-when the Switch 2 is announced. -if Switch 2 is BC. -any new Switch models announced (Lite OLED?). -any permanent discounts.
Worse case for future Switch sales: Nintendo announces Switch 2 at gamescon with full BC and no new Switch models, no discount on Switch till after Switch 2 launch.
Good. Don't get me wrong I loved Mania but it was basically a remix of the pixel Sonic games, which I say as a compliment, another remix would be hard to justify itself. (Basically the same reason I am desperate for Xenoverse 3 to do something new).
I'm not entirely sure just how different a 2D Mario can be. It's Mario.
Short of replacing the models and voices with the movie ones there isn't anything they can do to make a 2D Mario that much different. It's all presentation.
There wasn't a "I'm near the end of the main story and now I'm panicking it's nearly over and purposely trying to avoid finishing the mainline by giving myself random tasks to do but don't want to chase down every shrine or every damn seed"
There's 5 of us the rental price is nothing compared to the total cost of a cinema trip and my kids have 48 hours to watch it as many times as they like.
Preordered a physical copy thanks to the discount currys offered.
My format choice was entirely driven by pricing.
However for funsies my Switch broke and needed to be sent off for repair, so for me the race is between my Switch and my copy arriving.
My money is on the game, "direct" collection was supposed to be faster but it sat at the courier depo for 4 days before getting to the repair shop yesterday,.
It dose seem to be standard practice for cgi films to have some sort of short for the home release (unless your Disney the you attach it to a film you need boosting) I think all of my kids illumination DVDs have a related short
@StarPoint depends on the company. Xbox treats gamescon like E3 with announcements and demos, Nintendo usually uses it to push games they annouced at E3 but since it's not happening this year (after everyone pulled out) we don't know what Nintendo will do
Not going to lie, when I read "64" battles my brain went right to "ahh a battle mode based on Bomberman 64" and not "64 players" so I'm a little sad now.
I do think the sheer amount Easter eggs that show that a Mario less Nintendo exists in their world disputes the idea Nintendo is building one shared cinematic universe.
Which to be honest I'd prefer they didn't. I'd rather they have a bunch of different universes so we get a bunch of films that exist within that Mario/DK (and seemingly punch out) universe, one for Zelda, and one for Metroid/starfox/f-zero.
Don't get me wrong I'd love a Smash movie but it doesn't need all the characters coexisting in the same universe at the same time.
Said it before, Illumination (with Nintendo watching) is a good fit for Mario and DK, and anything that doesn't take itself too seriously (Splatoon and kirby could work with them) but they need to team up with different universal studios for different franchises. The How to Train Your Dragon team at Dreamworks would be fantastic for Zelda
It does feel weird that people are expecting a lot of plot from a Mario movie. Don't get me wrong, pretty much any other Nintendo IP I get it but this is Mario, X needs rescuing is pretty much the only plot they have.
To me "spectacle over story" seems like the cinema version of "gameplay over story"
@SwagaliciousJohnson I did see some article for another site that claimed it was coming in someform and that the video saying pokemon wont be transferable disappeared.
Though it seemed to be hinting at "Pokemon Stadium + RBY" being a thing, so the GB pokemon games would be played in the N64 game not part of GB NSO.
@CaptChaos I thought that but there are a couple of details that sink that, even ignoring the "meta" things like the website, the woman is clearly using a smartphone. I think the visual and audio effects are "low budget" not "old"
@uptownsoul Smash is in the exact same place too. The next game will have a tiny roster in comparison. It seems like the best time to try something new with the two series to help deal with the "shrinkage" like giving smash characters all new movesets.
This is harder to swallow than other prise raises. This isn't the tail end of a transition between generations resulting in higher costs, the switch is well established.
Sure the current cost of living I hitting everything and everyone with pricing to reflect that, and the switch tax has been a thing for some time but this isn't an all new project. Sure its a much larger project than their "major's mask" (or ac Brotherhood FC new dawn) style sequel.
I would wager the odds of Switch beating PS2 sales lies on if the next machine is backward compatible or not.
We saw the 3DS limp on for years thanks to it's massive library of good games, I can see the Switch doing the same if the next machine doesn't play Switch games natively. Limping over the PS2 sales before it stops being made.
If it's a "Switch 2" with full BC (or even a different machine that also plays Switch games) then I imagine sales would dry up much quicker.
@Zimon the common thread among other engage players I've spoken to is that the "reducing the socialising" hasn't resulted equal improvement in the combat or story.
My daughter goes crazy for the cardboard toys, she treats them as puzzles throwing away the instructions (not that it matters much they are colour coordinated)
I'm not sure about playing CoD MP crossplay via switch, the resolution and frame rate difference is bound to cause problems.
I'd gladly pay for some sort of collection. Like have a MW collection, Waw/BO collection. Have them work like the Master Cheif collection collect the campaigns then have some sort of universal MP
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Re: Talking Point: Will You Pay $50 For Red Dead Redemption On Switch?
I like the idea of playing RDR1 on Switch but the pricing is too high for a straight port.
Re: Poll: Do You Think Switch Can Catch PS2's Total Sales Before 'Switch 2' Arrives?
@jamesthemagi I agree, an announcement at Gamescom is an even weirder play than just doing their own independent live show
Re: Poll: Do You Think Switch Can Catch PS2's Total Sales Before 'Switch 2' Arrives?
I think it's going to depend on
-when the Switch 2 is announced.
-if Switch 2 is BC.
-any new Switch models announced (Lite OLED?).
-any permanent discounts.
Worse case for future Switch sales: Nintendo announces Switch 2 at gamescon with full BC and no new Switch models, no discount on Switch till after Switch 2 launch.
Re: Sakurai Can't Imagine Future Super Smash Bros. Games Without His Involvement
I'm expecting some sort of great change for the next one.
If Sakurai is still involved then it could be something like all characters getting new move lists.
If its someone else it could be more an reinvention of gameplay itself. An absolutely massive risk, something like making it 3D
Re: Sonic Mania 2 Didn't Happen Because Sega Wanted To "Move Beyond" Pixel Art
Good.
Don't get me wrong I loved Mania but it was basically a remix of the pixel Sonic games, which I say as a compliment, another remix would be hard to justify itself. (Basically the same reason I am desperate for Xenoverse 3 to do something new).
Re: Feature: The One Thing Wii Did Much Better Than Switch
The biggest issue with the sensor bar was its relative size to your TV.
When I used it on my dads small "portable TV" it was basically 1:1 and felt great, when I got my 42inch plasma it was harder
Re: Talking Point: Is Super Mario Bros. Wonder Really A Departure From The 'New' Series?
I'm not entirely sure just how different a 2D Mario can be. It's Mario.
Short of replacing the models and voices with the movie ones there isn't anything they can do to make a 2D Mario that much different. It's all presentation.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think Of Today's Nintendo Direct?
For a "we just dropped one of our biggest games" Direct. It was really good.
As a "not e3" showcase it was one of the better ones this year. Some tease for 2024 but a lot of 2023 games.
Re: Super Mario Bros. Wonder, A Brand New 2D Mario Game, Is Coming To Switch
Two thoughts
1) that's some very... animated animation
2) I'm surprised Daisy is playable.
Seems like a worthwhile successor to the New Mario Bros games
Re: Princess Peach Will Star In Her Own Game On Switch In 2024
My daughters have been after for a new Peach game, pretty much forever (Super Princess Peach came out before they was born)
Re: Super Mario RPG Is Getting A Remake This November, And It Looks Amazing
I look forward to playing it, though I'm a little disappointed the models are squished like the OG sprites.
Re: Zelda: TOTK Players Discover Simple Way To Make Rupees With 'Frozen Meat Glitch'
I may "eventually" do this so I can buy many, many arrows and kill the various Ghidorahs.
Re: Poll: Are You Still Playing Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
There wasn't a "I'm near the end of the main story and now I'm panicking it's nearly over and purposely trying to avoid finishing the mainline by giving myself random tasks to do but don't want to chase down every shrine or every damn seed"
So i selected
"I'm no where near completing it yet"
Re: Mario Movie Producer Denies Legend Of Zelda Film Rumours
Good.
Illumination is famous for its phobia of exposition and lore, Zelda is objectively the worse fit for that style.
Re: The Nitro Deck Is A Stunning Switch Controller Grip Promising "Zero Stick Drift"
I prefer this concept to those split pads that make the switch massive.
Re: Talking Point: Is Tears Of The Kingdom The Scariest Zelda Game Ever?
I'm 3 temples down and the Ghidorah/hyrda's still mess me up. Buy I'm clearly playing it wrong, I have barely any arrows or money to buy arrows.
Re: Poll: Goats Or Lizards? What Do You Think Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom's Zonai Look Like?
@Buizel True... unless they have some truly concerning lizards where they live? Like all the Geko's have massive bunny ears.
Re: Wahoo! The Mario Movie Is Now Available To Buy Or Rent Digitally In The UK
The rental price makes sense when your a family.
There's 5 of us the rental price is nothing compared to the total cost of a cinema trip and my kids have 48 hours to watch it as many times as they like.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
Preordered a physical copy thanks to the discount currys offered.
My format choice was entirely driven by pricing.
However for funsies my Switch broke and needed to be sent off for repair, so for me the race is between my Switch and my copy arriving.
My money is on the game, "direct" collection was supposed to be faster but it sat at the courier depo for 4 days before getting to the repair shop yesterday,.
Re: Mario Movie Home Release Bonus Features Seemingly Detailed
It dose seem to be standard practice for cgi films to have some sort of short for the home release (unless your Disney the you attach it to a film you need boosting) I think all of my kids illumination DVDs have a related short
Re: Poll: Who's Your Favourite Champion In Zelda: Breath Of The Wild?
They're all great in different ways!
Re: It's Official, Nintendo Will Attend Gamescom 2023
@StarPoint depends on the company. Xbox treats gamescon like E3 with announcements and demos, Nintendo usually uses it to push games they annouced at E3 but since it's not happening this year (after everyone pulled out) we don't know what Nintendo will do
Re: It's Official, Nintendo Will Attend Gamescom 2023
@FishyS September is when people are expecting Mario movie will be avalible for purchase
Re: It's Official, Nintendo Will Attend Gamescom 2023
We can assume nothing, remember that year where they had a direct right before E3 and then had basically nothing to annouce during their E3 Direct.
Re: The Voice Behind Mario Movie's 'Plumbing Commercial Lady' Has Been Revealed
@Murkyelm apprently it's anti woke because "the hero gets the girl" ... which A) he doesn't they sorta flirt B) im not sure how that's "antiwoke"
Re: Super Bomberman R 2 Explodes Onto Switch This September
Not going to lie, when I read "64" battles my brain went right to "ahh a battle mode based on Bomberman 64" and not "64 players" so I'm a little sad now.
Re: Feature: The Best References And Easter Eggs In The Super Mario Bros. Movie
I do think the sheer amount Easter eggs that show that a Mario less Nintendo exists in their world disputes the idea Nintendo is building one shared cinematic universe.
Which to be honest I'd prefer they didn't. I'd rather they have a bunch of different universes so we get a bunch of films that exist within that Mario/DK (and seemingly punch out) universe, one for Zelda, and one for Metroid/starfox/f-zero.
Don't get me wrong I'd love a Smash movie but it doesn't need all the characters coexisting in the same universe at the same time.
Re: Mario Movie Just The Beginning Of Nintendo & Illumination's "Rewarding Collaboration"
Said it before, Illumination (with Nintendo watching) is a good fit for Mario and DK, and anything that doesn't take itself too seriously (Splatoon and kirby could work with them) but they need to team up with different universal studios for different franchises. The How to Train Your Dragon team at Dreamworks would be fantastic for Zelda
Re: Poll: What Score Would You Give To The Super Mario Bros. Movie?
Enjoyed the hell out of it. It was a good sign to me and my daughter laughed at different times.
It's certainly doing the job Nintendo wanted, she spent they day and half since playing every Mario game we own.
Re: Movie Review: The Super Mario Bros. Movie - A Fun Ride That Substitutes Story For Spectacle
It does feel weird that people are expecting a lot of plot from a Mario movie. Don't get me wrong, pretty much any other Nintendo IP I get it but this is Mario, X needs rescuing is pretty much the only plot they have.
To me "spectacle over story" seems like the cinema version of "gameplay over story"
Re: Miyamoto On New Mario Game: "Please Stay Tuned For Future Nintendo Directs"
With Peach's role in the film and the ending of Odyessy A DLC/Standalone Peach spin-off or making her playable in a sequel makes a lot of sense.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Super Mario Bros. 2
I can't unsee the leg placement on the NA/EU one
Re: Poll: What Are Your Hype Levels for Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
For the sake of hype control I'm expecting "more BTOW"
Of cause I am hoping for more with all the time in dev it has.
Re: Sonic Origins Plus Reportedly Out In June, Adds Amy Rose And 12 Game Gear Games
Now that seems a lit better package tha last time, I'll wait for reviews but this is actively te pt8ng
Re: Let's Get Seasonal With Story Of Seasons: A Wonderful Life's Latest Trailer
"uh... what happened to 'Forget-Me-Not?"
They puts on some shades forgot.
...
I'll leave
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Burger Time Deluxe
Going NA because I don't think that's her arm holding the burger
Re: Numskull Games Reveals Coffee Talk: Double Pack Physical Edition
OOOH That is tempting
Re: Swery's Small Town Detective RPG 'The Good Life' Gets First DLC Next Month
I can't stress how much I wish this game was better.
Re: Microsoft's Commitment To Bring Call Of Duty To Nintendo Is Now Legally Binding
If you listen very carefully you can hear panic button screaming
Re: Feature: 19 Game Boy Games We'd Love To See On Nintendo Switch Online
I had Metal Gear it was a lot of fun, it really did nail the Metal Gear experience in its own GB way.
Re: Video: MVG Investigates Switch Online's "Impressive" Game Boy & GBA Emulation
@SwagaliciousJohnson I did see some article for another site that claimed it was coming in someform and that the video saying pokemon wont be transferable disappeared.
Though it seemed to be hinting at "Pokemon Stadium + RBY" being a thing, so the GB pokemon games would be played in the N64 game not part of GB NSO.
Re: Super Mario Bros. Movie Plumbing Commercial & Website Launched
@CaptChaos I thought that but there are a couple of details that sink that, even ignoring the "meta" things like the website, the woman is clearly using a smartphone. I think the visual and audio effects are "low budget" not "old"
Re: More Characters Seemingly Returning To Mario Kart 8 Deluxe In Future DLC Waves
@uptownsoul Smash is in the exact same place too. The next game will have a tiny roster in comparison. It seems like the best time to try something new with the two series to help deal with the "shrinkage" like giving smash characters all new movesets.
Re: Yes, Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Costs $70, Collector's Edition Announced
This is harder to swallow than other prise raises.
This isn't the tail end of a transition between generations resulting in higher costs, the switch is well established.
Sure the current cost of living I hitting everything and everyone with pricing to reflect that, and the switch tax has been a thing for some time but this isn't an all new project. Sure its a much larger project than their "major's mask" (or ac Brotherhood FC new dawn) style sequel.
Re: It's Official, Total Switch Sales Have Now Surpassed The Game Boy And PS4
I would wager the odds of Switch beating PS2 sales lies on if the next machine is backward compatible or not.
We saw the 3DS limp on for years thanks to it's massive library of good games, I can see the Switch doing the same if the next machine doesn't play Switch games natively. Limping over the PS2 sales before it stops being made.
If it's a "Switch 2" with full BC (or even a different machine that also plays Switch games) then I imagine sales would dry up much quicker.
Re: A New Fire Emblem Datamine Has Possibly Uncovered A Gap In The Main Timeline
This certainly fits the "Engage is just a hold over game" theory knocking about.
Re: UK Charts: Fire Emblem Engage Bags Franchise's Second Biggest Boxed Launch
@Zimon the common thread among other engage players I've spoken to is that the "reducing the socialising" hasn't resulted equal improvement in the combat or story.
Re: Soapbox: Fire Emblem Engage's Nintendo NYC Launch Felt Pretty Unengaging
@NinjaWaddleDee Its giving me weird FE Echoes flashes. Like this isn't the "NEXT FIRE EMBLEM" but a side thing to hold us over until the "NEXT" one.
Re: Random: Here's A Closer Look At Every Mario Movie McDonald's Toy
My daughter goes crazy for the cardboard toys, she treats them as puzzles throwing away the instructions (not that it matters much they are colour coordinated)
Re: Microsoft Enters "10-Year Commitment To Bring Call Of Duty To Nintendo"
I'm not sure about playing CoD MP crossplay via switch, the resolution and frame rate difference is bound to cause problems.
I'd gladly pay for some sort of collection. Like have a MW collection, Waw/BO collection. Have them work like the Master Cheif collection collect the campaigns then have some sort of universal MP