@Red_Kinetic glad your gf liked it, I got so into this game my girl friend at the time dumped me. Great game, fond memories!!

Tune in live to get the latest news on pikmin delays and nothing like the finished product game demos!!!!
I hope I'm soooo wrong!!

The shape is fine by me, nice and compact still. The name is what I don't like, would have preferred super-Wii if they had to keep the Wii brand.

More than just a bit bored with cod now. I only got blops2 for the zombies mode, which this won't feature! In fact havnt even clicked on the other modes yet since purchase, bad sign. Still not one measly piece of dlc for that either so I'll be avoiding this I think until they sort that out at Activision!!

My phone has nfc.....wonder if they could let me connect my miiverse account with my phone to update/ log in/ maybe even out of house edit characters....would be very convenient and I guess pretty secure!?! ......in fact, while I'm dreaming how about this- the update will allow standby downloads, in theory I could choose(on my phone) a download/update and simply tap my phone on the game pad on the way out/in the house to confirm/start the process???

Pretty acurate really, hope Sony and Microsoft get the same media pressures if they struggle at first!!!
Agree about nin-land too, didn't impress me much....shame it didn't have a couple more mini games and show off the graphics ability of the Wii u more =(

Update yet anyone????????

@banacheck the current games developer crisis shouldn't need explaining man, studios are closing down left, right and centre, as costs to produce games goes up from gen to gen only the big developers will be able to invest the time and money on 'big' games. Hence the surge of apps and indie small games for handhelds as they are cheap and profitable with not much investment/risk.
You might be right on the price, I'm not sure it will be that cheap but $500/£300ish on release would match the usual price band of Sony releases.
..."Forgot to say the PS3 will be around for a long time yet making Sony profit, by the time it's stopped being made they'll make some of that back what they lossed on the PS3"......so which is it loss or profit? That statement is oxymoronic!!!

@banacheck in dream land there mate, the ps3 has to make money for more than the last 2 years of its shelf life to class as profit making overall. The 'fact' you mentioned is pure speculation as we don't know jack about what production costs are yet or even what it will be sold at. The only cost saving you mentioned that seemed real, for devs, don't save Sony money but the devs themselves. Many of which have publicly stated they cannot afford to produce next gen graphics games en masse....nearly every dept Sony run is losing money and they are in serious trouble of collapse, not now, but if things don't change soon. To think Sony are going to tell you what's going in behind th scenes is so stupid it's laughable!! And btw...$500 sound accurate for release prices =)

Thought this would be much worse, what with so many people working so hard, round the clock, non-stop on that immense vc launch line up!!! =)

Could be a good opportunity to bridge the east/west games culture gap of release dates, adult content, or even let relations grow with key western development in games wanted here but not in demand so much in Japan etc......or just be a different name on the door to an empty office!?!

Simply awful......so disapointed with Nintendo lately. They are doing great things with the 3ds right now, but I don't have one, I pumped my hard earned cash into the Wii u on release day and feel so let down since. I belive in the console. But will never ever buy a Nintendo console within a year of release again......NO SUPPORT!!!!

@SpaceApe could you sound any more of an idiot.....JSuade just hit you with facts, figures and blew your point out of the water.....and you come back with 2 games that aren't even out yet and a load of whinging....get over it, you like gory games and Nintendo don't make them,never have, but will still outsell them.

This forum has turned into a roll call of who's mummies pay for their games!!!
When you work many hours in a poop job to pay for a game because you want to support retro gaming through one company you notice an unnecessary charge. They would lose a tiny amount of money if they didn't charge but would have possibly kept more fans from their biggest selling console generation on board through their decision....just a thought...

@LavaTwilight I fully respect your point, it cuts right through the bull of ethics etc and in theory your right, companies just want money. I accept that, I'm just more of the opinion that Nintendo would possibly make MORE by investing in maintaining their fans loyalty, long term, by promoting the idea of cult gamers getting more with Nintendo. I know I'm in dream land and they have to cover costs but I could just download the games onto an android tablet illegally to have off screen play for free. I don't want that but others will and that costs them money. I just wish the balance favoured loyalty a little more is all. I will get over it. I promise =)

@craigmoss19 you are correct, many companies do not charge for upgrades. This is due to licencing and the fact that they are usually software tools used for buisness or educational purposes. Games are entertainment and as such not essential, but we choose to spend money on them for pesonal enjoyment and loyalty to our interests.
For ethical reasons I avoid Microsoft, they are a company with a long history of choosing money over morals. I refuse to spend money on these options which fueled my passion for nintendo as they are the only console company still specialised in making games with an honest buisness ethic. I simply see the vc charge as a lean towards money over loyalty, that's all.
And btw the full price thing, I was responding to your comment "people should be grateful that they aren't charging full price to upgrade to the Wii U versions because they could have done if they wanted to" I'm not trying to get at you, just to get you to realise the current games trend is apps, which recieve free update, nitendo is competing against this model with the vc and new to nintendo customers will expect the same.

@craigmoss19 with that logic, I guess you like buying the same game of the same company and paying the same amount each time, right! Even though no new content is added, or changes made! Mh3 added new content/features/visuals to a couple of years old, current game. It would be stupid to think somebody buying Mario games that encouraged them to spent thousands over years on a company...for at least the second time....is the same as this.....it's just milking the hard core fans bank balance at a time when they have been very patientfor new games. They could at least have let me copy a set amount for free then charged if I had loads more than average!!

@SilentHunter382 well said man, people have got to realise that if you encourage companies to charge you more.....they will. Nintendo would not still be in buisness if it were not for their cult status making them money. I love that they still make the best games around but I don't see why the games that won us over are used to make money from us again. I bought them on the Wii for a second time out of RESPECT for ninendo and their legacy. We are fortunate the Wii u has a Wii built in to play old vc games if not we'd need to keep an old console running, defeating the whole point of old games on new hardware. The bottom line, of we pay now, they will make us pay next gen again, and then again,etc...

@Yosher I'm well pissed at the idea of paying more for Wii u vc stuff I've already bought. I hear it's 99p for Nes and £1.49 for snes games......cult gamers are having their loyalty milked if you ask me!!

@TreesenHauser Nintendo letting rare slip through their fingers was the stupidest thing they ever did....the turning point for the popularity of their consoles and the quality of the games on them. They beat Nintendo at their own game and pushed them to make more and better games themselves!!!
Whether it's blast corps, diddy Kong racing or perfect dark rare made the best in class games that sold consoles and won over fans. Shame that Microsoft has achived nothing good game wise with them!?!
So, yeah, any rare games we can get for the vc will keep me happy...won't happen though =(

I knew from day one there was gonna be a problem with games for the Wii u......it was released on the same day as farcry3 and made me think....if Nintendo were taking this seriously that game would be a Wii u launch title, no question about it, equality with other software line ups on this generation is a must!!! No tendo could buy out/subsidise developers if they eanted, but don't, if we don't get dlc from console selling franchises they aren't bothered!! Where's their pressure in the media calling for support? If we are not getting support of Nintendo over releases then who will help?

@datamonkey
Glad I'm not the only person dumbfounded by why people are not asking for wave race!! It would be perfect for the Wii u....graphics wise it would show off the power to other nin-haters and always was a gameplay and physics masterclass. Also the pad could show waves/weather top down for maps of 2nd player controls....like need for speed. Just a thought.....

Bit weird that the levels need changing if the character dynamics have been changed. Wouldn't doing the same level with a different character BE the challenge? I unlocked Luigi in Mario galaxy and the best thing about it was the same level played differently with his faster,slippery style!

Cool stuff but I ain't got the time/money to build one.....

I'm more bothered about the impending update.....any news anyone?

@RebeccaGunn
Good call, just bought loads the other day. Would hate to miss out..

What's the vita then......a sniffle?

Would rather have more content on release than dlc, especially in a re-release!! Would prefer if dlc was used to add to experimental modes/challenges.....like if they weren't sure which modes fans would prefer they could invest minimal time/money on expanding it unless fans warmed to that mode and wanted more....I feel dlc is charging fans for the use of content that,in most cases, should be in the box from the start. I used to pick the games that would last me the longest.....hard to pick games based on this value now due to dlc!!!

Where's the love for James pond!!!! Thought there were some classics in that series that need 're-releasing' . Also thought I'd get out there some classic arcade titles that seem forgotten like the turtles and Simpson's 4 player arcade machines, time crisis, aliens3 arcade, point blank and will somebody, somehow enable me to play blast corps64 again....i miss that games so much and can't even find a hacked Rom that works!!!!

Sucks for Sony cash wise lately so this is good. Nintendo actually have way more money than Sony, so strange they don't cone under the same media pressure of collapse if the ps4 fails?

Boom, was gonna spend my £15 winnings from the comp tonight on trine 2 but now I'll wait and get the cave aswell...happy days!!!!

Sucks to not get this in the UK!! Saving my points for ages waiting to see how the virtual console Wii/Wii u thing settles down.....I ain't paying more to convert them to the game pad friendly versions of games I've already bought. Sound like its gonna happen though....=(

@AbeVigoda well said man, classics have to prove themselves over time.....this has not. It's just the first half decent racing game on the Wii u....if this is classic material we should be worried!!

Would like the tvii feature to work in the uk......other than that it's the best of modern technology condensed into one controller and follows Nintendo's philosophy of family, sociable gaming in the living room.....I'm happy =) just need more games out for it!!!

Great game that more or less sold the idea of the Wii u to me. Original in a genre so overcrowded with average games. However, seems to have failed to build on popularity as essential patches are still missing and has no 'pick up and play' game modes like a wave mode or a series of challenges/collectables which has left my copy collecting dust since I Finnished it. A shame as I had no reply to my x-box loving mates writing it of as a gimmick game!

@MadAussieBloke
Sorry, kinda burst the bubble there......

@Hunter-D Nintendo direct reveals nothing to anyone who doesn't already love Nintendo, achives nothing but hype and I'd quite happily lose them if we got the new Nintendo games even a week quicker...
I think iwata has allot to face up to, I personally would like a Thankyou/sorry for the poor marketing and release scedule testing die hard fans patience. I gave them my hard earned money(again) in a recession and all I got back was a 2d Mario game using the same engine as the original and a collection of mini games designed to make you buy further into franchises they won't release for a year.....maybe.....rumoured.... Still trying to understand why the Wii u has no relevant apps aswell, iPlayer, facebook, Twitter,instagram,,,,,you know,,,,the ones that billions of people world wide buy electronics every day for. Nintendo are behind the times which makes me sooo sad as they belive they are not =(

I don't own a 3ds so no joy for Wii u users, hard times when a Lego game is all that's on offer for us in a month where ps/x-box users got so many new games.....AGAIN!! There's not a single decent game for release on Wii u with a SOLID DATE this YEAR!! Q3 possibilities don't sell consoles,Nintendo need to commit to some solid dates on releases on their own games or others won't bother releasing their games through nintendo at all!?!