Nintendo Switch Successor Chip Rumours Are Doing The Rounds Again

It'll be cool when it finally arrives. But will I buy it day-one? If backwards compatibility with Switch physical cartridges is absent, probably not.

Those are my favorite kind of rumors because I have no clue what any of that means

For reference, the T239 chip has roughly the same amount of compute power as an XBox Series S, which is a 10x increase on the Switch's current 0.4 TFLOP output.

In other words, this should be more than enough for a new Nintendo handheld device in 2024.

Blah blah blah blah, no physical cartridge backwards compatibility, no thank you.

That seems quite underwhelming, unless they'll make heavy use of DLSS ...but as long as it is fully backwards compatible and all my purchases are still owned by me through the next generation, I guess I'll survive.

Can't wait for the "Nintendo Switch 2 Confirmed?!" Videos. I have a whole bingo board now.

The Tegra T239 utilises eight cores in a single cluster, it is a customised Tegra T234 based on NVIDIA's Ampere architecture.
Reputedly, the Tegra T239 will contain 2,048 CUDA cores, up from 256 shader cores in the Tegra X1. Nominally, the Tegra T239 should deliver 4 TFLOPs of performance too, a 10x increase on the Switch's current 0.4 TFLOP output.

I hope nintendo go for the most powerful options. The switch was somewhere between ps3 and ps4 in terms of power and going by that you would hope the successor is at least between ps4 and ps5.

If the switch feels dated now, imagine what switch 2 will be like after 7 years if it doesn't even match ps4.

I'm still happy with the switch as it is, not ready for a successor. It just fits my life too well right now

@PeteW Well the T239 mentioned in the article is much closer in power to the PS4 Pro than the base model, so we're probably pretty safe on that score.

@Magician
I get that backwards compatibility is no guarantee, although I'm far more optimistic about it than you are. What I don't get is the idea that somehow it would matter whether or not those purchases were on cartridge or not. It'll either have backwards compatibility or it won't, I don't see BC being digital only

@skywake My thought process is more along the lines of...whether or not the Switch successor will be a digital-only platform.

No back compat no buy
seriously my Switch backlog will keep me busy for a long time

Always with the rumours. I'll care when Nintendo announce something. Everything else is just people guessing.

There wouldn’t be so many rumors if Nintendo didn’t drag out this generation for far too long.

wish nintendo would use hardware that was somewhere near cutting edge, not crap they can find in a discount bin cause they are years old.....like imagine metroid prime in 4k or splatoon 3 at 120fps.... i get what they are going after but using outdated hardware leads to your hardware being to far behind....

Not sure why everyone goes on about 4K.
If you look at the most graphical console games like HFW they don’t hit true native 4K on PS4 or even PS5.
It’s the level of detail and wizardry that makes that game look stunning overall. Yes you need to hit a good 1080p, but 4K is not always needed.

Take say Mario Odyssey 2 on Switch 2.
1080p or 1440p with triple the level of detail, textures and amount on screen would look amazing.

@Almighty-Koz they don’t need fancy hardware because they actually make good games

Nintendo are working on their next generation hardware that is a fact and eventually some stuff will leak out this always happens

@KBuckley27 True, but that doesn't really say much. Every major hardware manufacturer has a section of their R&D dedicated to working on new hardware before even the old hardware rolls onto the retail market. Sony was researching technology for the PS5 not long after the PS4's release.

@Almighty-Koz Nintendo's priority should be maintaining the broad appeal the Switch has. They're not going to do that with something that costs £400-500.

Switch 2 needs to remain affordable for the audience Nintendo targets.

@Jalex__64 that sounds great in theory, but would it be economically viable? Would they have to increase the price to PS5/XSX levels?

Not interested in rumors and I'm just fine with the Switch. I really don't need better graphics or higher resolution to play games. 4K games take longer to make, take up more space and take longer to download. Honestly, I don't even need 1080p to play a game. Just make a good game and I'm there.

@skywake @Justifier @Magician Our family dinner conversation last night was actually whether or not Switch 2 (for lack of a better name) would be digital.

Seems like the right time as we’ve all had a decade now at least of all digital phones and tablets and Steam(deck) but OTOH Pokémon games are marketed to kids, and I’m not sure parents and grandparents are up for $60/70 “kids games” being digital like free apps. So it’s a tough call. Kind of weird Switch Lite isn’t all digital, kind of looks like it should be.

Whether it’s digital or physical it will be backwards compatible with Switch games, that wasn’t a long discussion, it just will be. Of course a digital only model w/ b/c won’t help people who went all physical this gen. I went all Wii U this gen, skipped all the DX versions of games I already owned.😂

If you want a very tenuous link to Switch 2 being all digital, Nintendo did just bring the vouchers back before Zelda TotK and Pikmin 4. Vouchers were gone for years in the US. Maybe Ninty doesn’t want people buying physical right before they announce an all digital Switch 2 in September. There are NO new 1st party Nintendo games after Pikmin 4. Coincidence?

@gcunit Switch 2 is probably going to be $400US, Switch 2 Lite, for kids, will be $300US a year or so later. Switch is now 6 years old, it launched at $300, the current OLED model is $350. Do you really think they would sell a Switch 2 for less than or equal to the current Switch model and price?🤷🏻‍♂️ They’ll blame Covid, inflation and Brexit. 🤑

@betterman It's unlikely, the T239 is much cheaper to manufacture than the chipsets in PS5 & XBSX, due to the less advanced architecture e.g. Larger transistors, less CPU cores, reduced VRAM etc.

It would probably be closer in cost to the Switch in 2017, relatively speaking. Remember, prices for these chips are coming down all the time, so the profit made on each console goes up pretty rapidly during its lifecycle.

@TenEighty “4K games take longer to make”

We haven’t had a new 3D Mario game in 6 years, a new Mario Kart in a decade, a new Pikmin in a decade, and the Zelda dlc into a sequel is taking 6 years. Meanwhile HFW, GoW and Spider-Man all have 4k sequels in less time than that.

Pretty sure 4k isn’t the problem, Nintendo is. But man, you could be right, we could be looking at 30 years between installments of Zelda, Mario, Pikmin and Kart in 4K.😝

For me, personally the switch 2 doesnt need to alter too much. Somewhere on a ps4 pro level of power would be good, 1080p solid 60fps with oled screen as standard. Keep the joy cons the same just change the sticks to hall effect to vanquish the drift. Full backwards compatibility with the option for devs to upgrade their software to take advantage of the new hardware if required. Get in to the 21st century when it comes to online by incorporating party chat and an easier way to meet and add new friends etc. DITCH THOSE FRIEND CODES. They already have an amazing handheld/console hybrid so just improve on what they already got.

@rjejr Yes, Nintendo has fallen back on development big time. I would also like to see a new 1080 and F-zero. And if it is too hard to come up with a new Mario game, lets just take Mario back to the castle and make a Mario 64 sequel.

I would like a handheld with projector that can put out 8k with 120 efpus, please.

And backwards compatibility up to the NES. With the ability to plug in game and watches too. Why not?

All I want is for them to keep the form factor and carry over their current online efforts and build on it considerably.

I would’ve fallen away from games more than I have if it wasn’t for Switch. I’d never play a 100hr game in front of a tv nowadays; it just doesn’t fit how I live.

@Magician
"Digital only" only makes sense when your media is a disc because the optical drive is a relatively significant cost. A cartridge slot isn't. If they can get backwards compatibility going for digital purchases there will be no reason to skip on the cartridge slot

I'm pretty confident there will be BC. I'm VERY confident that if there is BC your existing Switch cartridges will work

@skywake Your logic is sound. However, I assume Nintendo will "Nintendo" and drop the ball. Of course I wouldn't mind it if Nintendo assuage my concern.

Even if Nintendo uses a more powerful tegra, they would likely nerf it to the ground, like what they did with the x1. People still think that the Switch uses a stock x1, but in reality, it’s barely half the power of the stock one.

Thanks for saying pinch of salt and not the annoying American version 😜

Well Nintendo does desperately need a Switch successor or at the very least a "pro" model. This is the update that I have been waiting for.

@Almighty-Koz considering that XBSX and PS5 can barely do 4K at 60FPS, without sacrificing graphical fidelity in some form, I doubt that power is ever going to be high priority for Nintendo. They do however use modern technology, but they are more focused on innovative & cost effective tech they can reproduce and sell to the masses. Personally, I would be very happy if the Switch successor system had the power for constant 1080p, 60FPS and decent anti-aliaising.

@Jalex__64 Huh, if it's as powerful as a Series S then they could probably do backwards compatibility through an emulation layer, seeing as the Steam Deck is about as powerful as a PS4/XBONE and it can emulate a decent amount of switch games.

@Almighty-Koz

No need for any of it.
720p-1080p is just fine, so is 30-60fps. I just hope we get away from games being to far sub-HD, like 480p and even lower.

@sikthvash
For me a switch that could do that (consistent 60fps 1080p etc) with backwards compatibility would be the dream.

if they can pull that off while still keeping the switch form factor i feel it would be something amazing.

@RasandeRose
Yeah thats really mainly what im looking for, while preferably 60fps i would be happy as long as games are at least a stable 30 without dropping to sub-HD.

@YoshiPilot Emulation is one route they could take, that's a given. Personally, I'm hoping for a more elegant solution than that but the raw processing power will be there if the need arises, absolutely.

I can not believe that Nintendo is developing a new console during year 7 of their current one. Truly unprecedented stuff we have here.

@Mgalens absolutely! At this point, I find it hard to imagine Nintendo deviating from a straight up Switch 2 with more (Animal Crossing) bells and (Warp) whistles.

The next console needs to have backwards compatibility. I have too large of a library and quite a large backlog to not be able to carry it over to the new system. If I can bust out pc games from early 2000's and still play them on my current gaming pc Nintendo can surely implement this. They have before with the DS and the 3DS, GameCube and Wii, etc... I don't see Nintendo ditching physical media just yet either. They are very traditional (we are talking about a Japanese company after all) so I see it being a cold day in hell before they completely abandon it.

I was surprised to see in the article that some people still think this console is real easing this year. However Nintendo’s marketing approach is very different lately from what I’m used to, so I suppose it’s certainly possible.

@rjejr If it's a digital only system, then I would hope that every game you buy will run on every Nintendo system going forward.

I am ready for Nintendo to drip feed us the less popular titles for the next couple years. The Switch game catalog is already stellar. Imagine getting titles like F-Zero, Star Fox, 1080, and Wave Race, maybe even Punch out! Leaving a user base this large behind would be the biggest blunder. Now is the time for those games to shine. They know it and have stated this redefines what a console generation is.

I also have a PS5 that gets little to no use. I will probably get rid of it and stash the cash for Super Switch. I can’t be the only one thinking this!^^^

T239 will almost certainly be the chip for the next Switch since that was leaked by an Nvidia data breach.

I think it's almost paramount that the Switch 2 (or whatever it will be called) be backwards compatable with Switch. It needs to be handled the same way the 3DS handled DS compatibility. The same gamecard slot, with the Switch 2 cards being only slightly modified so that they can't be inserted into an OG Switch.

If the T239 is definitively what will be used for the next Switch then we are all in for a treat!! PS4 Pro power in the palms of my hands would be incredible.

all rumors and speculation.

@kal_el_07241 It's likely that sort of power will only be available in docked mode, with handheld performance being closer in equivalence to a base PS4 model or better, much like the 20% trade off in power we see with the current Switch.

Still, decent enough for the majority of us I should think!

@Jalex__64
Unless I am missing something, there is no leaked info about T239's performance, let alone it being 4TFLOP.

Let's not set super high expectations that may very likely not be met lol. Even the SteamDeck, as large and bulky as it is, doesn't have 4TFLOP of GPU compute performance.

@Bl4ckb100d how does this tranlate to Nintendo next hardware? Nintendo next hardware with a graphical/techinal power of a PS4?

@TheBigBlue that person state Nintendo has abandoned Tegra239 that is rumored to power they next console, and it might use this Tegra Thor for it next hardware

@TheBigBlue Nintendo is supposedly spending over a billion in online infrastructure and technology, per financial reports….no details, but I think the future should hold some substantial changes….

@PeteW Nintendo dont aim for powerful consoles since the Game Cube era, expect they next hardware to be slight more powerful to Switch, not a huge jump that everyone is expecting

@gcunit Actually, I'd argue that Nintendo needs to do both. They have two very distinct target audiences right now - kids and family who will want a circa 300 option, and then the born in the 70s and 80s crowd that will happily spank 500.

Nevermind Lite and OG. They need a Switch 2 OG and a Switch 2 Pro at launch. Switch is a proven concept now. No need to beat about the bush with Switch 2.

Switch with the power of a PS4 and PS4 Pro is perfect. I'm excited to see that, safe in the knowledge that we will see Switch with the power of a PS5 further down the road.

Why do we need it all up front right now? I don't want to skip ahead at all. I've enjoyed PS3 Mario and Zelda. I want to enjoy PS4/Pro Mario and Zelda. I look forward to PS5 Mario and Zelda!

What does it matter if Nintendo tracks a generation behind? It's just something else to look forward to. It's also smart. Nintendo benefit from lower costs, more experienced workforce and because their IP is entirely unique to their console they still get the wow factor in that we haven't seen their IP at that level previously.

There is one thing we know for sure, the APU they will have this time around is custom designed by nvidia for the next gen switch specifically, this will inherently make it way harder to hack since they're not using a stock chip and putting security measures in from the ground up.

@Giancarlothomaz It will be about 50%-100% the current capabilities docked, maybe not in handheld though since power consumption is a bottleneck.

The X1 chip is about 10 year old tech now if you include the testing phase, there are SBC's with more capable chipsets now that are much cheaper.

@nocdaes Splitting the install base has never particularly worked though, so far as I can see. Devs tend to work to the lowest common denominator so those who invested in the more powerful version never tend to feel well catered for.

But if Nintendo can get third parties to agree to ensuring that every release is dual-optimised for a standard and a pro model then I guess it could happen.

What splitting the install base does do though is create confusion for the casual market. Switch has thrived as essentially being one thing. Switch Lite has done ok, sure, and hasn't got in the way of Switch it seems, but the more differences between models the more uncertainty there'll be.

@Giancarlothomaz Yeah, I get that but Switch was somewhere between ps3 and ps4, in other words 1 generation behind as it came out between those consoles release dates.

Therefore if the switch 2 isn't somewhere between ps4 and ps5, it will feel very old very quickly.

Some gamers have a main console to compliment their switch and only give nintendo a small part of their gaming budget which is fine.

But I presume as a money making business, Nintendo wants to make as many sales as possible and have 100% of a good proportion of gamers budgets. This will also encourage third party developers to put their games on the platform (essential for a consoles success)

Power definitely isn't Nintendo's main thing or why people buy their consoles but it needs to be considered and they certainly can't afford to be more than a generation behind.

@TenEighty They've never done a proper Mario 64 remaster have they? I personally didn't like the game at all - played it after a bunch of great 3D platformers on PS2 and I just couldn't w/ those N64 graphics - but I still give it credit for being the first proper 3D platformer and it really deserves the Crash and Spyro treatment of a top to bottom remake just b/c of it's place in history.

But yeah, I'd play a "2". I'd prefer SM Galaxy 2 b/c I thought both SMG games were much better than Odyssey which had graphics but not nearly the level design of the Galaxy games. Nintendo will probably give us Super Mario Sunshine 2 instead, w/ a new and improved FLUDD. 😂

@bransby Yeah hopefully the days of console manufacturers going all "Cell processor" and screwing everything up are behind us. Don't know about "forever" but at least 3 to 4 gens, 20 years or so. Who knows what gaming life will be like then? PS VR2 doesn't even seem backwards compatible w/ PSVR. 😝

@westman98 No one's pretending to state absolutes here, these power projections are based on leaks by Linux kernel developers referred to in countless other online articles.

Sometimes it's just fun to speculate, regardless of what the eventual outcome will be.

Even a Switch that's 3x as powerful would allow most modern games to run reasonably well at 720p in handheld mode.

Speaking for myself and no doubt many others reading this, that's a pretty enticing prospect worth talking about.

I'm still having a blast with my current Switch and frankly I just want Nintendo to release one that is more powerful, fully backwards compatible and still plays physical cartridges (though I'm almost 100% a digital only gamer now). I know Nintendo likes to do something different or add gimmicks, but I truly think you make this like an iPhone. Keep the main concept going, with incremental updates and improvements to the specs and architecture.

@kingbk Took the words right out of my mouth. An upgrade on the level of the New 3DS would do just fine.

@rjejr Oh! It's my favorite Mario game besides Super Mario World.

@TenEighty Mario 64? Just curious is that like a right game at the right time thing? Nostalgia is strong for video game players. In my favorite game is Jak & Daxter the Precursor Legacy but the last time I played it I wasn't exactly blown away. FF8, yes 8 the one everyone hates, it 1 of my favorites b/c of timing.

I've never been a big 2D game player, 1 hit kills turn me right off. JRPG and 3D platformers.

Hope you get a Mario 2 or remaster, a game that famous, and well liked, does deserve something for it's troubles. We get a new Tetris game practically every year.

Worth mentioning that T239 is a Tegra chip so OreXda is almost certainly wrong here.

@rjejr Yes. I do have some ties or memories of playing it when it first came out but I think it was executed perfectly for its time and it still holds up. At least for me. The older graphics don't bother me a bit.

But can it run Crisis?

I enjoy reading about rumors like these, but I don't take any stock in them until I see the console for myself and Nintendo lists the specs. At the end of the day, for me, rumors of this type are only for my entertainment value.

If Zelda is going to come out soon what's left for the next gen Nintendo console? A Mario? The next Metroid game? What else? I'm pretty much over with the Switchs hardware and it's last gen feel regarding some games not running 60fps. For years and years I've wanted my Nintendo games look like real next gen games.

It is 2023, so there should be some kind of new Switch SKU debuting this summer. Rumors were circulating it could be an updated internal spec model. Either way, Nintendo will announce something soon, but it isn't going to be a giant jump. My guess this could have to do with a total Switch platform succession (or transition) to the next platform that will carry them for a while. My guess would be 2025 for any "successor," but I think there will be some upgraded Switch model coming out this year.

If it’s not backwards compatible there is no point. Will be a Wii U again if they leave that out.

Yeah, like others have said, most major console manufacturers are doing work on the next piece of hardware, immediately after the current one gets out the door. Nintendo has surely been working on their next machine, likely since Switch released 6yrs ago.

The 3DS had a decent likespan. Maybe Nintendo will try to shoot for 8yrs? That boils down to if Nintendo is willing to take the Switch as far as possible, despite hardware that is weaker than the other consoles.

I hope the next machine, Nintendo builds on everything the Switch has become up to this point. I feel they probably will, since the Switch is very successful, especially compared to its 2 home console predecessors, Wii, and WU. I'd say it's equal, or stronger than its handheld predecessor, 3DS.

@electrolite77
yeah for me im not expecting something to rival ps5/xsx especially if its also handheld (which i am hoping it is) but a switch which can close the power gap somewhat is what im hoping for so it should hopefully make multiplatform games easy to port and open the door to more games being viable. (especially since ps4 and xbox one are getting cross gen ports)

@electrolite77 i do get that but when the switch came out midrange phones were more powerful and had better battery life... there were tablets of the same size with more power and battery...im not saying it has to put 4k 120hz with ray tracing, but it doesnt have to be a potatoe either....nintendo has a history of a good system followed by a flop and i personally feel if their system is way way under powered again only diehard ninty fans will buy it again... snes followed by both n64(debatable on success) and gamecube wii(success) wiiU(failure) switch(success) switch2(?) point is if this thing is not as powerful as say a ps4 why bother even doing a switch 2, just wait a few years and release a better more powerful and efficient system that can kinda maybe keep up in some type of respects...im not saying cutting edge high end graphics but give me something that can constantly do at min 1080p but more likely give me 4k at 30 or 1440p at 60 or 1080 at 120hz any of those id be ok with... but dont put out another system that struggles to do 1080 at 60hz and preferably not another 1080p system...cause on a 4k setup switch looks kinda ***** even on a lg c1.... i mean splatoon is great still but ya can tell its 1080 at best.... and when theres alot of action say in a salmon run the game even chugs from time to time.....

@Xiovanni You could always just play it with a gamecube controller

Some of these comments lol. Like the PS4 is known for 1080p with 60fps gaming

Everybody needs to pump the brakes, it is fun to speculate but to this point really nothing to speculate about apart from we know a new console will launch sometime in 2025 lol

Youtubers will have a field day with this again 🙄

Backwards compatibility is a must for me. I only just started building my switch library. And it's a good one! I'm in no rush to go buy the brand new thing when Switch runs all my favourite games if that can't.

@rjejr Steam is a digital-only platform, so the Deck is not a great choice for comparison.

Edit: and they brought the vouchers back to soften the blow of TotK being $70.

@Giancarlothomaz yeah that's what's being suggested, which I think would be amazing

@Jalex__64 watch Nintendo nerf down this chipset until we have another hybrid PS3 as Nintendo next hardware

As far as I know, I don’t believe it’s possible to have something as powerful as a PS5 or XBox X in handheld form as of yet, unless you want to be holding bricks in your hands and big fans to cool the system down, some people seem to be expecting and wanting this and that’s not possible

If these are the chips Nintendo will be using for their next system then it will be more than suffice to run game’s beautifully, especially Nintendo first party games.

@old-dad
This exactly. The speculation is fun but this is getting out hand. Just wait for Nintendo to announce the new hardware when it’s ready. It’s getting sad seeing ppl torture themselves over mere rumours and speculation. Besides don’t all these ppl have immense backlogs they’ve yet to play through ? Should keep everyone occupied until the Super Switch is formally revealed. Until then, this is all just useless hearsay.

At this point, the internet has actually willed a Switch Pro / 2 into existence and now trying to settle down into a hive mind of what it is in the vain hope of giving it physical form.

@Rainz @GrailUK

Exactly ! You would think it had been months since Switch saw any 1st party release and didn't have any bangers coming over the next few months.

Only reason i can see Nintendo pursuing 4k is, so they can switch the screen into some kind of VR goggles, I still think the Switch2 will switch into 3 (handheld-console-VR Headset)

If Switch 2 will be revealed, at least there will be some official cover box for the games.

@Jalex__64 It's very difficult to compare mobile chips on the shelves with something as efficient and optimised for games as the Series S|X engineering but I know that you're trying to provide some references.

@Olliemar It's true that Switch hasn't been alive for ages but it doesn't make sense compare its life cycle with PS5 because Switch was already dated and using an old mobile chip in 2017, when the industry was expecting a more powerful mobile chip to be used. The Switch "needed" a better model right from the start. Of course, marketing was flawless, especially compared to Wii U's that was all about "upgrades" and what looked like a Wii peripheral but Switch wasn't that great to begin with.

The problem with Switch 2 not being backwards compatible with cartridges (if true) is that Switch is the console with the highest physical ratio of the last and current generation, probably because of its lack of storage and also because many Nintendo fans are physical collectors. That will be a hard pillow to swallow for Switch users with a physical collection of games because I assume that Nintendo won't be as generous with upgrades as Microsoft.

My (more informed than average) opinion is that if people are expecting the Switch 2 to have performance on par with current gen consoles, such as the Series S, let alone X, they will be extremely disappointed. If it matches the base PS4, I would be very happy. Do you really think Nintendo will put the latest, very expensive tech in their new model? They have literally never done this. They would target a price similar to the current Switch, I can't see them going above £350. And with £350 you can't have Series S performance on a system that is several times smaller. Please think.

@old-dad

These days you’re lucky if a PS4 game clears 900p and an unstable 30fps.

@Switch_Pro

I’m expecting it to be around a base PS4 when docked. Downclocked a good bit in handheld play.

But I think it will have key advantages over a base PS4. Namely hardware based image reconstruction using DLSS 2.X and access to more modern APIs.

Those two things alone will make a huge difference for an otherwise pretty pokey machine.

@Res462 "and they brought the vouchers back to soften the blow of TotK being $70"

To soften the blow, or to get people to pay $100 for Zelda TokT three months in advance and then buy another game they maybe weren't going to buy but they did b/c they had the voucher?

I was probably going to buy Pikmin 4 Day 1 anyway, it's the reason I bought my Wii U, didn't play it on Switch, so I'm good w/ the $100 for $130 worth of games, and I only paid $90 for the $100 on Newegg, but some people are buying the pair of vouchers fo r$70 Zelda even if they dont' have a 2nd.

With any luck we'll get a game worth buying announced in June for the holiday though. Can't just stop releasing games after Pikmin 4 in July. But then Nintendo got paid 10 months early for a Christmas game so it's probably ok people pay 1/2 price for that one.

Man do we have lots Nintendo Uncle talking here. If per say 4k/dlss isn't going to be on portable but NintenDoomed fandom keeps harping this to no end. And anyone whom say they no more don't know more beyond the leaked Nvidia that was chipset other know is the T239 was NVN project. One doesn't need to buy the Switch2 when it's released that is your choice. But they talk as this choice is Nintendo decision. Remember they are in the business of making and selling Nintendo. I rather see a 2023 Switch2 launch-the longer they wait the more developer they will begin to loose.

@rjejr since the vouchers expire after a year, there’s zero reason to purchase them this far in advance without knowing what games Nintendo plans to release after August.

@Res462 "since the vouchers expire after a year, there’s zero reason to purchase them this far in advance without knowing what games Nintendo plans to release after August."

"they brought the vouchers back to soften the blow of TotK being $70."

You are the person who just told me Nintendo released the vouchers to soften the blow of Zelda being $70, were you not?
And now you're saying people shouldn't buy the vouchers for Zelda until they announce their Christmas games, probably in June, after Zelda releases in May? So, people shouldn't buy 1 of the most anticipated games of the year, 6 years in the making, until a month after it releases, if they want to use the vouchers Nintendo released to soften the blow of the $70 price? 🤷‍♂️

@SwitchForce It looks like OreXda is more of a Samsung Uncle, than a Nintendo Uncle, and they've unintentionally triggered the Switch2 leak alert alarms
Nintendo won't release anything until all the components are ready, and what this leak does hint at is that there's more to T239 than just being an Orin knock-off!

@Magician I'm right there with you. If they do a upgrade, I think it needs to be compatible with existing switch cart and software. I don't want a New and innovative way to play. No thanks. I really hope Nintendo resists the urge to make it innovative. Switch is good, but needs so much refinement.

@EriXz you may be right, but I hope they don't do VR, it's a nitch thing... I really hope we don't turn into Ready player one.

Edit: I think they will do VR, but it should be an option. I don't think they should sacrifice specs of the soc to leave money for the cost of VR functions.

@rjejr No, you made a huge, illogical leap there. There’s no benefit to buying them months in advance for a game coming out near mid May. You could literally preorder the night before and get the same benefit.

why are people saying we don't have any details on the T239? it's specs are known besides clock speeds & RAM. and it's 100% going in the next Switch as it's a custom chip built for Nintendo. these things are in the pipeline for years, they just don't always leak illegally!

If it is anything other than a new switch I think it will be a massive disappointment to allot of people. I probably won’t buy it if it is not a switch 2. I have never been a huge Nintendo fan but I like the portability with decent power of the switch. I now think the Switch is one of my favorite systems ever and really enjoyed allot of the games. I am ready to move on at this point and rarely touch the Switch anymore. I might get Tears of the kingdom but also might wait to see if a new switch launches with a remastered version of Tears of the kingdom.

Also will depend on what it launches with. Certainly will launch with Tears of the kingdom remastered. Tears of the kingdom is probably almost done anyway and was done along side the current switch version. Wife would get a new system only once animal crossing comes out. No way she would miss it.

@OrtadragoonX If they can have PS4 level performance docked, especially if the system supports DLSS 2.0 (or even better 3.0), this means it will be able to get most new 3rd party games without issues. It would still take some more TLC to develop them but nothing like the original Switch. Undocked, you can expect it to perform around 50% GPU wise, going by current Switch numbers, but with a resolution drop, a good chunk of this gap is covered.

Look forward to seeing what is coming. However if this really were true then I dont think console release coming until 2025 as decision now is to late as needs to be integrated properly with system architechture , working with right level of ram and built for dev kids up to 18-24M before release for game development. So i feel this is either false rumour or we are waiting til 2025. Thoughts? Also backwards compatability as others say needs to be a must, like the PS4 this is becoming their hottest console, I feel Nintendo need to respond in a way in order to keep their consumers on board after such a successful games console (however this is my favourite and most weirdest/wackiest games company so who knows!!!)

@Jalex_64 Nintendo create consoles for their franchises not anybody else's, power is irrelevant, creation imagination and interaction is the main thing, I look at lifetime sales of consoles and still the PlayStation 2 is the leader...but internet and mobile phones were limited then, if the Nintendo Swittch was out then well...anyway onwards and upwards!!!