Yeah, the "always maybe" comment is bs. They've talked up how great it was running on WiiU and how it would be a showcase for the hardware. Never did they make it sound like it wasn't coming other than it would be later than the other versions.
My buddy had a demo version his Mom was sent from NOA to be put out for display purposes just before the game got cancelled. I wonder how complete that version was.
The Mom of a buddy of mine used to work for Nintendo and the game went so far along that they had copies sent to all the merchandisers to be put out in store displays before they pulled the plug. We got to try it out at his house one time, it was pretty awesome.
@Artwark Regardless, on the Kickstarter page they say they're using UE4 so that precludes the WiiU, unless something special happens. They're already nearing 1.2 million now. If that supposed "basement" is hit, and there's only ground floor and then ground left, maybe they'll come up with something else. Until then, UE4 is not on Nintendo consoles so don't hold your breath (I wanted it on the WiiU badly.)
I didn't like the concept of the demo at all. I couldn't be around, nor did I want to be around, for the small windows the game worked. Probably a great idea to test server stability really, but didn't fit into my lifestyle/schedule at all.
Wow, very cool collection he has. Something I noticed while watching the clips of Shinobi. As he was talking about simplicity of gameplay there's another factor that seems left out. It's a sort of uniform grace to how they play as well. A lot of modern games mimic the look of some of the classics but they forget about getting the feel down. That classy feel that made the old games feel right. A lot of times games look good but just don't feel like a lot of fun.
@Grumblevolcano Be glad you even have the option of swapping out memory cards on a New 3DS. As a North American I'd happily swap the cards if they'd bother selling me the damn system.
I think the Rogue Squadron games would probably be MASSIVELY challenging to remake. Given the pedigree of the programmers involved there was a ton of very nuanced, hardware specific nitty-gritty tricks used to drag every ounce of power from the GC. You'd have to pretty much redo all of that for the WiiU, that would be practically a full rewrite.
I've been wanting some shmups on the WiiU since it was released, unfortunately this is also being made for Phones so the gameplay will be lacking to fit those formats.
While it's nice they're putting this on WiiU, it sounds EXACTLY like what Harmonix said about bringing back Rock Band... only this is a month and a half too late.
I'm kind of surprised they've never included a Wind Waker Gannondorf. With his dual swords he would play a lot different from the regular version. Or even a straight up Pig-Man Gannon instead, the trident would also make for a different type of fighter.
I've honestly never been a fan of the Streets of Rage games but in the absence of ANY SNES games on the 3DS, to say nothing of having something converted to 3D, I'll be buying this just to support Sega for actually doing it.
I don't really see anything in these videos the WiiU couldn't handle. But for the love of God, please let me change the controls on the WiiU version. The choice for attacking on ZR instead of regular R is TERRIBLE! I can reconfigure the controls how I see fit on the PC version, why not the WiiU?
@BLPs Actually, this is a smart move. I was just talking to a 26 year old female friend of mine last night who owns a Wii and DS, she doesn't really play console games anymore (though she did play the new South Park game on PC when it came out last year.) When I told her Nintendo was going to start making App games her face lit up, she wants to play more of their stuff. So this is a smart way to hook people back in.
@Quorthon @JaxonH Blah, blah blah. What Nintendo needs is more power, they gave it to you. Oh, no but it what it really needed was power in some other weird form factor and people not pissed off.
You'll find any damn excuse to explain why you hate Nintendo. They've had year after year of people disliking them for one reason or another. By your logic they will NEVER be able to make good again. Even if they released a super powerful console they already have way too many people burned for it to matter.
@Peach64 Really? That's all they did? Analog sticks, rumble packs. Nintendo added lots of little things all the way. The Cube was the only one where they went all-in on being powerful with no other upgrades and they got left behind for the weaker, massive-pain-to-program-for PS2.
As I said in a previous post, I think it's good. DeNA helping them with a backbone for their system, unified accounts that will no doubt help with the console business as well as tying into mobile and to help understand the mobile market, which is new to Nintendo. Nintendo will have a chance to release smaller games, with both their biggest franchises and potentially smaller, and drum up awareness and fandoms for both larger and smaller projects. That could, theoretically, lead to we console gamers seeing more of the smaller titles appear back on handheld and console as the potential for larger fandoms is increased via mobile marketing.
And you know Nintendo is going to start making use of second screen and additional meta-gaming via the phone for the larger console releases. Again, which should work better since DeNA is helping with the backbone.
To be perfectly honest I do not see how any of these announcements means Nintendo is taking a radical shift or that the future will be that much different. Think about Sony and Microsoft, they have MASSIVE consoles, and Sony has a relatively decent hand held. But that's it. Nintendo, adding their IP to a phone, can now make fans of theirs on a third tier that Sony and Microsoft simply can't, because they aren't inherently software businesses (barring the whole PC thing with Microsoft.) Nintendo can have a home console, and hand held and now some super cheap marketing with all of their IP's on another open system. Plus they can start incorporating features from the phones into their games as well, if they want to. It's a good way to have another hook. Other than that, normalizing the innards in their console and handheld is a good idea because companies no longer have to rely on a single middleware to get things done, they can write their own engines for the systems and port the games between the two with relative ease. It also means their infrastructure can remain the same across all of the disparate platforms.
What they can also do is try out smaller mobile games for some of their lesser known titles and gauge interest. Maybe if those titles and popular they can hook new fans and end up bringing more full experiences to the handhelds and consoles too?
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Re: ​Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night Gets a Wii U Stretch Goal
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Re: Humble Nindie Bundle Allows Wii U and 3DS eShop Gamers in North America to Pay What They Want
Cool, I guess, except I already own all of them.
Re: Exclusive: Slightly Mad Studio Head Ian Bell Sets The Record Straight On Project CARS Wii U
Yeah, the "always maybe" comment is bs. They've talked up how great it was running on WiiU and how it would be a showcase for the hardware. Never did they make it sound like it wasn't coming other than it would be later than the other versions.
Re: Little Devil Inside is Close to Bringing Its Adventure to Wii U
The graphics style is certainly amazing.
Re: A Totally Complete Version Of Star Fox 2 Really Does Exist
My buddy had a demo version his Mom was sent from NOA to be put out for display purposes just before the game got cancelled. I wonder how complete that version was.
Re: Feature: The Full Story Behind Star Fox 2, Nintendo's Most Famous Cancellation
The Mom of a buddy of mine used to work for Nintendo and the game went so far along that they had copies sent to all the merchandisers to be put out in store displays before they pulled the plug. We got to try it out at his house one time, it was pretty awesome.
Re: Capcom's Spring Sale Offers Up Six eShop Discounts in North America
Hmm, maybe I'll buy SSF4 again just to have it on my memory card instead.
Re: Review: High Strangeness (Wii U eShop)
I was worried that bit swapping thing was little more than a gimmick and it sounds like I was right.
Re: Newly Confirmed Guitar Hero Live Tracks Bring The Spandex And Poodle Perms
Too bad Guitar Hero was always the worse game.
Re: Former Castlevania Producer Koji Igarashi's Kickstarter Launches, But Won't Come To Nintendo Consoles
@Artwark Regardless, on the Kickstarter page they say they're using UE4 so that precludes the WiiU, unless something special happens. They're already nearing 1.2 million now. If that supposed "basement" is hit, and there's only ground floor and then ground left, maybe they'll come up with something else. Until then, UE4 is not on Nintendo consoles so don't hold your breath (I wanted it on the WiiU badly.)
Re: Former Castlevania Producer Koji Igarashi's Kickstarter Launches, But Won't Come To Nintendo Consoles
It'll never be ported to Nintendo hardware. It's an Unreal Engine 4 game.
Re: Poll: Did The Splatoon Global Testfire Hit Its Targets?
I didn't like the concept of the demo at all. I couldn't be around, nor did I want to be around, for the small windows the game worked. Probably a great idea to test server stability really, but didn't fit into my lifestyle/schedule at all.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Hit The $1 Million Point Faster Than Any Other Game In The History Of Kickstarter
Wow, there's a lot of faith in these guys. Better make it AAAA for that kind of money.
Re: Video: Step Inside Classic Home Video Games Author Brett Weiss' Room of Doom
Wow, very cool collection he has. Something I noticed while watching the clips of Shinobi. As he was talking about simplicity of gameplay there's another factor that seems left out. It's a sort of uniform grace to how they play as well. A lot of modern games mimic the look of some of the classics but they forget about getting the feel down. That classy feel that made the old games feel right. A lot of times games look good but just don't feel like a lot of fun.
Re: Three New Nintendo 3DS Bundles Heading to Europe on 26th June
@Grumblevolcano
Be glad you even have the option of swapping out memory cards on a New 3DS. As a North American I'd happily swap the cards if they'd bother selling me the damn system.
Re: Weirdness: Mayweather vs Pacquiao Gets the Punch-Out!! Treatment, Again
Maybe people should watch women's boxing. Layla MacCarter can lay them female dogs out.
Re: Funk of Titans Aims to Teach "Jive-Turkey Pagan Titans" Some New Beats
Everything about this is brilliant but it's just a crappy runner.
Re: Video: Even The Credits Sequence For 3D Streets Of Rage 2 Is Awesome
That guy was bipbopbup in a manhole to Blaze...
Re: Digital Foundry Assesses The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD and More GameCube HD Remake Possibilities
I think the Rogue Squadron games would probably be MASSIVELY challenging to remake. Given the pedigree of the programmers involved there was a ton of very nuanced, hardware specific nitty-gritty tricks used to drag every ounce of power from the GC. You'd have to pretty much redo all of that for the WiiU, that would be practically a full rewrite.
Re: Karous -The Beast of Re:Eden- is a 3D Vertically Scrolling Shoot 'em Up Blasting the 3DS This Week in North America
Would be nice if that video wasn't a Japanese commercial, i.e., nothing that actually shows gameplay.
Re: ​Mario Kart 8's 200cc Mode Has Apparently Negated Firehopping
How do we access 200cc?
Re: Gallery: Feast Your Eyes On FullBlast, An Old School Vertical Shooter For The Wii U
I've been wanting some shmups on the WiiU since it was released, unfortunately this is also being made for Phones so the gameplay will be lacking to fit those formats.
Re: Video: Go Beyond The Beards With This Behind The Scenes Look At Guitar Hero Live
While it's nice they're putting this on WiiU, it sounds EXACTLY like what Harmonix said about bringing back Rock Band... only this is a month and a half too late.
Re: Rumour: More Super Smash Bros. Code Digging Points to Five Planned DLC Characters and Seven Stages
I'm kind of surprised they've never included a Wind Waker Gannondorf. With his dual swords he would play a lot different from the regular version. Or even a straight up Pig-Man Gannon instead, the trident would also make for a different type of fighter.
Re: Take on 3D Streets of Rage 2 With a Pal
I've honestly never been a fan of the Streets of Rage games but in the absence of ANY SNES games on the 3DS, to say nothing of having something converted to 3D, I'll be buying this just to support Sega for actually doing it.
Re: Super Doomed'n Damned to Channel Retro Capcom Action on Wii U This Year
I can't say I care for the graphic style presented here.
Re: Video: Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power is Shaping Up Rather Nicely
I don't really see anything in these videos the WiiU couldn't handle. But for the love of God, please let me change the controls on the WiiU version. The choice for attacking on ZR instead of regular R is TERRIBLE! I can reconfigure the controls how I see fit on the PC version, why not the WiiU?
Re: Lego Dimensions Will Feature Lord Of The Rings, Batman, Back To The Future And Much More Besides
@Dipper723 One can hope.
Re: Gallery: Fresh Xenoblade Chronicles X Footage, Screens and Concept Art Arrive
All of the gameplay makes this look like Monster Hunter Sci-Fi.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reckons "It Would Be Cool" if Rare's Banjo Was Voted in as Super Smash Bros. DLC
I voted for Bootsy Collins... I probably should have voted for Simon Belmont though.
Re: Video: Bask in the Glow of These Live Performances from the Xenoblade Chronicles 3D Soundtrack
That main theme. Damn, Violins always get me.
Oh the other hand, I find pretty much anything Rock related Japan makes is generic and never works.
Re: Wii U eShop Exclusive psyscrolr Heading to North America on 2nd April
Jesus, that's some BAD voice acting.
Gameplay doesn't appear very satisfying to me, and I'm a HUGE fan of 2D sidescrollers.
Re: The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set for 2015 Release
Not coming out in 2015 already really sucks, no E3 showing is A REALLY BAD IDEA ALL AROUND.
Re: Satoru Iwata Defends Timing of DeNA Deal, Teases Smart Device and Console Links in Club Nintendo Replacement
@BLPs Actually, this is a smart move. I was just talking to a 26 year old female friend of mine last night who owns a Wii and DS, she doesn't really play console games anymore (though she did play the new South Park game on PC when it came out last year.) When I told her Nintendo was going to start making App games her face lit up, she wants to play more of their stuff. So this is a smart way to hook people back in.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@Quorthon We were talking about the Gamecube.
Don't accuse me of nonsense when you lack the ability to remember or refer back too my original post.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@Quorthon I didn't say anything about the Wii or the WiiU.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@JaxonH Sorry, wrong post.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@Quorthon @JaxonH Blah, blah blah. What Nintendo needs is more power, they gave it to you. Oh, no but it what it really needed was power in some other weird form factor and people not pissed off.
You'll find any damn excuse to explain why you hate Nintendo. They've had year after year of people disliking them for one reason or another. By your logic they will NEVER be able to make good again. Even if they released a super powerful console they already have way too many people burned for it to matter.
Re: Standard-Sized New Nintendo 3DS Photos Emerge On FCC Website in North America
@KnightRider666 Those of us who don't have giant hands and don't want to hold a heavy thing with giant, blown out pixels. That's who.
Re: Standard-Sized New Nintendo 3DS Photos Emerge On FCC Website in North America
Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuu! I thought this would be confirmation of a regular sized relese.
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
Whoops
Re: Iwata: Nintendo NX Will Surprise People And Change Their Video Gaming Lives
@Peach64 Really? That's all they did? Analog sticks, rumble packs. Nintendo added lots of little things all the way. The Cube was the only one where they went all-in on being powerful with no other upgrades and they got left behind for the weaker, massive-pain-to-program-for PS2.
Re: Elliot Quest Developer Talks About a 3DS Port
I think it would look great on the 3DS, especially with the 3D.
Re: Review: Elliot Quest (Wii U eShop)
I've been enjoying this game so far. Though I think it would work better, or sell better, as a 3DS title.
Re: Mysterious Murasame Castle's Takamaru Was Considered For Super Smash Bros.
Sounds like Takamaru is perfect for dlc.
Re: Poll: Where Do You Stand On DeNA, Smart Device Games, Nintendo 'Membership' And The Nintendo NX?
As I said in a previous post, I think it's good. DeNA helping them with a backbone for their system, unified accounts that will no doubt help with the console business as well as tying into mobile and to help understand the mobile market, which is new to Nintendo. Nintendo will have a chance to release smaller games, with both their biggest franchises and potentially smaller, and drum up awareness and fandoms for both larger and smaller projects. That could, theoretically, lead to we console gamers seeing more of the smaller titles appear back on handheld and console as the potential for larger fandoms is increased via mobile marketing.
And you know Nintendo is going to start making use of second screen and additional meta-gaming via the phone for the larger console releases. Again, which should work better since DeNA is helping with the backbone.
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Exploit Makes Japanese Systems Region-Free
@retro_player_22 Because you'd want to play your games on a smaller, more comfortable system with a screen that isn't so giant and blown out.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Heading For a Period of Major Change, and We Can't Fight It
To be perfectly honest I do not see how any of these announcements means Nintendo is taking a radical shift or that the future will be that much different. Think about Sony and Microsoft, they have MASSIVE consoles, and Sony has a relatively decent hand held. But that's it. Nintendo, adding their IP to a phone, can now make fans of theirs on a third tier that Sony and Microsoft simply can't, because they aren't inherently software businesses (barring the whole PC thing with Microsoft.) Nintendo can have a home console, and hand held and now some super cheap marketing with all of their IP's on another open system. Plus they can start incorporating features from the phones into their games as well, if they want to. It's a good way to have another hook. Other than that, normalizing the innards in their console and handheld is a good idea because companies no longer have to rely on a single middleware to get things done, they can write their own engines for the systems and port the games between the two with relative ease. It also means their infrastructure can remain the same across all of the disparate platforms.
What they can also do is try out smaller mobile games for some of their lesser known titles and gauge interest. Maybe if those titles and popular they can hook new fans and end up bringing more full experiences to the handhelds and consoles too?
Re: Video: Here's How Long Mugen Power's New Nintendo 3DS Extended Batteries Last
If I could buy a regular New 3DS I'd totally down with that new Battery. The added Thickness on the original 3DS was quite welcome.
Re: Video: Nintendo Star Makes Brief Cameo Appearance in Pixels Movie Teaser
@outburst
Not every Adam Sandler movie is bad, just every Adam Sandler movie released after the 90's.