I'm kind of like... we know literally NOTHING about the gameplay other than 'you still have missiles, can shoot, can scan, have a vaguely similar UI, and have morph ball'.
Like did people want from Prime 4 that wouldn't cover those things? We don't have any clue what the upgrades in the game will be, how exploration will be handled, what the map is like, what the story will be like, or what anything in the main game will be really. All we saw was the opening tutorial segment.
I dunno, people who are like 'well they shouldn't have released Prime Remastered if the game is this similar' are putting the cart in front of the horse. We know nada about what's the same or different other than it's not a revolutionary different game.
@Vivianeat Would it be a Metroid game if Samus's suit looked the same at the end as the beginning ;p
In all seriousness, that was clearly all footage from the usual cold open segment outside of the final shot, so who knows. Prime 3's PED suit didn't debut until after the cold open, so it's got precedent.
@Joeynator3000 Well, vaguely. It's not a 1-to-1 translation a la ALBW by any means, you can see plenty of differences. And a bunch of areas shown in the trailer aren't anywhere in ALttP/ALBW like Gerudo Town, Castle Town, or the Deku Tree
I could make a joke about "If there's a title people like" but it'd be too easy.
More seriously, Unleashed could use a second chance at life, with totally revamped Warehog sections. And an Adventure 2 remake would be awesome. On the 2D side, an advanced trilogy collection, or a remaster of Rush / Adventure / Colors 3DS (with the terrible loot pacing in Adventure fixed) would be awesome.
@PikaPhantom Good call. I was going off them releasing F-Zero 99 and Mario vs DK remakes, but honestly Mario vs DK and Captain Toad are in the same vein anyways.
@Froddy Not enough details... If it's an internally developed game it could come out literally any time, and if another company is working on it, who knows what it is.
The big issue here is not looking at who makes these games.
For HAL, Way too few Kirby games, Kirby is almost always an annual affair. 2025 will have Kirby Battle Royale 2, 2026 will have Kirby's next main title, I think that one is right on. 2027 will have a game expanded off a minigame in Kirby 2026, 2028 will have a Kirby's Air Ride 2, and 2029 will feature a new Kirby Spin-Off
MonolithSoft's new IP is missing when it's likely a year 1 title (XC4 is not coming out next year, it's way too soon.) I'd say 2025 - New IP, 2026 - XC4, 2027 - XC4 DLC, 2029 XCX port
MercurySteam's 2D Metroid is highly likely to be next year, all signs point to it having started as soon as Dread released. Prime 4 at launch, 2D Metroid in the holidays? Then 2029 will get another one.
Good-Feel won't be releasing another game for a bit, and it quite likely won't be a Yoshi title. 2027 will probably be their only year with a release, maybe a Bowser spin-off?
Grezzo absolutely either has a late 2024 title for Switch or a Switch 2 launch title in the wings, they haven't put anything out for awhile. Not sure which it is but... I'll wager a new OoT remake comes out in 2026/7. Then MM again in 2029.
ND Cube is due to launch a new Mario Party next year, so that one seems highly likely for 2025. 2027 will see something weird from them (another board game title?) and 2029 the second Mario Party on Switch 2.
NERD is more likely to put out a late Switch title if anything. But I could see them finally perfecting a GCN emulator to make faster remasters during the Switch 2 era.
NST is likely to put out something in 2026... maybe that Dr. Mario 99 game lol. Then another game in 2027 and 2029.
Retro + MP4, that's the easiest on the list. Who knows if they'll release anything else on Switch 2 after that.
Indieszero will probably launch something in 2025/2026. A Sushi Strike sequel? IDK. Then a Brain Training in 2027.
PlatinumGames putting out Astral Chain 2 will almost certainly happen in the first 3 years. Maybe 2026/7?
Koei Tecmo will almost certainly have a Warriors crossover during this period. I'm going with a new Zelda Warriors in 2025 based on TotK. (As much as I'd prefer a successor to the original one with the improved controls of AoC). Then a new FE Warriors in 2028
Intelligent Systems seems pretty spot on.
Camelot is due for a release this year. Them not having a game until 2029 is definitely not happening. I suspect Mario Tennis is a launch window title in 2025, then Mario Golf in 2028
Creatures will probably release it's sole Switch 2 era game in 2028ish, another Detective Pikachu.
DeNA is now focused on account infrastructure, no games.
GameFreak of course has Legends Z-A in 2025, followed by Gen 10 in 2027, Gen 10 DLC in 2028, Legends Ultra Space in 2029
ILCA is going to do BW/B2W2 remakes in 2026
The in-house Nintendo titles (Mario 3D, Mario 2D, Zelda 3D, Pikmin, AC, Splatoon, sorta Smash, Mario Kart) generally seem reasonable. I expect Pikmin sooner, and Tomodachi to show up at some point.
@N00BiSH Totally agree. Yooka-Laylee has the potential to be an absolutely fantastic game, and another round of polish, tweaks and QoL features could bring out a game that sadly didn't meet it's potential.
Impossible Lair gives me a whole heck of a lot of hope anyways, that was one of the best games of this generation.
@liveswired Loathing? Nintendo loves to make money off their NES / SNES / GB(A) / N64 libraries. In the last decade we have: all of those platforms on NSO, the NES/SNES minis, that NES championship game, multiple X99 revisions of NES / SNES games, the Links Awakening remake, Advance Wars 1+2, and Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee. If anything, they rely on that era too heavily.
@shoeses I said nothing about the quality of ScVi (I do love Let's Go for what it is for the record.) All I meant was that ScVi tried something new, for Pokémon. Pokemon's never has and never is going to be doing things never before seen in video games (heck, even Red & Blue weren't the first monster collecting games, Megami Tensei beat them by four years), but at least ScVi tried to combine ideas in a new way.
@shoeses Let's Go was a more interesting game? I mean, it was higher quality and less buggy than ScVi, BDSP or even SwSh, but as a concept it was probably the most boring main series game ever made. Just yet another Kanto revisit, but with less battling and bad motion controls in an era everyone was sick of them. ScVi at least had a unique concept.
Legends on the other hand was the most interesting game this gen, hands down.
@westman98 Not sure at all, but I at least haven't seen any evidence that is dated prior to his (other than Prime Remastered which, let's face it, had literally hundreds of leaks prior, his was about the release date not the contents IIRC). I would expect he probably is piggybacking since he's clearly just an attention seeker but no idea where he's found that's suddenly got him with such a good track record.
@westman98 As annoying as he is, he correctly leaked Metroid Prime remastered, SM RPG remake, and Princess Peach Showtime recently. So he likely has gained some sort of legitimate source finally.
(But to be clear he was definitely a fake leaker during the Smash era)
It's nice to have a week where both logos are awesome. Japan's might be a clear winner, but the wests is still a great box art that just has to work within it's limitations.
@DanijoEX-the-Pierrot To put it into perspective, 5 million is equivalent to the lifetime sales of Guild Wars 2, FF VII Remake, and Monster Hunter World or the original release of Kingdom Hearts, and outsold every Kirby, Fire Emblem, and Metroid game.
Not a CoD / Pokemon / Animal Crossing level success, but still a huge amount of sales.
@MrCookieCrisps Well there's no reason to sic an engineer on it immediately if it's not going to get fixed same day. They had 4 years to get around to it.
@GarlicGuzzler You absolutely are. The QA testers were responsible for testing the localized versions of Nintendo developed titles. Not just random eShop games, or even ones that Nintendo only published.
So uh... is this part of their plan to get the merger through? Weird... I mean I love their work so at least they're no longer helping with the dumpster fire that is CoD and maybe making real games again.
@martynstuff I will genuinely celebrate if Pokemon Presents has no new mainline titles. Just give me some non-mobile spin-offs not made by ILSA/Game Freak/Creatures.
@BLD Nah, there's a couple that are in places. Unless you really think someone's going to bothered creating a new version of the model to show a demo video with that's somehow visually indistinguishable from the real one. Kinda hilarious how you'd rather assume I'm lying than a company doing something immoral, that's how people make money lol.
@Tasuki I mean, there are models in the game that are poly for poly the same as Pokemon models on certain limbs. There's a difference between inspiration and taking actual models from a game and slightly tweaking them in a model editor, and significant evidence suggests these are mostly (all?) built on the base of Pokemon models. P sure that cross the line on copyright law.
@Drac_Mazoku Okay I'm curious, do you play only in tv mode? I've played the game portable only and about once every 5 minutes or so the gang will hang for quite literally 1-5 seconds worth of frame drops, so I wanna know your secret.
(And before I get dragged into this dumb argument no I don't think it makes the game unplayable outside of one location in the base game, yes I have constant frame pacing issues any time it rains or I'm on/near water)
@Spider-Kev You say that like most players got to see any of those before playing. I remember playing OoT as a kid, I hadn't seen a single commercial (did the game really have commercials?), and my dad had opened the package before I even got to see it. I wouldn't get a Nintendo Power subscription until the late GCN era. I can't imagine I was the only one (and it sounds like I wasn't) who went into the game fully blind, it wasn't that hard in the pre-internet era.
Honestly I don't think I connected him to Ganon either until far later, despite having played the original LoZ a couple times. Not sure I ever learned Ganon's name in that though.
@Bret @Wilforce This isn't a major version update. The number isn't changing at all, 17.0.0 was released a while ago.
Also, the numbering scheme on the Switch OS refers to API compatibility changes when a major number increase occurs. It's not some arbitrary choice. Major.Minor.Patch - Major = API change, Minor = Notable, but fully BC change, Patch = Minor bugfixes
@GOmar Yes it's confirmed, you can repeatedly uninstall and reinstall the game and they'll get charged each time. Plus, there's no cutoff date, you'll continue owing money on people installing the game for life, even if you remove it from stores.
@RenanKJ Doesn't even matter if they remove it from stores. If you already bought it, you can continue to uninstall and reinstall forever, costing money while you've now removed the only potential income stream. There's no expiration date either, so they'd still be trying to charge if a game is reinstalled a 100 years from now, you're on the hook for life.
@120frames-please To be fair, the frame rate is almost certainly better than at launch in some (but not all) locations. 1.2.0 was a huge performance patch in particular. There were a few areas that were nigh unplayable at launch that run fine for me now. And the DLC area runs relatively smoothly with better textures and more populated areas. They just aren't specifying the details in the patch notes.
...Though there's still one area in the main game I'm aware of where the frame rate tanks to unplayable levels for no clear reason. And when I say unplayable, I mean I tried to shiny hunt there and got motion sickness after an hour or two from the constantly shifting frame drops, something I've literally never had from a game before. So y'know, can't say you're wrong to skip if that's what you want, but there hasn't been no progress either.
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Re: Soapbox: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Won't Be The Franchise's 'BOTW Moment', And That's Okay
I'm kind of like... we know literally NOTHING about the gameplay other than 'you still have missiles, can shoot, can scan, have a vaguely similar UI, and have morph ball'.
Like did people want from Prime 4 that wouldn't cover those things? We don't have any clue what the upgrades in the game will be, how exploration will be handled, what the map is like, what the story will be like, or what anything in the main game will be really. All we saw was the opening tutorial segment.
I dunno, people who are like 'well they shouldn't have released Prime Remastered if the game is this similar' are putting the cart in front of the horse. We know nada about what's the same or different other than it's not a revolutionary different game.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns Switch Dev Appears To Have Been Revealed
@Clyde_Radcliffe Probably because M&L is in-house, most of AlphaDream works for Nintendo now after all.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Delivered, And Shows That Switch Still Has Plenty Of Pep
@Vivianeat Would it be a Metroid game if Samus's suit looked the same at the end as the beginning ;p
In all seriousness, that was clearly all footage from the usual cold open segment outside of the final shot, so who knows. Prime 3's PED suit didn't debut until after the cold open, so it's got precedent.
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics Will Get Super On Switch This Year
@Mario500 Boyfriend lol
Re: Gallery: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Is A Glorious Mix Of Old And New
@Joeynator3000 Well, vaguely. It's not a 1-to-1 translation a la ALBW by any means, you can see plenty of differences. And a bunch of areas shown in the trailer aren't anywhere in ALttP/ALBW like Gerudo Town, Castle Town, or the Deku Tree
Re: Marvel vs. Capcom Fighting Collection: Arcade Classics Will Get Super On Switch This Year
My BF literally was trying to find a way to play these games last week, this is great.
Re: Nintendo Direct June 2024: Time, Where To Watch, What To Expect
Anyone know if Nintendo Life will be streaming the NOA or NOE stream this time?
Re: Japanese Charts: Paper Mario Dominates As The Switch Scores A Full House
I much prefer the new tables! And I'm very curious how TTYD is comparing to TOK launch aligned...
@UltimateOtaku91 Both Mario Partys are evergreen and among the top 20 selling titles on Switch, it might just be normal sales fluxuations.
Re: Capcom's 'Super Elections' Reveals Fan Favourite Characters, Games And More
@russell-marlow Even Street Fighter 6's story practically felt like it belonged to a modern Final Fight game, especially the first half.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 18.1.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Friendly They literally announced we were getting a June Direct months ago, and you predicted most of the rest of the month
Re: Sonic Team On Remasters: "If There's A Title People Like, We'll Think About It"
I could make a joke about "If there's a title people like" but it'd be too easy.
More seriously, Unleashed could use a second chance at life, with totally revamped Warehog sections. And an Adventure 2 remake would be awesome. On the 2D side, an advanced trilogy collection, or a remaster of Rush / Adventure / Colors 3DS (with the terrible loot pacing in Adventure fixed) would be awesome.
Re: Feature: We Look To The Past To Predict Every First-Party 'Switch 2' Release Until 2029
@PikaPhantom Good call. I was going off them releasing F-Zero 99 and Mario vs DK remakes, but honestly Mario vs DK and Captain Toad are in the same vein anyways.
Re: Feature: We Look To The Past To Predict Every First-Party 'Switch 2' Release Until 2029
@Froddy Not enough details... If it's an internally developed game it could come out literally any time, and if another company is working on it, who knows what it is.
Re: Feature: We Look To The Past To Predict Every First-Party 'Switch 2' Release Until 2029
The big issue here is not looking at who makes these games.
The in-house Nintendo titles (Mario 3D, Mario 2D, Zelda 3D, Pikmin, AC, Splatoon, sorta Smash, Mario Kart) generally seem reasonable. I expect Pikmin sooner, and Tomodachi to show up at some point.
Re: 'Yooka-Replaylee' Brings Back Playtonic's Love Letter To Banjo In Remastered Form
@N00BiSH Totally agree. Yooka-Laylee has the potential to be an absolutely fantastic game, and another round of polish, tweaks and QoL features could bring out a game that sadly didn't meet it's potential.
Impossible Lair gives me a whole heck of a lot of hope anyways, that was one of the best games of this generation.
Re: DAEMON X MACHINA: Titanic Scion Gets A New Teaser Trailer
Wait we're getting a sequel? That's awesome!
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Takes A Look At Zelda 64 Recompiled: Majora's Mask
@liveswired Loathing? Nintendo loves to make money off their NES / SNES / GB(A) / N64 libraries. In the last decade we have: all of those platforms on NSO, the NES/SNES minis, that NES championship game, multiple X99 revisions of NES / SNES games, the Links Awakening remake, Advance Wars 1+2, and Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee. If anything, they rely on that era too heavily.
Re: The Pokémon Games Have Had Tremendous Success During The Switch Generation
@shoeses I said nothing about the quality of ScVi (I do love Let's Go for what it is for the record.) All I meant was that ScVi tried something new, for Pokémon. Pokemon's never has and never is going to be doing things never before seen in video games (heck, even Red & Blue weren't the first monster collecting games, Megami Tensei beat them by four years), but at least ScVi tried to combine ideas in a new way.
Re: The Pokémon Games Have Had Tremendous Success During The Switch Generation
@shoeses Let's Go was a more interesting game? I mean, it was higher quality and less buggy than ScVi, BDSP or even SwSh, but as a concept it was probably the most boring main series game ever made. Just yet another Kanto revisit, but with less battling and bad motion controls in an era everyone was sick of them. ScVi at least had a unique concept.
Legends on the other hand was the most interesting game this gen, hands down.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
@westman98 Not sure at all, but I at least haven't seen any evidence that is dated prior to his (other than Prime Remastered which, let's face it, had literally hundreds of leaks prior, his was about the release date not the contents IIRC). I would expect he probably is piggybacking since he's clearly just an attention seeker but no idea where he's found that's suddenly got him with such a good track record.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
@westman98 As annoying as he is, he correctly leaked Metroid Prime remastered, SM RPG remake, and Princess Peach Showtime recently. So he likely has gained some sort of legitimate source finally.
(But to be clear he was definitely a fake leaker during the Smash era)
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Demon's Crest (SNES)
It's nice to have a week where both logos are awesome. Japan's might be a clear winner, but the wests is still a great box art that just has to work within it's limitations.
Re: 'Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition' For Switch Rated By ESRB
@WheresWaveRace In-Game purchases almost always means NSO and nothing else
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4 Sales Reportedly Surpass Five Million
@fenlix Honestly I pulled them off wikipedia, my bad.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4 Sales Reportedly Surpass Five Million
@DanijoEX-the-Pierrot To put it into perspective, 5 million is equivalent to the lifetime sales of Guild Wars 2, FF VII Remake, and Monster Hunter World or the original release of Kingdom Hearts, and outsold every Kirby, Fire Emblem, and Metroid game.
Not a CoD / Pokemon / Animal Crossing level success, but still a huge amount of sales.
Re: Square Enix Fixes Leap Day Bug In Theatrhythm Final Bar Line
@MrCookieCrisps Well there's no reason to sic an engineer on it immediately if it's not going to get fixed same day. They had 4 years to get around to it.
Re: Nintendo Of America Restructuring Testing Department, Over 100 Contractor Jobs Reportedly Eliminated
@GarlicGuzzler You absolutely are. The QA testers were responsible for testing the localized versions of Nintendo developed titles. Not just random eShop games, or even ones that Nintendo only published.
Re: Poll: What's The Best Final Fantasy Game? Rate Your Favourite Mainline & Spin-Offs
Me looking for FF VI on SNES and not finding it... whoops
Re: Random: Nintendo Puts Out Another Tasty Splatoon 3 Music Video
This article already needs a heavy update @Olliemar28 ... They took it down and uploaded a Color Pulse AMV instead
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy & GBC Library With Three More Mario Titles
2 of my favorite Gameboy games...
Re: Crash Bandicoot Dev Toys For Bob Splits From Activision & Xbox, Goes Independent
So uh... is this part of their plan to get the merger through? Weird... I mean I love their work so at least they're no longer helping with the dumpster fire that is CoD and maybe making real games again.
Re: Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection Estimated Switch File Size Revealed
@Boo_Boy52 It was a pre-order bonus for the Xbox version, and never generally available, nor available at all on PS2 / PC
Re: Pokémon Presents Announced For 27th February 2024
@martynstuff I will genuinely celebrate if Pokemon Presents has no new mainline titles. Just give me some non-mobile spin-offs not made by ILSA/Game Freak/Creatures.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Partner Showcase February 2024 - Time, Where To Watch, What To Expect
@Hoshiko Next month still seems quite likely if it is indeed coming this year. If it was 'delayed' into next year, June/July would make more sense.
Re: Nintendo Highlights New Stages In Mario Vs. Donkey Kong Switch
Man, I love DK '94, but hate the minis... do I want to try this one...
Re: Round Table: Let's Talk About Palworld - Comparisons, Controversy, 'Copying'
@BLD Nah, there's a couple that are in places. Unless you really think someone's going to bothered creating a new version of the model to show a demo video with that's somehow visually indistinguishable from the real one. Kinda hilarious how you'd rather assume I'm lying than a company doing something immoral, that's how people make money lol.
Re: Round Table: Let's Talk About Palworld - Comparisons, Controversy, 'Copying'
@Tasuki I mean, there are models in the game that are poly for poly the same as Pokemon models on certain limbs. There's a difference between inspiration and taking actual models from a game and slightly tweaking them in a model editor, and significant evidence suggests these are mostly (all?) built on the base of Pokemon models. P sure that cross the line on copyright law.
Re: Review: Golden Sun: The Lost Age - More Of The Same, Which Is No Bad Thing
Does anyone know if the NSO version lets you save data transfer automatically, or do you need to write down the password?
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Viewtiful Joe 2
I love the JP and NA covers... not so much the EU one. Alas, Red Hot Kick + Sylvia with guns wins out
Re: The Pokémon Company Outlines Fixes For Scarlet & Violet's Next Update
@Drac_Mazoku Okay I'm curious, do you play only in tv mode? I've played the game portable only and about once every 5 minutes or so the gang will hang for quite literally 1-5 seconds worth of frame drops, so I wanna know your secret.
(And before I get dragged into this dumb argument no I don't think it makes the game unplayable outside of one location in the base game, yes I have constant frame pacing issues any time it rains or I'm on/near water)
Re: Details On Sonic 2's Lost Stages Have Been Revealed
@Clyde_Radcliffe Primarily cause episode 1 was so bad people didn't play 2 and assume it's just another set of levels.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis of Batman: Arkham Trilogy
How the heck does City run better than Asylum? Asylum is built to be way less demanding.
Re: Soapbox: Ganondorf's Villainous Intro In Ocarina Of Time Is One Of Gaming's Best
@Spider-Kev You say that like most players got to see any of those before playing. I remember playing OoT as a kid, I hadn't seen a single commercial (did the game really have commercials?), and my dad had opened the package before I even got to see it. I wouldn't get a Nintendo Power subscription until the late GCN era. I can't imagine I was the only one (and it sounds like I wasn't) who went into the game fully blind, it wasn't that hard in the pre-internet era.
Honestly I don't think I connected him to Ganon either until far later, despite having played the original LoZ a couple times. Not sure I ever learned Ganon's name in that though.
Re: Nintendo Releases Update For Switch (Version 17.0.0), Here Are The Details
@Bret @Wilforce This isn't a major version update. The number isn't changing at all, 17.0.0 was released a while ago.
Also, the numbering scheme on the Switch OS refers to API compatibility changes when a major number increase occurs. It's not some arbitrary choice. Major.Minor.Patch - Major = API change, Minor = Notable, but fully BC change, Patch = Minor bugfixes
Re: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Also Had A Strong Start In The US
@liljmoore Nintendo doesn't report digital sales.
Re: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Also Had A Strong Start In The US
@johnedwin Mario sales numbers are physical only. Spider-man 2 numbers are physical + digital.
Re: Early Tech Analysis Investigates Paper Mario Thousand-Year Door Switch FPS & Resolution
Button latency is only an issue if the game is checking inputs at 30fps. If it's checking at twice the render rate, it'll be fine.
Re: Round Up: Developers React To Unity's New 'Runtime Fee' Policy
@Haruki_NLI Well they are, Genshin is on Unity so they'll want pay on every download.
Re: Unity To Charge Developers A Fee Each Time A Game Is Installed Next Year
@GOmar Yes it's confirmed, you can repeatedly uninstall and reinstall the game and they'll get charged each time. Plus, there's no cutoff date, you'll continue owing money on people installing the game for life, even if you remove it from stores.
@RenanKJ Doesn't even matter if they remove it from stores. If you already bought it, you can continue to uninstall and reinstall forever, costing money while you've now removed the only potential income stream. There's no expiration date either, so they'd still be trying to charge if a game is reinstalled a 100 years from now, you're on the hook for life.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 2.0.1 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@120frames-please To be fair, the frame rate is almost certainly better than at launch in some (but not all) locations. 1.2.0 was a huge performance patch in particular. There were a few areas that were nigh unplayable at launch that run fine for me now. And the DLC area runs relatively smoothly with better textures and more populated areas. They just aren't specifying the details in the patch notes.
...Though there's still one area in the main game I'm aware of where the frame rate tanks to unplayable levels for no clear reason. And when I say unplayable, I mean I tried to shiny hunt there and got motion sickness after an hour or two from the constantly shifting frame drops, something I've literally never had from a game before. So y'know, can't say you're wrong to skip if that's what you want, but there hasn't been no progress either.