Without any inside knowledge whatsoever here is my theory.
Nintendo announced allot of stuff would come to NSO and it made it sound like an Xbox Live or PSN type service. Instead we got a half baked app experience which only allows for certain Nintendo only games to use voice chat. No party chat, no messaging and servers that barely work.
Remember they delayed NSO until fall of 2018. It was on the backdrop of their terrible online service they announced NES games would come to switch. These were pretty much all first party owned and were already emulated for the NES Classic.
The was never meant to be a proper service of NES games, just to shut up critics of the online paywall.
Then they knew they needed more so they did SNES games. But note no new features really.
Then Nintendo made the Expansion Pak again no third party N64 games and some expansions with it, but at a much higher price.
They have no intention in ever offering a proper gamepass style service with NSO. It is just a way to make extra revenue while they spend virtually nothing on it. They finally upgraded their early 2000's online infrastructure but where is the upgrades to the online service?
Nintendo this generations knows they struck gold with Switch. And rather then the expensive gimmicks like StreetPass, Miiverse and other stuff they used to do, they decided to just make money and not spend money. Nintendo is in a pure cash mode.
We of course buy it because they keep the family jewels locked away (Gamecube, GBA, etc) until they find the right moment to sell it to us again.
It is the same for the Mario Kart Booster Course Pass. All of the tracks are ripped straight out of Mario Kart Tour. So they are making money on the tracks twice! Even the original tracks and remakes are meant for MK Tour. This is how come they are willing to make so many tracks, MK Tour loot boxes are paying for it. The booster course pass is just extra revenue for Nintendo.
I gonna be honest, those commercials/adverts hit the feels like those McDonald's ads do in the UK. I think they are perfect for those casuals in Japan. Look how clubhouse games 51 worldwide classics are still being shown off. What a perfect showcase for a fun family device that little kids and parents can play or teens or 20 somethings.
I think it was IGN did an article about the negatives of working for Nintendo and lack of advancement opportunities was top of the list. So I think people want to go higher need to leave Nintendo.
Given that casuals are the likely audience for Mario Party do you think they would even know if there was DLC for this game? Wouldn't it make sense to just release a new game every year or so?
"I'd still pick the SNES version if I could only have one F-Zero," - Damien McFerran
Well if you own the NSO Expanion Pak you don't need to choose. You get both games for one price. Let's hope someday the Gamecube and Gameboy versions comes.
I was hoping to go to Florida next year as I never been to Disney World only Disneyland California. But now I am wondering if I should go to California, it will be my only chance to see Nintendo World.
Even without a shortage the Switch is quickly saturating the market and it's getting long in the tooth. The economy is going to hell in most western nations so spending on entertainment is going to go down.
Nintendo knows this and that is why they now have theme parks and feature films coming out. Also they are probably making far more revenue per switch then they were with say the Wii or DS in game attach and digital subscriptions.
I think the Pokemon company are dumb as bricks. They put the dumb swirl mobile game on Switch and yet cannot put their widely successful card game which they actively spending money to develop on switch?
They may announce this later on but which genius is running their marketing and just ignores Nintendo.
Here is how I would do it. I would do it at the game awards and have Reggie come out on stage. People will assume it is related to something else and have him start talking and then some plant in the front row shouts, "hey reggie give us Mother 3." and then a pause, and he says, "ok".
Clearly someone at Activision got hit on the head, Cod used to be on anything from toasters to smart fridges every year. And then one day Nintendo makes a console that can run cod well with paid online and Activision says no???
Look it is clear Rockstar has some Junior intern team somewhere that were probably given six months to knock out this quick port. And so they spent bare minimum on doing it and sold it for sixty bucks. Of course it did well!
I predict the next Nintendo console will ditch any physical media and be entirely downloadable. Or at least will have a cheaper model which is digital only.
I tried it on the Switch OLED docked. WiFi 5ghz close to the router. It ran absolutely fine. You can tell it is no 4k version but it is good looking still.
Personally I think cloud is a good idea for the Switch. As long as the publishers make sure the compacity is there. If you want games like Phantasy Star Online 2 on the Switch it would need something like cloud.
Xbox One launched with NO games for Kinect 2.0. Considering it was packed in the box Microsoft did almost nothing with the camera. Kinect Sports Rivals eventually launched but it was a whole new art style leaving behind the personality of the Avatars. But it makes sense as most of the features of the Xbox 360 were abandoned and Xbox One was fairly barebones at launch.
You do realise that the games shown at the reveal is all the N64 games we will get. This is no gamepass style service. This is a way to sell you a bunch of DLC and A few back catalog games most don't care about. They don't bother involving any 3rd party companies. Like with SNES where is the 3rd party games? It is pure profit for them where most companies would sell them as a collection for $40 a long time ago.
I could by wrong but doesn't Doug Bowser have ZERO say in the development of Nintendo Products and games?? Other then what purple colour to make the button on the NES
I was gonna say Why the HELL has this not been announced for Switch. Nintendo needs to get more hands on with the Pokemon company and start doing more then selling teddies and overpriced chairs
Imagine if Phil Spencer and Doug Bowser come out and announce Goldeneye for N64 Online and Gamepass. The two companies have agreed to share the license.
I like the expansion pack as I sat through the Animal Crossing directing thinking I was going to be buying the AC DLC and the N64 expansion. And honestly I believe the service will grow in games and platforms over time.
Also I pay for the family pack so everyone can use their own profiles in my house.
I wish the Mario Switch was OLED. That was the one I wanted. Truth is the white Dock would not look as good in my living room. My wife would hate it, and so she doesn't even realise it is the upgraded one.
@Darkyoshi98 Did you know you can order the game from official Nintendo Store and receive the digital eShop code but also any pre-order physical bonuses as well such as sricker sheets, keychains, etc.
I only played the original Metroid on the NES as a kid, I remember beating it over a weekend at a friend's house. I also saw how crazy collector rare the Samus Returns collector edition was so splurged for the Special Edition. It is really nice!
Also got the new Switch OLED but went for black as the white would not look good in my living room.
Nintendo will sell out of all Switch OLED's. But I think the lack of a huge Animal Crossing type release on the horizon investors are not as interested. Nintendo doesn't care because when they win they win big.
Here is a fact. Square-Enix is not going to re-port 10 games to run on the underpowered Switch. Even games like KH3 would not run at all or look horrible. This is the only way we are seeing KH on the Switch. If you prefer to own the games and boxes then there are other platforms which you already own including PC which you can do that.
Cloud streaming is going to be way more common as we go forward so prepare your expectations.
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Re: Former Nintendo Employee Admits He's Frustrated With Switch Online
Without any inside knowledge whatsoever here is my theory.
Nintendo announced allot of stuff would come to NSO and it made it sound like an Xbox Live or PSN type service. Instead we got a half baked app experience which only allows for certain Nintendo only games to use voice chat. No party chat, no messaging and servers that barely work.
Remember they delayed NSO until fall of 2018. It was on the backdrop of their terrible online service they announced NES games would come to switch. These were pretty much all first party owned and were already emulated for the NES Classic.
The was never meant to be a proper service of NES games, just to shut up critics of the online paywall.
Then they knew they needed more so they did SNES games. But note no new features really.
Then Nintendo made the Expansion Pak again no third party N64 games and some expansions with it, but at a much higher price.
They have no intention in ever offering a proper gamepass style service with NSO. It is just a way to make extra revenue while they spend virtually nothing on it. They finally upgraded their early 2000's online infrastructure but where is the upgrades to the online service?
Nintendo this generations knows they struck gold with Switch. And rather then the expensive gimmicks like StreetPass, Miiverse and other stuff they used to do, they decided to just make money and not spend money. Nintendo is in a pure cash mode.
We of course buy it because they keep the family jewels locked away (Gamecube, GBA, etc) until they find the right moment to sell it to us again.
It is the same for the Mario Kart Booster Course Pass. All of the tracks are ripped straight out of Mario Kart Tour. So they are making money on the tracks twice! Even the original tracks and remakes are meant for MK Tour. This is how come they are willing to make so many tracks, MK Tour loot boxes are paying for it. The booster course pass is just extra revenue for Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Releases Two Utterly Charming Switch Commercials In Japan
I gonna be honest, those commercials/adverts hit the feels like those McDonald's ads do in the UK. I think they are perfect for those casuals in Japan. Look how clubhouse games 51 worldwide classics are still being shown off. What a perfect showcase for a fun family device that little kids and parents can play or teens or 20 somethings.
It really is a super versatile little console!
Re: Samantha Robertson Has Left Nintendo Of America After 11 Years
I think it was IGN did an article about the negatives of working for Nintendo and lack of advancement opportunities was top of the list. So I think people want to go higher need to leave Nintendo.
Re: Mario Party Superstars Updated To Version 1.1.1, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Given that casuals are the likely audience for Mario Party do you think they would even know if there was DLC for this game? Wouldn't it make sense to just release a new game every year or so?
That way they see it on the shelf at Walmart.
Re: Video: TT Games Talks About 'Building The Galaxy' In LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga
They have some cheek doing these interviews giving how bad the development has gone.
Re: Review: F-Zero X - The Best The Series Has To Offer
"I'd still pick the SNES version if I could only have one F-Zero," -
Damien McFerran
Well if you own the NSO Expanion Pak you don't need to choose. You get both games for one price. Let's hope someday the Gamecube and Gameboy versions comes.
Re: Hooray! Universal Studios Hollywood Will Be Getting Its Own Super Nintendo World
I was hoping to go to Florida next year as I never been to Disney World only Disneyland California. But now I am wondering if I should go to California, it will be my only chance to see Nintendo World.
Re: Nintendo Switch Led UK Console Sales In February, But Numbers Are Down Year-On-Year
Even without a shortage the Switch is quickly saturating the market and it's getting long in the tooth. The economy is going to hell in most western nations so spending on entertainment is going to go down.
Nintendo knows this and that is why they now have theme parks and feature films coming out. Also they are probably making far more revenue per switch then they were with say the Wii or DS in game attach and digital subscriptions.
Re: Oops! Lego Just Accidentally Revealed A Princess Peach Set
My Lego Mario fund has dried up sadly. I bought the Airship which is fantastic. I was hoping for Peaches Castle and now we have it.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online App Version 2.0.0 Includes Biggest Updates Yet
Give us chat and party chat voice options! I hope this update is to telegraph those updates in the future.
Re: Some Trainers Are Worried About Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Returning To "Traditional" Catching Mechanics
In Sword and Shield you just needed a quick ball and you can catch most things anyway.
Re: Pac-Man Museum+ Will Bring The Retro Vibes To Switch In May
This would be awesome if you could have other classic arcade games besides just pac-man
Re: 'Missions And Rewards' Added To Nintendo Switch Online
If you don't go online then nobody is going to see your icons anyway, so your not missing out.
Re: Nintendo's "Inhumane" Virtual Boy Testing Process Likened To 'A Clockwork Orange'
Now in Europe they just tie you down and shoot you with hastily approved drugs.
Re: Video: Check Out This Artisanal Range Of Mouthful Kirbys Made Out Of Clay
It was missed opportunity to not have a Carby Amibo.
Re: Pokémon Trading Card Game Live 'Limited Beta' Starts In Canada Next Week
I think the Pokemon company are dumb as bricks. They put the dumb swirl mobile game on Switch and yet cannot put their widely successful card game which they actively spending money to develop on switch?
They may announce this later on but which genius is running their marketing and just ignores Nintendo.
Re: Mother 3 Producer Would "Love To See" GBA Entry Receive A Worldwide Release
Here is how I would do it. I would do it at the game awards and have Reggie come out on stage. People will assume it is related to something else and have him start talking and then some plant in the front row shouts, "hey reggie give us Mother 3." and then a pause, and he says, "ok".
Trailer plays, mic drops and the place goes wild.
Re: Microsoft Wants Call Of Duty On Switch, Along With Other "Popular" Activision Blizzard Games
People are still playing Black Ops 2 on Wii U.
Clearly someone at Activision got hit on the head, Cod used to be on anything from toasters to smart fridges every year. And then one day Nintendo makes a console that can run cod well with paid online and Activision says no???
Re: Square Enix Releases "Day 1 Patch" For Kingdom Hearts' Cloud Versions On Switch
@Bret Because it has Nintendo on the system publishers refuse to spend any money and instead squat and ***** on us.
Re: Square Enix Releases "Day 1 Patch" For Kingdom Hearts' Cloud Versions On Switch
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Re: Best Nintendo Switch Card Games, Board Games And Deck Builders
Why isn't hearthstone on Switch? I mean does Blizzard not like money?
Sega bring back Phantasy Star Online C.A.R.D. from the Gamecube.
Re: Metroid Prime Dev Confirms That Nintendo Blocked The Addition Of Super Metroid To The Game
@Vincent294 The problem is as soon as the development is done there isn't a need for those people.
Re: Grand Theft Auto Trilogy Has "Done Just Great" Despite Disastrous Launch
Look it is clear Rockstar has some Junior intern team somewhere that were probably given six months to knock out this quick port. And so they spent bare minimum on doing it and sold it for sixty bucks. Of course it did well!
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask Is Being Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack In February
drip drip...
hey reggie give us mother 3
Re: Random: Here's How Nintendo Makes Sure Switch Game Cards Are Fit For Purpose
I predict the next Nintendo console will ditch any physical media and be entirely downloadable. Or at least will have a cheaper model which is digital only.
Re: Kingdom Hearts Cloud Collection Arrives On Switch In February, Pricing Revealed
I tried it on the Switch OLED docked. WiFi 5ghz close to the router. It ran absolutely fine. You can tell it is no 4k version but it is good looking still.
Personally I think cloud is a good idea for the Switch. As long as the publishers make sure the compacity is there. If you want games like Phantasy Star Online 2 on the Switch it would need something like cloud.
Re: Nintendo Minute's Kit And Krysta Say Goodbye In Their "Final Episode"
They had to go to make room for more Cat Mario Show.
Seriously it is an end of the era.
Re: Switch Was UK's Bestselling Console In December With A 'Dominant' Performance
Someone needs to go back to 2013 and tell me "Yes Virginia there is a Santa Clause." "And Nintendo is outselling playstation and xbox!"
Re: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Calamity Has Now Shipped Over 4 Million Units
I cannot wait for Star Fox Warriors.
Re: Bill Gates Apparently Put "A Lot Of Pressure" On Xbox's Team Leaders To Respond To The Wii Craze
Xbox One launched with NO games for Kinect 2.0. Considering it was packed in the box Microsoft did almost nothing with the camera. Kinect Sports Rivals eventually launched but it was a whole new art style leaving behind the personality of the Avatars. But it makes sense as most of the features of the Xbox 360 were abandoned and Xbox One was fairly barebones at launch.
Re: Commodore 64 Games Are Being Teased For Nintendo Switch
@gregmce Archon is my jam!
Re: Talking Point: Should The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Library Expand Faster?
You do realise that the games shown at the reveal is all the N64 games we will get. This is no gamepass style service. This is a way to sell you a bunch of DLC and A few back catalog games most don't care about. They don't bother involving any 3rd party companies. Like with SNES where is the 3rd party games? It is pure profit for them where most companies would sell them as a collection for $40 a long time ago.
Re: Adorable Animal Crossing Dodo Airlines Reusable Bag Appears On My Nintendo Europe
I saw this but didn't have enough plat points
Re: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit Version 2.0.0 Is Now Available - Adds Split-Screen Multiplayer And More
So is this game dead or not??? Are we getting more karts or not??
Re: Doug Bowser (Kind Of) Addresses Complaints About Switch Online's Nintendo 64 Emulation
I could by wrong but doesn't Doug Bowser have ZERO say in the development of Nintendo Products and games?? Other then what purple colour to make the button on the NES
Re: Random: Smash Bros. Director Masahiro Sakurai Just Bought An Xbox Series X
@Anti-Matter It also cannot play any Kinect games (by design)
Re: GTA Trilogy's Physical Edition On Switch Appears To Require A Download
Poor Xbox Series S customers have a 100gb install for GTA V which is like a third of the drive l!
Re: Pokémon Trading Card Game Live Has Been Delayed Until 2022
I was gonna say Why the HELL has this not been announced for Switch. Nintendo needs to get more hands on with the Pokemon company and start doing more then selling teddies and overpriced chairs
Re: Pikmin Bloom Is Now Available To Download Across Europe, Asia And Africa
I think Nintendo needs to stick with console games. Niantic games are boring.
Re: Rare's N64 Classic GoldenEye 007 Is No Longer "Banned" In Germany
Imagine if Phil Spencer and Doug Bowser come out and announce Goldeneye for N64 Online and Gamepass. The two companies have agreed to share the license.
Re: Poll: The Hype For Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy Is High, Is It In Your Switch Plans?
I believe the physical version will be a massive collectors item in the future and is the one to get.
Re: Random: Uh-Oh, Nintendo's Switch Online 'Expansion Pack - Overview Trailer' Is Generating A Lot Of Dislikes
I like the expansion pack as I sat through the Animal Crossing directing thinking I was going to be buying the AC DLC and the N64 expansion. And honestly I believe the service will grow in games and platforms over time.
Also I pay for the family pack so everyone can use their own profiles in my house.
Re: Don't Worry, You'll Still Have Access To "Certain Things" From Animal Crossing's DLC When Your NSO Sub Expires
@ItsOKToBeOK buy the dlc if you want to pay once.
Re: Poll: So, Which Switch OLED Did You Buy?
I wish the Mario Switch was OLED. That was the one I wanted. Truth is the white Dock would not look as good in my living room. My wife would hate it, and so she doesn't even realise it is the upgraded one.
Re: The Localised Mario Party Superstars Overview Trailer Is Very Enthusiastic
@Darkyoshi98 Did you know you can order the game from official Nintendo Store and receive the digital eShop code but also any pre-order physical bonuses as well such as sricker sheets, keychains, etc.
Re: Poll: What's A Fair Price For The Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack?
I think an extra £10 to the family plan is fair.
Re: Poll: Metroid Dread Is Out Today On Switch, Are You Getting It?
I only played the original Metroid on the NES as a kid, I remember beating it over a weekend at a friend's house. I also saw how crazy collector rare the Samus Returns collector edition was so splurged for the Special Edition. It is really nice!
Also got the new Switch OLED but went for black as the white would not look good in my living room.
Re: Nintendo Share Value Continues Downward Trend As Major Investor Reportedly 'Dumps' Stock
Nintendo will sell out of all Switch OLED's. But I think the lack of a huge Animal Crossing type release on the horizon investors are not as interested. Nintendo doesn't care because when they win they win big.
Re: 'Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece' Collection Brings The Entire Saga To Switch
Here is a fact. Square-Enix is not going to re-port 10 games to run on the underpowered Switch. Even games like KH3 would not run at all or look horrible. This is the only way we are seeing KH on the Switch. If you prefer to own the games and boxes then there are other platforms which you already own including PC which you can do that.
Cloud streaming is going to be way more common as we go forward so prepare your expectations.
Re: Apple Made More Profit From Games In 2019 Than Nintendo, Sony And Microsoft Combined
Them $40 skins x 10000000000000 mobile games. Lot's of whales!