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@-wc- As Nintendo fans, these kind of concessions we (sadly) have to accept in order to enjoy their games.

You're asking for controls for serious people, but that's the issue right there, Nintendo doesn't focus purely on "serious" people anymore. Their device is designed to cater to a group as broad as possible - families, kids, casual players, handheld players and hardcore gamers. As a result, it's a console of compromises.

The previous ones were enjoyable, but I wonder if they can keep milking this much longer without things getting stale.

I do have some concerns about the durability of this idea. Magnets tend to lose some power over time and grow weaker.

I hope this was tested extensively…

When you start asking people money, you have to make sure what you’re doing is legal. This clearly isn’t.

A bit late to the party, but nice for everyone who's interested.

I do hope developers also have some unique things in store for Switch 2, and aren't just going to flood the system with ports and remakes...

They're probably right. I always got the latest Nintendo console on release date. The price has never been a deciding factor for me.

Switch 2 might change that though, as I'm not feeling the usual excitement with this one just yet.

I agree with @sleepinglion, the trailer was underwhelming. I hope the Direct is going to make up for it with some amazing games.

@IOI Why aren’t we allowed to feel underwhelmed by the hardware reveal? The new console is looking more conservative than many hoped for, so it’s a natural feeling to be a bit disappointed, especially without seeing proper games.

When the Direct has aired and we’ve seen what it can actually do, perhaps there will be more excitement. That doesn’t mean we can’t have opinions about the current state of things.

Bigger isn’t always better.

But it’s too early to tell whether or not it will be an improvement or not. I certainly have some reservations though, as it sounds like chaos will dominate over skill even more.

The European version actually differs a bit from the NA version. The EU doesn’t have a banner running across the art on the right side of the box, and it has a black frame around the image.

The difference is minimal, but still it would have been nice to see all the options.

@Banjo- Nice analysis. Yes, I think that’s spot on actually.

Why do you think they’re going in this direction to becoming more and more corporate? Just a sign of the times?

At the very least, they could've given the system a more appealing name than just smacking a "2" behind it. The argument of avoiding confusion like the Wii U doesn't hold much water.

The "Super Nintendo" and "Game Boy Advance", for example, did a great job telling people it's the next big thing without creating any confusion whatsoever.

Honestly, it would be ludicrous if the system called “Switch 2” wouldn’t be able to run Switch games.

The real question is if there will be a much needed performance boost for older games.

They gave credits. It was just not up to the standards of the people on the internet.

Yes, the leaks spoiled the reveal pretty much entirely.

It didn’t help that Nintendo hardly showed anything new that hadn’t been leaked already.

No surprise there. Their stocks always drops
after a new reveal.

Leaks are horrible. Not just this one, but almost every game reveal gets spoiled these days.

I love it! Gives me retro vibes.

@USWITCH64 I agree. Without realizing it at the times, the gimmicks they introduced in each new system always sparked a sense of excitement and curiosity.

The innovative features also made every long running franchise feel fresh again. What’s waiting for us now are just the “same” games again that we had on Switch, just looking a bit better.
Not saying that it won’t be good or fun, but it does lack the usual feeling of hype that normally comes with a new Nintendo console.

@Uncle_Franklin I feel you, I feel exactly the same. I wish it would excite me, like every console reveal has done in the past. But the new system doesn’t resonate with me at all. My age probably has something to do with it, but I think Nintendo itself is changing too.

Can you bring into words where your lack of excitement comes from in your opinion?

@larryisaman I agree that giving it a confusing name isn’t a smart idea. But just sticking a number to it is the other bad end in my opinion. Too bad they couldn’t find the golden middle way this time around. Glad for you that you’re happy with it though!

@larryisaman

They screwed up with the name and marketing of the Wii U, yes. But there never was any confusion when they named the “Super Nintendo”, “Game Boy Advance” or “3DS”, for example. Those systems paid homage to their predecessors and still made it very clear they were the next big thing.

Hopefully we’ll ever receive some inside information about why they suddenly opted for a numeric name. I’m very curious to hear the reasoning why they decided to break tradition with this one.

@the_beaver The article asked us to rate the reveal trailer, so I can’t take into account any potential games that may or may not release in the future.

I can only base my opinion on what I’ve seen right now. And that was simply underwhelming at this point, for me personally. But I’m happy for you if you’re all hyped up!

That's a strangely long wait. Makes me feel like today's reveal wasn't the original plan, but rushed out under the pressure of all the leaks.

@AstroTheGamosian I was thinking the same thing. It sort of feels like the pressure of the leaks made them drop a trailer earlier than they wanted, just to get it over with.

Where's the fun, the joy, the creativity? The things we came to love so much of Nintendo?

This teaser felt soulless and corporate-y. It really lacked that touch of "Nintendo magic".

Glad to have the confirmation again regarding backwards compatibility.

Hopefully we'll also see performance boosts and easy save game synchronisation.

@BTB20 Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it!

The idea for a mouse gimmick sounds nice on paper, but I doubt it'll really work out all that well in practice.

For one, you'd need to be able to put the "mouse" on a flat surface, which is typically not available for a console setup. Besides that, the controller doesn't look very comfortable to use if you hold it like that.

@BaldB3lper78 Thanks for pointing that out! I thought it was supposed to be a new Mario Kart game.

Weird move of them to show an old game in the reveal trailer of a new console, though.

Way too slick and stylish. I miss the spark of fun and imagination in this new machine.

It feels like Nintendo is a kid that has grownup.

@ottoecamn Yes that's true, we don't know what's under the hood. They might surprise us with the tech.

But judging from what I can see right now, it just feels like a very small step forward and not the launch of a full new generation. It gives me the same vibes like the GBA SP, DSi and New 3DS.

Is it just me, or doesn't this look like a next gen title at all? It honestly feels like I'm looking at a regular Switch game.

Not really the grand first impression you like to make with a new console...

Auch... They were clearly still afraid after what happened with the Wii U, so this time around they are playing it safe. Too safe. Which means we are now facing the other side of the medal - a complete lack of innovation and no real sense of wonder and excitement.

The lacklustre name "Switch 2" symbolises the machine perfectly I suppose.

@LadyCharlie It’s definitely not flat out worse than the 3DS version. It improved on certain areas, such as resolution and frame rate, while falling giving in on other aspects like loading times. So it depends what you personally value more.

It’s probably not worth getting it again if you already own it. But if you don’t, it’s still a phenomenal game.

Sadly, the world is just a much less respectful place then it used to be. Keeping things secret is not possible anymore.

Blogs, podcasts, social media, streaming channels… They are filled with vultures that just want the latest scoop for a moment of fame.

So stealing is bad? Glad to have an official clarification on that.

People can really overreact. Especially the ones saying they aren’t buying the game
because of this.

The drop from a 10/10 to a 7/10 is quite bizarre. The game is just as fun as back in the day.

I get that a minor penalty might be applied because of how little it adds, but a severe drop like this is a bit extreme imo…

Some reviews seem a bit on the harsh side and are throwing in some strange arguments. It’s a great game, highly recommended for everyone who hasn’t played it yet!

They credit the people that worked on this specific version of the game, a game which is based on the work of a different development team. Exactly as the credits state. Not sure this is worth all the fuzz.

It’s looking to become a major port fest. Hopefully there are also some completely new games in development by third parties, not just rereleases.

This is just sad…

@fenlix Can you please eleborate on that? I’ve checked the user agreement of various retro devices and games, but I can’t seem to find anything about that being the case back in the day.

As for modern gaming, I suppose you’re right. True ownership doesn’t exist anymore. And with physical copies often relying on additional downloads and patches, those lines are fading too.

@GameOtaku Sure it would be nice, but allowing people to play Nintendo games on different devices or a PC probably isn’t going to happen. Perhaps even for the best?

It’s also worth noting you don’t technically own most digital content you pay for, but you are granted a license to use it. But that’s a different discussion altogether.

@GameOtaku I have many iOS games from back in the days that I cannot play anymore, because the current devices don’t support them any longer. Nice for me that I still “own” them and that they are included in my account, but what’s the point if I can’t play them anymore?

My point is that it can never be guaranteed digital owned content will last. You’re always dependent that they keep supporting it down the road. That’s not real ownership in my book.

@GameOtaku @Tuulenpoika

It’s a different business approach which you could prefer or not, but it can still not guarantee preservation of your library in the future.

Let’s say in a worst case scenario Nintendo goes bankrupt and your account they are tied to goes down. You would still lose all of your “purchased” games.

Preservation is just very tricky with digital content and technology in general. Even physical cartridges have an expiration date and will stop working sometime.

I’m a big retro enthusiast and prefer to “own” the games. But that’s just a sentimental matter.

The NSO subscription service offers just so much more value for money, it’s hard to beat. Plus this way you’ll discover some titles that you had otherwise never purchased standalone. I like it more than the VC.

+1 vote for Smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario Odyssey and Metroid Dread.

It’s either canceled automatically because a certain time threshold has been passed, or they were informed the new selling price is going to be a lot higher than they initially charged.

@canaryfarmer Completely agree.

The “Switch 2” name feels way too bland and corporate for a fun and imaginative brand like Nintendo. I really hope this name turns out to be false…