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Latest PS4 Sales Figures Take it Past Wii U Life-to-Date Q3 Total

Posted by Thomas Whitehead

Momentum suggests current or imminent overtake

While we may have acknowledged — with a cheeky wink — the recent landmark of the Wii U sales surpassing those of Xbox 360 in Japan, the latest worldwide figures in the current generation remind us that, in terms of a sales footrace, Nintendo has already lost much of its advantage of launching a year before its rivals.

Sony's PS4 has been comfortably outperforming other systems since its launch for the Holiday season last year, showing greater momentum than Microsoft's Xbox One. The company has now announced that the PS4 has passed six million sales, helped along by the Japanese launch of the console. As Gamasutra observes, its momentum is slowing down after an initial launch typified by high demand and hard-to-find stock, with units now more readily available. Nevertheless, by passing six million units at this stage it's well beyond Sony's projections and may have even officially overtaken the Wii U in lifetime sales. Nintendo's latest figures for the system were 5.86 million on 31st December; the company has projected an additional 390,000 sales up to 31st March, which if met would take the console to 6.25 million in that period. With current momentum, it would seem the PS4 and Wii U are roughly level, with Sony's system likely to formally surpass Nintendo's system in the near future.

As the past generation showed — with PS3 enduring a poor start before eventually regaining ground on the Xbox 360 — a system runs a marathon. Nintendo's hope will be that by this time next year its home console will be on an upward trend and securing solid sales; there are big-hitters on the way to try and deliver that end result.


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2Sang said:

Obvious. As much as I love ninty, I have to admit PS4 is a superior console by far to the wii u. I'm still hoping wii u can place 2nd this gen though.



Heng-Yu said:

That was quick.

I guess with such a big consumer base, publishers will be willing to invest even more into the development of their games. As it is more likely to grow than that of the WiiU.



withoutdk said:


superior indeed... but nintendo sure has some quality software that the PS will never get
but yeah... i will probably buy one at some point myself also



Jazzer94 said:

Faster than I ever imagined possible considering the year head start the Wii U had.



JudgeMethos said:

They are both great but I will say I enjoy my Wii U a bit more than my PS4 only because my Wii U has the more fun games now. They're both good to have at this point. PS4 is a great system but WatchDogs is one of the handful of games I want for that system now. May even get it for a Wii U if it reviews good and the controls are better for the system.



MikeLove said:

Why would you report this story in this way?? Why do you always have to take the negative route when posting stories like this?! This is a NINTENDO site! I and many others come here for good news.

Change the headline to the more positive "Nintendo is very close to reaching PS4 lifetime sales" please!



AlternateButtons said:

@2Sang Superior console? I don't think so. The PS4 is merely a souped up PS3 in my opinion. It doesn't really show much innovation nor does it have any noteworthy titles to speak of. I don't think the PS4 really deserves the praise it gets.



Emblem said:

@2Sang I don't know about that, my PS4 has yet to prove itself a worthwhile purchase, I'm hoping the incoming infamous changes that though.

I think PS4 has more obvious potential than the Wii U but only time will tell if that potential is reached in full.



Azooooz said:

Anyone who's surprised by this news must have been living under the rock. Sony's marketing hype was way too much than Nintendo's, despite a few exclusive titles for it. Hopefully Nintendo can turns things up for the Wii U this year (at least this year's E3).



siavm said:

@JohnRedcorn dude you trying to be funny? Ps4 probably beaten the wii u sales now. That has happening and with the way things are going nintendo does not look like it can change that. I just hope nintendo gets on the ball this year and releases games on time.



Gamer83 said:

As a PS4 owner I wish Sony would 'celebrate' this news by announcing some games.



ToniK said:

Even at this early point it's pretty safe to say that this generation won't be much of a competition. I just hope Wii U will eventually get plenty of games although I'm pretty much forced to buy PS4 at some point for certain games. It's all good though, let's not be too serious about these things, mmmkay?



rjejr said:

@JohnRedcorn - Good job mocking most of the posts from a few weeks ago, very well played. Some people might need 1 of these though.

That delayed Japanese launch probably looks pretty good in retrospect for Sony, just as PS4 sales were slowing down - BOOM - nearly 400k in a week, in the slow sales month of Feb. Good for them.

Now that thats out of the way, at least we can all stop caring about "console wars" as the Wii U is just it's own thing and Nintendo doesn't care so why should we? Now its really just all about the games.



GraveLordXD said:

What's with all this superior console talk
Realistically for me I'm trying to hunt down a ps4 right when I get home from vacation and I'm struggling to find a game to go with it
If I had to choose right now what console to get if I didn't already have a Wii u that's what I'll pick Mario 3d world and dktp beats anything on ps4 right now by a huge margin (my opinion)



Gate_Shikimuri said:

Meh, Wii U is still more fun. Call back when the PS4 obtains more fun-to-play, gameplay-more-than-or-equal-to-graphics games.



2Sang said:

la la la not listening to facts la la la. Nintendo can do no wrong la la la.

On a side note, I don't think I ever told you that I like your username. Beavis and Butthead might be remade soon also for some new episodes.



rjejr said:

@LDXD - Wii U game line-up is far superior ATM, but I'ld tell anybody at this point to at least wait for MK8 and a price dropped bundle. And if they didnt want MK8 wait for a fall price drop and SSB.

I personally won't buy a PS4 until the $299 slim version, there's nothing there right now that cant wait. BUT come spring alot of Americans need their MLB fix, and Madden in the fall. And now that PS4 and X1 are out - so no more ifs, buts and whens - I think those 2 sports games might be a problem for Wii U going forward. Along w/ MGS and W_D if the Wii U version gets canceled.

Anybody still on the fence might as well wait until E3 to see how the rest of the year plays out.



Gerbwmu said:

Sony is doing much better then I expected thus far as I thought 6 million by November would have been a great number for them. I wonder if Mario Kart 8 has the power to push Wii U over PS4 sales totals?



IronMan28 said:

Well, obviously PS4 is winning, it's objectively superior to the Wii U. Sales prove something is objectively good or better than something else, right?



unrandomsam said:

@Guitardude7 It is not a souped up PS3 it is a cheap and nasty out of date PC with very expensive ports on it. It should have been whatever Battlefield 4 needs for 1080p/60fps max setttings. At least.



ikki5 said:

with the way people talked about it, I thought this was going to happen sooner. I guess in 3 years, we may see a similar post about the Xbox One.. if it still selling by then



Peach64 said:

Sony learned from their (many) mistakes with the PS3 and I just hope Nintendo can do the same, especially in making it easy to develop for.

PS4 could be in with a chance of surpassing PS2 totals, as they'll expect to retain a high portion of PS3 owners and take those 360 and Wii owners that have been unimpressed with their successors.



Gerbwmu said:

@rjejr - I will miss not having a baseball game on my Wii U. Maybe Nintendo can publish it's own. Ken Griffey Jr for SNES was great fun. I'd be happy If they threw that on VC.

Football games haven't been good in a while IMO though so the Madden/NCAA thing doesn't bother me but it definitely hurts sales in the States.



MikeLove said:


Ya Mike Judge started making new episodes a couple years ago. I liked Beavis and Butthead when I was a kid, but it hasn't held up as well. I still watched the new ones, but didn't enjoy them as much as I did the original run.

King of the Hill, especially the first six seasons, is one of the greatest comedy series of all time though! Still watch it weekly.



MrGawain said:

I don't think there was any doubt the PS4 was going to sell heaps to the 'core gamer' crowd. It's the follow on to a successful system, it has the most impressive specs and therefore people want 3rd party games on it instead of the Xbox one, plus there hasn't been the negative press the other 2 have suffered. The only thing I question is beyond 3rd party titles, what will be the key titles that aren't available elsewhere that will make Ps3 and 360, owners buy it? What will make Xbox one owners buy one that they can't get on their system? What will spark the interest for the casual who doesn't spend £350 without deep thought? What could they offer me to buy one? Because at the moment, you could still argue there is little that is worth buying it for that unique. And I question is there much in the near future that will change that?

As for the Nintendo, their job is not to beat the sales of the PS4, but in any way make a profit from the Wii U, by either selling enough consoles, or more likely, enough games per console. They aren't competing against Sony, they are competing against costs to make profit.



Fill-N said:

i thought ps4 would sell ALMOST 5 million until march 31th. didnt count on the power of sony's marketing last year. that is great for them.
i was expecting 4 million xbox1 and 6 million wiiu in the same period. that seems about right so far.



GraveLordXD said:

@rjejr man you know how hard it is to wait!? I don't mind the price of the ps4 I think $400 is very reasonable I will however have to upgrade and get a bigger hard drive considering you are forced to even install physical games. There's a few games I want that come out near the end of the year I have money left from income tax that I know if I don't get the ps4 it will soon burn a whole in my pocket and I'll buy something really dumb so I might as well get it out the way
As for what system is more superior for me it all comes down to games so its always gonna be a personal preference right now its the Wii u for me I'm sure the ps4 will have a great library of games before its all said and done



IronMan28 said:

@JohnRedcorn is one of the worst characters on King of the Hill. You couldn't have picked Cotton? If you had, I'd be more keen on your ridiculous posts, at least I could believe Cotton being a complete a** all the time.



DreamOn said:

But PS Vita is still trailing 3DS. To me it's clear: There isn't a great market anymore for one brand to sell two separate systems and meet/exceed expectations for both.

I don't have a clue what Nintendo should do but I will say that when Miyamoto says:
“Our biggest downfall last year was that we failed to communicate the true value of Wii U, failed to make children persuade their parents to buy our products for them, and failed to offer products that parents could not resist. What we can do about it from now on is our theme.”
I don't think that parents are going to find TWO Nintendo systems an irresistible proposition.



OliverAdam said:

@LDXD Dude you have to buy an external HDD for your Wii U too, if you want to enjoy indies and the amount of great downloable offers as of lately. That argument is pretty invalid, or at least it applies to Wii U too.



jhohaness said:

when Nintendo stop caring about the kids and family friendly market that would be the happiest day of my life but if they keep trying to satisfy that demographic I'll be bitterly happy seeing them fail...



ultraraichu said:

Hmm, Wii U get more support with gamers from the east, XboxOne get more from the West, PS4 get it from both ends. I'm not surprised but it's like you say "a system runs a marathon" so I'll save my bets for later.



GraveLordXD said:

@OliverAdam um no it isn't. I only buy physical and 32gb is more than enough for indies
Ps4 games are sometimes around 40gigs and even if you buy physical you have to install the entire game to your hard drive so 500gb is laughable
With the Wii u if I wanted I'm sure I can get away with less than 32 gigs none of this matters anyway I bought an external for my Wii u just in case
I just wish they had a 2tb ps4 so I don't have to worry about it and not have to go through the hassle of figuring out what to do with the measly 500 GB HDD I rather buy a ps4 with no HDD for cheaper and just buy my own



Emblem said:

@jhohaness <.< you cant be serious, that's where most of their money comes from. I agree it would be nice for them to expand into "mature" territory abit more, but to suggest they cut off their biggest market is nonsense and goes against everything they stand for.



eaglebob345 said:

Why is this even on Nintendo Life? It doesn't really concern any console supporter unless they are fanboys. I have a Wii U and will get a PS4, only if KH3 is not on the Wii U. There is nothing wrong with either system. We all know Sony fanboys, not fans, have been wanting to gloat about power ever since the weak, but successful PS2. Console wars are nothung but fanboy arguments and articles like these are what fuel them. Why not just say "PS4 surpassed 6 million, YAY!!" On Push Square eot "PS4 passes Wii U" on Nintendo Life? If articles like these have to be made, you guys should have a fourth site for petty fanboy articles and arguments.

Had to edit: wrong site. XD



yuwarite said:

The way I see it, Nintendo exclusives > Sony exclusives and PC/Steambox > PS4 for multiplatform. PS4 is quite redundant to me at the moment as Japanese games I like, like Dark Souls, are now coming to the PC.



DreamOn said:

@Daisaku36 a generation ago? Thats a long time in the tech sector, friend. A generation ago there wasn't iphone and iPad, and Sony Vaio was a good laptop business for Sony. And then even a little bit less than a generation ago iPhone was the dominating touch-smart phone brand and Blackberry still enjoyed great sales and Android/Galaxy S was yet to be conceived and even touch Apples market. Now fast forward all that to today.



Darknyht said:

And while Xbox One and Playstation 4 go have a knockout brawl over which is the superior console, I will be still over here playing Smash Brothers Brawl on the Wii U and be perfectly happy.

Console wars and what games are on a console only matter if you spend all your time worrying about what you don't have. There is plenty of games on the Wii U that offer unique and fun experiences. The sooner Wii U owners and Nintendo supporters stop worrying about what they don't have, the happier they will be.



GraveLordXD said:

@yuwarite don't know but I can't imagine playing dark souls on PC I'm uncomfortable playing turn based strategy games on my PC I think dark souls would drive me crazy lol



Sidewinder said:

@Guitardude7 That's what the PS4 is SUPPOSED to be. It's suppose to be similar to a PS3 but upgraded. Why? Bigger, and better games. The Wii U doesn't have much in the way of innovation either, I mean everything possible with the Wii U gamepad has pretty much been done with mobile games. Don't get me wrong, I love the gamepad but the Wii U innovative? Please.



yuwarite said:

@LDXD I understand, but the PC is moving closer to the living room all the time, and when the day comes when Steam/PC boxes are a ubiquitous thing in the market, PlayStation's and XBoxes will seem all the more redundant.

That hasn't happened yet, so PS4 seems like the cool thing to get right now... but when the day comes when you can just buy a $500 PC to plop under your TV, it's going to rival PS4 big time. Think about it, all the freedom of a PC, under your TV; the potential is massive.



Sidewinder said:

@ultraraichu The Wii U sells better in the west than it does in Japan. Nearly triple as much each week, I don't understand where your #'s come from.



bizcuthammer said:

@withoutdk true, but PS4 has quality software from both 1st and 3rd parties that WiiU will never get. Unfortunately. Stuff like Destiny, Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 3, Star Wars games, Uncharted, Infamous, Sly Cooper, Elder Scrolls, etc will not be on WiiU. Its unfortunate that WiiU is mostly a Ninty+Indie box, but thats where we are.

For people like me, who can only afford one console most generations now, it really blows that WiiU has no third party support outside of Sonic games and the occasional, missing-major-features port. I can't afford to spend money on two consoles and a handheld and buy games for all of them. So because Nintendo makes consoles the way they do, i have to make the annoying choice of Nintendo or everything else. Do i love Nintendo games more? Yes. Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, etc are my favorite franchises, and i'd rather play them than anything else. It just sucks that i even have to make that choice. It'd be really nice if one day, Nintendo made a console that 3rd parties wanted to develop for again. That way i wouldnt feel like i'm missing out on so many games.



Gate_Shikimuri said:

Why do people keep saying Sony has first party? They don't make their own games. The correct term is second party.



HandheldGuru97 said:

I must admit that is very impressive!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe how much this console has sold in such a short amount of time especially with a ridiculously constricted supply and (no offense this is normal and should be for at least the 1st year) not so decent game library with very very few exclusives (not to mention no backwards compatibility yet). I might have to pick one up once the supply gets better and the hype dies off



ultraraichu said:

@JohnRedcorn you can imagine what the PureXbox headline would be. Maybe "Latest ps4 sales figures past Xbox One almost 2:1". Granted the only one I can find is how they lead December sales in the US.



anders190 said:

What I don't get is what games sell the consoles? It has nothing as far as I have seen. The two games that interest me, Battlefield 4 and Assassins Creed 4, is playable on PC as well.

I'm still kinda hoping of an increase of Wii U sales when consumers realise that PS4 (and Xbox One) lacks games.



WaveBoy said:

A Superior console with an archiac controller. Nintendo's got the unique Next gen gamepad, nintendo games, the VC(ect ect)

Power at this point, means zilch to me. Give me new types of gaming experiences, not the same old ride with fancier wallpaper.



Buduski said:

IMO there are no games currently worth getting on PS4 or Xbox One to justify a purchase, I am a Nintendo enthusiast at heart even if I do eventually buy the other consoles, but by the way things are looking for this year I think I may just stick with the Wii U & 3DS combo just because of all the games set to release in 2014. The only game that interests me from one of Nintendo's competition is Titan Fall and I don't plan on buying a Xbox One for one game.



2Sang said:

Kek you wish you were as cool as Johnredcorn. He's boss. Also, he's just pointing out how big fanboys some are here. Fanboys are the problem for video games in general, but this gen nintendo has the worst fanboys.



DualWielding said:

The ps4 passed the wii u deapite having no real games i doubt the wii u would be able to make a comeback once games start really coming to the ps4



AlternateButtons said:

@Sidewinder If that's what the PS4 is supposed to be then shame on Sony. If they continue this trend of just beefing up the graphics for every succeeding console then they're throwing away what makes gaming special: hardware innovation. It's the only thing that distances consoles from PCs and Nintendo is the only one who's at least trying to do this. The Wii U isn't as innovative as the Wii was, sure but to discredit any innovation it brings such as off tv play, and asymmetric gameplay is just plain foolish.



Senario said:

Boring, you can fool anybody with a clever enough marketing campaign. Experience greatness is one of these where it really doesn't say what is great and it doesn't even show games. They only show live action stuff. That and fans have been yelling superior power but really I just don't care because I have a PC and I won't have to pay a couple hundred more over the course of the consoles life just to play online.



ultraraichu said:

@Senario I wonder that since the first PS4 commercial. No one had a problem with that and marketing the system yet Wii U get more criticism for their ads even if they're the only one that shows real gameplay.



taffy said:

" Nintendo's hope will be that by this time next year its home console will be on an upward trend and securing solid sales; there are big-hitters on the way to try and deliver that end result." - two big hitters, FOR THE WHOLE YEAR!?
Don't tell me that Bayonetta is going to sell like gangbuster when the original didn't exactly shift numbers on 2 seperate platforms with a combined install base of 100 million +, and don't kid yourself that X will do the same either. It'll sell decent but it'll struggle to hit 1.5 million.



marck13 said:

The Wii U is the console on the market that actually offers something more. I am asking myself more if the PS4 and XONE aren't just upgraded versions of their previous consoles and therefore much closer to last-gen than the Wii U could possibly be with it's innovations like the Gamepad and Miiverse f. ex.



marck13 said:

Are you maybe missing MK8 and Smash Bros. U, so as Zelda U (speaking long term as you might be) ?



GunstarHero234 said:

@taffy Especially with half of the Bayonetta community already up at arms against Platinum Games that they aren't going to buy the game nor a Wii U if the game not going be developed on the other platforms which isn't going to happen sadly.



gojiguy said:

@2Sang I like the PS4 but I have yet to see or play a "must-have" game for the console.

I also really like a lot of the Wii U features (off-tv play, 35mm headphone jack, touchscreen, etc).



SphericalCrusher said:

The PS4 is superior in graphics, not in overall quality IMO. It all comes down to personal opinions and preferences... but at this moment, the PS4 is lacking games (It will get them soon though). There's definitely room for both in this market.



IronMan28 said:

@2Sang dude, there are better, more hilarious characters on King of the Hill. For instance, Bobby and Dale. And I'm not jealous of my least favorite King of the Hill character. On a slightly more serious note, fanboys are the worst. But I completely disagree with your assertion Nintendo fanboys are the worst this generation. Playstation fanboys have been terrible since the inception of the brand, and still take the awfulness cake. They troll both Nintendo and Xbox sites, while both of the others only troll Sony. Having on the blinders is a bad thing, but everyone is overplaying the lack of content coming to Wii U in the coming months. The Indie scene on Wii U is poised to be great, but few sites will ever mention this. I realize Indies might not move a lot of units, but content is coming, which is rarely ever mentioned anywhere.



Hy8ogen said:

@Guitardude7 This is where you're wrong. The PS4 is not a souped up version of the PS3. It's more of a watered down version of a gaming PC....



Kirk said:

Well I saw this one coming.

I actually thought the Xbox One might have surpassed Wii U by this point too but that's only a matter of time...

Sad state of affairs but unfortunately totally expected and imo justified.



MikeLove said:


"Power at this point, means zilch to me. Give me new types of gaming experiences, not the same old ride with fancier wallpaper."

So says the guy who is constantly comparing new games to retro titles, or saying how he prefers retro titles, or wants companies to dig up and rehash retro titles, etc...

You don't want new gaming experiences, you just want an endless stream of nostalgic remakes.



Rafie said:

Wow the lot of you are so butthurt. It was expected of the PS4 to surpass the Wii U along with the X1. MS hasn't released any numbers as of lately, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are creeping on the Wii U's numbers. The sales have been okay at best for MS and have gotten a tiny bit better for the Wii U.

I really wish the Wii U would sell more, but there's something wrong here. The public just ain't biting for it.

Now for those saying the PS4 is the "superior" console....that's subjective and is open to interpretation of the public. No matter how great the PS4 does or even if this is another 6th generation race. The PS2 sold the sold and was the most successful, but the Gamecube was my FAVORITE 6th gen console. See? I have all 3 from the 6th gen on up. However, to those saying it's a "souped up" PS3, that's foolhardy to say at best. Would you say the Wii U is a souped up Wii? Yeah didn't think so.



QuickSilver88 said:

Its amazing what $ony has done in a few months, but what seems lost in all this is what are xb1 sales, and also that Nintendo had a very strong december worlwide and by most accounts moved close to 1mil units. Some sources said WiiU outsold xb1 worldwide in december. Anyway you slice it, it was WiiU best month since launch and no one talks about it, only talks about how they revised their sales estimates are down. XB1 is obviously struggling because they are already offering a titanfall bundle....which its rare to give yout biggest game away for free. Point is maintaining momentum seems to be the trick and once ps4 launch craze passes in Japan lets see the numbers. Nintendo's 1st half is once again lookind dim, but lets hope E3 brings us more than the games we already know of.....for me its back to DKCTF and then DeusEX.....I really want X, but anything on SmtXFE would be nice.



AVahne said:

I bought my Wii U at launch out of excitement as a fan (former now) and because I had believed that Ninty had finally become less of a disappointment.
Now I have a decent set of good Wii and U games, but I still feel that this system was a huge waste of money, especially at launch.
The only reason I kept the darned thing is for Xenoblade, the promise of X, Mario Kart 8, and MAYBE Smash Bros. (this new SSB is disappointing me BIG time so far though). The fact that I have younger siblings also affected my purchase of the console.
I'm still waiting for Ninty to prove that the console was worth $350, which it had completely failed to do in that massive one year lead it had.



AlternateButtons said:

@Rafie Are you picking a fight with me by quoting me? The PS4 IS just a souped up PS3 because the only area that's different is the graphics. The Wii U is NOT a souped up Wii because it offers something completely new and different, the Game pad. It tries to be innovative whereas the PS4 just tries to look prettier.



Trickbaby14 said:

Quick! Will somebody tell me what soda company sold the most product this quarter! What about lightbulbs?! Who sold the most lightbulbs! I need to know these things! Because I have nothing else important in my life. I remember when a backstreet boys album was the best selling at the time. It was cause it was an amazing record? Right? That has to be it. Only the best sells the most. That's why I'm so concerned.



Agent721 said:

If they launch a FIFA World Cup game for the PS4 & it's good, in picking one up. I love the Wii U, but the sports offerings suck on it.



Rafie said:

@Guitardude7 No I didn't qoute you at all. You're not the only one saying ignorant things like "souped up" this and that. I guess the Wii U is just a souped up Wii then because the only 2 things that changed were the graphics and gamepad, right? Oh and you would know if I were picking a fight with ya. Trust me. Anyway, saying those things about the Wii U wasn't true now was it? Same difference.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Rafie They salty and cannot take the truth of reality if it slap them in their faces look how the Wii did years back. The Nintendo community was acting like the was their "Second Coming" now with Sony brings a system and are successful this time around this community bias as usual jealously flames a tale LOL so I really cannot take them seriously at all.

(Calling the PS4 a "souped up PS3" is a joke a bad one at that)



unrandomsam said:

@Guitardude7 The PS3 was cutting edge that is why stuff like the US Airforce bought loads of them. It was wasted though and never used properly. The PS4 has the same amount of effort put in as any of the big name PC makers that use their own design's and motherboards that is all. (And is similarly underpowered).

They have nothing at all in common. Other than they are both called Playstation.



AlternateButtons said:

@Rafie You're underplaying the Gamepad a bit there. Maybe you don't own a Wii U but the Gamepad makes a huge difference and is far different from the Wii. The PS4 offers nothing new other than a fresh coat of paint and has no noteworthy titles for the system. Heck, it still uses the dualshock, a controller that's been used since the first Playstation only with slight modifications. It doesn't deserve to success it has and is only successful because of Sonys superior marketing campaign.



Peek-a-boo said:


The Xbox One had a far, far harder hitting media and advertising campaign, and yet it is trailing the PlayStation 4 by a few million already.

The PlayStation 4 has given the general gaming audience what they want; a powerful console at a reasonable price. If anything the PS4 makes the Wii U looks too expensive.

... the GamePad is great, but the screen fails at doing what my iPad does that makes so many touch-based games so good, which is multi-touch, not the restrictive screen Nintendo bizarrely decided to use.

Anyway, as a Nintendo fan, I think Sony have done well thus far, considering there is no real 'big' game available for the PS4 yet.



Senario said:

@Trickbaby14 Lol but I do want to know who sold the most mattresses and the most soda! These things are important because I need to have the satisfaction of knowing there are people out there who choose the exact same brands I do! So important. sarcasm

It does seem kinda silly doesn't it?



Rafie said:

@Guitardude7 Like I said, I have ALL systems and I'm not underplaying anything. I'm merely showing you how foolish that claim is of yours that the PS4 is a souped up PS3. Now I can go tit for tat on features, but then we'll be here all day. I understand if YOU don't have a PS4 and don't like that they are ahead. That's fine. The consile race is just beginning and there are no winners yet. However, the Wii U is in jeopardy. If all of these features are so much better than the PS4's, then why has the PS4 surpassed the Wii U's lifetime sales? Don't know if you caught the sarcasm in thatblast sentence, but my point in that was to say it doesn't mattet who YOU think has better offerings. Sales don't justify anything. We all know that.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Guitardude7 Can you explain to me bluntly without this biased fanboyism why does Nintendo deserves to be #1? Because I thought it was people preference to buy whatever they desired without this controller gimmick opinion you have.

Also it's Nintendo terrible marketing why they in the position their in ever thought of that probably not there's more to this but I don't want to use my hand just yet.



AlternateButtons said:

@Rafie I already told you why the PS4 is selling better, and its because of its superior marketing. And I think you're over exaggerating saying the Wii U is in jeopardy. It's not on a deathbed or anything.

But Let us stop arguing though and just agree to disagree. We're not going to convince each other that our standpoint is right so let's just drop it eh?



Rafie said:

@GunstarHero234 Lol Man it's just funny hearing stuff like this sometimes. I understand Ninty fans frustrations as they are tired of being kicked while they are diwn. However, no one is safe here and the Wii U is still a great system. The PS4 is just more popular.



HawkeyeWii said:

It is about time. I can't believe it didn't over take it a while ago. It really shows how much the Wii U has sold, considering it had a one year start....
Such pathetic sales Nintendo.



HawkeyeWii said:

Maybe if Nintendo advertised it's console and games like PS4 does.
I ahve yet to see a commercial for the new Donkey Kong Country game. This is possible system seller, and yet they don't advertise it....



AlternateButtons said:

@GunstarHero234 Simple. Because they're the only ones who are attempting to innovate and experiment by making a completely different and unique console. They constantly try to give new experiences through their hardware and make great games to boot. The PS4 nor the Xbox One have done neither of those things.

I agree with you on the notion that Nintendo's marketing has put them in their current position. They haven't done a good job at all marketing the system or its games.

Again though, I do not wish to argue any further. Just agree to disagree.



MAN1AC said:

B b but the industry is crashing and the the PS4 and Xbone will struggle like the Wii U has. So much crow being eaten.
This was expected but I dont see it as a big deal as long as you find good games/experiences on the consoles you choose to invest in.



Rafie said:

@Guitardude7 You're grasping if you don't think the Wii U is in jeopardy. Even Miyamoto has admitted the dire situation. If you can't get past your denial, then we have nothong more to discuss.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Guitardude7 Ok then I disagree because every game company out of the sun isn't going to have the same "innovation" Nintendo has and guess what my friend that's their weakness right now because of not trying at all to push the Wii U to be a better platform for everybody. They rather try to catch the casuals in their little nets with their little inventions than going after the bigger fishes Sony/Microsoft been taking for years so sadly your comment just your opinion.



AlternateButtons said:

@Rafie I'm not saying the Wii U isn't in a bad situation, I'm saying it's not dead. You're acting as if the Wii U is going to die tomorrow. Like it's on its last legs and on life support. You're making it a bigger thing than it is and over exaggerating the situation here. It's not selling well but it's far from over. Games are still being developed for it and people are still buying it. The Wii U is fine and will only improve from here.



AlternateButtons said:

@GunstarHero234 This might be news to you but your disagreement is also opinion. You're not the end all be all. You just have a different taste and that's fine. No need to be insulting and obnoxious about it. Also chiming in and ganging up against me isn't going to change my stance. I am a gamer who enjoys Nintendo games because they're fun and the hardware is innovative and different than the competition whose offerings hold nothing of interest to me because they just focus on graphics and nothing else. End of story.



Xaessya said:

I know your pain, but I bought my Wii before launch when it was sold out so I paid extra .[em].

If it had cross game chat then it would be worth it for me ^_^
(Something as simple as that makes me happy )

Yes the Gamepad makes a huge difference. I can't use the eShop without it, I can't change my settings without it, it turns on when I turn the system on even when I don't want it too, I can't turn it off when I don't want to use it so I keep it at low battery so it will die right when I unplug it.

It adds alot of stress for these inconveniences



Rafie said:

@Guitardude7 I'm not acting like anything. I never said the Wii U was dead and I didn't even say that it was on it's on it's last legs. You're taking what you perceive my post is saying. I said the Wii U is in jeopardy. It is and that's a fact. I didn't say it wouldn't come back from it's struggling position. In fact, I praised the Wii U as a great system. You conveniently overlooked that though. I'm currentlt playing DKC:TF more than anything right now. I do play my Wii U. When MK8 drops, my other systems will be on hiatus like when tv shows take a break. Still the Wii U needs help. 3rd part dev help specifically and more software.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Guitardude7 Insulting and obnoxious LOL where in my comment insulting any of that? I was giving you the facts which is true about Nintendo. Also you think I give a damn about you are a gamer of Nintendo I grew up playing Nintendo but played Sega and PS and the rest of the systems come follow I don't have to have a "flag of a brand" waving that i'm superior than yours. So I don't care about what you think about the other platforms or the gamers that enjoy them but the fact of it is you need to look at reality and face what you see in front of you.



Anguspuss said:

serious Nintendo clearly arent after same market as PS4 wii u 3ds are being sold as family friendly gaming.

Aint much I can play on the ps4 with out my wife complaining



Rafie said:

@Anguspuss Did she marry you knowing you played games on other systems that isn't fsmily friendly? My wife did and she knew better not to complain. Now that I have children I do watch what I play in front of them. So no shooters and GTA type games. At least hardcore like they are.



AlternateButtons said:

@Tsuzura Oh thank God FINALLY someone who agrees with me. Thank you so much TvT

@Rafie I believe the old quote is: "What we have here is a failure to communicate." My apologies for the misunderstanding. Carry on. Now may we please stop arguing?

@GunstarHero234 You sound so....angry with your posts. Are you ok? Do you need to talk about something? Because you're taking this a little too far. Look man, if you like Sega and Sony that's fine. If you dont think the Wii U is a good system then fine. But don't turn this into an insult hurling fight. We're gamers, we're better than this. As for Nintendos situation the Wii U will be fine and I'll just go on my merry way supporting the console and buying its games.Enjoy the PS4, I'm sure many great games will come out for it. Now let's just end this argument before it gets worse. Have a nice day.



GunstarHero234 said:

@Guitardude7 Nope i'm not a Nintendrone thank goodness but regardless of it i'm great and I want to end this because I hate debating with people that need a reality check in life so to say. So I hope you have a good day and please don't comment me ever again thanks.



AlternateButtons said:

@Rafie Oh I did! I didn't stop playing the whole weekend. Its one of the best 2D Platformers I've ever played. Retro Studios really outdid themselves with this latest installment. I'm currently at the final boss and trying my hardest to beat him. It's just a ton of fun!



Rafie said:

@Guitardude7 I got a long way to go before I get to the final boss. I have slight OCD when it comes to completing thongs 100%. So I'm getting all the ouzzle pieces and missing Kong letters and such. Yeah Retro is a fabulous studio. Nintendo should keep them exclusive to them.



element187 said:

@ToniK Why would you be 'forced' to buy a PS4 ever? The vast majority of 3rd party titles are coming to xBone(laff barely stronger than Wii U), Steambox and PC. There should be no reason why you would be forced to purchase one.



Anguspuss said:

@Rafie Yes my wife new I played she also thought games where silly but now due to Nintendo she is complaining loudly on her lap top trying to save a some prince. But I have a little one now so family friendly gaming is good. My only bonus is I only sleep 5 hours a day so still manage to keep up with games & bad horror movies.



taffy said:

@mch The two big hitters I was referring to are MK8 and Smash (which is going to sell more on the 3DS). I'm pointing out that X and Bayonetta will not increase the install base enough to combat the onslaught the Wii U is getting from the PS4.

And let's not forget that the Wii U had 1 YEAR HEAD START over the other consoles yet they are not suffering from the consistent software droughts that have become standard for Nintendo since releasing Skyward Sword on the Wii!



AJWolfTill said:

In Japan at least I know that Mario Kart 8 is going to really set the ball in motion for the Wii U. With such slim pickings outside of the eshop this year, Nintendo better have some heavyweight titles ready for announcement to ensure fresh content hits the system regularly.



boynerdrambling said:

quite a feat given the console hardly has any games. microsoft handed this to sony on a platter after the DRM disaster. its not like the bone will be surpassing the U anytime soon though.

but anyway, who really cares, im gonna continue enjoying my hobby no matter whos wining the "console war" and you should to. Ignore the click bait some sites post at whatever chance they get and let nintendo/sony/microsoft worry about sales.



K-Gamer said:

@Guitardude7 I am not a ninty whiner, but I totally agree with you. Brother has one and I was so unimpressed by it. One of the worst console upgrades I have seen, can not say to much to the Xbone either. Wii to Wii U just like any othe Nintendo graphic upgrades, but then again, the Wii graphics were unimpressive in some cases, especially when comparing a Wii COD to a PS3 COD.



Gashole said:

Nothing Nintendo can do will save the Wii U. Not Mario Kart 8, not Smash Bros., and not any other game in their library. All of this without even mentioning their 3rd party support.
And they deserve this, because they've been turning a blind eye, and a deaf ear, to all of their fans.
What goes around comes around, Nintendo!



Mahe said:

With the Wii U, Nintendo lost the plot so completely it's ridiculous. The Gamepad is the worst offender of all.



MadAdam81 said:

All that matters to me is that the Wii U is the most fun console I can remember. For me, the gamepad really adds a lot as well, especially for off tv play, second.screen stuff or dual screen local multiplayer.
However, I would have been happy to pay an extra $100 for the Wii U to have more power, just so there could be more 3rd party titles. The Wii U is too innovative with the way they put the guts together, making it too much work for 3rd parties, but if it had more power that wouldn't have been much of a problem.



Senario said:

@MadAdam81 Just to throw this out there, more power wouldn't have meant that third parties automatically support the Wii U. The titles would have to sell well first and they simply do not.



WaveBoy said:


You couldn't be more wrong. Last i checked Zack & Wiki, Elebits, Wario Ware Smooth Moves, Metroid Prime 3,Game & Wario, ZombiU, Nintendo Land, Wario Land Shake it!, Super Mario galaxy, Zelda Skyward Sword, Wii Sports Resort, RE4: Wii Edition, LOZ: Wind Waker HD, Kororingpa(I could go on and on)offered NEW types of gaming experiences.

Modern retro is very tricky, because developers have to compete with high grade references, and most of the time these hipster indie devs fall flat. Yacht Club's Shovel Knight looks to be an exception for ex.

I want new types of experiences, but i would also love some 2D and even 3D(+ motion/game pad equiped)sequels to some older franchises(Mega man, ghosts 'n goblins, power stone, viewtiful joe, contra ect weather they're reinventing the wheel or not. These franchises haven't gotten sequels in YEARS. I love retro, but i also love modern+motion controls.

I usually don't care for most nostalgiac remakes, i'm probably one of the few on here who didn't go ape sh** over Duck Tales remastered, the castle of illusion remake(30 frames per second garbage) LOZ: Wind Waker HD, StarFox 64 HD(ect ect) It's cool and all, but eh. The last remake i truly GamerGazmed over was the Resident evil remake on the game cube,



PikminWorld said:

The PS4 had a lot of hype around it considering the Xbox One's reveal flopped and a lot of Xbox fans decided to go for the PlayStation this generation. The only thing I wish is for the insulting to all sides to stop. I mean when they make mistakes go ahead but, I'm tired of going on websites and reading SOME Sony fans rubbing it in the other fans' faces or vice versa. I mean I'm sure that happened to them a lot from Microsoft fans last generation at least during the beginning and they want revenge but it's unnecessary. Anyways, I think the Wii U can make a comeback with some great exclusives this year (like Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros.) regardless of the PS4's superior hardware which to be honest I saw a video of Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zero and they showed a comparison with PS3, Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PS4 graphics and I couldn't tell the difference at all. Oh, well I respect all of them, as Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft's consoles made my childhood great.



segasonicsteve said:

nintendo is in a spot of cant be fixed overnight but it can be fixed, they need to farm out their dormant ip's to developers who can help increase the quality game library, throw money at them for exclusives and possibly acquire a couple of game studios that can help them make games that appeal to everyone in areas that are lacking (sports, fps, racing other than mariokart) they just need to keep making games that make people that own a wii u rush out and buy it and people who dont already have the console put it on the list of next purchases and be the reason for buying the console (i believe that mariokart and smash will go along way towards doing this) but we dont really know what nintendo have in store in the future after the 4 or so big relases... i just hope they keep making the quality games and they dont panic and anounce a successor to the wii u for the next couple of years at least or the wii u could very well damage the next console like the saturn did to the dreamcast.



ToniK said:

@element187 Well, not literally forced but I need to play certain games and I wouldn't consider Xbone, can't afford a PC so PS4 it is. Games like Alien: Isolation and The Evil Within excite me too much to pass So I'm "forced".



erv said:

Playstations have always been great consoles and I hope it succeeds. I am more than happy with nintendo quality though, so I'll probably just own a wii U and enjoy the great games on it.



defrb said:

I hope ps4 will be very succesfull, it got it all, especially the horsepower.
PS4 is next gen, wiiu is allready outdated, hopefully they make a new one soon, a better one.
Less then 5% of all devolpers is not planning to bring 1 game to the wiiu, wiiu is doomed.
I love Nintendo and their games, im still happy with my wiiu but its a weak machine if you look at the competition.



datamonkey said:

I'm really happy with my PS4 and can't wait for the next round of first party games to start dropping. Sony have done an excellent job with the unveiling, the build up to launch and the launch itself, so congrats to them.

Maybe this could be a lesson to Nintendo that you don't always have to "be different" and/or add gimmicky controls to succeed.

I really hope that Wii U sales pick up but I feel Nintendo have dug themselves into a hole as far as 3rd party support is concerned. Of course I will buy most 1st party Nintendo games but everything else I will get on PS4.



Superryanworld said:

Whats with all the hate in here?I enjoy games from Nintendo,Sony,Microsoft and I'll own a ps4&x-1 down the line.I go to Nintendo for
Mario,metroid,Zelda.Ive got Sony for infamous,uncharted,the last of us,god of war.Microsoft gives me halo,gears of war.I understand that not everyone has the money to own multiple systems,but what's available will be around for many years.Why do people feel the need to defend a company like its a best friend?Jack Tretton,Stephen Elop,and Satoru Iwata are not old drinking pals,and could care less about a persons brand loyalty or stance on the competitors sales approach.Im a big Nintendo fan, but if I never invested in a Sony&microsoft system I would have missed out on several great games.Im a gamer and it makes no difference if I'm playing skyrim on 360 or dk tropical freeze on wii u.



electrolite77 said:

Are people really still deluding themselves that the PS4 is only selling because of marketing? This might be hard to take for Nintendo fans but the reason people buy Sony machines is because based on experience, they trust that Sony will produce a solid, attractive piece of hardware that will get all the big third-party games and some good exclusives basically finishing up with something for everyone and it will be supported for many years. Look at the PS3-Dark Souls, COD, FIFA, Uncharted, Last of Us, Ratchet and Clank, Lego games, Rayman, Singstar, Journey, Ni No Kuni, Stick It to The Man, Guacameelee etc. etc.

We can go on about how good DKC is or how 'innovative' the game pad gimmick is (they're other debates BTW) but the PS4 will get a much wider selection of games. It isn't rocket science. Seriously.



electrolite77 said:


Exactly. I've got a PS3, Vita, 3DS, Wii, Wii U. If I hadn't had both Sony and Nintendo machines over the years and had limited myself to one company I'd have missed out on tons of great games.



elstif said:

This is the result of marketing and people wanting to get the newest toy, because that´s what game consoles are, toys

I´ll be honest, Nintendo have always been my favorite video game company because they make the best games. I buy their consoles because that´s the only way I can play their games. For other games I play on my PC/Steam.
Even now I don´t think I missed many games that I would like to play not getting a PS3 or Xbox last gen. I might get a cheap PS3 one day to play the Uncharted series and a few others.
I don´t even have a very powerful or expensive PC but man I really laugh at some of my friends when I saw how Skyrim was running on their PS3, of course I´m the one who has to suffer that "you play those Nintendo games for little kids" all the time but I know better...

They spend 500€ on a PS4 to play and another 500€ on a PC (for PC use). What I do is spend 1000€ on a PC to use it for everything. Of course I get my Ninty too.



BertoFlyingFox said:

for good reason, the ps4 is a great system. So is the WiiU, it just isn't selling as well.

I'm hoping once we hit the new fiscal year, Nintendo starts working hard on bringing games, demos, and some more customization options to the WiiU's interface.

I have a feeling it'll just be same old Nintendo, but with Nintendo-branded boardgames and a Nintendo-branded PowerWheel. All we could do is see what this whole Quality of Life platform is while everyone rags on Nintendo for this reason or that.

whatever, the world turns and I keep playing Tropical Freeze.



JosieC84 said:

It's a shame but I'm not surprised at all. It was going to be inevitable. Sony has been defeating Nintendo for years in hardware sales (except for the Wii) so this isn't new news. As long as Nintendo keeps bringing out awesome quality games, the Wii U is a fantastic console - although it's depressing to see the sales



baconcow said:

I plan on getting a PS4 once there is a must-buy game on it, which there isn't currently, IMO. Since I have a quite powerful PC, games that cross-platform with the PC do not make sense for me on the PS4. I don't understand how the Wii U, with arguably a much better software base (at the current time), is so poorly selling. With Pikmin 3, DKTF, SM3DW, and NSMB Wii U, there is already a solid set of Nintendo games on the Wii U. Not a lot, but more than the exclusives the PS4 has to offer. Still waiting for the PS4 to show that must-buy game (that isn't available on PC). Thinking this might end up being Metal Gear Solid: Phantom Pain or some obscure RPG. Also looking forward to Minecraft on the PS4, for couch co-op purposes. It is one of those games that could really use the PS4 hardware to really shine. My PC can handle it, but couch co-op just isn't viable without a mods, and even then, it fails.



Nimious said:

@JohnRedcorn What part of that was sarcasm? Why were you being sarcastic to begin with?

Huh. What's the point of your post then? It certainly wasn't funny.



Subie98 said:

As a wii u owner an ps4 owner im sad and happy for this news at the same time.



Action51 said:

I am dumber for having read this comments section.

Seriously...where are these "butthurt" and "salty" people that the Nintendo bashers are always strutting around and acting superior too because they like Sony products a lot? Liking a brand that sells less means you have different's normal, move on.

Hmm, Sony sold a lot of Playstations? That's cool.

Nvidea sold a lot of cards, and Microsoft sold a lot of operating as a PC gamer I'm all superior to you Sony fans? How does this work exactly?

Console wars are so stupid. I'm a PC gamer, I love Nintendo and their games. If someone gave me a PS4, I'd use it and probably get an exclusive or two because every system has at least a few good exclusives.

This brand loyalty stuff is just stupid, and that goes double for the bashers and haters who get some phony sense of superiority when their brand sells more then another brand.

  • hint: competition is good, I want all the consoles to do well.


TheKeybladeLord said:

@Guitardude7 You could say the same thing about the Wii U. It's just a souped up Wii with a tacked on controller. Listen, I love both Nintendo and Sony, but you either have to be blinded by your fanboyism or be a complete nut to not notice that the Wii U is in dire trouble.

Sony has a lot more variety when it comes to their library and the same will apply to PS4 in the near future. Sony has shown this with the likes of LittleBigPlanet, Puppeteer, Journey, rain, Fat Princess, Heavy Rain, Twisted Metal, Uncharted, The Last Of Us, Killzone, and Ni No Kuni. That's just the tip of the iceberg and yet I've touched on genres ranging from RPGs, Indies, FPS, to Platformers.

Nintendo on the other hand does not offer variety to gamers and really only feeds off people's nostalgia, so this is why Nintendo needs to step their game up and experiment in genres they haven't before or at least step away from their comfort zone.

As much as I love Nintendo... Their stategy makes no sense whatsoever in this day and age of gaming from a business standpoint. I'll always be supporting Nintendo no matter what (can't wait for Smash Bros U and Mario Kart 8), but if you can't stop and think and face the harsh facts of reality that they are in trouble... then you are a lost cause.

Before playing the Sony fanboy card, add my NN name: TheKeybladeLord.



TheKeybladeLord said:

@DimetriWarrior What do you mean? Sony owns studios just as Nintendo owns studios to make games. Your argument makes no sense at all.

Even if the term you just spouted out of god knows where even applied to Sony, who cares about the logistics? Games are games.

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