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Weirdness: ABC News Tells Us All About How the 2Dees Can Play 3Dees Games

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

Also the Wii 32GB model, which strangely looks like a Wii U, gets a $50 cut

This week Nintendo of America's Reggie Fils-Aime did what almost any Executive in his position would do, he stated that the Wii U name wasn't the issue with the system, but did point out other areas that clearly have held the console back to date. That said, it's also clear that the name has been an issue to some extent, with plenty of tales readily available — from personal experience for many people — of confused potential customers not actually knowing the Wii U is an all-new system.

Of course, it's not just an issue for Nintendo to face, as technology companies typically add a number to hardware and send it out to market — the iPad generations have had their issues, for example. Clearly sticking a number before the brand name (2DS / 3DS) or a letter after another (Wii U) does baffle people, with a high profile example doing the rounds from ABC News. A "tech bytes" segment calls the 2DS and 3DS the "2Dees" and "3Dees" while claiming that the 2DS will show lower resolution graphics, which isn't quite accurate as it simply matches the 2D visuals on the 3DS. The Wii U is also consistently called the Wii — check it out below.

So how big a problem is this branding? It's an issue, though we wouldn't suggest it's a crippling problem; Nintendo simply needs to weigh in with clear, concise messaging and hope that retailers do the same.

[via kotaku.com]

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User Comments (133)

SpookyMeths

#2

SpookyMeths said:

Now someone needs to send this clip to Reggie. Send it too Iwata too, because someone needs to tell him that his naming scheme works fine in Japan, but makes no sense to the rest of the world.

Axed84

#3

Axed84 said:

"2Dees" and "3Dees" was hard on my ears. And as if casual consumers don't already have a hard enough time understanding the difference between Wii and Wii U...

RedRocBoy

#5

RedRocBoy said:

This is insane. Reggie needs to this, they need to go full boar with advertisement they got the price cut coming and the games have are starting to roll out. TV commercials will do wonders for the console specially if they show the entire console and not just the box peeking from behindvthe Gamepad. Come guys your on the right track just gotta straighten it up. XD

mystman12

#8

mystman12 said:

Wow, that's pretty bad. How do the news reporters get this stuff so messed up. I can understand them calling the Wii U just a Wii, but 3dees and 2dees?! We've had the DS for years! But everyone knows it's not pronounced the Dees, right, RIGHT?!?! :P

Nintenjoe64

#9

Nintenjoe64 said:

For a massive corporation that has technology 'experts' working for them, I'm surprised that they can't pronounce the most popular console on the market today or know about the least popular console. It's almost like a direct response to Reggie's "it's not the name" comments.

There is no anti-Nintendo conspiracy in the mainstream media, just lots of idiots.

SpookyMeths

#13

SpookyMeths said:

The Dees and the 3Dees: Nearly 200 million sales combined and we still don't know how to pronounce the name.

Reminds me of how much fun I used to have with my PeesToo.

Chris720

#15

Chris720 said:

NintenDees... the next Nintendo handheld, you heard it here first!

Seriously though, how stupid are these "tech experts"? Can't even pronounce 3DS or 2DS properly... just get a 6 year old on there, they'll tell you the ins and outs of that console no problem.

kendorage

#16

kendorage said:

What ever progress was made to get the wii u console out there to the public consciousness was just set back by this abc report....cause I'm sure a lot more people will see this than a nintendo direct or youtube video.

AlexSora89

#17

AlexSora89 said:

Saw this one last night. I was laughing too hard to be mad at them.

Still, this is further proof that there's still a lot of ignorance about gaming. And if that's what happens in the U.S., I can only shudder if I think about the situation here in Italy. [sighs]

Spoony_Tech

#19

Spoony_Tech said:

Who ever comes up with these names from Nintendo needs to be fired! Remember when japan got a name for their system and when it came west the name changed?! I wonder why that was. There is a reason for different names for different regions! Its not hard to figure that out is it?!

Burning_Spear

#20

Burning_Spear said:

The problem is not branding; it's a news writer's inability to read and comprehend a spec sheet. Did anyone have a problem understanding that PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 were different consoles?

Kirk

#21

Kirk said:

@Burning_Spear

Eh, why would anyone have a problem understanding that PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 were different consoles?

It's clear by the numbering system.

For example; I predict the next Playstation console might even be named Playstation 5...

Not the same thing having names like DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS for a series of handhelds (some from different generations) or Wii, Wii U, Wii Mini for a series of home console (some from different generations)...

You can actually see there is a big difference here and that one naming convention is far more likely to cause confusion than the other, right?

In my opinion, Nintendo should just go back to calling all their consoles Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), it was and still is a perfect name for their systems (even more so in this day and age where they really are more broad "entertainment" systems than ever before), and just start numbering them.

ajcismo

#22

ajcismo said:

I can't believe NoA PR didn't have anyone on hand to make sure things got said/pronounced correctly. Makes both companies look foolish.
No wonder the mainstream media thinks all gamers only play CoD on their Xbox's and Angry Birds on their phones.

Denver

#24

Denver said:

@Spoony_Tech Yes. Gaming systems fail in the West always when the name doesn't change outside of Japan. Just look at the Game Boy line, the original DS, the family of PlayStation consoles.

You do realize that back in the days of the NES, names changed as a result of circumstance right? If we got the "Family Computer" in America, it would not have changed any consumers' minds after the video game crash of 83, as "Family Computer" pretty much screams "another games console". "Nintendo ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM" symbolized setting apart from previous consoles, as it included games involving the Zapper and R.O.B. Now "SUPER Nintendo Entertainment System" was merely just the same name for the pure sake of familiarity at the time. Sega's "Genesis" was named so in America for the sake of competitiveness, that it was proclaiming itself as possibly the true next step for games.

Yes, there is a reason for the occassional name change from region to region, but your claim that there is an absolute cause-and-effect between that and a system's success, is disproven by the mere statement of it alone.

Mk_II

#25

Mk_II said:

oh please... as if changing the name now would solve anything! It would probably only increase the confusion. Time to move on.

Spoony_Tech

#26

Spoony_Tech said:

@Denver never siad they all need to be changed but NA and Europe need to chime in when they think there might be a problem. When Wii U first came out (the name that is) many warned Nintendo of the confustion that might create. Did they listen, no. They had plenty of time to re-think the name but didn't. There is definitly a marketing problem at Nintendo and it shows daily!

They're a big corperation and pay people to figure this stuff out. They're either taking it in as advisment or completely ignoring it. Either way someone needs to be fired!

MAB

#27

MAB said:

My old man would call the Megadrive a Hitachi... My dad also watches ABC news so go figure ;)

SpookyMeths

#31

SpookyMeths said:

The problem with the naming schemes goes beyond reading comprehension.

Pretend you have never heard of a Nintendo system before. Identify which generation the following systems belong to:
DS, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS

It's gibberish.

Now place these by generation:
PS, PS2, PS2 Slim, PS3, PS3 Slim, PS3 Super Slim

And not a single consumer worldwide was confused.

sinalefa

#32

sinalefa said:

Well, at least they pronounced "Nintendo" correctly.

Goes to show how much mainstream media really cares about Nintendo

Guitardude7

#35

Guitardude7 said:

Ok....as much as Nintendo might suck at naming things at the moment.....this isn't their fault. That journalist wasn't even TRYING.

Brunwulf

#37

Brunwulf said:

Why Nintendo didn't use the success of the DS brand for naming the Wii U i have no idea. IMO it should have called it the Nintendo HDS, it works as Home Dual Screen and as a play on for HD DS.

Luigifan141

#38

Luigifan141 said:

Why am I not credited? :P

Untitled

So people stil know that there is a difference between the Wii and the Wii U, right Reggie? XD

NintyMan

#39

NintyMan said:

That was probably the dumbest thing I'll hear today. The DS brand has been around for nine years and has sold millions of units and yet this "tech expert" can't pronounce it right. No wonder the mainstream media is so ignorant about Nintendo. As much as Nintendo likes to stick with tried and true names like DS and Wii for their new consoles, this might be a case of journalism just being flat-out lazy. Better marketing by Nintendo to overcome this ignorance would still help, of course.

Burning_Spear

#40

Burning_Spear said:

Too much is being made of this naming thing. The Spear likes Cheez-its. I walk into the supermarket, and there are like a dozen different varieties. They all have the exact same red box with the exact same picture of Cheez-its, but each has a little sash across it that describes the flavor. I have a functioning brain, so I understand that they're different and I search for the flavor I like. How can a person see "2DS" and "3DS" and not comprehend that there must be a difference? People clearly understood the difference between the DS, the DS Lite and the DSi XL. Nintendo's problem of late is that its marketing is terrible to the point of negligence. Too many people don't know that these new products exist. The console could be named Sex Anytime Anywhere and it still wouldn't sell because it hasn't been marketed well.

WiiLovePeace

#41

WiiLovePeace said:

"You youngsters with your two-dees & your three-dees! Grrrr, back in my day we respected our elders! Oooooooooooo"

rjejr

#42

rjejr said:

Sounded like an SNL skit.

At least she didnt mention the Sept 20 date for the price cut that was in all the papers. What kind of stupid company annouces a price drop 3 weeks in advance?

Kirk

#43

Kirk said:

@Burning_Spear

Go ask your grandma which order these go in and see what she says; the DS XL, DSi, 2DS, 3DS, DS, DS Lite...

Ask you grandad which one of these is the newest; the Wii U, Wii Mini or Wii...

Now ask either of those two which order these go in; Playstation 3, Playstation, Playstation 2, Playstation 4...

Prepare to be enlightened.

Burning_Spear

#45

Burning_Spear said:

@Kirk My grandma and grandpa aren't buying video game systems. If they wished to, they would go to the store and ask a clerk for assistance.

SethNintendo

#47

SethNintendo said:

@rjejr

Most Americans probably would need about 3 weeks to save up for a Wii U in between paying bills and living paycheck to paycheck.

Still not the smartest move but they should have announced an ambassador program for those who buy one before the drop. I'll be a little upset if I don't get something similar to 3DS. I missed out on that program since I bought after the drop. So far only thing that I can get special is the digital promotion (forgot about the 30 cent VC promotions...). However, it appears there are no plans so far for one.

http://wiiudaily.com/2013/08/no-wii-u-ambassador-program/

Kirk

#48

Kirk said:

@Burning_Spear

"if a person is able to read and comprehend at a third-grade level."

Asking a store clerk is not the same as it being intuitive and clear which is the newest from a range of consoles sitting on the shelf simply by looking at the names or quickly skimming the boxes.

You can't just morph what you originally stated.

Next you'll be adding in that if they read IGN, surf the gaming forums and watch the Nintendo Directs all this stuff is so obvious.

Hey, guess what, if you tell them in advance what the correct order is they'll also be able to figure out which is the correct order too!

As if by magic!!!

THINK about it...

What does the word "Playstation" tell people who don't know anything about the system?

It's a Play Station.

What do the letters "2DS" tell people who don't know anything about the system?

It's a...

What does "Playstation 2" tell people who don't know anything about the system?

It's a Play Station and it's the second one.

What does "3DS" tell people who don't know anything about the system?

It's the next "thing" after the 2DS, right?

Wrong.

What does iPhone...IT''S A PHONE!

Now, what does "Wii U" tell people who don't know anything about the system...?

Nintendo's names are not transparent to anyone but people like you and me.

Sony's are far better in that respect.

Now, calling something a Nintendo Entertainment System (1, 2, 3, etc) on the other hand...

That's pretty self explanatory.

yenly

#50

yenly said:

my take on it : double Dees and triple Dees with the Wiiz new "con" "troller"

Wilford111

#51

Wilford111 said:

If there's one thing that annoys me, it's this sort of thing with Nintendo's new consoles.

Jazzer94

#52

Jazzer94 said:

This is what happens when Nintendo relies on the media to describe their products to consumers, which in turn creates confusion.

WinterWarm

#53

WinterWarm said:

This is what I meant in the Reggie article about publicity. This is definitely the wrong kind.

MAB

#54

MAB said:

This is why the VITA is struggling... What in the hell is a VITA anyway?
Untitled
OK now I see... This product has been taking away all of Sony's sales that's why it's failing ;)

CrabGats

#55

CrabGats said:

ohhh my god I just want to slap these people right now.

come on, Nintendo. get it together. clearly the public is uninformed.

Tasuki

#56

Tasuki said:

See I knew Reggie was wrong when he said that the Wii U name isn't the problem.

I-U

#59

I-U said:

No excuse here. Nintendo can use better marketing, and people can use more intelligence.

element187

#60

element187 said:

So its Nintendo is at fault becaue ABC is full of idiots???

@SethNintendo I have no sympathy for my fellow American's money troubles. They voted for another 4 years of unemployment and massive debt.... They can sit in and spin for all I care at this point.... thankfully my job isn't going to be affected by another 4 years of fascism.

SmaMan

#61

SmaMan said:

I think we should all take this with a good grain of salt.

Speaking as a broadcast journalist/producer, in your average news outfit, and this goes especially to the big four, not a lot of time/resources go to "video game journalism." (notice how this was squeezed into their "TechBytes" segment) This is most likely the work of one producer who wrote this, and quickly sent it to the prompter for this anchor to read.

As much as I'd love to say the big guys like ABC have a fact-check team, they probably didn't even touch this one. This is one guy's misguided assessment of the story. Does this excuse Nintendo? No. But in a world where the 3rd console in a series is called "One," you can hardly blame them.

PokemonManiac

#62

PokemonManiac said:

I feel a little bad for her about the dees part. Not everyone follows gaming but was it her or the script that said wii instead of wii u?

King47

#64

King47 said:

They used a clip from the 2ds clip, they pronounce it 2ds there not 2dees. Same for the 3ds.

dadajo

#65

dadajo said:

Sigh, this is why the playstation brand works well in that sense since they just add a number to the end and you can tell the difference. I love my wiiu but if it were to get a new name like wii2 I think it would be for the best. Also, though I was not even alive yet I think there was probably also confusion from going to the nes to the snes. Similar names hmm?

rjejr

#67

rjejr said:

@SethNintendo - "Most Americans probably would need about 3 weeks to save up for a Wii U in between paying bills and living paycheck to paycheck."

Americans "live" paycheck to paycheck - rent, utility bills, food; but they "play" - eating out, vacations, toys - on their credit cards.

I bought my Gamecube the day after it turned $99, which was the day it was announced it was dropping to $99. Sony dropped the Vita in Japan and it sold well that week. The Wii U would have sold this weekend - even if it is Labor Day - if all the news organizations covering this would have said those 2 magic words - "effective immediately". I really can't comprehend the delay.

scrubbyscum999

#68

scrubbyscum999 said:

I don't like ABC but really. Can't pronounce DS? After the line has been out for like NINE YEARS and hundreds of millions of units? People wonder why gamers view the outsiders badly, this is why. Also, Iwata needs to get his translator and see this.

AJTsuki

#69

AJTsuki said:

She was just reading a teleprompter that used ALL CAPS. She saw the "S" in 3DS as a pluralization. The sad part of that was she didn't know enough about Nintendo's handheld systems to identify them properly.

bngrybt

#70

bngrybt said:

This has nothing to do with Nintendo branding. It's what happens when a news organization hires someone based purely on looks and not knowledge of the subject they're reporting.

Gioku

#72

Gioku said:

Oh god, I don't even want to see this video... just reading about it was bad enough... just take it away! :O

Darkness3131

#75

Darkness3131 said:

Maybe they just need to hear Iwata say it in a Nintendo direct.....

But in all seriousness, Yes its possible that the average gamer is not informed but really? The 2DS is in the same lineage as the plain DS and I have NEVER seen anyone say that one wrong. The reporter and the station just need to do a better job of knowing what they are talking about. The Wii U is a bit different, but I still think that its a small percentage of people who don't know that its a different console by now.

LittleKing

#77

LittleKing said:

There's only half a dozen machines with names that are even remotely difficult to pronounce. Next she'll call the PSP the Pees Pee, or iOS 7 Eye Ohs/Eee Ose Seven, because they were all capitalized and she couldn't recognize them.

Whoever chose to prompt the 2DS dialogue needs to be taught how to read. "2DS, an entry-level dedicated portable gaming system that plays all Nintendo 3DS ... games in 2D." Straight from Nintendo. Hard to read all that text, I know. It was so long, they obviously skimmed it and missed the fact it's 2D.

I couldn't care less about the Wii U's name not being used. Nintendo's third console will probably be the Nintendo Mii and U, Happii: Wii.

However, regardless of the stupid names Nintendo has picked, they are not as bad as Microsoft's XBone.

TrueWiiMaster

#78

TrueWiiMaster said:

Sigh. People, especially people in a position of authority, shouldn't talk about about something unless they know what it is.

Skeet102

#79

Skeet102 said:

it sad to say but this is partially microsofts, sonys, and nintendos fault. unless you are a hardcore gamer, everyone (including the press) thinks that the wii is no different from the wii u, the 3ds or 2ds is no different from the original ds, the xbox360 is no different than the xbox 1, and the playstation 4 is the same as the playstation 3. P.S. really bad pronunciation fail by news people. also its not lower resolution graphics, it just cant play games in 3d.

WitchSugoi

#80

WitchSugoi said:

Sorry, but this woman is a dingbat. I read about more things then I actually watch/listen to and first time I saw the DS name I pronounced it correctly in my head and each successor afterwards. There's no apostrophe there to punctuate that the "D" is a possessive. No matter how little she knows of gaming, I don't understand why she would have that problem.

OorWullie

#81

OorWullie said:

@Kirk While I agree with some of what you're saying,your logic is flawed.I'd agree that the Wii brand may be causing confusion but the DS range always started with the DS so by adding extra letters after it would be obvious to most it was just a continuation of the DS range rather than a brand new console,the DS XL is self explanatory,and they all didn't sell too badly did they!When the 3DS came out,just by adding the number in front,it explained it's hook while still coming across as an actual new console.The 2DS on the other hand,yeah that mixes it up a bit!.

On your point about it being better to explain your machine within the name like Playstation and iPhone,what does Wii,XBOX 360,Galaxy S range etc mean to those not in the know?All have sold well so it doesn't just come down to that.The Gamecube was a self explanatory machine and look what happened to that! The average consumer,no matter how clueless they may be aren't going to just hand over 100 + quid on a machine without at least finding some information about it if they're confused.

Kirk

#82

Kirk said:

@OorWullie

Dude, WTF?!

Seriously!!

I'm simply saying some names are clearly more self explanatory than others and it obviously makes more sense to give your devices names that are self explanatory rather than names that are nondescript.

How is this even a matter of debate?!

Are we SERIOUSLY having a F'N debate about this?!

OorWullie

#83

OorWullie said:

@Kirk You ask "Why are we seriously having a F'N debate about this?!" well if you're gonna leave your rather large opinion stating it like it's fact against another poster who I happen to agree with while at the same time coming across as an obnoxious .... then expect a response from someone giving you their opinion back,in a civil manner of course :-)

Pro-N-Gamer

#84

Pro-N-Gamer said:

What a fail..... It's a Wii U not a WII!!!!!!!! >: ( it's like calling Link Zelda but not that worse..

tanookisuit

#86

tanookisuit said:

THis kind of goes to show the ignorance of the non-knowing gamer type. I've bumped into this enough with fools thinking the '32 GB Tablet' is just an addon for the Wii and not a real new WII U system. This is squarely and 100% Nintendo at fault for refusing to run an actual set of commercials on prime time television showing it's new hardware, new games, new stuff and new features like that TVii type stuff it can do. The pinheads did it with the two asians and the dumpy smart car for the Wii, and they need to do that again or it'll keep staying obscure.

OorWullie

#87

OorWullie said:

@Kirk Since you're going to edit your previous comments,where you contradicted yourself instead of offering a civil reply I'm not going to waste my time.As you said before you you decided to edit it "Dude, this isn't a complicated discussion",why d'you feel the need to offer such a large opinion on it in such an uncivil manner.Away back to designing your 2DWS lol End of!

Kirk

#89

Kirk said:

@OorWullie

"You ask "Why are we seriously having a F'N debate about this?!" well if you're gonna leave your rather large opinion stating it like it's fact against another poster who I happen to agree with while at the same time coming across as an obnoxious .... then expect a response from someone giving you their opinion back,in a civil manner of course :-)"

My God.

You don't even understand that the "question" you're responding to is rhetorical.

ALL of the "questions" in my last response were rhetorical.

Are you really that...?! (also a rhetorical question)

For Christ sake!

drumsandperc92

#90

drumsandperc92 said:

this is the FRICKEN PROBLEM! Nintendo, you are starting to do some good here with the 2DS and the Wii U price cut.
And you've ALWAYS done great as far as branding to separate your systems, until this generation.
The 3DS, at first glance to many consumers looks like a DS. Granted the 3 in front of the name suggests a successor, but I've met people who were confused by it.
And of course, the Wii U name was a total flop.
No one I've met except a few friends understood that it was a new console.
My girlfriend didn't even get it until I spelled it out for her. Then, she didn't get the point! So I showed her a commercial. Still didn't get what the point was to the new system...
You NEED to do better marketing here.
On a side note, this reporter is totally ignorant. On Tech Bytes? Really? You aren't even going to know that it's D - S, not Dees? After a decade of the DS being out?
Lower resolution? Wii vs Wii U?
This woman has no clue what she's talking about and shouldn't be reporting about it, no excuse on the news. But that being said, there is a problem with the branding right now....

WesCash

#94

WesCash said:

Nintendo's naming system is somewhat of a catastrophe to be honest. Reggie was fooling himself when he said it wasn't an issue.

Meaty-cheeky

#95

Meaty-cheeky said:

I have been complaining on here for months, about how Nintendo named their console the Wii U was a terrible idea. I personally don’t know anyone at the moment that actually owns a Wii U. I have three friends that on Wii’s and 3DS’s, but none of them own or care about Wii U.

Nintendo needs to remarket and resell the Wii U as if it’s a brand new system. Nintendo needs to rebrand the Wii U with a name change like “The Wii2 or Super Nintendo 2” next re-launch the Wii U with some new colors like blue or silver, and with that also bundle some games inside the box, like Nintendo land + Wonderful 101.

Meaty-cheeky

#96

Meaty-cheeky said:

@WesCash

I know I can’t believe Reggie thinks that the Wii U name is not a problem, so many people don’t even know that the Wii U even exist and everyone in the non-gaming community thinks that the Wii U is just simply a Wii. Also the Wii U’s design looks to identical to the original Wii.

Nintendo has made so many mistakes with the Wii U its unbelievable, but at least they know what they’re doing with the 3DS.

DualWielding

#97

DualWielding said:

to be fair to Nintendo Xbox One is even a worst name and is not affecting microsoft at all. However the whole DRM controversy may have helped them, now everybody knows that xbox one was the console that was supposed not to play used games but now does

FJOJR

#99

FJOJR said:

Nintendo hyping the Gamepad has got many people thinking it is an accessory to the Wii rather than a part of a new system. The Gamepad is all right but I still think is unnecessary. What happens with the next Zelda game? It'll just play like Wind Waker but with a screen which isn't exactly mind-blowing. Skyward Sword's motion control may not see an evolution anytime soon.

Zombie_Barioth

#104

Zombie_Barioth said:

One of the biggest news companies out there flubs the names of your products and you don't think branding is an issue? Not that ABC is the most relyable news group out there but obviously you don't want a news show broadcasted to millions of people spreading misinformation and confusing the audience. Its not like she was the only one thinking that was correct either since it got the green light.

Its not just people here that think the branding is an issue either, its not something that can't be fixed but its not self-explanatory enough to not need clearification. I've even had to explain to someone that the 3DS isn't just another version of the original DS. So clearly the names aren't as self-explanatory as some people might think they are.

Vincent294

#106

Vincent294 said:

Wow. This is the people who "inform" us. I definitely will be avoiding ABC News. They're anything but intelligent. There's so many mistakes it's pathetic.

Captain_Gonru

#108

Captain_Gonru said:

@rjejr There is an argument to be made (not a strong one, mind you) that, by announcing it ahead of time, you don't have the pissed people who bought it the day before the UNannounced price drop complaining about ripoffs and such. Now, while you lose some sales for the next three+ weeks, you have the good will (and hopefully three weeks of money saved up) of a fresh user base heading into a very competitive holiday season.
P.S. Ever get your HDMI situation sorted?

Yoshis_VGM

#110

Yoshis_VGM said:

@3DSAllDay What's even funnier is that the cat has a Yahoo inbox pulled up, and this was a Yahoo video. xD

Anyway, this is absolutely ridiculous...hey, lady! Ever heard of doing a little BACKGROUND RESEARCH before you publish a story???

retro_player_22

#111

retro_player_22 said:

They should had just call it Wii Revolution (a longer word) instead of just Wii U since people could easily ignore the U. When Nintendo went from NES to Super NES, "Super" was a word people didn't forget, imagine if it's called NES Y or NES X or NES and a letter of any of the alphabet, people could easily just call it the NES as it was and ignore the one letter thus treating it as more of an upgrade to the original rather than as a next gen successor. Fortunately Nintendo could had easily just gotten away with it if they called it Wii 1080 or Wii HD or Wii something other than just Wii U.

TheAdza

#112

TheAdza said:

The branding while clever is just so problematic, no average person with little to no experience is going to know what sort of 3DS game is going to work on what system now with the 2DS. Worst idea ever Nintendo. I really hope this 2DS version just tanks it. It's so anti consumer.

JaxonH

#113

JaxonH said:

@Brunwulf
Wow. That's actually a really good name man! Well done.
The Nintendo HDS, the new High Definition Dual Screen console

AtelierFan

#116

AtelierFan said:

@Sinister
IMO, Nintendo should (have) named the WiiU simply the Nintendo. And followed it with a marketing catch phrase like "bringing gaming back" or "it's always been about the games", offering a WiiU in NES colors to announce the return of Nintendo to their gaming roots to entice the so called 'core gamer' (which they did on the Wii, IMO, with games like Donkey Kong, the various Kirby games, New Super Mario Bros Wii, Sin and Punishment, etc.). Or something.

antdickensAdmin

#118

antdickens said:

Oh man, Nintendo PR must of loved that piece... how can you get ALL the names of the products wrong? >_<

rjejr

#119

rjejr said:

@Captain_Gonru - "There is an argument to be made (not a strong one, mind you) that, by announcing it ahead of time, you don't have the pissed people who bought it the day before the UNannounced price drop complaining about ripoffs and such."

But you do have the pissed people - everybody who bought it the 2 or 3 weeks before the announcement who can't get their $50 refund via the price match they were promised when they bought it.

2 scenarios -
1. $50 price drop effective immediately - people who bought it the past few weeks are momentarily PO'd, but then return to store to price match and get $50 back, or decide it isn't worth it. Meanwhile all the news coverage gets people into the store buying WiiUs and Pikmin 3 and Rayman Legends and whatever else they want. In the end everybody wins.

2. Price drop in 3 weeks - people who bought it the past few weeks are annoyed they didn't wait, become even more annoyed when they realize they can't price protect to get their refund, people go to store and online to buy Wii U only to find out the price drop doesn't take effect for 3 more weeks. People plan to go buy 1 in 3 weeks. Meanwhile Rayman comes out, W101 comes out. PS4 and X1 get more news coverage, people forget about Wii U while waiting for price drop to take effect. (Well those waiting for the Zelda bundle won't forget, but they may forget about Rayman and W101 when they go play Zelda.)

I realize the above 2 scenarios border on gross exaggeration but are based on thorough thought and truthiness. The 3 week delay defies logic.

Pokemon Rumble U works on 720p only, not 1080p. I'ld return it - it's only 3 weeks old today after all - but I already transfered my Wii stuff and I'm afraid to lose it. Any more problems though and it's going in the mail back to Nintendo.

Senario

#120

Senario said:

Sounds like this person really isn't a "Tech expert" and is really just there to read off of a teleprompter. Badly too. It is so much better when somebody who is familiar with what they are reporting on is able to report it.

I understand the Wii U problem, but at this point getting the DS brand wrong is absolutely unacceptable. I mean it has been around for 9 years and sold a TON of systems.

Sonic128

#121

Sonic128 said:

Nintendo's console names haven't been all that original as of recently. This could be a problem.

NamkyuLee

#122

NamkyuLee said:

@Kirk A 3DS tells me what it does somewhat. DS and DSi are the only ones that really don't make sense. Oh, 3DS... sounds like 3D. 2DS makes sense when looking at 3DS. The order they come in can be confusing, but most places don't sell DS's. I haven't seen a DSlite in a retail store that often. and If you have someone you're buying for you have obviously asked them what they want or try to make it explicit exactly what they want. Purchasing a game console is a lot of money and parents don't go throwing money at consoles if they're not sure which is the one their kids want.
TBH I haven't heard of anyone actually mixing anything up about the DS line except for DSlite vs DSi, and that was because they never heard of the DSi, and stopped playing video games after it's release.
So yes, the DS franchise and the Wii line have a few bumps for an outsider to understand which one is the newest, unless if they did any kind of search, broad or specific on the internet, or really if they went into a store like Target or Walmart, go to the electronics section and ask the person behind the desk for help picking out a game device for their child. That person will surely point out which one is newer and such.
Also, the PS line is also flawed now. the original Playstation and Playstation 2 had advertising as Playstation. But now PS3 and PS4 are mostly shown after ads. I rarely see anything with Playstation 3 written across it. That should be the same thing. What is a PS3? The third PS? What's a PS?
And it's the same with any other sony game system. PSP???? PSVita??? Do those actually tell you what the system is for? What is Vita?
It's just insane to say that the name is what hinders success of a product. And just because the naming might be confusing doesn't diminish the fact that the reporter pronounced the name wrong of the 3DS and 2DS, and screwed up about the WiiU. It's her fault for messing up something she reported, not the companies for naming something a bit different to separate it from the rest.

Giygas_95

#123

Giygas_95 said:

A little research first, people?

2Dees, 3Dees, Wii instead of Wii U...that all made me cringe.

TheLilK98

#125

TheLilK98 said:

This just shows me that they must all be silly. Come on now, the system is selling like crazy and you can't even pronounce it? Whoever produced that segment has to have a masters degree in either trolling, lack of research, or donkeys. This is so ridiculous I'm not even going to watch the video.
if you're not watching the video, please at least watch your language — TBD

kyuubikid213

#127

kyuubikid213 said:

No. This isn't a branding issue. This is a bunch of journalists being total idiots. You could figure out the proper pronunciation of the 2DS/3DS the fact that it's a Wii U through a two second internet search.

Nintendo's issue (as I've said already on a post like this) is games. The Wii U needs more games. End of story. More games and possibly bring those four guys back that did those 3DS ads. As for the 2DS/3DS pronunciation, I can't wait until she gets fired or something for telling their viewers about the Psfour and the Ksbox One.

allav866

#128

allav866 said:

I work at a gas station, and my store sells Super Mario 3Dees... but they're 3D gummi snacks, not gaming systems.

Captain_Gonru

#129

Captain_Gonru said:

@rjejr Again, I didn't say it was a strong argument, or even one I agreed with. More trying to reason out the thinking that went into it.
Further, an "immediate" price cut would have been worked out ahead of time, lest the Best Buys and Targets of the world lose $50 per unit, given that those units would otherwise have been purchased with the $350 price tag in mind.
The other consequence here is that no one who is paying attention to all this will be buying a Wii U for three weeks (bundle or otherwise). Meanwhile, those who missed the memo will have no leverage to get angry, because "hey, we announced it three weeks ago."
Really, the moral of the story is, whenever a price goes down, someone loses. There is no really good way to do this.
As for potential problems, I've found that Hulu likes to freeze up. Sometimes just for the program you're watching, causing you to have to reload it. Other times, it locks up the whole system, which is my personal favorite. It happens often enough that I a) have a running thread on Miiverse about it, and b) moved my Wii U onto it's own power strip, so I can just flip the switch. But, as it only seems to happen with Hulu, I'm giving Nintendo a pass.

rjejr

#130

rjejr said:

@Captain_Gonru - That sucks about Hulu Plus, and seems less a Nintendo issue than a Hulu issue.

Im nearing the end of a free month trial of Redbox Instant and all I can say is dont bother. Unless you want to watch all 3 Bad News Bears movies, thats all they have worth watching.

Gregor

#131

Gregor said:

Somebody smack this beotch. If we get the Hyrule Historia and touch her with it will she burn?

StarDust4Ever

#132

StarDust4Ever said:

For everybody in favor of the Play Station 1234 naming scheme, it does get pretty redundant after a while. What if Nintendo did that?

Nintendo (NES) - Nintendo
Super Nintendo - Nintendo 2
N64 - Nintendo 3
Game Cube - Nintendo 4
Wii - Nintendo 5
Wii-U - Nintendo 6

Game Boy - Game Boy
Game Boy Color - Game Boy 2
Game Boy Advance - Game Boy 3
DS - Game Boy 4
DSi - Game Boy 4.2
3DS - Game Boy 5

Nintendo's biggest error is lack of advertising. They advertised the crap out of Wii and stores couldn't stock it for over a year. I've yet to see a Wii-U commercial and sales have been abysmal. However, I am enjoying mine! ;)

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