All I see here in the UK is Switch 2 games getting price reductions, or new games being released at £50. Maybe Nintendo has figured out there is a cost line that people won’t/can’t cross?
In my opinion when games are exclusive, there is an element of commitment to quality, with time and money being spent to make sure God Of War or Mario Odyssey is a near perfect experience. The game is optimised for the platform it’s designed for.
Third party is more about hitting deadlines, and trying to force games onto platforms that aren’t capable of running them. I expect all of Microsoft’s developers to start cutting corners to start slapping their games on other systems.
The other end of 2025 games all come with Caveats. Pokemon was if it was repetitive, MP4 will be if it causes motion sickness, Kirby if it’s worth it for single player.
You can say Hyrule Warriors is a known quantity. Smash endless monsters whilst pretending the playable characters are really that different. I’ve played 3 of these Warriors games on Nintendo now, and aside from arguments about canon, they have all been pretty by the numbers.
I think I will wait until everything is out and reviewed until I decide my Christmas game. Maybe nothing this year?
I’m sure there is lots of simple, repetitive jobs that AI would be ideal to implement for, but they have to realise just because a technology is nifty, doesn’t mean it will fit in your product.
I mean Catapults are awesome, but no one’s ever thought about incorporating the technology into hospital beds.
I guess it’s great others companies are supporting the Switch, but if I was looking for those graphic intensive, heavy cutscene, multiplayer, grey, violent, dudebro games I would have bought an Xbox in the first place.
I get there trying to keep engagement, but I’m not entirely sure why they would release this one week after the Galaxy collection and one week before Pokemon. In all likelihood we are 3-4 years away from another Pikmin game.
I bought the 3D collection 5 years ago and enjoyed it, so I really don’t see the need to buy Galaxy 1 again for a smoother moustache on Mario.
I’m a lot more picky in what I buy day one these days, and I get the feeling I don’t really need to keep up with the Zeitgeist by purchasing a 15 year old Mario Galaxy 2 the day it rereleases.
I tend to think these awards aren’t for gaming as a whole, they’re done to reinforce a certain taste in gaming that prefers gritty cinematic storytelling.
Guessing Ghost Of Yotei wins because it’s that game that adults can pretend is art and not just time wasting stabbing bad guys.
@h3s I find the Ai summaries at the top of search results tend to be incorrect or downright lies 50% of the time. This spreads misinformation not just for you the user, but for everyone else. AI is also collating information so you don’t go to the websites that have made an effort to gather the information to save on giving them ad revenue. If those websites go away we will be left with untrustworthy AI as the font of all knowledge.
Of course price matters in a review. If it didn’t we would get ‘10 out of 10, must experience in your life otherwise you will be ignorant and unfulfilled. Costs a million pounds.’
A review is there to tell you if this thing is worth your money, and if there are better ways to spend it than on a 15 year old game. Personally I think they’re getting money for old rope.
The problem is developers want to make bigger, faster, prettier, more expensive games than we don't own physically, but a large percentage of the Nintendo audience doesn't want that.
A lot of people just want a bit of fun to distract them every so often like they played as a kid that they don't need a second mortgage for.
In general gaming (not just Nintendo) is more expensive, less exciting, more demanding of rights of the customer and less trustworthy with less guarantees.
I’ve already decided I won’t be buying another PlayStation again after a disappointing PS5, if Nintendo don’t improve the Switch 2 situation with a better deal for the customer I may give up on gaming altogether after this Gen, and I get the feeling it’s not just me.
I saw the listing on the eshop and it said 'ALREADY PURCHASED'. I haven't.
So I pressed the virtual card download button and it downloaded the original I bought for £7.99. I wonder if this will cause problems if the two games are confused?
I’d love to play MP4, but I have very bad motion sickness with first person games. Not entirely sure why they couldn’t have a 3rd person mode if they have it with the bike?
This feels a little bit rushed. I just finished the game and I don’t really want any more, especially if it’s just a time trial mode, and rather pricey.
Any business making something has to figure out the quality, distribution method and price of their product so they can make a financial return on their investment.
If the consumer doesn’t buy the product, none of this matters. If the key cards don’t sell Nintendo will have to come up with another way to sell games that their fan base is happy with.
To me it seems a fun but limited concept that probably could have benefited from being part of a compendium of games, perhaps with. Less graphics budget. Imagine if this was part of a Wii sports style package with mouse controlled tobogganing, rope bridge walking and window polishing.
As a core Nintendo fan there wasn’t any doubt I would buy the Switch 2 early, especially with the price around the world in the future being uncertain.
But I question if the pace of ‘Nintendo-esque’ games and the prices will slow sales for less than rabid fans.
The Wii U had some great games very few people played, so Nintendo ported almost all of them onto the Switch with some better performance and a bit of DLC, so they could be experienced by a larger audience. This is exactly what Nintendo is doing with these upgrades to the Switch 2.
The Wii U sold 13.5m machines.
The Switch sold 152m machines. There are very few people left who didn’t play these games already that would want to.
If they were- and that’s a big if- going to have a Mario game for 2025, to me the logical choice would be Mario Maker 3. Simpler than a 3D game, steeped in nostalgia, and perfect to push the Joycon mouse feature.
Beyond how you feel about this or MKW, I just don’t understand why Nintendo would release them within 6 months of each other? It isn’t that curated balance of what the Switch 1’s lineup was released to compliment each other.
To be honest I don’t buy a Nintendo system for the usual western triple A gumph. Give me first party, Ace Attorney, Dragon Quest, Mega Man, Bayonetta, Okami 2, and another Suikoden and I’ll be happy.
Seeing how badly a lot of 3rd parties did at launch, I could see a few publishers holding back. Realistically the early adopters were core Nintendo fans who are as bothered with the western style 3rd parties (note this direct was mainly Japanese developers with a peppering of Ubisoft and EA), and might be waiting for a bigger customer base before throwing out their game to be ignored.
I’m susceptible to motion sickness in gaming. The first time I played DKB I had trouble with it, but I went into the options and slowed the camera speed down. Since then it’s improved 90%.
I’ve never really been a PC gamer. I bought the Monkey Island games on PC in the 2000’s, and found the faff of just getting them to play (and not crash) enough to put me off of PC gaming permanently.
I like the form factor of the Switch and Switch 2 where you stick the cartridge in and the game works, instead of being unsure if your device has enough RAM or a good enough graphics card to run the thing.
The jumping in the original game was terrible. That’s why Mario 64 is still heralded as a such a good game, because it did a far better job at moving in a 3D world. The reality is they did a wonderful job of recreating Crash, they just didn’t make it like we remember it was.
Reading some of the famous names lije Tom Holland being bandied about by the fans recently, I don't think people understand that the things they liked them in were 5 filmed years ago, and by the time this is filmed it will be another 3 odd years. Anyone famous will be too old by then. You need younger unknowns to fit the part, and possibly play them for 10 years.
Most Switch 1 games except 5-10 of the top level can be bought for less than £42 physicallyin the UK. And if we get the classics range like in US I'm guessing it will be even less.
Art is defined by the consumer, not the producer. If I go to an art gallery and they are showing an apple core in a bin as a work of genius, it’s down to me if it’s a load of old rubbish or the modern day Mona Lisa.
Microsoft Excel used to be bought with a one off payment. It was on a disk you could use on multiple PC's. Then it became a downloadable license for a single PC, then was a subscription service. This is the same direction the gaming industry is going.
There's part of me that aggrieved I can't use the copy of word I bought with my first PC and am expected to subscribe for it every year, but then I have to be realistic that these companies want you to pay for the new product every year. I don't think you can expect to use any product forever, but you expect a good run of 5 years to make it worthwhile. Perhaps there needs to be a guaranteed minimum life for online games promised on purchase.
At what point do you look at the bottomless pit you’re throwing your money into, seeing a bunch of companies you bought just to close, the 2 generations of consoles that very few people bought, and the subscription service you developed that has devalued your games and think: ‘maybe the guy we’ve got running this thing isn’t good at running a profitable business’?
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Re: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Is Nintendo's Cheapest Switch 2 Edition Yet
All I see here in the UK is Switch 2 games getting price reductions, or new games being released at £50. Maybe Nintendo has figured out there is a cost line that people won’t/can’t cross?
Re: Microsoft On Its Gaming Business Going Forward: "We Want To Be Everywhere"
In my opinion when games are exclusive, there is an element of commitment to quality, with time and money being spent to make sure God Of War or Mario Odyssey is a near perfect experience. The game is optimised for the platform it’s designed for.
Third party is more about hitting deadlines, and trying to force games onto platforms that aren’t capable of running them. I expect all of Microsoft’s developers to start cutting corners to start slapping their games on other systems.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
The other end of 2025 games all come with Caveats. Pokemon was if it was repetitive, MP4 will be if it causes motion sickness, Kirby if it’s worth it for single player.
You can say Hyrule Warriors is a known quantity. Smash endless monsters whilst pretending the playable characters are really that different. I’ve played 3 of these Warriors games on Nintendo now, and aside from arguments about canon, they have all been pretty by the numbers.
I think I will wait until everything is out and reviewed until I decide my Christmas game. Maybe nothing this year?
Re: EA Staff Are Reportedly Less Than Happy With Their Much-Hyped AI "Helpers"
I’m sure there is lots of simple, repetitive jobs that AI would be ideal to implement for, but they have to realise just because a technology is nifty, doesn’t mean it will fit in your product.
I mean Catapults are awesome, but no one’s ever thought about incorporating the technology into hospital beds.
Re: Xbox Reiterates Its Support For Switch 2
I guess it’s great others companies are supporting the Switch, but if I was looking for those graphic intensive, heavy cutscene, multiplayer, grey, violent, dudebro games I would have bought an Xbox in the first place.
Re: Level-5 Announces Inazuma Eleven: Victory Road Broadcast: "Join Us As We Share The Latest Updates"
Originally announced as Ares 9 years ago.
Or 2.25 World Cups.
Re: Switch 2 Bundles Get A Surprise Price Drop At Select French Retailers
Stagflation: where things cost more from manufacturers, but aren’t selling so retailers have to charge and earn less.
Not anything to do with male deer and air compressors.
Re: Sorry, Nintendo's Recent Pikmin Videos Aren't Hinting At Something More
I get there trying to keep engagement, but I’m not entirely sure why they would release this one week after the Galaxy collection and one week before Pokemon. In all likelihood we are 3-4 years away from another Pikmin game.
Nintendo being Nintendo!
Re: Poll: Do You Think Nintendo's New Animated Short 'Close To You' Is Pikmin Related?
I think they're showing what you can create using Sora 2 AI.
Re: Nintendo Goes Full Pixar In Strange New Animated Short Film, 'Close To You'
Until we get a £30 baby amiibo we can’t speculate.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
I bought the 3D collection 5 years ago and enjoyed it, so I really don’t see the need to buy Galaxy 1 again for a smoother moustache on Mario.
I’m a lot more picky in what I buy day one these days, and I get the feeling I don’t really need to keep up with the Zeitgeist by purchasing a 15 year old Mario Galaxy 2 the day it rereleases.
Re: Mario Kart World And Donkey Kong Bananza Shortlisted For 'Console Game Of The Year'
I tend to think these awards aren’t for gaming as a whole, they’re done to reinforce a certain taste in gaming that prefers gritty cinematic storytelling.
Guessing Ghost Of Yotei wins because it’s that game that adults can pretend is art and not just time wasting stabbing bad guys.
Re: "OpenAI Is Trying To Get Sued" - Nintendo IP Floods Sora 2 Video Generation App
@h3s I find the Ai summaries at the top of search results tend to be incorrect or downright lies 50% of the time. This spreads misinformation not just for you the user, but for everyone else. AI is also collating information so you don’t go to the websites that have made an effort to gather the information to save on giving them ad revenue. If those websites go away we will be left with untrustworthy AI as the font of all knowledge.
Re: "OpenAI Is Trying To Get Sued" - Nintendo IP Floods Sora 2 Video Generation App
All AI has done is devalue everything. Internet Search Engines, Copyright Law, Art, Photographic Evidence, Job Security, Morality, and the Truth.
And yet our goverments are happy to sign away our rights thinking that businesses will use it responsibly for the good of mankind.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 On Switch
Of course price matters in a review. If it didn’t we would get ‘10 out of 10, must experience in your life otherwise you will be ignorant and unfulfilled. Costs a million pounds.’
A review is there to tell you if this thing is worth your money, and if there are better ways to spend it than on a 15 year old game. Personally I think they’re getting money for old rope.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Director Highlights The Speed Problem With Switch 2 Game Cards
The problem is developers want to make bigger, faster, prettier, more expensive games than we don't own physically, but a large percentage of the Nintendo audience doesn't want that.
A lot of people just want a bit of fun to distract them every so often like they played as a kid that they don't need a second mortgage for.
Re: "It Was A Bit Of A Perplexing Experience" - Hideki Kamiya On The Fan Reaction To Bayonetta 3
There is something magical about the gameplay of Bayonetta 1 & 2. When you get it, it’s a graceful ballet of destruction.
Controlling Viola makes you feel like you’re wearing concrete clogs in swamp. Plus she’s very whiny and doesn’t fit the previous games’ feel.
Re: Nintendo Is "Acting To Protect The Industry" With Switch 2 Game Key Cards, Says Ex-Capcom Composer
In general gaming (not just Nintendo) is more expensive, less exciting, more demanding of rights of the customer and less trustworthy with less guarantees.
I’ve already decided I won’t be buying another PlayStation again after a disappointing PS5, if Nintendo don’t improve the Switch 2 situation with a better deal for the customer I may give up on gaming altogether after this Gen, and I get the feeling it’s not just me.
Re: Nintendo Releasing Physical 'Talking Flower' From Mario Wonder Next Spring
The only reason they’re brave enough to make this tat is because it’s more than likely in the movie.
Re: The Entire Final Fantasy VII Remake Trilogy Is Making Its Way To Switch 2
I saw the listing on the eshop and it said 'ALREADY PURCHASED'. I haven't.
So I pressed the virtual card download button and it downloaded the original I bought for £7.99. I wonder if this will cause problems if the two games are confused?
Re: Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave Charges Onto Switch 2 In 2026
This was the game that made up for a bunch of re-releases, rehashes and replay it again with DLC games. Might be the next time I buy a Nintendo game.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Finally Gets A Release Date, Open World Confirmed
I’d love to play MP4, but I have very bad motion sickness with first person games. Not entirely sure why they couldn’t have a 3rd person mode if they have it with the bike?
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
This feels a little bit rushed. I just finished the game and I don’t really want any more, especially if it’s just a time trial mode, and rather pricey.
Re: Ubisoft Employee Explains Why Star Wars Outlaws Is A Game-Key Card
Any business making something has to figure out the quality, distribution method and price of their product so they can make a financial return on their investment.
If the consumer doesn’t buy the product, none of this matters. If the key cards don’t sell Nintendo will have to come up with another way to sell games that their fan base is happy with.
Re: Talking Point: Would Drag x Drive Be Better With Miis Or Non-Mouse Control Options?
To me it seems a fun but limited concept that probably could have benefited from being part of a compendium of games, perhaps with. Less graphics budget. Imagine if this was part of a Wii sports style package with mouse controlled tobogganing, rope bridge walking and window polishing.
Re: Switch 2 Sales In The US Are Outpacing The Original Console By 75%
As a core Nintendo fan there wasn’t any doubt I would buy the Switch 2 early, especially with the price around the world in the future being uncertain.
But I question if the pace of ‘Nintendo-esque’ games and the prices will slow sales for less than rabid fans.
Re: Review: Kirby And The Forgotten Land - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World - Kirby's Best Shines Even Brighter
The Wii U had some great games very few people played, so Nintendo ported almost all of them onto the Switch with some better performance and a bit of DLC, so they could be experienced by a larger audience. This is exactly what Nintendo is doing with these upgrades to the Switch 2.
The Wii U sold 13.5m machines.
The Switch sold 152m machines. There are very few people left who didn’t play these games already that would want to.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct Is Reportedly Coming Ahead Of Mario's 40th Anniversary
If they were- and that’s a big if- going to have a Mario game for 2025, to me the logical choice would be Mario Maker 3. Simpler than a 3D game, steeped in nostalgia, and perfect to push the Joycon mouse feature.
Re: Opinion: We Need To Talk About X Games
I’ve spoken to the Video Games naming board and they agree ‘X’ is overused.
From now on they plan to replace it with ‘P’ instead.
Re: Kirby Air Riders Zooms Onto Switch 2 This November
Beyond how you feel about this or MKW, I just don’t understand why Nintendo would release them within 6 months of each other? It isn’t that curated balance of what the Switch 1’s lineup was released to compliment each other.
Re: Feature: 32 Games We're Dying To See On Switch 2
To be honest I don’t buy a Nintendo system for the usual western triple A gumph. Give me first party, Ace Attorney, Dragon Quest, Mega Man, Bayonetta, Okami 2, and another Suikoden and I’ll be happy.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Playable At Fan Expo Canada This Month
I guess with all rumours and a less than optimistic reaction to recent announcements they had to reconfirm it was releasing this year.
Although if they were that confident they would have announced a release date….
Re: Rumour: Three Games Were Pulled From Nintendo's Direct Partner Showcase, According To Veteran Games Journalist
Seeing how badly a lot of 3rd parties did at launch, I could see a few publishers holding back. Realistically the early adopters were core Nintendo fans who are as bothered with the western style 3rd parties (note this direct was mainly Japanese developers with a peppering of Ubisoft and EA), and might be waiting for a bigger customer base before throwing out their game to be ignored.
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase July 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
The majority of these games look good, I just have no desire to play any of them.
Re: Square Enix Is Bringing A Brand New HD-2D RPG To Switch 2 Next Year
I’ve enjoyed these HD2D games in the past, but there is a point where they can go to the well once too often.
Re: Poll: Has Donkey Kong Bananza Made You Feel Ill?
I’m susceptible to motion sickness in gaming. The first time I played DKB I had trouble with it, but I went into the options and slowed the camera speed down. Since then it’s improved 90%.
Re: Video: Switch 2 Vs. Steam Deck System Face-Off, Digital Foundry Investigates
I’ve never really been a PC gamer. I bought the Monkey Island games on PC in the 2000’s, and found the faff of just getting them to play (and not crash) enough to put me off of PC gaming permanently.
I like the form factor of the Switch and Switch 2 where you stick the cartridge in and the game works, instead of being unsure if your device has enough RAM or a good enough graphics card to run the thing.
Re: Crash Bandicoot Co-Creator Believes The Remakes "Botched" The Jump Mechanics
The jumping in the original game was terrible. That’s why Mario 64 is still heralded as a such a good game, because it did a far better job at moving in a 3D world. The reality is they did a wonderful job of recreating Crash, they just didn’t make it like we remember it was.
Re: Nintendo Still Doesn't Want You To Talk About The Switch Online Playtest Program
I think we’ve seen recently if tell people not to talk about something you don’t want them to talk about, they’re going to talk about it.
Re: Nintendo Announces First Cast Members For The Legend Of Zelda Movie
Reading some of the famous names lije Tom Holland being bandied about by the fans recently, I don't think people understand that the things they liked them in were 5 filmed years ago, and by the time this is filmed it will be another 3 odd years. Anyone famous will be too old by then. You need younger unknowns to fit the part, and possibly play them for 10 years.
Re: Square Enix Rules Out Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
It’s a 2D sprite game. It doesn’t need jaw dropping graphics.
Re: Nintendo Will Discontinue Switch Game Vouchers Entirely In 2026
Most Switch 1 games except 5-10 of the top level can be bought for less than £42 physicallyin the UK. And if we get the classics range like in US I'm guessing it will be even less.
Re: Miyamoto Views Games As 'Products', Not 'Works Of Art', Says Ex-Nintendo Dev
Art is defined by the consumer, not the producer. If I go to an art gallery and they are showing an apple core in a bin as a work of genius, it’s down to me if it’s a load of old rubbish or the modern day Mona Lisa.
Re: "It Will Have A Chilling Effect On Game Design" - EU Group Responds To 'Stop Killing Games'
Microsoft Excel used to be bought with a one off payment. It was on a disk you could use on multiple PC's. Then it became a downloadable license for a single PC, then was a subscription service. This is the same direction the gaming industry is going.
There's part of me that aggrieved I can't use the copy of word I bought with my first PC and am expected to subscribe for it every year, but then I have to be realistic that these companies want you to pay for the new product every year. I don't think you can expect to use any product forever, but you expect a good run of 5 years to make it worthwhile. Perhaps there needs to be a guaranteed minimum life for online games promised on purchase.
Re: Microsoft Announces Second Wave Of Layoffs, Over 9,000 Jobs Affected
At what point do you look at the bottomless pit you’re throwing your money into, seeing a bunch of companies you bought just to close, the 2 generations of consoles that very few people bought, and the subscription service you developed that has devalued your games and think: ‘maybe the guy we’ve got running this thing isn’t good at running a profitable business’?
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
If Nintendo were so confident the customer base would accept Key Cards, then they would have released their 1st party games on them.
Oddly enough they didn’t….
Re: Struggling For Switch 2 Storage? TeamGroup Launches A Range Of Micro SD Express Cards For The Console
I’ve heard the EX memory cards are expected to drop in price around Christmas, so I’m not in any rush at the moment.
Re: EA Worker Pay Continues To Dwindle As CEO Picks Up $5 Million Bonus, Thus Creating Amusingly Tall Financial Graph
I’m guessing there’s a percentage correlation of budgets to how much a CEO receives.
Re: Level-5 CEO Sees AI As 'Tool For Communication And Efficiency Improvement'
I do not enjoy AI music.
I do not enjoy AI written literature.
I do not enjoy AI video content.
To me it’s that artificial cliche of what ‘perfection’ should be.
Will I like and purchase AI made games… hmm….
Re: Drag X Drive Switch 2 eShop Price Revealed
It’s a quick game to show how the mouse feature can be used. Maybe not for me.