MrGawain

I had an N64 when it came out. The games were upwards of £60 and Turok was over £100. I got 6games for it, Mario 64, Pilot Wings, MK64, The Two Zelda’s, and Blast Corps.

Then the PS1 came out with much cheaper games and I forgot about it very quickly. That is the risk Nintendo is taking with the Switch 2.

Let’s be honest, aside from the hardcore audience no one is going to consider buying this at that price, especially tucked away on the eshop. It’s not even like recent Inazuma games (anything after the DS games) have been applauded for their quality.

Yes, £1000 is expensive for a shoehorn, but this one is diamond incrusted so it’s a bargain.

Personally I think there is tech in the Switch 2 like the Game Chat and the 4K resolution that might not be fully utilised by developers or players. Without that tech, they could have lowered the price.

If I’m honest, I’m probably willing to pay a lot of money for MKM, DKB, a 3D Mario, or a mainline Zelda.

The problem with that is there are other games that will also get a price rise that I’m on the fence about, and the sweet spot of £40-£50 makes me willing to give them a go. Kirby is a game like that, Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime 4. At £60 to £80 I will just ignore them. Same as a lot of 3rd party titles. I wouldn’t risk my hard earned cash on something that I’m not guaranteed to enjoy 100% like Octopath Traveller- looks like my sort of game but was a bit lacking to justify £65.

Plus there are games like Bayonetta and Xenoblade that I adore, but I know they will fail miserably if they launch at £65 as they are so niche. I get prices have to go up with greater workload and inflation, but that high cost of means every game has to be my ideal game ever, and I’m guessing for a lot of fans.

Imagine if McDonalds started making 15 dollar/12 quid burgers. Lots of people would complain that the thing they were used to wasn’t being aimed at them any more.

The burger may even be worth it, but it is alienating a huge customer base that they’ve built. I mean I’m going to buy a Switch 2, but you can see it isn’t going to be as popular as the Switch one, both with how many adopters and how many games they buy. Nintendo are naive if they didn’t expect some blowback/mockery for their decision.

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My point is Mario Kart World, DK Banaza etc… are exclusives for the Switch 2, but a lot of it’s library is going to be Switch games- including new titles Metroid Prime 4, Pokemon Legends Z-A, Rhythm Heaven, Tomadachi Life, probably the Yoshi’s Woolly World port, and likely more coming. I bet more people will play Tomadachi life on the Switch 2 than Welcome Tour. Nintendo isn’t just switching off the Switch 1, it’s just adding a higher tier of entry with the Switch 2 to play beefier games.

The Switch 2 is basically the physical equivalent of the NSO+. It’s just you have to pay £400 quid for entry plus games.

Basically the Switch 2 is actually a Pro version of the Switch 1 like the PS5 Pro is to the PS5, except it has exclusive games. I can imagine the Switch 1 still getting games into 2027 and perhaps beyond. I could see anything that doesn’t really need the power of the Switch 2 (remasters of old games, indies, less graphics intensive games) being Switch 1 games, possibly with an upgrade offered.

I can see myself being a lot more selective in choosing what games to buy for the Switch. I believe Mario Kart World probably is worth the money for me (hopefully I can get the bundle version), but I can see myself skipping those maybe games for me like Splatoon or Metroid Prime, or new titles or 3rd parties that I would have bought on the Switch.

When the first Switch launched there was only a few games to play, so we bought Snipperclips, 1 2 Switch, Bomberman and anything else to play as well as Zelda.

This time there is Mario Kart, but we’re also bringing our Switch 1 games. We aren’t going to be blindly spending out a tenner for things games like this.

You can see why Nintendo has Switch One games coming out in 2026, I’m guessing Nintendo will keep a supply of smaller games coming so they can point at them as a ‘budget option’ for families.

The Wii U, for all it’s faults, had a brilliant lineup of games.

I get the Financial situation and political climate is affecting Nintendo pricing, but this is just scummy.

I bought Kirby on the Switch for £42, and you can buy it now for between £20-£37. I think the Zelda games may have both cost me £45-£47. Money for old rope.

Pretty sure Nintendo have deleted the full 4 hour Treehouse livestream on YouTube with the drop the price chorus and put up separate videos for the games instead.

Nintendo have always told us they don’t swim in the red ocean, competing with graphics and power, fps and 4K gaming. They swim in the blue ocean innovating and making fun weird games for families and everyday gamers.

This machine is drowning in the red ocean.

The Switch 2 camera is the new HD Rumble.

From the trailer MKW looks like a mix of BOTW and MK8, so I wouldn't be willing to say it isn't worth the money, but it's the fact the upgraded switch games being a similar price is concerning. I couldn't see myself buying 3rd party games at that price, when a lot of the lineup is 5 years old and discounted on other systems.

At the end of the day, I still own a working Switch 1with a backlog, and don't need to rush to buy a new system until I feel I must have it and am going to get enough out of those pricey games.

The direct didn't really show it actually has any fun gameplay to it. They could have made it an NSO perk if they were determined not to give it for free.

I wonder how much they'll be asking for a five year old game?

Also, you can guess big games are around 50-60 gigabytes- internal storage of Switch 2 will hold 256gb, 256gb expansion card is about £80. Carts may still be the way to go.

By announcing it’s for a limited time when they did seems like they aren’t confident their preorders will sell out, and they are trying to build a bit of FOMO

I wonder if they expected the discourse to be as negative as it was out the gate?

I really have no interest in the communication button, I’ll stick to the Switch 1 pro controller and use my £80 for food or electric.

There’s the moment of the reveal that was so exciting… and now I think reality of all the caveats has poured a lot of cold water on the new normal.

Time to be more selective. I don't think this would stop me from buying the big games, but stuff like Hyrule Warriors or Mario Party would be not worth it for me any more.

Also it seems like Nintendo will be competing against physical retailers this time around.

Liked the look of MK and DK, but I don’t think I need to have this on day one. Lots of 3rd party, not much Nintendo.

Again, having a made up news day in the age of the Internet is a little redundant.

I'm currently playing Prince of Metroi- I mean Persia. A lovely and fun game.

Guess that may be the last time I care about Ubisoft! (Not that Assassin's Creed, Tom Clancy, or Far Cry was ever for me).

As someone who has been conditioned by Nintendo to not put too much importance into graphics over the quality of the games, I really don’t care about enhancing games I’ve just played on the last system. Nice option but not one I will use.

Nice to see the Switch is getting new games, none of which I really want to play.

However it perhaps bodes well for the Switch 2 Direct to be a couple of steps up on this.

The reason why I’ve found the PS5 so flat is because so many Japanese games have tried to copy Western game styles. FF7R and Astrobot are at least zany and fun.

If they add a 3rd person perspective mode I'd be interested in Metroid Prime. Otherwise meh.

UK, Europe, Canada, and the rest of the world don't have tariffs on Japanese products. It may cost more in the US, but that doesn't mean that will translate to sensible countries.

The base game is a lovely little gem when you play it on the PS5, but I think the performance on the Switch, the delays, and the pricey but short and inconsequential DLC has tarnished Eiyuden Chronicle Hundred Heroes. Even EC: Rising ‘Pre LC’ was irrelevant, where the story really had no bearing on the main game.

Playing the Suikoden Remaster has reminded me how engrossed I was with all those interwoven stories that captured my imagination. Eiyuden Chronicle has suffered by not knowing when to stop.

Marmite gaming. If you love them (I do), they’re all 10’s or 9’s. If you don’t I’m guessing you rank one of them low and haven’t played the rest.

Xbox has options. They can continue the console business, push the subscription service, go 3rd party, build a Steamdeck competitor…

…I just wonder why they are spending money on all of these options? Jack of all trades….

Two tins and a bit of string would be improved chat on the Switch.

Traditionally there is a problem and you design a technology to solve it.

Foldable screens is a tech that they're trying to invent a problem to solve, and one that makes the tech more likely to break implementing it.

Suikoden was a better game than Final Final Fantasy 7 then, and has aged far better now. And it didn't need 3 disks.

My favourite games ever, and probably the last games I will buy for the original Switch.

I get the feeling the video will just show why these games are so loved by its fans, and the only people who will watch it will be those fans.

I tend to think people like bitesize gaming on a handheld. Stuff like GTA6 is the sort of thing you play on a bigger screen for an afternoon, not just on a bus for 10 minutes. And for that you don't need a grand of machine.

Even if Nintendo only released a big 1st party exclusive every other month they would still be running rings around the other two’s output. I’d much prefer a great game every 3-4 months like Pikmin 4, FE 3 Houses, and Bayonetta 3 than a continuous supply of games like Sushi Striker, Mario Golf, and Mario vs DK.

Knowing Nintendo they’ll use 3DS remakes to supplement the regular full priced Switch 2 releases.

If I’m honest I’ve played all of these games too recently to feel pangs of nostalgia yet. I Missed out on a lot of GameCube and Wii games, but I was all in for the Wii U and 3DS.

You can sort of understand it. It's basically a discount on a new game in a time game development is more expensive, not to mention the threat of those tariffs for US sales. If it isn't financially viable then fairs fair.

The reason Nintendo’s IP is so valuable is because it’s managed by Nintendo, with a measure of restraint and logic of how they use it. Even the lesser games are of a level of quality that any o the developer would die for.

Meanwhile Crash Bandicoot….

Of course, it's traditional to have a Kirby port at the end of support for a Nintendo console.

Seeing Switch games will play on the Switch 2, it seems silly to make any less graphically intense games for only the Switch 2.

I’ve pretty much ruled out buying a PS5 Pro or PS6 at £600+. Realistically I will eventually buy a Switch two, but how soon is dependent on price and launch lineup. I would say £300-£400 is a good price to get me to bite straight away.

‘Acquire New Players’.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated into the EA play collective.

It will make a squillion dollars and 'fail to reach Square Enix's expectations'.

I don’t own an XBox, but if I did I think I’d be sick to death of Phil Spencer talking about how much he loves everyone else’s platforms when his own is apparently an afterthought.

Dragon Age was a bit of a mess, but I wonder how much the FIFA/FC name change has affected EA? Or perhaps the price increase and the add ons has made people think they don’t have to buy it every year?

EA needs to tap into the magic infinite player base with infinite wealth and infinite free time that live in makebelieveland.