Edit: Eventually, depending on feedback, Nintendo might alter this feature, such as number of consoles that can be per account, or playing simultaneously, something like that, I imagine.
Yeah, this sounds like it is aiming for consumers who don't already check sites like these. Sites like these, Nintendolife, will probably not die right away, if ever. The reasoning is simple: They are not Nintendo themselves. They can be honest, when Nintendo won't, because Nintendo wants to sell a product.
@Serpenterror I would say that's an easy way for the people deciding canon to better fit everything together, if they do choose to do. Nintendo ties together THE LEGEND OF ZELDA series with timeline splitting, then converging into one for BREATH OF THE WILD, and TEARS OF THE KINGDOM.
The movie being live action is what sounds debatable. On the other hand, they could also mean "live action", as in mo-cap live action translated to CGI.
Donkey Kong '94 is the flagship title for the SGB. I'd like to think Nintendo added full SGB support. Most SGB emulation is just the color, and border.
I'll still enjoy it.
@Not_Soos @TenEighty Just continue believing, thinking, acting as you do, and voting your choice. Everyone has their reasons for voting a certain way., and obviously not everyone is going to agree on the reasoning. I'm proud that I voted for President Trump, and I pray for our country.
As for tariffs on games, and hardware, there are far more valuable things to be concerned about than an already-expensive pass time.
A solid foldable screen idea like these manufacturers are going for, I imagine a workable solution would be something similar to how roof shingles can be folded in half. A screen with that degree of foldability, and a good, reliable durability, that would work.
My initial thought is what the article mentioned; people saving gold coins for specific high-profile releases, and even though it's only a few dollars here, and there, Nintendo has been seeing less on those high-profile releases than otherwise. I also suspect, again as the article mentioned, this system is probably being scrapped as the Switch 2 becomes Nintendo's new, and current system.
It would be great if Nintendo went to the the trouble of licensing the soundtracks from artists doing covers of their music, such as the Super Mario Bros. 3 Akihabara Electric Circus, or The Fantastic World Of Super Mario Bros. 3! Same for Metroid, Kid Icarus, The Legend Of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Super Mario Land, etc. A lot of those albums came out when Nintendo was still white-hot popular in the late 80s, and early 90s.
I wonder about saved game files that have already performed the glitch, and saved the early access to the 5 power taps. I wonder if those files will get modified by the update to remove the taps, or if those files will have complications later in-game for accessing something earlier than intended. Probably neither of those things will happen. Interesting to speculate, though.
@KayFiOS Nintendo 64 emulation is very unique, in terms of timing, accuracy, and having no graphical glitches. Alternatively, it could just be the video recording of the game, in conjunction with whatever platform the video was recorded on.
I also love glitches, and secrets in games. Neat find, especially since this is the type of glitch that could be found via traditional gameplay, whereas most glitches are only found via dumping the game code, and combing it for potential exploits; Edit: Hence, why many glitches have complex setups that would not be likely to occur during normal gameplay conditions.
I think at this point, Nintendo knows they can't really do "major surprises", because they have already shown us the console's form factor, and they did so, because information leakers were starting to get ahead of them. In addition to the fact they are well aware most potential consumers want basically a more-powerful Switch, and all these leaks, there is only so much they can surprise. That's why the reveal of the console is essentially similar in form factor to the OLED Switch.
Edit: The "mice" Joycons, and DK design were more of a surprise in that 3d-render video, than the console form factor, for examples. Anything else they can surprise with will be confirmation of hardware internals, operating system, and UI (User Interface).
In all seriousness, I won't be surprised if Alarmo owners report unique activity from the clocks on the days of a Direct, or specific Directs, like this one revealing information on Switch 2. Or, also on the actual release date of the console.
April 02nd is a Wednesday. That Thursday, and Friday, internet gaming news sites will be releasing article after article, and the Internet will be all over the Switch, for easy clicks. 55 days in between. 57 to go, only if you count today, and the day of the Direct. So, roughly 2 months.
Ah, the 3DS is so awesome! SM3DL was my favorite 3DS title. Also, I really loved what Club Nintendo was during this era, Wii/3DS/WiiU. In recent years, Nintendo, I think, has put most of that Club Nintendo prize creativity into their available-24/7 merchandise. There, they even sell the Nintendo Hallmark Christmas tree ornaments.
Nice, though the kickstand looks easily breakable. Same for those jutting ports to connect the Joycons; those ports remind me of the ports on a desktop Plug-N-Play card. On the potential flip side, this also could mean that Nintendo is intending to release various accessories to plug into those ports
U.S.A. copyright law doesn't prohibit emulators, and part of what keeps an emulator legal is not using copyright bios code, or any other copyright code in the system being emulated. Also, software backups are allowed. The distribution, or sale of these backups would be the violation.
Edit: Again, for a time, BLEEM! was once a PS emulator that was sold in stores. It operated by using different methods to play the discs. It used no copyright code, and therefore was legal.
@Bolt_Strike That's what I mean. Rumors are everywhere, and many of the people doing the predicting are not right enough times to be considered credible. As for Kit & Krysta, I was being sarcastic. I do pay attention to things they say, while at the same time knowing, like you said, they haven't been with Nintendo for some time, and even when they were, they only had so much in-sight on Nintendo.
While these leaks are exhausting, it's because there is always so much potential factual information, that it gets exhausting keeping up with all of it. Otherwise, yeah, I do as some of you do, and count rumors/leaks as potentially true, rather than gospel to hang onto.
On a less serious note: If Kit, & Krysta say they have inside information on the Switch reveal, that's information to take to the bank. 😁 More seriously, I won't be surprised if they do actually say something about Switch 2 eventually.
I seem to recall the Switch had a trailer in January before it released in March. Obviously, it wasn't the first Switch-related material. These rumors are exhausting.
@Anti-Matter I feel that scenario would be possible if Nintendo were to have their hardware commercially available not long after announcing it. While that is possible, I don't think that is what is happening here. I believe when Sega was still in the console business, they did something like that with either the Saturn, or one of the MegaDrive/Genesis add-ons, and that it didn't turn out well.
@liljmoore They get to make themselves into a content creator, famous among certain communities for leaks that turn out to be true. They build a YouTube, or TikTok career on it.
Too much has been allowed to be wild for years, now. Anything that is not in the interest of a country, or co. gets axed. That's common sense, and every place on Earth does this. It's not specific to one country, or another.
Smash just can't continue expanding each entry. That is not financially feasible for Nintendo, unless all content in-game belongs to them. They would have to keep paying license fees, and realistically, those fees are contractually limited to a certain date, and time. Nintendo isn't going to continuous pay out.
The other problems are space limitations per whatever media Nintendo will release games on. The games inevitably have to cut some content, however to Nintendo's benefits, these concepts can be reused in the same series, and/or different series. For example, Smash trophies can exist as a separate thing on a console, from Smash, and the console user could customize what trophies they want displaying, etc.
Smash 6 may carry the entirety of Ultimate, though it's unlikely Nintendo will pay those license fees continuously to a Smash 7.
I tried it, kinda liked it, kinda not as much as the GameCube iteration. Don't know if they got rid of the real money transactions for in-game stuff, or not.
Sure! Nothing can go wrong with a probably-cheaply produced item, probably produced no less, by a co. that normally doesn't deal/manufacture/sell that kind of item, and with less-than safe, and satisfactory end-product standards. When it comes to stuff like this, it's always better for a co. to stay, and operate in their own specific wheelhouse. There are other, cheaper, safer ways to include a bonus item for the new Mario Party Jamboree.
He sleeps as much as former (maybe also next) President Donald Trump, and Elon Musk. Maybe he needs Alarmo? Lol
What if, Nintendo were to do a remake of Melee, similar to The Thousand-Year Door? While the Switch could probably handle high-level emulation of the PowerPC GameCube, it would take some very good file compression technology to prevent even a hypothetical small NSO library of GCN titles from eating up much of the Switch internal memory.
@CinnamonRobin: Actually, when I received the YouTube notification for the video for this, that QOL product was exactly my thought, too.
@EveryoneElse Plot-Twist: I already have numerous times, and still do, use Nintendo osts, and remixes as my alarms for various things throughout the day, week, and year.
Yeah, I'll be checking them out, even though I'm not the biggest F-Zero fan. On the subject of NSO, I wonder if Super Smash Bros. will eventually be added to the N64 library? Satellaview? N64DD? Zapper/Super Scope support? Fully featured Super Gameboy?
I also think, though could be wrong, that GameCube won't be coming to NSO, until the next, or following console, because even compressing those games still makes many titles in that library almost a gigabyte. A group of those titles would significantly eat up Switch internal memory. On the other hand, if Nintendo can come up with stellar compression, or doesn't mind their hardware being known to require additional hardware (sd card) just for a digital game library, maybe an NSO GameCube could still happen before the next console. Doubtful.
Another way to view this, is Nintendo is playing Animal Crossing with the clock, and calendar set ahead. From the Moon Gazing to now expecting to see Jack soon enough. Just don't have anything valuable on your person, when he comes.
I think Nintendo is really pleasantly pushing for the finish line in 1st place. To keep to what they have said, they only have to reveal information on the Switch successor before the end of the 24/25 fiscal year, which is March 31st, 2025. It is doubtful they're holding out that long. I'm sure they just want to maximize Christmas sales, because even if the successor doesn't release next year, the fact that most know it is on the way is going to eventually slow down Switch sales. So, Nintendo is trying to get every last bit they can, before they know they have to move on.
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Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
I'll ketchup & mustard later. Work is money.
Re: "Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Games" Are A Thing, According To Official Website
We shall see what becomes of this. We shall see.
Edit: Eventually, depending on feedback, Nintendo might alter this feature, such as number of consoles that can be per account, or playing simultaneously, something like that, I imagine.
Re: 'Nintendo Today', A New Mobile App, Will Deliver Fresh Switch 2 News Every Day
Nintendo's Miiverse spiritual successor.
Re: 'Nintendo Today', A New Mobile App, Will Deliver Fresh Switch 2 News Every Day
Leakers will still exist. The "new thing" will be people hacking Nintendo servers to get the jump on upcoming releases of information.
Re: 'Nintendo Today', A New Mobile App, Will Deliver Fresh Switch 2 News Every Day
Yeah, this sounds like it is aiming for consumers who don't already check sites like these. Sites like these, Nintendolife, will probably not die right away, if ever. The reasoning is simple: They are not Nintendo themselves. They can be honest, when Nintendo won't, because Nintendo wants to sell a product.
Re: Nintendo Direct Confirmed For Tomorrow, 27th March 2025
Metroid Prime Time! Hopefully.
Anything retro Star Wars would be great. Such as Super Star Wars trilogy, or since this year is the 20th anniversary, the GBA Revenge Of The Sith.
Re: Random: Sega Surprises Sonic The Hedgehog Fans With Official Timeline
@Serpenterror I would say that's an easy way for the people deciding canon to better fit everything together, if they do choose to do. Nintendo ties together THE LEGEND OF ZELDA series with timeline splitting, then converging into one for BREATH OF THE WILD, and TEARS OF THE KINGDOM.
Re: Double Dragon Gaiden Doubles The Fun With A "Free DLC" Update Next Month
I thought DD was currently handled by ARC SYSTEM WORKS? I guess not.
Re: Nintendo's MAR10 Day eShop Sale Welcomes A Handful Of Sweet Savings (North America)
It would be nice if these prices applied for physical carts.
Re: "The Answer Was Always No" - Ex-Nintendo Employee On Zelda Movie Pitches
The movie being live action is what sounds debatable. On the other hand, they could also mean "live action", as in mo-cap live action translated to CGI.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Two More Titles
Donkey Kong '94 is the flagship title for the SGB. I'd like to think Nintendo added full SGB support. Most SGB emulation is just the color, and border.
I'll still enjoy it.
Re: Rare's Original N64 Shooter Could Be Inducted Into The 2025 World Video Game Hall Of Fame
The thing with GoldenEye is many like to say it was only revolutionary for home consoles. I still thought it was pretty good at the time.
By the way, Nintendo has dropped a new video of NSO Donkey Kong '94, and Mario's Picross.
Re: Analyst Fears U.S. Tariffs Could Spell Disaster For Physical Games
@Not_Soos @TenEighty Just continue believing, thinking, acting as you do, and voting your choice. Everyone has their reasons for voting a certain way., and obviously not everyone is going to agree on the reasoning. I'm proud that I voted for President Trump, and I pray for our country.
As for tariffs on games, and hardware, there are far more valuable things to be concerned about than an already-expensive pass time.
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
A solid foldable screen idea like these manufacturers are going for, I imagine a workable solution would be something similar to how roof shingles can be folded in half. A screen with that degree of foldability, and a good, reliable durability, that would work.
Re: Samsung Shows Off Its Switch-Inspired Foldable Handheld
@Cikajovazmaj Yeah, it probably is a patent just to build upon later.
Re: My Nintendo Store Adds Two Mario-Themed 'Exclusives' (US)
Those are all nice. Actually, I might get both.
Re: Random: Want To Play Smash Bros. Melee On The Train? Amtrak Is Fine With That
That's neat! Sounds like a wild kind of setup.
Re: Nintendo Is Discontinuing Gold Points, One Of The Switch's Best Incentives
My initial thought is what the article mentioned; people saving gold coins for specific high-profile releases, and even though it's only a few dollars here, and there, Nintendo has been seeing less on those high-profile releases than otherwise. I also suspect, again as the article mentioned, this system is probably being scrapped as the Switch 2 becomes Nintendo's new, and current system.
Re: Super Mario NES Banger Joins Nintendo's Music App, Here's The Full Tracklist
It would be great if Nintendo went to the the trouble of licensing the soundtracks from artists doing covers of their music, such as the Super Mario Bros. 3 Akihabara Electric Circus, or The Fantastic World Of Super Mario Bros. 3! Same for Metroid, Kid Icarus, The Legend Of Zelda, Donkey Kong, Super Mario Land, etc. A lot of those albums came out when Nintendo was still white-hot popular in the late 80s, and early 90s.
Re: Mario & Luigi: Brothership Version 1.0.1 Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@dcast2 Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it.
Re: Mario & Luigi: Brothership Version 1.0.1 Now Available, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
I wonder about saved game files that have already performed the glitch, and saved the early access to the 5 power taps. I wonder if those files will get modified by the update to remove the taps, or if those files will have complications later in-game for accessing something earlier than intended. Probably neither of those things will happen. Interesting to speculate, though.
Re: Cult N64 Platformer 'Glover' Finally Gets Switch Release Date
@KayFiOS Nintendo 64 emulation is very unique, in terms of timing, accuracy, and having no graphical glitches. Alternatively, it could just be the video recording of the game, in conjunction with whatever platform the video was recorded on.
Re: Random: Mario & Luigi: Brothership Glitch Lets You Get All 5 Power Taps Early
I also love glitches, and secrets in games. Neat find, especially since this is the type of glitch that could be found via traditional gameplay, whereas most glitches are only found via dumping the game code, and combing it for potential exploits; Edit: Hence, why many glitches have complex setups that would not be likely to occur during normal gameplay conditions.
Re: New Nintendo Patent Seems To Confirm Mouse Functionality For Switch 2
I think at this point, Nintendo knows they can't really do "major surprises", because they have already shown us the console's form factor, and they did so, because information leakers were starting to get ahead of them. In addition to the fact they are well aware most potential consumers want basically a more-powerful Switch, and all these leaks, there is only so much they can surprise. That's why the reveal of the console is essentially similar in form factor to the OLED Switch.
Edit: The "mice" Joycons, and DK design were more of a surprise in that 3d-render video, than the console form factor, for examples. Anything else they can surprise with will be confirmation of hardware internals, operating system, and UI (User Interface).
Re: Sega Files New 'Sonic Blitz' Trademark
@Sylamp @Coolmusic @HammerGalladeBro
I think you all are correct. Blitz has a football connotation to it. Hopefully, it will be quality.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Timings For The Switch 2 Direct In April
In all seriousness, I won't be surprised if Alarmo owners report unique activity from the clocks on the days of a Direct, or specific Directs, like this one revealing information on Switch 2. Or, also on the actual release date of the console.
April 02nd is a Wednesday. That Thursday, and Friday, internet gaming news sites will be releasing article after article, and the Internet will be all over the Switch, for easy clicks. 55 days in between. 57 to go, only if you count today, and the day of the Direct. So, roughly 2 months.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Timings For The Switch 2 Direct In April
Set your Alarmos, too!
Re: Random: This Super Mario 3D Land Mod Makes Us Long For A Switch Port
Ah, the 3DS is so awesome! SM3DL was my favorite 3DS title. Also, I really loved what Club Nintendo was during this era, Wii/3DS/WiiU. In recent years, Nintendo, I think, has put most of that Club Nintendo prize creativity into their available-24/7 merchandise. There, they even sell the Nintendo Hallmark Christmas tree ornaments.
Re: Review: Sutte Hakkun (SNES) - An Addictive Curio You Should Definitely Check Out
Cool! I always wondered where that Smash spirit came from. I always assumed it was from some obscure Nintendo DSi, or similar game.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@Bolt_Strike: Yeah, Nintendo released a "reveal" video this morning.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Reveal Trailer Gives First Official Look At The New Console
Nice, though the kickstand looks easily breakable. Same for those jutting ports to connect the Joycons; those ports remind me of the ports on a desktop Plug-N-Play card. On the potential flip side, this also could mean that Nintendo is intending to release various accessories to plug into those ports
Re: Nintendo Lawyer Breaks Down What Makes An Emulator Illegal
U.S.A. copyright law doesn't prohibit emulators, and part of what keeps an emulator legal is not using copyright bios code, or any other copyright code in the system being emulated. Also, software backups are allowed. The distribution, or sale of these backups would be the violation.
Edit: Again, for a time, BLEEM! was once a PS emulator that was sold in stores. It operated by using different methods to play the discs. It used no copyright code, and therefore was legal.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@Bolt_Strike That's what I mean. Rumors are everywhere, and many of the people doing the predicting are not right enough times to be considered credible. As for Kit & Krysta, I was being sarcastic. I do pay attention to things they say, while at the same time knowing, like you said, they haven't been with Nintendo for some time, and even when they were, they only had so much in-sight on Nintendo.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
While these leaks are exhausting, it's because there is always so much potential factual information, that it gets exhausting keeping up with all of it. Otherwise, yeah, I do as some of you do, and count rumors/leaks as potentially true, rather than gospel to hang onto.
On a less serious note: If Kit, & Krysta say they have inside information on the Switch reveal, that's information to take to the bank. 😁 More seriously, I won't be surprised if they do actually say something about Switch 2 eventually.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
I seem to recall the Switch had a trailer in January before it released in March. Obviously, it wasn't the first Switch-related material. These rumors are exhausting.
Re: GameStop's Internal Database Lists Multiple 'Switch 2' Accessory SKUs
@Anti-Matter I feel that scenario would be possible if Nintendo were to have their hardware commercially available not long after announcing it. While that is possible, I don't think that is what is happening here. I believe when Sega was still in the console business, they did something like that with either the Saturn, or one of the MegaDrive/Genesis add-ons, and that it didn't turn out well.
@liljmoore They get to make themselves into a content creator, famous among certain communities for leaks that turn out to be true. They build a YouTube, or TikTok career on it.
Re: Tencent Labeled A "Chinese Military Company" By US Government
Too much has been allowed to be wild for years, now. Anything that is not in the interest of a country, or co. gets axed. That's common sense, and every place on Earth does this. It's not specific to one country, or another.
Re: Anniversary: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Is Now Six Years Old
Smash just can't continue expanding each entry. That is not financially feasible for Nintendo, unless all content in-game belongs to them. They would have to keep paying license fees, and realistically, those fees are contractually limited to a certain date, and time. Nintendo isn't going to continuous pay out.
The other problems are space limitations per whatever media Nintendo will release games on. The games inevitably have to cut some content, however to Nintendo's benefits, these concepts can be reused in the same series, and/or different series. For example, Smash trophies can exist as a separate thing on a console, from Smash, and the console user could customize what trophies they want displaying, etc.
Smash 6 may carry the entirety of Ultimate, though it's unlikely Nintendo will pay those license fees continuously to a Smash 7.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Services Will End In China In 2026
There are usually other avenues of people accessing online systems, if need be.
Re: Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp's 'Thank-You Finale' Waves Goodbye To The Free Mobile App
I tried it, kinda liked it, kinda not as much as the GameCube iteration. Don't know if they got rid of the real money transactions for in-game stuff, or not.
Re: Random: Owners Of A Nintendo Frying Pan Are Being Warned Not To Use It
Sure! Nothing can go wrong with a probably-cheaply produced item, probably produced no less, by a co. that normally doesn't deal/manufacture/sell that kind of item, and with less-than safe, and satisfactory end-product standards. When it comes to stuff like this, it's always better for a co. to stay, and operate in their own specific wheelhouse. There are other, cheaper, safer ways to include a bonus item for the new Mario Party Jamboree.
Re: Let's Do The Time Warp In This New 'Tetris Forever' Trailer
Looks great, though I'd prefer physical.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Confirms He's Working On A New Game
He sleeps as much as former (maybe also next) President Donald Trump, and Elon Musk. Maybe he needs Alarmo? Lol
What if, Nintendo were to do a remake of Melee, similar to The Thousand-Year Door? While the Switch could probably handle high-level emulation of the PowerPC GameCube, it would take some very good file compression technology to prevent even a hypothetical small NSO library of GCN titles from eating up much of the Switch internal memory.
Re: Nintendo Asks Switch Online Playtest Program Participants To "Not Discuss Or Disclose Content"
This is something to keep eyes on.
Re: Forget 'Switch 2', Nintendo Has Just Revealed An Official Alarm Clock
@CinnamonRobin: Actually, when I received the YouTube notification for the video for this, that QOL product was exactly my thought, too.
@EveryoneElse Plot-Twist: I already have numerous times, and still do, use Nintendo osts, and remixes as my alarms for various things throughout the day, week, and year.
Re: Random: Spare A Thought For The Kid Whose Dad Returned Zelda: A Link To The Past
Interesting. I love TLOZ:ALTTP. It's my favorite, with Link's Awakening being my 2nd favorite.
Re: F-Zero 99 Update (Version 1.5.0) Adds Five New Tracks, Satellaview Content And Much More
I'll be expecting this to update, then.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's GBA Library With Two More Titles
Yeah, I'll be checking them out, even though I'm not the biggest F-Zero fan. On the subject of NSO, I wonder if Super Smash Bros. will eventually be added to the N64 library? Satellaview? N64DD? Zapper/Super Scope support? Fully featured Super Gameboy?
I also think, though could be wrong, that GameCube won't be coming to NSO, until the next, or following console, because even compressing those games still makes many titles in that library almost a gigabyte. A group of those titles would significantly eat up Switch internal memory. On the other hand, if Nintendo can come up with stellar compression, or doesn't mind their hardware being known to require additional hardware (sd card) just for a digital game library, maybe an NSO GameCube could still happen before the next console. Doubtful.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (28th September)
Super Mario 64 (NSO, & 3D All-Stars) (Tomorrow, Sept. 29th, is when SM64 released in the U.S.A)
Mega Man 11
NSO N64
NSO SNES
NSO GameBoy
God bless, happy weekend, and happy gaming, everyone!
Re: Deals: Nintendo's 2024 Christmas Switch Console Bundles Are Now Available To Buy
Another way to view this, is Nintendo is playing Animal Crossing with the clock, and calendar set ahead. From the Moon Gazing to now expecting to see Jack soon enough. Just don't have anything valuable on your person, when he comes.
I think Nintendo is really pleasantly pushing for the finish line in 1st place. To keep to what they have said, they only have to reveal information on the Switch successor before the end of the 24/25 fiscal year, which is March 31st, 2025. It is doubtful they're holding out that long. I'm sure they just want to maximize Christmas sales, because even if the successor doesn't release next year, the fact that most know it is on the way is going to eventually slow down Switch sales. So, Nintendo is trying to get every last bit they can, before they know they have to move on.