And as one of those people, please do some more free enhancements for S1 games. Incentivize third parties and indies to update their titles where possible.
And fix the GKC stuff by allowing installations from a slower cartridge onto the undersized internal harddrive.
@dePaige22 That's definitely one way of looking at it.
After they put out BOTW on S2 without the DLC, it was clear they were never going to "give away" the DLC (which is what you're suggesting) or intentionally devalue the base game, which is the other way you could phrase it to come to the same cost conclusion.
Because of the way gamers have changed their purchasing habits, many of those bundled "GOTY" style editions are no more (compared to years ago). You can argue this is a missed opportunity for Nintendo—and I'm not saying you're wrong—but they value their IP more than anyone else in gaming, for better or for worse.
For me, it's more disappointing that you can't purchase a "complete" physical edition of these games, despite the cartridges having ample space for the game+DLC.
They never went away from publishing new games. They will have released nearly as many (if not more) new games for their console in six months than MS and Sony have done for their old consoles in a year.
@topsekret I agree that it's stingy, but far from arrogant. This is just economics. They haven't raised the price on Switch 2 yet despite raising the price on the original Switch due to tariffs, and raised the price of other things to keep the console price down for the time being.
Every company is cutting back now, ditching rewards programs and other incentives to save a buck anywhere they can. If Nintendo put out a complete edition of this game on cartridge (and I'm not saying they shouldn't), it would be close to $100.
@Pillowpants While they may adjust the S2 release of this, would this OG Switch version not play better as many other games have done despite not receiving an update?
An update would allow it to run natively at 1080 in handheld mode on Switch 2. I'm sure they could squeeze more frames out of it as well.
Don Matrick damaged Xbox the previous generation, and this time around they permanently devalued their brand.
The biggest games they’re referring to were never made to be confined to a platform. You can chase those games at your peril, like Sony tried to do with all their live service games that have all been cancelled (minus Helldivers 2).
Microsoft is all in on games as a service now. Own nothing, subscribe forever.
The game has been out for a few days. Most of your audience doesn’t play games for a living. Actual reviewers held back their scores because they only had a week to play it prior to the embargo being lifted.
I think you do a disservice to the idea behind reviewers and reviews by putting this out so soon after release.
Instead, it should be “how are you feeling about the game so far?”
For me, Pokémon games are at their best when the story takes a back seat to playing. JRPGs in general love talking your ear off, there’s always way too much dialogue, and most of it doesn’t add much of anything. Cutscenes take you out of the experience and make you sit through (or skip through) a bunch of generic dialogue.
If I wanted to watch a movie, I’d be watching a movie, not playing a game.
@Friendly it’s not one or the other, it’s both. That you are unable to comprehend how the two fit together is bordering on being intentionally dense. They asked to put a comment on why, I did. Why you are so obsessed with it, I don’t get.
The package costs too much for what it is IMO; $70 is S2 Edition territory, but they decided not to put one out, so it’s both. They skimped on S2, charged too much, I’m waiting on the price drop as I already said.
@Friendly those games existed before the Switch 2 was announced, there is no Switch 2 edition for any of them, and all of them retailed for under $60.
I stand by my previous statement: I’m waiting for a price drop on this game because they skimped on the cartridge. And no, it shouldn’t be $80; its already $10 more than every other switch game than TOTK.
@Friendly Yeah, they did. You have to download the update instead of it being on the cart. Per Nintendo, any Switch 2 Edition has both versions on the cart.
One need only look at SE’s Switch 2 GKC releases to know that—while this statement may be true in this instance—greed, not speed, is the real answer across the board.
And Nintendo, give the okay for devs/publishers to install to the SSD/MicroSD Express slots so they can’t use it as an excuse any more.
Fun matters most to me. I get that TPC and GF should be able to deliver a fun game with striking visuals, but for whatever reason, they are not. I think it's fair to want more, to expect more, to deserve more, especially for a product at a premium price.
Ultimately, it's on consumers to change their habits if they want to see real change. I can tell you my kid DGAF about anything but playing more Pokémon.
@kmtrain83 I understand if people are upset about GKC being offered, and I think Nintendo shares some responsibility for the abundance of them right now (easy way to cut production costs on a nascent system), but the overuse of them is primarily on the third party publishers at this point.
Having no upgrade path is also on the third party publishers. I don't understand why Nintendo allows that as an option.
I won't be buying a new game from SE until something changes. Anyone who feels similarly should do the same, IMO, but that's their choice. While I have other consoles, I play more on Switch than anything due to how easy it is to take it anywhere. I doubt I'll buy a SE on a non-portable console during the S2 lifespan.
Once Ubi came out and said their game couldn't run off of the cartridge and needed the internal drive speed, I argued that Nintendo should allow devs to install games from the cartridge. This is a fair compromise, would eliminate the need to download the entire game (which would take longer than a direct install), and allow publishers to use cheaper media to produce their games. I think this is the best option we can hope for, and hopefully Nintendo wises up about it sooner rather than later.
Again, I think this situation is entirely on SE; they could allow you to buy the S1 cartridge and upgrade (paid or otherwise) to the S2 edition. There is really no difference there, you’re not losing the price difference if there is one, and it allows people who don’t have a S2 yet to know they can get a version that can take advantage of the system in the future if they wish. SE seem uninterested in doing anything beneficial for their customers, and seem more interested in hurting their own sales IMO.
@hisownsidekick They have? They always seem to report that games sold below their expectations, including the most recent Final Fantasy titles, which is why they’re putting them everywhere now instead of being exclusive to PlayStation.
@kmtrain83 Purchasing the game encourages them to continue with these scummy practices. By boycotting the game, you’re saying, no, I don’t accept this as a good way of doing business.
If you don’t care, that’s fine. I won’t be buying a SE game for the foreseeable future unless something changes (full physical release for S2 or upgrade path options).
It's nice that they put this out a couple months after the game so it's still relatively fresh, not six months to a year later, but... where is the MKW DLC/new content?
There's a lot to like about this game and how they're selling it on Switch ($60+Season Pass is a fair price). It's tempting, but the download is listed as 20.2 GBs, so for $10 more could this have been an actual Game Card and would it sell better?
Assuming a demo is a near final build… why? It’s a GKC release, and it’s probably the same demo they’ve used before. Building a demo takes time, resources, etc.
Will be interesting to see where the world is whenever this thing launches. IMO, the OS has never been Sony's strong suit. Their exclusive games are great, but their interfaces leave much to be desired. Also, what kind of physical game backward compatibility could anyone expect out of this setup? There's no way it has a disc drive. MS is in the same boat with their supposed handheld. Hell, they won't even let me upgrade my copy of Gears of War 1 Remastered from disc, despite their push of smart delivery earlier in the Series' lifecycle.
Nintendo also has the benefit of being in the second generation of a device that defined the previous one, where the majority of the library is compatible.
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Re: Nintendo: 84% Of Switch 2 Players Transitioned From The Original Switch
And as one of those people, please do some more free enhancements for S1 games. Incentivize third parties and indies to update their titles where possible.
And fix the GKC stuff by allowing installations from a slower cartridge onto the undersized internal harddrive.
Re: PSA: Don't Expect Animal Crossing: New Horizons - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition To Include The DLC
@dePaige22 That's definitely one way of looking at it.
After they put out BOTW on S2 without the DLC, it was clear they were never going to "give away" the DLC (which is what you're suggesting) or intentionally devalue the base game, which is the other way you could phrase it to come to the same cost conclusion.
Because of the way gamers have changed their purchasing habits, many of those bundled "GOTY" style editions are no more (compared to years ago). You can argue this is a missed opportunity for Nintendo—and I'm not saying you're wrong—but they value their IP more than anyone else in gaming, for better or for worse.
For me, it's more disappointing that you can't purchase a "complete" physical edition of these games, despite the cartridges having ample space for the game+DLC.
Re: PSA: Don't Expect Animal Crossing: New Horizons - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition To Include The DLC
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT
They never went away from publishing new games. They will have released nearly as many (if not more) new games for their console in six months than MS and Sony have done for their old consoles in a year.
Re: PSA: Don't Expect Animal Crossing: New Horizons - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition To Include The DLC
@topsekret I agree that it's stingy, but far from arrogant. This is just economics. They haven't raised the price on Switch 2 yet despite raising the price on the original Switch due to tariffs, and raised the price of other things to keep the console price down for the time being.
Every company is cutting back now, ditching rewards programs and other incentives to save a buck anywhere they can. If Nintendo put out a complete edition of this game on cartridge (and I'm not saying they shouldn't), it would be close to $100.
Re: The Binding Of Isaac Is Heading To Switch 2 With A Full Physical Release
@Pillowpants While they may adjust the S2 release of this, would this OG Switch version not play better as many other games have done despite not receiving an update?
An update would allow it to run natively at 1080 in handheld mode on Switch 2. I'm sure they could squeeze more frames out of it as well.
Re: The Binding Of Isaac Is Heading To Switch 2 With A Full Physical Release
I like so much about this game, but I’d like it a lot more if it wasn’t all poop monsters, etc.
It’s nice that they’re doing this, but it’s nearly a decade old on Nintendo consoles at this point.
Re: Microsoft On Its Gaming Business Going Forward: "We Want To Be Everywhere"
@the_beaver So far only one of those has been announced for S2, and it’s coming months later than everywhere else.
Re: Microsoft On Its Gaming Business Going Forward: "We Want To Be Everywhere"
What you want and what you need
Don’t mean that much to me
—MJK
Sorry, M$, but I’m done with your ecosystem.
Re: "Go Tell Nintendo" - Ex-Blizzard President Responds After Xbox Calls Exclusives "Antiquated"
Don Matrick damaged Xbox the previous generation, and this time around they permanently devalued their brand.
The biggest games they’re referring to were never made to be confined to a platform. You can chase those games at your peril, like Sony tried to do with all their live service games that have all been cancelled (minus Helldivers 2).
Microsoft is all in on games as a service now. Own nothing, subscribe forever.
No thanks. I’m out.
Re: EA Is Diving Headfirst Into Generative AI With New Partnership
Yeah, I think I am done giving money to EA.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Pokémon Legends: Z-A?
The game has been out for a few days. Most of your audience doesn’t play games for a living. Actual reviewers held back their scores because they only had a week to play it prior to the embargo being lifted.
I think you do a disservice to the idea behind reviewers and reviews by putting this out so soon after release.
Instead, it should be “how are you feeling about the game so far?”
Re: Poll: Is It About Time Game Freak Added Voice Acting To Pokémon?
For me, Pokémon games are at their best when the story takes a back seat to playing. JRPGs in general love talking your ear off, there’s always way too much dialogue, and most of it doesn’t add much of anything. Cutscenes take you out of the experience and make you sit through (or skip through) a bunch of generic dialogue.
If I wanted to watch a movie, I’d be watching a movie, not playing a game.
Re: Retro Zelda-Inspired Adventure 'Mina The Hollower' Has Been Delayed For Switch 2 And Switch
@somnambulance article states they’ll announce when they submit the game to the platform holders.
Re: Retro Zelda-Inspired Adventure 'Mina The Hollower' Has Been Delayed For Switch 2 And Switch
Simultaneously releasing on a bunch of platforms is a tall task for any team, especially an indie one.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
@Friendly it’s not one or the other, it’s both. That you are unable to comprehend how the two fit together is bordering on being intentionally dense. They asked to put a comment on why, I did. Why you are so obsessed with it, I don’t get.
The package costs too much for what it is IMO; $70 is S2 Edition territory, but they decided not to put one out, so it’s both. They skimped on S2, charged too much, I’m waiting on the price drop as I already said.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
@Friendly those games existed before the Switch 2 was announced, there is no Switch 2 edition for any of them, and all of them retailed for under $60.
I stand by my previous statement: I’m waiting for a price drop on this game because they skimped on the cartridge. And no, it shouldn’t be $80; its already $10 more than every other switch game than TOTK.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
@Friendly Yeah, they did. You have to download the update instead of it being on the cart. Per Nintendo, any Switch 2 Edition has both versions on the cart.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
@Friendly Right; it’s not on the cart. They skimped on the cartridge.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
Waiting for a price drop since they skimped on putting out the Switch 2 edition.
Re: Rumour: A Bunch Of LEGO Games Might Get The 'Switch 2 Edition' Treatment Soon
@Vegeta937 outside of MKW pricing and $20 DLC w/ upgrades bundled in, I don’t see them being any greedier than any other time.
Re: Game-Key Cards A "Sales Strategy Decision", Says Resident Evil Requiem Director
Is the strategy to not sell as many games?
Re: Review: Hades 2 - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition - A Bewitching Sequel That's A Spell Off Perfect
Hades may be my favorite Rogue-like ever, and this will likely be my GOTY. For me, this is the best reason to own a Switch/2 this year.
Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Director Highlights The Speed Problem With Switch 2 Game Cards
One need only look at SE’s Switch 2 GKC releases to know that—while this statement may be true in this instance—greed, not speed, is the real answer across the board.
And Nintendo, give the okay for devs/publishers to install to the SSD/MicroSD Express slots so they can’t use it as an excuse any more.
Re: Preview: Pokémon Legends: Z-A's Combat Shines Brightly, But Its Visuals Are Still Dull
Fun matters most to me. I get that TPC and GF should be able to deliver a fun game with striking visuals, but for whatever reason, they are not. I think it's fair to want more, to expect more, to deserve more, especially for a product at a premium price.
Ultimately, it's on consumers to change their habits if they want to see real change. I can tell you my kid DGAF about anything but playing more Pokémon.
Re: Borderlands 4 Has Been Delayed For Switch 2, Digital Pre-Orders Cancelled
Predicting January 2026.
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Checking Out Switch Online's Virtual Boy Service?
It’s NSO+EP, not NSO, and yeah, I don’t have that.
Re: Review: JSAUX All-In-One Carry Case For Switch 2 - Rugged, Robust, And Just Really Good
Nintendo has dropped the ball on cases so far. Where’s the Pokemon, Zelda, Mario, DK, etc branded cases for Switch 2?
Re: Review: Hollow Knight: Silksong - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition - Woven To Brutal Perfection
@Serpenterror I think they said it's early next year for a physical release.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Switch Comparison Video Makes Nintendo's Upgrades Clearer
@Suketoudara probably pointer controls are mapped to the mouse.
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
@kmtrain83
I understand if people are upset about GKC being offered, and I think Nintendo shares some responsibility for the abundance of them right now (easy way to cut production costs on a nascent system), but the overuse of them is primarily on the third party publishers at this point.
Having no upgrade path is also on the third party publishers. I don't understand why Nintendo allows that as an option.
I won't be buying a new game from SE until something changes. Anyone who feels similarly should do the same, IMO, but that's their choice. While I have other consoles, I play more on Switch than anything due to how easy it is to take it anywhere. I doubt I'll buy a SE on a non-portable console during the S2 lifespan.
Once Ubi came out and said their game couldn't run off of the cartridge and needed the internal drive speed, I argued that Nintendo should allow devs to install games from the cartridge. This is a fair compromise, would eliminate the need to download the entire game (which would take longer than a direct install), and allow publishers to use cheaper media to produce their games. I think this is the best option we can hope for, and hopefully Nintendo wises up about it sooner rather than later.
Again, I think this situation is entirely on SE; they could allow you to buy the S1 cartridge and upgrade (paid or otherwise) to the S2 edition. There is really no difference there, you’re not losing the price difference if there is one, and it allows people who don’t have a S2 yet to know they can get a version that can take advantage of the system in the future if they wish. SE seem uninterested in doing anything beneficial for their customers, and seem more interested in hurting their own sales IMO.
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
@hisownsidekick They have? They always seem to report that games sold below their expectations, including the most recent Final Fantasy titles, which is why they’re putting them everywhere now instead of being exclusive to PlayStation.
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
@kmtrain83 Purchasing the game encourages them to continue with these scummy practices. By boycotting the game, you’re saying, no, I don’t accept this as a good way of doing business.
If you don’t care, that’s fine. I won’t be buying a SE game for the foreseeable future unless something changes (full physical release for S2 or upgrade path options).
Re: No Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest VII: Reimagined Planned
Former Capcom dev: GKC not about greed.
SE: lol
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Direct September Predictions - What Do You Hope To See?
Well, I was right, and this poll missed bigly on most of the games.
Re: The Entire Final Fantasy VII Remake Trilogy Is Making Its Way To Switch 2
Gonna need an entire Micro SD Express cards for those three games alone.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
I already own Galaxy physical on Switch, but the only way to buy G2 on Switch (physically) is a bundle. Lame.
Those TP WW bundles next year will be $80...
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake For Switch 2 Slips Into 2026, Game-Key Card Confirmed
Is this the largest game currently announced for Switch 2? 90GB is massive.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake For Switch 2 Slips Into 2026, Game-Key Card Confirmed
@abbyhitter They added a character and content.
https://gamerant.com/final-fantasy-7-remake-inergrade-ps4-ps5-enhancement-changes/
Re: Surprise! Donkey Kong Bananza Is Getting DLC, And It's Out Today
It's nice that they put this out a couple months after the game so it's still relatively fresh, not six months to a year later, but... where is the MKW DLC/new content?
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Direct September Predictions - What Do You Hope To See?
Based on the poll results, a lot of people are about to have their hopes crushed.
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong's Upcoming Patch Will Nerf The Difficulty In Certain Areas
@Duncanballs there are difficulty options in Cuphead.
Re: Neverwinter Nights 2: Enhanced Edition Switch Physical Pre-Orders Now Live
@Serpenterror
fun fact: for a movie file, the FPS doesn’t add anything to the file size.
Re: Ubisoft Employee Explains Why Star Wars Outlaws Is A Game-Key Card
Put it on a cart with a mandatory install, then.
Re: Review: Star Wars Outlaws (Switch 2) - An Underrated Adventure, A Super-Solid Port
There's a lot to like about this game and how they're selling it on Switch ($60+Season Pass is a fair price). It's tempting, but the download is listed as 20.2 GBs, so for $10 more could this have been an actual Game Card and would it sell better?
Re: 007 First Light Is More That Just Spies And Style, Launches March 2026 On Switch 2
@SplatRay001 no, they got the pricing wrong. $80 is only for the DE, the regular game is $70.
Re: 007 First Light Is More That Just Spies And Style, Launches March 2026 On Switch 2
Whelp, definitely not going to be there day one.
Re: The Force Isn't Strong With Star Wars Outlaws On Switch 2, Initial Impressions Suggest
Assuming a demo is a near final build… why? It’s a GKC release, and it’s probably the same demo they’ve used before. Building a demo takes time, resources, etc.
Re: Rumour: Sony Is Gunning For The Switch 2 With A Handheld, Dockable PS6
Will be interesting to see where the world is whenever this thing launches. IMO, the OS has never been Sony's strong suit. Their exclusive games are great, but their interfaces leave much to be desired. Also, what kind of physical game backward compatibility could anyone expect out of this setup? There's no way it has a disc drive. MS is in the same boat with their supposed handheld. Hell, they won't even let me upgrade my copy of Gears of War 1 Remastered from disc, despite their push of smart delivery earlier in the Series' lifecycle.
Nintendo also has the benefit of being in the second generation of a device that defined the previous one, where the majority of the library is compatible.
Re: CD Projekt Reveals 75% Of Cyberpunk 2077 Switch 2 Sales Were Physical In Opening Month
Other publishers take note.
Re: Video: We've Played Cronos: The New Dawn On Switch 2
So it's coming out as the same time as Silksong... I feel for them.