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Nintendo Reveal Why Its 3D Mario Title Isn't Super Mario Galaxy 3

Posted by Orla Madden

Y no Super Mario Galaxy 3, Nintendo?

When Nintendo announced it was developing a new 3D Mario for the Wii U back in January this year, immediately we thought about a possible sequel to Super Mario Galaxy 2, or maybe even Super Mario Sunshine.

It was quite surprising that the 3D game in development was in fact Super Mario 3D World, which was announced during today's Nintendo Direct broadcast. The game features similar gameplay style to Super Mario 3D Land for the 3DS.

When asked by IGN why the developer didn't choose to go down the Super Mario Galaxy route, producer Yoshiaki Koizumi and director Koichi Hayashida explained that it all boiled down to the idea of simultaneous 4-player local multiplayer in the game. When Super Mario 3D Land was in development, Hayashida believed that a multiplayer aspect would be a great addition, but sadly didn't make the final cut.

Hayashida and Koizumi further discussed that the development team are drawing elements from previous Mario titles. For instance, we notice Princess Peach's floating ability, which was seen in Super Mario Bros. 2 and the ability to move the camera around while you play, just like in Super Mario 64.

Another interesting question, was the fact that Peach is a playable character in the upcoming Super Mario title, who is kidnapped? Nintendo wouldn't give an answer on the topic.

You can catch more information on the newly announced Super Mario 3D World from the developer direct here. As always, let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.


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Rafie said:

Its all good. I actually think this is going to be a huge seller. It has some pretty neat features.



psyguy said:

This is how it should have been YEARS ago. My daughter will love the fact that she can play as the princess now



WaveBoy said:

After rewatching the trailer i'm warming up to it. But I'm just relieved that Amanda Bynes didn't show up and crash the show. Instead she hacked into the stream and chopped it up! I don't understand, how much attention does the girl need!?



Varia01 said:

Makes since now. This game is now starting to be perfectly fine with me. The story? Perhaps Bowser seeks vengeance on Mario and is too mad to capture Peach. Bowser goes on a rampage along with his minions. Peach decides she needs to stand up and protect her kingdom. She starts to help Mario, Luigi, and Toad. I'm now quite excited for this.



berenlazarus said:

I didn't want SMG3 because I wanted something new, or, barring that, Super Mario 64 revisited and reimagined with that same sandbox feel and not so much linear courses. The multiplayer will be good.

The most interesting bit though is the story implications of Peach being playable, meaning (even by Nintendo logic) that she's not kidnapped this time around. Therefore, what is driving the (admittedly paperthin in previous titles) plot?



FLipSide5254 said:

I like the ability to move around the camera like super mario 64, it's much easier to control that way.



Expa0 said:

C'mon Nintendo, don't you know what happened when Ratchet & Clank tried this with All 4 One.

SPOILERS it wasn't very fun END SPOILERS



capitalism said:

I love it, it had to grow on me a little but now that I've really checked it out I'm really in love with the game. Four player multiplayer in a 3D Mario game??!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like a mix of Galaxy, 64, and 3D land which is a great thing and watching the video's in HD sold me on the graphics. CANT WAIT TO PLAY IT TOMORROW!!!



MasterChordles said:

Wait, if we can play as peach... That means bowser didn't kidnap her... Would that mean Wart is coming back?!?!?



gamerdooz said:

Here's a twist:
Dr. Eggman is the boss and Sonic's "Lost World" is actually Mario 3D Land. At the end of the game, Sonic warps over in a green pipe and becomes a 5th playable character. Why else would Dr. Eggman not appear in one of SEGA's Nintendo exclusive video games?

Nah... I like your idea better!



RestlessPoon said:

I bet the true successor to Galaxy/Sunshine/64 will come sometime in 2015. I mean, we had 2 main Mario games for the Wii. Why not for the Wii U as well?



RestlessPoon said:

I bet the true successor to Galaxy/Sunshine/64 will come sometime in 2015. I mean, we had 2 main Mario games for the Wii. Why not for the Wii U as well?



stipey said:

More like, "the Wii U is doing really badly at retail, and we already had a Mario game here, so we finished another one as quick as we could!"



Ernest_The_Crab said:

Ah so ultimately it was as predicted, this worked better for multiplayer, eh makes sense.

Quite frankly, the huge Mario games never sell that well anyways at least not enough to promote console sales by all that much. They generally have pretty long legs when it comes to sales but ultimately don't manage to even remotely overtake the smaller Mario titles and their burst sales. In the position Nintendo is in right now it's not like it would have been worth making a big Mario game anyways. Maybe sometime down the line, in a few years maybe but not now.

Too many people here are letting their emotions get in the way of common sense.



DESS-M-8 said:

This was a bad call. It doesn't even look much better than Super Mario 3D Land.

The lead mario game needed to look stunning and be truly amazing and have the impact that Galaxy had in the Wii. This looks a half effort like new super mario bros wii compared to the level of work in the galaxy games. Mario 64, mario sunshine, mario galaxy. That's the sequence, there isn't a true mario sequel till they provide an actual 3d world mario,

This reveal was guttering and underwhelming



sinalefa said:

I am very happy with this. Of course I was expecting a Galaxy/Sunshine 3D Mario type of game, but this looks very fun, and we haven't played as Peach in around 25 years in a core Mario game.

It also makes sense because if 3D Land was the blend of 2D and 3D, then the next logical step was to add multiplayer.

And if Wii had 3 Mario games, maybe Wii U can repeat.



Slapshot said:

Wouldn't the 4 player game have been better suited for the Wii, and not a single screen console?



LtAldoRaine said:

OK. I just want an epic sucessor to the Galaxy games (not an Galaxy 3 necessarily) after it.



Henmii said:

I also hoped for a totally new, free-roaming one! But I guess this also will be fun! 3D land did remix many ideas from the Galaxy games, but I have a feeling that this one will have more new stuff in it! And graphically it looks pretty sweet!

To put it short: This won't be cheap like New super Mario bros 2 (or maybe even New super Mario bros Wii u). I guess this will have more effort put into it!



Sir_JBizzle said:

@RestlessPoon that's almost the exact sentiment I wrote earlier. If I was to guess, we'll get Zelda U next holiday and a new free roaming Mario the holiday following that. Hopefully we'll get a Star Fox, Metroid or new IP sometime in between all that.



Ryno said:

@WaveBoy: Dude, you are going to get Mario'd out with currently playing SMG2 and having NSMBU on deck and who knows what other Mario game you have been playing on your 3DS.



MeWario said:

@SkywardCrowbar Agreed Super Mario 3D World looks great, but it doesn't strike me as the definitive 3D Mario title for Wii U. We will get something else eventually, probably U-niverse.



NintyMan said:

I would've taken this over Super Mario Galaxy 3, believe it or not. It's all okay, though, because there may well be a new truly 3D Mario game sometime down the road. The Wii got two of them, so I don't see why Wii U couldn't.



WaveBoy said:

So how exactly is the wii u game pad's screen utilized? Were being shown trailers, but were not being shown the innovation. I highly doubt nintendo has done anything creative with it if NSMB.U's lame stylus-appearing 'help' platforms are any indication.

Dude, i've only played 2 games on my 3DS this year and they were both VC games haha. castlevania: The Adventure and Metroid II. I generally lose interest in portables pretty quick, typically it takes about a year or so for this to happen. I'm sure it will kick me back when my mullet grows down to my knees. SMG2(aside from being 3D) and NSMBU are so diffferent from one another, Yet playing NSMBU and then NSMB.2 will give me a stroke of Danny tanner dejavu, which is why i'm going to space them out and play the forgettable looking NSMB.2 maybe a few months after:p

Anyways, i wish GoodFeel would take over the Super Mario franchise, seeing as how Nintendo themselves can't seem to break out of familar Zone.



Yrreiht said:

@Reploid Felt too much like a level pack. Not a lot of new stuff. Most levels felt even more linear than in the original and Yoshi didn't add much. The cloud power up was cool.



SkywardCrowbar said:

I think this game is going to be killer, and outside of the echo chamber of hardcore Nintendo fans and gamers, this new Mario game will be extremely appealing. This game and Donkey Kong and Wii Fit U and Wii Party U will draw in mainstream and casual gamers in droves this holiday season.

I feel like this game and Donkey Kong were both mostly marketing and financial decisions. Not in that they're shovel ware or bad games, but in that they're simpler games than something like a Galaxy and they will attract tons of new customers while still be top tier titles that we all expect from Nintendo.



jayblue said:

pure crap if it wasnt for earthbound i trade his in and still might,forget xbox im ps4 as you can trade games not much more to pay than i did for this crap old ports console,a 3d mario game is like the 3ds game nintendo have lost the plot this console is retro and its not long out.



GiftedGimp said:

If you havent already watch the developer interview on estore or youtube.. all the features are there... unless they still keeping something a secret.
It actualy makes a lot of sense as to why they went this route considering the features they've included. Mixing it up with features found in previous mario games including the NSMBU-like touch screen features.



rjejr said:

I've owned a Wii since launch and a PS3 for 4 years so here's my take:

2014 we get Sunshine on VC.
2015 we get 2-pack HD format Galaxy 1 and 2.
2016 we get Mario Unchained (b/c of the chain chompers, and he's unchained from the tv as he can be played on the Gamepad)



OptometristLime said:

dudey300 wrote:

Nintendo Reveal[s] Why Its 3D Mario Title Isn't Super Mario Galaxy 3

There is a nagging grammatical error in the title, that I'm hoping you can still catch.



ToneDeath said:

Bowser could always kidnap Princess Daisy instead I suppose, or what's-her-face from Galaxy.



Prof_Elvin_Gadd said:

I think the people wanting a new "Galaxy" game are missing the point. What they should want is something that is beyond imagination, like the first Galaxy was, like Mario 64 was, and even like Sunshine was. This is going to be fun and sell well, but it's not the innovative wow that some people wanted. I guess I'll just have to make my own wow someday. Until then, this is going to be fun! The more I see, the better it looks.



hYdeks said:

I think this game looks fantastic. I love that Nintendo tries to throw in co-op at every opportunity The person kidnapped is probably Daisy.



Yoshis_VGM said:

I'm not sure why everyone wanted a Galaxy 3. 2 Galaxy games is enough! Yeah, sure, I wanted something fresh too, but this game is warming up to me, and I'm quite looking forward to playing it. You guys all need to shut up and stop complaining. There are plenty of new things here:

1) This is major: MULTIPLAYER!!! Sure, Galaxy and Galaxy 2 had multiplayer, but it was just an "assist Luma." This game has FULL ON multiplayer, something that hasn't been seen in a 3D Mario ever before.
2) The cat suit. After getting over my initial shock that the new power-up is a cat, I started to like it.
3) The clear pipes. That is actually a really cool addition that I look forward to trying out.
4) This is a big one too: The story will finally be different! With Peach being a playable character, it's obvious that this game won't have the typical "Bowser kidnaps Peach, Mario saves the day, woohoo the end" story.

I will admit that I still have a longing for something fresh. I'm sure that this game will be amazing and I will love it and enjoy it. Just remember folks, we're still very early in the Wii U's life cycle (this game is coming just a little bit after it turns 1), so we could see another massive, completely fresh 3D Mario at a later date.

Until then, there's this game and Mario Kart 8, which is enough to soothe my need for Wii U games.



Ras said:

@OptometristLime UK vs. US usage. They look at a corporation as a collection of individuals, and thus company names are used in the plural. In the US, a corporation is an individual entity, hence the singular.



GamerZack87 said:

Who is kidnapped, you ask? Well, is there not another princess who was once held captive by a certain alien?



piperrobbie said:

I'm genuinely excited for this game, was completely expecting something else but I'm happy with what was revealed ∩( ・ω・)∩



Williaint said:

After I watched the developer video, I really gained more respect, and interest in the game!



Senate_Guard said:

Its funny how irrelevant this will make the New SMB series be. This is what it should've been like from the start!

But I still don't get one thing; why cats?



Captain_Balko said:

I'm probably the only one who felt this way, but I was very upset when this was announced. Like extremely so.

I'm a hardcore Mario fan, and I loved Mario 3D Land. But this? No. I liked Mario 3D Land because it fit on a portable. I don't want to play a multiplayer version of it on my Wii U. I want a new Mario game where I collect stars, play on my lonesome (with some help from a co-star, maybe) and DON'T climb up a flag pole to win. I never thought I'd be THAT GUY, but NO, Nintendo, I AM NOT AMUSED. Where is my REAL 3D Mario game? Will we even get one this generation? WHY NINTENDO? WHY, OH SWEET BABY JESUS, WHY?

I'm still going to buy it though. Because that's just who I am. I buy Mario games regardless of quality. But I think I have every right to be pissed off right now.



Ras said:

@MadAdam81 I love the Galaxy games, but I'm very excited with Nintendo's reveals today. I liked 3D Land a lot, and this looks like it continues that and takes it to new heights. Today's slate of games is pretty much why I had to have a Wii U, and that was before the Donkey Kong surprise.



Realgamer4life said:

I love the direction. It's like a great platformer in 3d. The wii u can do 3d I wonder if you have a 3d tv can you play on it.



brandonbwii said:

I like most comments are positive in this section. Now THIS is why I joined Nintendo Life.



GoombaJMR said:

I like the multiplayer, the Music, and basically everything else...except the fact that it'll be more level based than Sunshine and 64. I hope there is some kind of hub map



brandonbwii said:

I figured everyone to be disappointed in this announcement. Thanks for proving me wrong guys.



RetroGBHippie92 said:

I am so disappointed I may not get to play this, I loved 3D Land you know, I hope they go down the route with the NSMB series and make a second 3D Land for the 3DS, that means we can leave it at three "3D" titles and then get a successor to the galaxy/64/sunshine games. When I saw the cat power-up, I was like 'LOL that is so brilliant and cute' that I just had to smile. Gonna miss playing mario games....



Zodiak13 said:

@Captain_Balko It's ok man, just let it out. I am sad but only because I wanted to see a new IP announced from the Big N. I really think I want to start big conversations on mii verse about getting something really truly NEW. I know where I'm going right now.



Rezalack said:

I wasn't a huge fan of 3D Land, although I did like it. This looks like a huge improvement and the fact that it has some features reminiscent of SMB2 for NES just makes it that much more appealing to me. The boss fight with the snake things looks cool, too. I don't have a Wii U yet but odds are I'll be getting this game at some point. I'm sure it'll shape up quite nice despite the disappointment I felt when I saw a 3D Land sequel.



JackalMutt said:

This just fills me with a case of the happies. To finally see the Super Mario 2 gang out and running again



WiiLovePeace said:

I was slightly disappointed that it wasn't Super Mario Universe but after I've had a sleep & let it sink in I'm actually quite pumped for SM3DW. The multiplayer in it looks heaps fun in a competitive/co-op mix & yet still looks heaps fun in single player. That's just the magic of a Super Mario game, & now I can't wait for December



WaveBoy said:

keep up the positive attitude! I'm starting to warm up to 3D World a lot more now. I guess i was just expecting something wildy different kind of like how Galaxy was, where as this is treading on familar ground with 3D land. Still, this looks like the truest 2D-3D retro mario transition(Boy, i've said this quite a few times.) there is. It's what 3D mario should of been like after World!

None of this health metre, no 'small' mario 3-4 hit damage bs that's been in 64, sunshine and the galaxy games. Plus, it feels so good to finally have the run button back intact in a 3D mario title.



NImH said:

@jayblue your grammar is horrible. I have no idea what you just said... but I disagree with it. This game looks really fun and cool. I'm writing to Santa right now.



SkywardCrowbar said:

Everyone will warm up to this game as its release date nears. I predict it will be amazing, 10/10 kind of stuff. Nintendo will not disappoint. I have faith!



Magusnake said:

I was kind of hoping it would have some sort of online co-op. Should've known better. Still looks good, though.



WinterWarm said:

I think Daisy gets kidnapped.

I wish there was more 3DS announcements, the Direct was 8/10 Wii U news! >:[



BossBattles said:

the more i look at the game the more impressive it looks. there is a big difference between this and 3D land visually if you know what your eyeballs are looking at.



Meaty-cheeky said:

I am so happy to have a Mario game similar to Super Mario 2, Having each character having their own abilities is truly going to enhance and increase the longevity of this game.

Thank you Mr. Koichi Hayashida for listening to the fans.



StarDust4Ever said:

Will we ever get another 3D Mario game with free-roaming exploration? Most of the levels in Mario 64 and Sunshine were basically gigantic playgrounds. IMO Super Mario 3D Land and the upcoming 3D World feel too linear IMO. Still an insta-buy and kudos for Nintendo for reuniting the old SMB2 cast.

A handful of worlds in the Galaxy series featured free-roaming areas (like honey hive galaxy and beach bowl galaxy, for instance), and those turned out to be some of my favorite levels. Also sad that Rosalina will probably not be making any return appearances.



Meaty-cheeky said:

@StarDust I don't think Super Mario 3D world will be the last 3D Mario on the Wii U. The Wii had two Mario Galaxy games, so their is hope my friend.



Necuerto said:

Well, obviously, red Toad was the one kidnapped. No excuse for the playable toad to not be him unless he was captured, I say.



DeltaPeng said:

I like what I see so far. I like the NSMB series, and now having an actual 3D mario world that's multiplayer sounds awesome. This kind of gameplay will be difficult to pull off well, but if anyone can do this right, it's Nintendo. It's like how ppl wanted multiplayer in Mario64, except here you get 4 players along with the power suits. Mixing up the character abilities is nice too in giving each player a slightly different experience (and reason to swap and replay)



Oscarsome said:

I don't think this is the REAL 3D Mario. It's a 3D Mario, sure, but not the real one. I mean, you don't even collect stars to end the stage. Just green stars as secrets, but not golden ones. Those are reserved for the true 3D Marios (shine sprites count too).



renaryuugufan92 said:

I'm glad they didn't do a Galaxy 3, sure galaxy would have looked amazing however a sequal to Mario 3D Land was much more likely from the get go. For me I thought that Nintendo could have gone three routes, the first would have been to do a co-op 3D mario game, which they have done here with 3D world, the second would have been Galaxy 3, and the third option, would have been to chance it and make something totally new and with the current situation regarding the Wii U's sales I think the decision to make 3D world was a great one. Super Mario 3D Land helped to boost 3DS sales greatly when it released in late 2011, and I believe that when 3D world comes out this December we will once again see a revivial of a platform thanks to our favorite plumber, not to mention a few months after this game we will be getting Mario Kart 8, then a matter of months after that the fourth super smash bros. and THEN a brand new Zelda~! so the future is bright for the Wii U, the only or should I say, REAL question is will third parties jump back on board when the systems fly off the shelves once these games arrive~?



DrSlump said:

They're deserving one of the best shots for the next year, when competition will be really hot versus play4 and xbox1. I expect a big mario title next year.
The amazing or disturbing point of view of this event is that, according to me, every single game presented is worth of my money!
That's the difference between nintendo and competitors: every single game is always well packed.



BFarmer1980 said:

While I'm extremely disappointed in what I've seen, it's not because I think this is going to be a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, it looks pretty good.

But, the more full-on 3D world style of the previous console titles has a much bigger and grander feel, and that's really what I'm looking for. While this game looks great from one perspective, it also feels like more of the recent same. It's a bit of a different perspective version of NSMB. As such, a major selling point is the multiplayer aspect--which is fine if you live with a family or roommates, or in a dorm somewhere, and have gamer buddies at the ready. If you don't, that appeal is largely lost, and you're left playing a multi-player title by yourself.

But, even so, I'm still hopeful for a more full-fledged 3D Mario adventure somewhere down the line. and this game does look intriguing. But, that's also the problem. I'm intrigued by the games I saw Nintendo offer today, but I'm not excited enough about any of them to want to buy a Wii U yet. They haven't shown me a console-selling game yet.



DiSTANToblivion said:

After seeing all thedeveloper interviews I actually don't mind the direct at all, especially considering they'll have more. Those release dates though... ouch.



Davidiam007 said:

What?! Seriously?! We're all buying into this load of crap game? It's freaking mario 3d land dressed up as a wii u game!!!!! I am so pissed off right now! These games are not system sellers and the developers dressed up like they were three years old!!! There's charm and then there's creepy. Another freakin' donkey kong? Really retro? They need to stop reading just sales charts and start looking at loving forums. Most of the people that bought dkc don't play as often and are not as passionate as those that bought the game, play every day and wanted nintendo to also put out more. I've defended this damn company against people calling them rehashes, but after seeing their new games nothing has changed. I wanted a mario game, but this easy it. Multiplayer should be an option not the focus. Sorry, everybody, but I'm a little pissed off at nintendo cause they didn't even try.



Davidiam007 said:

@Ernest_The_Crab what are you talking about? The big mario games did push console sales. Nes, super nes, n64 and GameCube were pushed by the big boys. They promised a new mario, not this ripped off version of the 3ds mario land.



OptometristLime said:

Thanks for echoing (and elaborating upon) my grammar critique.
I know it's not the popular thing pointing out small linguistic flaws, but proper care can go a long way towards establishing a professional context.



edcomics said:

I'm happy with this reveal. The game looks crisp and fun. The return of Princess Toadstool with her floating ability is a real treat.



WaveBoy said:

I would prefer it if you dropped the lemming language and instead adopted this most righteous & contagious super spicy surfer lingo below.



Davidiam007 said:

@Rumbler are you serious dude? First, I'm not forcing my opinion on anyone. That is why I stated that I'm sorry that I don't feel the same. Second, just cause I'm a fan doesn't mean I have to like something when I truly don't. I'm disappointed and I have a right to be. If anybody should be reported its you for picking a fight. I don't see you that often on here so the moment I don't agree all of sudden I'm a troll? I'm on both wiiu daily, ign and this forum doing nothing but defending the wii u, but when they say they have something new and its Mario game, you damn well better believe my expectations were high and if they were truly spending all this time developing something new I was not expecting it to look and play like mario 3d land!!!!!
I love my wii u! I'm waiting for the wonderful 101, Zelda HD, xenoblade, bayonetta2, Zelda wind waker HD, and pikmin 3! I just found out that retro only helped with dkc so theres a good chance that they have a surprise still and I'm not happy with the mario 3d "world".



dumedum said:

It's exactly what Nintendo needs - a solid Mario title for the holidays. The epic Galaxy type game can wait. A lot of games will be in late 2014-2016.



Yoshis_VGM said:

I'm so glad that the Nintendo Life comments section has good people...the commenters on the YouTube video are just complainers that are like "waa waa it isn't Mario Galaxy 3 waa waa" and it's getting old.

I have a feeling that this game (which looks fantastic) will just be the taster for another, more grand 3D Mario that will come in 2-3 years. But I have a feeling that this and Mario Kart 8 will be enough at the moment to turn the Wii U's sales around.



valcoholic said:

This game looks like the greatest Multiplayer experience in years. Although I gotta say it doesn't really look like a really good singleplayergame compared to previous Super Mario games. But as I'm just glad to have something for my Multiplayer Parties on the horizon, I just can't wait; should've been there at the system's launch instead of NSMBU



digga said:

this looks more intresting coop than new super mario bros wii u,, not too sure about the cat thing tho



Moshugan said:

I never even concidered that they would make another Galaxy, why is "everyone" wanting that? A new game it has to be.
This is going to be great, but it's a bit bland to see a sequal as the first "big" Mario on Wii U. I was expecting something new and grand.



Davidiam007 said:

@Rumbler first of all you "were" the only person to reply. Most people on here would have at least asked me why felt that way. Judging by your post history, you're fairly new here. I know this is a fansite look at my history, Read what I wrote and see how much I love nintendo. You were the one who is trying to pick a fight, you dont have to reply and my reply to that other person was about epic mario games do move consoles you can't judge by my text I'm having an attitude or what my intentions were behind my reply. I answered him logically you answered me out of your own bias opinion.
By the way, The term troll is for people who soul purposely instigate things for a response to make people mad. I was just blowing off some steam. It's called negative feed back which is just as important as positive feed backs. The article says at the end lets us know what you think in the comment. Good day to you sir! I'm now just going to ignore you.



Yoshis_VGM said:

@Moshugan There's always the possibility that a new and grand 3D Mario will come at a later date. This game could just be the taster. Remember, we're still pretty early in the Wii U's life cycle. I would expect a brand new 3D Mario later on.



Fazermint said:

@Davidiam007 No one is trying to pick a fight with you. Don't get upset when your opinion is challenged.
It's not a rip-off since you cannot rip off your own creations. You misuse the term.
Also, who cares? The 3DS game got great reviews, and many of us haven't got a 3DS in the first place. It will probably be the most memorable Mario game so far because of the multiplayer aspect.



Yasume said:

We don't need a lineair game like this. I honestly don't see any difference with your average New Super Mario Bros. game, other than it's 2.5D (not 3D) instead of 2D.

Nor do we need Galaxy 3. We need a 3D Mario like 64 and Sunshine and be able to play in an open world again. This isn't a system seller.



Otto-Soq said:

I think that the dissapointment is that people expect a big size Mario in full HD glory, just like the Zelda Wii U demo (not Windwaker). A Mario who comes to life. A Mario who walks out of your HD screen. A Mario who is so realistic, you can see the wind blow trough his Italian moustache.



Yoshis_VGM said:

@TheRealOtto There's always the possibility that a new and grand 3D Mario will come at a later date. This game could just be the taster. Remember, we're still pretty early in the Wii U's life cycle. I would expect a brand new 3D Mario later on.



CowLaunch said:

I do like the look of this title, but for me to buy a Wii U, Nintendo needed to reveal a big Mario or Zelda game. Wind Waker HD and this, doesn't quite cut it.



Beta said:

I don't know why are people complaining when they just watched ONE trailer and ONE developer interview. Come on, guys, give it time and try it out if you're lucky enough to have one of the select Best Buys near you and just try it out. Don't call it out just yet, it looks REALLY fun, and that's what matters. If you begin comparing games with each other, you will miss out on lots of fun, so it's better to play games like it's the first game you ever played, it's more fun that way.



ledreppe said:

I'm surprised in a games media website talking about why Nintendo haven't made Super Mario Galaxy 3. It was stated by Miyamoto himself a long time ago that there was no point in making SMG 3, as they had done everything they wanted with the series, and it was time to move on to new ideas. You must've forgotten about this statement, or you just never heard it.

Anyway, I don't think SM3DW gives us quite the leap in new Mario gameplay that the Galaxy series did, but I like the new features in SM3DW anyway. I'll definitely be playing this on day 1!



doctor_doak said:

It's a very conservative entry into the 3D Mario franchise.. What unique use of the gamepad does this entry make??



Ganondwarf said:

Is the multiplayer just 4 dudes sitting around a TV playing or actually connect to people from other states/countries and play with them because if it's the 2nd option AWESOME!



element187 said:

@expa0 are you actually comparing Sony's platforming creation ability with that of Nintendo?

Come on, has Nintendo ever made a bad 3D Mario? They wouldn't force the multiplayer if it wasn't fun. They take 3D Mario very seriously.



element187 said:

I'm so looking forward to this game the next 6 months is going to be excruciating... I do not understand so called "fans" trashing this game. The visuals are gorgeous, textures look amazing, geometry looks well done, the lighting effects exceptional
(the sun shine hitting the map), the bokah gives the appearance of depth of field, the shading looks phenomenal. My wife isn't a console gamer at all, but even she is interested in playing this game.

I'm going to Bestbuy today at exactly 4pm. I really do not care if people are going to look at 33 old man standing in a Nintendo line... Why doesn't Nintendo just release the first level of this game on the eshop, that would get me super hyped more so than trekking down to bestbuy.



Doma said:

@CanisWolfred I'm pretty sure it's already been confirmed NOT to have online multi. I think i saw that on IGN.

Edit: actually, just click the link given in this article. They explicitly state it.



element187 said:

@doctor_doak we will have to wait and see.. I saw some of it that you can stop enemies and moving platforms by touch it and you can use it to modify the camera angle.



element187 said:

@Beta self entitled gamer syndrome... Because Nintendo didn't create the Mario game they envisioned in their minds, they are pissed. The truth is no matter which direction EAD Tokyo took the series in it would upset someone somewhere.. If they created Super Mario Galaxy 3 people would be complaining they wanted something new. Create something new you get people wishing for the same SMG 3. You cannot placate entitled gamer symptom. Maybe it's because I'm over the age of 30 and love what this company is instead of what I personally think it should be.

Maybe I saw a different Nintendo Direct than everyone else. We get a multiplayer 3D Mario for the first time that can either play like 3D Land/2.5 in multiplayer mode, or you can play the game single player like mario64 style and be in complete control of the camera...

I think that's what people are angry about is that they only saw the game from the zoomed out birds eye view mode that they think the camera is static.... Maybe Nintendo should have shown us the cool camera views that you can use. They showed this feature briefly in the developer interview. But looks like you can view the game from any angle while in single player mode.

This game is going to kick so much ass and be so much fun. I'll hit up bestbuy today and get some time with this game... The only thing I want from this game is MANY more levels than what's in NSMBU.... And some dlc to keep me busy for long time.



element187 said:

@stipey this game has been in development since 2011. You cannot make HD games like this in less than 12 months. It takes literally years to pop out a title.



Wii_Win said:

Woohoo, multiplayer. Still wish it was a sequel to galaxy, but I have no complaints about 3D land!



FernandoMachado said:

I'ts been stated on Nintendo Direct that this game is a sequel to the 3D Land series. A proper game in the 64/Sunshine/Galaxy series will come.



stipey said:

@element187 Well no, when they made the 3DS game, all the models that they made were already at that quality, and then they scale it back to get it on 3DS. That's how pretty much everyone works. They'll be using a slightly modified version of the engine from 3D Land. That takes a whole lot of the work out of it.

Development on 3D Land also started a long time before that came out, so the assets have been floating around for a long time!



WindWakerLink said:

I saw this game and was like "Awww.. Really?? Seriously...?" I'd hope for a new Mario 64/Galaxy like game. But! The fact that you can play with Peach got me all excited because the question is "Who are we saving??" I think it's maybe "Daisy" or "Rosalina" or some new character not introduced in the series. This is exciting!!!



AceTrainerAndy said:

I was so disappointed when I saw this. I was praying for a Super Mario Sunshine sequel. Why couldn't they keep this on 3DS? I know exactly why. This is easy money folks. They already have almost all the models. All the engines are pretty much there, so all that is left is level design. Plain and simple. The multiplayer excuse is bull. They are turning into EA more, and more, everyday. First the YouTube thing and now this.



startropics3 said:

"Another interesting question, was the fact that Peach is a playable character in the upcoming Super Mario title, who is kidnapped?"

Who is kidnapped?! Come on! That tired plot should die in a fire.
Must a female hostage define the Mario & Zelda series? Can Nintendo not think of a better motivation? Did Mario Party or Kart need a hostage? Remember when you could play as Bowser and Peach in Mario RPG for SNES?

A new plot would be the biggest surprise out of Nintendo this year, not that I care too much about the story anyway. It's not like you would quit playing if you rescued the Princess or whomever after the first of eight castles.



nocode said:

All I want is an online co-op Mario game, I don't live close to any of my Nintendo friends. I'll continue to dream I guess...



BlackStar9000 said:

@Bobhobob it would sell more if it had ONLINE multiplayer, dammit Nintendo, I WANT ONLINE MULTIPLAYER IN A MARIO GAME FOR ONCE!! Not mario kart or some spin off, in a regular title, just imagine how fun it would be in Nintendo land.....DLC....LEARN ABOUT IT!! I can only play mario kart with my kids while im aways and that just aint enough for us.....

Well i guess since the Wii U has been a big risk and games have been slow for them it only makes since to make titles that are easier to develop, so expect more of this and more HD re-releases in the future, I think Nintendo is doing this as a Stop gap so that ppl wont wait as long between the AAA titles come, I think its good, but dammit i would kill for some online multiplayer, LOCAL IS DEAD!!!



DarkNinja9 said:

im just glad it isnt another mario galaxy game -_- least the fact that peach isnt kidnapped is another good thing so least it would be good kinda... with the whole cat suit idk =|

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