MrGawain

Beyond how you feel about this or MKW, I just don’t understand why Nintendo would release them within 6 months of each other? It isn’t that curated balance of what the Switch 1’s lineup was released to compliment each other.

To be honest I don’t buy a Nintendo system for the usual western triple A gumph. Give me first party, Ace Attorney, Dragon Quest, Mega Man, Bayonetta, Okami 2, and another Suikoden and I’ll be happy.

I guess with all rumours and a less than optimistic reaction to recent announcements they had to reconfirm it was releasing this year.

Although if they were that confident they would have announced a release date….

Seeing how badly a lot of 3rd parties did at launch, I could see a few publishers holding back. Realistically the early adopters were core Nintendo fans who are as bothered with the western style 3rd parties (note this direct was mainly Japanese developers with a peppering of Ubisoft and EA), and might be waiting for a bigger customer base before throwing out their game to be ignored.

The majority of these games look good, I just have no desire to play any of them.

I’ve enjoyed these HD2D games in the past, but there is a point where they can go to the well once too often.

I’m susceptible to motion sickness in gaming. The first time I played DKB I had trouble with it, but I went into the options and slowed the camera speed down. Since then it’s improved 90%.

I’ve never really been a PC gamer. I bought the Monkey Island games on PC in the 2000’s, and found the faff of just getting them to play (and not crash) enough to put me off of PC gaming permanently.

I like the form factor of the Switch and Switch 2 where you stick the cartridge in and the game works, instead of being unsure if your device has enough RAM or a good enough graphics card to run the thing.

The jumping in the original game was terrible. That’s why Mario 64 is still heralded as a such a good game, because it did a far better job at moving in a 3D world. The reality is they did a wonderful job of recreating Crash, they just didn’t make it like we remember it was.

I think we’ve seen recently if tell people not to talk about something you don’t want them to talk about, they’re going to talk about it.

Reading some of the famous names lije Tom Holland being bandied about by the fans recently, I don't think people understand that the things they liked them in were 5 filmed years ago, and by the time this is filmed it will be another 3 odd years. Anyone famous will be too old by then. You need younger unknowns to fit the part, and possibly play them for 10 years.

It’s a 2D sprite game. It doesn’t need jaw dropping graphics.

Most Switch 1 games except 5-10 of the top level can be bought for less than £42 physicallyin the UK. And if we get the classics range like in US I'm guessing it will be even less.

Art is defined by the consumer, not the producer. If I go to an art gallery and they are showing an apple core in a bin as a work of genius, it’s down to me if it’s a load of old rubbish or the modern day Mona Lisa.

Microsoft Excel used to be bought with a one off payment. It was on a disk you could use on multiple PC's. Then it became a downloadable license for a single PC, then was a subscription service. This is the same direction the gaming industry is going.

There's part of me that aggrieved I can't use the copy of word I bought with my first PC and am expected to subscribe for it every year, but then I have to be realistic that these companies want you to pay for the new product every year. I don't think you can expect to use any product forever, but you expect a good run of 5 years to make it worthwhile. Perhaps there needs to be a guaranteed minimum life for online games promised on purchase.

At what point do you look at the bottomless pit you’re throwing your money into, seeing a bunch of companies you bought just to close, the 2 generations of consoles that very few people bought, and the subscription service you developed that has devalued your games and think: ‘maybe the guy we’ve got running this thing isn’t good at running a profitable business’?

If Nintendo were so confident the customer base would accept Key Cards, then they would have released their 1st party games on them.

Oddly enough they didn’t….

I’ve heard the EX memory cards are expected to drop in price around Christmas, so I’m not in any rush at the moment.

I’m guessing there’s a percentage correlation of budgets to how much a CEO receives.

I do not enjoy AI music.
I do not enjoy AI written literature.
I do not enjoy AI video content.

To me it’s that artificial cliche of what ‘perfection’ should be.

Will I like and purchase AI made games… hmm….

It’s a quick game to show how the mouse feature can be used. Maybe not for me.

Ask yourself: is it the consumer demanding 4K, 100 hour games? I doubt it’s the publishers. In my opinion it’s the developers that are making things hard for themselves by setting out too lofty goals.

But as we know, Nintendo isn’t competition to these two.

I’d prefer the 2 extra cores (25% of the 8) game chat uses to power the games.

I’m betting the advert for Donkey Kong Bananza got Mixed up with the one for MP4. Either that or it’s going to release on the 6th of November and the US way of figuring the date was confused with the UK one so the advertising company think it was released on the 10th of June and this was to be put up a week after release.

Is anyone surprised? Nintendo fans tend to buy 1st party, Indie, and ‘Nintendo Like’ games, these 3rd party games have been available elsewhere for some time, and were immediately ignored by Switch 2 purchasers because most of them were on Key Cards.

If you want an audience on Switch 2, then sell what your customers want.

Isn't it normal when CAPCOM have a direct they just show the trailers they've already released and the tiniest smidge of new information?

Some people think RDR2 is coming to Switch 2. Some think it's coming to the PS5. One person in Hull thinks they're porting it to the Commodore 64.

What a brilliant way of upsetting the Internet if their expectations don't come true.

Well Nintendo are certainly making a decision not to include Key Card games in the Download Only chart. And the Zelda upgrade packs for that matter.

I have no desire to voice chat. I accidentally pressed the button once and it asked for my phone number, which cemented I have no desire to voice chat. To me it added cost, took away processing power and memory, and doesn’t actually work when your handheld console is out away from Wi-Fi.

I’ll be curious to see if Nintendo has a game in the works that will try to validate a reason to use it beyond small talk.

Currently I’ve only played the Switch 2 on my TV. I’ve still got my original Switch to play games handheld. The 2 screen looks fine to me, but I’m not sure if I’ll be playing it handheld much just because I love seeing the grandness of MKW on the big telly.

Plus, I really didn’t want to pay any more than I did to play Nintendo games.

The 2024 ROG Ally was £800, you have to imagine this will be more.

The Switch 2 now seems to be a sensible price oddly.

Do we really need the 4K version of any falling block game?

Come to think of it does any falling block game need a story mode?

I’m waiting for my Switch 2 to arrive, but in the meantime I’ve been prepping some old consoles and games to sell on.

The Wii U still works, and I’m more excited about it than the Switch 2.

If customers don't buy them, they are likely to change their tune.

I’ve felt a lot better not worrying about preordering for the Switch 2 this time around. Maybe it’s less excitement this time because it’s just for MKW, but I’m happy not to have to worry about all the stress I have with console launches.

When there is stock, I’ll get one.

Even if I get a Switch 2 relatively quickly, I’m considering running them parallel, if only to save the memory on the Switch 2. I’m pretty sure I’ll be playing more Switch 1 games than Switch 2 games in the next year.

I’m starting to get a vision in my head of 2 people running two different sides of XBox, one approving every ridiculous idea, the other waiting until half way through development until they cancel it.

Sort of a corporate Chuckle Brothers.

If I’m honest I will buy a Switch 2 when I see one, but at the moment I’m only interested in MKW and DKB. Most of the third party offerings are the stuff I don’t play because they aren’t like Nintendo games. I think Nintendo could do with showing what’s coming in the next year 1st party wise to really get the fanbase excited.

A lot of historic gaming franchises are suffering from being the same idea but running worse than previous games.

A price increase is the perfect excuse to stop buying the product.

@Yosti

It’s great for people who don’t have access to the COD’s and GTA’s to be able to play them on the Switch 2, but they’ll never be the primary place people will play them because of graphical power and a handheld’s inherent disadvantage with online connections.

I would imagine most indie, family aimed and Japanese produced games are most popular on Nintendo.

I doubt that western COD/Assassin's Creed/GTA style games will ever be really the sort of games you play on the Switch 2.

The Launch reveal of the Switch 2 has been an absolute disaster. They’ve known their customer base would react badly to the gamecards, the prices, the shoddiness of gamechat, the hidden fine print like having to give your phone number to use gamechat, not addressing the joycon quality, and the vague messaging on what Switch 1 games will work on the system.

They’ve had 8 years of audience testing to come to these conclusions and refine the tech, and yet they’ve seemingly not really catered to their customers and just forced things in they want us to put up with.

Now the messaging is trying to fix the situation, assure customers, and telling their shareholders they expect selling the thing early on to be hard. It really does show Nintendo’s ability to blunder every other console.

Why would you stop playing the Switch on the hope of playing the Switch 2 in 3 weeks, when Mario Kart is the only 1st party game at launch, and pretty much all of the other games are available on other devices? I can get if you want to play one of the upgraded games fresh it makes sense, but I’m guessing a lot of people finished those games years ago.

If I get a Switch 2 at launch, I expect MKW and DKB will be the only games I will be playing on it through the summer, and it will have to be bolstered with Switch 1 games- so why not play the Switch 1 now?

I thought the problem was ‘quality’ games like FF7 didn’t reach sales expectations?

I mean, I loved FF7R, but I bet I could shave 20% off the budget by cutting some of the maps, dialogue, and pointless missions and get the same reviews.

@Michael0916

I can get streaming TV, sometimes 2 tv’s at the same time during the evening, but I really don’t really use my computer for work and have no need to spend more money on it.

Which is sort of the issue with the Switch 2 being more expensive in every aspect than the Switch 1.

Nintendo haven’t really cared about online, let alone voice chat. They’ve trained us it’s silly and now they’ve changed their tune.

Well I’m too old and stuck in my ways to interact with anyone that isn’t standing in person in front of me, and even then it’s just hassle.

The whole point of having a handheld is the feeling you can take a bunch of games with you either on cartridge or downloads on the go. The memory in the Switch 2 is pretty small for these games’ file sizes, and even just doubling that memory will cost about eighty quid. My internet is pretty slow (it took me 5 days to download 150gb of Jedi Survivor on the PS5), so I’ll be wary of deleting and re-downloading games.

It’s not just the price of the games I will consider, but if it’s worth the space they will take up on the Switch 2 memory.

It all comes down to if Nintendo wants another.

I hope they do, if only to right some of wrongs from 3. Cereza and the Lost Demon however was an awesome game.

Any company has the right to price any product the way it wants to.

And we have the right not to buy it.