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GameCube to See New Downloadable Life on Wii U

Posted by Zach Kaplan

WiiWare just got more interesting

Many have wondered whether the Wii U will include a Virtual Console service updated with GameCube games, and now NOA executive Amber McCollom has revealed that the answer is yes – through WiiWare. In an interview with NintendoGal, she is quoted as saying:

GameCube discs will not be compatible with Wii U, but a number of the games that were playable on GameCube can be downloaded from WiiWare.

Whether or not McCollum misspoke and intended instead to say Virtual Console – "Ware" isn't even referred to in the 3DS eShop – remains to be seen, but regardless, it's nice to know that Nintendo will continue new gamers to play these titles of yesteryear.

What GameCube games do you hope to see on Wii U?

[via eurogamer.net, nintendogal.com]

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User Comments (124)

Lan

#2

Lan said:

WiiU supposedly has 8GB flash memory and GCN games are...1.4GB maybe? This doesn't look good.

Mizore

#7

Mizore said:

Wind Waker and Paper Mario 2 for me. I'm pretty sure Pikmin 3 will be epic enough for me to get rid of the second game, lol.

DarkLloyd

#8

DarkLloyd said:

i predict a gamecube controller thingy when it comes to playing downloadable gc games anywhos heres my list

Windwaker (dont own)
twin snakes metal gear (do own)
Tales of symphonia (do own)
Starfox adventures (do own)
starfox assualt (dont own)
Eternal Darkness (do own)

thats all i can think of at the moment but im sure theres more i would love to see since i dont have a very big collection of physical gamecube games

and to that @GuardianAcorn person the 8 gb flash memory is probably there for updates n stuff for the casuals who dont know things but this should be no problem for us if you plan on downloading lots of big games then we know we can use SD cards and external harddrives which are easly cheap for a terabyte one which i will get though i know i probably wont fill it up lol

Lan

#9

Lan said:

Oh! If Ninty puts in the extra effort and updates these, we could see Melee with online! :O

Link79

#10

Link79 said:

She doesn't even know the difference between Wiiware and Virtual console.
How credible can this information be?

komicturtle

#11

komicturtle said:

Save Windwaker for Zelda 30th with a collector's pack- especially for those who want to see it in full HD :3

Hardy83

#12

Hardy83 said:

If true we can expect only a handful of games on WiiWare over the course of a year and a half.

And judging from the pricing (GB=3-5, NES=5, SNES=8, 64=10) I will predict that cube games will be $15-20.

Xkhaoz

#13

Xkhaoz said:

@GuardianAcorn the GameCube optical discs could hold up to 1.8 GB of data, and most of them didn't use all of that. And Wii U supports USB hard drives.

Tasuki

#14

Tasuki said:

Just what we need another game line up to add to the Download services. There are already so many NES, SNES, N64 etc. games that they havent released that need to released. They dont need anymore game line ups.

And honestly the Gamecube isnt that old you can still find them pretty easy same with the games its not like an NES where you have to go to ebay for example to find one. Also the Wii can play GC games does Nintendo think that everyone is going to get rid of their Wiis just for a WiiU???

Link79

#17

Link79 said:

What I wanna know is can our current Wii VC collections be transferred to Wii U?
Also will they continue to offer classic titles from the shop as well?
It Shouldn't be just Gamecube.

PALgamer

#18

PALgamer said:

I can see the Saturn and Dreamcast joining the VC camp for Wii U.
@Link79: If the 3DS can do it with the DSi. They'll use a similar method with the Wii U.

quino711

#19

quino711 said:

even if its true... games i have and like will take aaa lot of time to reach wii ware

yoyo1212

#20

yoyo1212 said:

and if this is real just see how long it will take then to put the good game cube games on there

FonistofCruxis

#21

FonistofCruxis said:

There are still many GC games that I plan on getting and some of them seem unlikely to get a downloadable release on the wii U, especially with the poor nintendo64 support on the wii vc which is one of the reasons I'm keeping my wii.
@Tasuki I agree, I hope they don't abandon the other platforms on the vc when the wii U is released but with the way things are going on the wii vc, I wouldn't be surprised if they already have. :( Although, later arcade games would be good additions to the vc like the Mario kart and House of the dead arcade games.

outrun2sp

#23

outrun2sp said:

Nintendo really have done it now. They know all the fanboys will yet again buy stuff that they already own again!!!!

They know that all the people who bought the 3ds will buy the upgrade model.

Just like people bought DS then DSI.

Now gamecube games will be included in this.

Markystal

#24

Markystal said:

If they can get me Tales of Symphonia and let me use any form of wireless controller (never owned a wavebird) I would probably run out and preorder 2 WiiU.

Jr-Joe

#27

Jr-Joe said:

Awwww yeeaaahhhh, the only gamecube game i ever owned was smash bros melee, I want to finally play wind waker in HD! Mario sunshine too!

Ryno

#28

Ryno said:

NintendoGal is my favorite source for all things Nintendo!

Seriously, what the heck is NintendoGal?

DestinyMan

#30

DestinyMan said:

I would love to see Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, and Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker to come to the service if this turns out right. However, I think she was talking about Virtual Console instead of Wiiware.

Burning_Spear

#31

Burning_Spear said:

When she says, "a number of games that were playable on GameCube can be downloaded from WiiWare" she may be referring to Tetris and the like — Wii Ware versions of games "that were playable on GameCube." I can't believe a Ninteno exec would confuse WiiWare and the VC.

DrCruse

#32

DrCruse said:

This is bad for multiple reasons. First of which is that Gamecube compatibility could've been intentionally excluded from the WIIU in order to allow for downloadable Gamecube games (i.e. so Nintendo makes more money selling you games you already own). Another is the size of Gamecube games. Gamecube discs can hold up to 1.4 Gigabytes, and some games use multiple discs.

-TR

#34

-TR said:

I still have my GameCube discs on a shelf bellow my Wii discs. This is the first time I'll be able to wave an old copy of a game at my Wii U whilst it's downloading. (Disc boxes are far easier to keep out)

Files sizes shouldn't be an issue, they can easily be compressed.

The_Fox

#35

The_Fox said:

It makes sense. It's probably one of the reasons GC support is being dropped on the Wii U. Nintendo doesn't see any of the money from used game sales but they will from rereleasing them in a digital format.

Edit: Damn, Jesussaves beat me to it.

Burning_Spear

#37

Burning_Spear said:

They probably also decided not to include NES, SNES and N64 compatibility to make even MORE money selling us downloadable versions of games we already own from those systems. Get a grip ... They preserved backward compatibility to Wii. ... How much further were they supposed to go? There's no pleasing some people. And where's the damn Blu-Ray player and coffee maker?

sc100

#38

sc100 said:

I figured they would add GC games to virtual console eventually. That's too much easy money to pass up. That's why they have extended virtual console to the 3DS now as well. They wouldn't have done that if the virtual console service on the Wii hadn't have been profitable. Hopefully we'll eventually see Saturn and Dreamcast games too. I already have a 1TB external hard drive I can hook up to the Wii U so I'll be able to download a lot of games. My prediction for GC VC prices is somewhere between $10 and $15.

Alpha2797

#39

Alpha2797 said:

The number one Gamecube game I would like to download (if it's ever available for download in the Wii U virtual console because the US never got New Play Control Pikmin 2) is Pikmin 2. I never played it before and it sounds awesome.

HandheldGuru97

#43

HandheldGuru97 said:

My brother and I used to own a Cube but it broke so we sold all of our games. A few years latter we found out that the Wii was compatible with the Cube. :(. A few games that I really want to see are Kriby Air Ride, Super Mario Sunshine and all the stuff I missed that is really good like Mario Kart

Teh-Ray

#47

Teh-Ray said:

WiiWare - About 40MB limit.
GC Discs - About 1.8GB Limit.

Houston, we have a problem.

yoyogamer

#48

yoyogamer said:

So.. In theory... If I own both a 3DS and Wii U in the year 2015.. I will be able to play every awesome Nintendo Game on every Nintendo console ever made (except Earthbound) through VC and Disc/Game Card? I can't really complain about that.

Crunc

#49

Crunc said:

So you'll have to buy the games over again, and the thing doesn't have a big HDD to hold the games anyway, only flash memory? Well, I guess they could limit it to only small games. I'm sure there are some, but I imagine the selection will be paltry and unimpressive. I think I'll just keep the Wii non-U for gamecube games. Plus who knows if we're going to be able to transfer our WiiWare and VC games.

hydeks

#51

hydeks said:

@Teh-Ray yes the WiiWare limitation is 40MB, on the Wii :P Thing can change for the Wii U.

I would love to see wind waker, mario sunshine, and star fox adventures. I would say metroid prime but i would rather get metroid prime trilogy :P

OorWullie

#52

OorWullie said:

@Teh-Ray and the many other posters.
Do none of you guys read the website and the comments???The WiiU will have flash memory of around 8 gb and the ability to add SD or external hard drives so its OK Houston,problem resolved.

Luffymcduck

#53

Luffymcduck said:

Now they only need to remake Cube -controller (the best Nintendo controller to date) so we can play Smash Bros 4 properly.

wanderlustwarrior

#54

wanderlustwarrior said:

I wonder how/if it will be possible to transfer save files. I'm also pretty damn against buying the same game again, but nintendo seems to make a lot of money that way.

Also, Gamecube controller sucked.

Capt_N

#60

Capt_N said:

Ouch, this could put a damper on eBay games sales, although I am leery of selling my games anymore. To date, I have only sold PM:TTYD, & Lego Star Wars II. But no other games, as I have found, even if I don't particularly like, &/or play a game, I may very well want to later on, years down the road. So I'm keeping my Cube, & games. Esp. ones I can expect to have legal issues, & so not appear on a virtual service.

If this is true, then this is obviously why WiiU lacks GCN support. Further, this also allows Nintendo to make money selling a peripheral to do the work of a GCN controller.

Furthermore, I want to know what, & if a transfer system for VC/WW games, will exist, & how it will work. & I want to know if the WiiU will properly handle Wii online functions. Then, Nintendo, I will think on actually getting the WiiU.

V8_Ninja

#61

V8_Ninja said:

I guess that could work. I would love to be able to download some of the games I missed on the GC.

Robo-goose

#62

Robo-goose said:

Oh, man. Fire Emblem: PoR, Wind Waker, Paper Mario: TTYD...
Having copies of those that I can actually play again would be ace.
I'm glad that I got on the internet today.

Crunchy_in_milk

#63

Crunchy_in_milk said:

This won't be much use for me, I already own all the gamecube games I want except for Chibi Robo, but they won't put that on there anyway.

timp29

#64

timp29 said:

In Australia where downloads and uploads are subject to quotas/limits, a 1GB download will destroy me :p

Hokori

#65

Hokori said:

hmm I may buy my GCN games over, but Im really hating the thought, especially since I havent beat a ton of them, I feel like I wasted $$

StarDust4Ever

#66

StarDust4Ever said:

This is wonderful news! What better a service to Nintendo fanboys than to make Super Mario Sunshine available for download on day one! All core Super Mario platformers ever made, playable on a single console! :D

I have no qualms about supporting Nintendo by downloading Game Cube games I already own. Even better if I can play said Super Mario Sunshine game on the Wii-U tablet while my fiance watches Netflix movies on the TV!

C-195

#67

C-195 said:

If this is true, the Rogue Squadron sequels might finally be mine!

Omarzuqo

#68

Omarzuqo said:

A quick buck for Nintendo by removing the backwards compatibility that the console is perfectly capable of.

Incognito_D

#69

Incognito_D said:

@Mickeymac Why do you doubt it's true, when it's coming straight from the mouth of someone at Nintendo of America? :S
Anyway, I think she probably did mean VC, because why would old games be on Wii Ware? Would be cool to see Gamecube games up for grabs, although I still play my Cube games anyway, so doesn't mean much to me personally. Also, when the Gamecube back catalogue is available to download as 'retro', it means you're getting officially old :(

Retrogamer88

#70

Retrogamer88 said:

you are correct Omarzuqo, a new fad these days for game companies is to sell you half of a game at full price and then make you download the rest, but nintendo probably had backwards compatibility removed so they could sell you there old games again (which i am sher some ppl dont feel like buying the same gamecube games that they already own again?),and Wii U is supposed to be this awsome HD console but they cant have backwards compatibility for gamecube? really?

LordTendoboy

#72

LordTendoboy said:

@Link79

The entire VC library should be available (NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, TG16, Master System, etc.). Nintendo isn't going to drop their own systems like that. That would be too much money lost.

LordTendoboy

#73

LordTendoboy said:

@Retrogamer88

I don't have any GameCube games anymore. I would love to download a few of the classics I never completed, especially The Wind Waker. And when they put Metroid Prime 1 and 2 on the VC, they better include Wii Remote controls!

Henmii

#74

Henmii said:

If this is true, then there is no download size-limit on Wii u! No size-limit and Gamecube games! Good news!

It makes the most sense though to release them as Gamecube vc games, not as Wii u ware games!

SwerdMurd

#75

SwerdMurd said:

i'm sensing a pattern here....

Wii plays GC games! Now you can play all your old games!

DS plays GBA games! Now you can play all your old games.

/discontinue previous generation of backwards compatibility, charge too much for digital versions, advertise as a selling point on new consoles.

Not a huge fan tbh. But at least they didn't start w/ backwards compatibility and then remove it (hi PS3! :) ) or anyth--oh wait. DSi. nm.

darklinkinfinite

#79

darklinkinfinite said:

I gotta say it sucks a little that the Wii U won't support GCN discs and I'm sure a lot of people will rage about that but the way I see it, if you have a significant collection of Gamecube games as I do, you probably already have a device that plays them, be it a Gamecube or a Wii (I have both) so they're not making you rebuy anything. For those that don't, I just hope Nintendo prices the games competitively. Right now my guess is that GCN games will cost like $20, which is too much for me.

47drift

#80

47drift said:

I own a physical copy of every GameCube game I'd ever want. I'll just keep my Wii hooked up to play those.

Pj1

#81

Pj1 said:

I like the idea of being able to play my Wii VC library with the Wii-U, this will make my mind up on whether or not I'll buy a Wii-U. I knew Nintendo would do some thing with the Game-cube, in time more information will surface about Wii-U. Knowing how Nintendo work I'm not going to hold my breath.

speshalmon

#83

speshalmon said:

This is happy.
And not going to be supported after Super Mario Sunshine gets released like the N64 on VC after the Zeldas were released.

Gamer83

#86

Gamer83 said:

Wasn't a fan of GC so I'm not too concerned about this, but since PS3 and Xbox have been getting games that were released on Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox and GC I'd like to see Wii U get the same things. For me, if I buy the Wii U, the major concern is VC games and WiiWare transfers. I purchased a ton of games from those two services and for convenience purposes would like an easy transfer process.

skywake

#87

skywake said:

@ people going "OMG! But the storage"......

The Wii U is said to support SD Cards, Thumbdrives and External HDDs. Go into any electronics store, pick up TBs of external storage for <$100. Problem solved.

TheGreenSpiny

#88

TheGreenSpiny said:

I like this idea, but have one big problem. How am I gonna plug in my Wavebird? The classic controller is fine for 2D games, 3D not so much.

Also Nintendo better add widescreen and pro-scan for games that don't already support it.

XCWarrior

#89

XCWarrior said:

I have all the Gamecube games I want, but its nice to know there must be a decent sized harddrive for Wii U to make this possible.

MeloMan

#90

MeloMan said:

I'll wait for the formal announcement but if true, then I was right. Time will tell, we gotta play our GC games beyond owning GC's "somehow"...

RedYoshi999

#91

RedYoshi999 said:

I've recently bought a few GCN games so the only ones left I want are Mario Party 6, Mario Party 7, Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door (this sells for $100 on ebay O.O), Zelda Four Swords and thats it I guess.

retro_player_22

#92

retro_player_22 said:

Well they did started to have some Dreamcast games on WiiWare so maybe it's obvious they'll have GameCube games there too. Though I don't know why they would put it as WiiWare when Virtual Console is solely the better place for it but if it's for WiiWare, the games better had online play support so we can play Super Smash Bros. Melee, Soul Calibur II, Capcom vs. SNK 2: EO, Wave Race: Blue Storm, LOZ: Four Swords Adventure, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, and F-Zero GX online through WiiWare, if not then what's the point of putting it as WW and not VC?

phoenix1818

#93

phoenix1818 said:

I hope this is true because there are so many good Gamecube games I missed out on (still haven't played Wind Waker), but if the console only has 8 GB then it seems unlikely.
I also want to know what happens to out current Wii Virtual Console games and if they can tranfer.

LeasTwanteD

#94

LeasTwanteD said:

I'd like to see GameCube's Resident Evil 2 - 3 + Code Veronica, Billy Hatcher and Beyond Good & Evil on it. They're about the only good games i didn't get back in the day. But maybe there'll be some surprises like Baldur's Gate too. :)

MrArkade

#95

MrArkade said:

Luigis mansion
Super mario sunshine
Mario kart double dash!!
...maybe animal crossing?

madgear

#96

madgear said:

Well I'm still playing through most of my GameCube games - lots still to complete including the likes of Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness and a Zelda title or two. There's no way I'm re-buying them and I doubt I'll get a Wii U either since I also have a ton of Wii games to play through too. I only have one games console at a time so I'm afraid the Wii U is going to have to wait a long time before I can get it - it's a shame, because GC compatibility would have been the thing that presuaded me. Anyway, I won't be missing out since I have my PC for HD gaming.

MelonYoshi

#97

MelonYoshi said:

give me double dash and melee, sunhine and luigis mansion i'll be happy with those games.

TKOWL

#98

TKOWL said:

I already own most of the GCN gems, but this would be much appreciated.

Yadoking

#99

Yadoking said:

I hope the library consists of more than just first party games. Also, MELEE ONLINE.

dinkelberg

#101

dinkelberg said:

hell yeah i belive this nintendo know the virtual console is one of their strongest strengts and if they want full backwards compability they need this. i hope i can play super mario sunshine and Mario Kart double dash and super smash bros melee i miss thous titles sooo much. and oh come on people we all was worried about using the classic controller and the pro version with N64 games and other game consoles and it turned out just awesome and fun maybe nintendo make a gamecube controller u can play via connnecting it to the Wii Remote if they include this they are awesome. i mean great third party games for nintendo is awesome in its own right and friend codes is even more epic. and then the virtual console get an extra console and all the vc games that are out now. wow sometimes i just love nintendo !

coolvw93

#103

coolvw93 said:

it would probably cost more than buying the actual game for gamecube. you can get gamecube games for cheap prices, it makes more sense to buy it than download the game.

JustanotherGamer

#104

JustanotherGamer said:

Hopefully Nintendo will have the downloadable Gamecube versions. arriving regularly? Just start uploading the entire Gamecube library onto the Nintendo servers. There are about 876 Gamecube games so just have the entire lot of them available for download the day of the Wii U launch. Instead of pissing around with a few each week.

OmegaM

#105

OmegaM said:

I think people are missing the point, if you break a GC disc, you wont be able to play it again, thus having to buy another one. Downloadable content is more like a "safe" way to have a game, If you buy it you'll know you can get it whenever you want, instead of worrying if the disc breaks, gets scratches or something.

magos2k7

#106

magos2k7 said:

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. And I would add I hope they would "cool it up"... place the spells on the small screen for easy access, and indicate missing pieces of any spells.

Wolfenstein83

#107

Wolfenstein83 said:

Wow, I hope this is true, because backwards compatibility is a big selling point for me.
I wonder if GC games will be playable in HD, but then again Nintendo stated that Wii games will only run in standard definition?
If the WiiU is more powerful than the PS3, why can't it display older games at a higher resolution?
I can play old original X-Box games on the 360 in 720p, so what's the deal?
Could it be Nintendo trying to keep secrets again, as usual?
I also don't understand why it can play Wii discs, but not GC?
If it has the hardware to play Wii games (which we all know is based on GC tech) then why not GC too?
Anyways, whatever the case may be, I hope this news turns out to be true, there are some GC games I never got to play the first time around.
Speaking of which, did anyone play Geist, and was it any good?
I really hope Skies of Arcadia is available to download, that game is great, but it's hard to find at a decent price these days, brand-new.
Oh, and one last thing, it would be cool if I could transfer VC and WiiWare games I already bought over to the WiiU.
=)

starcrunch061

#109

starcrunch061 said:

It's weird that you could download games, but the system wouldn't be backward compatible. Obviously, there is different technology, but for PS3, the same technology that allows you to download PS1 games also allows you to play them on the system.

I do hope it's true, though. The GC was easily the best gaming machine of last generation - it just didn't get enough support. Pikmin 2, Eternal Darkness, Wind Waker, SSB: Melee...great stuff.

Boyoshi

#110

Boyoshi said:

That's awesome but i already have quite a few game-cube game discs that i bought for my Wii, i don't want to have to re-buy them.

sdcazares1980

#111

sdcazares1980 said:

It is a terrible idea to not have backwards compatibility.

How about this: Nintendo should release the ENTIRE GameCube library as a downloadable service during the WiiU's life cycle. That way, the GameCube discs can be transitioned out for the following console after the WiiU. That would be better and it would give those that have current GameCube games an incentive to buy the downloadable games.

xj0462

#112

xj0462 said:

well another reason for mii to buy a wii u
will u be able to transfer vc gameand stuff to the wii u?
i would like to seee ssbm super mario sunshine both sonic game pokemon xd(enhanced to work with pokemon white)and alot more

vegeta

#115

vegeta said:

I highly doubt this is true but it would be awesome if they did release downloadable GC tittles.

Pete_Stooge

#116

Pete_Stooge said:

If i want the old, i just hook up my cube, or n64. still works fine anyway. Probably spares me a few bucks.

Ste

#117

Ste said:

I don't think this is surprising at all, didn't the later wiis lose their backward compatibility, I am pretty sure they did at least here in NA. Anyway Nintendo is a company out for profit first and foremost no matter what they say. But what they might want to do is offer an incentive to trade in your old VC games no matter the system but especially gamecube for a discount so that those copies can be recycled and more inportantly be taken off the secondary market.
Also I would like to see Beyond Good and Evil so hopefully people buying it online will convince ubisoft? to not only follow through on making a sequel but to make it for the wii u.

Ste

#118

Ste said:

Also for me personally, I probably won't get a Wii U right away as I still have a decent backlog of games to play and still some I am interested in both wii and gc but i am sure i will get one at somepoint. Will have to make sure it is still backward compatible to the wii, and am thinking of getting a second wii that is still gcn compatible as insurance anyway.

TJCeltic

#119

TJCeltic said:

Many have wondered whether the Wii U will include a Virtual Console service updated with GameCube games, and now NOA executive Amber McCollom has revealed that the answer is yes – through WiiWare. In an interview with NintendoGal, she is quoted as saying: GameCube discs will not be compatible with Wii U, but a number of the games that were playable on GameCube can be downloaded from WiiWare.


this is not true Nintendo knows that a Virtual Console App that can play any GameCube disk can be made (Hackers have made a hardware kit that does this on the Wii U already) & sold at more than $80 a pop they also know that no one will buy more than one because they would rather sell made by Nintendo ROMs in each Virtual Console download. Myself and everyone I ran into would love a GCN app that lets us play most copyrighted GCN disks and I would pay that $80 for the app from Nintendo but they wont make it because WiiWare brings in more money in multiple sales than a GCN Virtual Console App.

Holyfire

#120

Holyfire said:

@Erica_Hartmann
They're redoing Windwaker on WiiU, releasing very soon. Windwaker WiiU will be running on hardware about 20 times the performance. And it's an update. No need for Windwaker Gamecube to be released.
In face I'd call it a bad move on Nintendo to do so, as it'd detract attention away from the higher quality WiiU build.
Same goes for Metroid prime on that note, It's already got a compatible pointer control based Wii build. Gamecube version not necessary

Holyfire

#122

Holyfire said:

@Lan
WiiU has a 32 GB version. And even PS4/XBOX One will likely be depending on external harddrives to fit their downloadable content, and game installations. Get an external harddrive. It'll be fine

Poketendo

#124

Poketendo said:

I bought Super Smash Bros. N64 for the VC on my Wii, almost got addicted.
Then I got the Brawl disc to work anyway, got even closer to addiction.
And now I'm still waiting for Smash Bros. for 3DS, and I watch the trailers every few days, simply because I can't wait any longer.

But a lot of people proclaim Melee as the best in the series, and I'm curious whether this maybe really is the case (at least in my opinion). So Super Smash Bros. Melee would be a nice addition.

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