@sixrings And there is no BC on Switch, which was clear from day one.
TLoU remastered was full price when released seven years ago. It’s not an impressive port when compared to any first party title this generation. MCC was rushed out and took a year or two to get everything fixed.
You keep going to a different argument. I never said anything about what is or isn’t a good value.
@sixrings While I have bought Wii U ports on the Switch, I didn’t buy the Switch for Wii U ports, and when I did, it wasn’t because I thought they would be drastically better versions of themselves. My comment has nothing to do with defending Nintendo and the job they’ve done porting Wii U software to the Switch, even if that’s what you’d like to retcon it into.
Most of what you’re talking about have been modest improvements of games, and that’s fine, but it’s also not what you were talking about happening for BC on the other systems.
@sixrings Apples and oranges comparison. The Switch never promised BC in any form, and any hardware gains you’re referencing are due to the PC-like nature of both PS and XBOX consoles at this point and the super expensive SSDs the consoles use.
Any expectations you had for graphics/frame rate being markedly different on Switch than Wii U ignored the information that was readily available.
@barneygumble They aren’t all getting free upgrades. Third parties are encouraged to offer them, but NBA2K isn’t. Control isn’t. I’m sure there are or will be others that aren’t. Supposedly some Bethesda games are being repackaged/bundled with upgrades for the XS X/S consoles—whether or not they are offered for Free to people who own them is unknown.
@Rohanrocks88 AC3 shouldn’t have needed a patch to make it play better; the game was a port of a previous generation game, not something newish coming out.
It’s tangentially Zelda. neither game is really true to the roots of the mainline series, so the audience for both games probably have some overlap, but I just think you’re way off base thinking sales from a game over a year old are going to be negatively impacted by a brand new one simply because it’s getting a physical release.
I don’t care about online backlash about announcements or lack there of. People get outraged over stupid things all the time. There are a lot more pressing issues going on in the world today than Nintendo not giving you news on the new shiny thing you want.
@OmegaDestroyer I agree, it IS really hard to support a developer who makes good games.
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Get over yourself. The company has done what it had to do to make the games it wanted to. The fact that Switch is the first console on the books for arguably their best game is a boon for Switch owners, and I’m sure it will come to other platforms in time like nearly every other title they’ve made has.
@sketchturner So that's enough for what, 20% of the current Switch install base?
AC:NH sold over double that in a few months. Granted, many copies were purchased digitally, but 10 million for a first party Nintendo game would actually but it at the load end of the life-to-date sales spectrum.
Discoverability is always a problem for any kind of entertainment.
The eShop is not the only way to promote your game. I don’t just go browsing the eShop for a game to buy—I hear about a game, add it to my wish list or look it up, etc.
Even if people are buying your game at deep discounts, that doesn’t mean they’re playing it. When things are a buck or two, I’m sure some people just buy it because it’s so cheap. The glut of great games on Switch is real. So is the backlog.
No, it’s not. It has gameplay, something a majority of walking sims lack. Walking Sims are barely games at all, tend to be generally linear, and rely on a narrative hook over meaningful mechanics. All you do in a walking sim is walk around looking for button prompts.
Stop trying to compare 3DS graphics to Full HD ones. AAA Games are getting bigger. They cost more. And they take longer to develop. Whether some of these trends, like longer length, are good or even necessary is worthy of discussion. This is not, in my opinion. Their software output is on pace with or exceeds their peers this generation, which should is the best point of comparison.
Making HD games is a lot more time consuming than producing 3DS-level graphics. Getting teams up to speed takes time. AAA games have never taken longer to make.
Naughty Dog released the Uncharted trilogy and Last of Us during the PS3. For the PS4, only one title in each series, and now they’re moving on to PS5.
There was no new GTA this generation. Just a port with some new features.
Compared to their peers, I bet their Publishing output exceeds everyone, even if you exclude ports.
Starlink is just okay. While it makes a great first impression, There’s not a lot of variety in the gameplay. Fly to an area on the map, strafe around enemies time kill them, have a generic conversation, repeat. The space dogfighting is pretty similar. Take Star Fox out and the game would be forgettable. I enjoyed SF0 more, even if there’s less content.
The rumored Grand Prix game was being developed by Retro, iirc. They’ve been silent since DKTF, which was released well before they were given the keys to MP4.
The body content of both reviews should state the reasoning. Summaries leave out the nuance. Also, it’s an opinion. Who cares how someone else feels about something if you enjoy it?
@Chibi_Manny From a player perspective, I don’t care if someone chooses to cheapen the experience for themselves. That’s on them.
Instead of trying to control the way people play the game, they ought to be focusing on quality of life improvements to the game. Crafting is cumbersome. Some of the dialogue options could be improved. Having to claim the bonus nook miles stuff is just extra button presses that could be changed with notifications.
Most of the rare bugs were already pretty rare to begin with, so nerfing them is only going to negatively impact casual players. Time travelers will find a new way to exploit the game.
As with all things, intent matters. It’s clear this person never intended to follow through. So then, what’s the point? Screwing with other people for LOLz?
I’ve held off on buying it due to the issues the community said were present. When they announced the last patch was it, the feedback sounded like they hadn’t done enough, and the devs shrugged.
Unless there is a new patch coming that actually fixes the outstanding issues, the article had no new information. Sounds like it’s the same version currently on the eShop.
The obvious solution to this, if Nintendo cares, would be an opt-in for sharing an island on a console. While this is in the spirit of the game since forever, I’m sure a lot of people are either unaware of this caveat, or are aware and don’t appreciate it.
And sure, you can’t please everyone. But this seems like something that isn’t a big deal from a developmental standpoint, a fix that could be addressed if they so choose to.
@Glassneedles I don't remember the exact topics it was associated with, but something along those lines. I looked up the story because I thought there was more to it than was 'reported' here, and rather than clicking on the first article, I looked a little further.
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Re: Cute Zelda-Style 2D Adventure Ocean's Heart Looks Like It's Switch-Bound
The art doesn’t seem to have the charm that Zelda ALttP has. It’s clean, but kind of sterile, based off the screenshots.
Re: Hyper Light Drifter Dev Abylight Slams Twitter's 'Dangerous And Careless Attitude' After Surprise Ban
@DeclanS98
Except for the people who own the platform, right? For what purpose does Twitter exist?
Re: XIII Remake's Launch On PS4 Doesn't Give Us Much Hope For The Switch Release
@FX102A If you have Game Pass, West of Dead is worth a look. It's also on Switch.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
@sixrings And there is no BC on Switch, which was clear from day one.
TLoU remastered was full price when released seven years ago. It’s not an impressive port when compared to any first party title this generation. MCC was rushed out and took a year or two to get everything fixed.
You keep going to a different argument. I never said anything about what is or isn’t a good value.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
@sixrings While I have bought Wii U ports on the Switch, I didn’t buy the Switch for Wii U ports, and when I did, it wasn’t because I thought they would be drastically better versions of themselves. My comment has nothing to do with defending Nintendo and the job they’ve done porting Wii U software to the Switch, even if that’s what you’d like to retcon it into.
Most of what you’re talking about have been modest improvements of games, and that’s fine, but it’s also not what you were talking about happening for BC on the other systems.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
@sixrings Apples and oranges comparison. The Switch never promised BC in any form, and any hardware gains you’re referencing are due to the PC-like nature of both PS and XBOX consoles at this point and the super expensive SSDs the consoles use.
Any expectations you had for graphics/frame rate being markedly different on Switch than Wii U ignored the information that was readily available.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
@Daldra Right, the UE is. It’s $40. Not the one everyone bought last year when it came out.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
@barneygumble They aren’t all getting free upgrades. Third parties are encouraged to offer them, but NBA2K isn’t. Control isn’t. I’m sure there are or will be others that aren’t. Supposedly some Bethesda games are being repackaged/bundled with upgrades for the XS X/S consoles—whether or not they are offered for Free to people who own them is unknown.
Re: Frame Rate And Resolution For Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Calamity Demo Revealed
@Ventilator that’s too bad. Bloodborne is a fantastic game.
Re: Switch Is No Longer The Only Way To Play Bloodstained On The Move
@SwitchVogel Watch a $500+ device run it better than a $300 one. Shocker.
Re: The Switch Version Of The Outer Worlds Is Getting A Patch Next Week
@Rohanrocks88 AC3 shouldn’t have needed a patch to make it play better; the game was a port of a previous generation game, not something newish coming out.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Arguing Switch Joy-Con Drift "Isn't A Real Problem"
This is a misleading headline. There are no public statements from Nintendo saying that. The law firm is the one making that claim.
Re: Wallachia: Reign Of Dracula Might Be The Closest We Get To A New Castlevania On Switch
Tried Bloodstained on GamePass and didn’t get the love for it. Movement was so slow and the platforming felt off.
Re: The Plot Thickens On Prince Of Persia Remake As Switch Box Art Appears Online
If Witcher 3 can come, anything this gen or prior can make it. It’s just a question of when.
Re: Cadence Of Hyrule's Skull Kid DLC Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@NathanTheAsian
It’s tangentially Zelda. neither game is really true to the roots of the mainline series, so the audience for both games probably have some overlap, but I just think you’re way off base thinking sales from a game over a year old are going to be negatively impacted by a brand new one simply because it’s getting a physical release.
I don’t care about online backlash about announcements or lack there of. People get outraged over stupid things all the time. There are a lot more pressing issues going on in the world today than Nintendo not giving you news on the new shiny thing you want.
Re: Cadence Of Hyrule's Skull Kid DLC Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@NathanTheAsian
Not really. These are two totally different games, one of which has been out well over a year and costs half as much as the other will.
Re: Did You Miss Out On The Super Mario Anniversary Pin Set? You're Not Alone
@super08mario you only need to do 5 of the 6 missions.
Re: Review: Hades - A Heavenly Trip Into Hell That's Utterly Essential For All Switch Owners
@OmegaDestroyer I agree, it IS really hard to support a developer who makes good games.
/s
Get over yourself. The company has done what it had to do to make the games it wanted to. The fact that Switch is the first console on the books for arguably their best game is a boon for Switch owners, and I’m sure it will come to other platforms in time like nearly every other title they’ve made has.
Re: Round Up: Everything Revealed During The Nintendo Life Indie Spotlight
@Dr_Corndog You do what I did and buy another one!
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About 'Limited-Time' Games From Nintendo?
@sketchturner The sales numbers for AC as a series, prior to NH, disagrees. The numbers are similar to the 3D Mario ones.
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About 'Limited-Time' Games From Nintendo?
@sketchturner So that's enough for what, 20% of the current Switch install base?
AC:NH sold over double that in a few months. Granted, many copies were purchased digitally, but 10 million for a first party Nintendo game would actually but it at the load end of the life-to-date sales spectrum.
Re: Review: Phoenotopia: Awakening - An Intelligently Crafted Metroidvania That Stands Out From The Crowd
Adding it to the wishlist, which is getting to be like the Energizer bunny.
Re: Roguelike Dungeon Crawler Hades Hacks 'N Slashes Its Way To Switch This Fall
I was hoping for some Spelunky news and had forgotten all about this game. Glad it’s on its way to Switch.
Re: Hori Reveals Three New Colours For Its Split Pad Pro Switch Controller
@Averagewriter
3DS doesn’t have clickable thumb sticks. That’s why the JoyCons tend to wear out IIRC.
Re: Braid Is Coming To Nintendo Switch Next Year
Alright, so I guess that means it's not too late for Spelunky to come out on Switch.
Re: The State Of The Switch eShop Is "Heartbreaking" Says No More Robots Boss
Discoverability is always a problem for any kind of entertainment.
The eShop is not the only way to promote your game. I don’t just go browsing the eShop for a game to buy—I hear about a game, add it to my wish list or look it up, etc.
Even if people are buying your game at deep discounts, that doesn’t mean they’re playing it. When things are a buck or two, I’m sure some people just buy it because it’s so cheap. The glut of great games on Switch is real. So is the backlog.
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch 'Walking Simulators' And Narrative Games
@Trajan
No, it’s not. It has gameplay, something a majority of walking sims lack. Walking Sims are barely games at all, tend to be generally linear, and rely on a narrative hook over meaningful mechanics. All you do in a walking sim is walk around looking for button prompts.
Re: Talking Point: Is Nintendo Making As Many Games As It Used To?
Stop trying to compare 3DS graphics to Full HD ones. AAA Games are getting bigger. They cost more. And they take longer to develop. Whether some of these trends, like longer length, are good or even necessary is worthy of discussion. This is not, in my opinion. Their software output is on pace with or exceeds their peers this generation, which should is the best point of comparison.
Re: Reminder: Use Your Switch Game Vouchers While You Still Can (North America)
Nintendo Direct for 8/1 confirmed!
Re: What Comes After Switch? Nintendo Discusses Plans For Future Game Consoles
@SwitchVogel
Making HD games is a lot more time consuming than producing 3DS-level graphics. Getting teams up to speed takes time. AAA games have never taken longer to make.
Naughty Dog released the Uncharted trilogy and Last of Us during the PS3. For the PS4, only one title in each series, and now they’re moving on to PS5.
There was no new GTA this generation. Just a port with some new features.
Compared to their peers, I bet their Publishing output exceeds everyone, even if you exclude ports.
Re: Nintendo Says Directs Are 'Incredibly Effective', But They Might Not Be Around Forever
@87th Whistling past the grave of Club Nintendo.
Re: Here Are The Seven Games EA Is Bringing To Nintendo Switch This Year
@kemosabii there’s a few more games still to come. Just not this year.
Re: Random: The Smash Bros. ARMS Presentation Gave Us A Better Look At Sakurai's Insane Gaming Setup
Where’s his backlog? Because it has to be huge.
Re: Want Star Fox On Switch? Astrodogs Might Be The Next Best Thing For Now
@Spoony_Tech
Starlink is just okay. While it makes a great first impression, There’s not a lot of variety in the gameplay. Fly to an area on the map, strafe around enemies time kill them, have a generic conversation, repeat. The space dogfighting is pretty similar. Take Star Fox out and the game would be forgettable. I enjoyed SF0 more, even if there’s less content.
The rumored Grand Prix game was being developed by Retro, iirc. They’ve been silent since DKTF, which was released well before they were given the keys to MP4.
Re: Review: BioShock: The Collection - Three Of The Best Single-Player Shooters Ever, All In One Place
@Fido007
The body content of both reviews should state the reasoning. Summaries leave out the nuance. Also, it’s an opinion. Who cares how someone else feels about something if you enjoy it?
Re: Review: The Outer Worlds - Obsidian's Fallout-Style RPG Is Worth A Look On Switch
@StevenG Not going to happen, especially on Switch, given how reluctant publishers are to use properly sized cartridges for games.
Even Witcher 3 on Switch—which shipped on the 32gb cart— has had multiple sizable patches.
Re: Dark Souls Series Has Now Sold Over 27 Million Copies Worldwide, FromSoftware Confirms
@geheimxy
I love From and the games they make, but they don’t seem to optimize games on any system, even when they’re exclusive.
Re: A Cool Animal Crossing: New Leaf Feature Might Be Coming To New Horizons
@CowCatcher
You can choose not to read the articles relating to the game that are clearly marked as spoilers.
Re: Animal Crossing Appears To Have Nerfed Tarantula And Scorpion Spawn Rates
@Chibi_Manny
From a player perspective, I don’t care if someone chooses to cheapen the experience for themselves. That’s on them.
Instead of trying to control the way people play the game, they ought to be focusing on quality of life improvements to the game. Crafting is cumbersome. Some of the dialogue options could be improved. Having to claim the bonus nook miles stuff is just extra button presses that could be changed with notifications.
Most of the rare bugs were already pretty rare to begin with, so nerfing them is only going to negatively impact casual players. Time travelers will find a new way to exploit the game.
Re: Sword Of The Necromancer Kickstarter Suffers Heavy Blow From "Troll" Backer
@johnvboy
As with all things, intent matters. It’s clear this person never intended to follow through. So then, what’s the point? Screwing with other people for LOLz?
Re: Random: This Tiny Update Would Make A World Of Difference In Animal Crossing: New Horizons
@NotTelevision
Simple. Change the color. No details needed.
Re: Murder Mystery Game The Sexy Brutale Gets Physical On Switch
@link3710
I’ve held off on buying it due to the issues the community said were present. When they announced the last patch was it, the feedback sounded like they hadn’t done enough, and the devs shrugged.
Re: Murder Mystery Game The Sexy Brutale Gets Physical On Switch
@link3710
People also said that the frame drops in the Link’s Awakening remake weren’t as bad as people were saying, but I found them jarring.
Re: Murder Mystery Game The Sexy Brutale Gets Physical On Switch
@CurryPowderKeg79
Unless there is a new patch coming that actually fixes the outstanding issues, the article had no new information. Sounds like it’s the same version currently on the eShop.
Re: Murder Mystery Game The Sexy Brutale Gets Physical On Switch
@setezerocinco
From what I found as their quote to the last patch they put out—in 2018.
“We released a patch and we did our best to make it work. If you want to play it or not it is your choice.”
They haven’t fixed it.
Re: Murder Mystery Game The Sexy Brutale Gets Physical On Switch
Unless they plan on fixing the issues that still plague it, why bother?
Re: Aeterna: Noctis Is A New Metroidvania Aiming For A Release On Switch
@jobvd
No, but the art styles and use of lighting/foreground/background are reminiscent of HK. I haven’t played another game with its visual style.
Re: Star Wars Episode I: Racer Is Getting Remade On Switch
@bluemujika
And the music is so epic they produced a music video that ran on MTV.
Re: Random: Bandai Namco Twitter Account Complains About Animal Crossing, Tweet Quickly Deleted
The obvious solution to this, if Nintendo cares, would be an opt-in for sharing an island on a console. While this is in the spirit of the game since forever, I’m sure a lot of people are either unaware of this caveat, or are aware and don’t appreciate it.
And sure, you can’t please everyone. But this seems like something that isn’t a big deal from a developmental standpoint, a fix that could be addressed if they so choose to.
Re: Oculus VR Founder Claims He's Winning The Auction For The Nintendo PlayStation
@Glassneedles I don't remember the exact topics it was associated with, but something along those lines. I looked up the story because I thought there was more to it than was 'reported' here, and rather than clicking on the first article, I looked a little further.