'll truly miss it once Nintendo stops supporting it.
@Moneyjaypr7 You're so wrong. No, nearly all the games didn't release on day 1.
~ Pikmin 3
~ Super Mario 3D World
~ The Wonderful 101
~ Rayman Legends
~ Lego City Undercover
~ Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
~ Wii Fit U
~ Deus Ex: Human Revolution — Director's Cut
~ NES Remix
~ Sonic Lost World
None of those released on day 1 and I could name another 10 easily.
I said I wouldn't name indie games released in the 1st year on Wii U because it would take too long. A lot of the indie games on Switch are Wii U ports and in some cases, Wii ports.
But to name a few of the great indie games released in the 1st year were: Runner2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, Trine 2, Mighty Switch Force!: Hyper Drive Edition, Zen Pinball 2, Toki Tori, Toki Tori 2, CastleStorm, Mighty Switch Force! 2, The Cave, Nano Assault Neo.
@MrGamerClock64 What a stupid comment and lol you're wrong.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Keep worshipping a dead console.
It seems to me like some people on this site (not gonna name names) just like to whine for the sake of whining. We have a brilliant first year here on Switch, not counting the numerous quality indie titles and people still find reasons to complain? I'll never understand it.
Disgaea 5 and Splatoon 2 on Switch are amazing and just having both of them will make my purchase worth it for hours on end. And thats not even considering a Pokemon main series and Kirby to look forward to next year.
The only titles I'm jealous about on other systems right now is Anthem on Xbone and Spiderman on PS4 - but I its not like they're multiplat titles, so I can get over them soon enough.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah your right. Still no way shape or form is Switch having a worse year 1 than Wii U my friend. The lonely months were so bad.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
So What's On Earth Wrong with Wii U ports ??
Are they a "SIN" for your gaming area ??
Get Real !!
I Love my Wii U too but now I seldom play it due to a lot of activities or something else, but still play my Wii or Wii U games on my Wii U.
I also HAVE Switch games from Wii U ports as well and I will enjoy them on moveable Nintendo Switch.
There is NOTHING WRONG to buy a lot of Nintendo machines and paired together. With all those Nintendo machines, I can taste all Nintendo gaming from Old to New generation.
Don't say that's not important to you or Wii U still did better than any Nintendo consoles. I mean, Geez....
@ThatNyteDaez
I think some people here really really want 20 - 30 AAA 3rd party games every months. Their expectation were so Delusive...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
~ Pikmin 3 was delayed but when it finally released was excellent
~ Super Mario 3D World was great
~ The Wonderful 101 was okay
~ Rayman Legends was great however delayed due to Wii U not selling well. Went from exclusive to multi platform
~ Lego City Undercover great
~ Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate didn't play it
~ Wii Fit U really????
~ Deus Ex: Human Revolution — Director's Cut great port but $20 more than the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions released on the same day
~ NES Remix awesome
~ Sonic Lost World was okay
@Moneyjaypr7 Yes there were gaps in the Wii U's 1st year. But I'd argue that Switch is still waiting for its first killer game. That'll be Super Mario Odyssey. Zelda: BOTW and MK8D are Wii U games.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Keep dreaming for something Unreal and Delusive.
Get to be Real, please !
Your Wii U will Never got any new games Again !
@MrGawain You can be sure Nintendo will introduce some kind of bundle for Xmas with Mario. As for Xenoblade, X came out around the same time, so I guess it sold enough at that time to do the same with 2.
@Anti-Matter Your comments give me headaches.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Oh give it a rest with the "these are Wii U games" malarky! Whilst they began there, they are as much Switch games now as they are Wii U games. The only difference is that one contains additional content and tweaks and both can be played portably on the Switch.
The fact of the matter is some people want to play both titles on a console that can be taken anywhere as well as having a potential future. Due to this both are still deemed "killer apps" for the system; even more so for those that skipped the Wii U entirely.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE but I'd also add the switch has only been on the market for 3 months dude. We're Wii U didn't have a killer game until super Mario 3D world. Pikmin 3 and wonderful 101 were not killer games n definitely not system sellers. Matter fact Wii U didn't have a system selling game (and even that couldn't sell them) until Mario Kart 8.
@Ralek85 One of my biggest gripes with the game was the motion controls. It plays beautifully with them, but I hate motion controls so much. 99% of the time I play my Switch in handheld mode anyway. Any game requiring me to play skillfully vs real people forces me into handheld mode because I play so horribly in any other mode xD I tried out the non-motion control mode and it was too stiff and hard to control with the button mapping layout.
@Moneyjaypr7 Ya, Pikmin 3 while not a system seller, it was a top class game.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
"Zelda: BOTW and MK8D are Wii U games."
No they're not, the best versions are on Switch and they're the versions selling i.e. that are selling the machine. Nobody (apart from you and about 7 people) cares about the Wii U.
"Pikmin 3"
Pikmin 2.5 to paraphrase.
"~ Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate....Deus Ex: Human Revolution — Director's Cut"
Port from another machine which doesn't count no matter how improved it is
"Wii Fit U....Sonic Lost World"
Oh, sorry. I thought you were serious. Now I realise this is all a surreal wind up.
@FX102A Tough, they are Wii U games. You can't deny that. They started life on Wii U and released on Wii U. Zelda: BOTW could have released last year on Wii U but because Switch had nothing it was delayed. And then another bare minimum effort in MK8D released a month later.
@electrolite77 There's no Wii U's to sell. Nintendo stopped production, they hadn't advertised a game for 2 years. Hadn't seen an advert for the Wii U since launch. Nintendo did zero promotion of the Wii U version of Zelda: BOTW. Wouldn't even give it a Collector's Edition. Their last game and a masterpiece. Classy way to treat Wii U owners. Then again, it shouldn't be a surprise, they've treated us disgracefully.
Minecraft Realms?
I only heard about Minecraft - Switch Edition and Minecraft: Story Mode - The Complete Adventure.
What is Minecraft Realms?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah great game but has nothing to do with this whole topic we have been talking about. Look I don't think theres anything wrong with you not wanting a Switch. Thats your decision and maybe its not for you. But your delusions of Wii U having a better year one is just crazy dude. You could argue Wii U had some better games than Switch's year one games that came out so far this year. But theres no way you could ever say that the whole year 1 of Wii U is better. The system, failed for many reasons and a big reason was a very very horrible start. No games. And that trend continued for a long time. On day one yeah Wii U had way more titles than Switch. But man by November this year which will be only 8 months the Switch will be on the market, Switch will be blowing away Wii U on titles. Also Zelda is a system seller regardless it coming out on both systems day one. It sold better on Switch that had way less consoles on the market than wii u. Thats a system seller my friend especially since it was the most quality launch title. Are you telling me people bought switch's for 1/2 switch, super bomber man, just dance, or skylanders? No they bought the switch for Zelda which = system seller
@Anti-Matter my Nintendo 64 doesn't get games but I still love it. Great console. So if a newer console comes out do I forget about my old consoles and the games.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Try harder! Everyone here knows you are trying to troll, I even remember when you had 2 alt accounts and were trolling the comment section with those.
@Kylo_Ren You absolute LIAR. I'm reporting that comment. I've never had an alternative account. I'd ask for proof but you won't provide any because there is none. Having a different view doesn't make someone a troll.
@UK-Nintendo
Was that your sarcastic comment ?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Oh really?
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/03/zelda_breath_of_the_wild_player_believes_theyve_found_a_lovely_satoru_iwata_tribute#comment3868040
Who's the liar now?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Headache ?
Liar...
@Kylo_Ren Anyone with half a brain knows that wasn't me. I reported those people.
@Anti-Matter Ya, not being bad and I appreciate English isn't your first language but a lot of the time it's hard to make out what you're saying.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE So you know throwing insults know, after you said that Anti-Matter's comments give you heaadaches. I mean considering how you act on the boards I wouldn't be so sure you wouldn't do something like that.
@Anti-Matter It's ok don't let people like that get to you, be happy and never give them the time of day.
I load the comments, and 54 of the 241 of them disappear. I see SLIGEACH_EIRE is hijacking the thread again.
Black Friday is the day!
@PanurgeJr Yeah, no idea why so many feed him to be honest
Aside from Super Mario Odyssey, there remains not much of interest for me with the Switch. I hoped this E3 would change that, but it didn't. Pokemon moving to the Switch is pretty exciting, but that's at least a year out in the future.
BTW, I can understand where SLIGEACH_EIRE is coming from. Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8 are Wii U games. They were built from the ground up with the Wii U in mind. It's just like how I will always consider Twilight Princess to be a GCN game, and not a Wii game. The Wii's Zelda was Skyward Sword.
I don't fault Nintendo for making Breath of the Wild a dual release title. I just can't consider Breath of the Wild a Switch game. I bought it on the Wii U and currently have no need for a Switch.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Of course they didn't make any, they wouldn't have been able to sell them. There was enough evidence to know it was a flop by the end of 2013-the end of its first year. And while a lot of the games on it may be (by Nintendo's standards) poor at least they kept supporting it to a degree. They could have ditched it like the Saturn, original Xbox and Vita got ditched. Instead they kept it ticking over for probably 3 years longer than they really wanted to.
As for being treated disgracefully, it depends what you expected. I bought mine at the end of 2013 to play Nintendo games in HD and it did a reasonable job of that. I had a PS3 (then later a PS4 and Xbox) to play other games on.
If you bought it because you saw the launch line-up, heard Nintendo's promises and believed this was the time when they were going to get Western third-party support, yeah you were had. History has shown that's unlikely, and yet there still seem to be some people who seem to be expecting such games on Switch, when it should be clear that it isn't a priority for Nintendo or anybody else in the industry.
Either way, it was that first year that doomed it. Huge droughts, delayed Nintendo games with their best efforts on 3DS, third-party support dropping away, the Gamepad completely failing as a USP.
@Kylo_Ren those accounts were not his
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Oh I won't deny they are Wii U games. I also will not deny that they are also both Switch games. Both are technically now multiplatform titles; its just both choices are Nintendo platforms. MK8 was originally a Wii U title but now its Deluxe variation is a Switch title. BotW started as a Wii U title (in the same way Starfox Adventures was originally an N64 title) but circumstances saw that change.
Vanquish was originally developed on the PS3 yet its multiplatform. The majority of 3rd party titles last generation were developed on the X360 hardware yet they are classified as multiplatform, not X360 titles.
Its a pretty varied list. There seems to be at least one game to appeal to someone but if you ONLY like one game genre, something like shooters with Splatoon, then you're pretty SOL.
Theres variety but not much variety within the variety. If you like shooty games you've got one but the game isnt garunteed to be infinitely fun and its all thats there. No Destiny, no Overwatch, nothing to give a change of pace.
Who knows though. Much like ARMS and Pokken are Nintendo's answer to the fighting game scene, they may have more answers to the genre. It would be kind of wild to find out that Retro Studios has been working on a online multiplayer shooter this whole time
@NerdNoiseRadio "(The Switch is) at least powerful enough that it could handle such games just with a modest amount of graphic down-tweaking."
I completely agree, and this observation is one of the reasons my enthusiasm for AAA third party developers is less than it could be. As systems grow more powerful they seem intent on using that power for everything but gameplay. Consider The Last of Us. Were Naughty Dog a Nintendo studio, they could have made the game for Wii, and while the visuals would not have come close to what they were on PS3 or would become on PS4, it would have played exactly the same. Nothing about the gameplay was beyond Wii, and gameplay is the only thing required for a game. Everything else is optional: the number of polygons in character models, the detail of shaders and textures, draw distance (to a degree), et cetera and cetera. They make the game look better, but in most cases that's about it. If developers don't wish to produce a game on Switch with objectively lower quality visuals, whether from a desire not to spend additional money to do so or for reasons of vanity, so be it, but let us note that that is all they are doing when they don't bring their game to Switch. It is not because it's impossible. It is most certainly possible.
Only with Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2 and Splatoon 2 they make such a good year. Nice year for Switch, but also a surprisingly good one for 3ds!
@NerdNoiseRadio That was an incredibly well articulated read. Thank you. I certainly didn't buy my switch for 3rd party support and I've all but dropped my ps4pro impulse purchases. Since switch I have 15 games on it. And all the rest of my spare cash will be flooding into Nintendo coffers because that's the way I WANT it. Sorry Sony, I kind of realise now that 4K or prettier pixels simply are not making me happy. I want my games with soul.
Great looking lineup, which is why I'm playing more switch than XB1 or 3DS these days.
I'm just waiting for this game:
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/12/insane_shooter_mani_yugi_tokoyo_could_be_headed_to_new_3ds_and_nintendo_switch
@NerdNoiseRadio good post.
@PanurgeJ There's nothing you say here that I disagree with at all, but I would want to emphasize that all things being equal, better graphics are always better than lesser graphics. And I don't know that you disagree with that either. But I just wanted to make sure that I was clear on where I was on the matter.
I guess I find myself resistant to both the following sentiments in about equal measure, and find myself stuck squarely between them: 1) "graphics are everything", and b) "graphics are nothing". I feel that the former is "papa bear's bed" - too hard, while the latter is "mama bear's bed" - too soft. Good graphics don't make a bad game good, and bad graphics don't make a good game bad. Granted. But I also believe that good graphics make a good game better, bad graphics make a bad game worse, and if a game is squarely on the fence, then sometimes graphics can be the tie breaker.
Now, I know that may sound strange coming from someone who just so emphatically defended the Switch - and indeed, the Switch is easily my favorite console, easily my favorite handheld, and maybe even my preferred platform over PC (maybe). And like you, other than a small collection of used games between eBay and at thrift stores, from March 3rd all the way up to just yesterday, believe it or not, 100% of my free money that went towards new games went to Switch. 100%. I'm sitting at about 20 games myself. I broke that streak last night, but with what? A quartet of 3DS digital downloads, so still Nintendo, and still on the lower end of the graphics spectrum. In fact, of all the systems still active today, the 3DS is at the VERY bottom. So, clearly, I can look past the graphics and see great games that are quite desirous. This is me living out "graphics aren't everything".
But on the other hand, I do still plan to replace my XB1/PS4 with an XB1X/PS4Pro at tax time as well as add a second GTX1070 graphics card to my gaming PC, which already is more powerful than XB1X, but I want it to be way more powerful. So, I do prize great graphics and little details, and seek out the most premier iterations whenever feasible. In this way, I'm living out "graphics aren't nothing".
Now, how do I deal with the tension? Here's how: Between the raw power and utter customizability of the PC on the one hand, and the total freedom, flexibility, paradigmatic revolutionary use case and dynamism of the Switch on the other, outside of a very few, VERY RARE special circumstances, I will never buy another game on the PS4 or XB1 again that I could get on either PC and/or Switch instead. There's just no value to those ports at all when they're visually outperformed by the PC, and when they're complete non-starters against the Switch's get up and go.
Don't get me wrong, I will still prize the "traditional consoles" for their exclusives, their freebies, their nice, tight, cohesive UIs and form factors, as well as their nice cross swaths of power gaming, casual gaming, and multimedia. And wanting the best form of them I can get (living out the "all else equal, better graphics are always better than lesser graphics" thing), then I find the 1X and Pro justifiable. But even with the more premier versions of the consoles, other than having a modest collection of titles around on all platforms just for comparison purposes, that rule of "no games on PS/XB otherwise available on PC and/or Switch" will still stand.
And when a game only exists on the traditional consoles, but exists on both.....well, 1X over Pro always....doy! In fact, in light of my plans to buy the upgraded consoles, I'm going to start favoring the XB1 versions over the PS4 version even now, even though when played on the standard hardware, they are admittedly better on the PlayStation, and in the very short term, such a move would equate to me losing out a bit. It's worth it for the long term.
And at long last, this all comes home: when it comes down to PC vs Switch ports of games available on both systems: if it's a game I REALLY like, then I may just buy it for both platforms and that's problem solved. But assuming it's a game available on both, but I'm only buying one: then it'll depend on whether the premier visuals and/or precise KBM controls are more precious to the title, or whether the ability to take it with me is more precious. Whichever aspect wins will be the version I buy - a decision I'll have to make on a case by case, though in general, other than to support the AAAs on Switch thing, AAAs I'd probably largely save for PC - especially if there's a lot of online stuff going on, where smaller, lighter games (i.e. Most indie games), I'll favor on Switch. But I'm sure that sometimes I'll break from that and do the opposite on both sides of that coin.
But again, we may even be on the same page here too. There may be no disagreement between us at all. But I didn't want anyone thinking that I was either too fixated on, nor too dismissive of graphics. Both of those positions bother me.
Cheers!
@WiltonRoots Thanks!
I've been talking for a long time of either starting a second blog besides Nerd Noise Radio, or else creating a new segment on that blog called "The Long Answer", where I can post my more comprehensive, more fully fleshed out (but totally "tl;dr") responses as a blog. Then instead of leaving these huge "chapter and verse" replies in comments sections and on FB and whatnot, I can gradually work on honing my underdeveloped abilities at writing brief, simplified responses ("the short answer"), while linking people back to the blog if they want my full thoughts ("the long answer").
Anyway, I'm toying around with that. I need to learn how to write short anyway. It seems that my responses are always either "monosyllabic caveman grunts", or else, the aforementioned "chapter and verse".
Cheers!
@KayOL78 Thank you very much for the compliment!
As far as where you stand on the matter of the Switch and the Pro, and all that, I'll say I halfway agree with you, and that where I disagree with you is pretty unlikely to cause any kind of real dissension between us.
Here's where we're alike: like you (or at least seemingly like you), the Switch is easily my favorite console, easily my favorite handheld (since it's both), easily my favorite tabletop (since there really hasn't been another of those since all the way back to the Vectrex as far as I'm aware), and maaaaaybe even my preferred platform over the PC (that one I'm going to leave as a maybe as I think the PC is AWESOME!) And like you, it wasn't til yesterday that I broke the streak started all the way back on March 3rd, where 100% of my free money that went to brand new games all went to Switch - I broke that streak with some 3DS digital download games. You and I, we see the absolute magic in the Switch, think it's capable enough graphically, but see past the graphics as the making or breaking point. In all these ways, you and I are in complete agreement.
However, where we might differ is that just because I wholeheartedly embrace the notion of "graphics are not everything" doesn't mean I move from there onto the notion "graphics are nothing". Far from it! I have a PC that's more powerful even in its present state than XB1X, and I intend as soon as possible to make it even more powerful so that it unquestionably dominates the surprisingly comparable 1X. And yet, I still plan at tax time to replace my existing PS4 and XB1 with their more powerful, more premier upgraded iterations. I also spend as much of my Switch playing time as is feasible in docked mode, mostly for the enhanced visuals over handheld mode. So I certainly still prize my graphics when I can.
But I will say this: if a game exists on PS4/XB1 that also exists either on the PC or on the Switch, then I will not buy it on PS4/XB1, choosing instead to go for either the pinnacle of visuals and customizability found only in the PC when raw power or precision interfaces (KBM) are needed, or choosing to go for the Switch version when they're not, because the "go anywhere" flexibility and dynamism of the Switch is so very unique, precious, powerful, and completely distinctive. Or heck, maybe I'll just buy both versions and call it a night.
In either case, graphics are neither everything nor are they nothing, and I want to live in that middle space between. But through it all, the Switch is ever the darling of the bunch, and the one where my heart, time - and money are going most - like you!
Cheers!
@Blizzia Actually, I'm not at home right now, hence so far, I've only played in handheld mode to be honest.
I agree, that the button layout is not perfect, I would have prefered block move to "L" and 'switch target" move to "R" (or vice versa) with rush then being mapped to A/B. That would be pretty much perfect imho, as you don't punch while blocking or switching target, hence you can take the finger off of ZR and ZL while you can activate rush with A/B with your fingers ALREADY on ZR and ZL to spam punches.
The only issue then left would be the fact, that you can't use the right stick to curve your right punch, but I think that's really not that a big deal.
So yeah, not a fan of using the stick 'button' to block and of having to let go of the stick to switch^^ targets. It's by no means a deal breaker though, at least to me. I'm a bit surprised they went for this less than ideal setup, even though the setup I just described - not to humble here - is superior and basically a non-brainer.
I'll say this tohugh, the first 2-3 hours, I really performed poorly. Initially, I didn't even realize I could punch using ZR and ZL. Once I got the hang of the mechanics and realized I didn't have to use A/B to punch, I got a lot better, and started winning matches, I cleared Grand Prix on level 4 and even got into competitive.
I think I haven't had this much fun with any game even reeking of "fighting" game since I played one of those WWF wrestling games (I can't even remember the name) on the N64 with friends way back when. I guess what I'm saying is that I spend about two decades hating or at least completely ignoring fighting games, and now I don't - well not ARMS anyways.
I get that it is still not for everyone though ... obviously. And even ignoring that, many people won't evne try it (shame there is no proper demo available), or they will grow frustrated by it, before they can really grasp how the game works, or they will stick to "singleplaye", to daunted (or lazy^^) to try online or even couch-play.
Anyways, I'm looking forward to the free updates, hopefully they can pull another Splatoon here. Last but not least, so far I'Ve only really bothered collecting FE amiiboo, but boy ... I want a Min-Min amiibo, or scratch that, I NEED a Min-Min amiibo. I'd be totally tempted buying a whole set of ARMS ones, if they get the poses and the arms^^ right. Min-Min I'd definitely buy no matter what - make it happen Nintendo!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Capcom hasn't move on. The guy that broke the XX name said yesterday that they are making a new MH for Switch.
Also lets just assume they have indeed move on; they will be back when Switch sell like hot cakes because Pokemon and Animal Crossing. You just know they are coming, so your Nintendo Doom in every article is getting old.
@tamantayoshi Compare to first year PS4 and Xbox1 is not bad indeed.
@maruse Great read. Thanks for the link.
@Jessica286 That's true. Still, something is a miss.
I still want some AAA games to come for the Switch since I don't really want to play on my PS4 (or PS3, for that matter). Still, I think games like Skyrim, the blue-soldier-shooter game and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 could make me finally buy a Switch.
I've seen various complaints about droughts and 3rd party support, which, as I remembered, nintendo didn't give out the development kits right away to everyone, only certain companies before the reveal of the system itself, which probably led to many of the 3rd company games not making games right away for it...plus, after the un-successful Wii U, many companies were holding off on the Switch to see if it would sell well or be another flop...after the holiday, we'll see more (hopefully), and E3 doesn't tell every single game that will be released...just a glimpse of ones that will get people and shareholders excited...Sony didn't announce every game coming out this year, Nintendo did the same thing. Don't forget that there are plenty of games that will be released and we didn't even see yet too, and there's no telling what other gems will be released on the E-Shop.
Other than that, I was one that was skeptical about even purchasing a Switch, as Zelda and Mario Odyssey was the only ones that looked interesting to me, but after seeing that Kirby is in development and the previews for Yoshi and Mario And Rabbids, now, it looks like I'll purchase one possibly after the holidays! So, E3 was good to me on nintendo's side!
I wish Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare 2 was on that list.
It's nearly time to buy a switch I think. Held off until there is more games (and I clear my backlog a bit), now I can see 7 that I want - probably more than I'll actually be able to play through!
I have to say I find it very surprising that Skyrim is releasing so late in the year. Plus, I hope they plan to bundle the game with all the DLC or it won't be a purchase for me.
I wonder what happened to the new multi-player Kirby game for 3DS. There was not a word about it at E3. has it been postponed to 2018? Did it move to the Switch? It seems to have dropped off the Earth.
@RatKing64 Do you mean Team Kirby Clash Deluxe? If so, it's out now.
Good thing they are still developing for 3DS! I don't have a switch...
@SLlGEACH_ElRE ahh you are annoying sometimes but yeah whatever.
Anyone who has played Monster Hunter Generations on their 3DS should have no problem playing MHXX in complete Japanese. J/s
@Jessica286 SLIGEACH seems to be a moderator or contributor of some kind, this being the case, and from his tone, I wouldn't be surprised to find he's paid or encouraged to be the 'fly' in anybody's ointment who is trying to garner positivity overall for Switch(despite the fact it's a success and is very likely to go on from strength to strength).
I think xenoverse 2 deserves a mention here.
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