There's little getting around the fact that key Nintendo Switch details are being leaked. While there are plenty of bogus 'rumours' doing the rounds, a few key reports (some with sources we've verified in recent months, in various ways) have been sharing details around the system's line-up of games; we've shared reports we have trust in.
One of the reporters we have confidence in is Laura Kate Dale, who primarily publishes through LetsPlayVideoGames and occasionally shares through social media. She's shared a summary of key Switch launch details based upon her sources, while acknowledging that some are from a single source.
If you don't want to go further because of potential spoilers, stop reading now.
Some of the details reiterate previous rumours, some are new and perhaps only from one source. As stated previously, we have some faith that there are solid sources being consulted in these cases. That said, they're still rumours and not final details; it's also possible that the sources in question, even if they are insiders, have limited or out-dated information.
In any case, you can see the summary below; we've posted a bigger version underneath the embedded tweet.
So, what do you think? Does all of this seem feasible, or are you unsure? Sound off in the comments.
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Now we know why it's called the Switch. All their Wii U games are making the Switch onto the new console.
So far I've heard of:
~ Mario Kart 8
~ Super Smash Bros.
~ Twilight Princess HD
~ Wind Waker HD
~ Pikmin 4
~ Super Mario 3D World
~ Xenoblade Chronicles X
~ Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
~ Splatoon
~ Super Mario Maker
~ Zelda: Breath of the Wild
And even some older games like Skyward Sword.
honestly, sounds fake to me
All looks good to me if true. Really need to hear from the horses mouth though so I won't get my hopes up!
Damm, let's hope they add some things to smash 4, maybe snake, konami is supporting the switch on the third party list
How would Mario Maker work on the Switch?? It could work when playing with the tablet, but what about on the TV??
I want to hear the real thing.
I hope the XCX port is true. I'm currently playing the first one, and I don't have time to beat both before the Switch launch.
When is the switch direct?
A Xenoblade port makes me all excited, hopeful, and frustrated. As a Game Collector, I want to buy Wii U games soon since they will be cheap, but if they are coming to the Switch, why bother, the Switch Version will be improved.
But I also want to play the improved Xenoblade port before I start the game....and perhaps the more obscurbe and popular titles will be ported as well (I AM LOOKING AT YOU TOKYO MIRAGE SESSIONS!).
On the point of the ports, we should all see this coming, its an easy way for Nintendo to have a strong launch and add value to quality games that were largely overlooked due to the Wii U's instalbase.
As long as the pikmin reboot isn't 2d, I'm fine with it
@NF6429 January 12th 2017
Could be like an open world collectethon, like banjo kazooie, except you have to utilise pikmin to get the items, with each pikmin having different abilities
@Aaron09 thanks
I'm no psychiatrist, but I would advise her family and partner to give her a bit more attention. Everyone deserves love and understanding.
Before you know it, we will all be predicting Switch release dates!
for smash bros how should they improve it, or what new features should they add
I really hope they have more launch games then what's listed. They need no less then 10 diverse games with the hopes of up to 15 or 20.
@SuperBaconKid
Possibly the JoyCon.
Though spot for Nintendo. I own most of the rumored ports on Wii U and am torn on whether or not I should get them again... I know it should be a win win in theory because people who don't have Wii U can get them on the Switch, and those who already have the games aren't required to buy them again, but I feel like I need them so I secretly wish Nintendo wasn't porting them D:
Also didn't XCX sell terribly? The price plummeted quickly after launch, and it's already below $30 on the second hand market at only one year old.
@rjejr
Come and see. Here's your Pikmin 4, here's your Beyond Good & Evil 2. Here's your Xenoblade X. Here's your Skyrim. Here's your Bayonetta and Cloud Amiibos.
And here's your Zelda delay 😂
Seriously though, it's a smart move to port the top five Wii U games to the Switch during the launch window. Im down for Xenoblade X all stuffed onto a tiny little cartridge. Hopefully fix some of the pop in.
But having a 3D Mario, the new Zelda and an HD Pokémon Stars is a winning combination. That's their three biggest franchises with the most appeal. Just having a real Pokémon game playable on the TV in high definition, even in HD on the go for the first time, it's going to be fantastic.
I never got into Pokémon until now, I'm playing Sun and it's so much better than X/Y. Fantastic game really.
ports are a good thing, no one played the wii u games. no one even knows the wii u exists.
If XCX gets a port I hope they make a number of improvements to it, like re-balancing the audio in cut-scenes, fixing the font size, improving the party selection screen so you don't have to track down party members each time, adding a time change option to the menu rather than having to find benches/base camps, changing how the augment and crafting system works so it doesn't require as much grinding to make even basic things, improving inventory management, improving party AI so they don't run off ledges into water they can't fight in/into lava...
And that's not even getting into hopes of adding to the story/post-game content.
(I did like XCX, but for all the places it stepped forwards from the first game, it stepped back a lot as well. Also someone really loved the visual of the party standing covering their faces as some kind of blast rushed by when it came to cutscenes. XC's were much better than XCX's.)
To be honest, I think this rumor's true. Sounds like a perfectly Nintendo line-up with a mix of safe releases (ports, Just Dance) and wildly crazy things (Mario X Rabbids, Pikmin Reboot).
Also, to go completely off-top for a second, what happened to that Tank-based 3DS game from the September Direct. I don't know, that just randomly popped into my head.
Xenoblade X on the move would be incredible. The game lens itself well for quick bursts of gameplay. I hope Square are working on a port of FFXV.
@NF6429 There's a lot of things they could do to improve Smash 4.
Here's my personal idea:
They can use ideas from the ballot for characters. Maybe 6-8 new characters at most, though. Wolf, Snake, Ice Climbers, Rayman, King K. Rool, Isaac, Inkling. All of them probably scored high on the ballot. For modes, Target Smash needs to return. Put Smash Run and Tour on the same console, or create an entirely different game. There only needs to be a few more new stages. If they do something along these lines and make all DLC available from the start, they have given me a reason to buy the same game for a third time.
So far no reason for me to get a Switch in 2017. All of the games that I'm interested in, I have already for the Wii U (except for the 3D Mario, but I don't mind waiting for that one, and Zelda of course, but I was already planning on getting it for the Wii U).
@jimi Mainly in the performance and looks department.
Looks fake, sounds fake. Again, they're using recent info we found from other leakers this week. It's a common pattern among them; one person makes a fake leak, the others follow to further "authenticate" the leak.
Hmmm, more Wii U ports than I expected so taking with a grain of salt. Still, with so few Wii U's sold it would be good for those who wanted to play Wii U exclusives but didn't want to buy the console (but want a Switch).
The Beyond Good & Evil exclusive would be very surprising as it would really ruffle the feathers of fans of the original who own a PS4 or X1.
As for Xeno X port; the lack of the Gamepad could be problematic as it was great having the map there plus for the probe deployments. Also will defo need to solve text size issues due to smaller screen. The best they could do is perhaps add an extra chapter or two to continue the story! Something many of us who completed it REALLY WOULD LIKE!!!! If that was included it'd be a Day 1 buy; but please give us the ability to copy (not transfer; COPY!!) our saves over (although I think I have a backup on my ext hard drive).
@MentalFear @plug313 Both of you shouldn't be so quick to judge. And also consider the fact that she was one of the main sources for EuroGamer and she certainly has correctly predicted nearly everything concerning the Switch so far.
So, even though this is only a rumor, I'd seriously consider the possibility of it being not that far from the truth.
Well, that would be disappointing if it were true, so it might be real XD
If its true then its not impressive at all. Xmas holiday purchase at the earliest for me.
@EllenJMiller
Ya that would be nice. I do hope they see to at least some of those issues.
But honestly, even if they don't, I'm still stoked to have that game in the palm of my hand. I waited all generation just for the original XC to be playable on the gamepad. And that wasn't even HD or playable outside a range of 50 feet. This is my dream right here.
@3dsgeek333 comment #35 applies to you too...
@ThanosReXXX I think there's a fair chance of it being true as ports seems like the only way Nintendo would be able to reduce game droughts.
This is faker than the moon landing
@jimi They can assign the map on a special button. I am currently playing Xenoblade X and I find it hard for the developers not to be able to do what many games have already done. Piece of cake. Only asynchronous games will have a hard time being ported to the Nintendo Switch (Nintendo Land for example)
A Xenoblade Chronicles X port with enhanced features/graphics would destroy my life. XD It's my most-played game ever, I think.
Just gimme that 3D Mario game in Wii u if possible
"Mario Kart 8 Port (Minor additions)"
I have no problem with Wii U gems, such as MK8, being ported to the Switch. They're brilliant games that need a second chance to be looked at and played.
Also, I keep thinking if MK8 is a port with minor updates, will the updates make it's way to the Wii U version? Will you be able to play online against Wii U owners with the Switch? If they can realize those two things, that would be awesome! That would bring in more competition to a very competitive, but limited, group. Wii U and Switch owners competing on line would be awesome. A win-win for all Nintendo owners. New and Old!
Well if it's true....that's a very lame release window. Ports and Pikmin? Bleagh
It's the Wii u all over again
I am hoping a Monster Hunter will not be far off also =)
Oh! Nintendo is overseeing availability on the rabids thing. That's comforting. Maybe no one will be able to find it.
Well... if this comes to be the truth, we will have just 4 Swith games in a full year. REALLY not interesting at all.
Aside for the Mario game, if you own a Wii U there isn't really that much incentive to buy one in the first few months.
If it's true I still hope all those "ports" will be heavily upgraded versions of those games with more contenent.
I know Nintendo want and need to gather to a different audience and lost fans, but a ton of straight ports are not really that interesting for Wii U owners, it would be as if Nintendo is trying not just to forget about the Wii U, but also about those who supported it DX
Zelda: BotW - Demo in development
YES PLEASE
A lot of ports though.
@EllenJMiller Damn, I have the game for the Wii U, but only played it like for an hour. I didn't think the game was that bad ai wise and QOL wise.
@jimi Yes, I also own a Gaming PC, Xbox One, New 3DS, Vita, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, PSP, DS etc etc, Im a game collector, I own a bunch of different platforms. No need to be hostile about it.
The Gamepad really only affects controls and UI, there is nothing stopping these from being re-worked.
Ouch with all the ports. I really can't see how this lineup will bring Nintendo success. I'm a Nintendo fan and there is no way this is convincing me to get one at launch.
I wouldn't mind a Pikmin remake. But I'm probably the only one who thought that Pikmin 3 looked amazing but otherwise wasn't as good as the first 2.
@cleveland124 The argument would be, you don't need convincing, as a Nintendo fan you will be getting one at some point (see Wii U). Its everyone else that does.
@zionich
I'm thinking Monster Hunter will definitely come to Switch.
This is a leaked list, so it won't have everything. It's just more of a general idea of what we can expect- of what they know of so far.
For example, we know Dragon Quest XI is coming and it's not mentioned at all. I think Monster Hunter XX, like DQXI, will see a dual release on Switch and 3DS.
Pretty poop lineup unless you actually dislike new games.
Makes it easy to pass on the console year one.
Yeah Nintendo screwed over the Wii U. Every game is getting ported so you have to buy them again for improved versions. Thanks! You took all the bad aspects of the Portstation 4.
If these ports are for real, the improvements MUST come via patch to Wii U.
@Warruz
Pretty dissapointed with the way Wii U played out. Earliest I get a Switch will be Christmas. But with that lineup is making me think I might wait a while longer. At least for a price drop.
I mean the question Nintendo is asking is if I'll pay 360 for a new mario. I will not.
If this is the launch line up I can't see it doing too well. Nintendo fans already have a Wii U and therefore most of the games. Only people desperate for new Mario will get it to start with.
@JaxonH I really am hoping for a Monster Hunter XX Switch port come January.
I see Nintendo is fallowing Sony and MS releasing ports if true
get us that zelda demo for day 1 and i think you'll see more enthusiasm than without.
That late Zelda is making my 3DS feel so much more Awesome, no need to rush through my backlog of RPGs
I think this is possible but I don't want it to be true. ALL of the good Wii U games are being ported; makes sense but still hugely insulting to Wii U owners like me.
Far too many ports, should only be 5 max in first year. I understand that they are trying to get more out of these games but it seems a bit much for the first few months. Makes me wonder what Nintendo's development teams have been doing all this time as I thought the lack of Wii u software over the last couple of years was due to them creating new switch games.
Are the recent Telltale games any good? Last one I played was Strong Bad and LOVED it! I'm a pretty big fan of Guardians of the Galaxy...
@Enigk
"Only people desperate for new Mario will get it to start with"
Not necessarily true. If the system is only $250-300, everyone but the jobless and homeless will be able to afford it day one. Most people who work aren't gonna want to wait 1-2 years just to save $50 on a price drop (except @rjejr but he's a completely different breed of gamer)
The ports won't appeal as much to Wii U owners, except for the fact they'll be playable portably now. Playing Xenoblade X on the go, for example, or Mario Kart 8, is pretty awesome. Skyrim on the go is certainly amazing. Thankfully I'm only a couple hours in on the X1 version.
But ya, my point is, we're talking about a $250 console not a $20,000 car. Unless you're cheap broke or living on the streets there's very little reason to wait. If you know you're going to buy it eventually anyways you might as well get it right away because you're getting more bang for your buck that way. The fact every game is also available to play as an HD handheld version also makes everything more appealing. It's like getting 2 games in one for every purchase. That's why I've always been a huge supporter of the idea of the hybrid.
I bought Dragon Quest Builders on PS4 for $60, and on Vita for $40. World of Final Fantasy on PS4 for $60, and on Vita for $40. So it's costing me $100 every time I buy a game to get it playable on the TV and handheld. Was even true for Wii U and 3DS games. I'm really liking the idea of buying the game once and getting both versions, and no uploading/downloading for cross save.
I doubt we'll see ports of "Xenoblade Chronicles X" or "Super Mario Maker" considering how important the GamePad features are to those games. While it is possible to play Xenoblade on one screen, that's a much more awkward and less user friendly way to play.
@LegendOfPokemon Well they are trying to appeal to the people who didn't buy a Wii U and bought a PS4 or XB1. They'll get a chance to get the best of the Wii U, while getting the same games that the Sony, and M$ will get increasing the chances they'll buy a Switch.
Mario Rabbids RPG sounds fake and weird to me.
@JaxonH You're assuming it's going to be popular with everyone then. Most people I know have Wiis gathering dust or have sold them as they are casual gamers. They are of the once bitten, twice shy brigade. I just don't think it will appeal day one to non Nintendo fans. I will get one when there are enough games to justify buying it. It isn't a price issue as such but buying a brand new console to play 1 game is a touch excessive for me. Once a full comprehensive release day list is out I may change my mind.
@FX102A They'd be silly not to include a save transfer/copy, as I'm sure many folks like me haven't finished the Wii U version yet and would consider finishing it on the Switch (if it happens).
@Warruz that's true. Seems like it's for the Nintendo fans.
A random nobody has typed up a list in word and expects everyone to believe it is true? It's just a collection of the various rumours that have been floating around recently.
It's just another people trying to get their 15 mins of fame online
@Vegaphil Creating mobile games of course!
Cannot believe people still listen to rumors in the internet lol. Xenoblade x is not coming to the switch. Come on people just wait 1/12/2017.
Well if that's nintendos line up then it's very poor!
@MrGawain I'm with you, other than an agonizing wait for Zelda (if summer is indeed true) there is no need to get for a Wii U owner to immediately get a Switch, even by year's end next year. I'll likely buy Zelda on the Wii U anyway, even if there are some huge differences between the two, which I doubt.
Like I said in an earlier post, this line up is to appeal to all the people who solely went either PS4 or XB1 this generation. Its sad to say, but third party games is what's gonna see any sizable move from either of these two consoles.
@Turniplord Laura Kate has been on point that last few rumors and even had a PS4 Slim before it was revealed by Sony.
@Turniplord This "random nobody" is ex UK editor at Destructoid, has written for Polygon, The Guardian, and a bunch of other places, and is widely known and well regarded across the games journalism industry. Currently operates LPVG, a new site which nonetheless has been a huge part of reporting on Switch details from inside sources at Nintendo and Ubi - and by the way, knew what the Switch was called and that there was a 3-minute trailer coming 24 hours before Nintendo announced it, so I'd say pretty solid sources. Also reported on the PS4 Slim and physically got hold of one to prove it existed before Sony announced it.
Just because you personally have not heard of somebody does not make that person a random nobody. The world does not revolve around your personal social circle.
@therealgamer Not like there is anything else to talk about.
@Warruz loads of people had slims before they were released. Here in Manchester there was about 5 on gumtree a few weeks before the announcement which led to official leaks as eurogamer went and recorded it in use
@Warruz So what anybody can make up rumors be right 50% time. Also PS4 slim will happen any way because sony always make a slimmer version of thier consolses.
Well the ports make sense since many gamers missed out due to not wanting to buy a Wii U or thought it was just an assessory for the original Wii, but I just hope Nintendo don't get TOO carried away with ports. Sure, it will fill some schedule holes that past consoles have had to deal with, with we do need a good amount of brand new titles as well.
Guess that'll be up to the 3rd Parties to deliver and whether they still wanna play ball after the launch too....
@Enigk
Well I don't know how it'll pan out, and you're right about Wii owners. But then again I think a lot of Wii owners would be open to buying a new console, if it caught on in popularity.
I don't think they should be going for that demographic though. I think the PS4/X1/PC gamers should be their target. And it's hard drawing in PS4/X1/PC gamers with games they can already play. The appeal of Nintendo has always been games you can't play elsewhere. I think the ports are smart and as much as they are taking the full appeal of the 8th generation and slapping it onto the Switch in the first six months.
And if that means a more successful console then I'm all for it because the more successful console would mean more games at the end of the day.
But I think if you just look at the 3D Mario, Zelda Breath of the Wild and Pokémon Stars, and just look at it through the perspective of the full force of Nintendo's top three franchises, that's a pretty strong combination to bring to the table year 1. People have been saying for as long as I can remember if they would only put a real Pokémon game on consoles it would sell as well as their handhelds. We're about to find out (even if it is already released on 3DS, it'll still be a definitive upgraded HD version of games less than a year old).
The Pikmin 4, the Mario RPG crossover, these are games that a lot of Nintendo fans will be interested in. I have no idea what that RPG will end up being like but I know I love Mario and I know I love RPG's and I definitely love Mario RPG's, so there is potential.
@Raylax yeah but all she had there is a document she has typed up of all the recent leaks. I don't see what's new about this? It's like if I got all the rumours, typed up, made up a few things about games being delays and presented that as coming for a 'source'.
It's all very pointless, we have all head these rumours over and over
@Turniplord sigh, see @Raylax's post for a more detailed overview of who she is.
@therealgamer sigh, see @Raylax's post for a more detailed overview of who she is.
@therealgamer More of a fact they it was in their hands before it was even announce, which pumps up the street cred.
@ThanosReXXX That would kind of mean that Wii-U owners get the shortest end of the stick, (severe understatement), since they'd have only few games they didn't play, and would be expected to buy the same games they've already played.
@Nin10doh Yes we do but Nintendo fanbase is cancerous. We have alot of games coming soon to the wii u and 3ds but you idoits want to PUT ON THE SWITCH. Darksiders remaster - PUT ON THE SWITCH, Stardew Valley - PUT ON THE SWITCH. Yookalee - PUT ON THE SWITCH. I WILL NOT GOING TO BUY THE SWITCH IF ALL THESE PORTS COMING. MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL.
@Grumblevolcano That would be one of the reasons, indeed. But also consider the fact that not an awful lot of people have played these games, because of them not having bought a Wii U, so what are remakes to most of us, will be completely new games to them.
And it's a good thing that these games get a second chance, so that they finally get the attention that they deserved in the first place.
I really have to laugh at all the numbskulls wiping this off the table as fake, though. Apparently, they have no idea how much Laura Kate Dale has already predicted correctly, so we should at the very least keep an open mind about this and consider it to hold some truth, if not be completely true, like everything she correctly predicted about the Switch itself.
But I do expect quite a bit more myself as well. On this list, I'm missing the titles promised by EA, I see only the already known titles from Ubisoft (outside the Mario/Rabbids RPG, but I can't imagine that this will be all from them) and I also still miss the probably also to be released Switch port of Call of Duty, the Dragon Quest games , something from 2K Games, Capcom (Monster Hunter and maybe something else), whatever Retro Studios is busy with, something from Platinum Games etc.
So I'm also expecting something from those parties in the near future as well.
The January event might very well be filled to the brim with games. This list here doesn't seem to be long enough to fill an entire presentation.
@Turniplord I'd say nobody can be that thickheaded, but at the very least inform yourself on who someone is and what their reputation is before making baseless assumptions.
@therealgamer Unfortunately for you, she's been 100% right so far. She was EuroGamer's main source of information and has correctly predicted everything about the Switch so far, so don't be so quick to judge.
@Warruz don't really care - point stands - what's new? Just a collection of recent rumours.
@Turniplord As @ThanosReXXX said "Laura Kate Dale has already predicted correctly, so we should at the very least keep an open mind about this and consider it to hold some truth, if not be completely true, like everything she correctly predicted about the Switch itself."
IT sounds more like your issue with this is that they are rumors, period, when thats all we are going to get until January.
@ThanosReXXX "Unfortunately for you, she's been 100% right so far. She was EuroGamer's main source of information and has correctly predicted everything about the Switch so far, so don't be so quick to judge."
And also I am a real game developer is making a game right now for the wii u. My game is coming out next year for the PC and Wii u. Also if Wii U is dead and she is 100% right why Nintendo did not give some indie devs like 13AM Games, drinkbox studios the sdk? Explain how Laura knows more about the switch than we do? Explain to me that?
@InternetBowser The list isn't taking 3rd party support into account. Well, not all of it at least.
I really doubt this is everything we'll be getting. This seems like just a bare-bones list to me. There very well could be other first party games coming in the first year, and I'm absolutely certain we'll get more 3rd party games than this. Not that this is incorrect, but I think the people saying "Oh nur, this is all we're getting, the Switch is doomed" are passing judgement a little too quickly.
@therealgamer Don't lump me into this. I've been trying to get this site to realize that Dragon Ball: Fusions will be released next week (some people already have early copies in the states) for a good while now and all I see is Switch stuff. The only game that looks interesting to me is Zelda, and I'll be buying it for the Wii U.
The Switch is only intended for Die Hard fans, and those who went to Sony or M$. While I'm no casual, I tend to buy games that can last me a good while, possibly even a whole generation if I include the 3DS.
@UmniKnight That depends, there might be some kind of discount deal available for people that already have these games on Wii U. Maybe a trade in or something, or maybe the option of downloading a digital version to the Switch by means of a proof of purchase of the Wii U version.
And of course it is also to cater to people that never had a Wii U and to people that did have a Wii U, this is to make up for there not being any backward compatibility.
@Warruz I'd spare myself the trouble. Even with logic, there are some people that would rather remain ignorant and thickheaded instead of informing themselves before making their thoughtless comments.
I guess what I find annoying about these ports... Is that they are such a middle finger to Wii U fans. The people who stuck by the Wii U are now also stuck with old versions of games. Put in a situation where we don't know whether to get the new versions or stuck with the old ones.
Would need more new games than just Mario and Zelda in the first six months to be good, at least as far as I and I assume other Wii U owners are concerned
@Warruz no issue with anything. Just find it stupid the amount of people coming forward saying 'my sources say this...' When it's just a copy off what other places have said.
Well done to the people claiming leaks are theirs I suppose
@therealgamer
"why Nintendo did not give some indie devs like 13AM Games, drinkbox studios the sdk"
Ask Nintendo, some Indie devs obviously got Switch Kits. Just see Image Form.
@ThanosReXXX I see your logic about people not having a Wii-U, and the part of backward compatibility, but as a Wii-U owner with many of these games, I can't help but feel, well, kinda shafted really. Unless the discount part you spoke of is true/there's enough extra content to justify it. And even that doesn't take away that you're getting, for the most part, less games then if you didn't bother buying a Wii-U. Makes me feel like buying the Wii-U was a mistake.
emily rogers and most of these rumors are just guess. They doing this to hyping the system up and getting click bait. Remember emily rogers said Mother 3 going to the wii u at e3 2017. Where is that? Remember she said there is going to be a female link in Zelda breath of the wild? Guess what...............SHE IS WRONG. Of course ign, Nintendolife, other nintendo websites will still believe her. emily rogers is not a DEVELOPER. SHE IS ALWAYS WRONG.
@DoctorOverbuild @UmniKnight
That's how it is for all systems. Take PS4 owners for example. All the top 1st party games ported from PS3 and Vita. The Last of Us? Check. Uncharted? Check. Uncharted 2? Check. Uncharted 3? Check. God of War 3? Check. Tearaway? Gravity Rush? Check and check.
And let's not even get started on the 3rd party games. And it's the same for Xbox One. 9 ports from Gears and Halo alone. It's just how it is...
So it's not a middle finger, it's just how things really are. Game development is expensive nowadays and games have to sell as much as possible. And when the next generation arrives, you'll see all the top PS4 games ported, all the top Xbox One games, and all the best Switch games.
No matter what console you by nowadays you're going to get ports from the previous generation. Development has become too expensive for them not to do so. All the more so when the source platform was a misfire.
@Warruz yes some indie devs but I just saying that Switch is not replacing the Wii u. There is more games are coming out next year. You people are complaining there is not else play, wii u is dead.
@DoctorOverbuild Nintendo is in this for the money, not to give all their fans love and kisses just because they bought their doomed console. There are some quality games on the Wii U, and leaving them on their doomed console that only a few million people bought would be foolish.
My biggest fear is there's too many ports. If you already own a Wii U then what's the incentive to buy a new system only to buy those games again? Plus as awesome as Smash, Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Xenoblade and Mario Maker are, they didn't help sell Wii U units. So why would people who didn't buy a Wii U to play those games buy Switch to play those same games?
This list seems based on what she currently knows. Obviously, it's an incomplete list. It also doesn't account for all of the 3rd party games.
We'll have to wait until the presentation in January to see the full lineup. Regardless, it's a pretty good lineup so far I think.
If the system is just Wii U ports, I'm just gonna Switch to Xbox.
@dazzlerJJD The difference is that Wii U was a thoroughly unappealing product that people didn't want, while Switch has appeal.
@Vegaphil
The ports would be good if used as schedule filler. But way too much of a lack of original content. I want Mario only. All the Wii U ports I either have or passed on for a reason.
Also mario maker is getting another port LOL LOL Who the hell believe these rumors lol
@therealgamer Just because you're an indie game developer, doesn't mean you have more access to information than anyone with real access to information, and why should you get a Switch dev kit if you're developing for the Wii U?
If they have given out dev kits, then indie developers will certainly not have been the first people to get them anyway.
And calling out Emily Rogers isn't going to help your reputation either: she doesn't have the same access to information as Laura Kate Dale has. So far, she has been 100% correct, and that is all there is to it.
You can stand on your head for all I care, but you're wrong and you have no proof to the contrary. And to be clear: I don't even LIKE the fact that she's been 100% so far, because this is so not what I wanted "code name NX" to be, but now that we know that she was correct about all of it, we have to move forward and look at what the positive things are about this system.
And we must also acknowledge the people that have correctly predicted what the Switch was. And the only sources that did that were EuroGamer, IGN and Laura Kate Dale. All other sources, INCLUDING Emily Rogers, largely piggy-backed off of those sources.
@IceClimbers Agreed on that list not being all there is. I listed the other parties that I'm also expecting to see on the Switch in it's first year in comment #97.
@InfernapeKing97
If the system was just Wii U ports I don't think anyone would buy it. I certainly wouldn't. But that's not going to be the case. Nintendo is not going to make a brand-new system and only put ports on it. This is just a case of making the system more appealing right out the gate by putting a handful of the best Wii U games on it for the launch window. 13 million Wii U owners aside, this is a cheap and easy way to get an appealing library, and fast, for everyone else. But it's not going to be everything on the system and I seriously doubt it will extend past the launch window.
@dazzlerJJD
The same reason people who didn't buy a Vita would possibly buy the games on PS4. Just because they weren't enough to sell one system doesn't mean they can't help contribute to sell another. There's a lot of other factors that play into whether somebody buys a console or not.
If Switch launches at $250 rather than $350 like Wii U, that alone is going to increase demand (simple economics). Then you have the added allure of every single game being played able in high definition on the go in addition to being playable on the TV like a normal console. That's going to increase demand as well. If it has a slicker and faster UI, better online, more 3rd party support, all that is going to increase demand too.
So then you have to ask the question, having these extremely highly rated games help or hurt the console? Would they add appeal or not? And I've never seen a situation where critically appraised games did not help console's appeal to sell. Particularly to those who have not yet play those games.
Laura said this? Woman hasn't been wrong before,so i trust her.
@Turniplord Well, aren't you the adult person? You call me sad, even while all I said was that you are thick-headed, which in the context of this article, you are. (I'll ignore the "nob" part, because that is too pathetic to mention. Oh, wait... )
I actually don't think I'm what you describe, but what I actually am doing, is informing myself on topics before I make baseless comments. You're the one calling the list fake, but you only base it on the fact that there are more rumors out there, so these must "surely" be fake as well.
But in doing so, you are completely ignoring the fact that all her predictions so far, pertaining to both the Switch and some games, have been 100% correct. They aren't MY predictions, they're hers, and she's been right so far, so at the VERY LEAST we should consider this list as being pretty close to the truth, at least where it concerns first and second party titles.
There really isn't anything strange or unrealistic about believing that, contrary to just ignoring that list because it is just a rumor for now...
And by the way: compared to some, my life is anything but sad and little, so I'll enjoy it all right...
@ThanosReXXX Since you seem quite convinced that Laura Kate Dale is correct, and you've spoken in length about the Switch being rather powerful, then what of her saying in this post: http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/ that Emily Rogers is right about Switch' specs, being these: https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/
Rumours?!, Yeah, moar Rumours! XD
oh well, ..., since that Nintendo revealed Switch, many rumours more have appeared, specially of that person (Laura), but well, only 1 thing for me is totally true, January is official reveal information, then, to wait that date.
@UmniKnight Of course I was just speculating, but there might be something they'll do towards Wii U owners, or not: after all, it is Nintendo we're talking about, but I think that some of these titles may come in at a lower price or something. Guess we'll find out in a couple of months. Ample time for us to start a petition if the end result is less than desirable...
You gotta say it it's the blue hair thing, she got it going down.
I love a brace chick who's happy to show it off, and all those followers. She must be a happy girl..
But to be honest I wish she would shut up and stop trying to get something from shovelling outright or wrong information. It's getting boring now with all these kind of people, roll on the 12th Jan for a bit of reality.
@ThanosReXXX Bring some good old fashioned Dutch Klompen with you during a negotiation instead of a petition. Have them walk around on a few of them and make sure they're deliberately a smaller size than their actual feet, that should make them want to cooperate.
For those wondering...
Here are the list of ports that have been rumored:
Mario Kart 8
Splatoon
Smash Bros Wii U
Mario Maker
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Dragon Quest X
Here are the list of new games that have been rumored:
3D Super Mario
Mario X Rabbids RPG
Skyrim Remastered
NBA 2K17
One or two "bigger" EA game(s)
Just Dance 2017
Zelda Breath of the Wild
Telltales Guardians of Galaxy
Pikmin 4/Reboot
The Silver Case
Sonic 2017
Dragon Quest XI
A new IP by Retro Studios
Pokémon Stars (not really new, but not really a port either)
Nobunaga's Ambition
Beyond Good and Evil 2
Seems like an appropriate ratio between ports/remakes and new titles that have been rumored so far, given that we still probably don't know most of the new games coming out for the Switch yet.
@ThanosReXXX not only are you a sad little individual but you also can't read. I never once said it was 'fake' - I said there is nothing new and it is all stuff that has already been circulating as rumours - so all she is doing by posting that is trying to claim 'ownership' of the rumours. Which is stupid.
What if the guy in charge of eurogamer went on Twitter with a hand written note saying the same things - will people instantly believe it is all 100% correct and he was the one who got the info first and because it's him then it must be true? No, I don't think they would, unless it was someone like you who seems to think that anyone who works or worked in online gaming news knows everything that is happening with companies they don't work for.
Chances are it will be true - but most of the guesses aren't really hard to guess based on how Nintendo work and what was in the trailer.
I'm guessing you googled the woman's name before you originally replied to me and read her wiki or something - I didn't bother because the article itself should have stayed who she was if they wanted us to actually care about what was being said
SKYRIM on the go is enough for me.
@UmniKnight Well, to be honest, if you just look at the facts, then we don't need an awful lot of convincing to see that she was right. Fact is that she was, there's no way around it whichever way you look at it.
And Emily Rogers was later than Laura Kate Dale with most of her rumors. And the article you cited also specifically states that she has other sources than Emily Rogers, and her sources are correct so far. Emily Roger's sources have been hit and miss on numerous occassions: Mother 3 in NA, full voice acting in BotW, female selectable character in BotW and so on.
Laura Kate Dale is yet to be proven wrong on anything she has recently said.
@UmniKnight I'm American. I live and work in Amsterdam, but I don't wear clumps. And I don't live in a windmill with a garden full of tulips and I don't have a fridge full of cheese either...
@ThanosReXXX True, but doesn't that contradict what you've been explaining yourself in another thread, since it does seem like Emily Roger's specs would mean the Switch is rather weak in comparison with what you've mentioned?
@ThanosReXXX Heh, but I've seen you comment that you are half American half Dutch, hence why I'm assuming (yes rather precarious of me isn't it) that you'd know about klumps. Could've been that I've overlooked it, if so my bad.
Don't worry about the stereotypes, I'm Dutch myself, and the windmills are more a rarity these days, especially in my village.
I don't know if I believe the list, but if it's that thin and the launch window has that few third party titles they're going to have EXACTLY the same problem moving systems as they did with the Wii-U.
I guess everyone missed the fact that this is only what she currently knows, know a 100% complete list.
People need to realize that Laura Kate Dale's list of Switch titles is INCOMPLETE and consists of games that ONLY SHE KNOWS ABOUT. This list will NOT be the Switch's entire 2017 lineup. Far form it...
For example, games like Dragon Quest XI, NBA 2K17, an EA game or two, and Nobunaga's Ambition have been confirmed for the Switch, yet are missing from that list.
@Turniplord Look man, I have no desire to let this discussion derail into something ugly, so I'll try to react to you in a normal manner, ignoring the condescending tone you're setting in your previous reply.
What I got from your initial comment is indeed that you're saying that she is simply collecting older rumors and claiming them to be her own, which isn't the case because she has verified all she has claimed with her own sources.
I also didn't just Google her name; I have been reading her tweets and articles ever since it was revealed that she was the main source behind all the Switch rumors from EuroGamer.
And if you have any qualms with her not being adequately introduced in the article as a well known person with a reliable record on rumors, then contact the OP, instead of blaming other people that actually do know who she is.
No offense, but If you're a regular here, you must surely have seen her being mentioned before, especially during and right after the reveal of the Switch.
@UmniKnight My mother is of Dutch decent, hence the half-Dutch.
No desire to be wearing clumps, though: far from comfortable. I've tried them once, just for fun but my feet didn't agree with them...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE out for st Patrick's day 😬😂
@ThanosReXXX Of the things she's mentioned, I haven't seen much positive though, except for the dock being more than Nintendo is letting on.
@UmniKnight True, it's all a bit underwhelming so far. I do like the Switch now that I'm more accustomed to the idea, but it was not what I was initially expecting at ALL.
Luckily, we've only got a few more months to go to hear more about it. I can't imagine that this list is all. Some have already commented that this is a list of what is known so far, which I also agree with.
So many third parties missing that have already said that they would bring out titles and some of them are even confirmed already. I mentioned the ones I could think of in comment #97.
@ThanosReXXX For some of those games, I wonder if the Switch will be able to secure the right kind of audience that those games demand (such as CoD). That aside, I'm hoping Nintendo still keeps some things to themselves, so when Jan the 12th rolls around, they still have some news to tell. Leaks and rumors are fine and all, but it kinda ruins the event itself if you're sitting there watching it and thinking "Knew that, knew that, yes, go on, knew that"
Can't see any exciting 3rd party software that might lure gamers who've either strayed from Nintendo or might be drawn in by the portable aspect. Hmmm.
@Dakt I stand corrected. I've done a search as well, and what I found is that she and her team at LPVG compared sources with EuroGamer, and these sources corroborated the rumors from both of them, thus reinforcing the truth behind them. So they more or less came to the same conclusion separately, and then compared notes to find out that they were actually on to something.
Either way, the main point was that I was trying to emphasize to a number of people that it is a fact that she has been right so far and therefore what she says should not been taken lightly or deemed complete nonsense, like so many other rumors.
Grain of salt, yes but not nearly as big of a grain as with other sources.
Beyond good and evil 2 kreygasm!!! If that happens it will make the console for me.
@UmniKnight Well, even if we do find out that this list is true in January, I still think they could surprise us somewhat by how some titles will look. How will a completely new Pikmin look? And the new Mario Kart? The one we saw in the video was only a place holder edited in afterwards. As we have learned from one of the actors that was interviewed, the actual units in the video weren't even operational.
So, pretty much as expected then. This won't be it though, this will be the first party efforts while third party will fill it out a bit (dunno why people would assume otherwise), as well as a few other bits we don't know about (and nor does she).
I hope that Nintendo gives people an option for a discount on ports for original owners if they do just end up as optimization for a new system with some additions. It'll feel kind of frustrating if they add a whole lot to them and/or eventually cut the online functions of the Wii U and then have you want to pay the full 60 bucks a second time to benefit. Also, if Pokemon Stars really is real, it'll feel rather crappy to have a superior HD-resolution version of Sun and Moon come out in potentially less than a year after the originals. Stars should've been announced already if this was the case. Hopefully it'll be more like an alternate story to the game or something (A Smash 3DS/Wii U like situation would be really neat!)
@dew12333 "Here's my list of rumours based on unfounded bull and easily predicted speculation so I can desperately scrounge your attention."
Get lost, hen.
@Mega_Yarn_Poochy She knows nothing, though. She's an attention seeking social parasite. An empty husk of a thing.
@jimi
You're kidding right?
1 Better online! Comparing WiiU's online between Xbox1 and Ps4 even 360's online is like night and day.
2 Annoying gamepad controls that hampers gameplay fixed. Granted Not all of the games have this issue but.....
3. More content for your favorite games. You've been dissatisfied about MK 8's battle mode and a lack of more characters and modes in Smash huh.
4: better graphics and performance for your games. Duh!
5. Portability and LAN capabilities thanks to the Switch. Duh!
Of course feel free to stick to the WiiU games if gamepad controls are THAT important to you. If Nintendo handles the ports correctly, the gamepad free controls outta be a necessary evil.
How about waiting for an actual official announcement? All this gossiping and backstabbing does nothing to help anyone.
@Dakt LKD and Let'sPlayVideoGames didn't just have one thing right, but a whole lot.
This article lists all of it:
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info
And there was also another source: IGN's Peer Schneider, who's sources also independently corroborated what the Switch was.
I'm not surprised by all the ports (if this turns out to be indeed how it will play out), but like I said before, those ports are not going to sell me on another system, in fact nothing on the list has/will.
On the hand, if there was a way to carry my previously bought game overs in one fashion or another, thus instantly turning the likes of Splatoon and Mario Kart for example, into 'mobile' games, then that would be an incentive of course.
I'm not going to rebuy them though.
Well, I have nothing against these rumours, I'm actually hopeful for some of them being true, but I'm still going to go ahead and call BS, save for the games shown in the Switch reveal. I'll wait till January for Nintendo and Co to officially announce the "actually happening".
I, for one, am excited for the Switch line-up (except for the Mario/Rabbids game, though I'll keep an eye on it). Also this is a list of games that she KNOWS about. There's a sure chance that there will be more games for the Switch's launch.
@JaxonH It's a Sunday afternoon in November and I'm a middle-aged blue collar white guy, guess what I'm doing? Here's a hint, NY 22, Chi-town16.
I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on the Zelda delay as we all know they said "at launch" and "March" but then they hit Google with that Men in Black red light and nobody can prove anything. As long as Wii U gets it same day and on disc, I don't have room to download it, I'm good. We'll as good as anyone can be with a 18 month delay. (I know I lost that 2 year argument with you, but it's looking like 18 months if it's "summer 2017" from "2015".)
And yes, I'm cheap, and strange, but in today's world there are more of me than you regarding buying every console on the market day 1. And for most people waiting for later won't be for a $50 drop, it will be b/c everybody will be gaming on X1S and PS4 they just got for Christmas. Switch will have a great launch, Wii U did 3 million I think, but like 3DS it will slack off until Christmas, that's when most people buy hardware. Zelda in summer won't help much as its also on Wii U, and those fans are the ones who buy at launch.
BG&E2 as an exclusive looks promising, but 2018 on that one. Maybe we'll get a Switch holiday 2018.
If Pikmin 4 is a reboot or remaster than correctly or not as far as I'm concerned Pikmin 3DS is Pikmin 4 and then this is just a remaster. And I don't need a Switch for that, I bought my Wii U for Pikmin 3.
And unlike all the crazy port haters on here, I'm fine with all the ports. I didn't buy them on PS4, I won't buy them on Switch either. Wii U sold 13.5 million, mostly to Nintendo fans who will also buy the Switch, the ports are for the PS4 and Xbox One owners from 3 years ago who don't want PSVR.
@ThanosReXXX What do you estimate the chance that Nintendo may or may not be spreading these rumors/leaks on purpose and that some of them could very well be false? I've heard someone say that, apparently Nintendo has Laura/Emily etc on follow on Twitter, which would at least mean they know of all of these.
There are a lot of ports, which at first makes it seem like it's fake. But if you think about it, it actually makes a lot of sense because these are critically and relatively commercially successful games that couldn't reach their full potential because of the super low install base on the Wii U, so I understand why Nintendo would want to rerelease them. Chances are these games are going to sell like hotcakes because not many people owned the system they originally released on, so for them they'll be buying the games for the first time.
Nintendo usually hate people leaking stuff.
Have they not watched Game of Thrones? Do they not know the standard way to catch people doing this?
@ThanosReXXX Well your being very pragmatic defending 1 of your 2 nemesis today.
@UmniKnight Well, it is highly likely that at least someone at Nintendo is following what is said about them on social media, but if they are also actively spreading false rumors? I don't know about that one. Seems like a bit too much trouble to me and somehow, it also doesn't seem like something that Nintendo would do. But who knows?
@Dakt The multi touch isn't denied by Nintendo, just not commented on. It seems highly likely, though. And the dock adding some power seems likely as well. Not in a sense of the dock itself containing some extra brains, but more along the lines of a detection system, that let's the handheld "know" it is inserted into the dock and that could trigger an overclock mode, so 720p and passively cooled on the go, and 1080p/60fps and fans switched on when docked. That could make a considerable difference in performance when playing on the TV.
@rjejr Laura Kate Dale was never a nemesis, unless you're talking about EuroGamer. I'm just accepting facts and moving on. It isn't the outcome some of us hoped and desired, but it is the factual situation, so now I'm looking ahead at the possibilities instead of bemoaning what could have been.
@rjejr
The Pikmin 4 was labeled a "reboot" not a remaster or remake. There's a difference. If it was a remaster I might agree (although I'd still buy it because the original Pikmin is amazing and I'd die for an HD remake).
I think Zelda in summer, as much as I don't like waiting (lets be honest I don't really care, I've got so many games to play I really don't get bent out of shape over when games release), I think it's smart.
Wii U released in November, had a great launch, but then nothing to pick it back up for 9 straight months. If you really analyze what they're doing you'll see the strategy. For one, they're releasing in March. They don't need the holidays to have a bang out launch month. So then let's say it sells like hot cakes March and April, then comes May with the sharp decline. Well, that's where Zelda comes in. July release right after e3 (so they can plaster the walls with it and say "available in 1 week!") and that picks Switch back up for a month.
Now we're into August and the countdown to the holidays. Some big hitters like Pikmin and Pokémon Stars to keep people looking at Switch (especially HD console Pokémon) and a string of the best Wii U ports of the last generation all hammering one after another leading up to Christmas.
Then holidays come and a nice little library to advertise (3D Mario, Zelda and Pokémon + the top 5 Wii U games of the last generation) and bam Christmas seals the deal.
It's a smart way to keep momentum rolling without experiencing that 9 month lull Wii U saw.
Supposing these rumours are true, I see no reason for me to purchase the Switch in the first six months if basically all we are getting from Nintendo is Wii U ports.
What about Retros game? Also i don't mind tne ports as long they make new content as Nintendo simply cannot afford to waste 3+ years making new entries of their most popular games ans they need them within the first year of the switchs life.
The 'Ports Of Wii U games' rumor has been going on when the NX was first announced, so this is nothing new. If ONE game that this person states comes out, they'll state that they were right (even if it's just one game from the list) and then people will praise the person, even though they technically just made it up...I'm going to start my own rumor...Zelda Breath Of The Wild will be coming out on Switch! Wow...that will get people following me on Youtube so I can make a few dollars!!!!
Anyways, I really see nintendo re-releasing some of the Wii U games...just to make some more money off of them, but also...especially if the Switch gets a bigger audience...it will allow the people that DID NOT buy or support the Wii U, another chance...plus, if Mario Maker and Splatoon come out...people could still continue doing stuff online, because let's face it, the online support for the Wii U will come to a close shortly after or possibly before the end of the Wii U, or when the Switch arrives.
@Dakt True, but like I said before, all I wanted to achieve is that people aren't so quick to judge, because not all rumor mongers/leakers can be put in the same box.
@N4LIFE I'm sure nintendo has more than just what has been stated for the Switch throughout the 2017 year...they could just be launching ports to get the retail scene, which is what PS4 and even XBONE did for their first year, which is still fine to some people...I didn't mind re-purchasing games for PS4, even though I also owned them on the PS3...gave people another chance to replay them...including the ones who did not purchase the PS3...I think nintendo's just following. One thing that would be nice for them to do, is make a huge collection of NES games bundled together...like Atari did with the games Atari Flashback Classics Vol 1 and Vol 2. It would be nice, even if they weren't all nintendo titles, to replay some of the old classics, instead of having to wait for them to appear on the E-Shop or pay the cost...especially the NES titles that felt like they were lost...Ducktales 2, Chip And Dale's Rescue Rangers, Simpson's Bart Versus The Space Mutants, TMNT 2, Fester's Quest, Goonies 2 and more.
@Dakt I don't really agree, but it's not my site, so all I can do is ignore articles like this or read them and comment on them.
I might be a bit slow to answer from now on, since I'm chatting in a Nintendo Switch live stream right now:
https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Qev9bXgzE&feature=live-chat-promo&pli=1
They are also discussing this list...
@ThanosReXXX In the end, only Nintendo truly knows, and as much as the 12th isn't that far away, I feel that they should've given some info in between. They have a lot to prove, and to Wii-U owners, make up.
@ThanosReXXX In that podcast you're talking about, they've said it themselves. They think Nintendo is misleading people, allowing some of this be leaked out. I think this is the case as well, the rumors will only drive interest for the Switch, if only to know what is truth and what isn't.
People also forgetting both Nintendo handheld & console teams are all making games for the switch, which means a lot more new games probably after the first year release of the switch, until then 3d mario/zelda and whatever else will keep me busy, so the ports don't bother me.
@UmniKnight Join in if you want to discuss this further. I'm going to close this page because I can't multitask this thread an listen to and comment in the podcast.
But I think misleading is a big word. They're just not commenting on stuff, that's all.
I agree that Zelda is no good as a launch game if it is going to be released on the Wii U at the same time.
The new Mario game is what the Switch needs to help the launch.
I would be fine with this lineup as there's plenty to interest me, however, if it's completely different come Jan12th, I'll welcome that surprise. Can't wait.
@EllenJMiller This - I poured a lot of time into both these games and XCX is great. However playing it is also a constant reminder that XC is so much better (one of my all-time favs) in nearly every aspect. I want a new XC closer to the first game and for the love of Zanza bring back the original composers!
Nintendo didn't learn their lesson if this is the real deal. Now they are screwing over their diehard fans because these are games we all have and they will perform better on Wii U in most gameplay features. Anyone who passed on the Wii U is not all of a sudden going to run out and buy a Switch because of a new Mario game and a bunch of games that are a few years old. I sure hope there is something else up Nintendo's sleeve. They will sell a few units off Mario and Zelda alone, but that is not a viable strategy for the future of the console.
Urgh, I so wanted Zelda with the new console at launch, really hope we don't have to wait until the Summer.
Hope there's more Day 1 than that.
@JohnBlackstar
I don't think this was ever implied as being a complete list of every game we'll see in 2017.
This is merely a compiled list of leaked info, what we know so far. It doesn't even include Dragon Quest XI which we know is coming, or the couple EA games which we know are coming, or a host of othered rumored games like Final Fantasy XV or Monster Hunter.
I dont see how games like Mario Maker and XCX could work as well on the Switch without feeling forced or broken...
@JohnBlackstar Seeing as the Wii U will be effectively "gone", and the 3DS will be within a year or two, Nintendo will be able to focus all their efforts on pumping out games for the Switch. The ports will also give them some extra time to do so. I'd say we can certainly expect more games on the Switch than we got with the Wii U, and if it sells well, which I'm pretty confident it will, we'll also get better 3rd party support. Besides, this isn't even a complete list. I'm very confident we'll see many more games than what's listed here.
@LegendOfPokemon I agree, they have no respect for Wii U owners.
@ThanosReXXX I suppose nemesis was the wrong choice of word, but it seemed more politically correct. Let's just leave it at that shall we.
@whodatninja This isn't about respect. It's about money. Nintendo won't just leave their high quality games on the failure that was the Wii U. Besides, like I said in a previous comment, the ports will result in more units sold, and more time to work on new games for the Switch. I personally would have liked to play the games that are being ported over, but I didn't, because I didn't own a Wii U due to the dismal 3rd party support. I'm glad they're being ported over, because I'll be playing those games for the first time, and I'm sure that's the case for many other people.
@Turniplord We can do without posts that are just laying on the insults, thanks.
@rjejr Roger that.
How would mario maker work on the switch exactly?
Too many ports not enough. Bad launch incoming. Do people want a rabbids rpg?
@whodatninja
And Wii U owners seem to have no respect for anyone but themselves. "I got this game on Wii U, therefore no one else is allowed to have it and no one else is allowed to play it or enjoy it". God help us if that's how they did the Dreamcast games which were all ported to GameCube and Xbox. Or the Wii games that were ported to Wii U. Or the PS3 and Vita games ported to PS4. Or the 360 games ported to X1.
I think people need to get over this selfishness, where they don't want anyone else to enjoy these great games without buying the system they bought. Wii U owners got to play these great games for 4 long years, and them coming to Switch does not take away the enjoyment Wii U owners got from them.
If a person is going to get upset and envious that others are going to be playing games they bought their Wii U for, then I hope those same people never buy a port that was on another console because then they are "showing no respect". Don't buy Twilight Princess HD or Windwaker HD, or the 47 ports on X1/PS4, because then you are not "respecting" Wii, 360 and PS3 owners.
@invictus4000
XCX is simple. Just tap a button for the map to show on screen, mini map stays in the corner. Done and done. Yeah the dual screen experience is nice but it's certainly not going to be broken without it.
Mario Maker, same thing, you just move the cursor around the squares with the analog or D pad, like every other level creator in existence. It could even allow touch when you play it on the go. Is it less convenient? Sure, but broken? Hardly.
@gcunit I didn't start it, but whatever
@JaxonH If you wanted to play the games on Wii U, you should've bought a Wii U. Simple as that.
@JaxonH I get your point, but at the same time you cannot fault Wii-U owners for feeling shafted. They bought a console which is basically a "failure", whose third-party support bailed shortly after launch and who, even though they received many great games, is now dead in the water.
More people getting to experience these games is good, I know that much, but at the same time, unless those who supported them on Wii-U get a discount or the games have more content in them, have been left in the cold, and that's anything but fair.
@JaxonH My biggest concern with the March launch isn't really launching in March, it's not launching this holiday coupled with the Wii U having no games worth mentioning as I think Paper Mario released too early - too keep it away from Pokémon probably. If Wii U had some big games this Christmas - Pikmin reboot Zelda U, Super Mario Sunshine HD - then I'd be happier with the March launch. But I think people will be buying a PS4 or X1S this holiday rather than waiting for Switch, which means their Switch purchase will have to wait. If Switch were available now, people could buy it now.
I did think NES Mini was a nice stop gap, have people spend $60 now for a Christmas gift, save money for the Switch, but they didn't make nearly enough. It should have been piled high in stores, in every Black Friday ad for $39.99. But it's nowhere to be found. I've seen several ads but no sign of it.
Guess we'll see. I hope it does well, my kids will get 1, maybe 2, someday, I'm sure of that, but it will be awhile. Guess it's a good thing, if I got 1 for Christmas instead of a PS4 sammyb would have banned me from PS.
Sadly, if this line up is true, i will buy a ps4 pro instead. I dont want wii u ports... at all why cant they build new games. Why not a new fire emblem?
So where are the 3ds ports? haha... That 'leak' doesn't even consider handheld games that the switch will most likely have.
@bolt05 As many people have said, this is not the complete lineup. This is just all that she's heard so far. Wait until the January event where we'll get official news from Nintendo before you decide on anything.
There's no way this is true. The Wii U has been dead since the release of Paper Mario: Color Splash Almost nothing has been released for the Wii U since Star Fox Zero. Is it to be believed that after the financial disaster that has been the Wii U the only new worthwhile game they have to show for the Switch's launch is a 3D Mario title? Especially after having Zelda as the entire focal point of this last E3? I don't think so.
@UmniKnight
Well first, I would question as to why Wii U owners are suddenly dissatisfied with these games they've already played years ago. I don't think anyone's being left out in the cold- I think people who paid for the games got exactly what they paid for. And nobody was dissatisfied with these games before, but now all of a sudden at the prospect of others enjoying these games people are becoming envious. For what? We got to enjoy them years ago.
That's not to say I say I don't think they should offer a discount program, because I do, but even if they don't there's nothing to be upset about. If you buy a AAA game nowadays like Rise of the Tomb Raider, it's $60. Plus $35 season pass. A year later that same game gets ported to PS4 with all the DLC for the same price. Or Witcher 3, which was $60 + DLC st launch, then later the definitive edition with all DLC releases for $49.99. Were people shafted? No. That's just how it is- late comers always get the better deal.
@whodatninja
That's a selfish attitude. Not like they're porting the games to the PlayStation, it's just another Nintendo console. But I've seen the selfish attitude of gamers here when Wii U games were getting ported to 3DS.
But maybe if you want to play Skyrim you should have bought a PS4 or Xbox. Maybe they should cancel that game right now and all other third-party ports as well, and just tell everyone they should go out and buy another system. Simple as that. Or Pokémon Stars. Maybe they should cancel that game and just tell everyone if they want to play it, should have bought a 3DS. Simple as that.
@Urameshi Worthwhile is a matter of opinion.
@UmniKnight Nobody feels more shafted by the Wii U than I do, but on the bright side for me, I don't need a Switch, I own all those ports, I'll be playing PS4 games for the next 2 years. Just like I didn't need a PS4 for 3 years b/c all it got were ports so I enjoyed my Wii U games, now I bought a Slim for $218. I've always alternated Sony and Nintendo consoles every 2 to 3 years, works well for me. Though I don't play any must have now online games, only offline stuff, so timing doesn't matter.
But Nintendo shifting games to Switch shafted us, that's for sure. But there are only 13.5 million of us, not enough to matter unfortunately. Half of us, maybe 2/3 are fan boys anyway and will buy 1 anyway. That leaves only 4 or 5 million deserters. That's nothing. Nintendo will make that one up in Super Mario Run sales.
@rjejr
"4-5 million deserters"
That statement makes a bold assertion that every single fan feels jealousy and envy like you do. You can't complain about games on your console being ported to another when you play games ported from other consoles all the time.
@Urameshi
Of course it's likely true. Nothing about this jumps out as untrue.
Peoples' mistake is then assuming that this is somehow everything that's going to come to the console. This is just what has been leaked that they know about. It's likely 100% true, that doesn't mean it's everything.
It's like if 20 games were coming, and someone made a list of 5 of them that were leaked. That list the five games is 100% true but in no way does that imply that that is representative of all 20. There still 15 unknowns out there
I don't see the problem with this since I think it's good that games like XCX be offered a second chance considering how a lot of these games undersold coupled with the Wii U's small install base. It might seem like ports to a Wii U owner but to an average person it might be seen as a completely new game entirely. You know there are people who didn't even know Mario 3D World existed
While the ports are a good idea on the surface, as there are tons of people whow ould get a chance to play these amazing games, the industry critics would still rip into nintendo for not working hard enough, to create enough new games for launch and first year and relying on old games, and people will take this and bury it in their minds and have a initial negative stigma about Nintendo for another generation.
@dparmar005
Don't think so. A new 3D Mario at launch is huge, and Zelda following right after is just as huge. Everyone loves 3D Mario and everyone loves this new Zelda. Heck it was even voted as the best game at E3 last year. Critics across-the-board are in line to play this game.
As long as they have at least one more major game for Holiday 2017, they'll have released a new 3D Mario, new Zelda, an HD Pokémon (first time ever on console) and whatever else they're releasing (possibly Pikmin 4) all in the first year.
That's something Wii U never had. It got a 2D Mario, a Zelda remake and no Pokémon (though it did get Pikmin 3). It also didn't have the benefit of 5 of the best ports of the previous generation during that first year to help boost its library. I don't think critics are going to be as harsh as you're anticipating. For many of the ports will be a huge plus- even most Nintendo fans never owned a Wii U. Of the 60 million 3DS owners, I'm willing to bet 50 million of them don't own a Wii U. Since they already have an inclination toward Nintendo they are the first market Nintendo should be chasing.
The fact that they are porting Legend of Zelda: BotW, Mario Kart 8 and Super Smash Bros. 4 to Switch instead of making new ones is a clear sign that Nintendo is way off their development creative. Every new Nintendo console should had their own new unique Legend of Zelda, Mario Kart, and Super Smash Bros. titles. I feel like Switch is just going to be another PS4 with slight few new games but with tons of ports and remastered of last gen games. Hopefully they got more games coming in the summer than just Zelda.
Wow... there really aren't a whole lot of new things on that list. Hopefully this is either straight up wrong or that there are a lot of missing items. Hope you all didn't already buy all of those Wii U titles!
I don't wanna be a crybaby but Zelda delay rumour makes me sad
Hm...the titles so far seems not 100% accurate. Well, better wait until 12 January 2017. Btw, I "still" Heard a Rumour...They said that Switch have those titles...
Doesn't sound very exciting, apart for the new Mario and Beyond good and evil 2. Zelda can also be played on the Wii u, and Mario vs Rabbids.....ehhhh, its intriguing to say the least.
Needless to say, this isn't the aggresive move I hoped for. But its Nintendo, it was to be expected. This device won't fly off the shelves if this comes to pass!!
Also the longer Zelda takes to arrive, the more likely it gets that the Wii u version gets cancelled. Please no!!
@JaxonH "4-5 million deserters"
That deserting number has nothing to do w/ the "ports", every console ports, or jealousy or enyv, it has to do w/ the history of Nintendo home consoles. W/ the exception of the $249 Wii Sports bundle that sold 100 million to libraries, aunts, uncles, and old age homes, every Nintendo home console has had a drop off of about 30-50%.
NES 62m
SNES 49m
N64 33m
Gamecube 22m
Wii 101m
Wii U 13m
Here's what it looks like w/o the Wii Sports/Wii Fit Casual gamer console included:
NES 62m
SNES 49m
N64 33m
Gamecube 22m
Wii U 13m
62-49-33-22-13 it's a sloped line down. Statistically speaking if I asked anybody to pick the next number in that line it's probably 8 or 9. And 8 or 9 million from 13 million is a drop off of 4 or 5 million. The deserters are predicted statically, it has nothing to do w/ anything else.
If Switch were a home console, no toast in a toaster, just a box the size of a toaster, 8-9m would be my prediction for total sales. But it isn't, its a portable tablet that will sell not only to the 8 or 9 mil who don't desert - for whatever reason Nintndo home console owners have deserted over the past 30 years - but also to the 3DS owners. I'd say 60m but it seems to me that # s highly inflated by your dozen or so ownership and everybody else who buys 3 or 4, seems to be a lot of those. Heck my house has 3 and you know how cheap I am. But 3DS owners will buy them. And maybe PS360 owners, only half of whom have upgraded (people in general seem to forget that) and maybe even PS4X1 owners from years past lookign to catch up on th eWii Ugmaes they missed ut on.
So Switch will sell better than Wii U, but I think a large chunk of Wii U owners won't pick one up, for whatever reason. I honestly have no idea how or why those Nintendo home console sales shrink in such an orderly fashion, I just know they do.
Edit - Before you spend a lot of time arguing abut me leaving out the Wii numbers, people always do, it's an "outlier", it's accounted for in statistics, so I'm ok excluding it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlier
Pikmin 4...a reboot? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suuuuure
@retro_player_22 One does not simply make a next generation game of the series especially since game making costs are on the rise and since the games you mentioned in question are pretty much the best in their respective series. Tradition is sometimes meant to be broken.
The second screen experience could be added via smartphone support.
@rjejr Well, I know of at least one person that is highly enthusiastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HGapN5eIk
He also gives a bit more detail on the list.
@rjejr
Outliers aren't really outliers though when they repeat over and over. NES, Wii, DS and Pokémon Go. If it was just once I'd agree it was an outlier. But 3 times makes a distribution in statistics, and I suggest you not argue with me when it comes to statistics 😉
I'm aware of the downward trend, but here's the thing. This is the first console to incorporate a handheld into the device. So at this point I don't think anybody knows what we can expect, but one thing I do know: The switch is going to outperform the Wii U. By how much is anyone's guess, but I can tell you now the downward trend bottomed out the moment they merged console and handheld.
Even if it was just a merger of their two platform bases we would be looking at upwards of 75 million. Plus any PlayStation or Xbox gamers they bring to the table.
If they hadn't merged console and handheld, I do suspect that trend would've continued towards the bottom limit, which I don't think was too far off from where Wii U landed. It probably would've bottomed out around 8-10 mil and stayed consistent at that point, just from the core base that won't abandon Nintendo. I think when they were designing Switch, that console sales trendline was probably front and center of every meeting they held. They knew if they didn't take action, the Wii U successor probably wouldn't break 7 digits. And I think this is their answer to that- one of only 2 logical answers there were. Either risk it all for another Wii, or play it safe and look to the long game for sustained gains rather than lightning in a bottle. Switch is playing the long game for sustained gains via merger of handheld and console.
But the hybrid concept changes everything. Because now you can't just look at their downward console trend, you also have to look at the consistently high sales of their handhelds, the effects of merging the two and of the whole equaling more than the sum of its' parts.
I don't think Switch is going to be the next Wii/DS/Pokémon Go. But I also don't think it's going to be anywhere near the bottom end of that trend line. My guess is 60 to 75 mil, where it will probably stay for coming generations. And by integrating handheld into slightly higher end console gaming, they ward off any further impact of mobile eating into their market share for the foreseeable future.
@JaxonH "I'm aware of the downward trend,"
Well that's all I said, I do think Switch will sell as well as you do, but there will be Wii U owners, for whatever reason, who don't buy it. There are probably Gamecube owners who didn't buy the Wii even though that sold 5x better b/c those Gamecube owners were turned off by the motion. There are always going to be people who don't continue buying consoles, PS2 to PS3 dropped by half, 155m - 83m. Why? I don't know. So I think after Wii U people will be done w/ Nintendo home consoles. Fortunately for Nintendo Switch is a hybrid, and nobody can be done w/ that yet b/c it's the first of it's kind.
I hope this is not all!
This is Wii U reboot....
They need more new content.
What is going to entice me to buy a switch? Ports from the Wii U? Nintendo, you need to have more new content.
Adding true online multiplayer to XENOBLADE CHRONICLES X would be a dream come true and I'd probably not play much else besides Breath of the Wild
If this is all, I'll wait until Pokemon Stars, I have all of the ported games, and I will be very disappointed if this is everything that Nintendo have to offer. Wave Race, anything from Star Wars, Mass Effect, Pokemon Snap, anything different and I'm all aboard! Otherwise I'll wait.
@Danrenfroe2016 This is far from a complete and 100% concrete list. LKD is just a reporter. She's just listing what she knows so far. There will be many more games than what's listed here.
Is this the Nintendo Dreamcast?
OMG spoilers
@ThanosReXXX Anybody who thinks XCX can be better on Switch than Wii U is on drugs. Oh wait, it's PE, that explains it.
Seriously, a large part of XCX is using the map to set a variety of different type of mining equipment. At several parts of the game there are missions for getting 30,000 or 50,000 of a certain type of mineral at the same time. You spend a lot of time just messing around on the Gamepad screen swapping different equipment here there and everywhere. Sure, you can do it on a pause menu on the TV screen w/ a joystick controlled pointer, but that would be a worse experience, no debate.
Plus the interactive real time map for when you are flying around in your upgraded Skell looking for things on the map. Manageable dos not equal better. Even if the graphics are better, and taking it with you is better for some people than on Tv, the game was made for 2 screens.
This list doesn't justify a buy to me. Mostly all ports. I'm hoping for something a little better than this. A 3D Mario and Pikmin game are great, but I'm not getting a god knows how much system to play two games.
@NintendoFan990 This is far from a complete list. This is just what LKD has heard of so far.
@jimi Other people will see the appeal, as they won't have experienced it on Wii U beforehand. For them it's essentially an entirely new game.
Wii U owners may be enticed by the combination of new content and the games being free/very cheap on Switch if bought by a Wii U game owner.
All of their 'leaks' just sound like the sort of thing anyone could guess based on the latest rumours... just because they've gotten some stuff right in the past means absolutely nothing... I would have made a lot of the same predictions they did... but that doesn't mean any of it's right.
Unless we get an proper leaks, I'd rather wait until an official announcement than trust any of this.
This is what I get for being internet-deprived all day. XD I miss an info drop like this.
As with all rumors, I'm taking this with a ton of salt. IF this is true though, I think that's a pretty solid lineup for the Switch's first few months. 3D Mario, Skyrim, Breath of the Wild, Pokemon Stars, and BG&E have caught my eye the most.
@rjejr Well, the no debate is up for debate, since it is an opinion based upon your personal experience, but that doesn't make it a fact. Back when I was spending a lot of time defending the plus points of the GamePad, a lot of people always told me that all the stuff could be done on a regular console or PC as well, without taking away from the experience.
Not saying that I fully agree with them, but it is true that not an awful lot of titles made good use of the GamePad, so it is already largely ignored.
And the point were there actually IS no debate is where we conclude that XCX actually WILL be better on Switch. It'll run miles smoother, they can upscale the graphics, and they can add a lot of other stuff that the Wii U wouldn't be able to handle. I think that is a VERY good trade off for not having a GamePad.
And they could add in smart device support, for those ex-Wii U players that desperately need a GamePad for the experience to feel complete...
So there will be a Mario game, tons of ports, more Mario with Rabbids in it (sounds dumb...), and a very late port of Skyrim, than eventually when hell has finally frozen over the new Zelda game will come. Sorry to say, but without Zelda, the launch sounds very lackluster to me. I went from wanting this day one, to we'll see if I get it later...kind of sad, Nintendo.
Wii U ports make a lot of sense. No that many people have a wii u so many didn't had a chance to play any of those games.
@hYdeks Not a complete list at all. Wait for January before you decide anything.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I was just thinking the same thing lol
@NF6429 that is what pikmin 3DS is
Please not Xenoblade Chronicles X. I spent so much time on that game and haven't even finished it yet. I don't need a port.
@Shard1 Don't buy it then.
That the lineup sounds so bleh with all the ports is exactly why I totally believe it.
Wow, do many ports.
My old 3DS is struggling with Moon a bit. There's a fair bit of slowdown going on.
Will be great to play a new Pokemon game on a new system again. 😃
bayonetta ports dammit!
Things like a "Pikmin reboot" and all of these ports have me skeptical.
@rjejr Your usage of "statistics" doesn't work when comes to sales data. The term "outlier" is being greatly miss used.
Acknowledged that this is a rumoured list. If it's accurate, however, I'll wait a while, likely months to a year or more. If the Big N doesn't get it this time around, I might just nab Zelda for my Wii U and forget the Switch.
If true, this is... fine. It stings not having Zelda at launch, and it'll certainly hurt sales and perception, but there's still enough cool stuff here for me to buy it at launch. Plus, a Zelda demo is hype, even if it's just the E3 version. I can't miss that!
Due to the fact that Xenoblade Chronicles X is so bloody long (a positive, in my opinion), I am euphoric for a portable edition. As much as Breath of the Wild being "delayed" (even though its release date was never announced), a 3D-Mario game and Skyrim will be more than sufficient to fulfill my desires.
Summer will be fantastic as well, with Pokémon Stars, BotW, and Xenoblade Chronicles X...
Because all rumors are true, right?
The more i look at this list the more i think it really needs zelda at launch. What a lacklustre list. So it will cost how much in USD for a skyrim windows emulator? Big booboo for nintendo. Better be some ripper 3rd party launch titles or this is going to fall flat on its face...
I seriously hope this list is wrong or there twice as many titles planned. Everyone seems to be forgetting that Wii u games failed to sell wii u's, they certainly wont sell the switch...
@bolt05 The Wii U also failed due to a concept that was not conveyed properly. The Switch was responded to with acclaim, already making it more likely to inherit success.
As for the launch titles, Skyrim will appeal to adults who would like to play on the go. The 3D Mario title has verisimilitudinous chances of being great. Splatoon will appeal to a wide range of audiences who missed out on the Wii U.
You should also consider that Pokémon Stars (really should have been Pokémon Eclipse, if you ask me), Breath of the Wild, and Pikmin 4 release a few mere months after the launch, which will severely heighten Nintendo's holiday sales. Uniting that with a MK8 and XCX port (for those who missed out on the brilliant RPG due to the platform it was on), I say launch titles will not be the Switch's obstacle.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
@bolt05 The Wii U was simply an unappealing product that people didn't want. Didn't matter what games came out on it. Put those appealing games on an actually appealing product like the Switch and it's easier to sell the system.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE IPL buy wind waker HD again.
@IceClimbers This is definitely true in my case. I would have loved to have played some of the Wii U's titles, but the fact that basically everything about the system aside from the first party titles was either a failure or just didn't make sense kept me away. I'm super pumped that I can play all those games I missed out on, plus all the new games that the Switch will offer. Plus, the fact that it's portable totally has me sold on the whole system. March can't come fast enough.
If this is true, it is ok. Skyrim on the go is going to be amazing. 3D Mario is a given. The ports would be ok for people who didn't own a WiiU. I would be selective on them. MarioKart is a definite. Xenoblade, I would wait a while later because I beat that time sucker in February and I don't want to go back to it yet.I hope they fix the ridiculous small text. Splatoon sounds good if it's pack in. I liked it but never got into it. It was probably a time issue. If I have it on the go then I'm going to love it
BotW is a duh. So is Pokemon Star. I also know DQ11 is coming, so that is a duh as well. I hope they have more than this because this looks a little weak for WiiU owners, Sure I'm buying a NS at launch. That is only five new games I'm interested in for the whole year not counting the maybe ports that I already own.They better have some good 3DS games to keep me going. There has to be more than this for day 1.
Well I'm all for the ports and @rjejr the Nintendo home console is most probably dead based on the statistics but even regression lines have trouble extrapolating 😉🤔.
Anyway I wish Nintendo gave more concrete data on game releases for the switch because I might acually get a PS4 instead.
That's... really underwhelming. Though if true it will probably stop the snide comments about the Xbox One and PS4 only having remasters.
@Vineleaf This is not a complete list. There will be many more games along with these ones. If not first party, then 3rd party, and maybe 2nd.
If this is all true, this makes me NOT want to run out and buy a Switch. 90% of the games are ports of games I already own. Yeah not everyone owns them but they've been available for a few years now. The 3D Mario is only thing on this list that excites me honestly.
Let's hope it isn't true. Obviously doesn't have 3rd party lineups, but in terms of 1st party, if you own a WiiU, this is of very little interest.
@manu0 Exacto, my friend.
@dazzlerJJD
It doesn't matter. Nintendo is not looking for those 13MM+ that bought a Wii U but for those 120MM+ that bought a Wii and didn't make the jump.
This sounds good now, but if they release:
3D Mario
Mario Maker
Zelda
Pikmin
Smash Bros.
Mario Kart
Splatoon
and Pokemon
all in the first year, there won't be anything else to look forward to in the years ahead. It sounds great, but, it's really unrealistic. I'd think more people would prefer things being spaced out a little so there isn't any game droughts, because they won't have anything left for 2018 if all of that comes out the first year.
@NF6429 That (pikmin collect-a-thon idea).... actually sounds like a blast.
I'm really not convinced by the wii u ports. I personally thought smash bros on wii u was really average. I also think xenoblade is one of the most boring slow combat rpgs I have ever laid eyes upon, and I am a massive rpg fan, it will appeal to a very niche segment.
Nobody's comments are convincing me here. Worried if this is all they got for launch. As for the claim that it has released to critical acclaim... Critical acclaim can only be decided when the thing goes on sale and we see how many units sell... Im hopeful, but fearful of this launch line up. Wii U ports are wii u ports. Unsurprising and uninteresting. Believe it or not, software sells consoles more than the hardware.
@IceClimbers I disagree. I think rehashing wii u games is market suicide. I'm going to bet here that this "lineup" is not true/accurate. Nintendo fans already had their fun with these games, and everybody else ignored them and continued on with their ps4. This is the issue, software sells hardware never the other way around. A launch lineup heavy with rehashed games is going to sink.
Now DQ11, Zelda, new mario game, NBA2k17, FIFA, Ice Hockey, Skyrim, FFXV, Pokemon Stars, wow that would sell!
I hope they launch some of these games within the 3 month launch window. delay too long and i think wii u all over again. Their next announcement in Jan had better be good and fully disclose 6 months game releases, the system specs and capabilities too. Knowing theres games in the horizon would help too but i'll stop just short of asking for 12 months worth of upcoming games because inevitably in that timeline thins go awry.
But, this has to be said, the Switch is competing with 2 major consoles with a HUGE install base and HUGE game libraries, its not competing with the wii u. make of that what you will. This thing has to be different and not rehash wii u titles at launch - thats just nuts.
I don't see a reason to buy a Nintendo Switch since I won't be re-buying any games that I already own on Wii u. One thing I really hope is the new 3D Mario game is in the same vain as 64 and Sunshine.
As far as I'm concerned if the new 3D Mario game isn't the greatest game ever, Nintendo are finished.
@bolt05
Nintendo are not going to put Mario and Zelda in the same releases window. That would be silly.
@MentalFear That's pretty rich and incredibly rude for someone who has absolutely nothing to add to the conversation. This is a person who is well-known and has a very respected place in the gaming community (unlike you) and has proven to be an really reliable source. She has insider info, probably because she is just that trustworthy and people who stand to get in trouble trust her with secrets.
Regardless, joking about mental health and people's personal lives is out-of-bounds. Wish I could see your face when she gets most of this right.
@Henmii I agree with you. Zelda should be a launch title. And mario, both or they risk not grabbing anyones attention. This make or break for nintendo consoles plain and simple, and I dont like the lack of zelda on launch already.
What's "The Silver case"?
@Tsusasi
Calm down, brave White knight!
And lighten up a bit, ok?
Man, that list looks TIRED. The same old franchises... ports from other systems... reboots... Just Dance... UGH.
Here's hoping the unannounced games are genuinely exciting and not just stripped down versions of PS4/Xbox games which are 6 months late to the table.
Am definitely getting a PS4 next. Between that and my Wii U and 3DS backlogs, Switch can wait until at least 2018.
None of this is interesting to me in the least. From that list, I'll literally have nothing to play on my Switch from launch day right into 2018?
... What?
For the record - ports don't count. No point repurchasing games I already have. I know its for the wider audience but still...
@ThanosReXXX "Well, I know of at least one person that is highly enthusiastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HGapN5eIk
He also gives a bit more detail on the list."
Can you please put in your post that it's a link to Player Essence in future? I don't want to click on clickbait. Thanks.
Hmmm...this list. I'll wait until January.
@WiltonRoots What's with the salty comment? It was a reply solely meant for @rjejr, and he more than likely already knew who I meant because of that exact wording.
And no offense, but I don't think that I have to take into account the feelings or sentiments of other NLife users that decide to click on a link that wasn't directed at them...
And besides that, what the hell is so wrong or bad about PlayerEssence? He may be a bit enthusiastic or loud sometimes, but he's far from the worst or most annoying Nintendo-related YouTuber. That dubious honor probably belongs to OBE1...
https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/800013751797907456
I'm hoping there will be lots more fresh games rather than ports. We need a new Mario Kart, new Splatoon and new Smash - anything else just isn't good enough for loyal Nintendo fans.
Although this is just a rumour after all.
@ThanosReXXX It wasn't salty, I just don't want to add to the guy's traffic and I got caught off guard ...I unsubscribed from him ages ago as he just posts non stop clickbait, I try hiding him from my youtube feed but he still seems to crop up, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch, Nintendo Switch, but he's really got nothing to say, just the same garbage rumours everyone else jumps on.
OBE1, oh man....
I'd say this is a list of games that leaked, not of all the games that will be released by launch/first year.
Also, many of you have complained that ports suck, that you aren't buying it before day X since most games are ports. Let me tell you something: although I understand your feelings, I couldn't be more excited by the idea of playing Wii U games on switch, since I totally missed the console - and I'm a Nintendo fan. Now think of those who aren't fans, there are amazing games that most people haven't played. There's a reason why PS4 did the exact same strategy, many gamers came from X360 and really loved being able to play these games. Believe me, ports are an amazing idea, even more so considering Wii U.
One more thing, Nintendo really doesn't need to convince you to buy a Switch - you're gonna do it anyway, after all you bought a Wii U. They need to convince the rest of the gaming community. =)
@WiltonRoots I see, well my personal sentiment is that he just makes videos on what's available, news-wise. And seeing as most channels and websites do indeed only have rumors to report on, the same could be expected from a Nintendo-related YouTube channel.
But to each their own, I guess.
As for your YouTube feed problem: I had that same issue with OBE1, but no more.
I don't know what browser you use, but if it's FireFox, you might want to try this add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-blocker/?src=api
I haven't seen any OBE1 videos popping up since I use this...
@ThanosReXXX Cheers I'll try that out.
@WiltonRoots I just saw that they also support other browsers on the add-on info page, so whether you use Chrome or FireFox, you're covered either way.
fake, for sure. Where the other third games? hey just are trying guess and betting things knowed.
The Switch is going to be an insanely good value for anyone who didn't own a Wii U.
And if proper 3D Mario AND Pikmin 4 launch in the same year? Those both sound like killer apps to me.
Still grasping my salt shaker, of course.
Uhh, a little low on launch titles, isn't it? Surely it can't be just 5. Let's hope so at least. Will get 3D Mario, maybe Skyrim, and I'll wait for reviews on Rabbids. Not liking the sound of Mario Kart 8 only having minor additions to be honest. Probably still get Smash even if it is just a straight port (kinda sucks but hey, it's Smash). Really hope this Pikmin reboot has at least a new planet/levels rather than being much of what was in the original. That's my only fear there.
Xenoblade X? Well, having spent over 100 hours on the original I'll hate having to start again so it depends what new content is on offer. As for Mario Maker, I think we can hold off buying it again on 3DS if they're only going to release it for Switch (with all the online features restored). Can we assume the Switch will have touchscreen if Mario Maker is in development? It would be difficult without.
All in all, I'm not overly impressed with the amount of ports on offer over new titles but I'll see how worth it is buying again and wait to see which new titles are announced. I guess they're hoping many people buying the Switch won't have bothered with the Wii U. But, I think we're all just waiting for Zelda, right?!
@JaxonH
Tomb Raider and Witcher aren't good examples. Nintendo games command premium prices because Nintendo doesn't drop the price like the other player developers in the market. Nintendo examples are a non enhanced Mario Galaxy 2 5 years after the original for a budget price. Metroid Prime slightly enhanced budget release 7 years later. Windwaker Waker, enhanced non budget release 11 years later.
This is definately a new path for Nintendo even if it is common place in the market. Not that it's right or wrong, but it has risks and rewards. If Nintendo starts to treat their games in a budget manner it may draw in those consumers who haven't bought Nintendo games because they think they lack the value of other games in the market. The risk is you have a faithful group of gamers that think Nintendo games are worth the premium now. They may start to believe the games are budget games and not worth the premium.
Please don't say things like only the homeless can't afford a Switch. Homelessness is a real problem and that's very insensitive. It's also the wrong question. It doesn't matter if $250 is alot of money. What matters is if I should spend my $250 on a Switch or a PS4 or something else entirely. Maybe there will be alot announced in January and the Switch will knock it out of the park. But right now I think it's fair to question the value of the Switch especially for existing Wii U owners.
Nice...we get to re-buy games we already bought. This has to be a partial list or it's not an accurate list. If it is true, it's not going to win many people over.
@cleveland124
Relax, it's an exaggeration meant to drive home a point. Just because there are real homeless people doesn't mean the subject can't be referenced to make a point.
Anyways, it's not about the people who would choose between one console or another. It's about those people who are going to buy it anyways because they love Nintendo games. This is it for the next generation, possibly for both handheld and console. And for most Nintendo gamers, they're going to buy it anyways at some point.
Now, if someone is going to choose then ya, all that other stuff comes into play. But I'd wager very few people, even if they don't absolutely love Nintendo games, would end up skipping all Nintendo games entirely. I mean, I'm a normal Joe and I bought a Wii U, PS4, PS4 Pro with 55" 4KTV, PSVR, 2 Vitas, Xbox One, 3DS, New 3DS, New 3DS XL, and games up the wazoo for all of them, and that's just this generation alone. I'm not rich, I work a decent job at 50-60 thousand a year. Nothing special, typical middle class.
And that's my point. Even on a minimum wage job, if you can afford gaming as a hobby, you're gonna be able to do $250. Even if you bought another console. That's the cost of just 4 games. Even if a person has to wait a year between purchases (as if it takes a whole year to save up $250) they'll still end up buying it at some point anyways.
Unless a person just flat out doesn't like Nintendo games that much and is perfectly fine going 5-6 years skipping all the new Nintendo exclusives. And there are some people in that category. But at $250 I'm guessing even core PS and Xbox gamers may jump in for a 2nd console.
@JaxonH
You don't have kids do do you? There are always choices for people. You may buy everything gaming but there are few people like you. If everybody was like you the Wii U would have been a smashing success.
@cleveland124
That's true, but not because people can't afford it. I see tons of people spending $400 to upgrade their PS4, yet still don't own an X1 or Wii U.
Brand loyalty is what it boils down to. The same brand loyalty that will ensure Nintendo fans buy the Switch because they love Nintendo games.
The question is will other people buy it too.
If it is true I'll wait until some actual new games come out not buying a new console to get spruce up versions of games I've already got.
Really like this launch lineup if it's true.
And yeah, Breath of the wild, xenoblade, pikmin, mario. All these games are really asome.
I can't imagine just relying on a Nintendo console. After the last few generations, I expect a few must have titles..and that's it. All other games I buy will be on PS4 or Xbox One. Nintendo games used to set the standard. Mario Kart 8 was the only game last generation that was "next level" for me. Nintendo could have used the Metroid franchise to create it's own "Destiny" style game. Imagine creating your own bounty hunter. Taking down bosses in strikes with friends. Having social outposts to buy gear. Going on Raids with other bounty hunters to take down Ridley, Kraig and Mother Brain to get high end gear and power ups. But Nintendo would give some excuse as to why that wouldn't work (blame the internet, player interest etc).
@Warruz Believe as a collector the wii u version of every game will be more expensive than the Switch one.. the switch might get selects and that stuff but we know that the wii u probably wont considering where it is standing.. so get the wii u version.. (advice from a fellow collector).
@Warruz
For those who have it on Wii U it's like "but I already have that game" so I hope there might be a cheap $10 upgrade to switch version or something
BUT honestly, games like DKC:TF were so stunningly fantastic I think they should do whatever they can to let more people play them. That's the best DKC game ever.
@FreakFerrett I agree, but Everytime a console becomes last gen, there is always a second hand sell off of non-collectors, and it's usually the best time to buy.
Yes I agree on that, the thing is that particuarly with Nintendo games they dont go down in price like to 15% of its original price. Unless they are rare exceptions like codename S.T.E.A.M that is 13 or something like that on Amazon. I´m planning on completing my collection with the games I like, I dont wanna go with a full set, and that is about 35 games plus some other ones I have that were bought super cheaf or in a lot. I still have 11 games to get the collection I want. Ho wmuch do you think that games like Devils Third or Yoshis Wooly World will be when they get to their lowest selling point? (I´m not from America so ebay and amazon are pretty much my only options for buying).
@ThanosReXXX "actually WILL be better on Switch."
They can make it 4k w/ HDR, may be a better looking game, but that doens't make it a better playing game. They won't be able to make mobile devices work smoothly enough to compensate.
Nobody likes graphics more than I do, but if you make the game unplayable, well then you have The Order on PS4, one of the best looking PS4 games w/ a 63% on Metacritic.
@rjejr It's not just looks. The hardware is considerably better than Wii U's, so it'll run smoother as well.
@Barbiegurl777 There are only like 5 games on the list that are ports, not to mention the developers for both the Wii U and eventually the 3DS will all be focusing their efforts on making Switch games. The list isn't a complete list, either. Still though, if the official lineup that Nintendo will reveal in January doesn't appeal to you, nothing wrong with holding off until later. You can certainly expect a lot of good games for this system though, seeing as Nintendo's gonna do everything in its power to make this system a success after the Wii U's failure.
@Malakai "The term "outlier" is being greatly miss used."
Well maybe, but I'm ok w/ excluding Wii sales, enough arguments can be made that it didn't create a whole new group of hard core gamers nor a new group of Nintendo fans nor did it bring back NES and SNES owners, mostly it was a 1 time purchase of Wii Sports for many people, and Wii Fit for many others - Wii Balance board old 40 million. Wii sold for Sports and Fit, not for Mario, Zelda, CoD or Madden.
@arrmixer It's ok, Nintendo Life wants you to get a PS4, have you seen their Twitter feed? (Actual account, not a hoax)
https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/800656265328390144
Y'all it is a rumor. Can we wait until we get some announcements before we start slitting our wrists and brandishing the pitchforks?
I hate ports and remasters as much as the next person but I look at it this way: The wiiu sold poorly. So if they can boost NS by selling games I already have then that means some of those games may get sequels or spin offs or whatever. In the mean time I can catch up on my wiiu library until new (for me) games comes out. However we want the system to sell well, as that means eventually more games for everyone.
@ThanosReXXX "PlayerEssence? That dubious honor probably belongs to OBE1... "
Wait, they are the same guy, aren't they, you were just messing w/ that other guy? And I dont' see anything wrong w/ him/them, dont see why that other guy would claim clickbait. He must really get cranky whenever he gets rickrolled or some NSFW stuff shows up.
He said me haffi PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT. He see me do mi PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT, PORT.
@ThanosReXXX Man, over 300 comments again, just like the bad ole' days. Good article never get more than 150 comments I've noticed.
As somebody who has put in over 150 hours in XCX on an undoctorated Wii U on a 52" 1080p, I never had any issues w/ fps or resolution, just had a lot of fun using the Gamepad for live map tracking and mine placement, no amount of graphical enhancements could possibly make up for lack of a 2nd screen. None. Zero. Zilch.
That said, I also don't care about playing PS3 ports on PS4 or PS4 games enhanced on Pro. I've been pretty good w/ graphics on most games since the Dreamcast in SD and the PS3 in HD, and the Wii U does have better graphics on occasion than the PS3 - Bayonetta is spectacular. I'd never ever have guessed "Wii U" if I had seen it 3 years ago in a blind test, I probably would have guessed PS4.
Anything from the PS1 era will look worthwhile better on Switch, FF7 for example.
Skyrim, Zelda and Xenoblade would be a nice start on switch for me. Had a Hard time getting into Xenoblade X on Wii-U might or might not give that another try
@SuperBaconKid The IR port on the Joycon could be used for pointing, and IR feels smoooothh.
@rjejr No, PlayerEssence and OBE1 are definitely NOT one and the same guy. They look and sound decidedly different.
But I can understand that not everyone likes the same channels, so no argument from me there.
@rjejr "undoctorated"
You mean undoctored? Unmodded? Not that modding would help, since you can't mod the Wii U part, but I guess that's not what you meant anyway.
I never said that the Wii U wasn't able to handle the game, but obviously, more powerful hardware will run older games better and smoother. And if it's true that so many re-releases are coming to the Switch, it must apparently be really easy to port them to the Tegra hardware.
@yomanation True, that.
@yomanation
Nintendo has been telling us graphics aren't important for several generations. People that think it's really important have a PS4. Honestly though, FPS may be more stable but I'm not sure the Switch has much more power than the Wii U and there is unlikely to be any physics changes in the ports which is where the extra power would shine.
@NF6429 It's I'm January
@Barbiegurl777
normally I'd agree but what you have to realize is they are risking annoying you because the install base was SO small that they are hoping to get millions more people in on the fun you have already had. it makes sense. and if it works, then awesome games like DKC:TF will get the love they deserve!
@yomanation
So your argument is that Nintendo will release a glitchy poor performing version of one of their flagship series?
Relax, the Wii U version of Zelda will be fine. Wii U version was front and center at E3 because they have alot of confidence in it. We've also seen this sing and dance before. Twighlight princess on the Gamecube was great.
@rjejr There's a follow up video to the previous PE video about all the leaked titles. He is being the relaxed version of himself and actually makes quite a lot of sense:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WCUCihAwxw
Our other friend SMD also has some stuff to say about the list of games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot9Dm4DJThM
And here's a very good video (in my opinion) from another guy I came across on YouTube today that explains in detail why the Switch will actually be a VERY competent system, and will be considerably better performance-wise than Wii U:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwh3Yvabw1c
Might be an interesting video for you too, @cleveland124.
DISCLAIMER:
To anyone wanting to click the first video, be aware that it is a PlayerEssence video, so if for some reason you can't stand the guy, don't click on the first video link...
A good game line up is going to be really important for them. Portability is nice but ps4 is not portable and it didn't have a problem selling 40 million units. What would really help Nintendo turnaround is if they could be releasing big name IPs every few months. Gamers need new content regularly.
@ThanosReXXX
So his whole argument is Nvidia is running the show and using Pascal so it'll be great? I guess we'll see soon enough so I'm not sure it's worth wildly speculating on if Nintendo can pull off a PS4 handheld and sell it for less than a PS4.
IGN doesn't believe the dock adds any cooling.
"It's safe to say the dock will not provide additional power to make Nintendo Switch games look better on the TV graphically. It's likely that the Switch will down-clock the system's CPU when it's running on internal battery (as a way to conserve power for a portable system)" http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/26/nintendo-switch-the-unanswered-questions?page=2
But really it's all about the games. Michael Pachter thinks the Switch is already a lost cause for good third party support. "Pachter said that the chances of a Switch port for the game are ‘exceedingly poor.’" "I just think that Nintendo has wandered too far away from the mainstream for most of the publishers, so you’re just not getting mainstream games produced for Nintendo consoles- not ones made for other consoles, at any rate.”
http://gamingbolt.com/red-dead-redemption-2-chances-of-appearing-on-nintendo-switch-are-exceedingly-poor#DIKOmQ7Fkk8OVYeY.99
If Nintendo can't get good third party support it doesn't really matter how powerful the system is.
@cleveland124 If the Switch sells well, I don't see any reason why the 3rd party devs wouldn't jump on board. It's true that Nintendo doesn't exactly follow the mainstream, but that doesn't mean there's no chance of 3rd party support.
@cleveland124 No, you misunderstood me, and involving you in my comment was meant with the best of intentions.
I saw your discussion and you seem either very determined or very convinced that the Switch is going to be a lousy, weak console, that is possibly even going to do worse than the Wii U.
And even if that's not what you mean to say, it is how you come across, or at least to me. So, that video was to let you hear a rather extensive and very well formulated opinion of why we shouldn't start to worry yet. There are so many more positive factors to the Switch in comparison with the Wii U, that it is both utterly ridiculous and WAY too soon, to already write it off.
And citing Pachter is about the worst thing you can do. The guy is a complete moron with next to no real knowledge of how the gaming community works and he also fails to look at the upside. A good analyst analyzes the complete story, and doesn't just look at the bad weather reports...
But moving on: Never once did I mention that the Switch is going to be equal to or better than the PS4, that's actually impossible, even if it has a Tegra X2 SoC.
I also never said the dock has additional cooling or extra power. What I did say, and what is HIGHLY likely, is that when the system is docked, it can go into an overclock mode because it won't have to rely on the batteries, so it might display 720p when on the go, but when docked, it could easily do 1080p/60fps, and it will be the Switch itself, NOT the dock, that does the necessary extra cooling. There can be fans in there, except they're not on when in portable mode, which would then obviously be under-clocked.
The way Nvidia describes the architecture and the ecosystem around the hardware does make it sound like the Tegra is specifically suited to being manipulated in such a fashion, so it is something to take into account.
And what a lot of people are also missing is that even the partial list of third party developers that are on board is already much larger than the one for the Wii U, and it seems pretty clear to me that this is specifically because of Nvidia. They have the largest support group and developer network in PC gaming, so it isn't all that hard to imagine that they've been lobbying and sweet talking all their own contacts, especially considering the fact that there are now companies on that list that wouldn't even look at a Nintendo console before, let alone develop a game for it.
Power-wise, the Switch is easily more powerful than the Wii U, and like was explained in the video, the architecture is far more developer friendly this time, both of which makes it a more viable option for third party developers.
Many people think that the Switch will be buried by the PS4 Pro and the Xbox Scorpio, but that too is not the case. From all reports so far, the Pro isn't really all that Pro, so we can largely ignore that already, but even besides that, both Microsoft and Sony have explicitly stated that games for their systems must run on ALL models, so besides a couple of VR specific things, there will be no exclusive games and the base models of the consoles will remain leading in development.
Extra stuff for the higher end models will be on the discs of future releases or in the downloads, but obviously only used when played on the relevant model console.
The next important thing to keep in mind is that ALL modern game engines are highly scalable, so as long as the hardware and the architecture are compatible and can handle the engines, then there's no danger of them not being able to receive better third party support.
And sure, Switch games won't be in 4K, but if they can manage a locked 1080p/60fps when docked, that will already be more than enough for nearly all current third party franchises.
And on the go it might only be 720p, but if people can play all the same games that they can play at home then hardly anyone is going to complain about that. And it's a HUGE plus compared to the other two that you'll be able to play these same multi-platform games on the go...
Ultimately, all I'm saying is that people might want to take a bit more of a wait and see approach, instead of a Nintendoomed or other negative sentiment.
January will be here pretty soon, so by then I'm sure we're going to find out just how wrong Pachter's assessment of the Switch's third party support is...
@ThanosReXXX
So what is it? First you say it can't be as powerful as PS4. Then you argue it's not much less powerful.
Same as third party. You argue January will be a big reveal for third parties. But you also argue this leaker has been spot on and she has very few third party games on the list. I get the game engine thing I just don't think it mayters that much. What is the easiest platform to support? PC. EA basically doesn't support PC because they don't want to. Better hardware doesn't mean automatic support.
@KirbyTheVampire
I'd agree. I'm curious how the Switch will sell and if that will entice third parties. But I think it's backwards or Nintendo to not have communicated with them up front. It takes time to make games. If third parties aren't ready for the Switch now it means they likely won't have anything in 2017 for the Switch. If they are in wait and see mode they might not have anything for 2018.
@Aaron09 We need cross play or mutual save support. I hope Nintendo surprises us. Heck, we need an account system!
@cleveland124 I never said it was as powerful as PS4 in the first place, nor did I say it was close, but I do believe, based upon the architecture, that it can be close to Xbox One when docked. And the thing is that we can't also compare the two directly, since Switch uses ARM, and the other two use x86, so different wattage, different way of operating etc.
I still don't understand the negativity, and you come across rather hostile while all I did was trying to perhaps make you see things a bit more positive by pointing out that video to you.
It's not like I'm making all this up. I just read up on the whole Tegra architecture and besides the factual information one can glean from that, I'm just quoting other sources.
The most important thing is that the system will be capable and developer-friendly enough to at least have more possibilities in getting third party support than the Wii U, which isn't all that hard to do in the first place.
And game engine compatibility is a HUGE factor. If you think it isn't, then you're way off base. The Wii U only supported older versions of Unreal Engine 3.xx and not even officially. Now, they have DIRECT support from Epic Games, the manufacturer of the engine themselves, and that says a LOT.
And once again: more third parties than ever on their list, and also new names never before seen, so that's Nvidia's connections at work. And as mentioned in the video, all the tools that Nvidia brings to the table will also be able to further strengthen Nintendo's chances in getting more and better third party support.
And it was also already mentioned how easy it was to port games from PS4 to Switch, and that makes sense, because every programmer/developer knows that it is indeed relatively easy to downport from x86 to ARM.
And if they handle the porting right, the difference in fidelity would only have to be nominal in most titles.
Much like the Xbox 360 did quite well with third party games, even though the PS3 was supposed to be the superior system.
If developers don't have to spend too much time porting and then optimizing, then they can get a good return on investment and that alone will make it worthwhile for them to take the step and put their game on the Switch. That none of them has spoken out yet, really doesn't mean anything at all.
Besides all the already known titles, Nintendo themselves aren't even speaking, so that's why I think that most of it will probably be revealed in January, when the final NDA's will be lifted. And more info will follow after that.
There are a lot of insiders saying that these NDA's are still in place now, so developers are still under strict order not to leak info. Anyways, it's 1.45am over here, so I'm off. Later.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdOTFEtgUHidA38ohueXesxTtn0jcskBG
@Barbiegurl777
Oh I totally agree. that's big $$ for a lot of us.
In fact, I would hope that Nintendo might to some king of ambassador program for Wii U owners. I mean, those are probably Nintendo's MOST loyal customers and bought a system that only survived 4 years with minimal support. If you were Nintendo, would you want to do whatever you can to get them onto the new system to share those games that are being ported with friends and create hype?
I'm thinking they should let Wii U owners upgrade their games to switch versions for like $10 or something.
Where is the Hyrule Warriors port? Really want to have it on the Switch.
@ThanosReXXX "DISCLAIMER:"
That was the best. Still not sure what they guy was on about. I told gonru but maybe not you, 15 people for dinner tomorrow, the first guests arriving tonight, so I'm behind again and not doing much the next few days.
@rjejr Yeah, I just thought I'd have a little innocent fun with it...
But 15 people? That's either a state dinner or one big family you've got there. What's on the menu?
We always save the big family dinners for Christmas and so on.
Oh, and seeing as you're behind again and I'm not sure if NLife is going to post the news rumor that I sent them, here it is so you can at least read it for yourself:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5ea9uo/rumor_someone_who_producing_switch_at_foxconn_is/
Seeing as the English translation is, as you would expect, "ever so slightly" butchered, this video might make this new rumor a bit more easy to digest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oXrovoa6_w
The comments underneath are also interesting.
Enjoy your dinner party.
@ThanosReXXX "What's on the menu? "
Guess -
1. turkey
2. turkey
3. turkey
4. All of the above
Foxconn rumour sounds believable. I'd be disappointed in a piece of plastic junk dock - why make it a toaster, just let it sit like the 3DS or Wii or Wii U dock - but maybe next year they shove some stuff in there for a $100 SCD? On the bright side a junk dock mean sless price for it, no need to sell it solo, and maybe make it multoclored like the New 3DS faceplates, sell them cheap w/ built in skins for $20 for extra TVs in the home.
Screen wont be 1080p, I just can't see that happening, I thought 720p was pushing it but its at least believable.
Oh, funny thing, I'm also having 15 people for Christmas Eve dinner - but no turkey. T-day is my wife's family, Christmas Eve is mine, that's what happens when a Catholic marries a Jew, you split holidays between your families. Combined the families for 22 at T-day dinner 2 years ago, now that was a really tight fit - had to make a beer run while I was making gravy, really I did.
@rjejr Yet another video popping up about this very rumor I just mentioned, more will probably follow now that people are catching on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGuzTVdcjqQ
And please don't read 'em backwards; spoils the surprise...
@rjejr Turkey's always good...
@rjejr Late Thanksgiving?
Oh, and I kind of agree on that screen probably not being 1080p, but it certainly isn't impossible. Even $100 smart phones have 'em nowadays, so cost is not an obstacle, if that is the reason why you are thinking it's not going to happen.
Maybe Nvidia made that a prerequisite for the collaboration, seeing as their Shield handheld was also 1080p, so I'd not throw that out of the window too soon if I were you...
@rjejr Funny thing is that after the reveal video, some people on various site and forums were arguing that the handheld screen was ""clearly" 720p, and then some days later, the interview with one of the actors was published and it turned out that none of the Switch tablets in the video was displaying anything. They were all dummy units and the video was edited in afterwards, so all of them were looking at blank screens...
They even showed it in a picture in which it is clearly visible that they made the mistake of not having "shopped" the post-processed image correctly:
@ThanosReXXX Turkey's never good. But I did spend an hour today making awesome stuffing, so I have that to look forward to.
@rjejr Well not if you eat it too often, but I never mind a good piece of turkey. Stuffing sounds good too...
By the way, my post about the rumor has been rejected because apparently, it has already largely been discredited by several commenters in that thread, and because NLife hasn't heard anything from their own sources, they won't put it on the front page. They are going to keep an eye on it, though...
Had a little back and forth by mail about this with Thomas yesterday, because obviously I didn't agree, even though I also thought there was some weird and improbable stuff in there, but the translation was also bad, so that certainly hasn't helped getting a clearer picture either, as you may have gathered from the second video I sent you about it.
Oh well, better next time. I'm surely going to keep an eye on this, gotta have something Switch related to keep me busy until January...
Across the life of the console, a 1080p screen may prove cheaper than a 720p due to production volumes. Not sure what the actual power consumption difference would be...
If the games are going to be 720p I'd rather have native res than upscaling though
Nintendo is really trying to milk the Wii U's fantastic underselling games. SM3DW didn't get the love it deserved. Mk8 was amazing. And the best game on Wii U had to be Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival. Fantastic game. Good at making you waste money.
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