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USA VC Releases: Super Mario RPG and Clu Clu Land

Posted by Marcel van Duyn

If you're one of those people who, for some reason, didn't care that great games like Ys Book I & II, Samurai Shodown II and Mega Man came out recently, and only care about Nintendo games, maybe you can finally stop complaining this week - There's not one but two Nintendo games available later today.

Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars has been anticipated for a long time - It was listed on the ESRB (For the Wii) and later removed, causing many to wonder if it would ever come out. With Square Enix's previously lackluster support of the VC, things were looking extra grim, but anybody who had any doubts SMRPG would come out in the US can now finally rest easy knowing that this timeless RPG classic is finally out today. Co-developed by Square and Nintendo, Super Mario RPG is the most RPG-like of all the Mario RPGs, featuring a large variety of different stats, weapons, spells, equipment, items, party members, enemies and other RPG mainstays. On top of the great gameplay, the game has one of the greatest Mario soundtracks of all time - A treat for anybody's ears. Contrary to the ordering of this news article, Nintendo of America calls this the 250th VC game in the US.

Clu Clu Land is not really a surprise, yet at the same time, it actually is one. It's one of the last remaining non-import, Nintendo-developed NES games eligible for VC - All that's really left to release now is Golf, Pro Wrestling and StarTropics II. We didn't expect it to be released together with another Nintendo game though! In the game you play as Bubbles, a red, round creature you might know from a trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee, as she swings around posts in order to find hidden gold bars, which, when all uncovered, form a picture of something. Obviously, there are enemies to avoid as well!

Hopefully this will quiet down complainers for a while - We suspect it won't be long before they start demanding the release of something else, though!

On WiiWare, this week you can pick up My Aquarium, Hudson Soft's realistic fish tank sim. You know where to go!

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Bensei

#1

Bensei said:

I guessed you get SMRPG, since we get Y's this week.
Clu Clu Land is a nice fun Game, but I guess you can get games with more depths for 500 points. I hope we get it soon woth DK3 though
And you forgot Devil World :P It could be an import for America

Olimar_91

#2

Olimar_91 said:

Nice. Can't wait to download SMRPG! Been waiting a long time for that one. =)

DrakeStaff

#3

Drake said:

Yeah, I'm not including imports because the list would be a lot bigger :p

Just a few (Most aren't likely though due to necessary translation):
-Devil World (Coming to EU)
-Famicom Grand Prix
-Famicom Tantei Club
-Famicom Wars
-Fire Emblem
-Joy Mech Fight
-Nazo no Murasamejou

slangman

#4

slangman said:

Awesome week for just Super Mario RPG along. Highly recommended for all Mario fans and RPG fans alike.

Rexy

#5

Rexy said:

Let me be the first person to say, in spite of my disregarding of SMRPG as a world-class videogame title whatsoever, "let the complainers sizzle away"! :D

Ark

#6

Ark said:

Oh no. So much for fixing my sleeping pattern. :( Still, I'll be happy to get all three of these. Especially Super Mario RPG. :)

Also in Nintendo's Press Release, they seemed to acknowledge that the 250th VC game is something special.

Link79

#7

Link79 said:

Finally! Now everyone can start complaining about Majora's mask, DK 64, Secret of Mana or whatever the hell game you can't stand waiting for. Too bad I already own Mario RPG so this week sucks for me. I'm happy for everyone else though.

Phalyn

#9

Phalyn said:

I can hear the Angels singing, yes....YES finally we have SMRPG.
..... Now we can all grumble about why Earthbound isnt released yet :P
Next on my wishlist, Blaster Master, Castlevania III, and Double Dragon 2

Birdo

#12

Birdo said:

I can bet you people will stil find a way to complain today. Oh and hells yeah!

Chunky_Droid

#13

Chunky_Droid said:

probably won't get Clu Clu Land or My Aquarium.

Will definitely get Mario RPG though, me thinks along with Ys I'll be having an RPG month this month :D. Something I haven't had in a long while.

Next on my most wanted list, Majora's Mask, but I have enough games to last me until that release, whenever that'll be!

Chunky_Droid

#14

Chunky_Droid said:

I'm really surprised that Golf hasn't reached the Virtual Console, considering its successor for the NES is already out.

And you forgot Pro Wrestling Drake j/k

MaxPlastic

#15

MaxPlastic said:

Yay!! But seriously, you reviewers didn't have to deliver the news so scathingly to those who were hopeful for the game

Marioman64

#16

Marioman64 said:

LOVE
cool! my b-day prediction was right :)
but now i gotta mow the lawn, and take a shower, and do my homework, and blah blah blah
then i can save the world! w00t!

DrakeStaff

#17

Drake said:

We were only poking fun at those strange types who only want Nintendo games :p

worrybomb

#18

worrybomb said:

It'll quiet down the complainers...until they realize Earthbound hasn't been released yet. =P

Still, I'm glad SMRPG is available now in NA, EU, and Japan. And Clu Clu looks like an interesting game. Overall, another outstanding week for the VC.

Taco_Human

#19

Taco_Human said:

Guess I have to buy more points for Megaman 9 when it gets out. I only have enough for this and Megaman 2.

Foamyfan231

#21

Foamyfan231 said:

FINALLY!!!!! its about damn time! Now I just need to get wii points and then I will spend useless hours on the boob tube playing this amazing RPG

ttplayer92

#22

ttplayer92 said:

What, complainers are still going to complain about earthbound you know. ;) Although, I think their too busy calling up NoA demanding earthbound to be released because of that marathon thing going on.

Don

#23

Don said:

Maybe if enough people download SMRPG, Square and Nintendo will release a direct sequel to this game in the future or perhaps simply port this game to the Nintendo DS under the title "Super Mario RPG DS" or something like that.

Andrew

#24

Andrew said:

Not a great week for me to leave my Wii back at home. Curse you college...

Tides_of_Chaos

#25

Tides_of_Chaos said:

Great, I'm glad Mario RPG is finally released....but why couldn't they have done it a week earlier? Today's the last day of summer for me, school starts tomorrow and now I won't have as much time to play. Curse you school! CURSE YOU!!

Rapadash6

#27

Rapadash6 said:

My "roughly two months after the Japanese release" prediction was right! I expect the same thing to happen with other Nintendo published SNES titles going foward. Those that are released in Japan first, that is.

I already know what the next "complainers" game is going to be and that's Earthbound. (Duh!) Considering we have yet to see it in Japan even (and I'm 99% positive that it'll show up there first, btw) it could still be a good while yet before we yanks see it here in North America.

Virtual Console has been on fire lately and I really hope to see more top notch titles in the remainder of 2008. Obviously we have Mega Man 2 coming out very soon and promises of Earthworm Jim, Secret of Mana and Phantasy Star IV based on ESRB ratings and Japanese releases. Thinking about it, it was no doubt Nintendo's plan to hold these games back until the END of the year to make up for thier lame retail selection for the crucial holiday months.

I am really optimistic about the Virtual Console now that we've seen such a vast improvement both in quantity and quality over the past couple of months. Keep it up, Nintendo!

Terra

#32

Terra said:

Didn't expect Clu Clu Land. The ESRB clampdown on ratings is really working. I like that game so i may get it when released in Europe.

rkish

#35

rkish said:

Can't download in New York State yet...wouldn't figure until almost noon here.

Any idea why Canada would be able to download now?

Nobarai

#37

Nobarai said:

Svwisinm.....mnurrrg...gurgle.......

Ahem! Excuse me. I was drowning in my own drool.

Yaaaays! The virtual console is made out of win this week! Now I just need to get points....

DDR_Paladin356

#40

DDR_Paladin356 said:

And i just spent 900 on Samurai Shodown II....looks like I'll be spending more money on Super Mario RPG

Honestly, this is also a good sign for EB fans. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I think that it'll come out sometime soon. I can't wait.

Nobarai

#42

Nobarai said:

Anybody got any ideas on how to get wiipoints? I spent my last 50 bucks on Mario Super Sluggers....

Chipmunk777

#43

Chipmunk777 said:

Surprising! I didn't see this one coming at all. Ys last week, SMRPG this week.. Things have been going great for the VC lately! Although, I am stuck at that damn 2-floating-heads boss in Ys........ :P

dr_mario

#45

dr_mario said:

I guess all that's left to complain about is n64 games (majora's mask, I wonder if we'll get OoT Master's Quest, missed out on both of those) and Megaman but we at least know that 9 will be out soon and I guess Earthbound (never played it so I don't know what I'm missing)

Objection

#46

Objection said:

Nice week. I was wondering if I wanted to pick up points or not. Looks like I gotta. Happy birthday to me! Nobody is allowed to complain until next week!!

Sharecrow

#47

Sharecrow said:

awesome. Oh and Phalyn that is a good wishlist - I am wishing for those too....and Faxanadu. I'm not complaining though...I have plenty to play :)

AlphaNerd01

#49

AlphaNerd01 said:

It's a shame, but I'll be too busy with Y's. Great week for the hordes who have been screaming for this game for months now though.

North99

#50

North99 said:

I almost screamed-cried when I read this. Then I didn't believe it. So I logged into press.nintendo.com to double-check. It is true. I'm so damn happy. I quit my job and I have three days left before I go back to college. I'm so happy. So so happy!!! I love this game!!! I'd have slapped down a $100 bill to put this one on my VC!!! I love you again Nintendo!!! I'll throw my credit card number into the TV and put down $50 for VC points. YES!!!! Made my Monday!!!!

DarkMatter

#51

DarkMatter said:

Heck, I own SMRPG and I'm going to download it. It gives me some sort of blind hope that there will be a sequel one day if I support the game.

As for Clu Clu Land, I have that in Animal Crossing.

Now people can start complaining more about Earthbound, DK64, Majora's Mask, and Super Smash Bros.

Golgo1327

#52

Golgo1327 said:

Stoked, I never gave SMRPG a chance when It came out (I was a sega fanboy at the time). Now seems like a good time. Now it's time to play the "lets delete stuff" game to make room for it....

el_cabarto

#53

el_cabarto said:

Alright. Now that we have SMRPG I can start complaining about Secret of Mana. I'm kind of amazed an SNES game came out on VC, though. I thought that was illegal these days.

GameSearcher

#54

GameSearcher said:

After Ys 1+2 came out, I thought this week would stink. But we got 2 good rpgs in 2 weeks? Wow.

Iggy

#55

Iggy said:

didnt expecrt it to come this soon but who cares:p
i download it later today

JaredJ

#56

JaredJ said:

now I'm waiting for:
secret of mana
earthworm jim
castlevania rondo of blood

Ricardo91

#57

Ricardo91 said:

This week really pisses me off. Not because I don't like the games (quite the contrary, I practically wet myself when I saw the releases.), but because I have no way of downloading all these great games we're getting. I'm down to 300 Wii points (why oh why did I waste money on Ninja Commando????), and My mom forbids me to get a pre-paid credit card or a Wii points card because of school. Damn you, school!! DAMNNNNN YOOOOUUUU!!!!

Edit: Now let the bitching continue with Mega Man 2, Rondo of Blood, Earthbound, DK 64, Majora's Maak, Vectorman, and other such demandables! :D

@Drake. You forgot Shin Onigashima.

@Tony. You actually WANT Golf on the VC? Are you high?

Gitaroo_Dude

#60

Gitaroo_Dude said:

Wow, this is crazy.

Ys last week, and now SMRPG. Two amazing RPGs back to back on a service that had been in dire need of RPGs for so long?

Good show, Nintendo.

Kultist

#61

Kultist said:

Seems like drought VC weeks are all but a bad memory! Nice to see some really great games released these past few weeks. Now time to get some points, I haven't downloaded Ys yet, and now this.
This should also relieve the board of some unnecessary whining ;)

EDIT : I'm almost sorry today (labour day holiday) isn't rainy :P Oh well guess Ys and SMRPG will have to wait... runs outside

Mike1

#63

Mike1 said:

About time Nintendo! I'm excited because I never owned a SNES as a kid, and there for never playyed SMRPG. Also Clu Clu Land is a pretty fun game as well.

BB_Sting

#64

BB_Sting said:

Maybe we'll get Earthbound for the 300th release. If they'd just release Bomberman 1-3(SNES) that could keep me happy until then.

Stuffgamer1

#65

Stuffgamer1 said:

I woke up just now and the first thing I had to do was check the VC update to see if SMRPG had been released. I wasn't really execting it, but IT'S HEEEEEERE! And the Hallelujah Chorus (the version from Toejam & Earl) played loud and clear! I'm so glad I didn't waste my Wii points on Y's the other day like I was considering. Doesn't mean I won't try it later, mind you. But this is way more important.

Bendover83

#66

Bendover83 said:

OMG, OMG, OMG!!!
DOWNLOAD,DOWNLOAD, DOWNLOAD!!!
Phew, got that off my chest. This is another week that I predicted right. "Some random NES game and SMRPG." So next week will be... hmmm...Final Soldier and Mega Man 2 or Earthworm Jim. Mega Man 9 won't come out until the fourth or fifth monday of this month.
btw...In a months time we get Sonic, Mega Man, Samurai Shodown II, Y's book 1 & 2, and now SMRPG, this must be a slow time for Wii game sales. Also the greatest month in existence for the VC. So this month in games my predictions are: SMRPG(duh!), Clu Clu land(duh), Mega Man 2, Final Soldier, Cho Aniki, Phantasy Star IV, Earthworm Jim, Mario Golf, Secret of Mana, and World Heroes 2. That's two games a week, but I'm thinking one game on one of the weeks. *Remember those are predictions

Lugia2

#67

Lugia2 said:

Jeeze, we just got Ys. Thank god I already have SMRPG!

Then again, beat it like, five times. It's a really good game! Even if it isn't the most Marioy thing ever. Reccomended!

Looks like we're following the 2007 pattern: sucky first half, good-to-awesome second half of the year! Actually, Q1 2007 wasn't that bad. Maybe it's punishment for ESRB? Ah well, NOA gave us one of the trio of "I'M A BRAINDEAD NINTENDO FAN SO OTHER GAMES SUCK!" RPGs: SMRPG, EarthBound, and Chrono Trigger.

Wow, Starmen.net must be going nuts.

ChocoDK

#68

ChocoDK said:

Finally after almost 2yrs of waiting Super Mario RPG has been released. I am extremely happy it has finally come out but I wish it came out last week. I have to go back to school tomorrow so my time will be limited but either way I am extremely happy. Now I really am not hoping for anything to come out on the VC except maybe more N64 games.

Time to download it but before I do that time to delete stuff >_<.

Bass_X0

#69

Bass_X0 said:

i'm finding super mario rpg to be a short game for an rpg. i've only got three stars left to get and the first four were pretty easy.

And Booster is comedy gold. I was suprised to see Mario help him out though after he kidnapped Toadstool.

PHANTOM93

#70

PHANTOM93 said:

OH NOES ANOTHER AWESOME GAME THAT I WON'T HAVE TIME TO PLAY!! :-P
glares angerilly at school board for taking all my time away

Edit: was I the only person who had to go back to school LAST week? :-P

Danieru_Lynx

#71

Danieru_Lynx said:

Wow, so it's true, the Internet simply cannot survive without hate. First, people hate on Nintendo for not releasing SMRPG for the VC, and now people are hating on the haters for having hated now that they have it.

I also find it amusing just how many people are jumping on the 'People who like Nintendo games and nothing else deserve to be hated' bandwagon. Baa, :)

I'll just continue waiting patiently for Soleil, ;)

Organized_Confusion

#72

Organized_Confusion said:

awesome to finally see, but quick question for anyone. Is it possible to send 2,000 wii points to a friend rather than just gifting a game or two?

Bendover83

#73

Bendover83 said:

@Tony: I think Mr. Cheez is right. You are high. Mario Golf is million times better.
I'm officially marking this day on the calendar as SMRPG day (Scratches out Labor Day). We finally recieved a SNES game. w00t!

Virus

#74

Virus said:

What a day. I still have to get Ys before SMRPG, but I'm looking forward to it.

And Nintendo is already running out of Nintendo-developed NES games (at least not "imports")? I know that this nowhere near signifies the VC's end, but it seems a bit unsettling to me.

With all these great games coming out lately, I wonder if people are going to finally stop hating Nintendo...I was fine with the SMRPG complainers, but those people who said "Nintendo sucks!" kind of bothered me. Oh well, the complaints are bound to come back on a bad week, but hey, who cares?

lockelocke

#75

lockelocke said:

I'm just about finished with Paper Mario now, and though its a great game, playing it just reminds me how incredible SMRPG was when it first dropped. Don't sleep on this classic, the hype is beyond due.

PHANTOM93

#76

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Organized Confusion

All that you have to do to give someone 2000 points is tell them what the code on the back of a Wii Points Card is. Then that person types in the code on the Shop channel and receives the 2000 points.

DJ_Philanegro

#77

DJ_Philanegro said:

FINALLY - CLU CLU LAND! I used to get pretty far in this game, but that was back when I actually had skills at it. I'm probably going to get owned when I play it now.

Oh, and I guess that's cool for SMRPG. Whatever. :P In all seriousness though, I do enjoy both games. I got CCL on Animal Crossing, and my friends play SMRPG to death to this day, so I kind of got my fill on it.

Ricardo91

#78

Ricardo91 said:

@Phantom93. You're not alone. I started school last week too. In fact, I started the Wednesday before. :P

I say we bring back the VC sales roundups. With Ys at #12, Mega Man finally dethroning Super Mario Bros. from it's #2 position, and SMRPG sure to hit the top 10 in a few days, this is an occaision worth celebrating!

MrDanger88

#79

MrDanger88 said:

"If you're one of those people who, for some reason, didn't care that great games like Ys Book I & II, Samurai Shodown II and Mega Man came out recently..."

Ok two of those games are in compilations that have been released in the past 4 years. It is understandable why people don't want to spend more money on these games, but SMRPG hasn't been re-released since it launched in 1996. Assuming that people don't care about great games like Mega Man and Samurai Shodown II is foolish.

PHANTOM93

#81

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Mr.Cheez

Yay I'm not alone in the suffering that is the U.S. school system :-P
I should count myself lucky though since my sister had to start two weeks ago (then again her classes start at noon :-P)

MaxPlastic

#82

MaxPlastic said:

I'm glad the ESRB ratings have finally become more secretive... i actually like to be surprised. I also DLed My Aquarium... It's actually really cool, especially for the ambience. At 500 points, I think it's way worth it

SmaMan

#83

SmaMan said:

@ Mr. Cheez & PHANTOM

I started the week before too...and I'm not off for Labor Day!!! Ah well, SMBRPG is a good way to make up for that I guess. I already have Clu Clu Land on Animal Crossing which I recommend for anyone who wants to try these short, classic NES games. You get them all packed inside an already great game! What's not to love?

Kenji510

#84

Kenji510 said:

I was expecting that we get the japanese wiiware game "MaBoShi: The Three Shape Arcade" but hope it comes out soon like this month of Sept... but for now we are glad that we got "Super Mario RPG" that everyones been waiting for and one of my favorite wiiware games "My Aquarium" too as well... ill be getting and downloading these 2 games today! :D

carson

#85

carson said:

Yes, the prophecies were true. it's a happy labor day after all. im going to go buy Mario RPG right now!

#86

said:

Why in the world would you purchase Samurai Shodown II or Mega Man when they are both archived on collections with the other entries of the series? It seems like a waste of money.

#89

said:

Oh, I was going to ask a question. Does anybody notice the sword missing from the title screen of Super Mario RPG? In the Super Nintendo version (North American anyways), it is present.

DrakeStaff

#90

Drake said:

@ Badknux: Because some people only want that specific game. I know for a fact a lot of people even go as far as to call Samurai Shodown II the only good game in the series.

And the sword doesn't appear until after the prologue.

BB_Sting

#91

BB_Sting said:

This was practically the first rpg I've ever played. If it wasn't for this game I may have never been turned on to the genre to begin with. I originally bought it because it was a Mario game, not because it was an rpg. I tended to play it safe and only buy games with familiar characters in them. Which means that I would have never even considered the likes of Final Fantasy 7 if this game hadn't turned me onto rpgs. Thanks Nintendo! Now just give us Earthbound.

Organized_Confusion

#92

Organized_Confusion said:

@bb sting exact same thing with me. my first one and it got me playing others..........side note if anyone thinks Paper is better than this (I dont think I need to say anymore, it is pretty self explanatory that it is not).

DarkLloyd

#93

DarkLloyd said:

yes i guess i wont be needing super mario rpg that i have for an emulator anymore while the less i still have secret of mana, illusion of galia, secret of mana, final fantasy 1 to 4 for an emulator oh and earthbound
i think i wont get the gamecube megaman games 1 to 8
since i got one to 7 for the nes not sure if 8 is on nes.

Rawk_Hawk

#94

Rawk_Hawk said:

@ Bendover 83
You need to re-read my post I never compared NES Golf to Mario Golf. I just simply stated that I wanted to see 2 NES classics on the VC. The VC has enough room for both Golf games.
PS to Mr. Cheez- I do not partake of drugs or alcohol

Ark

#95

Ark said:

@BlackFira
Mega Man 7 is for SNES (not NES) and Mega Man 8 is for the PS/Sega Saturn.

Dang, I wish I had points for Mario RPG. Guess I'll wait until tomorrow. :)

AlexSays

#99

AlexSays said:

if anyone thinks Paper is better than this (I dont think I need to say anymore, it is pretty self explanatory that it is not).

So, you're saying Paper Mario 64 is inferior to Super Mario RPG?
I think the vast majority would disagree, including me.

Anyway, I'll probably run to the store today, just to buy a Wii Points card.

Bass_X0

#100

Bass_X0 said:

I haven't completed SMRPG yet, I think I am about half way through. But I think I have to place Paper Mario above SMRPG and SMRPG above The Thousand Year Door and Super Paper Mario at the bottom. Not really thought about where the Mario & Luigi games would go...

MrDanger88

#101

MrDanger88 said:

I've beaten both many times and I just like SMRPG more. SMRPG > Paper Mario > Mario and Luigi in my opinion.

Bass_X0

#102

Bass_X0 said:

Is there any truth to this comment?
"I noticed Megaman has a esrb thing and smrpg. Also Megaman is 15 blocks im thinking nintendo has a new compressing method still i just want my storage just wanted tell a little info"

If Nintendo are able to make games take up less blocks then thats surely a good thing and probably the nearest we'll get to more storage space.

"Super Mario RPG has some of the greatest SNES visuals."
No... for renders, they are quite rough. The DKC trilogy easily beats it. Final Fantasy VI looks a lot better and Yosh's Island arguably better. But thats just my opinion.

Rexy

#103

Rexy said:

You're actually right there Bass; with 3D renders on the SNES, nothing beats the Donkey Kong Country series - a true pioneer of graphical technology at the time.

Still, there's no way that Square would contact Nintendo for a sequel to this regardless of how many virtual copies would sell - they're no longer a first/second party developer for them, so there's no way they'd be totally adept to make a followup.

Besides, what we are REALLY missing is a proper Paper Mario sequel. As I keep saying, The Thousand Year Door has a more developed combat and exploration system at hand there, and given the potential I want to see it being followed up properly, not in a spin-off fashion like Super Paper Mario was (albeit it can be a great recommended title for newbies to the series).

RevolverLink

#104

RevolverLink said:

Super Mario RPG today AND The Office: Season 4 comes out tomorrow? Plus the NFL season finally starts on Thursday and Sunday. This is gonna be a great, great week! :)

Now to delete some more channels...

Zyzzybalubah

#105

Zyzzybalubah said:

This is just terrible... I was in the middle of FF Tactics A2 and they come out with SMRPG. I can't play both of these AMAZING games at the same time!!!

Kevin

#106

Kevin said:

Definately an awesome monday! No complaints here...for a while. Enjoy, everybody!

Rapadash6

#107

Rapadash6 said:

@Rexy

Nintendo stopped publishing the majority of Square titles well before SMRPG began development, so I don't see how a proper sequel is completely out of the question. Especially considering how much Square hearts the DS right now.

I do agree that Paper Mario needs a real sequel though. In a perfect world we'd see Paper Mario 3 next year and Super Mario RPG 2 in 2010.

Rexy

#108

Rexy said:

Well, given that they both share the exact same battle system schemes, I can't imagine them both co-existing at the same time (unless for some reason the Mario & Luigi sub-series gets scrapped altogether).

And even so, Square's a bigger company than it once was, with a lot more "pillars of entertainment" (lol?) to focus on; it's true that they have emphasised so much on the DS as of late, particularly with some of their own SNES title remakes as of late, but at the end of the day it's all about being strategic on what purchases would be more profitable at the end of the day rather than how many they unleash all at once. Given how long the DS has been out on the market (almost as long as the GBA was before a new handheld was announced), I think they've already found their feet regarding marketing strategies o.O

Rapadash6

#110

Rapadash6 said:

@Rexy

I find that while there are many similarities between RPG and the Paper games, they are both unique enough to stand on thier own. Paper Mario 2 and Mario & Luigi were released within a year of each other and they didn't seem to conflict at all among the fans, myself included.

I also don't understand what you mean when you say the company would rather focus on more profitable endeavors. What's more profitable in the game industry than Mario, exactly? Also, like Nintendo, Square consists of MANY development teams each focusing on thier own projects and sometimes more than one at a time, team size permitting.

Also, how do we know that Nintendo (Intelligent Systems) doesn't plan to involve Square in a true Paper Mario sequel? Given that the relationship between the two companies has improved significantly over the past few years, such a group effort seems fairly realistic in my opinion.

Not saying you're outwardly wrong about everything you've stated but I really have to disagree that Square would outright turn down the opportunity to work on another Mario related RPG. It would be a project that would benifit both companies involved.

Bass_X0

#111

Bass_X0 said:

"What's more profitable in the game industry than Mario, exactly?"

Sadly Mario has been abused many times what with all the spin-off titles.

AJL

#112

AJL said:

Just for fun, my ranking of the Mario RPG games, though I still haven't played Mario RPG or Super PM:
From best to worst
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (One of my all time favourites)
Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door (Awesome)
Paper Mario (Basicly as awesome as TYD)
M&L: Partners in Time (Disapointing, just average)

MaxPlastic

#113

MaxPlastic said:

@ Rexy: I would also like to see a "real" Paper Mario sequel, instead of Mario RPG 2. If Square, they way they are now, made another Mario RPG, it'd end up having some new emo kid with spikey hair designed by Tetsuya Nomura and probably more Final Fantasy characters...
Super Mario Hearts: Stars of Broken Silence

@ Rapadash: I think Square would be more likely to work on a Mario & Luigi game, since some of the the staff already did with the other two anyway; That and Square loves the DS. I also don't think Intelligent Systems and Square need to collaborate on anything. The two styles would clash

Rapadash6

#114

Rapadash6 said:

@Bass X0

"Sadly Mario has been abused many times what with all the spin-off titles."

Doesn't that just prove my point though? Mario seems to sell whether or not the game he's in is bad or not. (See Mario Party series, Mario sports titles) He's the greatest icon in the business.

Bass_X0

#116

Bass_X0 said:

yeah. i wasn't disagreeing with you and fifteen years ago, i'd have been buying up every game with mario in it regardless of whatever it was. I've only ever bought the first Mario Party game and the only sports game was N64 Mario Golf. Since then I've learned to stay away from games that i thought i wouldn't enjoy even if they did feature Mario.

Digiki

#117

Digiki said:

@Rapidash6
The first 3 Mario Parties were made of w1n, so was Mario Tennis on N64, and the Mario Golfs, and Strikers Charged was quite good too.

Speaking of Mario Party, I'd love to get 2 as it is MIA from my N64 collection, and am quite suprised none of them have came out yet.

timp29

#119

timp29 said:

Wow, I didnt expect smrpg to hit the states so soon. This kinda feels like nintendo has heard the voices of a lot of angry and upset people sick of crap releases and pacified us all in 2 weeks.

Jolted85

#120

Jolted85 said:

Zomg! Super Mario RPG!

I've never played it, but when I get this on the VC it'll be my first time, least now the people in US can quit complaining about it.

Rexy

#121

Rexy said:

@Rapidash, comment #112: What's more profitable, you ask? One can arguably say Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest (at least in Japan), and even the Kingdom Hearts series is starting to kick up a lot of steam on a financial standpoint. Those three are Square's most major pillars at this moment in time at least, and I'm really sure that they might not throw in the time and resources to do another Mario RPG.

And now that we're thinking of it, MaxPlastic's comment (#115) similarly sums up Square's PR strategy in recent years - their character designs, no matter how popular they tend to be, have been getting from bad to worse and there's no thinking on what they'd do with Mario these days than make the franchise more emo than it should be and over-inflate the original-characters-with-corny-spiked-hair department. That said, Nintendo doesn't need Square to make a great Mario RPG - their first/second parties can manage just fine.

RadioShadow

#122

RadioShadow said:

I see Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario as different games rather than sequels. Plus if you want a similar game to Super Mario RPG, go and buy Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time. It uses the same battle system and has a similar feel to SMRPG.

TheLuigiDude

#124

TheLuigiDude said:

@ Rexy- Really...I couldn't agree more, though I'd love to see the characters from SMRPG return to the franchise in some way one day.

ANYWAY I FINALLY got my hands on SMRPG and while its a very interesting title and I can already see why people love it so...I have to say its a little slow in battles. Then again I'm used to playing battles out at Dragon Warrior speed. So now to decide on Ys book vs. Samurai Shodown...hmmm...never played Ys book though so I should get that game...but what about Strong Bad's cool game for attractive people? So many choices, so little money.

Bendover83

#125

Bendover83 said:

Here's the milestone list starting with game #100. For anyone who doesn't know what they are by now.
#100 - Zelda II
#150 - SMB: Lost Levels
#200 - Harvest Moon
#250 - SMRPG

Cally

#126

Cally said:

As someone who is in seventh heaven with Ys for the first time, it is kind of unfortunate that that might get overlooked--especially since Hudson's success with the thing might vaguely mean some hope of its sequels (not to mention remakes) getting localized, finally. It wouldn't be the first time for such a thing to happen with an old JRPG.

But about this release:

As someone who got both SMRPG and Paper Mario when they both came out, I have a really hard time with the Paper Mario when I compare it with this game, which is to say, when I don't, I end up enjoying Paper Mario for what it is.

Square has been the equivalent of Disney (hence their collaborations) in their expertise of creating worlds and original characters. Their RPGs are exceptional at taking a player through many distinct, fully-realized worlds while still holding onto a cohesive storyline. Super Mario RPG actually took all kinds of chances with the Mario universe for once, even daring to write fairly filled-out personalities for characters like Peach and Bowser that succeeded and made sense (the latter being absolutely classic), and take them through new territories while expanding familiar ones. I find it hard to argue that Super Mario RPG didn't take WAY more chances in this regard than any of its successors (yes, my library is TTYD-deficient for the time being).

Super Mario RPG is probably more a "Square game" than a "Nintendo game," but this gig for Square was handled with such great respect for its source material that this neither feels like an "RPG with Mario pasted in it" nor a lazy cash-in with established icons. (the latter is kind of how I felt about Paper Mario at the time, with almost NO new worlds, characters, or storyline more than an extension of the platformers' stories) Looking back, it also probably didn't help that I was playing Skies of Arcadia, Grandia 2, Final Fantasy IX, and Chrono Cross and many other super-ambitious RPGs around the same time. (As for FFIX, old-school look with new horsepower and some gameplay WAS ambitious for the time) I believe the collaboration was an epic success.

Easily one of my top-ten SNES games, which I don't say lightly. It's simply escapist entertainment at some of its finest.

CanisWolfred

#127

CanisWolfred said:

Wow. Just, WOW! I was NOT expecting to see this today. I was wondering what to get with the remaining 800 points I'll have once I get Ys and SamSho2, now I know. Too bad I have like 3 other games to beat first. Oh well, I'll try to get a point card this week end. Till then, congrats on all those who waited so patiently for this game, I hope you're having a great time!

XCWarrior

#128

XCWarrior said:

YES! SMRPG finally comes out in the Americas! I love it. I will be downloading as soon as I get done watching Cliff Lee win his 20th game of the season! WaHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

AlexSays

#129

AlexSays said:

Just downloaded it.
I went out and bought some points for this momentous occasion.

Now I'm debating whether or not to buy YS Book I & II..

Sharecrow

#133

Sharecrow said:

@x.supermario.x - ys is definitely worth downloading. I haven't done it yet but expect to soon...

XCWarrior

#134

XCWarrior said:

After I get through SMRPG, I'll get Ys probably. Just wish I had more time for all of these games. So difficult when you to work. Why can't I be 15 again?

AlexSays

#135

AlexSays said:

If I don't find 800 points worth of fun out of Ys, I'm hunting you each down one by one.

@ XCWarrior- I'd rather be 16, since that's when teens can start driving. (In Florida that is..)

#136

said:

I was caught completely off-guard today. Especially since I've been dirt broke, but somebody came through for me and I have both SMRPG and Ys Book I & II. I'm currently playing through SMRPG for at least the 30th time. I've beaten it in an entire sitting once. :D

Ark

#137

Ark said:

@SuperMario
I'd recommend getting Ys, but the first few moments with it might not be that great. I found it boring for the first 40-60 mins or so, but then it started picking up and I began to really like it. Not sure if you'd feel the same way, just saying. Great game. :)

And I wish I had Wii Points for SMRPG. ;_;

StarDust4Ever

#139

StarDust4Ever said:

Yay! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Okay, now that I've downloaded it,
where's Super Mario Kart and SMW2: Yoshi's Island?
Let the gripings continue, just kidding, LOL!

#141

said:

@ Drake

I just noticed the sword thing today. I had never gotten it new before, so it totally threw me for a loop.

And I can see your point, but I would prefer to have the entire series as opposed to just one entry. To me, it seems like a waste of money.

Mario_maniac

#143

Mario_maniac said:

Hooray! Now only South Korea has to wait to get SMRPG... and I imagine it'll be quite a long wait for them. = /

It's strange, but after beating a certain boss with tentacles, I lost interest in the game. Perhaps I should try getting back into it, sooner rather than later.

Bass_X0

#144

Bass_X0 said:

I'm surprised at how many people weren't expecting Super Mario RPG to come out in America soon after it was released in Europe.

Bendover83

#145

Bendover83 said:

The other Mario games not yet out:
Super Mario Kart, Mario Golf, Mario Party 1 - 5 I think, Mario Tennis, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Picross(USA), Mario All-Stars, Mario Paint, and Mario is Missing. There's probably a few more I didn't mention. Mario's done it all. He's been used.

Tabbyluigi

#146

Tabbyluigi said:

Bendover83: Mario Party 1-3 are the only Mario Party games that can be on the virtual console, an there are tons of othe Mario games that can come out on the virtual console, you just mentioned all of the good ones except Mario is Missing...Oh and let these comments go to 300!

Jockolantern

#147

Jockolantern said:

Holy crap! Thanks, Nintendo, for three straights weeks of FANTASTIC releases. I cannot wait to get home and download SMRPG! Oh, how I have missed playing it... and how I look forward to enjoying it on my 42" widescreen television. Awesome, awesome release, Nintendo!

Keep! It! UP!

Kevin

#148

Kevin said:

Hopefully this is a sign that the second half of the year will be great for VC releases. But Nintendo please, do some catch-up weeks now and then. It would be nice you know. (Vectorman & Mario Picross. Hint, hint.)

XCWarrior

#150

XCWarrior said:

@ Bass XO It's because we are used to being screwed over time and time again. It's about time the pattern kept the way it should so we finally got what we want. It makes for a good "sorry you have to go back to school" present. Well, for thsoe of you in school anyway. For me, its like, "Here you go. When you don't have hours of work to bring home, you can play this."

Still super awesome cool though.

MarkyVigoroth

#151

MarkyVigoroth said:

"If you're one of those people who, for some reason, didn't care that great games like Ys Book I & II, Samurai Shodown II and Mega Man came out recently, and only care about Nintendo games, maybe you can finally stop complaining this week - There's not one but two Nintendo games available later today."

For some reason, that made me feel bad about myself, yet that comment is partially true; the battle system of Ys turned me off somewhat (though I am willing to give it a chance), Samurai Showdown is new to me, and I am waiting for Rockman IX instead of Rockman I.

Hehe... I did 3 dances when I figured out the release of Mario RPG!

"Hopefully this will quiet down complainers for a while - We suspect it won't be long before they start demanding the release of something else, though!"
I am hoping for Chrono Trigger or Mother 1 or 2, yet I do not wasnt to whine about that...

ttplayer92-san, I also plan to call. I hope they at least release Mother 2 in P.R./U.S.A. VC...

Mr. Andrew and Tides of Chaos-san, college started in August in Puerto Rico, so I do not have much to complain. (At least Labour Day is a school-free holiday in said country...)

aphexbr

#152

aphexbr said:

"I am hoping for Chrono Trigger or Mother 1 or 2, yet I do not wasnt to whine about that.."

Forget it guys, Chrono Trigger is getting a DS remake soon so you have as much chance of getting that on VC as FF 1-6 - not much...

Rapadash6

#153

Rapadash6 said:

@Rexy - Comment# 123

While it's debatable which companies properties are more valuable (which I would still highly insist Nintendo has the upper hand here) I do have to agree with your last comment that Nintendo doesn't need Square to make a good Mario RPG. Of all of them I feel The Thousand Year Door was the best of the lot easilly.

Ricardo91

#154

Ricardo91 said:

@The people debating about which Mario RPG is the best. I haven't gotten to download SMRPG yet, due to school and a strict mother, but for me, the best Mario RPG is a toss-up between Superstar Saga and The Thousand-Year Door. What made SS so great is how much variety it had. Every fight had it's own fun little twist, and there was always a minigame or platform section or something to break up the RPG battles. That, and the characters were hilarious. Who could forget such memorable faces as Fawful, Popple, and Prince Peasley? Certainly no normal person.

@Bass. I kind of expected it.

Rexy

#155

Rexy said:

Those wanting "weeks like this to continue":

Didn't we already have this marketing discussion close to SSBB's European release? If Nintendo releases multiple highly-profitable titles in close proximity, the titles won't get their maximum potential profit, you'd be stuck in a choice on what to play and unintentionally leave some games behind, and those so-called close releases could be ditched in favor of another Wii Series title or something. :p

Just be greatful that we've had three highly-profitable weeks in a row. Expect the whole marketing hoohah to calm down and you can play with your new toys well into the Autumn months :)

Rapadash6

#156

Rapadash6 said:

I don't think Nintendo will keep rolling out the hits week after week either. Even when Virtual Console releases were at thier best we didn't get the highly demanded games that close to each other. It just doesn't make sense from a business stand point.

Of course, I think Nintendo knows that Animal Crossing and Wii Music, thier only holiday season retail releases for the system, won't appeal to everyone and they will offer a handful of quality VC releases to make up for it. The remaining four months of 2008 look promising from what I can tell. (Mega Man 2, Secret of Mana, Dracula X, Earthbound. All potential releases.)

Point is, no one should really be complaining next week when we don't get Earthbound or Majora's Mask. Nintendo is not going to give us those all at once, I promise you.

Bendover83

#157

Bendover83 said:

@Digiki: Thx. O, I've actually done that before. I remember now. I don't use (Edit) other parts of Wii Shop as much anymore.
@Tabbyluigi: Ya, I agree it isn't very good, but I remember playing it back in the day and I wouldn't mind getting it. It sux yes, but it's a rare game to get. It will probably be one of the last VC games. As I said before: "Mega Man 2 and Final Soldier next week." Actually Mega Man 2 the week after next. Could "Ninty" really release another stellar game next week?

Kultist

#158

Kultist said:

Regarding next week, I think we're due to return to regular stuff, SMRPG was a pretty big 250th release, so nobody should get his hopes high. Though I do hope we get Mana pretty soon, I think I'd be starting to complain about "YARPG" if we get it next week since, well, getting too much RPGs in a row is bad for your health, mmmkay?

Rexy

#159

Rexy said:

It's nowt to do with it being "yet another one", but rather us having problems playing the game because we're already occupied with another at the same time. RPG releases should be sparodic and a great treat for those that love to take a break from the world around us, no matter how great the genre is :)

AlexSays

#160

AlexSays said:

You'd be stuck in a choice on what to play and unintentionally leave some games behind

Because it's amazingly hard to write games down, and download them whenever.
I see your point, but I don't ignore games because they've been released months before.

Getting too much RPGs in a row is bad for your health

100% wrong.
You're not forced to play the game as soon as it's released.
Download the game, save it for later.
It's certainly better than hoping for non-RPG releases, because that'll upset the people that don't entirely love SMRPG or YS.

Stuffgamer1

#161

Stuffgamer1 said:

I know I have an unusually large amount of expendable cash (good number of work hours and practically zero finantial responsibility), but I for one tend to buy great games when they release and sometimes not get around to playing them for a long time. I can do that with retail releases, so I sure as heck could do that with the super awesome VC releases. The only thing that might hold me back is memory (I only have around 800-900 free blocks and don't want to use them up on games I won't play TOO much). Still, I know I'm unusual, and I don't mind if things slow down a bit now.
Also, am I the only person here who's looking forward to Animal Crossing: City Folk? I may be a core gamer, but I still love the series and haven't played any AC since last year (never should have traded Wild World in :P )! So it's not Mario or Zelda. It'll still be a great game.

Rapadash6

#162

Rapadash6 said:

True, I wouldn't want TOO many RPGs at once. They should release about one every month, to keep the longer game experiences from stepping on each others feet. With Earthbound, Phantasy Star IV, Shining Force II and Secret of Mana KNOWN to be coming out, not to mention any others we don't, Nintendo is likely considering the best method of distributing these much more "in depth" games experiences.

As for next weeks releases, I'd wager that'd be our monthly import update with the two TG16 games announced for september. (both of them being import titles afterall). Mega Man 2 will probably come out the week after and there is no indication as to anything else coming out for the month of September but I wouldn't count on anything Earth shattering. Especially considering what we already know we're getting or have gotten this month and Mega Man 9 and Wario Land being released at the end of September, there really isn't any room for surprises. No one should really be complaining either, though.

Gitaroo_Dude

#163

Gitaroo_Dude said:

@ Rexy

That's a totally asinine philosophy.

I don't want a video game company to take some paternal attitude towards my gaming habits. That is to say, they shouldn't make RPGs such rare releases in the hopes that we take our time to consume each release.

Let us decide how we play them.

AlexSays

#164

AlexSays said:

I'm not sure why anyone would like for Nintendo to decide how long we play our games for.

RPG fans would want RPG's all the time.
Same goes for EVERY other genre.
So I don't get the whole "RPG games should be a once a month" thing.

But then again, I like playing games on my own terms.
Maybe that's just me though.

Bass_X0

#165

Bass_X0 said:

even if you don't like RPGs, if you ever played and enjoyed a mario game, then you should download super mario rpg.

Rexy

#166

Rexy said:

@Gitaroo_Dude, comment #165: How is my comment silly to begin with? Seriously, I've had my fair share of buying a few games and leaving them aside for a while, but that ends up primarily being related to having other tasks to plow through at the same time, and often times I forget that I even bought them in the first place. It's like any other work of fiction - if you're not going to play it at least within the first three months of obtaining it, then what are you doing with it at that moment in time?

And let's not forget something - Nintendo's cracking down on personal safety when playing videogames is another implication on opting for games with shorter completion times more frequently on the VC. They seem to already have had these "paternal" habits since including that health and safety regulations screen every time you want to play a game, but at the end of the day, they seem to be more thoughtful of their consumers than their competition (even though the screen does tend to get annoying, I agree :p).

Kriqz

#167

Kriqz said:

I don't think it's a matter of Ninty 'forcing us' to play through each RPG slowly, but rather marketing strategy. Flooding any genre will reduce overall sales for each game in that genre.

Had Ys1-2 been released after SMRPG, I do believe that total sales would've suffered as RPGers would've been more inclined to buy SMRPG and wait until they've finished it before considering another game. By that time another RPG would come along (say Secret of Mana, Phantasy Star IV or Earthbound) and only those who truelly wanted Ys would've downloaded it, and those who just wanted to see it would've probably passed on it. It's no secret that the highest sales week for any game is the week it's released, and if people are otherwise occupied that week then they're more likely to pass on an obscure/less popular game than they would for a more popular game. (ie. there were more people on the fence about Ys than there were about SMRPG, if SMRPG came out right before Ys, then those on the fence about Ys may pass on it for it's first couple weeks after getting their RPG fix from SMRPG, and then forget about it.)

My guess for RPGs in the next 50 games is we'll see PSIV and SoM come out in the next 2-3 months, with Ninty's Earthbound being the 300th release.

MarkyVigoroth

#168

MarkyVigoroth said:

aphexbr-san:
"Forget it guys, Chrono Trigger is getting a DS remake soon so you have as much chance of getting that on VC as FF 1-6 - not much..."
That was just a "back-of-the-heart" hope I had. I would wait a good ammount of time for Chrono Trigger to be released on VC (try the next Hanabi Festival or the 300th VC game). If it would not have come out at said times, I would buy the DS version, whose price would have lowered a lot. (The thing that worries me is the event of Chrono Trigger being on VC after I got the DS version... Crooked cucumbers...)

By the way, does anybody notice how they emphasized the 250th game? It may be due to Labour Day being at the same day as a VC release with the 250th game coming in the meantime, so they released a legendary game to commemorate this allignment.

Also, if Mother 2 was released as the 300th game (as I agree, yet hope that it comes sooner, best being next Monday), then, if 2 VC games were released per day, Mother 2 would come out in February 23. (Hehe... I gave you a date to mark...)

Ricardo91

#169

Ricardo91 said:

@M. Vigoroth. I don't know if it's gonna come out on that particular day, but I too have a feeling that we'll be getting Earthbound/Mother 2 sometime in winter. Hopefully near Christmas, cuz that's be awesome!

AlexSays

#170

AlexSays said:

@ Rexy- Wait, so Nintendo is releasing shorter games, more often, so that everyone will see the safety screen on a regular basis?

Because that's what I got out of that..

Sharecrow

#171

Sharecrow said:

I think the existence of the safety screen was just an example of Nintendo's mindfulness of safety concerns. Not to put words in anyone's mouth but that was what I understood...

brooks83

#173

brooks83 said:

Rexy...seriously, sometimes you just come off as so arrogant. You act like you always have the right answer and that only your opinion matters. For god's sake, quit analzying everything, quit being a know-it-all, and get a life.

Kriqz

#174

Kriqz said:

The safety screen is to protect Ninty from stupid people suing them for doing stupid things.

"Oh, Ninty didn't tell me I could crack my brother's head open if I hit him with my wii-mote, so I'm suing Ninty for a billion dollars!!!!"

Will

#175

Will said:

"Rexy...seriously, sometimes you just come off as so arrogant. You act like you always have the right answer and that only your opinion matters. For god's sake, quit analzying everything, quit being a know-it-all, and get a life."

Im going to second this.

AlexSays

#176

AlexSays said:

Rexy...seriously, sometimes you just come off as so arrogant. You act like you always have the right answer and that only your opinion matters.

The whole "arrogant" thing is just the difficulty of picking up attitude over the internet.
It's impossible to accurately determine someone's attitude/personality by what they type.

Oh, and she thinks she always has the right answer?
Oh, okay.
So by giving an opinion, you accuse someone of spreading their opinion as fact.
Nowhere has Rexy stated, all of her opinions are correct, and anyone who differs is wrong.
Nice try though, at... you know... insulting a regular, credible member of this site.

For god's sake, quit analzying everything, quit being a know-it-all, and get a life.

So by analyzing video games, on a video game site, she needs to get a life.
But analyzing other members, on a video game site, somehow seems okay?
Glad we cleared that up.
I guess I'll just start telling everybody what I think of them, instead of... you know... using this site for it's intended purpose.

CorbsAdmin

#177

Corbs said:

Okay, now you guys are just bitching for the sake of bitching. Don't make me abuse my mod privileges. I'll do it...I really will. :P

AlexSays

#178

AlexSays said:

Well when Nintendo comes through with a great week, people feel the need to complain about something. I guess this is the "complain about people we don't like" week...

So let me start with Corbie.
He thinks his reviews are SOO great, it's ridiculous...
NOIMJUSTKIDDING!

And to make this somewhat related to the article...
I just started Super Mario RPG.
I guess I'll download Ys after I finish.

Ricardo91

#179

Ricardo91 said:

Guh! Can we just have one single peaceful release article for once? Nobody answer that, cuz I already know the answer: NO. :P

Sharecrow

#180

Sharecrow said:

I never seem to get angry about comments...opinionated or not they are just comments. I am mostly a mellow guy though...mostly... :)

Bendover83

#182

Bendover83 said:

Is this Virtual Bash a Person.com. (VBP.com) NO! This is the VC-R. Let's argue about games, game related things, or opinions about games, and not bash people who have opinions or wanted to state something that was on their mind. Ya, let's argue about what other people have in mind but don't just blind side them with an insult. Ex. Innocent person: "So Nintendo should never put in a memory upgrade for the Wii." BASHER: "YOUR'RE STUPID FOR EVEN SAYING THAT."
Anywho, going to play SMRPG and collect some frog coins.

Stuffgamer1

#183

Stuffgamer1 said:

What I think Rexy meant is that Nintendo wants us playing shorter games so that we HAVE to take a break every so often and CAN'T play one amazing RPG for hours on end. Of course, a REAL gamer would instead be forced to buy more games and play them back-to-back. Either way, Nintendo would probably consider it a success.

None of my coworkers at Gamestop seem to care all that much about SMRPG. Then again, they all mostly ignore their Wii's in general. I like Xbox 360 too, but I won't ignore my Wii like that. Not when games this amazing release!

Sharecrow

#184

Sharecrow said:

I am excited to play SMRPG. My step-son has downloaded it but I haven't played it yet personally...am wanting to beat Breath of Fire II first. I am at the last dungeon so it shouldn't be too long. As much as I want to play Ys books 1 & 2, I think I'll end up playing SMRPG first. That is in part because it is already downloaded but also in part because of its acclaim... Exciting stuff!!!

CorbsAdmin

#185

Corbs said:

About the only downside to playing Super Mario RPG first is that it will make the visuals in Ys seem downright pitiful. Both are great rpgs, just very different.

I'm currently using my Japanese PS3 account to download all the great shooters from the Japanese Playstation Store. It's a shame these games will never see the light of day in the US. Sony should take a page out of Nintendo's Virtual Console book.

Bendover83

#187

Bendover83 said:

SMRPG got me side tracked from playing Y's. I'll start playing Y's again soon though. I deffinently want to beat Y's before I start getting too much into SMRPG, since I've played that game so many times when it was first out.

Rexy

#188

Rexy said:

@Mario, comment #178: Thank you. :) It gets really annoying when one's opinions results in one getting bashed as a person; that's why I almost considered leaving a few weeks back, and you know I didn't want to do that.

Still, putting it this way, I can't really imagine many games in Nintendo's current Wii library that tend to have some kind of lifespan beyond 20 hours excluding any online/multiplayer opportunities. I'm not saying that all games released have lifespans shorter than 5 hours - quite a lot of these actually have the incentive to go back and play again once you're finished, to be precise. Either way, I feel that this is another aspect to the whole financial investment in the long run.

And I find it funny when someone tells me to "get a life" when my playing habits intend that I already have one, thank you very much. ;)

#189

said:

I don't want to offend anyone in particular, but I have to agree with the above comments. Despite the fact that this is a video game website, someone going around and acting like they have some sort of universal understanding, and an answer for everything, is quite annoying. But, an opinion is an opinion, like it or not.

CorbsAdmin

#190

Corbs said:

Life's are so overrated. :P

And I'll say this - being openly opinionated is all well and good, but you'd better be prepared to back it up and deal with the backlash that comes along with it, unfortunately. Just don't take it too seriously. :)

Objection

#191

Objection said:

Its funny, since up until recently (and perhaps it still is) being interested in video games meant you "had no life" in the first place. Personally, I find the phrase useless to begin with. A person's life is what they make of it and other people trying to judge its quality or lack thereof is stupid. In the future, to Brooks83, etc., if you are going to disagree with someone: GREAT. Seriously, that's awesome. Just make sure that you have a real counterpoint (something that explains why you disagree) and that you aren't just insulting or bashing. Try "Rexy, I heavily disagree with you because I think/saw/read..." instead of things along the lines of "Rexy, you are so arrogant and annoying and I don't like you." Debates are interesting, they keep things going. Just keep them intelligent and civilized. Thanks.

brooks83

#192

brooks83 said:

Ok look, I do apologize to Rexy for what I said. It was pointless. For reasons I won't get into I have kind of held a grudge against Rexy for awhile, and now I guess when I see one of her long opinionated responces I just see it as arrogant, whether or not it really is. But Rexy is entitled to her opinion, and I'm sorry for what I said. Rexy if you're reading, I'm sure that you are probably a really cool person, and I hope you can accept my apology.

Rawk_Hawk

#194

Rawk_Hawk said:

@ Rexy
Don't let people get to you. You make good points in your posts and have never "flamed" anyone. Hey at least no one ever accused of being "high" because you like Golf.

But yes everyone is entitled to thier opinion and in the end these are just games. No need to insult another over video games. I have seen other sites with boards that are far more volitile than this one. Thats why I stay with this site.Its the best:)

@ Corbie
What are your impressions of Final Soldier when it comes out this month? I picked up Lords of Thunder and Soldier blade based off your reviews. Those games rock! I love em

Rexy

#196

Rexy said:

@brooks, comment #194: Well, I've learnt about how the way things go around here over the course of the first half of the year, and I've managed to tone my arguments a little more due to this. If I ever came off as arrogant, then that's another means for me to just tone things down, so all is forgiven. We're all human beings :)

@Tony, comment #196: There's nothing wrong with liking Golf - it's your choice of appreciation at the end of the day. :) If that helps I have guilty pleasures with my old Game Boy pinball game collection, so there we go.

But you're right though - I generally come here to be informed of the latest VC fix, and there ARE a lot of sites that tend to be more hostile in nature (read: GameFAQs for one). Though my opinions may conflict from time to time, the staff here have done a lot to inform us of what can currently be seen as an under-promoted part of Nintendo's current game offerings, so for that I say a job well done.

Terra

#197

Terra said:

I want Clu Clu Land next Friday. I Hope that the Hanabi festival doesn't delay it in any way

Bass_X0

#198

Bass_X0 said:

I prefer to come here to discuss games; it really is a more pleasant place than elsewhere. Although I've been at GameFAQs since 2002, I've become somewhat tired of the hostilities and unchecked arrogance that have plagued the game boards for the last few years. And I'm expecting Clu Clu Land the week after next; Spelunker and DoReMi tomorrow then WiiWare next week. I hope we get SMS Sonic 1 soon, I'd download it.

CorbsAdmin

#199

Corbs said:

Final Soldier is fantastic. It's not QUITE as good as Soldier Blade, but it's close. It's also not quite as difficult as Soldier Blade and Super Star Soldier. It's definitely worth your money if you love Soldier Blade, that I can say without hesitation. :)

Stuffgamer1

#200

Stuffgamer1 said:

I agree about the relative civility of this site. The only other forums I use with regularity are Gamespot and Playstation.com, and they both have hundreds of contrary morons who refuse to consider or even respect other people's opinions. Here, however, we can work out misunderstandings, like what happened with x.SuperMario.x last week. All it takes is a little thought!

Also, I don't want to come off as creepy or anything, but I found myself thinking of this little argument about Rexy when I looked at my Apollo Justice poster last night. The power of an avatar, eh? I only mention it because I laughed at the absurdity of it and thought someone here might be amused as well. Maybe not. Who knows?

Mike1

#201

Mike1 said:

@Rexy and Bass
I prefer Gamefaqs when I want actual game info. However, anything VC related has to come from this site. Every topic on Gamefaqs is from some oaf making a topic about how Earthbound has to come out, or Nintendo isn't fair! This site has intellegent people who openly discuss about the VC, and not just complain about no Earthbound.

#202

said:

Hopefully there will be more news soon, or this comment column will have to be extended to two pages.

AlexSays

#204

AlexSays said:

@ BB Sting- Okay, couple things...

1.) That article is more than a month old.
2.) That article DOES NOT apply to the VC.

Viral

#205

Viral said:

Wow, that's great. Now everyone can stop bitchin'! ;) I'm content with some other games at the moment though, Spore anyone?

BB_Sting

#206

BB_Sting said:

@x.SuperMario.x
Aparentlyyou've failed to see the merits of holographic storage from simpl;y reading the article. It applies to th vc because it is a storage medium which allows you to read plus write to it, much like the flash drive all ready inside of the wii(which we all know doesn't rovide nearly enough space. Here, mabe this will clarify things for you. http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/Could_Holography_Cure_Nintendo&_039;s_Storage_Space_Blues_13579_5386_0.htm

AlexSays

#207

AlexSays said:

Nope, I can read just fine.
Nintendo is "looking into" holographic storage.
Unfortunately, these things don't happen overnight. By the time Nintendo developed, and shipped a holographic storage solution, it'd be towards the end of the Wii's life cycle.

Add to that, the extreme cost of holographic storage, and all indications point to this as being something considered for the next Nintendo console.

But I could see how you can relate the article to the VC, when Nintendo said NOTHING about the VC.
I'd also suggest reading the comments under the GoNintendo article. You'll see nobody expects this to happen anytime soon.

So back to your original point, I'd look somewhere else for VC news if VC-R decided to take tad-bits of info, and turn them into gigantic rumors. Besides, that's IGN's job.

___________

@ Kultist- Yeah, I kinda knew.
But I wanted to address the whole "too many RPG's" thing, and I just happened to quote you.

Kultist

#208

Kultist said:

Out of the blue :
I have to agree this place is one of the most civilized gaming forum I've seen on the 'Net. I had completely abandoned having any kind of conversation on the 'Net for more thant 10 years after realizing it was a nest of forum trolls, StarCraft jerks looking for an easy win and other lowlife basement otakus. But thankfully not everyone is a troll or a jerk, and while sometimes things get out of hand, people here are mature enough to apologize/change subject/stfu when necessary.

@ x.SuperMario.x
You do realise I was trying to be funny on my last (and quite far) comment? I know my sense of humor is not a given, and I know I rely to much on sarcasm, but still, it was not meant to be taken seriously. Anyways, with the conscutive release of 2 great RPGs, I think RPG fans will have more than enought to sink their teeth into, and considering RPGs take some time to finish and require some kind of commitment (thing you don't need with shooters or platformers), RPG fan's hands are full right now. Which brings me...

Kinda on topic
I was starting to think we were due for some strategy game, I'm thinking along the lines of Warsong. Oh and I am the only one who whishes to see early NES adventure games like Deja Vu and Uninvited (hopefully with Wiimote support)?

Waxxy

#209

Waxxy said:

I'd like to see ANY game with Wiimote support! How long ago were we promised Duck Hunt? Come on, Nintendo, it can't be that hard to hack an on-screen crosshair into these ROMs, can it?

Adamant

#210

Adamant said:

@Kultist: "Oh and I am the only one who whishes to see early NES adventure games like Deja Vu and Uninvited (hopefully with Wiimote support)?"

The four NES graphic adventures released in English (the two you mentioned, as well as Shadowgate and Maniac Mansion) were all somewhat shoddy ports of original computer games. I'd much rather see them released in their original glory (or even an improved remake) on Wiiware or the DS. Point-and-click interfaces do not control well with a D-pad.

Actually, I'd love to see remakes of old computer titles on Wiiware. They won't make it to the VC anyway, so there's no problem there.

Ricardo91

#211

Ricardo91 said:

@Stuffgamer, #163.

Heck yeah I want Animal Crossing: City Folk! I just wish that Wiispeak was a headset and not some thing that sat on your TV, and that it had NES games included like the first one. But hey, it's like they say: "why get something for nothing when you can get it for 5+ bucks?"

@Corbie. I loved Soldier Blade, so that's great news! Here's hoping for a next week release!

Regarding the people who still find something to complain about this fine week, I actually get a kick out the same group of people (x.supermario.x, Rexy, and 1-3 other guys), nitpicking week after week about something no one else cares about. It really makes my day! Keep it up!

LOL, JUST KIDDING!!!!

But seriously, the pointless arguments amuse me quite muchly.

@Adamant. I too wish to see old computers games eventually make their way to Wiiware. What I'd give to see a new Chip's Challenge...

@Mike. Believe me, this site can do plenty of that too, though it's a bit less adverse than those sites.

I also agree about how civil this site is compared to other sites. While there are still may be a few "1nt3rweebz" on this site, but there's also many people who actually give Nintendo a chance and not break out in crap like "OMGZ Nintendo is t3h wrst company EVAR!!!!!" or "Ninty shuld go F*ck themselves rotfl." People seem to know each other better too.

Kultist

#212

Kultist said:

@ Adamant
You know, I think you're right, these kind of games would actually make great WiiWare, but I believe we can forget anything that has to do with LucasArt there. Copyright and stuff. But it would sure be a great idea to release all three ICOM games in a bundle. And while we're at it, why not go with your idea and release old PC classics. Some old DOS games are now public domain and would certainly be easier to port for some indie developers than to make a new game from scratch and unlike you, I think it would be feasible. Me wants X-COM/UFO on WiiWare! :D (Heck, if THAT happens, I'll have to resign and leave my girlfriend :P)

brooks83

#213

brooks83 said:

Kultist -
If they are going to release all three ICOM classics, then they should also release Deja Vu 2. It was never released on NES, but later came out on the Game Boy Color as a bundle of Deja Vu 1 and 2. And while they're at it, they should also release the sequal to Shadowgate, Beyond Shadowgate for the TG-CD. I've always wanted to play that. :)

AlexSays

#214

AlexSays said:

I actually get a kick out the same group of people (x.supermario.x, Rexy, and 1-3 other guys), who are bigger nerds than I am

Oh hell no.
"Loads shotgun"

timp29

#215

timp29 said:

I agree with rexy completely about the game releases being staggered by nintendo in order to maximise profits. Sure, some people might download 50 games at once and play them slowly over time, but most people only spend money when they have to, which is why I assume before any release (wii, vc, ds) nintendo ensures minimal competition for their own titles. Also, shorter games (read non RPG) would make more sense from a money perspective, as your average gamer is probably less likely to buy a new game when they're still totally immersed in another.

Remember people, if someone (read Rexy) states their opinions on here, YOU get to choose whether you agree with it or not. Thats freedom of thought. Personal attacks over someones opinion is unecessary... just say to yourself thats bs and I disagree... no need to start a war. Like this post... if you think its bollocks, thats cool, just don't call me a douche bag for having an opinion :P

BB_Sting

#216

BB_Sting said:

@Waxxy

"I'd like to see ANY game with Wiimote support! How long ago were we promised Duck Hunt? Come on, Nintendo, it can't be that hard to hack an on-screen cross-hair into these ROMs, can it?"

Nintendo doesn't want to make the good folks over at PETA angry by re-releasing a game where you murder poor little Innocent fowl in cold blood. Nintendo should just release a remake on Wii-ware where the ducks actually shoot back. That would keep the lawsuits(and pipe-bombs) at bay (^)

CanisWolfred

#218

CanisWolfred said:

@Kultist

Yeah, I'd like X-COM on Wiiware too. Until then, it's officially abandonware, so I can play it whenever I want to.

I'm still not sure whether to get SMRPG + Ys on my next VC purchase, or if I should hold off on them and get Landstalker and Beyond Oasis, if only to give Mr.Cheez my impressions. Considering I said I would get them weeks ago, I think I'll do just that.

Of course, he could just see Demon212's reviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nZ_x7o0PFU&feature=PlayList&p=8FD8AF9CF8C76A94&index=44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZa-hJ73Ec&feature=PlayList&p=8FD8AF9CF8C76A94&index=75

@Waxxy

The Wii remote uses completely different technology than the lightgun, it would require more than the addition of an on-screen crosshair to make the game playable. I suppose a wiiware version would be alright though.

Ricardo91

#219

Ricardo91 said:

@#217. Dude, That was cold. Really cold.

"Don't call me a Douchebag for having an opinion."

I have a feeling that someone here will. :P

Edit: Hey thanks Mickey! I asked about those 2 games over at the Landstalker page too, and Alphanerd told me that it depends on the perspective I prefer (isometric or top-down), so I'm starting to lean towards Beyond Oasis. But hey, I'd love to have 2 more verdicts to go by! :)

Edit 2: Heh heh, PETA. Those fools. They have no idea that the Wii is powered by the blood of puppies!

BB_Sting

#220

BB_Sting said:

x.SuperMario.x

"PETA has a good relationship with Nintendo.
Plus, you shoot birds in Wii Play. ;) "

That is just hilarious" You must have put PETA+Nintendo into your search bar right after reading my comment.

Andrew

#222

Andrew said:

I'm surprised how little time I have for videogames anymore now that I am in college. My Wii is back home in a closet somewhere, and my PS2 is only used here in the dorms for DVD's. Growing up sucks...

lordbowser

#223

lordbowser said:

@ Kultist #211
Deja Vu I wouldn't mind, but Uninvited creeps me the (insert naughty word that rhymes with duck here) out. Its kinda funny how I love to play modern Survival Horror games, yet an 8-bit game can creep me out so much I can't even sleep at night (Heck, I still have nightmares about that southern bell ghost).

CanisWolfred

#224

CanisWolfred said:

@x.SuperMario.x

Nintendo didn't have any involvement in that. Heck, it wasn't even PETA. it was their child-friendly spin-off group, peta2. Nintendo still has much to fear from the PETA menace. :P

@Mr.Cheez

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Beyond Oasis too, considering Isometric views make jumping puzzles hell, and there appears to be quite a few of those in Landstalker.

Objection

#225

Objection said:

On the topic of point-and-click adventure games being released on VC (unlikely) or remade on Wiiware (Slightly less unlikely) I think it;d be cool, but people like me who came into the genre from Phoenix Wright, Trace Memory, Professor Layton and Hotel Dusk will have trouble going back to older games. Its not really a genre that has aged well...that said, an attempt would be interesting.

classicmike

#226

classicmike said:

Hey guess who is back from football camp! (even though it felt more like hell on earth) Anyway, what do we have here, the release of super mario rpg and clu clu land? All right! This is great along with the other 2 releases from last week. Now all I need is for Mega Man 9, Super Mario Kart, kirby's dream land 3, and( I am still not sure if I should get this or not if it comes out) Mario Golf and I will be great! ( the reason i have so many exclamation points is that: 1. Super Mario Rpg is out and 2. I am finally back from football camp.)

mmarkster

#229

mmarkster said:

FINALLY! After 10+ years I can finally play SMRPG! I never owned it for the SNES. I found one at a GameStop one time for 30 dollars! But I'd rather wait until Nintendo re-releases it. And what do you know? It's on the VC for 8 dollars! My patience paid off!

Cally

#230

Cally said:

Hm, I'm still reading comments about Ys battle system. Time for another Ys report from this N00b.

Let me see if I can illustrate it as a sort of "auto-battle." Stats and equipment are compared with the opponent as you approach making it sort of a cross between an actionRPG and a traditional one (just quickly calculated, instead of cutting to a battle sequence). The final battle of Ys I, especially, really made me appreciate the effectiveness/uniqueness of the battle system. Plus, you can also throw fireballs liberally in Ys II. :) Beyond that, it's so well-designed for what it is--being a remake, it's highly polished with EASILY the most well-balanced difficulty I've ever seen in a game this age. The dungeons are just right, too, not to easy or too hard, and the ability to save anywhere (not just the Wii's temp-save) is a big plus.

"About the only downside to playing Super Mario RPG first is that it will make the visuals in Ys seem downright pitiful."

Yeah but the hand-drawn artwork is timeless. :) My favorite Turbo-16/Duo game by far, followed by Gate of Thunder. Ys Book I & II vs. SMRPG . . . hm. The former is new to me, the latter is near and dear to me ever since it came out in '96. Gosh . . . as amazing as it sounds, I might just be leaning toward Ys Book I & II (haven't QUITE finished book II). :O It certainly runs circles around what I've played of Landstalker, Beyond Oasis, Star Tropics, Neutopia . . .

As for the debates that come up around here (and in general), Corbie said it right. I tend not to mind outrageous statements or heated arguments so long as the one starting it doesn't pull the "Waah you're being MEAN" noise when he/she gets rebuked equally passionately--throwing stones from a glass house. Be prepared for a passionate/aggressive response (to the argument, not the person), if you know a statement is going to disagree with others' the way it does, then it's fair game and nobody's going to let it get under their skin--at least that's how it is for me, so even if I'm wrong about a detail or two I don't feel like a loser :P. Lots of us, myself included, have been there, picking battles and leaving others. ;)

Take it or leave it.

StarDust4Ever

#231

StarDust4Ever said:

Yay! SMRPG just knocked SMB3 off the top tier of the totem pole for the #1 slot!

This is NEWS, folks!!!

Rexy

#232

Rexy said:

Yeah, but you know it's only a matter of time before Earthbound/Majora's Mask/Yoshi's Island/whatever would do exactly the same thing.

Statistics mean nothing. If you like what you're playing, then that's fine enough. ;)

BB_Sting

#233

BB_Sting said:

They just lowered the price of the Xbox 360. Not sure what the new price is, but I heard that it's even lower than the wii. I've been holding off on buying my own wii because I've been waiting for a price drop+color variations. Here's hoping for a price drop to compete with the 360 :)

Alpo

#235

Alpo said:

I am deciding on buying a new tv to complement my Wii and for movies on my dvd player. Should I get a LCD or spend the extra money for a plasma. While the topic of the 360 is being brought up in last few comments. I have played all three systems and I have to say that the Wii was the funnest, and made me feel real connected to the games that I play on it. I believe fun factor is more important then really good graphics

Rawk_Hawk

#236

Rawk_Hawk said:

For old school gaming, I'll stick with Wii. But will the lower price 360 have the alot of storage capcity? Maybe it will have the same complaints about storage as the Wii. I guess time will tell

classicmike

#237

classicmike said:

Well, my brother is more of a 360 fanboy (he still plays the wii, though) while I am more of a wii fanboy (I also play the 360). To say which one is better is kind of confusing because the wii has motion control, classic gaming, and has free online (though it needs improvement) while the 360 has better graphics, better online (though it should be free or cost less), and better storage.
So to say which one is better is like saying which NFL team is the best, because every year, the teams usually change to become either better or worse from last year. (Also, I am a big football fan, Go Jets!)
Another thing, does anyone here own a PS3 because I didn't get one because I thought it was too expensive and if you have a wii and a 360, that is pretty much like having a PS3. So can someone tell me how much they like or dislike their PS3?

Rexy

#238

Rexy said:

My brother has a PS3; he has a 60GB model obtained near the beginning of the run. He's won over by the technology applied to it, mind you, but I still need some convincing with the otherwise unvaried game library and conflicting price tag, not to mention that Sony intend to throw backwards compatability with the PS2 out of the window out here.

It seems ok from the little I managed to play, but Sony need to get their heads in the game if they want to become a serious market leader. They seem to care less about their consumers than their competititors >.>

classicmike

#239

classicmike said:

@Rexy: That is some interesting infomation about the console (I am not being sarcastic). Too bad that the PS3 is doing poorly though (I'm still not getting the console). I wonder if because of the PS3's failure, that is the reason they still make games for the PS2? But anyway, I agree with you Rexy, Sony have to get their heads back in the game if they want to stay as a competitor with Nintendo and Microsoft.

BB_Sting

#240

BB_Sting said:

Well, the main reason to own a PS3 from a software standpoint is if you really like M rated games. I'm not really in to all the blood and gore and killing random prostitutes that the system provides so I tend to stick to milder games(although I thought Half-life was the bomb). Some might argue the Final Fantasy angle, but let's be honest here, Final Fantasy lost it's soul long ago when it's creator Hironobu Sakaguchi was axed from the company(without him square is now a rectangle) :)

classicmike

#241

classicmike said:

@ BB Sting: Is that the main reason why people should but a PS3? Honestly, I thought 360 had all of those good M rated games while the PS3 has all of the racing games.

Rexy

#242

Rexy said:

I'd rather see the PS3 to have more games based on real life events; I feel quite a fair chunk of its library does tend to consist of either shooters of some description, realistic racers, sports sims or GTA IV (and its follow-ups on the horizon). Like you, Sting, I couldn't see much that interested me in their current library for the price that's going now, in spite of the so-called "incredible bells and whistles".

Concerning the way of PS2 games still being common place, I see it namely because that since the PS3 is STILL the most expensive game machine on the market right now, some corporations may get some better profit on the Sony side by investing for PS2 releases for a little while. But seriously, I'd be laughing my skin off if the PS2 somehow outlasts the PS3 :p

Saint_Nick

#244

Saint_Nick said:

It's a funny thing but the Xbox has simply nabbed ever good exclusive game. Most games that people wish were PS3 only titles have jumped ship to join the flock over in Microsofts pond.

I supported sony with both there first consoles. On top of that, I had been a loyal costumer with all sony products (cd players, amps, tvs, etc). After both the ps and ps2 broke, several other electronic mishaps later, I have called it quits with that company forever. Plus, skimping out on the emotion chip was just lame. I have no great love for MS, I just prefer them to Sony.

But I will always love Nintendo ;)

Alpo

#245

Alpo said:

I own a PS3 along with a Wii. I think that the PS3 has some good games, and the motion control with Heavenly Sword is pretty bad ass. What I have aganist the PS3 and Xbox 360 is that the games feel really short. Oblivion is a long game though, but that is the only exception I have seen. I might be wrong, but it is just my opinion.

BB_Sting

#246

BB_Sting said:

@classicmike

@ BB Sting: Is that the main reason why people should but a PS3? Honestly, I thought 360 had all of those good M rated games while the PS3 has all of the racing games.

I was just comparing the PS3 to the Wii. The 360 has a fair amount of American made rpgs from the likes of Bioware, Obsidian etc., that delve into somewhat more realistic themes than most Japanese rpgs that you'll find on a Sony platform. Jade Empire 2 anyone.

@Saint Nick

"It's a funny thing but the Xbox has simply nabbed ever good exclusive game. Most games that people wish were PS3 only titles have jumped ship to join the flock over in Microsofts pond."

The Xbox attracts a lot of developers that have traditionally been known for pc games. Apparently, developing for the 360 is similar to developing for Vista so it's only natural that would be the case.

Stuffgamer1

#247

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Tony: The $200 Xbox 360 has half the memory of a Wii, and it's on an external memory card. Since Xbox 360 downloadable games are so much bigger than Wii's you'd have to be crazy to buy an Arcade unit with any plans to go online at all. But for what it gets you, if you're considering a 360, the now $300 model is a great value with a 60gig hard drive, headset, and better cables. The Arcade will seem like a great deal (and perhaps it is) to any family with no plans to go online whatsoever. That means nobody on this website should ever buy one.

@everybody talking about PS3: I think it's a good system. It needs more exclusive games, but that's a common problem lately. If they ever release their software emulator for PS2 games, I would encourage everyone with money to get one. I, for one, have all three current systems (anyone else here have all three? Just curious), but that's just because I have money to burn and want the ability to play what exclusives each platform offers. My PS3 is actually primarily a DVD player right now as I concentrate on playing SMRPG, Mario Super Sluggers, and Castle Crashers (Xbox Live Arcade game). I also play PS2 games on it more than PS3 games (up converts for my HDTV). That's why I made a point to get the Metal Gear bundle system before it was discontinued. That was before I knew about the emulator situation. Now it's anybody's guess what will really happen, though credible sources say the emulator should be out by year's end.

AlexSays

#248

AlexSays said:

Not a big fan of Sony this generation.
It seems as if they make promises, while Microsoft actually delivers.

MarkyVigoroth

#249

MarkyVigoroth said:

(We are SO getting out of topic, but...)

I would rather wait for the PS3, since I am waiting for SquareEnix to release those super-games they are developing. What I read about the PS3 impressed me, yet I should wait some time. (By the way, I am getting the more complete version of the 80GB version! I do not like the idea of a stripped down console, even though it does make it cheaper.)

At VC, while SMRPG is #1, RockMan is #3, and Ys 1&2 is around #8.

BB_Sting

#250

BB_Sting said:

@ MarkyVigoroth "I would rather wait for the PS3, since I am waiting for SquareEnix to release those super-games they are developing."

The only super game that Square should be developing is a sequel to Chrono Cross which was the sequel to Chrono Trigger. Other than that I have only mediocre interest. Oh, and they should bring back some of the old Enix franchises.

#251

said:

The PS3 is a much better console than the 360. The latter has far too many technical issues to even bother with. On top of that, it is not compatible with "some" XBOX games, and you have to pay for online services.

The PS3 has its faults, but the XBOX 360 is one big headache. Definitely not worth the 400, or even 200 dollar price tag.

I already beat Super Mario RPG (Smithy, Culex, Jinx, everything). I sat down and had some red vines while I played it too. It was really fun.

Bendover83

#252

Bendover83 said:

I have a PS3 and Wii also. I have the older 60 gig PS3 which I upgraded a few months ago and put a 250GB in it. PS3 does really need more exclusives and RPG's and little less shooters and racing games. Heavenly Sword is amazing. MGS4 is the best in the series IMO, then MGS1 as a close first. Uncharted is like Tomb Raider but better. I'm waiting for FFXIII and God of War 3. No 360 for me, I don't want to pay Microsoft for a console that they haven't fixed yet. "ya, I like to pay $400 for that one red ring of death please." ha. Anyway, my first current gen system is the Wii, I was one those peeps waiting in line for midnight release.

AlexSays

#253

AlexSays said:

This is a knee-slapper, you guys.
Everybody's only complaint is the hardware failure, which has been greatly reduced, and is covered by an extensive warranty.

I don't even own a 360, but it's easy to see nobody on here has a legitimate argument against it.

timp29

#254

timp29 said:

I would be tempted to get a ps3... but only if it had backwards compatibility. I want to play shadow of the collosus one day. Also, the blue ray features interest me... but a 360 at that price?? very tempting

CanisWolfred

#255

CanisWolfred said:

@Stuffgamer1

The 80 gig uses a software emulator, though it's only able to fully emulate 70%+ PS2 games, and since the Ratchet & Clank series is part of that 30%, I already have a reason to keep my PS2. Not to mention the new 80 gigs won't even have PS2 b/c, so getting your hands on a more "complete" PS3 may not be so easy soon. As for the games, personally I think their PSN exclusives are their most attractive offering, although not as attractive as XBLA and VC. They still have good games( anybody with a PS3, I suggest you check out the Pixeljunk series, it looks+sounds fantastic!), it's just that many of them( or at least all the ones I'm interested in) seem like retail games, only even shorter, while on XBLA most of them resemble modern versions of old arcade games, and all the VC games are retail games, just really old. As for the retail ones, I'm sure it'll pick up, they'll get more exclusives eventually, but as of right now I'm not really impressed. There's nothing that makes me want a PS3 to play that game, and there really isn't anything coming up that interests me either. Xbox 360 has more games I'm interested in, but pricing and certain technical limitations aren't exactly sealing the deal either. Right now I'm good enough with my Wii.

@x.SuperMario.x

Yeah, and you can get a cooler to reduce it even more. I don't really even think about the RROD whenever I contemplate getting a 360 anymore.

Before I get back on topic, I'd just like to mention that the day after I say that X-COM is officially abandonware, it pops up on Steam, so now the one I got free is officially contraband. I never even got a chance to play it either. :P

Back on topic: I'm definitely having fun with SMRPG, but I can't exactly call it my favorite. It just feels like it's missing that extra bit of charm, and I'm not exactly keen on the fact that sometimes pressing the button will cause almost twice the regular damage, and other times there's barely any increase at all. It's still one of the most enjoyable RPGs I've ever played, but I was kind of expecting a little more( though not much). At the very least it's my least favorite Mario RPG in the series, if only because it doesn't quite feel like a Mario RPG as I know it.

#256

said:

Just because you can reduce the chances of 360 failure, doesn't mean you can be 100% sure it won't happen anyways. And as far as the warranty, why even waste the time. Don't buy that piece of junk, Microsoft is a terrible company. They can't seem to do a thing right.

I've had a PS3 for some time now, as well as a Wii. I have never had a single issue. But the 360 I got, within a month, it did the ring of death thing. Very disappointing considering how much I paid for it.

General assessments just don't beat experience. You can never take the word of someone else, not unless you want to be completely sure of something.

And another thing. All three consoles have terrible games out for them. The XBOX, PS2, and Gamecube were all awesome. They focus too much on making beautiful graphics, and not enough on the mechanics.

Anyways, I hadn't heard about the rings of death until after mine broke down. I just threw that thing out, and washed my hands of the whole thing.

AlexSays

#257

AlexSays said:

Don't buy that piece of junk, Microsoft is a terrible company.

Yeahp, credibility destroyed.
Your best bet would be to start a new account, and try again.

#258

said:

Microsoft is an awful entity. I feel bad for anyone who gets stuck with anything they put out. The best hardware developer is Nintendo, hands down. Before them, is Sega, who sort of threw in the towel.

CanisWolfred

#259

CanisWolfred said:

Didn't the original Xbox have problems too? If so you have to admit that it's not a good track record for a company to have.

In any case, I don't think it would be a good idea for this thread to devolve into a console war, so I'm going to try a feable attempt to change the subject: Anybody notice that Clu Clu Land has been more or less ignored for most of this thread? It looks like a fun game to me, like Pac-Man, but better. Did anybody get that game? If so, how was it?

@Badknux

You really aren't helping yourself.

AlexSays

#260

AlexSays said:

I feel bad for anyone who gets stuck with anything they put out.

So you feel bad for people who enjoy Microsoft products on a regular basis?
Oh my. I feel bad for you.

#261

said:

Honestly, I'm not a hardware genius. I'm just speaking from experience. Everything I get that comes from Microsoft fails on me. As a result, I despise them. Case closed.

#262

said:

@ Mickeymac

I know I look like an idiot. But its hard for me to argue a topic I know next to nothing about. As I said above, I am speaking from experience.

AlexSays

#263

AlexSays said:

Honestly, I'm not a hardware genius.
Well at least you're honest.
But I figured as much. ;)

#264

said:

Despite my revelation x.SuperMario.x, I still think the 360 is a pieace of junk. And that isn't subject to change.

classicmike

#265

classicmike said:

@ Rexy: That would be funny if the PS2 outlasts the PS3, but at the same time, it is believable because for some reason, the PS2 fells more like a gaming console to me than the PS3 does (I do not own a PS3).
@ MarkyVigoroth: Get used to getting out of topic here, it happens a lot for some reason.
@ Badknux: Personally, I agree with you, even though I like the 360 over the PS3, I think that all games from last generation of your console should be playable on your current generation console, I also think that online should be free (Even though 360 has the best online and I think Bill Gates has enough freakin' money), and that you should work out the kinks or problems of your console before shipping them out to people hopping that it would correctly, or it is just another scam for Bill Gates to get more money.

AlexSays

#267

AlexSays said:

Okay, everybody. It's time to clear the air.

1.) 360 has more backwards compatibility than the PS3.
2.) 360 online is free. Playing people online is not. But you get what you pay for, which is the PSN is free. I'd gladly pay $50 a year if Nintendo had a far superior online service.
3.) Bill Gates has absolutely NOTHING to do with charging for XBL.

Hope this clears some confusion.

classicmike

#268

classicmike said:

@ BadKnux: Your right, the original Xbox, PS2, and the Gamcube did have better games to play, even though I'm sure some great games would be coming out for the Wii, 360, and the PS3 before their lifespan ends.

classicmike

#269

classicmike said:

@ Badknux: Your Welcome.
@ x.SuperMario.x: So Bill Gates doesn't make the decisions? I guess that is because he is to busy taking money baths and swimming in money pools.

#270

said:

That's true classicmike, but the sheer number of games between the last generation consoles that are awesome is outstanding. It was like the Golden Age of gaming, or something. Kinda wish we still lived back in that time. I'll admit that there are some good games now, and the "downloading old games" concept is great. But still.

CanisWolfred

#271

CanisWolfred said:

@classicmike

They're working on it, it uses a software emulator( I think) and they have to work things out for each individual game, and it gets updated every so often. At the moment, the 360 is compatible with every Xbox 1 game I want except for Otogi, so I'd say they're doing alright there. You're right about that they should've ironed out the bugs though, especially after the system has been out so long, instead of these quick fixes that don't completely mediate the problem. I don't really want to get into the whole "free Live" thing, though I will say that to me, it's a luxury fee.

@Badknux

That is sad, yet understandable. Personally I haven't really had much of a problem with many of the Microsoft products that I own. I guess some people are luckier than others.

AlexSays

#272

AlexSays said:

So Bill Gates doesn't make the decisions?

Yeahp, you're 100% right.
Now you're seeing things clearly.

classicmike

#273

classicmike said:

@ Badknux: Yeah, I missed those old times (Remenbering all the fun games I played on Xbox, Gamecube and PS2 while writing this), but at least the PS2 is still having games made for it. Too bad it won't last much longer, though.

#274

said:

If I had created a console as big as the 360, I wouldn't rush it to the stores early because I wanted to beat Sony on sales. Sony waited, and they paid for it, but their console has so much potential. Meanwhile, Microsoft has to constantly re-release the 360, fixing all these bugs that keep popping up. Sounds like a big waste of cash.

I know how you feel classicmike. I love the gamecube and PS2, and the XBOX was great also.

Oh, and I wanted to ask you Mickeymac, what is your icon supposed to be? A ninja fox or something? It's neat.

classicmike

#275

classicmike said:

@ x.SuperMario.x: I wonder who is taking the money baths then?
@ Mickeymac: True, I doubt Xbox Live would become free, but it would be better to at least lower the price of the online service.

AlexSays

#276

AlexSays said:

Nope, they should NOT lower the price of XBL.
It's good right where it's at.

And Bill Gates isn't the only one at Microsoft making money.
But I love how people think every dime given to Microsoft goes straight to Bill's pocket.

CanisWolfred

#278

CanisWolfred said:

@classicmike

Well, at least it isn't a monthly thing.

@Badknux

A ninja Cat, actually. I pulled it from a VG Cats strip when I couldn't find any good Shinobi pics to use as my avatar. I was thinking of changing it now that Dazza changed his( he had the only good one that would look good in these tiny boxes), but I've grown too accustomed to the one I already have. Plus it combines two of my favorite things: Ninjas and cats!

Also, Live is $50 a year.

And last generation is also my personal favorite.

#280

said:

A ninja cat huh? Pretty cool.

I guess fifty dollars a year isn't so bad.

classicmike

#281

classicmike said:

@ Mickeymac: Well it depends on what type of card you by, there is the 1 month, the 3 month, or the 1 year card.

CanisWolfred

#286

CanisWolfred said:

@Mr. Cheez

Yeah, especially if it means that Thunder Force VI and TOCA 3 will get localized to the US!

classicmike

#287

classicmike said:

@ Mickeymac: Yeah, Ihave no real reason to get that either.
@ Mr. Cheez: The last gen is the best.

CanisWolfred

#288

CanisWolfred said:

Waitwaitwaitwaitwait!!! $200 dollars?!?!?! That, with a 120 gig bought separately will only cost $380!! Okay, I was intrigued when they released the 60 gig, but this I gotta get! ...Maybe I'll stick with getting a 60 gig, since 120 gigs may be too much for me, but still, it is certainly something I can advocate for.

Oh, and if you get an Arcade, you can get a special disk to make your console backwards-compatible if you got a hard drive.

Edit: The Price of the Elite also went down, and now it is tempting!

VirtualConsoleGuest

#289

VirtualConsoleGuest said:

Hi,
I don't really want to join the line of comments that are going right now, but isn't this website about Nintendo games? Why were/are you guys so near slinging callous remarks over non-Nintendo systems, and here?

And at comment #225.: "I'm surprised how little time I have for videogames anymore now that I am in college. My Wii is back home in a closet somewhere, and my PS2 is only used here in the dorms for DVD's. Growing up sucks..."

Wow, that’s sad--I vow to never let anything of the sort happen to me.

But, don’t give in! Fight the power—reshuffle your priorities—play those videogames until your eyes glaze over—but don’t grow up until you can’t go back.
Just kidding, mostly…..

About this news article: I’m definitely thinking about getting Mario RPG, but I’ll need points first. Is the excitement behind that game true or overblown, from an unbiased player’s viewpoint?

Thanks.

CanisWolfred

#290

CanisWolfred said:

@VirtualConsoleGuest

Sorry, you're right, I'm not too sure how things got this way, though I can certaintly say I didn't help.

As for SMRPG, it depends on what you're expecting. It's a fun, simple-yet-engaging RPG with plenty of humor. If that sounds like your thing, then I suggest you check it out.

And to make my previous comment seem even the slightest bit relevent, with all those price cuts, Nintendo's going to have to do something. I suspect a reduced price Wii with a WiiMotion Plus packed in!

AlexSays

#291

AlexSays said:

Why would Nintendo need to reduce the price of something they can't keep on store shelves?
Knowledge is power!

Isn't this website about Nintendo games?

100% wrong. This site is about Nintendo's downloadable service.
Other consoles have downloadable services, which opens the window for comparisons.

Besides, if everyone stayed on topic, this site would only be half as fun. Same goes for EVERY other website with registered members.

Added: You're wrong more ways than one. lol
Most of the games on the VC aren't even Nintendo games.

VirtualConsoleGuest

#292

VirtualConsoleGuest said:

x.SuperMario.x ,

I see what you mean. That's true. I just noticed everyone was starting to talk about the other actual systems, and decided to say something. I'm just tired of people gtting into fights over videogame stuff and whatnot.

I think you're a little too confrontational, though.

Goodnight.

#293

said:

x.SuperMario.x isn't confrontational, he's just opinionated. Opinionated people come off as confrontational, but they just like to argue, to the point where they get so mad they attack others. I do that a lot.

@ VirtualConsoleGuest, you didn't go to bed. You're probably checking this site right now to see if anyone replied to your post. Well here it is.

Stuffgamer1

#294

Stuffgamer1 said:

I was wondering upon my return to the site how so many posts were added in such a short time. I didn't expect a fight like that to erupt over consoles.

@Mickeymac way back at post #258: I agree with most of what you said. Only thing is a bit nitpicky: The old 80gig PS3 is 80% BC, not 70%. It was 70% at launch, but gained ground with a couple of updates. I hate the way it doesn't play Ratchet very well, but it does a better job overall of running the games I want to play than my Xbox 360 does. But, of course, my Wii is better at that still. Hooray for something Nintendo inarguably did right!

Mike1

#295

Mike1 said:

Man, I've never seen so many comments. I guess a great release does that. Has a topic ever hit 300?

timp29

#296

timp29 said:

Yeah, the europe SMRPG release news topic hit 300 (as will the NA SMRPG news topic), but this news topic hasn't been about smrpg since like post 260 lol.

#297

said:

Exactly timp29. Nobody is actually talking about SMRPG. But I will! I love that game, I almost cried when I saw it up Monday morning. And every time I see it I smile knowing I don't have to wait for it anymore.

@ Mike, this topic just did.

CanisWolfred

#298

CanisWolfred said:

@Stuffgamer1

Well, it said 70% percent on their site, so I assumed they weren't wrong. You're right about the Wii's backwards compatibility though, it's definitely the best! I've yet to run into a single hiccup that didn't come up on the Gamecube! Too bad I just end up using my Gamecube to play GCN games.

@Mike

Yes, the EU update featuring SMRPG did a while ago. Then some of the spammed comments got deleted. Then it hit 300 again.

AlexSays

#299

AlexSays said:

x.SuperMario.x isn't confrontational, he's just opinionated.

Someone finally gets me! :p
That was a great post though, you were right about me and that other guy.

timp29

#301

timp29 said:

Hahah thats true... the europe SMRPG thread is the only thread to have ever hit 300 twice!

Stuffgamer1

#302

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Mickeymac: If you spend enough time getting to know how Sony works (as I've wasted a good many hours doing over the past two months), you'll learn not to take ANYTHING they say at face value. You'll also learn that they suck at updating their web site, as the BC search page still makes no effort to differentiate between 80gig units. You can just search to see if a game works on a 60gig or an 80gig. That's not exactly helping my task of telling people that the new 80gig doesn't play PS2 games, now is it?

Back on topic, I've been playing a fair bit of SMRPG lately. Nothing like Badknux did, but good progress none the less. I just beat Johnny. 5 stars down, but the next two will add up to almost half the game! Weird design if you ask me, but it doesn't really matter. Great game, anyway.

Bendover83

#303

Bendover83 said:

If no one spoke what's on their mind here, then why even have an option to comment. It's pretty interesting reading what anyone has to say.
@Mickeymac #262: I've played Clu Clu way back on its original cartridge and I had fun with it for awhile. At the twelth level I got frustrated and stopped playing it. It was a deffinent challenge for me when I was young. Now, I don't think I would pay $5 for it, but if ya like hard puzzle type games than ya should give it a go.

@classicmike #272: Bill Gates reminds me of Uncle Scrooge. I can see Bill swimming in a money vault. He may not get everything from Microsoft, but he is filthy rich from making it what it is today.
I haven't had any problems with my current gen systems(Wii & PS3). Sure Microsoft has improved the 360 to not brick as much, but it still has that possibility. I just can't buy a system that has that slight chance of messing up. Doesn't that extended warranty tell people, "Warning, if system is handled incorrectly or is on for a certain amount of time the system will malfunction."

I just knew SMRPG was going to take this US post over 300, especially after the EU SMRPG post. Sweet!

BB_Sting

#304

BB_Sting said:

Does anyone know any of the codes that are in SMRPG. I remember there being a few.

@Bendover83 "Bill Gates reminds me of Uncle Scrooge. I can see Bill swimming in a money vault. He may not get everything from Microsoft, but he is filthy rich from making it what it is today."

Bill gates is to smart to keep his money horded away in a money bin/vault. He keeps it in banks where it can actually earn interest. :)

Stuffgamer1

#305

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Bendover83: This may sound incredibly nitpicky, but you are aware that EVERY system has at least a SLIGHT chance of messing up? And ANY system will break if handled incorrectly. Take dropping it down a flight of stairs, for example. Whoops, your system's dead! Still, I know what you meant to say. This is mostly one of my nitpick moments with attempts at humor for good measure.

@BB Sting: Dude, every time I come to this site (several times a day) yesterday and today, your avatar's different! It's getting very confusing, so please just pick one already (personally, I liked your old one best, but ANY stability would be appreciated)!

VirtualConsoleGuest

#306

VirtualConsoleGuest said:

Hi,

Gee, folks. I had a busy day yesterday, and I did, in fact, go to bed, as shocking as that may be.

But I got a Wii Points card, and am getting Super Mario RPG—I’m believing that it will be as cool as it is implied to be. Does anything else come highly recommended, so I may keep it in mind?

Have a nice day.

Ricardo91

#307

Ricardo91 said:

Awwww, Is this thread terminating already? I thought we could bring this baby up to 350!

@VirtualConsoleGuest. You should see the kinds of things these threads can trail off to. There's an ongoing discussion on a Wiiware World article right now about Chili's lol. :D

"Did the original Xbox have problems too?"

Yes. It was poorly designed and had a chunky, crappy controller.

about Xbox live's $50-a-year fee: As pricey as it sounds, the Xbox live subscription costs sounds like It'd be worth every penny IMO. Microsoft has the most thriving online community of any console, hands down. And just think about what you can get: some of the best digitally distributed games out there (Castle Crashers, Braid, and Rez HD to name but a few.), a massive online gamng community, and Netflix. Freakin' Netflix!

But since I don't have 360 yet, and thus can't explain anything else it has to offer, I can't make my argument any more convincing than that. It's probably not very convincing at all. :P

Edit: "Does anything else come highly recommended?"

Oh sure, there's tons of great games on the Virtual Console right now. It would take too long for me to list off recommendations, so check out the reviews on this site and see for yourself! :)

PHANTOM93

#308

PHANTOM93 said:

HOLY CHEESECAKE BATMAN LOOK AT ALL THE COMMENTS!!

If SMRPG can hit 300 just imagine how many comments there's going to be when Earthbound comes out :-P

(it might very well be the event that breaks the internet :-P)

Rawk_Hawk

#309

Rawk_Hawk said:

"Did the original Xbox have problems too?"
"Yes. It was poorly designed and had a chunky, crappy controller."

The orginal Xbox controller was orginally desgined for Andre the Giant. At least your hands have to be that big to use it

Bendover83

#310

Bendover83 said:

@Tony #312: What's with that controller anyway, I just about had to get another person to use one side of the controller while I used the other. O, it also needed like five more buttons. ha

@BBSting #307: Quit messing with my convoluted dreams. If he's rich enough why not. He has so much money he could have an army of gold robots take down his worst enemies. ha.
Stuffgamer1 is right, you change your avatar way to much. It's like, "Well its a new day, time to change into a new avatar." It's hard to choose one I know, that's why I don't have one yet. There's just too many awsome pics out there.

@Stuffgamer1 #308: "Almost" anything could break if mishandled incorrectly. I don't mind that u nitpicked. At least you knew what I meant. I guess it could be hard to pick up on sarcasm in here. For future reference maybe I should say "ha" or "lol" after every sarcasm or exaggeration quote.

So back to SMRPG. Has anyone fought and beatin that final fantasy IV boss that's in Monstro town? Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who actually hasn't killed him. I've tried numerous amounts of times and I've gotten nowhere.

Ricardo91

#311

Ricardo91 said:

@Tony. Whoa, I didn't realize that was you at first. I've grown so accustomed to the Dragon's Lair avatar, and then you changed it, it was weird. I guess Stuffgamer was right. Avatar change-ups on this site ARE disorienting. :P

Funny for me to say that, though, as I changed mine again too. Heh heh.

CanisWolfred

#312

CanisWolfred said:

@Mr. Cheez

Yes, and I'd say it's your best one yet! I have no idea what it is, but it's very nice to look at.

@Bendover83

Thank you, I'll be adding Clu Clu Land to my list.

Cally

#313

Cally said:

"So back to SMRPG. Has anyone fought and beatin that final fantasy IV boss that's in Monstro town? Edit: I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who actually hasn't killed him. I've tried numerous amounts of times and I've gotten nowhere."

I did. ;) Not exactly the toughest extra boss in an RPG. I cannot remember a strategy for it or anything after all this time.

Ricardo91

#314

Ricardo91 said:

@Mickeymac. It's Captain Falcon riding the Dragoon. I noticed that people on this site show their love of practically every Nintendo character, but not one had a pic of good ol' Captain F., so... There ya go. I went with this one because it looked particularly cool. I know, it doesn't really show up well. :P

carson

#315

carson said:

there is no doubt this is the best game ever on the SNES. Ive been playing it nonstop for so long. its just a great fun game

Digiki

#316

Digiki said:

@carson
I strongly disagree, that is all

@ Mr. Cheez
Yep good ol' Captain Falcon, even though he's the worst character in brawl I still main him and even win most matches that arn't against the ridiculously overpowered Snake and Metaknight ( friendly challenge going out to anyone interested)

Anways I got SMRPG monday played for a few hours that day and havn't turned on my Wii since, which is ironic as I have great games to play, but cutting my gaming hours back is for the better as I started grade 11 on Tuesday

Bendover83

#317

Bendover83 said:

@Mickeymac #315: No prob. For an old game its alright, it reminds me of all of those other puzzle-arcade type of NES games.

@cally #316:"Not exactly the toughest extra boss in an RPG. I cannot remember a strategy for it or anything after all this time."
Back then SMRPG was one the first rpg's for me, and I never got through that FF boss. I didn't own the game, so I rented it until I beat it and most of the side quests except that one. Than after the SNES fadded out I really wanted to play it again for the longest time. About eight years later I got the emulator and played through it a bunch but still never gone through that boss. Now since I actually own it, it will be done. phew.
I've played a few rpg's before than but this game really jump started my love for rpg's. My very first rpg I think was FF1. Back then on NES I mainly played platform/adventure games.

Stuffgamer1

#318

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Bendover83: Ah, Culex. He's really not that hard, it's all about preparation. I hope you aren't trying to beat him right after reaching Monstro Town, because there's NO WAY you're ready for him if you are. You need to get the Lazy Shell (somewhat complicated, you'd best check Gamefaqs.com), equip someone with the Safety Ring (that thing's invaluable!), and have at least one or two Rock Candies, and maybe the Star Egg (an even more amazingly complicated-to-get item. I've never done it yet, but plan to in coming days. Check Gamesfaqs for that, too). With the Lazy Shell, Toadstool will be practically invincible, so you can just wait the battle out until the crystals and/or Culex run out of FP. Then you revive your buddies (who probably died really early; I recommend Bowser rounding out the group) and kick butt! Hope all that helps.

Will

#319

Will said:

"Yep good ol' Captain Falcon, even though he's the worst character in brawl I still main him and even win most matches that arn't against the ridiculously overpowered Snake and Metaknight ( friendly challenge going out to anyone interested)"

What? People are still playing Brawl? I played it for a week when I got it. Now it gathers dust. I though it was terrible :/

Bendover83

#320

Bendover83 said:

@Stuffgamer1 #321: I played him only a few times after getting to monstro town, I know not to ever do that again. I guess when I tried everytime I didn't prepare well enough, eventhough I was strong enough to beat the game and had rock candies. thx.

#321

said:

Two things Will:

1. Captain Falcon is not the worst character in Brawl. Lucas and Ness have terrible recovery moves, Dedede is too slow, and Snake's moves might be powerful, but they take forever to pull off. But the worst character hands down is Jigglypuff. With Kirby, why waste a space with her (or him) of all their characters?

2. Yes, people still play Brawl. Hate to break it to you, but its an awesome game. It is clearly the best in the series.

Will

#323

Will said:

@Badknux. Dont get me wrong, I like the Smash Bros series, I played the hell out of melee, loved it. But SSBB was just awful for me :( That freakin sub space rubbish just broke my heart, the characters are just not designed to be played like in a platformer. For me it was an endless holding of right until I got to the next section where I did exactly the same thing again. Last thing I did was unlock Sonic, he controlled like a dingus so I quit. I was disgusted, I had looked forward to that game for so long.

Stuffgamer1

#324

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Will: I find it hilarious that last I read from you about Brawl, you were moaning about how Europe didn't have it yet, and now you just say you hate it. All that waiting for nothing, eh? I don't really mean to be mean about it, but I laughed pretty loud when I read that.

Also, anybody who doens't agree that the Ice Climbers are the worst Smash character is insane. I hated them in Melee, and was pissed to see that they returned in Brawl. Fortunately, there's plenty of great characters to use instead. My favs, as if anyone cared, include Wario, Olimar, Link, Snake, Luigi, Ness, Peach, and more. I'm versitile. Just not wtih Ice Climbers. I also prefer Gannondorf to Captain Falcon.

I played some Brawl earlier tonight, after a long session of SMRPG. Brawl will never die (at least until another Smash comes out), and only fools liked it but traded their copies because they were "done with it." Not particularly meaning to offend anyone here who may have done so, but that's how I feel about the game.

Bendover83

#325

Bendover83 said:

I play it from time to time. I still don't have all the stickers (662) & trophies (541). I've done that one trick with stickers, where you go to create a stage put sandbag on high and have sandbag against a wall. Then keep pummeling it and just keep doing that since more come if ya use a conveyer belt. I agree Stuffgamer1, Ice Climbers are bad, also Jigglypuff. My favs are Link, Sonic, Falco, Snake, Bowser, Luigi, and Samus.

Will

#326

Will said:

@Stuffgamer1. Aye, it really was all that waiting for nothing. A big fat nothing :(
For sale: one copy of SSBB, $0.10c or nearest offer. In good condition save for being stomped on a few times. But it deserved it.

Alpo

#327

Alpo said:

I use Link most of the time when I play SSBB. Ganondorf I think has the coolest looking special smash in the game. I think the game Rygar that comes out in December will be pretty bad ass.

#328

said:

I agree with you Stuffgamer1, the Ice Climbers are terrible, horrible, awful things. I was thinking though that it would be neat if they made a Nintendo DS Super Smash Bros.

The characters could all be heroes of each franchise: Mario and Luigi (because they come in a pair), Kirby, Pikachu, Ike, Link, Samus, Captain Falcon, DK, Fox, Ness, Pit, and Yoshi. Also, Geno should be a special guest character. The modes they should have include: Classic, Adventure, All-Star, and Event. Of course they could have a multiplayer mode, and an online feature. The adventure mode should also have lots of boss fights, like against Porky, Bowser, Ganondorf, Black Shadow, and others.

I think it would be very neat, but only if they worked very hard on it to ensure it had the same feel as the first Super Smash Bros. The newer ones feel too sloppy. Despite this, the new games are awesome (as I stated above).

BB_Sting

#329

BB_Sting said:

@Stuffgamer1
"Dude, every time I come to this site (several times a day) yesterday and today, your avatar's different! It's getting very confusing, so please just pick one already (personally, I liked your old one best, but ANY stability would be appreciated)!"

You mean this one.

classicmike

#330

classicmike said:

@ badknux: I don't understand why there isn't a Super Smash Bros. game for the DS yet either?
Wouldn't they know that people would want 2 play SSB on the go?

Gitaroo_Dude

#331

Gitaroo_Dude said:

Don't worry Wiil, you're not alone.

My friends and I got together at one of their dorms the night it came out to play it.

We pretty much played 4 rounds before we turned it off and they went back to Melee/original and I just went back to playing my DS.

AlexSays

#332

AlexSays said:

Smash Bros. on the DS?
That's a terrible idea.

Why is it a terrible idea? For the same reason Nintendo doesn't put a traditional Pokemon game on the Wii.
Smash Bros. sells consoles, Pokemon sells handhelds.
If Nintendo put every franchise on the Wii and DS, there'd be no reason to buy both.

Cocoa_Man5

#333

Cocoa_Man5 said:

on a side note for next monday's releases we are getting cho aniki and final soldier, not bad i think.

PHANTOM93

#334

PHANTOM93 said:

Well Nintendo doesn't necessarily have to make a brand new Smash Bros. game for the DS. They could always remake the N64 original and add a few extra things sorta like what they did with Super Mario 64 DS.

Edit: I'm not saying that Nintendo should do that, I'm just saying that they have the ability to do it.

classicmike

#335

classicmike said:

@ Phantom93: I agree with you. They should at least remake the original Super Smash Bros. That would keep me occupied on my DS for a while.
@ x.SuperMario.x: Wasn't Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness the closest to being like an original pokemon game for the gamecube?

PHANTOM93

#336

PHANTOM93 said:

@ classicmike

If they did remake it for the DS I would like Nintendo to add online multiplayer and a few more characters (possibly Zelda/Sheik, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser, Marth, and oh why not.... Mr. Resetti :-P)

classicmike

#337

classicmike said:

@ PHANTOM93: Yeah I wish that they would do that but try to get a few new 3rd party characters along into the game

#338

said:

Sorry x.SuperMario.x, but a Super Smash Bros DS would be a wonderful thing. The capabilities on the console would make for a perfect port of the original title, which was the cleanest of the bunch. But its also advanced enough to add a little extra content, namely the other characters and events. I would buy it, and classicmike would buy it. Thats two sales already.

classicmike

#339

classicmike said:

@ badknux: Your right, I would buy the game is they came out with one. I'm also sure many other people would also buy the game. And I'm sure that there are other people on this site that would buy this game too. So x.SuperMario.x, while your traveling on the road thinking about playing your Wii or whatever you have high interest for, me and Badknux would be playing Super Smash Bros. on DS if they, again, came out with one while going to wherever we want to go.

PHANTOM93

#340

PHANTOM93 said:

@ classicmike

I'd like more 3rd party characters too namely Tails, Knuckles and Mega Man

@ Badknux

I'd buy it too :-)

BB_Sting

#341

BB_Sting said:

hmm, how long does this thread have to be before we set a new VCR record. VCR=virtual console reviews for those who still use betamax :)

classicmike

#342

classicmike said:

@ PHANTOM93: I would also like Ryu from Ninja Gaiden and Geno since he deserves to be in another game and not just disappear like Mario's cousin Stanley from Donkey Kong 3.
@ BB Sting: We would need five - fifty-five more comments to probably set a new VC-R record.

classicmike

#343

classicmike said:

@ PHANTOM93 and Badknux: Also would you think that they would still have final smashes and assist trophies in the game too? I would also like to see them put the platform stage that you had to do in the first SSB game back into the game.

Digiki

#344

Digiki said:

@Will
I respect that opinion, I'm guessing it's a little too slow, unbalanced, and lacking in advanced techniques for your liking?
Oh and the lack of hitstun and the new airdodge mechanic stop combos. Personally I prefer it to Melee as I don't have any competition to regulary play with so Brawls online will do.

@Badknux
Everything you said about the smash characters is wrong, Snake is the 2nd best character in the game by a longshot due to his superfast, highly damaging, long-range, huge knockback tilts. Aswell as his infinite recovery, and excellent camping ability. Ness's recovery is somewhat poor due to how easy he is to gimp, but Lucas's is in no way terrible, plus he has a tether. Dedede is one of the best characters in the game due to chaingrabs, great weight and recovery, great aerials, great up tilt, and spammable waddle dees. Jigglypuff is almost the worst though because of her terrible weight and attack range. Captain Falcon is the worst character due to his bad priority, and poor power to speed ratio on his moves.

@x.SuperMario.x
How praytell(sp?) is Smash Bros DS a terrible idea, how does having Nintendo's best franchises on both of their current systems going to stop people from buying one of the consoles. By that logic why would anyone have bought the DS or Wii, all the best franchises are out on older systems (and they're better games too).

PHANTOM93

#345

PHANTOM93 said:

@ classicmike

I'd like it if nintendo included final smashes. But I don't know if a DS cart has enough memory for trophies and stickers without taking away certain play modes and characters. Also I'd like a stage editor and Wi-fi support for it.

@ Digiki

There's really no point in debating which Smash Brothers character is the best/worst because your choice depends on your playing style. I for one am actually quite good with Captain Falcon, while I can't stand King Dedede. I do however agree with you that Jigglypuff sucks!

Bendover83

#346

Bendover83 said:

I would go for a Smash DS, I don't think they would put a lot of new characters in but probably Zelda/Sheik, Sonic, Marth, Luigi, Ganondorf, and take out Jigglypuff. ha
Also, they needed Mega Man in the game. He's one of the most legendary mascots for nintendo who's not in there. His body would tradtionally be from older Mega Man games, and not from the Mega Man X games. They also needed Knuckles.

AlexSays

#347

AlexSays said:

Once again, know how those traditional Pokemon games are ALWAYS on the DS?
And the Wii gets Pokemon spin-offs?

Same thing here.
Smash Bros. sells consoles. Pokemon sells handhelds.
Why would Nintendo hurt themselves by letting DS owners play Smash Bros.?

They wouldn't.
They make them buy a Wii.
You'll never see a traditional Pokemon game on a console, and you'll never see a Smash Bros. game on a handheld.

Oh, and for those who don't know the meaning of traditional.
This is what I mean.

By that logic why would anyone have bought the DS or Wii, all the best franchises are out on older systems

Because people always want the newer updated version.
It's why people bought Brawl, even if they already had Melee.
And it's the reason people buy Madden every year.

PHANTOM93

#348

PHANTOM93 said:

@ x.SuperMario.x

I respectfully disagree with your opinion.

The reason that Pokémon doesn't have a "traditional" console counterpart is probably because Nintendo doesn't know how to take the core gameplay into 3-d without changing the overall formula too much.

And the only reason that I can see why Nintendo hasn't made a handheld Smash Bros. yet is because the Game Boy/Advance didn't have enough processing power in them to make a full Smash Bros. game experience. Besides Smash Bros. DS would probably sell a crap load of copies. When hasn't a business liked profit?

Bendover83

#349

Bendover83 said:

Smash DS would probably have some kind of trade system with either stickers or trophies to get a even more rare trophy/stickers, but I'm thinking to much of Pokemon so I don't think that would happen. Wi-fi support would be a given, and probably final smashes. I'd say around 25 stages, most of Smash64 stages and maybe a few new ones.

I beat Y's book one yesterday. I started playing the day before. I'm enjoying it. I like the story and love the rock.

MayhemStaff

#351

Mayhem said:

Ice Climbers are not bad, but they need playing correctly. I've faced a couple of excellent IC players online, really knew what they were doing. Jigglypuff on the other hand... yeah, please find me someone who thinks she can be good! :p

Digiki

#352

Digiki said:

@PHANTOM93
It's a fact that some characters are better than others. Personally I also can't stand Dedede either but that doesn't make him any less good.

@x.SuperMario.x
Yes people want the new updated version, which the hypothetical version would be (if it was more than a slightly advanced N64 port).
The Wii wouldn't sell less just because smash was on the DS as it would be a completely different game than Brawl

Anyways personally I'd like to see a full fledged effort put into a 2d smash bros, as in sprites. Allowing for more characters and such, but I doubt they'd put the effort in.

AlexSays

#353

AlexSays said:

Sorry guys, it'll NEVER happen.
I love how people recognize the importance of exclusives between consoles, but can't see the importance between console and handheld.

Oh, and here's another thing.
To everyone saying Nintendo won't lose money, you're wrong.
If I buy Smash Bros. for my DS, I don't have to buy a Wii.
But thats not all....

I also don't buy anything else for my Wii... because you know... I don't have one.

Exclusives not only make people buy consoles, but it widens the install base for future games.
If someone buys a Wii for Smash Bros., they'll probably buy even more games.
Games they wouldn't buy had they bought Smash Bros. for their DS...

Oh, and to people saying they disagree with my opinion..
It's not my opinion.
It's a fact.
Even during the low points of the Gamecube's life, Nintendo didn't even entertain the thought of putting a traditional Pokemon game on the Gamecube.
Why not? It would have sold millions?
Because it would've been a terrible idea.

Sorry guys.
It's one of those ideas that only sounds good on paper... if that.

AlexSays

#354

AlexSays said:

The reason that Pokémon doesn't have a "traditional" console counterpart is probably because Nintendo doesn't know how to take the core gameplay into 3-d without changing the overall formula too much.

So Nintendo could do that with Zelda, Mario, and Metroid, but they can't do that with Pokemon?
Lol.

Sorry, I don't usually laugh at people's posts...

#355

said:

To Digiki:

Everything I said about the Smash characters is right, based on my own opinion that is. I can't stand playing as all the characters I named off, so I go around and say there the worst because to me, they are. If you like them, great, my brother loves playing as Snake. Me on the other hand, I can't stand him.

To x.SuperMario.x:

I have heard rumors about a Smash Bros for the DS, entitled Super Smash Bros Rumble. But, due to the "rumor" status, its smarter not to take it seriously. But if they did release a Smash Bros on the DS, not only would you buy it, but everyone else who remotely enjoys the series would, because they want more. If Nintendo decides its a good idea, then they will do it. Sorry if that bothers you.

And finally, to classicmike:

The only thing I wouldn't want them to bring back are the Final Smashes. I just thought that they turn the tide of a battle in an unfair manner. But, that's just my opinion. What do you think of them?

AlexSays

#356

AlexSays said:

Lol. So you ignored every single point I made, and just made several people happy with a false rumor?
Well that's okay I guess.

If Nintendo decides its a good idea

Nintendo has already decided.
There's been several 2D Pokemon games, not one on a console.
There's been three Smash Bros. games, not one on a handheld.
So is this a "let's wait one more generation" type thing?

Sorry if that bothers you.

Don't be sorry, because it'll never happen.
I don't care one way or another.
I just don't choose to be ignorant and ignore the facts.
Oh, did I mention it'll never happen? ;)

#357

said:

Another person on this website was so sure about a certain game not coming out last Monday, acting like they knew it all. And what do you know, they were wrong.

Despite any coincidental evidence you have compiled just so you could argue some more on the internet, you can never know if Smash Bros will come out on the DS, ever. And it does bother you, that is why you keep replying. In fact, I go so far as to say that you are ripping your hair out in frustration, just because I won't agree with you on this subject.

AlexSays

#358

AlexSays said:

Lol. Let's get a couple things straight.

1.) As long as I'm right, I could care less if people agree with me.
2.) Guessing VC games is totally different. You're wanting Nintendo to hurt themselves by taking away certain console-handheld exclusives. Sorry if you want to hurt Nintendo, but I don't.
3.) So your rumors are better than my "coincidental evidence"? Yeahp, because I'll take rumors over facts any day. sarcasm

4.) My hair is really short. Besides, I wouldn't rip out my hair for a game I couldn't care less about. I've already wasted $50 on Brawl. I just feel the need to reply, so others don't get caught up in your "what it" nonsense.

This is actually such a terrible idea, the rumors aren't even that big.
But this isn't even the first terrible idea of the article. Remember when that guy wanted to lower the price of XBL?
I'm not sure which idea is worse, that one or this one.

People need to realize, just because you want something, doesn't make it a good idea.
I mean, I want three other girlfriends, but is that really a good idea? Nope, so I'll stick to having just one.

Stuffgamer1

#359

Stuffgamer1 said:

@ BB Sting: Yeah, that's the one. Much better, thanks.

@x.SuperMario.x: I don't mean to blindly argue against your point (it does make some sense), but what about Mario Kart? They could've kept that on consoles, and yet they've made two handheld editions. Also, Mario Party. After 5 or 6 console versions, they decided to put it on GBA. After 8, they made it for DS. So why not Smash for DS? It makes sense to everybody here but you, it seems. Also, I think a "traditional" Pokemon on Wii wouldn't really work. Something about it just doesn't sound all that fun (then again, I haven't really liked the series since Gold & Silver, so maybe I can't judge that). I'm genuinely interested to read your response to this, as long as it isn't too insulting (please!).

AlexSays

#360

AlexSays said:

Thank you for supporting my point. :P
Here's what Nintendo is doing...
They're putting as much franchises on both, consoles and handhelds, without sacrificing the sales of either.
See what I mean?

So Nintendo is asking themselves...
How many franchises can we put on the DS, without lowering Wii sales?

Now about your example...
Mario Party is NOT a system seller.
Smash Bros. is.
So they can put Mario Party on the DS, since nobody bought the DS just to play Mario Party.
Same goes for Mario Kart.
On the other hand, people will buy a Wii just to play Smash Bros.

Wanna know why they made the sequel to Wind Waker on the DS?
Because those who liked Wind Waker, have to buy a DS to enjoy that type of Zelda.
Smash Bros. is the same game, so it'd be almost a straight port.
So why would Nintendo give people the option to buy a $30 port, rather than purchase a $250 console and a $50 game?
Especially when Nintendo knows everyone who bought a Wii for Brawl, will probably buy more Wii games in the future.

I'm genuinely interested to read your response to this
Wow, I don't get that often. :p

CanisWolfred

#361

CanisWolfred said:

Well, it's been almost a week now, and I still haven't gotten my hands on a card.Why do I even bother keeping up with these releases, I never get anything on it's first week, even when I try!

Oh, and I read an interview between Nintendo Power and the director of the Super Smash Bros. games where he was asked if they will be DS SSB, and he said no, at least not one made by his team. There won't be a SSB DS, and even if there is, it won't be as good.

#362

said:

This whole argument has spun way out of control. All I was saying above were ideas I had for a Super Smash Bros DS title. I wasn't saying that there was going to be one, or anything like that. I just thought that it would be fun to dream. So stop crushing them!

#364

said:

Also, there is something else you should all know about SSBDS. It is coming, there is plenty of evidence all around us. Let me give you the biggest hints as to what I am referring to.

August 23, 1898:

A group of farmers discover a small meteor outside their plantation. Upon its observation, they discover a small series of pictures and symbols. What it meant, they didn't know. As a result, they sent it to Government Island, where all things go when they pass on.

Upon its arrival, Survival Gabon was aired on UPS, but was quickly Conquested by the Planet of the Apes. Why, I can't say. Some think that the 50 Cent had something to do with it, but I say Elisabeth Taylor is responsible.

Then, out of the blue, I stopped writing.

And that is how I know the Stork is real. I know because my mommy told me so! You believe me, don't you?

#365

said:

Honestly, I'm tired of arguing about Super Smash Bros. Lets talk about something else.

#367

said:

You know what sets this website apart from others? How everyone can choose a little picture to identify themselves, that all fit evenly into a smal square box in the upper left hand corner.

Did I ever mention that I can't stand the Jonas Brothers?

@ Rexy

I like Pokemon Yellow

CanisWolfred

#368

CanisWolfred said:

@Badknux

Umm, actually every site lets you do that, they're just harder to notice. What sets this site apart is the general lack of flaming, as has been previously stated. Also we can start talking about stuff that has nothing to do with the topic, and you don't get in trouble, so long as it's appropriate.

#369

said:

How dare you presume that I didn't know that almost every other website lets you pick little pictures for your account! I picked Knuckles for my account, did you see him? Isn't he so cute!?

PHANTOM93

#370

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Badknux

Your story made me ROFL :-)

Also my favorite Pokémon was Pokémon Gold. Unfortunately the only one I owned where my save battery died (it made me very sad....)

Goodsonic

#371

Goodsonic said:

@ Badknux

Knuckles is not cute, Sonic is cute! How dare you try to compare the two. A showdown must be announced. The gauntlet is thrown!

#372

said:

How dare you Goodsonic! Yes, we must thumb wrestle to decide which nearly identical Sonic character is better. I will meet you at Diddy's pad! Be there, or be square!

CanisWolfred

#373

CanisWolfred said:

@Badknux

So why'd you say it sets this site apart?

@PHANTOM93

Yeah, my Gold doesn't save anymore either. I spent more hours playing that game than just about anything else, and in the end all that time and effort was lost due to a faulty battery.

#375

said:

Just an update for you all, I vanquished Goodsonic in a thumb wrestling match. This rivalry has come to an end, needless to say, Diddy was unhappy.

@ Mickeymac

I...don't...know...

PHANTOM93

#376

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Mickeymac

I MISS MY LEVEL 100 DRAGONITE! HE WAS SO YOUNG!!!!
begins to cry mournfully

#377

said:

You know Phantom93, I had a level fifty something Butterfree, and almost beat Mewtwo wih it. It was really exciting because he and Mewtwo were almost evenly matched. But Mewtwo slowly was taking the lead HP wise, and I had to back out for the sake of Butterfree's pride. He was very unhappy about that.

CanisWolfred

#378

CanisWolfred said:

I miss the level 100 Firaligator I stupidly named! Why Wonaniko?! Why?!!!!!!

Heck, I was training like three different teams to level 50 for Pokemon Stadium 2, and I was getting so close!!

Ricardo91

#379

Ricardo91 said:

HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS THERE"S A LOTTA COMMENTS ON THIS PAGE!!!! :o :o :O

"Godd ol' Captain Falcon. Even though he's the worst character in Brawl..."

THAT IS A LIE! Captain Falcon is a great character, though not a lot of people I've seen online can use him right. :P
You just need to learn how to manage his speed and time his moves right is all. In fact, I beat the last event match in Melee using him, so nyah!

@Will. I agree that The Subspace Emissary was pretty crappy. Ever since I beat it and got all the characters to join me, I barely even touched it. Those characters just weren't meant to be in platforming stages. The boss fights were fun though, and those cutscenes were so pretty...
Also, I still play Brawl on a regular basis, but since I've done all the important stuff, I just spend my time playing online, building the occaisional stage, and attempting stadium games.
I do admit though that I enjoyed Melee a bit better. Brawl just had far too much hype behind it and it lessened the enjoyment of the game for me. :P

Also to whoever said the Ice Climbers suck; they aren't that bad. They're just tricky to use. I've had quite a few victories with them.
And to those who are curious, the characters I'm best with are Kirby, King Dedede, Pokemon Trainer, Mr. Game and Watch, Ness, Toon Link, Ike, and Ganondorf, among others.
I agree with Badknux that Jigglypuff is the worst character. Olimar blows too.

"Just because you want it doesn't make it a good idea."

Maybe not to you, but they would think it's a good idea. That's just their opinion.

Also, I'm sorry, but I think a DS Smash Bros. would be a great idea. I'd love to blow up Pit with a Bob-omb while I'm on the go. :D
Please don't attack me.

BTW, I've wondered about this for a while: how do you do italics on this thing?

Ricardo91

#380

Ricardo91 said:

382?!?! Alright, this comment thread has gone on for far too long! Time to end it!

<Grabs double-barreled shotgun>

Say g'night, thread!

"chuk-chuk!"

Stuffgamer1

#381

Stuffgamer1 said:

I think Badknux went off the deep end... just a JOKE! But seriously, did you just create Goodsonic for that joke, because I don't remember seeing him before, and it seems veeeeery suspicious...

@x.SuperMario.x: You're welcome. And thank you for responding in a polite and thoughtful manner. I admit that your points appear valid, and agree that you are correct. While series like Mario GAMES (platformers like New SMB, not Parties and stuff), Zelda, etc. are system sellers, an extra Mario Party here and there is just a neat little bonus (to those who'd actually buy it, anyway). Those games DO sell really well, though (Mario Party DS was almost impossible to find around Christmas last year), and I'm sure that Mario Kart is more likely to sell systems than Mario Party. It's also far more likely that you'd want to own multiple Mario Kart games than multiple Mario Parties. i.e. I own Mario Kart DS & Wii but don't want Mario Party DS & 8 (do have 8, don't want DS). Anyway, that's my input.

PHANTOM93

#382

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Badknux

Really, and here I am thinking that bug Pokémon suck once you beat the second gym, boy was I ever wrong :-P

@ Mickeymac
You know what's really stupid, the first time I played through Gold Version I actually named my rival "???" :-P

#383

said:

Goodsonic is very real. I battled him in a thumb wrestling match, I know better than anyone. I don't want to talk about it anymore, its too upsetting. He was like a brother.

Talk...Talk...Talk!

#384

said:

@ Phantom93

It wasn't just because he was a bug, but he had Psybeam on his side. I used that move so many times, it was my favorite. It practically worked on everybody. That was my secret. Shhh...don't tell anybody!

#385

said:

Well, I'm going to turn the computer off for the night, see you all tomorrow. Goodsonic, hold all my messages!

CanisWolfred

#387

CanisWolfred said:

@Mr. Cheez

You use "_" on either side of the words you want italicized.
I wanted to say something else to you, but I can't remember what it was.

I'm not particularly good with any character, but besides Jigglypuff, there really isn't any "bad" character in the game.

@Phantom93

At least you named him something appropriate, unlike some of my compatriots. Me, I just typed random letters. :P

Stuffgamer1

#388

Stuffgamer1 said:

Hey, Mr. Cheez. That was me who complained about the Ice Climbers. I've won with them before, but I just find them hard to use because they're so weird (or "unique," if you prefer). I use them only when they come up on random character. There'll always be disagreements on characters, anyway. Like you dissing Olimar just now. He does serious damage if you can stick all six Pikmin on someone! And all the people dissing Jigglypuff. Come on, she's not THAT bad! My brother likes her a bit too much, though, and over-relies on Rollout. That nets me some pretty easy kills sometimes, and high damage sticking Pikmin on him :D. And it's always hilarious when he self-destructs off of the Great Fox on Corneria. Jigglyyyyyyy...ugh!

Stuffgamer1

#389

Stuffgamer1 said:

@x.SuperMario.x: Dude, that's just wrong. Don't you have ANY respect for ANYTHING? I'd hoped you had a little more tact that THAT, but I guess I was wrong. You can be as disagreeable as you want when it comes to games, but PLEASE do NOT go around making inappropriate religious jokes. Thank you.

Stuffgamer1

#391

Stuffgamer1 said:

Uhh... Mike, you do realize that this thread hasn't really been about SMRPG (save for a short interlude about Culex) for a few days/over a hundred posts, right? Just sayin'.

To bring back a bit of on-topicness (new words! Yay!), has anybody here every actually managed to get the Super Suit in SMRPG? I managed the Attack Scarf for the first time ever a couple days ago, but I'm not so sure I can reach 100 jumps (current record: 33). I've read about it on Gamefaqs and all, I'm just wondering if anybody here has any extra tips or something. Or maybe you just want to brag but hadn't thought of it until now. Whatever.

PHANTOM93

#392

PHANTOM93 said:

@ Mr. Cheez

I think your virtual shotgun shell missed :-P.

Next time try using a virtual nuke, I hear they kill off posts really well :-P

Stuffgamer1

#393

Stuffgamer1 said:

Thank you, x.SuperMario.x. You may not agree with or understand my views, but I'm glad you'll still delete a post if it's complained about. I don't want to seem like some religious freak or anything, that just bothered me. Your new use of the word, however, I've been forced into being more lienient with as I have coworkers who say it rather a lot. So yeah, guess we'd better just close this subject now. After I ask you to please remember this so it doesn't happen again. Thanks!

So... does nobody care about Super Suits, or are they all just in bed, like I should be (it's almost 4 a.m. here!)? Guess I'll find out tomorrow.

Bendover83

#394

Bendover83 said:

@Stuffgamer1: Never got the super suit. I've gotten to 67 jumps on the emulator and like 41 on original console, if I had enough patience I think I could get the Edit: I meant the Super Suit. Scarf was 30 suit was 100.
O, I want whatever BadKnux/GoodSonic is on right now. wackytabbacky. ha. Either that or pancakes.?!?!?
mmmmm.....pancakes.
"Did anyone know that they are making a car that runs on water. A car that runs on water man!" "So it's a boat." "No, it's an actual car that is powered by water." (That 70's Show)

Terra

#396

Terra said:

Well, a good week for you guys. I can't believe this topic has nearly got 400 comments. What a record

Terra

#397

Terra said:

Maybe you guys will get Mario Golf to go alongside Groovin Blocks. That's what i predict. Maybe you'd also get Space Invaders

Edit: 400 Comments!! What A Record

Edit.2: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! One of the comments was deleted. Curse you Post remover

#398

said:

Okay, so I just got Lords of Thunder! It is so awesome! The soundtrack is cool, and gameplay is loads of fun.

Have any of you gotten it?

classicmike

#399

classicmike said:

Wow 400 comments! Alright, I think this is a new record for this website! Great job everyone, keep up with the comments!
Dang it, I missed the Pokemon and Super Smash Bros. DS talk!

StarDust4Ever

#401

StarDust4Ever said:

Badknux (post #360)
"Another person on this website was so sure about a certain game not coming out last Monday, acting like they knew it all. And what do you know, they were wrong."

Interseting you make that statement. I correctly predicted (more than a week in advance, no doubt) that SMRPG would come out labour day weekend as the 250th game, and boy was I right. (hint: my comments are buried somewhere in the "SMRPG talk" forum, as well as scattered across VC-reviews and beyond). That certain person in the forum later had to "eat his helmet" [hint, hint...]

It felt good to get that one right (I can "read" Nintendo like a book), and it (SMRPG) now has the #1 spot over Mario Brothers 3. Yay!

EDIT: Oh, cool. I got post #404 [Error: Page not found] - Just kidding, LOL!

#402

said:

@ StarDust

I had a feeling SMRPG would come out Labor Day too. It just seemed so right. I was so excited that morning, I nearly wet myself (just kidding, but not really).

#403

said:

Hey, you know whats crazy?

The XBOX 360 has an entire page on Wikipedia dedicated to its technical issues. Hm...I didn't notice one of those for the PS3 or Wii, did anyone else?

Hey, you know what's crazy?

The fact that that Super Mario 64 (which would later evolve into Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy) was ported to the Nintendo DS. Sound like another franchise that appears on every console?

Hey, you know what's crazy?

I mentioned above that there was a person who swore that Super Mario RPG wasn't coming out Monday. But it did. I wonder why he thought he knew it all? Maybe because he put together "coincidental evidence" and figured that he was right, since it "seemed" like it wouldn't come out. But it did.

Isn't all that stuff crazy?

timp29

#404

timp29 said:

400 posts?? ok smrpg is good... but surely people have better stuff to do :P

GameSearcher

#405

GameSearcher said:

Wow, over 400 posts.
Super Mario RPG has the #1 spot? Wait, it has already sold more copies than any other VC game?

AlexSays

#406

AlexSays said:

@ GameSearcher- Rankings are based on sales each week.
So Super Mario RPG has sold the most this week, not all time.

@ Badknux- Some people just don't know when to drop it.
But here's a few more points..
1.) The guy had no evidence of SMRPG not coming, he had a hypothesis.
2.) That argument works both ways. You think you know a certain game will come out, just as he thought a certain game wouldn't come out.

But I really don't feel like debating this with kids who have too much time on their hands.
Nintendo has already made their decision, and they'd rather not hurt themselves. If you refuse to accept that, too bad.

Just to make you happy though.
Smash Bros. DS is definitely coming out, along with Kid Icarus, and a plethora of other fictitious games.
So get hyped, and start saving your money.

timp29

#407

timp29 said:

super mario, "don't feel like debating this with kids who have too much time on their hands" lol. You should soften the blow with a :P once in a while

AlexSays

#408

AlexSays said:

Well someone making two accounts on a video game site, (Badknux & GoodSonic) and then talking to themselves, is my definition of someone having too much time on their hands.
Oh, and :P.

On another note, only like 50 of these 411 comments are SMRPG related.
I'm surprised VC-R hasn't deleted some of these...

#409

said:

Grouping up on someone is tacky. So timp29, butt out. And by the way, I'm not a "kid" with too much time on my hands...I'm a "loser" with too much time on my hands.

And Super Mario, I don't know when to drop it, you're right. So go ahead, jump for joy!!!!!!

He didn't have a hypothesis, he had "coincidental evidence", just like you have. You put a few circumstances together, and assume that everything will work the same way. And the argument didn't work both ways. I knew it would come out, and it did. I was right, he was wrong, like someone else I know. And, just because Nintendo has made a decision now, doesn't mean they won't change their minds.

And by the way, you sure reply to these fast. How often do you check this site? Don't you have a life? Why don't you go spend some time with your one girlfriend. I guess you couldn't though, seeing as how she is imaginary, like Goodsonic (not GoodSonic). And, it was supposed to be funny. See me laugh (of course not).

And hey, you didn't reply to my XBOX statement? Why not, you know you want to.

Badknux: 01!
x.SuperMario.x: -01

Oh, and :p (tee-hee-hee, LOL, OMG!!!!!!!!!)

#410

said:

I think its funny how you say I don't know when to drop it. You just responded yet again. The bigger person would just let it go. Why don't you grow up. You know, since you're not a kid. Right?

Why don't you respond SuperMario? Its been five seconds.

You know what, I'll be the bigger man and drop this topic. I've had enough of arguing with a child that got onto his mommy's computer and is speaking his little mind about his version of the truth.

This conversation is now over.

AlexSays

#411

AlexSays said:

How often do you check this site?
Boring job with weird hours. Checking this site is sometimes the only thing that keeps me awake.

Why don't you go spend some time with your one girlfriend. I guess you couldn't though, seeing as how she is imaginary
I'm working, she's home. I don't work at home. But I don't feel the need to prove I have a girlfriend. So I don't have one, all better now?

you didn't reply to my XBOX statement?
I haven't bothered myself to read all your posts. And now it's buried amidst 400 other comments, so I won't go searching.

Why don't you respond SuperMario? Its been five seconds.
I don't type fast.

I'm not going to post anything else on this page.
Thanks.

AlexSays

#413

AlexSays said:

My followers are just as criticized as I am, it comes with the territory. ;)

On a side note: This article has produced some of the strangest off-topic conversations in VC-R history...

Bendover83

#414

Bendover83 said:

People and their bickering. It's a riot. That's what keeps me awake.
@timp29: This site is like someone putting honey out for bees. You put out a certain comment (honey), sooner than later the bee(s) will start to come and get the honey but then sting you constantly. Why? because its honey and you put it out there, so you get stung.
" /> ;) :> :p
If that didn't make sense, well then I'm clearly drunk.
Tomarrow's VC games: Hudson "says" both of their games are coming out tomarrow, but we probably all know what happened a month ago. Well it could happen, but I'm thinking Mega Man 2 and Final Soldier or Cho Aniki.

Digiki

#417

Digiki said:

@ SuperMario
No releasing Smash Bros DS would not hurt the Wii's sales, if people were going to buy a Wii for Brawl most people would've done so by now seeing as it's been out in America for 6 months ( as of tomorrow). Also if there was a Smash DS that came out the same time as Brawl it would be a vastly different game, so it wouldn't hurt the Wii sales enough to make the DS version unproffitable.

@Mr. Cheez
I can use the Good Cap'n, he's one of my best, but that doesn't make him a good character, also Captain Falcon was alot better in Melee due to hitstun which let him combo to his mighty Knee of Justice. Also Olimar is very very good except for his terrible recovery, he also has a high learning curve. Anyways if you think your Falcon (or anyone else is pretty good) I'll brawl you sometime my FC is 0387- 8467- 4163 Benjy

classicmike

#418

classicmike said:

@ Digiki: Hey can I have your friend code too? I'll give you mine friend code if you'll like that.

Digiki

#419

Digiki said:

@classicmike
sure I'll play you sometime, maybe tomorrow because I'm going to bed now but I don't get home from school till around 5:30 EST because I have soccer practice. Sound good?

Ricardo91

#420

Ricardo91 said:

@Mickeymac. Thank ya muchly, Mac! ;)

@Classicmike. I think I may have helped: My new Captain Falcon avatar started the whole Smash Bros. brigade. :P

@Badknux. You said what I was thinking lol. ;)

@Badknux and x.Supermario.x. Are you guys done already? No one has said anything relevant for the past 100 comments, and most of that blather seems to be from you guys (especially the Badknux/Goodsonic fight, which I admit was mildly amusing.).
Geez, where's Corbie when you need him? :P

@Stuffgamer1, much further up. Well, everyone has their favorites I suppose. I don't think Diddy Kong is very good either (though he is fast and his Final Smash is hilarious! :D). I know Olimar isn't that bad, but he's just too much work with the Pikmin and all, which is precisely why I don't like him. However, there is one character in SSB history that I think everyone can agree sucks ass: Pichu. As adorable as he is, he can't KO his way out of a paper bag. :P

@Timp. That's funny cuz it's true. ;)

@x.Supermario.x. so you spend all your working time blogging on this site? Where do you work, an abandoned warehouse or something?

@Bendover83. "people and their bickering. It's a riot. It's what keeps me awake."

Yeah, and it's also what distracts me from my homework, like now. :P

@Phantom. Don't know how I could've missed. Maybe the champaign I had last night messed up my aim. Let me try again now that I'm 100% sober:

"Chuk-chuk!"

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!

#BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG!!!!*

Awww crap, I'm outta ammo. :P
I don't have a virtual nuke, but maybe now I can find a use for that virtual nuclear missle lol. ;)

Edit: I had even more replies than this, but my mom scolded me for not doing my homework so I had to stop. Here they go:

@Digiki. Thanks 4 the friend code, guy! I'd tell you mine, but I can't remember it. I have it on this Friend Code exchange forum on VC-Forums, but I'm too lazy to add the link. Mickeymac has one on the SMRPG review page, though, so go there.

Bendover83

#421

Bendover83 said:

@Mr. Cheez: Let me help ya finish that with Batman sound effects
BANG! BANG! POW! SMASH! CRACK! BOOM! and I'm spent. :p

@Mr. Cheez: "so you spend all your working time blogging on this site? Where do you work, an abandoned warehouse or something?" Didn't you hear he works at one of those know-it-all jobs. jk. This is probably going to start something, so how about we just drop it before it starts. Anyways, I don't think he said "all" of his working time.

Rawk_Hawk

#422

Rawk_Hawk said:

@ Bad Knux
Lord of THunder is simply one of the best shooters ever. I would have never known about it until this site gave it excellent reviews!

Ricardo91

#423

Ricardo91 said:

@Mickey and Phantom, regarding the pokemon conversation. I too had an old Gold cart that died on me. Even though I didn't get nearly as far as you guys (I was somewhere around the 8th Johto gym and the Elite Four.), I was still pretty sad. My lv. 40 Typhlosion and red Gyarados were so young. :crying:
Thankfully I was eventually able to find a working copy at my local trading store. As for my rival, I usually name him "David" (of all the Davids I've known in my life, I've hated almost every single one of 'em. :P), or something simpler like "silly", "hugglebunny", or "lovemuffin". :P

@Mickey. I think I broke your record for the most "@"s within 2 posts.

AlexSays

#426

AlexSays said:

Where do you work, an abandoned warehouse or something?
You're closer than you think.

If there was a Smash DS that came out the same time as Brawl it would be a vastly different game
How so?
There's only so many ways you can change a fighting game.
In fact, Smash Bros. really hasn't changed since it was on the N64.
So a game on the DS would be almost the same thing, with DS controls slapped on.

Oh, and the smart people are thinking...
"Well what about Mario Kart?"

Yes, Mario Kart is basically the same game on the DS and the Wii.
So that's one franchise Nintendo is trying to milk on consoles and handhelds.
But they don't want to get greedy, and put another core franchise on the DS...
Right now, there's a perfect balance of Wii, DS exclusives, and Nintendo intends to keep it that way.

Digiki

#427

Digiki said:

Yes, Mario Kart is basically the same game on the DS and the Wii.

Let's see Wii is much less skill based due to powerful slingshotting (which as far as I know the DS version didn't have at all), more powerful items including one that hurts you when you get it if your at the head of the pack, new miniturbo mechanic which removes snaking but decreases the depth (just like the new airdodge mechanic in brawl stops wavedashing). Basically the DS version is the straight up Nintendo experiance of old, while the Wii version is the more casual easy to pîck up and play version the Wii has been targetting ( personally I see catering too much to the casuals to be THE worst thing in gaming at the moment

In fact, Smash Bros. really hasn't changed since it was on the N64.
Wrong. Melee added tons of depth, with the reduced hitsun, airdodges, directional influence, side-b moves, sidestep dodges, directional throws, etc.

So a game on the DS would be almost the same thing, with DS controls slapped on.
If you think that anything other than an advanced N64 port would be like that your just being ignorant.
As such the DS would have different physics than Brawl making it a different beast, just like how Melee and Brawl are vastly different beasts. Anyways if Nintendo is willing to put forward a strong effort into a game theres no reason not to make it just cause another game in the series is on another console.

Super_Sonic

#431

Super_Sonic said:

Everyone lets go back to talking about Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars!
This game will be mine when I get my next Wii Point Card! (I might even do a review on this!.) I can't believe I spent my last Wii Points on Super Mario World. It's too easy.

#434

said:

@ x.SuperMario.x - Comment # 429:

You are forgetting something! The Main Series of Mario games also shuffle between the Nintendo Wii and DS, as well as the Mario Sports (which Mario Kart is apart of), Mario RPG, and Mario Puzzle series. I think when you said "So, that's one franchise Nintendo is trying to milk on conoles and handhelds", you overlooked the two mentioned above. Nintendo is trying to milk the entire Mario series, because people love it so much. I can't say I feel any different, they're pretty fun.

And yes, I know I'm posting again, big surprise there.

Digiki

#435

Digiki said:

@ Super Sonic
Ah nice job. :)
But getting the Yoshi coins is fun, and I think it was fairly difficult in some levels.

Worenx

#436

Worenx said:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!! 8D Nintendo has given me an awesome present!

...Okay, so my birthday's IN September, and I DO have to pay the 800 points to receive it, but I CAN and WILL count it as a gift! ^ ^ I loved this game in the day, now I can enjoy it the way it was supposed to be. :D

CanisWolfred

#437

CanisWolfred said:

@Worenx

I have to ask you, who is that guy in your avatar? He looks awesome!

I think the fact that Super Mario World was a little easier than the rest was the reason why I loved it so much( that, and the cape rocks!). I never was able to beat it though( as is the case with most of the games I play), and I impressed that others were able to do so well!

Digiki

#438

Digiki said:

Ya, the slightly decreased difficulty does make it more accessable than games like Super Mario Bros 3's really hard world 8 (which I still haven't beaten, although I did 100% SMW)

Ian_Daemon

#439

Ian_Daemon said:

I just downloaded SMRPG last night and it's pretty cool. I was hesitant to see what SE would do with the Mario universe, but I like this game. I'm not a fan of the "Paper Mario" games, but SMRPG is better than all the "sequels".

AlexSays

#443

AlexSays said:

Is super mario rpg worth 450 posts?

No.
That's why like only 50 of these comments are fully dedicated to SMRPG.

Organized_Confusion

#444

Organized_Confusion said:

@timp29

There is a reason why it has received the most post..........One of the best if not the best SNES game (In my mind Super Metriod and this one battles it out for the number one spot).

BB_Sting

#445

BB_Sting said:

This thread is a classic. Too bad VC-R is gonna delete it in a few weeks. :( I've saved a copy in yahoo bookmarks :D

Ricardo91

#446

Ricardo91 said:

@BB Sting. I've discovered that nothing actually gets deleted off this site. It's just taken off of the home page. Just click on the link that says "US releases", found under every weekly update article, and you can look through all the previous weekly update articles. So this thread'll live on! ;)

This and the Cho-Aniki/ Final Soldier week were the best threads ever. :D

Digiki

#450

Digiki said:

So anyone else suprised at all the Hudson support the VC has but we don't have Mario Party yet?

Also what are your thoughts on Sin and Punishment because I'm pretty sure I'm going to get it. A Starfox 64 comparison would be good.

Will

#451

Will said:

Dont really care for mario party. Still lovin RPG! I think I mite cry when I reach the end of this game :( knowing that there will never be another. I just LOL'd a half hour ago when mario was pretendin to be a statue! :) This game is too fuuny!

Terra

#453

Terra said:

@digiki
Not worried about Mario Party as i have the first two games. Would love to see the Third game, that was hard to find and my local retro store recently closed

As for S&P, i would buy that without question. It's brilliant. While it does feel a little Star Fox with the on-rails stuff, i wouldn't say there's much similarities between the games

Digiki

#454

Digiki said:

@Terranigma
I have 1 and 3, but 2 is my favourite, because it was balanced unlike 1 ( you can gain coins from every game, instead of the occasional games where you were unable to gain coins only lose them in 1) also the minigame set was amazing keeping the best games from 1, but improving them and adding great new games, also I hated the few luck based games in 3 ( I HATE MERRY GO CHOMP!).

Well I wanted a comparison to SF64 as I loved everything about it, especially the Star Wolf battles as they are some of my favourite moments in gaming.

classicmike

#455

classicmike said:

@ Digiki: I hope that they start putting the Mario Party games on the virtual console, I have all of them except for the first one.

Digiki

#456

Digiki said:

@classicmike
The series really went downhill after 3 though: 4 got rid of the awesome items 3 and put in dumber ones, 5 switched items with those dumb capsules ( aswell as removing DK from the playable roster, while adding stupid choices like Boo), 6 I've only played once and don't remember at all so nothing to say about it, I absolutely hated 7 because there was so much dumb stuff and they bastardized the bonus stars ( instead of the reliable minigame, coin, and happening stars we get random ones) and there was a lot of luck based stuff, haven't played 8 much don't have a problem with it, Advance was an enjoyable simgle player game but wasn't a true party, and DS I enjoyed the minigames(could've been more variety though), but there a lot of luck at play, the items were nice enough though./end rant/

Anways I love number 2, the duel minigame of pirate land is awesome!

Will

#457

Will said:

You know what I have found strange about SMRPG? Smithy. We never see him, or know anything about him really. Not till we get to the final fight anyway. I assume Im at the final fight, in the factory. Unless something happens after that. In which case, dont tell me! I mean, you dont even know what he looks like till you meet him? Anyone else find that strange?
Also, why have we never heard from Geno or Mallow or any of the other characters in the SMRPG universe since? Wouldnt Geno have been a much better addition to the new mario kart then piranaha plant, Boo, or (shudder) Waluigi?

Digiki

#458

Digiki said:

Well Geno had an unobvious cameo in Superstar Saga, as well as being one of the most wanted characters for Brawl.

CanisWolfred

#460

CanisWolfred said:

3 and 5 for me, hated the rest of the series though.
Edit: and 7, because it has my favorite hockey and volleyball mini-games!

I don't know if I said this already, and the thread is too damn long to check, but I really don't see the appeal of Geno. H e seems kind of boring to me.

#461

said:

I like Mario Party 3 the best, seemed like the pinnacle or something. I own part one, as well as part four. But I really want 3 on the VC.

Cally

#462

Cally said:

(wandering back to the SMRPG thread . . .)

I seem to remember Geno being the stoic of the bunch (calm, reserved, even-handed, thoughtful . . .) that you pretty much need in the classic RPG ensemble. Mallow was the kid, and Bowser was the frustrated, washed-up boss-type. New characters/worlds for this game were never seen again, which SUCKS.

BB_Sting

#463

BB_Sting said:

Geno is owned by Square/enix so Nintendo would have to ask for their permission to put him in another game.

Ricardo91

#464

Ricardo91 said:

@Digiki. Geno made a cameo in Superstar Saga? Since when?

Regarding Mario Party, my favorites would have to be 4 and 6 (I never owned an N64, and thus never played 1-3.). I hated 5 because you couldn't play as Donkey Kong, the boards were too cutesy, many of the minigames were annoying, and the Single-player was as barebones as it got, even by MP standards. I didn't bother to try #7, since I've heard about how horrible it was. Also, am I the only here who remembers MP 8?

BB_Sting

#465

BB_Sting said:

That egg-plant creature from the old Captain N the Game Master tv show makes a cameo in this game. I only saw him once(pure dumb luck) in the palace bedroom at the mushroom kingdom. I think he said something about mother brain, but it's been yrs. since I've played.

Digiki

#466

Digiki said:

@Mr. Cheez
Geno is in that minigame where you tilt the plank back and forth causing items to fall into the pirahna plant's mouths, but he looks way diifferent from his SMRPG counterpart. ( haven't played it in over a year so I can't remember names of places and such) but thats why Squeenix is mentioned in the end credits.

Will

#467

Will said:

Well, its all over. Smithy is defeated and SMRPG is finished. :( sad face indeed :( I really wanted this game to keep going. There is still some loose ends to tie up of coarse, gotta plant that seed, find those other two flags, find the better weapons. And Im sure theres a ton more that I missed. I dont think there will ever be as epic a release as SMRPG on VC again :( I think Im going to cry.

BB_Sting

#468

BB_Sting said:

I dont think there will ever be as epic a release as SMRPG on VC again :( I think Im going to cry.

There, there Will. I'm sure we'll get Chrono Trigger in ohhh, about a hundred yrs. I'm sure your grand kids will enjoy it.:)

timp29

#472

timp29 said:

i never got to play chrono trigger... but i vote that the nintendo ceo should take one for the team and go do some felatio on the square ceo in order to get some of these classic rpg's to the VC!

juice

#473

juice said:

response to timp29

thats hilarious and i agree with you

i aint never played chrono trigger either, but i would definitely give it a try if VC released it

on a side note........
DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TOOK ME TO SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE!

400 hits = damn

Will

#474

Will said:

You can expect Chrono Trigger some time around the 500th VC release.

Digiki

#475

Digiki said:

500 seems realistic as at this rate it'll be in a bit less than 2.5years, possibly longer than Chrono Trigger DS will be on store shelves

Will

#476

Will said:

Well I would expect the 500th release to be something like chrono trigger, mario kart, majoras mask, yoshis island or similar.

#478

said:

Even now, when I see SMRPG on my Wii menu, I get chills. I still can't believe that it was finally released. It's just absolutely crazy, and still so much fun.

PSICOffee

#484

PSICOffee said:

woo I remember this! what a fun day, a couple years before I finally pushed my lazy butt to register and start commenting. Let's make 500 comments! :D

sonic_brawler95

#485

sonic_brawler95 said:

Wow........lotta words here.
I downloaded Super Mario RPG a long while ago, but I still have yet to finish it.

DKmania

#487

DKmania said:

The funny thing is, well over 75% of these comments have nothing to do with SMRPG.

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