Update 2:
Nintendo UK has issued us with the same statement, below, albeit with the UK customer service number; if you encounter the issue you should visit your region's Nintendo site and find your local details.
A small percentage of consumers playing Wii U may experience error codes (160-0103 and 160-1710) that could affect the ability of the system to function properly. We are investigating this issue now. Until the solution is available, anyone that experiences these error codes can call the Nintendo contact centre at (01753) 483 743 for help and repair.
Update:
Nintendo representative 'Julie' has posted on Miiverse regarding these errors — below is the North American message.
We've contacted Nintendo for comment and will update once a statement is given.
Original Article:
Information is currently surfacing of game and system breaking error codes for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. It is important to note that these same error codes have also appeared prior to the release of the latest Smash entry for Wii U, and are not widespread problems.
Error code 160-0103 is said to be appearing at random for Wii U owners, though some users have mentioned the error occurs after playing the For Glory mode and starting their system up again.
According to Smash players who have encountered the issue, it is allegedly due to a problem with the system memory. One theory claims the error code is caused by the game’s update data, and not the Wii U itself.
The error is apparent with Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, and all other parts of the system will function until Smash or the Data Management page on the Wii U HOME Menu is accessed.
Accessing Data Management will result in error code 160-1710, and from here a series of events can unfold. Reported problems currently include complete Wii U memory wipes, and even bricked systems.
Users who encountered the original error were reportedly advised to format their systems which resulted in the second error code, and then had to send their bricked Wii U to Nintendo for repair.
Take a look at error code 160-0103 in action below, and let us know in the comments if you have been one of the few players to experience the same problem.
Thanks to Jake Hugenroth for the heads up.
[source smashboards.com]
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Has this error been reported with the European version of the game as well?
I uh... For once am glad I have been so swamped with grad school that I've yet to play online. And I won't be anytime soon, not taking chances here.
Well it was a hyped game so its only natural for it to happen.
That said though, I'm worried if Nintendo will slowly end up with other devs making unfinished games and such. Granted its a long way for that to happen for Nintendo but with games like Smash, it only leaves a question of a finished game done right.
I don't intend to play online anyway, so I hope this won't affect me. Nevertheless, I should probably keep my distance until an update is released.
While you're at it, add DPad for movement support on the Pro controllers too! Please! #DPad4Movement
Anyway there was an update on MK8 that fixes the upload videos error along with more system stability.
Damn, looks like I'm avoiding Smash Wii U completely now until it's fixed. Was considering trying out online yesterday but fortunately decided on Mario Kart 8 instead. Playing Smash Wii U at all is not worth the risk of losing everything!
Good thing I don't play "For Glory." I always play for fun with whatever I play anyway.
Wow, that sounds like a bad one. And so soon to Christmas too. Almost no chance of getting your system back in time, and thanks to their unique account system, you can't just go buy one of those cheap 8GB systems and re-download anything by simply entering a username and password.
I think I'll avoid playing this for now.
I posted a comment on an article about Smash a few weeks ago stating my concern that Sakurai's team were still working on the game so close to release. I hope it's not that there wasn't time for this issue to be caught in playtesting and it's been a massive oversight by the team, though I doubt it's an inherent unavoidable mistake. In my opinion this is probably the absolute worst thing the release of a game can do to its players, especially something as prolific and exciting as Smash. Knowing that playing the game can not only wipe your system memory but completely brick your system (already awful) is just horrendous. I'm deeply disheartened to read this news this morning and I hope they can find a fix incredibly soon.
Also to those saying "I'm fine because I only play 'for fun'" or "I don't play online anyway ", you people are a minority. This is a huge issue for the game and for Nintendo, and spare a thought for those sending bricked systems to Nintendo so close to Christmas. And also don't forget to read information like this properly - it does state that this is also happening to players randomly.
Usually, when there is a System Memory issue, it refers to the RAM, not the Hard Drive or Storage Device!
@sillygostly This Smash error appears to be isolated to US gamers right now, but anyone is vulnerable.
The same error code has shown up in the past on a number of occasions with different games and data corruption incidents, and the solution has been to send the system into Nintendo.
Personally, when errors like this occur, I play it safe and wait for Nintendo to patch the game, or the system.
I think I had this glitch, but my data is saved to a hard drive. Everything worked fine but smash randomly stopped working and said there was a problem with my USB storage and gave me an error code. Everything else worked fine. Called Nintendo, they had me delete my smash data (the data management screen didn't lock up for me) and I did, and smash didn't work still. Finally I transferred all my game saves to the console, reformatted the hard drive, and haven't had a problem since. Looks like it corrupted the hard drive's format or something, scary to think what would have happened if it was saved to the system memory.
This is very worrying. I hope they work fast on a solution for this for everyone out there who has encountered that problem. And with Smash of all things...
@SanderEvers Haha nice one mate
Guess I'll just stay offline and stay out of data management until this is resolved...
Eight players free-for-all is superb. I'm loving it, suck for those who doesn't had any real friends and just rely on online play. This is why I don't play online, you either get glitch or get brick. Damn Nintendo, 2 strikes in a row, first the online banned for 136 years glitch and now this brick of a disaster. There's no glory with Super Smash Bros. 4 online now. For shame Nintendo, that's what you should call that mode, For Shame since they ain't giving online players any glory in playing online.
I've played online once or twice, I guess I'll wait for a patch before I go back online.
It's like a Super Smash for Wii U
So... does this only happen after one has played online, or does it happen randomly when someone plays Smash at all? I feel kinda scared to play it now.
My guess is there is a file system issue introduced either by the game, a patch for the game (any yet?) or a specific set of save data - possibly generated by this "For Glory" mode.
Its a little strange, but this could also mess with the data management part of the system (i.e. if a file ends up with a negative size, or incorrectly so big there is no memory to load it or something).
Even if this happens, I wouldn't panic: play what works and hold off until the patch is ready - I'll be shocked if its going to take more than a couple of days.
@TreesenHauser
If what I experienced was the mentioned glitch, which I believe it was (with the differences being that I got a different error code for using an external hard drive, and having access to data management) I had not been online in days and had been using it several hours prior in just a normal 4 player, local smash. So I don't think its related to online play, personally.
@Koz Yikes, thanks for the heads-up. I'm gonna go ahead and hold off from playing it at all until Nintendo addresses and resolves the issue.
HELP! I'm scared!
I guess the Wii U just doesn't have the stability to handle the awesomeness of Smash yet....
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I just got off a For Glory kick. Glad this didn't happen to me. NINTENDO, get on it! Thanks for reporting. Woof!
Don't own Smash yet but this has made me plan on copying my save data to a hard drive or memory stick as a precaution.
It happened to me too ,but I never played for glory, it happened when I tried to play multi man melee (Wich I've played before just fine) I even went to the data management to delete the update but nope did not let me. Hit me with un error code
I kept playing other game modes just fine. Made me think it was just that one but then I got another one on a different game mode... (i forget which one)I just stoped playing altogether and now I'm waiting for some news to come out... waiting.... while the newly bought smash Bros taunts me. ...T.T
Played Smash Wii U once. Didn't experience problems like that since I have no internets access. I have encountered a problem where the Wii U Menu loading screen is frozen when I exit Smash.
BTW, Mine is a Physical US copy.
EDIT: Tried other games, everything's working fine. So it's just Smash. My firmware update is at 5.2.0, so I don't know if it's the update (which I had to update to to play the game...)
I've been smashing online on For Glory mode simce day one. I've already put close to 500 battles online. I've NEVER had any kind of error show up. This isn't gonna stop me from dominating online. I'm guessing it's happening to only a few unfortunates.
I haven't encountered it, but I've barely been able to go online anyway due to constant 118-0513 (it can't be a firewall issue since it actually ends up working if you wait long enough) so maybe my system is trying to save me from this bug?
Interesting. Last night I was having problems getting into For Glory mode a couple of times. First time I'd tried to get on. It worked fine until I went to find a match and then it would just kick me out. I don't recall an error code at all, but eventually it worked fine. I haven't tried to get back on to the game yet though...
Knockout blow!!
What is this, year of the bug? So looks like no smash for me, can't risk losing my xenoblade data
The important thing is that if you receive this error code DO NOT play Smash or access data management until it is resolved and you should be OK. Also, don't fret too much as this seems to be an exceedingly rare error considering the overall amount of hours invested into Smash Wii U in the USA (and abroad).
I've been on the fence about Smash Bros Wii U, having bought and played the 3DS version at launch and feeling that it was just more of the same, albeit shinier and in HD. But last night I caved and pre-ordered the Mario Amiibo bundle from Amazon.
Well now I've just cancelled my order! I know the article says this is a random error, but I'd be gutted if it happened to me and my Wii U bricked all for a game I wasn't dead set on buying in the first place. If Nintendo release official word/an update for this soon then I'll probably reinstate my order, but as it stands, what's the point in buying a game that I won't be playing for fear it'll crash my system?
@Shinnos This is exactly what I predicted would happen. At this point you're probably grounded in your decision to hold off on buying the game. Nintendo will lose sales if they don't fix this really quickly.
No!!!!!! ;_;
Whoa, I havent run into this but that's really not good. They have to fix it ASAP.
Havent really played online much
I don't play games online usually, but Smash Wii U "For Glory" mode it's exactly the exception I'm doing these days O_O;
I think I'll go back to my standard offline gaming, IF my Wii U will work the next time I turn it on, >_>;
All of this reminds me of the time 'L A Noire' was causing problems with PS3 owners.
@Shinnos Although it is the same characters on Wii U, the console version feels a lot more complete. By comparison the 3DS version feels very watered down, lots of classic stages are missing and overall there is a lack of content. I'm glad I got the Wii U version too, if this came out first I wouldn't have been as bothered about getting it on 3DS. It was a smart decision to release the handheld version first.
Also, it's really different to see the action by comparison to the bigger TV version
Hopefully they resolve it before Christmas!
@Artwark I seriously doubt it. There's a pretty stark contrast between an unfinished or broken game, and a few bugs and glitches (bad as they might be). Video games are much more complex than they used to be and there's a lot more code that goes into them nowadays.
As Runnng Wild stated once:
DEATH OR GLORY!!!
Well I am not playing this game again until I get confirmation that this is fixed. Nintendo had better patch this up in an update soon.
What is this? Ubisoft??
Good thing I have this knack of wanting to unlock most everything (including challenges) before trying to play online!
Bad news just in time for the holidays. Yikes. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly. Until then, it's Hyrule Warriors and Mario Kart for me.
Oh so these get replaced? gee, thanks nintendo barf
Nintendo needs to fix this and soon, before the Wii U sales, Smash sales, customer satisfaction and their reputation take a hit they can't recover from.
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Couldn't keep a straight face.
Good job with the game bricking bug in your 'Wii U Savior' Nintendo.
Once the word spreads, you'll be lucky to make mobile games.
Good thing we've still got the New 3DS to pick up the slack.
We just have to wait a few months to play it.
Ig it's a good thing that the only game that can't connect online for me is smash bros for WiiU/3DS
Yikes, this is pretty scary. I haven't had any error codes yet but I guess I'll transfer my save and the update to my external HDD just in case.
I've played a few matches of For Glory mode on a PAL retail copy and nothing out of the ordinary happened. Either way, I'm going to try and avoid using the online mode for a while until a patch floats on by. Not sure about data management though. Maybe that's fine to use.
Okay, looks like I won't be figuring out who wins the current conquest for a while...
Can someone just clarify if this only happens to people unable to play For Glory AT ALL?
Because as I said, last night the first few times I tried to find a match it disconnected me (said something about server error I think) but eventually I managed to get on and play with no problems at all. I just don't want to try and boot the game up again and get this error message if it has affected me. If someone has experienced a similar disconnect and their game works fine, then I'll be a lot more willing to attempt to boot the game up again.
I'm using a download version on an external hard disk. I don't bother with online modes myself so hopefully an update will be out before long. I do wish I had done another backup of my game data, but it sounds like if I'm going to try that I should skip backing up Smash for now!
@NintendoMan94 - The game isnt nearly finished yet. Remeber that 50 things vid? 4 things in that vid still are NOT in the game: tournaments, official tournaments, the Miiverse level, and the ability to share created levels. And they are still working on Mewtwo but thats DLC for later, not part of the actual game.
So yes, the game was rushed out the door as they are STILL working on things that we were told would be in the game. Doesnt surprise me at all there are game breaking bugs, Id be shocked if there werent.
Well, I'll just play Mario Kart 8 and 3D World for the time being until this gets fixed. And if it can't be fixed, then I'll sell the game for some credit.
I love Smash Bros, but I'm not going to risk my Wii U to play it. I have the 3DS version if I need to get my Smash fix. At least there, I can stay offline if I want to avoid any errors.
I am a little bothered by the errors that are popping up in both versions of Smash. Maybe the development of 2 versions at the same time spread the team kinda thin and took away some quality control.
I'd wait with calling out Smash Bros. Wii U until this issue is 100% verified.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=141252136&postcount=65
Haha, smash 3ds, anyone? Lucky for me I packed up my system a week ago cause I'll be traveling. Sorry for the rest of you guys, does suck
well... guess I am not going online for a while then, my Wii U warranty is off so a problem that nintendo caused, I'd have to pay for.
Not very happy about this at all. Oh well, should probably try and finish Windwaker HD while I wait. And of course there's MK8 to keep me busy. But that doesn't give you an excuse Nintendo to take your sweet time with this.
Mines wrapped up under the tree alongside accompanying Amiibo's and the gamecube controller adapter. Nintendo - you have until December 25th to solve this problem (please).
So this sounds like a corrupted save data issue. Is it possible people are turning off their Wii U's during For Glory matches hoping a bad result doesn't get saved to the servers? I could see this becoming a problem if people are turning off, unplugging their systems mid-save.
Can this occur on digital copies? Because if it does...
https://31.media.tumblr.com/1aa20df32268f42359d0f33a4e488954/tumblr_inline_ndthv51Qri1sk4oqq.gif
I played a bunch of For Glory through the weekend and everything is OK. That's lucky. I'll keep away from it now until they release somehing to patch this up.
I think people should calm down a bit This code is relatively common in a lot of games and it seems relatively isolated atm
It must be the Fall Season: Ps4->Driveclub; Xbox1->Master Chief Collection; WiiU->Super Smash Bros
One time I left team for glory and went back in to get a new crew to fight with. When I got to character select screen, my player was blank, my p1 finger was gone, but the screen said ready to fight. When I hit start to go to the next screen, my Wii u froze and made that beeping sound... Scary stuff!
Hmm... well I don't play online much. So I guess I'll be ok.
While exiting a menu, my game made a loud beep noise and was frozen so I had to unplug it..
I will stick to Captain Toad for this weekend then. For these days it will be Bayonetta 2 and Stealth Inc 2.
Guess i'm not playing online for a while, not risking that junk.
If you format the system, Nintendo can restore your eshop account, but what would happen to your Wii Shop account? Can they even bring that back?
I think I might abstain from playing, online or offline, until Nintendo releases another update. As awesome as the game is, it's not worth risking both accounts and the Wii U itself. Good thing I have Omega Ruby to keep me busy.
I haven't come across any error codes yet, but I don't play online at all so that probably helps. It is most likely just a very isolated issue some people are having.
Guess it's good that I never play For Glory.
Solution: don't turn the system off right after playing for glory or just flat out ignore for glory mode until it's fixed. It sounds like the people who experienced the lumiose city bug in X and Y where you had to be in a SPECIFIC spot and shut off at the RIGHT time to cause the save loss.. Probably a bunch of rage quitters who turned off their consoles at the results screen.
This game is incomplete trash. Quite literally. Please do not mistake this for joking because I'm very serious. That's why I haven't bought this shovel ware until they patch it. Also another reason why Brawl and Melee are superior. No one should ever be afraid to play a game because it has bugs that might make the game and system both unplayable. Please debate me on this. No one could possible defend this.
@GTWarrior77 well it's all on Sakurai's team and the Namco team.. Honestly I've had ZERO issues with it and am personally not worried about causing this "issue" because I personally believe it's a problem with people just turning off their systems when they're gonna get a loss recorded.
@TrueWiiMaster Formatting internal memory and deleting your account are two different things AFAIK. Formatting internal memory onli wipes downloaded games and saves, but keeps your account intact, so you can re-download everything. Deleting the account removes everything. At least that is how I think it works...
That said, the thing looks pretty severe and Nintendo needs to step up it's fixing game if they hope to retain their face in all of it. I have my copy on it's way as of now and expect to play it this weekend, so there better be a fix, or a solid workaround for the problem by then.
@Joruus_Cbaoth Uhm, why is it "incomplete trash"? Because of that bug? If I was to call any game "incomplete trash" nowadays it would be either one of the Assasin's Creed ones or Master Chief Collection with it's 20GB multiplayer day-one patch that does not even work.
@Joruus_Cbaoth read both my posts, they make perfect sense just sounds like a bunch of people who turn off their systems when they're trying to upload stats to the servers because they can't stand a loss.
@Kifa Assassins Creed Unity has dat phat 27 fps tho.. If you're lucky haha.
@B3ND3R Next-generation gaming, obviously impossible on Wii U...
@Joruus_Cbaoth Baiters gonna bait.
But hey, I'll nibble. It's a single (albeit potentially devastating) bug in an overall complete, well-polished and highly enjoyable game. How exactly do you consider Melee or Brawl better? (Content-wise I mean, not purely for the lack of having a potentially system-bricking bug.)
You also state that you have not yet bought this game, so I currently regard you as Francis.
Hope it's fixed for Crimbo.
If memory serves, didn't Brawl do something like this to Wii systems?
I hope if I get this Nintendo will fix my wiiu for free(I got it back at 2012 christmas)
@Artwark The issue surrounding Smash on both the 3DS and Wii U seems to revolve around the online multiplayer aspect of the game. It may just be a result of the strict protocols Nintendo's enforcing for online etiquette. Doesn't mean the game was rushed. After all, I play offline most of the time and I never, ever, EVER encounter problems there. Hell, the article even states this error was brought about when players play For Glory online.
@Joruus_Cbaoth Why are you always such a negative neil?
@Joruus_Cbaoth Hey, That's a nice opinion. Until you said that no one can possibly defend this making any debate seems worthless to you which makes it sound like you got a nail stuck in your foot. Best take a breather sonny.
@H_Hog Hey that's my backloggery wallpaper. I need to get around to change that someday..
@Peach64 and here's reason #246 as to "Why we need an account based system."
Well, this sucks.
It's not acceptable that such a high profile game suffers from a fatal error like this, not to mention how embarrassing it must be for Nintendo, but there's always the possibility for a single mistake left in the code that only surfaces in a very specific set of conditions. Such bugs can't always be completely corrected before the launch date, but I'm sure it will be before long.
In that sense the game was released "unfinished" but this isn't all that unusual people. We'll get over it.
@NodesforNoids huh?
@H_Hog Simply because those game didn't need patches to fix their game. These games should have been complete when they releases it. There should have been no need to fix all the technical stuff I.e. rush cancelling. That's like if they patched Melee to fix Wave dashing or need Meta Knight in Brawl.
@Joruus_Cbaoth LOL!
I don't understand... His system worked fine, up until he accessed SSB... So, how is this "bricking" the system? Do we all not remember that the Wii version of this game had issues as well? I know, I had to take my Wii in for an "update" as SSB didn't work... if this happens due to people "shutting off the power during the save screen" well, you have been told on numerous occasions never to do that.
@MasterGraveheart I just started playing For Glory last night, but to For Fun it is!
@Joruus_Cbaoth Brawl and Melee also had no real way of being patched even IF they needed it. If those games had been found to be faulty, they would have had to recall them entirely.
And unless Nintendo had considered it important enough to do so (which only happened in rare occurences), they simply wouldn't bother.
Eh, I never had this problem before. Though I suppose this gives me even more fuel to finish all of the challenges without using Golden Hammers since that's what I've been doing for the past few days. So far I got 94/140 done.
@Platypus101
According to other threads, the glitch may brick system if you attempt to format the Wii U after experiencing it (it will get stuck in "deleting save data" forever).
I have a feeling this error comes up due to people rage quitting the game mid save. Either way, the system shouldn't turn into a brick after formatting the drive so that does need a fix.
And now I'm glad I didn't grab this game on launch and choose Bootyonetta-ahem-BAYONETTA. I'll get Smash for Wii U soon, but I am kind of glad I didn't grab it right away, because knowing my luck, this could've happened to me.
But now I'm worried about all first day release games in the future...
@GeminiSaint ah... it doesn't help that (according to threads) that Nintendo's Help Line is asking people to do just that! Urg...
@Joruus_Cbaoth you sir, have no dog in this hunt. My copy of Smash for Wii required a physical update (of the Wii itself!) in order to even PLAY Smash... Hush. You'll ruin the moment.
This news article needs to be updated. There is mounting evidence that this is only happening to people who are playing off of thumb drives. I've yet to see anyone with this issue who wasn't using a thumb drive and it's unfortunate that this story blew up before the "victims" admitted wrongdoing on their own part (as Nintendo absolutely recommends to avoid thumb drives entirely).
@BensonUii Yes hear hear!
@Platypus101 That wasn't an update, you sent your Wii in to get cleaned, many of had to because the laser could not read dual layer dice due to debris.
I also want to point out again that this is an exceedingly rare issue. VERY few people have come forward who experienced this problem and it appears that there is some user error involved.
@ACK actually... There were bad sectors on the drive for MANY of the consoles.., which only occurred after Smash save data. I still have my receipt (and my memory of a 20 minute long discussion with the repair guy)... What I was unaware of was the lack of physical repair shops around the states. I was lucky and only had to drive 30 some-odd miles and wait an hour for my unit.
@ACK I was going to ask... Do we know the number of units affected so far? Round number? Because 500K sold in the US alone. 5k users woul only be 1%
Ok... So after reading some threads... Looks like @ACK is correct. User error may be playing a large part in this thanks for pointing out the Thumb Drive thingy...
@ACK
If people are using thumb drives and this causes the issue, why does this affect the disc version, whose save file goes to the Wii U memory and not the thumb drive? It may have to do with people doing a copy of the save file on the thumb drive?
@ACK I had this issue every time a booted the game. I was not using a flash drive, and I don't believe there was any error on my part. The second time I started the game I got the error. I was using a disc copy. I attempted to factory reset my Wii U, and it crashed during the process, and would not boot after.
Going to be sure to avoid For Glory now, is that the main reason? I hope I'm not one of the unlucky ones...
@TheGreatBrawler It's definitely not only when you play for glory. I never played for glory and I had the issue.
@Joruus_Cbaoth Nobody needs to defend anything, we just need to LOL, point and laugh at your sad pathetic attempt to troll. You mad bro? lolol
You sound so angry! Just calm down, take a deep breath, and think happy thoughts. #FailTrollFails #DontBeSoAngryLolz
For what I've heard, actually, it's not a bug, but data corruption: many users must have turned off the console while the game was saving (The game has automatic save) and people didn't noticed that. I've heard that some users got it after turning off the game right after completing a Master Order or a Crazy Order, so it must be that the problem. The better things to do to avoid this are: 1)Avoid to play For Glory (unlike the For Fun mode, it saves the results); 2)NEVER turn off the console while you're playing the game, but open the Home menu, close the game from it and when you return to the Wii U Menu THEN turn off.
@kaya122
Is it possible to happen to digitally downloaded games? Not physical copies? If so then I'm scared, if not then I'm safe. But anyways it sucks for those who has this problem because it would be disappointing to even not be able to use your wii u. Hope this problem gets fixed for everyone.
@Yorumi Exactly. The console should not have broke when I tried to factory restore, no matter what caused it.
It appears I misunderstood the cause of the error earlier.
I did manage to play For Glory, so hopefully my console didn't get affected. TBH after playing it I was thinking of staying away from it until I've done more offline anyway. People were just spamming the hell out of certain special moves (like Ike's charge move) to the point where you couldn't touch them without getting sent flying. I know it's not a new problem but I could do without playing idiots like that all the time! Gonna stick to friend matches or For Fun if anything for a while.
@TheGreatBrawler I would assume it's still possible but I'm not entirely sure.
@kaya122 Well, I don't have the answers. As others have said, it's a data corruption issue of some sort, usually caused by powering the console down during the save process. I've put in over a hundred hours on SSB on my launch Wii U with no issues, so I can't replicate the issue. Then again, I'm always extremely careful about when I power down for fear of this very sort of issue.
According to Nintendo Customer Support, the system becomes bricked because you attempted to format before deleting the corrupted save data, so that would qualify as user error in any case.
Really we need more info, but there are not many experiencing this issue and those that have are not exactly forthcoming with details.
@Yorumi Well.... data corruption happens when well... you turn off while you're saving, so it's not really a "bug". About the console bricking, I guess it must be effectively something else.... keep in your mind however that this game save file is a lot bigger than other games', so I wouldn't exclude that it could be that the problem. Follow my advice and I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
i've been playing for glory since day 1 as well. Haven't encountered that problem. The game plays great and the online 1v1 is very good. hardly any lag for me.
@ACK You're totally right, I'm sure it's a data corruption issue, but it should display a message like most games do that say something like "saving do not turn off the power." It definitely did not have any message saying that when I turned off the console. And I did attempt to delete the data before restoring, but I get the same memory error when trying to delete it. It's just poor design if one corrupt save file prevents you from restoring the system.
We've played a lot since it came out in the US but only once did I play online; and even then it was in the "just for fun" mode.
This worries me but I believe it's isolated and very rare because Nintendo has not shut down online temporarily. I would think that if the bug is being caused by this game and this one particular online mode, then Nintendo would just shut down Smash online until they were able to fix the bug.
I'm going to cross my fingers on this one and hope I'm lucky enough to not have this problem like I was with the "red ring of death" on the 360.
@kaya122 I admit that did occur to me as well right after I first popped SSB into my Wii U. I never saw such a message and that sort of made me extra careful about when I power down because it wasn't clear when it was auto saving. That probably should be rectified.
@Platypus101 It's not clear yet how many have been affected, but sleuthing around I've counted around 10-15 that have had their system bricked. How many overall is anyone's guess.
Because of this issue i put my game away now! I am not playing this until it has been resolved.
Nintendo, I sure hope you can fix this. I will be getting smash bros soon....
I don't see a warning on Nintendo's website???? Would they have one on there if they thought that playing more Smash could break our systems?
@nightmaremoon It may not be an issue with the game as much as the saving process. Seriously, as far as we can tell the chances of you experiencing this issue is probably less than your Wii U simply crapping out during normal play.
I point this out, because it may not be resolved in the way you are expecting. We need more clarification, but it may not be something a patch can fix. Go ahead and play the game, but be careful not to power down when saving and if you by chance encounter the error by all means TREAD LIGHTLY.
Deleting the SSB save file may resolve it, but beyond that don't take any rash actions.
I don't have Smash and I can just avoid Data Management since I have a 1 TB hard-drive so this issue will likely be patched up by the time I get Smash or access my data management.
So would it help mitigate the possibility problem if I moved the SSB save file to my external hard drive, or to move all of my other save files to the external hard drive, or both?
Okay, so I wanna get something straight here. I play the disc version. I haven't once played the game online yet. The only thing I've done online is spectate a match. When I'm done playing, I leave the menus and let it go to the title screen before hitting HOME and going back to the Wii U Menu. Are my chances of encountering the error slim, or should I avoid playing the game entirely, just to be safe? Because I really wanna play, but I'm not doing anything that'll ruin my console. I can't afford that right now.
EDIT: I save everything to an external hard drive.
@ACK You're probably right, this most likely has something to do with the underlying API used by all apps to save files. I very much doubt this is a problem with SSB. I'm going to continue playing and just be sure to power down safely when I'm on the title screen. I'm still willing to bet rage quitters, prematurely disconnecting or powering off their system is behind this mess. Nintendo may simply end up patching the game to display an appropriate "save in progress" message and that's about it.
@TreesenHauser If I was personally saving everything to an external hard drive, I wouldn't be worried in the least.
@Akira_1975 Figured so. I guess I won't sweat it then.
@Peach64 and this is why I buy physical over digital
Ive not seen this on any other site,are we sure Nintendo are trying to fix it.
I have only played "For Fun" mode. Glory mode is for those who want to get assaulted & apparently broken!
Haven't gotten the game yet but I hope that they fix this before I do.
the only problem i seem to have is it takes a while for the game to start up and it always skips the opening cinematic when i first start it up, i dont know if thats a glitch or just normal. i hope this doesnt happen to me. and i hope they fix it fast i want to play online but i cant gauge how large the problem is but by seeing that a few people in the comments have it that must mean its more than a few people
Well, I haven't seen any problems yet. Good thing I don't play Smash online on my Wii U - I should hopefully be safe if I leave that option alone.
wait im curious is this only happening with digital copies of the game?
Is it possible we're all just over reacting? =) Its very common for rage quitters to disconnect or power off their system during competitive matches in order to avoid a bad ranking. I don't think it's a coincidence we're seeing this only happen during "For Glory" matches. Honestly, I'm not worried at all. A game will not break your system. If there was a serious problem with the system firmware then we would have already seen this issue with other games.
@Akira_1975 well they did just release a new firmware update it is possible that is causing the problem.
@blackbeltbap Oh cool, wasn't aware of an update today.
I had a different problem. The original game i got wouldnt read. My documentation of the problem: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6vf53pG3TSY
I did get a new game though that works great
http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2o2ems/error_1600103_its_not_smash/
So much for stability, huh?
This problem is not just occuring in Super Smash Bros. The title of this article needs to be changed. Please read the link in @vitalemrecords post.
Welp, looks like I'll hold off on picking up my copy until this gets resolved.
I've been playing online like crazy, and I haven't had any problems..... Also my Wii U's system memory is almost full... I have only 400 MB of free space.
Don't be scared, and trust the quality of Nintendo.
i just bought mine online (will arrive in the mail within a week) and this may be fixed by the time it arrives. i also dont plan on playing online even if i do have decent internet so im not gonna risk it. hope this is resolved soon and this is why you have to report to nintendo, sometimes during debugging few unnoticeable bugs show up after the game is complete.
Guess it's good I didn't land SSBWiiU yet... yikes...
i have been playing nonstop every chance i get... no errors
@Joruus_Cbaoth ever since I started here I have been seeing you say negative things only. What is wrong with you? Why do you only say negative things? Is that all you do on your time?
I guess I will be keeping myself away from online for now at least until there is a fix. I am gonna be even more careful now.
I havent seen anything messing up except the random boot when looking for lobbies.
So after reading around about this problem, it's not just exclusive to Smash Bros and maybe not quite as epidemic as this article made it out to be. Ensuring you don't turn off the console while the game is auto-saving seems to be advisable too.
Just a shame that the price of Smash + mario amiibo has gone up since I cancelled my initial order. Well I think I'll wait now anyway and see if the price goes down again before I buy it.
So yeah, no reason to not play smash then? Maybe update the name of the article?
It does sound like there could be a problem with the data save here and that it could happen with other games depending on how people treat their kit.
I think the main thing to note is that physical or digital doesnt confer immunity to data corruption, but using an external storage device for the save file makes it much less likely that you'll brick your system.
Eh. Nintendo will patch the problem out soon. The article name should be changed, though.
Not saying this game is awful because of this (as well as the 3DS games ban glitch) but really? This game gets a glitch that BRICKS SYSTEMS and WIPES MEMORIES and the vast majority still considers it a good game, a Sonic game gets a couple glitches that leave you having to reset the game and play from the last save (oh noes!) which I, personally only encountered once and it was my own fault, and it's an awful game, the new '06, worst game ever, no one should touch it. BRICKING CONSOLES and WIPING MEMORIES is much worse than simply having to restart from the last save.
Looks like Nintendo is aware: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHhoW2xyUA
@kamifox1 Yeah, but not everyone is encountering the error code though, unlike the Sonic Boom glitches which are much more widespread--enough so that no review copies were sent out. I'm not saying those problems aren't bad--I think they're awful. I feel sorry for anyone with bricked consoles, and Nintendo needs to fix this, like, NOW. But it seems to only affect particular consoles... which is also admittedly weird.
@TreesenHauser Glitches are worse that errors that brick a console? Are you f***ing kidding me?
@GreatPlayer I never said that, you twisted my comment around. What I said was that the Sonic Boom glitches are far more widespread. I even acknowledged in my previous comment that the error codes are awful and Nintendo needs to make a fix, like, YESTERDAY.
Clickbait title - Smash has nothing to do with it.
Very scary. Played online once. But I won't play online again untill the problem is solved.
guys its not smash's fault:http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2o2ems/error_1600103_its_not_smash/
For Fun, For Glory, For Errors.
My Wii U gave me a wired beep noise and my screen froze any ideas what it’s about?
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