
With the Wii U now roughly 2.5 years old, and Nintendo busy - along with a select few partners - keeping its retail library ticking over, it's entirely possible that low-maintenance options will have already been considered for 'easy wins' on the system. The 3DS has had its share of remakes, for example, though the Wii U - to date - has mainly delivered new games.
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD is, however, a bit of an exception, and no doubt played a useful role for Nintendo in filling a release window gap and helping some of the company's developers to learn about working in HD.
This weekend's Digital Foundry article looks at the work that Nintendo, and partners, did with Wind Waker HD. With a look at graphical changes, gameplay tweaks and overall performance, the assessment is generally very positive, with the only notable criticism being dips in framerate. That aside, the title is declared to be "one of the better HD remasters on the market today".
Ultimately, Wind Waker HD is still a success story and one of the better HD remasters on the market today. Beautifully enhanced visuals, great image quality, and a host of gameplay improvements make for a definitive release. Sure, one can attempt to approximate the experience using an emulator but it will never feel quite as polished as this Wii U incarnation. Anyone with an interest in Zelda would do well to check it out, if you haven't already.
The article goes on, however, to look at other GameCube titles that could be a good fit - for multiple reasons - to get the HD remaster treatment; some fan favourites are considered, including Super Mario Sunshine and Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader.
What's interesting is the assessment that Nintendo could effectively outsource GameCube HD remasters, with Osaka-based HexaDrive highlighted as ideal partners. HexaDrive actually provided some assistance with Wind Waker HD and is highly regarded for a number of its remasters, with one example being Okami HD during the last generation. The article argues that Nintendo and HexaDrive, with a relationship in place and the latter's expertise and track record, could turn around high quality titles for the Wii U.
While we're looking at the possibilities of new HD remasters it's impossible not to discuss one of the true masters of this art - HexaDrive. With Nintendo already tied up with other projects, this remarkable little studio situated in the middle of Osaka seems like a perfect fit. After all, this team already has a connection with Nintendo thanks to Wind Waker HD, where it served as a technical liaison between Nintendo and Imagica Digitalscape for implementing high resolution textures into the game. This connection combined with its past works certainly positions HexaDrive nicely for these projects.
As it stands, the works created by both HexaDrive and Nintendo stand as some of the best examples of remastering in the game industry today. Both companies treat the source material with a reverence that few other developers can match. We'd love to see the two collaborate again on remastering classic GameCube titles for a new generation. There's a lot of potential hiding within the purple cube's library that seems ripe for this sort of treatment.
It's certainly worth reading the whole article, which also includes a range of comparison videos. It's not the first time anyone's mused about the potential delights of GameCube HD remasters, but it certainly goes into great detail.
Would you like to see more HD remasters from the GameCube library in the coming years?
[source eurogamer.net]
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Twin Snakes HD. There I said it.
I'm all for a Super Mario Sunshine remake... just make the game less broken.
Remakes make happy
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door HD.
I honestly have expected more HD remakes to pad out the Wii U's release schedule. I wouldn't be opposed splurging on decent remakes either.
That said, I would love to see more virtual console games too.
Something tells me that the big N is likely making another HD version of a GameCube classic game as we speak. And because of both the unique gameplay s and because the settings would look awesome in HD, here's hoping it's either Mario Sunshine or Luigis Mansion. Two words... E3.
Pls no more remakes.
Pls no more articles on hypothetical remakes.
Mother 3 HD
Remakes have taken over the entire gaming industry!
No more remakes, I'd much rather see more expansive DLC for existing games like what Nintendo has done for Mario Kart 8.
Baten Kaitos
(Really there are dozens of Cube titles I'd love to see get HD'd, but BK is #1 on my list)
Mother 3 localized
@DreamOn
That pun was so lame, it remakes me throw up.
@VeeFlamesNL
Also, a few extra stages for more variety. Maybe an icy one for good measure.
I love remakes. Gives me a good reason to play through great games again. Usually they look/play better than the original version, too. That isn't to say the originals aren't great, but playing them with new visuals and/or features is a big bonus. As long as remakes aren't being released INSTEAD of new games, I see no problem.
Id love to see Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart Double Dash, and Luigi's Mansion for an Hd Remake!
If they can outsource the production of the remakes, why the heck not! Fill out the library with both old and new titles. Mario Sunshine is first on my list. Please fix that camera though.
F-ZERO GX HD
F-ZERO GX HD
It's been said many times, but Super Mario Sunshine HD would be great. The game honestly feels a bit rushed in some ways, and has too many "filler" Shines. But it's brilliant in so many ways, and with an HD remake they could smooth out those rough spots.
I have no objection to Nintendo remakes since they generally go 2 generations back and not just remake recent last-gen stuff. Having said that I hope they don't go overkill on it if they are planning to.
My wish list for GameCube remakes include eternal darkness, Geist, Zelda four swords adventures, and Mario sunshine.
That framerate problem is not good enough. It is a smaller issue playing on the Gamecube connected to a CRT.
I never liked it to start with but I was thinking of trying it again and I am glad I didn't.
@AlexSora89 pun?
last time i played on my gamecube again and the screen was very blury... the gamecube generation deserves a hd remake
there are so many hd remakes i want to see like
paper mario: thousand year door
luigis mansion.
super mario sunshine
starfox adventure
zelda: twilight pincess
etc
Super Mario Sunshine would make an excellent title for remastering within HD. It doesn't have terribly dated graphics or gameplay and remains a popular addition to the series.
My only hope is that they would expand the latter part of the game, which desperately lacks story, side-missions and (most glaringly) another location to explore.
Super Mario Sunshine please! That will satisfy my purchase of the Wii U!
I suspect licensing would be an issue for Roque Squadron II now. I'd love to see it happen though along with Luigi's Mansion.
Yeah, HD remakes of everything complete with microtransactions and DLC. Really screw the consumer for something they have probably bought already and will buy again because of the "nostalgia syndrome".
I thought this remake was a huge missed opportunity for Nintendo. The game pad could have provided a fabulous Tingle Tuner experience instead we throw messages into the ocean.
HD remastered of these would be sweet:
Remakes used to bother me, but now that Smash and Mario Kart are already fantastic with more DLC on the way, I am with the WII U for the long haul. So if it makes them more money and they slowly trickle out some new releases, I am happy.
I'd like to see a few GameCube remakes. Some games would look and play better in HD like f-zero gx, mario sunshine, wave race blue storm etc. Maybe they are planning on a couple of re-releases and that's why we haven't seen any GameCube games on the virtual console!
remakes are fine, as long as the original is from at least 2 generations ago. (ie. we don't need The Last Us Remastered less than a year after the original...). From the Cube, I'd like to see Mario Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion.
With Factor 5 defunct, LucasArts being sold to Disney and Activision still being active (for the EU release), wouldn't there be a heavy amount of paperwork or copyright issues to get Rogue Leader remade? Or have any/all copyrights expired by now?
This late in the game I don't expect much from Nintendo.
@Sabef you say this, but atleast Nintendo has the brains NOT to make HD versions of games that were released last Gen unlike Sony and Microsoft. I am fine with HD Remakes as long as there not of last gen and they have new games still in the making
Twilight Princess HD
I would definitely want some remakes for the Wii U. My hopes for remakes are Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Twilight Princess... And would it be weird to ask for remakes of MK Double Dash and Super Smash Bros Melee? I know we get different versions of those games every generation or so, but those games always had a special place in my heart.
@Sir_Deadly don't get me wrong, I can understand your point of view especially when there is very little in the way of "original" software being produced. But let me ask you just one simple question. Would you prefer to play a HD rehash of say a Zelda title, or an original new Zelda adventure?
Mario Sunshine HD is a no-brainer. Nintendo, where is it? I don't know, maybe it's being remade for the 3DS...
Twilight Princess, Billy Hatcher And The Giant Egg, Super Monkey Ball 2, Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin 1 and 2, Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Pokemon Colosseum and Sonic Adventure DX would be some of the ones that I'd like to see.
I welcome remakes as long as they don't take away resources from new titles being developed.
I want Okami HD to come to other systems like Wii U, PS4 and Xbox One. It was a brilliant remaster of an amazing game. I'd buy it all over again to have it playable on these new gen systems. I'd love to see HD remakes/remasters of Killer 7, Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2, The Rogue Squadron games, Eternal Darkness and Star Fox Assault.
I have nothing against Nintendo doing remakes in their current position. With no third party I had long expected Nintendo to be churning these remakes out as it is a way of keeping the library ticking over without using any brainpower cooking anything new up.
I see a future where there will only be remakes of remakes that were remakes of remakes of the originals.
I'd buy Sunshine HD in a second. Get it done Nintendo.
I agree with everyone who wants a Sunshine remake, bring it! Also F-Zero GX for sure
Path of Radiance HD maybe? Anyone? No? okay...
My other pick would be twilight princess, maybe replaying that in HD could hold me off until Zelda U
The StarFox games on gamecube come to mind for an HD release maybe.
Thing about Sunshine is you could almost make it into a 3rd person shooter w/ FLUDD first person view on the Gamepad so besides HD it would also be a slightly different game play experience. They could even have the Gamepad do its usual map duties and only go into FP when you use FLUDD as a gun, not rocket or other modes. FP mode w/ gyroscopic controls could be very energetic trying to spin sroud to get all those coins in those circular flower patterns. Im getting dizzy just thinking about it.
Also, the very first time I saw the Captain Toad minecaft level it reminded me of the rollercoaster in Sunshine shooting the balloons w/ the missiles. I'm honestly surprised Sunshine HD didnt release last Christmas. At this point, w/ the Gamepad - FLUDD potential, Id actually much rather pay $50 for a remake than $20 for the game on VC.
I'm surprised no one mentioned Kirby Air Ride or Four Swords yet.
Sunshine or Thousand Year Door would be awesome!
I'd totally buy Mario Sunshine HD or F-Zero GX HD. Maybe even Luigi's Mansion HD, though I didn't love that game. That's probably about it, though.
Then Id like one Wave Race Blue Storm a la carte please.
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, please and thank you.
Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin 1&2 (or just the Wii VC), Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn(or Wii VC), Eternal Darkness, A Thousand Year Door, StarFox Adventures, Twilight Princess, and Four Swords.
I love remakes since I've never played PurpleCube games plus I like the a added gyro-controls on the Wii U gamepad.
Star Fox Adventures, PN03, Medal of Honor: Frontline, SSX3, Automodellista... the GCN was a big favourite of mine.
My top three remaster choices (from Nintendo itself anyway):
F-Zero GX (best racing game ever, IMO)
Super Mario Sunshine (far from my favorite 3d Mario game, so it stands to have the most to gain)
Star Fox Assault (love the premise, just need better controls and balancing. Throw in some online multiplayer, and this could be great)
Luigi Mansion is the HD remake I want the most.
I actually don't care for Super Mario Sunshine a whole lot. Both Galaxy's, 3D Land and 3D World are so much better. I'd rather have a Galaxy HD or something.
Metroid prime hd custom robo hd mario sunshine hd
I'm kind of finally starting Twilight Princess for the first time right now, and the game looks so pretty on the unplayably-small gamepad that it pains me to settle for the jaggy-filled display on my hdtv. I know another Zelda HD remake would be disgusting about now, but I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
@Alundra-1998 Seconding this.
Perhaps F-Zero GX?
Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion are the obvious two.
F-Zero might help Nintendo realise there's a market for a new one, even if it's niche.
Chibi Robo collection. Eternal Darkness. Get talking to Capcom about Viewtiful Joe. And why not use it to bring games like Kururin Paradise and Doshin the Giant across to a new audience?
Only reason I'm not listing Metroid is I just bought the Wii VC title a few months ago. I don't think I want to buy the same game again so quickly after.
@Nintenbomba128 Same here
Never having much money as a kid, I'd have to sell all my old games to get the new console. I've now just restarted buying all old GameCube games and ones I missed out on. There were some great titles and I'd definitely take some HD versions. However, back to my 5.5" TFT Joytech screen... At least it doesn't blow out the visuals!
Odama - mic is there, tilt sensors are there, touch screen for selecting targets,...
Eternal Darkness - with more sound and (better) image sources come more possibilities to scare the player.
Geist - visuals and controls were lacking but given a second chance it could be an amazing game.
Chibi Robo - just because.
Twin Snakes - Psycho Mantis. I don't get Hideo Kojima. Such great ideas for hardware usage, but when hardware with many more possibilities arrives, he jumps the ones with best graphics over the one with the most other possibilities.
Killer7 - favourite game ever. Gyro aiming would be awesome.
Pacman VS - why it hasn't been done yet is beyond me. Download or whatever, the gamepad SCREAMS Pacman VS since day one.
Baten Kaitos - beautiful game + HD + European localization of BK Origins = a winner is everyone.
And the big first party franchises. Gamecube is one of my favourite systems with so many great games... I'd love revisiting these titles with new technology. Still, I'd prefer No More Heroes 3, Timesplitters 4, Red Steel 3,...
The only remake that I want is Twilight Princess because that game deserves it. For the rest I'm done with remakes
@ajcismo Baten Kaitos has my vote too. It's one game where I was totally entranced by the cut scene visuals - in game visuals were a slight disappointment (by my probably unrealistic expectations of in-game visuals matching cut scenes) but the game was still gorgeous anyway
@Shambo They've got a version of Pacman VS though in NintendoLand jutst without PacMan
@Dr_Corndog Which Shine Sprites were the filler ones?
Hd Double dash!! That would be my dream. Alas..I don't think it'll happen. But still, PLEASE Nintendo! <3
Gamecube titles needing HD rremakes:
Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Eternal Darkness
F-Zero GX
Ikaruga
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Luigi's Mansion
Super Mario Sunshine
1080 Avalanche
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Baten Kaitos
Giving us all the already made resident evil HD remakes goes without saying.
@Kilroy a third party would work the port from original code. Disney and lucasarts will own the rights to the game itself and it's code. Like nintendo with donkey kong country. They own the licence? They own the game. Irrespective of who developed it.
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I want Super Mario Sunshine remake for 3ds. They did remake Luigi's Mansion on 3ds which is a fan favorite. If Super Mario Sunshine had a NEW Nintendo 3ds remake, that would be awesome as it has 4 shoulder buttons and the gamecube had 3, so two for F.L.U.D.D and the other for map. The c-stick for the camera, and this can show the NEW 3ds is also amazing for gamecube Remakes.
The remakes id like to see remade for wii u are:
Mario 64
Luigi's Mansion (i know it has a sequel but not a remake)
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Pokemon Snap
Loads more but these are my top ones id like redone.
Here's an idea! Let's not do any more remakes. They're plaguing the entire industry. Let's see some new stuff from Nintendo instead.
Super Mario Sunshine - Luigi's Mansion - Paper Mario TYD - Fire Emblem Path of Radiance - Legend of Zelda 4 Swords Adventures - Star Fox Adventures - OK those last two don't need to be made, but it wouldn't hurt - all first party
@FlaygletheBagel
If they want to made them its fine. As long as WE not bought them.
If you got original, not remake, then i see no point to buy them again.
One remake is ok: Chrono Trigger. I looked at snes version and its really annoying to find equipment and gave them to characters.
Not to mention find something in this mess.
Or not only one: all Final Fantasy Advance games.
I even wanted to buy Final Fantasy 4 DS (i already owned advance version), hopefully it blew from my mind very soon.
I didn't have a Gamecube, so I'm glad this was remade for the Wii U. Wind Waker HD is very pretty, not just in terms of graphics, but also the art style.
Baten kaitos 1 & 2 (which never made it to eu...i even bought an usa gc just for that one)
Mgs: twins snake (&maybe more)
Tales of the f****** symphonia
please
If it was outsourced and of wind waker quality I wouldn't have a problem with f-Zero sunshine or a more obscure title like eternal darkness or killer 7.id rather we get more new games tho and have some high quality remasters as the icing on the cake.
@ajcismo I second, third, and fourth that on to infinity. Such an undiscovered and underrated gem just waiting to revealed more of its beauty. I...would...die.
I'd like to see a remake of an N64 game with the same quality of graphics as Wind Waker HD. Star Fox 64, Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask have already been remade for 3DS so not those three. "Wave Race Trilogy HD" on Wii U, anyone?
@Sabef well we are getting a new zelda. Most aaa nintendo titles take years to make. Wind waker hd took six months. I fail to see your point due to this. A remake doesn't get in the way of other projects. This very article points out that the heavy lifting was done by an outside developer.
@Mario-Fan
Double dash online compatible with a few new tracks... YES PLEASE! LOL then again I've been dying to play sunshine too which I think is also perfect for HD. Tbh they could probably put double dash on the 3DS and it would work just as well!
@James_mussell98
It is...but I think the graphics on sunshine would look so nice in HD imagine like the sunlight and water in next gen drools
@Iggly
Yeah I think both on 3DS or wii u would be great. Especially if nintendo actually gave them online multiplayer!
@starman292
What about remake the first one HD for Wii U. Or have a sequel in HD with all new story or have that for 3DS but for NEW 3ds would be awesome an can handle better graphics than the current 3ds
I wouldn't mind a few HD collections from the GCN era coming to Wii U. Never going to happen, but I'd like to see it.
@James_mussell98 gamecube had 5 shoulder buttons. Neither has Luigis mansion been remade by anybody at any point. And it would need making for wii u not 3ds. I would HATE to have this classic remade and have it only available on a handheld.
How is it 5 it had L and R and Z.
Plus how about a sequel on the NEW nintendo 3ds.
They had luigis mansion sequel for 3ds, (even though it could have been better) but on having a sequel on new 3ds using c-stick and better controls having ZR and ZL makes the sequel what we need.
Twilight Princess REALLY needs an HD remake. It's aged worse than the N64 games. The textures, environments and characters look terrible. On top of that they color scheme is dark and full of browns and oranges which makes everything worse. They went for a style that was so complex that the hardware simply wasn't there yet. Just look at the concept art in Hyrule Historia and imagine how amazing it would look on Wii U.
Wave Race Blue Storm, 1080 Avalanche and of course F ZERO!!!!!
Only remake I need in my life is skies of arcadia HD!! The world would look so stunning
They could also expand on the ship battles more it's one area of the game I loved but felt it never matched its potential!
Twin Snakes and Twilight Princess HD is all I need.
Sunshine needs a heck of a lot more than a fresh coat of paint to avoid my growing tired of it some 30 Shines in, which always happens when I feel charitable enough to give it another try. A better 100% completion reward than "Have a relaxing vacation, you're gonna need it after wasting hours of your life" would be a start.
@Sabef i already got a Zelda remake so I am good. I am fine with the one but other ones arent needed.
I personally have no worries about Nintendo remaking games, especially GCN titles as they don't need to take resources away from the making of new games, as with the case of Wind Waker, can be done in 6 months and it helps fill out the Wii U release slate.
Yes, please! Fire Emblem and Chibi Robo would be top of my list, but I'll consider anything they want to do.
Melee HD w/ online play, of course. They may have to do something about the lack of analog triggers, tho.
Melee HD remake. laughs
I just want Twilight Princes HD...
@starman292 Or they could do something even better and include stuff as updates and DLC to Mario Kart 8. Sorry but I really don't see the point in HD remakes for Mario Kart and Smash games when the current games could have content added to them from the original games and then the originals are released on Wii U VC.
Super Monkey Ball HD.
Plz sega.
@Grumblevolcano
Well yeah I agree with that as most smash bros/mariokart games are just updates of each other...except for double dash. I'm not sure if you played it, but double dash had a completely different control style. Co-op with 2 players on one kart which allowed weapon stealing through melee attacks. Plus each character had unique special weapons, so yeah... I agree with remaking essentially the same game is stupid. But in some cases where a certain game in the series stood out and the ideas haven't been revisited then I'm happy for it to be remade or re released. But if the plan on doing a new double dash style mario kart I would be mega happy with that lol.
Rogue Squadron III would be a better idea, or in a perfect world a combination effort of II and III since RSIII already includes a 2 player cooperative version of the complete campaign from RSII. All they would need to do is also make that 2 player mode be Single Player as well, and you have the definitive package.
Cooperative gameplay on RSIII's campaign would be interesting too, and an unlockable port of N64's original Rogue Squadron would really take all my money right this moment, which would be appropriate as the original retail release of one of these games (I have both and I can't remember which one) has ports of the original arcade game in it.
That, or just make Rogue Squadron I a VC release on Wii U.
@IAmDeclanJay Two letters, one word.
Just make Fzero AC/GX (with ac tracks fully playable without codes) in hd and take my money Nintendo
I think the Pikmin games would look stunning in HD (considering how gorgeous Pikmin 3 looks like). Twilight Princess is also on my wishing list, just because I want my Zelda games to look as pretty as possible. And - even though it probably would never happen, because it is Rare - Star Fox Adventures. That game had awesome graphics just to begin with.
Wave Race please!
that's how you do it!
@Makyurax The AX tracks are fully playable without codes in the original, they're just insanely hard to unlock.
I was against the idea of more remakes but Luigi's Mansion with Super Mario 3d World graphics.... Drools...
Guys,plz,no f-zero...after all these years we want something more like a new f-zero,don't we?
As fot tp i think its still too soon...
I'd love to see sm sunshine hd,thats true
@KishinLink It looks like Nintendo aren't going to do another F Zero.
It is highly unlikely that any Nintendo team could reach the impossible standards set by Amusement Vision - I don't know how they did it but they created the 'perfect' future racer with graphics that astonish to this day - it just goes to show how much secret sauce was in the GCN with Factor 5, Amusement Vision and even Retro pushing out insane graphics and sound @ 60fps. Even Rare put out a first gen GCN game with bump mapping and fully fur rendered grass and characters - even Nintendo hasn't really managed that!
I for one would be happy with F Zero GX HD - if Nintendo wanted to go one further they could add online.
As for the Star Wars games - I'd probably pick the little less loved Rebel Strike 3. It features the whole of Rogue Squadron in two player and the engine is rendering over 2x the amount of everything the original did. I'll never forget he likes of the Forests of Endor on GCN - the LOD in the forest was insane.
For all the criticism of the on foot levels - which I agree is fair due to being far to simple it was unfair that it was marked as low because the rest of the game was a stunning showcase and vehicle combat is a demonstration of technical mastery along with a generous game size.
Super Mario Sunshine HD please. PLEASE. You can have my soul I don't need it.
I think the Rogue Squadron games would probably be MASSIVELY challenging to remake. Given the pedigree of the programmers involved there was a ton of very nuanced, hardware specific nitty-gritty tricks used to drag every ounce of power from the GC. You'd have to pretty much redo all of that for the WiiU, that would be practically a full rewrite.
@Fath Played the game 4 times already and I still want an HD remake Or a 3D version. Or both
All I wish for is proper remake of zelda a link to the past.
With all new handcrafted textures and animation in 1080p, it would look amazing. If it's a succes they could continue to remake all the old top 3d perspective zelda games. The games are still great, they just need better graphics for a new generation.
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