Ok so why isn’t this being talked about, Mario Odyssey is adding ONLINE co-op. Currently Cappy only works on same screen. Soon it will work on two systems with improved performance ONLINE.
Nintendo in 2017 (I believe) release voice chat through the NSO app for selected games. And at the time it was pretty much all first party games that worked online. And Nintendo fans had a cow and moaned and moaned it was on the phone. The voice quality was awesome, the chat worked as expected and you could still use the chat while standing up and using the joy-cons. But as usual the gaming community just wanted Xbox Live Party chat while they t-rex with their controller.
Fast forward to 2025 - Nintendo releases GameChat ON DEVICE, 12 player voice chat with array microphone or wired/wireless headset. System wide works with all games. Everyone is like Meh. Why not just continue to use discord ON MY PHONE while I play.
Entire podcasts exist to MOCK the lack of voice chat on Nintendo's consoles.
I agree the choppy frame screen sharing is a bit weak, and the camera feels like Nintendo in the 2000's. But those are OPTIONAL. For the price of NSO you get proper system wide voice chat. And I can't tell you how big this will be for 3rd party gaming.
To be honest that is about what I expected. Kirby and Mario Party are offering straight up DLC for those games, of course they are going to cost extra. The only real question is will the graphical improvements be added if you don't upgrade to the DLC?
And while we are at it, if you laps your subscription to NSO + Expansion pack does your graphical upgrades for BOTW and TOTK go back to the original? Will the game visually downgrade or will you simply loose access to the Zelda Notes app?
Also - Will Nintendo be doing a Jamboree TV bundle with the Camera? It would make a ton of sense to bundle the two together.
We don't know what goes through the minds of Nintendo - but this HAD to be designed as a pack-in originally. And I think when they went to price the switch they couldn't go any higher than $450 so something had to go and it go cut from being a pack-in.
@Edd-O this large cartridges cost a fortune for Nintendo and publishers, trust me they will phase them out. Now they do have an out, the digital game cart, so physical but with download.
@StewdaMegaManNerd Well the Switch 2 supposedly has given more resources to the UI and systems. I would imagine they are using MUCH better browser code than 2017 and more RAM allocated. Additionally they now have WIFI 6. So if their web apps still run like slideshows than Nintendo really needs to sit in the corner.
Yes the download sucks, but let's compare this to PS5 and Xbox - You buy the Blu-ray disk work of game, usually 10 minutes or more downloading to your HDD - then the day 1 patch which can be as big as the disk install.
This is the reality of AAA gaming. The file sizes are too large to use flash carts without large extra costs. This fact alone nearly sunk the N64 compared to Playstation which used CD's.
I got the invite, the bloody 6 digit code take about an hour to come. SO the link times out before you can verify it and therefore you cannot order it. IT IS BROKEN AS HELL!
Don Matrick was facing criticism of the online only nature of Xbox One which had they stayed the course would have been incredible for physical collectors as they were going to have the best of physical and digital.
Physical games still needed online and downloads the vast majority of games anyway even on PS4! As it turned out to be a moot point.
Nintendo is making a sensible point, this new console is more expensive and if are not ready or able to upgrade the original Switch is still being supported.
My Nintendo Switch online lapsed slightly for the Black Friday deals and I didn’t get an email even though I have been a member since 2018 and spent thousands on the shop.
Specialist retailers like GAME are the worst place for Nintendo! They are FAR better working with Argos, grocery stores and Smyths.
I got my pre-order from Argos where a normal consumer will go to. GAME is now buried at the back of Sports Direct and is nothing more that overpriced toys now.
I would hope as they get more real world data they can improve the game chat windows even further, because they looked rough!
When Stadia was a thing having a second window where you see the other player was a killer feature for Ghost Recon. I could imagine it being similar for open world games where your working together.
Because of the friend code system you can change your gamertag anytime you want.
You don’t want to make it too easy for people to be your “friend” on Switch. As it is you can become friends with someone you friended on Mario Run or Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. So it still VERY easy to make friends on switch.
I think the Switch 1 direct was a mistake! They should have Twitter dropped everything and put the games in the Switch 2 direct. Third parties could get a separate direct later.
I think it kinda disappointed and now the wind is out of people sails a bit.
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Re: 12 Switch Games Are Getting Free Switch 2 Upgrades, Here's What You Can Expect
Ok so why isn’t this being talked about, Mario Odyssey is adding ONLINE co-op. Currently Cappy only works on same screen. Soon it will work on two systems with improved performance ONLINE.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Ghosting Switch 1 To Save Yourself For Switch 2?
I need my Switch for Labo and a second screen for all those secret Wii U games that are coming!
I am looking at you Nintendo Land
Re: Super Mario World Looks To Be The Official Name Of The Next Mario Movie
NINTENDO WHAT ARE YOU DOING! They really screwed themselves not calling the successor console the Super Switch!
All their marketing, and even now the movie is all Super Nintendo themed.
So sad.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited At All For Switch 2 GameChat?
Ok, ok, ok. I have allot to say about this.
Nintendo in 2017 (I believe) release voice chat through the NSO app for selected games. And at the time it was pretty much all first party games that worked online. And Nintendo fans had a cow and moaned and moaned it was on the phone. The voice quality was awesome, the chat worked as expected and you could still use the chat while standing up and using the joy-cons. But as usual the gaming community just wanted Xbox Live Party chat while they t-rex with their controller.
Fast forward to 2025 - Nintendo releases GameChat ON DEVICE, 12 player voice chat with array microphone or wired/wireless headset. System wide works with all games. Everyone is like Meh. Why not just continue to use discord ON MY PHONE while I play.
Entire podcasts exist to MOCK the lack of voice chat on Nintendo's consoles.
I agree the choppy frame screen sharing is a bit weak, and the camera feels like Nintendo in the 2000's. But those are OPTIONAL. For the price of NSO you get proper system wide voice chat. And I can't tell you how big this will be for 3rd party gaming.
Re: Nintendo Defends Switch 2's Perceived Lack Of Innovation
Imagine Nintendo made a console that wasn’t like the Switch, it would bomb and everyone would say “why didn’t you make a Switch 2?”
Now no themes, that is a slap in our faces.
Re: Nintendo Expects To Sell 15 Million Switch 2 Consoles This Financial Year
Wasn't their previous estimate 22 million by the end of fiscal year?
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Pre-Orders Now Open To All Paid NSO Members In The UK
Don’t worry at launch there will be more. No US tariffs in the UK so China will be glad to make em for us.
Re: Unlike Nintendo, EA's Game Prices Apparently Won't Be Rising Any Time Soon
They make all their money in microtransactions
Re: Grand Theft Auto 6 Has Been Delayed And Will Now Launch In May 2026
Take that Michael Pachter!
Well well looks like game companies can FINALLY announce some games for this holiday.
Re: Poll: After One Month, How Often Are You Actually Using 'Nintendo Today'?
I sync my Alarmo and Nintendo Today themes. I am committed to the ecosystem!
Re: Analyst Predicts Record-Breaking Launch Numbers For Switch 2
Gamers: Lower the price
Nintendo: record breaking sales
They got all the cards!
Re: Random: Masahiro Sakurai Finds Success In Switch 2 Lottery
Nintendo should be sending him one OMG!
Re: Switch 2 Launch Day Delivery "Not Guaranteed" From Nintendo In The US
Fans said, "lower the price"
Nintendo said, "No soup for you!"
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For Two More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
To be honest that is about what I expected. Kirby and Mario Party are offering straight up DLC for those games, of course they are going to cost extra. The only real question is will the graphical improvements be added if you don't upgrade to the DLC?
And while we are at it, if you laps your subscription to NSO + Expansion pack does your graphical upgrades for BOTW and TOTK go back to the original? Will the game visually downgrade or will you simply loose access to the Zelda Notes app?
Also - Will Nintendo be doing a Jamboree TV bundle with the Camera? It would make a ton of sense to bundle the two together.
Re: Switch 2 'Welcome Tour' Estimated File Size Revealed By Nintendo
We don't know what goes through the minds of Nintendo - but this HAD to be designed as a pack-in originally. And I think when they went to price the switch they couldn't go any higher than $450 so something had to go and it go cut from being a pack-in.
Re: Nintendo's Quiet 2024 Led To 26% Drop In Physical Game Sales (UK)
@Edd-O this large cartridges cost a fortune for Nintendo and publishers, trust me they will phase them out. Now they do have an out, the digital game cart, so physical but with download.
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Party Jamboree Rolls Its Way To Another Victory
Nintendolife - your tagline should have said, "You got a Zatar"
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
Just remember your regions currency may be HELLA inflated and the number might seem higher than $US £GBP
Re: Nintendo's Quiet 2024 Led To 26% Drop In Physical Game Sales (UK)
I am frankly surprised the Switch 2 even supports physical media still.
Digital is going to the future, and it is possible the Swifch 2 refresh ditches physical altogether.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Sneak Peek Of The Nintendo Switch Online Menu UI For Switch 2
@StewdaMegaManNerd Well the Switch 2 supposedly has given more resources to the UI and systems. I would imagine they are using MUCH better browser code than 2017 and more RAM allocated. Additionally they now have WIFI 6. So if their web apps still run like slideshows than Nintendo really needs to sit in the corner.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
Yes the download sucks, but let's compare this to PS5 and Xbox - You buy the Blu-ray disk work of game, usually 10 minutes or more downloading to your HDD - then the day 1 patch which can be as big as the disk install.
This is the reality of AAA gaming. The file sizes are too large to use flash carts without large extra costs. This fact alone nearly sunk the N64 compared to Playstation which used CD's.
Re: Poll: Did You Get A Switch 2 Purchase Invite From Nintendo Yet? (Europe)
@Speedbird100 I followed your advice and it worked
Re: Poll: Did You Get A Switch 2 Purchase Invite From Nintendo Yet? (Europe)
I got the invite, the bloody 6 digit code take about an hour to come. SO the link times out before you can verify it and therefore you cannot order it. IT IS BROKEN AS HELL!
I ordered mine from Argos.
Re: Some Fans Are Drawing Unfavourable Comparisons Between Switch 2 And Xbox One
Don Matrick was facing criticism of the online only nature of Xbox One which had they stayed the course would have been incredible for physical collectors as they were going to have the best of physical and digital.
Physical games still needed online and downloads the vast majority of games anyway even on PS4! As it turned out to be a moot point.
Nintendo is making a sensible point, this new console is more expensive and if are not ready or able to upgrade the original Switch is still being supported.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
My Nintendo Switch online lapsed slightly for the Black Friday deals and I didn’t get an email even though I have been a member since 2018 and spent thousands on the shop.
Sad.
Re: UK Switch 2 Fans, Don't Bother Going To GAME Stores For Your Pre-Order
Specialist retailers like GAME are the worst place for Nintendo! They are FAR better working with Argos, grocery stores and Smyths.
I got my pre-order from Argos where a normal consumer will go to. GAME is now buried at the back of Sports Direct and is nothing more that overpriced toys now.
Re: Switch 2 GameChat Choppy Frame Rate Explained By Nintendo
I would hope as they get more real world data they can improve the game chat windows even further, because they looked rough!
When Stadia was a thing having a second window where you see the other player was a killer feature for Ghost Recon. I could imagine it being similar for open world games where your working together.
Re: There's A New Way To Add Friends On Nintendo Switch 2
Because of the friend code system you can change your gamertag anytime you want.
You don’t want to make it too easy for people to be your “friend” on Switch. As it is you can become friends with someone you friended on Mario Run or Animal Crossing Pocket Camp. So it still VERY easy to make friends on switch.
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Wind Waker Is On Switch 2 - Do You Still Want A WW:HD Port?
Nintendo is likely looking to port of over one of the DS games and will bundle Wind Waker HD with it.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
$80 for physical (even code in a box) BUT cheaper for digital.
Those new cartridges must cost allot to manufacture! I think it is a cost thing, because digital is getting bump, not as extreme.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 'GameShare' Brings A New Way To Play Locally On Multiple Systems
Captain Toad and Mario Odessey are getting ONLINE CO-OP on Switch 2 with this feature!
Re: Opinion: No One Is Talking About The Switch 2's Best Feature
4K Rumble - what they should have called it
Re: EA Commits To Switch 2, Will Be Bringing EA Sports FC And Madden NFL To The System
@Tasuki EA released Need for Speed and Mass Effect 3 at launch on Wii U but due to dire sales they dropped all support after that.
Re: EA Commits To Switch 2, Will Be Bringing EA Sports FC And Madden NFL To The System
How about Battlefield and the Sims!
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
Read this article - Nintendo has been here before
https://www.ign.com/articles/1997/04/30/outrageous-uk-n64-price-dropped
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
Here is my prediction, Black Friday Mk World bundle will also include the welcome game free as a pack in.
HONESTLY Nintendo should give it free at least to NSO + Expansion pack members!
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
Face it Nintendo will sell this like hot cakes and might even outsell MK8 Deluxe.
Re: Switch 2 Mario Kart World Bundle Will Be A "Limited Time" Offer
This will be the bundle for black friday the next 8 years.
Re: Yep, Metroid Prime 4's Box Art For Switch 2 Is... Corrupted
Everything they are doing with physical just screams to me BUY Digital!!
Nintendo is nudging everyone digital.
Re: Switch 2 Games Cost A Bit More Than You're Probably Expecting
@Patendo people been waiting for sales for 8 years on switch!
Re: Nintendo Expects You To Pay For Its Switch 2 "Welcome Tour" User Guide
It reminds me of Labo and Game Builder Garage - it will probably justify the price, but come on Nintendo it should have been a pre-loaded pack in!
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
Let me just say this, go digital, the games are even cheaper.
Re: GameCube Games Confirmed For Nintendo Switch Online On Switch 2
Star Fox RIP - come on Nintendo
Re: Round Up: It's April Fools' Day, Here Are The Best Gaming Gags We've Seen (2025)
I am still waiting for Echo the Dolphin 2: Water Wars - A First Porpus Shooter.
https://seganeptune.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/sega-usa-reveals-ecco-water-wars-2/
Re: Halo: Master Chief Collection For Switch 2 May Not Launch In Its 'Complete' Form
It's 2025 Nintendo is about to release a mouse and we are talking about Halo coming to a Nintendo console! This is nuts!
Re: Hang On, Are People More Excited For Tomodachi Life Than Switch 2?
I think the Switch 1 direct was a mistake! They should have Twitter dropped everything and put the games in the Switch 2 direct. Third parties could get a separate direct later.
I think it kinda disappointed and now the wind is out of people sails a bit.
Re: Legend Of Zelda Movie Release Date Revealed, Coming March 2027
I literally just scrolled through and saw that was like WTF!! This app is ligit!
Re: 'Nintendo Today', A New Mobile App, Will Deliver Fresh Switch 2 News Every Day
@RupeeClock DIRECT to you is what the man said!
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition (Switch) - An Underrated Gem Transforms Into The Series' Best
The original release Iwata Ask with Monolith Soft
https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wiiu/xenoblade-chronicles-x/0/0/
Re: Nintendo & Pokémon Company Had An "Adversarial Relationship", Say Former NOA Staffers
Nintendo needs to buy complete control of the Pokemon company or cut them loose.