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@Real_Obsi I completely agree with you there. I research any series, play the games I want to and otherwise sometimes try to understand the communities or dev diaries and things, but not always, so I get a better understanding of whats going on even if I'm still a player and not knowing 100% what is going on.

I still give the good with the bad. Pikmin 4 did fair, I think it was good in some areas but wasn't in my eyes in others but hardly the worst.

I don't have context for a Mario Odyssey dev time and I forget how long that team's games have been due to all the restructuring Nintendo has had and all the different games that come out between teams, compared to other studios more clear IP focus and ones we see talk to us players/at the top. But I'm learning as I go.

It wasn't a Prime 4 type restart situation for DK Banaza anyway. If it took them like BOTW long to make DK after Odyssey, by all means, they had a lot of ideas, or a lot to get working.

To me the destruction and other details looks like it would have taken a long time and the effort is clearly there no doubt about it, like when Minecraft took longer to do it's world regeneration updates I had respect for them delaying them as I knew it wasn't an easy task, I wasn't a fan of other updates but I could tell but some things of scale, but even then maybe other details in the game did as well to get to what the game is. We don't know other then what we have seen in the Direct and prior trailers either.

So much for proper remakes. Like Square or Forever care I guess. Well at least Front Mission 2 was discounted on Switch with no end date/finitely up to the release of Front Mission 3 for a long time.

But yeah otherwise this is a terrible cost saving and lazy use of tech measure.

What a waste of time and money let alone reputation/disrespecting your audience and thinking "they won't notice their nostalgia blinded and will eat this stuff up".

Do these companies REALLY think that? Let alone newcomers that want to get into the games like I did and had my issues with Front Mission 1, but still felt it was a fair remake.

But this, this is disgusting they think they can bother to do this and go 'oh people didn't really want these games as much as we thought', 'they won't notice our corner cutting or we get less sales game per game' when it's a just a matter of 'we want more respectful effort put onto these sorts of projects, not to fool us with garbage'.

I think it's down to artstyles/the games themselves or production quality/how they were transported more then anything. I think it's fine.

Or expectations were too high.

They take their time, why panic over nothing. I don't care if Mario or any other characters are on the cover I care if the mechanics are compelling. If they are, I will support them.

The niche ones were so I supported those as like Id' easily be able to get copies of those later. The mainstream ones always sell, so I can get them whenever I feel like it.

Devs take time, Youtubers want views and to mess with audiences due to whatever IPs they can talk about that audiences eat up of the few IPs they play.

I'd rather devs take their time, make whatever they want with any characters or worlds (as long as it's creative and not bland/repetitive garbage mechanics or game design in any way, really easy to do yet so many fail but Nintendo is hit and miss for me but usually hit so far of old and new era stuff just some like Pikmin 4 disappointed).

Otherwise the sky is the limit, let devs make games and take time, make creative projects Nintnedo devs can.

Well when we finally understood how Virtual ones were like loaning to a friends without the physical they don't give it back or re-writeable.

Companies want their lack of production costs and cuts to eshops or want their launcher purchased games money. They can get stuffed for all we care. We are not stuck in the past we are stuck in what's fair to not only us but many people in the years to come.

They can have their control/creation, but they also do whatever they want and we can in our ways too. Want to play as children we will act like children or smart children about what happens to any media.

While the Game Key Cards are just DRM excuses and however servers go like Wii, Wii U, 3DS eshop downloads before them, for third parties to make 2000/2010s like PC Games for Windows Live, Xbox One 2013 and more level excuses and tricking the many physical types not just casuals and we aren't easily fooled we looked deep and third parties seem to think were that stupid when many of us are very collector, historian or other self aware, you bet we were wanting it on the cards.

Third parties think were stupid, we are far from it and are willing to open, spread word and tell them to go get stuffed before they think their illusions work. They don't. Were smarter then they are.

It's like a teacher being locked to their choices to do things of policies or conditioned of their ways of thinking and can't think around what they have always lived by and can't deal with things too much for them, the students are smarter and don't put up with garbage.

Good to know. I'll keep it in mind when I test it in many years time.

If only Grid Autosport wasn't so boring at times but otherwise runs great on Switch and better then using my PS3 disk that errors all the time.

Sad the digital triggers make it hard for me to play though.

Pretty cool. I'd say go for different custom artworks but even still, art/case designs, pretty fair I'd say.

The GameCube was more mechanically interesting, I don't put nostalgia on things, I put quality. It had quality like PS2, Dreamcast and Xbox did. It was good, it had it's handle, games were better.

So reading a nostalgia article or how well it handles them on Switch 2 is fine, but I also am just going to skim it and move on.

Modern gaming sucks. I refuse to also use NSO I'd rather emu GameCube games or buy the third parties or niche cheap I want. That's it.

NSO needs the more interesting GameCube games, licensing or otherwise. Even PS+ has more interesting I'd rather buy then care for Xbox back compat at this point because the many on there were fine but yeah. PS+ isn't 'great' either'.

To me retro has so many games with eh licensing, dead developers/publishers or whoever has them or source code to tell if companies will offer anything for them to see it as viable or source code available (as a sad but fair reason) that I might as well look them out myself as none will offer what I want.

Why would it be popular? We know how it functions and some like myself wanted other gimmicks not a mouse pointer that I hate the positioning of, it's a mouse pointer, so I already don't care how it's repurposed, and a 100th way to socialise via Game Chat. So yeah, what was there to get excited for?

If games use it as another function sure, but like PS4 share button I hate it (I use it to record some things but socialising first mentality makes me mad and game design sucks so why would I want to record or talk to people? Devs/console makers are dumb). I'd rather use the touchpad in many ways even. I hate share buttons. I want inputs not socalising menus for the 100th implementation humanity. Give me tech first, not garbage we don't need.

Nintendo offering Tetris 99, Mario 35, F Zero 99 and more are fair retro attempts at live service games so to me those are fine to have. They aren't effecting the niche or popular Nintendo first party games at all compared to Sony or Microsoft or other third parties working with Nintendo or go to all platforms.

If the camera was like Playroom/Playlink (Everybody 1-2 Switch 10 years earlier and a whole range of games, Hidden Agenda is the best or that PS5 tactics RPG will be as well) on PS4 or Eye Toy like PS2 or PS Eye for PS3, or Singstar or Buzz or Labo anything else or something, interesting uses for AR or otherwise I'd be ok with it.

If it was good for dancing for say Just Dance, or VR or something interesting, I would maybe consider it or go that's cool and not use it but respect it.

But the Camera/Game Chat are pathetically boring of the recording/streaming angle and I have no interest in that at all.

A Recording feature for 30 seconds to PS/Xbox for a few minutes was fine enough. But doubling down on it. Come on. Nothing annoys me more then social features on Xbox One and cutting in 2017 the TV TV TV feature. Why because I liked Windows 8/Wii U so you bet I was NOT HAPPY about social features getting priority and OS changes over the years also removing it. I hate socialising being a factor over genuine tech ideas. You have 100s of ways to communicate. WHY!

This was the same I felt with the Share button on the Xbox Series after the greatness that was Impulse Triggers. You expect me to get excited over a button to a solution it solves as quick access. No, I don't get excited over that. Useful yes, but the ONLY thing to add to a controller, no.

Switch 2 Pro Controller with a mic port (like Wii U had and PS4/Xbox have had as well) sure that's fair for the third party Pro controllers programmable buttons angle too, it's not exciting but it's still good to have that I can respect it. I had considered the PS4 back button attachment but didn't bother. I have nothing against those and remapping buttons I think that's a great feature. But I would also like something more exciting too to allow games to do something gameplay exciting not just push other safe things instead.

I don't care about online gaming family, streaming, whatever, the games are already boring to play, if the gameplay was good sure but they aren't. Gimmicks make me care more, as gameplay is either good or bland. Most are bland so to me if gimmicks don't save it, what else is there for me to get excited for? Retro games that did great mechanics instead and not supporting the modern industry's boring direction.

To me this is just Yoshi's island again? I get yeah Donkey Kong has Pauline and all that but really a Yoshi's Island dynamic, did we really need one?

Ok but kind of eh story and character use cases in the game to be honest. Not interested for that.

If the game was relying on that and didn't have the destructable worlds (depends how it's used of course), I wouldn't buy it that's for sure.

Fair article. But unless games make any animals, aliens, robots, snowmen/other objects/beings or insects interesting of movesets I don't care how they are included, joke/silly articles or not.

NPCs or playable cows, need good movesets or else I don't take it seriously, sorry.

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Switch 1 I think was a fair balance of good enough timing to get such IPs again, of other time on the market relevance IPs or sequels or a port, that weren't too far along people had played them, discount waited or otherwise considered them compared to later sales.

Skylanders, Just Dance and more besides fair Indie 3rd party ports. Besides the portability/console hype, financial situation, awareness of the product by normies, and more. Besides the fewer games then this time around and besides the Wii U marketing.

If 3rd parties don't know enough about their teen/adult audiences or how 'it's in my mind I may get it discounted or not think about it but may with a port/remaster in a few years focus on it' and just go oh they will buy anything again immediately which doesn't work, merch, games, everything, that their narrow minds want that's on them.

Not the human that is more particular on price, timing, if it actually fits with particular interests them (or timing of awareness they encounter something) or not among other awareness or things they themselves do that companies can't figure out and no one can, but they can try, but don't work those people out at all. They go off social media/data and don't understand people well enough to market to them clearly.

They have the business understanding but not the psychology of people well enough to go oh we can't measure for that, is this worth the effort to port this or not, make another game, etc, but we can try. They just don't. Whether online or offline types either. Or besides other places to go if they pay attention enough which some may. Or those that inform the uninformed.

So if you wanted say Mario Kart, Fast Fusion/Dustblood (whenever that is) your good. Exclusives aren't my point here, the business practices are.

@kalosn Agreed, that stigma and yeah 1st party more interesting, timing of 3rd parties and more. Wii U learning from among understanding audiences they clearly don't (not saying Nintendo only I mean in general any platform, timing, those interested in them again/at all or discounts).

Even if we put aside the Nintendo fans only buy Nintendo games. I think it's just the 8 months later release type thing the Wii U had. Gamepad gimmicks weren't doing it for people, and late releases people play, got discounted on other platforms and more. You can't guess people with particular tastes like say gameplay being appealing or only fantasy games or other platforms they seek stuff and their reputation mindset to things or whatever else.

The way they have approached this is things they don't account for, or won't/can't.

Third parties don't understand their audiences only that they want it to sell and push their values and target teen/adults, nothing more in depth as it's hard to work off that data or read signs of people at all it seems past who they mix with or their minds.

When they seem to forget how people think, and why they would need or want their product, whether it be the discounts on other platforms, reputation of the games persisting as well, the types of audience that fits a particular thing of tastes, timing (if in a few months/discounts or otherwise and they still weren't interested, why would they compared to years later but that doesn't make them money does it) and more, not just oh it's a Nintendo fan or teen/adult or the hype of it's a new platform.

It's the more niche audiences or particular things third parties 'don't look at' that is hard to cover but very important. Nintendo wouldn't sell to me unless it had gameplay/gimmick use or a weird artstyle angle. Yet I buy their niche IPs (their mainstream ones later) and the Vita ports, my Switch has no mainstream Switch game yet I'm waiting on them. I'm not their target audience but I still contribute in my own niche weird way. Other then a few reviews for platinum coins or a few eshop purchases I don't register really. So I fit in the anomaly or maybe slight Nintendo fan category then wider audience category.

But the other factors I brought up, are more valid then anomalies like myself or Nintendo fans.

Besides Nintendo fans or those testing the hardware differences of those games, who wanted these games 'again', full price or on another platform, the price, game key cards or already were focused on Mario Kart and their Switch 1 library.

Wii U many went hmm 8 months or so later, (compared to Switch where it was a larger jump of time to focus on those games ported/remastered), time can play a factor too when people think about something. Gamepad gimmicks, audiences that fit or don't. Among other factors i keep forgetting. Besides the Wii U marketing as well.

Lol, companies are desperate for more money on any platforms they haven't put it on yet. Game Key cards and Mario Kart are not the only factors.

Also early console numbers, 3rd parties wanting 10 mill when the console isn't even 10 mill yet either. XD

The fact I have a more aware thoughts (Nintendo life also having the same thoughts & others comment 1 out of the 4+ factors says a lot XD) regardling this then others says a lot about human stupidity/psychology people ignore about business. Timing/understanding people to the finest detail is a big one players/business miss.

3rd parties are so narrow focused I immediately have plenty I know where they went wrong.

Yet like Wii U (like many PS3/360 3rd party type games few appeal to at launch/in general) they seem to forget from 10 years ago (let me guess they will do the same/ignore Switch 2 audience not even for sales but just for demographics taking too long as well right.

3rd parties we love to laugh at), while Wii U had bad marketing, concept people still don't understand (let alone Gamepad features wouldn't sell people on it, some people but not all/replaying said games again aka timing), even if they use their phones for dual screen uses without thinking about it.

Wii U was an easy thing to remember for its' factors/ones that apply to 3rd party releases on Switch 2. Yakuza 1 & 2 even, Wii U wasn't well known/even then it was Nintendo die hards/family audience console/gimmick/collector types, same with Vita Indies as I think less Nintendo fans cared for Indies on Wii U.

Others come later when enough comes out that appeals to them.

I did when Vita ports of niche ecchi games, 1st party Nintendo niche games did.

So unless it fits a weird angle of audience appeal, I think 3rd parties were over-expecting/seem to ignore obvious factors. Yet they also played it safe due to the Switch 2 being a different launch period then the other consoles or when other games would be ready. So what were they expecting. XD

Let alone audiences. They can look at demographics of kid to adult all they want but if they don't pay attention to the niches of audiences, or die hards/any other then that's their problem.

They just go oh new platform, oh decent teen/adult audience games to put on here were desperate for money. They are so dumb. Mario Kart/console prices/other factors aside even. 3rd parties were too narrow focused then on other factors that apply here.

It's a new launch, what is your audience, Nintendo die hards. If percentage of those aren't into 3rd parties on other platforms, got them on other platforms if cared or besides tech interested people to compare. What were 3rd parties expecting?

Dumb. XD

Nintendo audience or ones that got those games would have on other platforms because months later/discounts purchases not new full price on a new platform.

Other than Dustblood (only 3rd party here that will appear whenever & audiences it appeals to/disappoints, it does but still NEW then ports) or Mario Kart (& other 1st party later), what was there to get excited about. XD

Like with anything, they seem to forget how customers think, or only see social media audiences/devs with good internet & forget players conditions, they can't read others it's hilarious. The wider picture is lost on them in many ways.

Idiots. They are so up themselves of 'we have an IP, get an audience', but seem to forget the specifics are so obvious from a mile away. XD

The right one looks awful, wow what bonus details and sunlight. Looks bad.

Offering a Switch 2version sure. It will run better then Mojang is offer

Like the 1.14 artstyle it worked but eh.

Combat was hit and miss.

Other major changes were hit and miss.

1.18 was eh, the time they took was understandable, still hated it. I hate world gen updates and I hate generic mob vote (Mojang uses of them and players wants of certain ones being worse then others)/end village/ore stuff from players, they have no creative ideas worth listening too.

1.16 Nether wasn't as bad as 1.7.2 I hated 1.7.2, I still hate that update.

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Gimmicks with the hardware/software use that yes Sony/Microsoft have offered theirs but differently, and with however much effort or care to remove them over time, or even other adult IPs Sony/Microsoft won't offer as they don't suit their standards so told those devs to get stuffed.

I don't own a single mainstream Nintendo Switch game (will at some point but not right away, so I am more an anomaly Switch player) only niche 1st party and 3rd party, all for teens/adults, so if they want to say Switch is a kids console, by all means. I own many kid friendly games and reviewed a few for platinum coins. Doesn't mean I don't primarily use it for teen/adult games same as PS/Xbox platforms mix of kid friendly and teen/adult games as well.

That and when Nintendo's IPs have more gameplay interesting ideas and Sony's and Microsoft's bore me to death and are too story focused and boring gameplay wise for me so I gave up on Ratchet or GT series potential being not garbage let alone others, XD That's on them for their current strategies. I can use whatever device for any audience of games I want.

We don't see Sony offering a handheld besides Portal to play it safe and see the potential (no dual screen either) or cater enough to Vita/PSVR2, only just enough. Wii U Nintendo still even if not the best enough support to it at least. Sony moves on too quickly and we just eat up what we can get on them.

In the beginning with the SNES CD sure, but nowadays in competition, I mean hardware wise for power level sure but other peripheral type use cases, how are they not?

In terms of people's first console, a family console, their different direction or just cheaper then the competition sure.

But Nintendo isn't just covering a demographic thing, Sony/Microsoft clearly make for all types, not just oh kids/adults it's people into all sorts of other things. To market share quantify that sure it doesn't appear on charts but even still.

In terms of Xbox where it's Japan where it's less known due to Microsoft's decisions/marketing issues or how they don't appeal to the Japanese, or doesn't even exist in other countries where Sony/Nintendo offer then yeah no doubt.

Sony has their audience/tech focus differences but they are still consoles. So his context or not you can see it many ways what he means as being factors, and misunderstand it. I'll take the misunderstand side as his point is clear but also eh I don't know they are more then just the clear points he is making there.

If everything is power no wonder devs/pubs are boring people, & we get boring consoles/games with dumb mentality behind it.

Just cut VR & all the other projects & make them as boring as possible Sony why don't you. XD

I know every tech/peripheral idea both have done and give mention of them firsts or how they used them. Failed consoles or successful ones.

But Sony/Microsoft staff former or current say things just makes me laugh. It's their fault they made me give up on their garbage current strategy to move to Nintendo primarily and go retro or keep the PS4/Xbox One around for other uses. I'm not upgrading to their garbage consoles. They haven;'t given me a single game, peripheral or OS reason to want to use them. I don't even have to buy them and I refuse to buy myself or touch the ones I have access to from others around me. Make a decent system/games and I'll use it.

I don't think Switch 1 or 2 are perfect but they were more appealing even for my issues with them. I prefer the Wii U even.

If were talking audience too. Uh what kid besides pushing part parental controls is buying a Switch for adult audience games Sony doesn't allow on their platform while others they do?

Exactly. Kids/family console, Sony/Microsoft are idiots as usual.

Are they catering to different teen/adult audiences yes, they are.

Many of us adults may want to play family friendly games not because they are family friendly but quality comes from them, or even the Vita ports or PS4 ecchi games Sony says no to. Or many others on Steam even.

I bought up a Vita, Wii U, 3DS, Switch for a reason, because Sony/Microsoft were offering nothing of worth. So I keep my PS4/Xbox One as bonuses.

Sony/Microsoft can cater to whatever they want of audiences they pushed away over the years, or even committee type audiences but the rest of us went to Nintendo not just for it being a family friendly games console with cough quality games Sony hasn't provided to the same way of treating their IPs.

If they show off the mechanics well, whatever editions and such sure.

Maybe 1 look at a level/the core mechanics would be nice.

As do we need to see story?

Whatever business and whatever of the case they are willing to show off.

If we see a Pikmin 4 situation of marketing and I go well this game sucks due to core design changes, ok ideas that are good but not enough to elevate the product or padding that's in excusable then well I can easily avoid DK Bananza.

Nice to see. Seeing as I only have the Switch as my option as no PS4 version I'll be open minded how this runs besides the PS1/Vita versions on store or not.

@ottoecamn Besides the Scott's Stash launch video, review incoming I guess at some point. Or Gubble/Flingsmash. He has to do them at some point not just reference them. They could be L button never happens ones though. So the community will do it. Or well others already do videos on such games anyway, first impressions or reviews.

Haven't seen the Nitro Rad revival one of Croc yet. But he did the Ty ones when those came around.

They seem fair. Haven't seen the Scott Stash video of the launch.

No PAL option (feels like what you'd expect of PS3/PSP/Vita releases, just the NTSC US version only whether for HD collections or PS1 type eshop releases hmm, I get there is enhancements or teams have to work with what they can for those they get licensed to and what effort they put in but even still.

PAL OSTs matter to me, did with Spyro as well with how Tree Tops or High Caves were, those alternate ones were way better then NTSC for example or voice acting/in general versions in PAL is always nice to have the UK/other region voices too, come on. Even Sony or Nintendo offer easy version and at cheaper prices yet however much effort.

I get third parties do their best with what they can work with/are given of source code or the engine and other aspects but even still. It's sad.

Even then odd licensing companies do is just a challenge like Battle Engine Aquila on Xbox? Why was it PS2 only Atari? Source code issue? Who knows? Among other examples out there.

I can pay less for the PS1 versions on Vita (if still there that is and of course they aren't the same amount of effort put into them as the modern ones of course I get that but still THIS much for all 3 it's a bit hmm) and PS5/Switch/Xbox Series only, seriously? Well that's quite annoying, Switch is more pricey sigh. What is with this third party based on demand/users or otherwise logic to the store prices. It's ridiculous.

Glover did the same, Croc I think was the same. Like seriously.

Don't have Switch 2 but hate OLED (even on my phones) so LCD/others are fine by me. Also VVR/VSync, etc.

People can want nice things but:

Artstyles should do enough of the job (just like any underpowered console, artists/animators/programmers being smart about it then wanting MORE power & being less creative, I already see it in gameplay & visuals are very hmm of creativity of artstyles as it is, some are good others are hmm not just the screens, cameras and more to factor in devices, I literally looked at 2015 era phone photos and modern and yeah the differences are so minor to how it processes it or whatever else the device was doing, the focal shot and more) more then the screens I also think but getting into other factors.

I hate HDR, RT, Motion Blur and other graphical techniques anyway so to me it's up to artstyle or smart design in other areas dev staff, not excuses besides how the hardware offers it. Switch 2 is new we will see how they use it over time.

CRTs they worked around it's benefits of blur back then, they can work around HDR on/off as well. Or 2D on modern TVs in mind too.

People can want 'fancy' but won't pay up. I can easily go with the non-OLED. I don't want it anyway. So to me I'm fine it's cheaper/not included. People that wanted OLED Switch 1 got that.

I ignored it. I can wait for Switch 2 (enough games/pre-owned price) for LCD/better stand (ignoring OLED Switch 1) & do touch/handheld when I feel like it due to how often I TV/handheld use has changed then my 2021 purchase handheld use.

If it's LCD first/OLED later I think more early titles/all titles will look good on both no matter their life time. On Vita they look worse because of the OLED first (or how cheap Sony went with the LCD 2000 model so I don't have a definitive answer here)

Sure Nintendo has always done a fair job with artstyle/screens regardless of viewing angles with screens on 3DS/otherwise let alone the DS/3DS larger screens even or the smaller ones like Switch Lite. They work but readability and produced colours or particles or otherwise eh it varies. Also we aren't dealing with backlights or not anymore either as they are standard and not Game Gear/Lynx and others have them and Nintendo ones didn't besides Gameboy Light anymore.

I even have to question how washed out/how stylised a game is and to not always praise saturated looks as in way other artstyles could be better really.

1.I hate OLED brightness, detail and lighting, if I hate DS Lite brightness settings or smartphones, yes I hate OLED, AMOLED and all that stuff, I can't say for MicroLED or MiniLED or those but I am totally fine with LCD and good enough viewing angles.

2.while I don't expect the same and it was Sony's decision and may not effect the Switch the same way as Sony did cut costs with Vita 2000, as much I think it could due to how Vita 2000s LCDs or processing details are.

The early titles with the Vita 1000 in mind look pixelated & awful on Vita 2000s, may vary on PS Vita TV which is a 2000 with TV first/many 1000 era titles using the handheld aspects/blacklist or modded whitelisting I think vary of still being visually fair on TVs either.

PSPs I can't comment on 3000 model screens but 2000, 1000 look fine TV out/regular handheld use.

But on Vita 1000 OLED covers up details & I hate brightness it has.

So again repeating this here, if it's LCD first & OLED later I think more early titles or all titles will look good on both no matter their life time.

Like Yars, this is not Adventure.

If they could make remakes of the ones in Atari 50, this one is just another insert metroidvania type.

Why is it not top down or first person or actually reflecting on it.

No purchase.

I think Lunar Lander Beyond (not bought but seemed fair for what it was) looks better then these excuses for metroidvanias are for Yars/Adventure do.

I mean if you want why not another Trevor McFur or another Atari Karts or any other Lynx, Jaugar, 2600/7800 IPs even. Or something original?

Do these companies actually think that far outside the box. I'm not exactly a fan of this Infogrames Atari at all and never have been.

Other then Bubsy I may try out, I don't see Atari making anything that exciting really.

Renaming another game with Adventure is just dumb. This is Starfox Adventures like renaming for no reason and without the characterisation either.

I don't care what you name it. No purchase Atari. Other then Atari 50 or Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic (the others are garbage and RCT3 is ok but plays worse then Classic does with control scheme it's atrocious, get used to sure but RCT 1 and 2 Classic is way better) you haven't really provided a compelling mix of revivals and anything else published is fine but not my thing really anyway.

@sixrings Oh of course no doubt. It's why I didn't even want to compare to MKW as it's not even worth comparing.

Price wise sure, content wise it's very unfair to do so. It's why I compared to others in the series or would other arcade racers of the time not a modern game. I wouldn't even compare them to other MK games as it's just a different genre and unfair to do so of content even in those games to Ridge Racer 1/arcade.

Or didn't compare to kart racers let alone just value to money. But more style or same series or so.

My expectations are different, like with any games with a good story mode or singleplayer campaign or good progression or mechanics or whatever. I research a lot of 5/6th gen racers on N64/PS1/PS2 and other consoles a lot, not so much Indie ones as I find they don't cover what I'm looking for but many people may want those types so I didn't want to discredit them just because I don't like the ones that release (as I said in my comment prior).

But yeah Ridge Racer ACA is not a bad release by any means it looks good for what it is, it came out when it did, it has arcade style fun to be had. Like anything to do a time trial or a high score it is fun for that just like any game with that design besides how Ridge Racer ACA is (as I am no expert on the game and it's pretty clear of that).

If we see the others by all means I think that would be great.

I just went with what platforms I know already exist of console releases as that's info I can go on then speculation or information that may be out there I haven't seen yet.

Arcade releases of Ridge Racer I am not familiar with so I didn't mention them.

Like I said I am not an expert on the series at all and it shows. So thanks for letting me know of other arcade Ridge Racer releases. I'll have to look them up.

So my approach is very much based on what I have come across in research, not someone that was around when these games came out when they were new or researching enough corners of the internet to find EVERYTHING about the series mobile, console, arcade, etc.

Arcade is not something I usually look into. I only know of few arcade releases for certain types of games racing or otherwise. Even Thrilldrive by Konami or the Sega arcade only ones look cool even and I'd love to see on ACA.

@nin10doom No problem/your welcome.

I research a LOT of arcade, simcade and sims racing games on old (mostly N64/PS1/PS2 and other consoles of those eras) and modern console platforms, mostly third party ones that got left behind. Only looked a bit into Switch or GameCube/Wii ones.

Not so much the retro ones but there are plenty out there if your looking for those kinds compared to a Ridge Racer type and to not go so modern.

That or arcade like Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2010 remastered which to me is a Burnout 5. I prefer the Wii version but that one is not a priority for EA at all.

Gear Club Unlimited 1 and 2 are quite fair of point a to b type. But the Tracks Edition has a few circuits that are alright.

I could recommend videos on Indie racers if you want to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kzP-0SLs64&pp=ygUXZG92ZSBpbmRpZSByYWNpbmcgZ2FtZXM%3D,

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Like Grip or RISE: Race The Future are pretty good for what they are of arcade racers with their own ideas/direction to them.

Wreckfest is good for a bunch of goofy vehicle types like buses, lawnmowers, a motorised sofa.

Otherwise I guess things like Hot Lap Racing (I had my eye on since last year or the year before, it's pretty good) or Grid Autosport or some I think retro ones like the Formula 1 or other retro style racers. Depends what your looking for really as Switch has a lot.

I think many like the Formula Legends that had a trailer recently, many like that have been around the past few years.

Even Atari I think published a retro style one not to long ago too.

You could also try searching the racing games category on the Switch eshop and see what you can find of mixed to pretty fair quality.

Fair round up. I have said enough my disappointment with the gimmicks, no care for graphics techniques and all that but have praised DK/Kirby trailers.

It's a 5/10 for me. The specs are a fair jump but also I didn't care whether it was 5GB of RAM or 12GB. The 12GB helps a lot no doubt but at the same time eh. The other specs are fair no doubt but I mean unlike the Switch as a HD handheld besides phones I mean. The gimmicks/IPs have to be there or else I don't care.

PS5/Series S and X are boring as every because the 1st party, 3rd parties and gimmicks are sub par to the most boring I've ever seen for a console even compared to others building consoles up and had peripherals then being built into the console like these days software or hardware gimmicks.

Games are just so pathetic and gimmicks are 'there' but not as compelling as past ones.

LCD versus OLED, I hate OLED lighting and colours don't impress me, I hate OLED as much as high nit brightness or the DS Lite type of brightness upgrades, and games will be better built and look less blurry as well, have you seen the Vita 2000 experience, OLED first was a bad idea. Impressive sure, in the later area when cutting costs I think Sony probably did it wrong and not the LCD's fault but Dev's fault but they didn't care at all and you could tell which was in mind first anyway.

So LCD first is more ideal for them to focus on things not the OLED and the gaps LCD has looking worse. Doing it later allows enough to be LCD in mind and enhanced for OLED. Not look like garbage for most if not all of it's life with OLED.

So to me it's a fine upgrade but not an exciting one to me.

More games will come as they always do of course.

Price point and strategy are very hmm. Furukawa to me is not someone I was that excited for when Switch 2 was going to be a thing and I'm correct on that. The gimmicks and magnets are left over ideas or new ones for them but kind of whatever and the rest is or doesn't need to be as wacky but I would have liked to see a better Iwata level execution here but oh well.

Not that the leader changes much in the hardware or games, but can and it kind of shows even if more other areas of the company or regional leaders too.

But that was never going to happen. Even if we got NON Furukawa and another staff member that had broad ideas they would allow, I don't know who or how that would have gone and I doubt we would see any in the way Iwata did. Iwata wasn't perfect but he attempted things and had some bold ideas and I respect that. So the engineers had far more better ideas I think even if they are still going with them I just find them less compelling.

But I'll get one like did Switch 1 late when enough games or pricing when pre-owned to get one is right.

Otherwise I don't really care.

Price, whatever branding and whatever device category ranges. Who really cares.

People bhy whatever IPs, or whatever services they have of relevance to them.

It's a handheld, with Xbox branding. So what. It isn't the delayed handheld to fit with next gen consoles.

Price range or IPs.

I got a Switch 1 for sure Nintendo titles but also Vita ports being more accessible then going the Vita Asian English route unless desperate but back then it was more the only way to access many of them. So to me Switch 1 was idle for those types of 3rd parties.

So for many people if they didn't want PC and were limited to a Switch for certain IPs that are niche, they'd get a Switch.

So a Switch 2 price point to just more recognisable then the others part of their niche community, it's fine for them to have those.

I like niche stuff, I don't buy them but I do some things. But most i do research on. The majority of people don't need to or don't care. So those that do, will buy them or research them/remember them.

Who remembers Pocket PCs/PDAs? No one only tech enthusiasts then or now and businesses that used them back then. They weren't priced low enough and with so many device categories, most people barely if ever noticed them before the iPhone.

Phones being for socialising or cameras for capturing moments versus the iPhone/Android, etc. does enough of the general use cases, I mean as if it wasn't obvious. Who bought a smartphone from the 90s/pre 2007, or heard the term.

Who thought the OG DS looked like a PDA (or was their first touch screen experience). Very few to nobody.

That and why people don't notice besides a small audience for GPD/Aya Neo ones before Steam Deck/OEMs jumped on board because most people hadn't even heard of them, let alone gamers don't pay attention to niche consoles/handhelds or anything tech related because it's not gaming first focused.

Who knew about touch screen CRTs? Or Windows 3.1 Pen Computing, XP Tablet edition, no one cares these days besides tech enthusiasts and most people didn't experience them, or who did what first only, what is in front of their view for lifestyle/benefits them or other factors.

I like niche devices, but this is a branding thing and a who cares just like the Push Square article of the same thing with less comments too.

I'm confused, article says singleplayer yet this trailer jumps between matches and I assume part of the world gaps.

I mean is this a Star Wars Battlefront/Unreal Tournament kind of matches singleplayer?

Or is this like I assume Splatoon 3 was with the desert/and customisation trailer making me THINK it was an open world and this is actually a Splatoon open world but it has matches.

This I think is pretty weak actually.

They could easily make this a Mario Odyssey or Zelda BOTW/TOTK style with puzzles for ink and such. I'd be ok with decent sized regions, not open worlds. Like ReCore on Xbox One or others with decent sized spaces to explore. Just as long as they aren't too annoying and complex as some like Banjo/Yooka Laylee I like the art but the things to do were always confusing.

Even Zelda games all intros confuse me till I get used to them and still struggle to do things in them.

I don't want a 'large' world but decent size ones to explore like the HUBs usually are, but maybe a tad bigger or same size.

Like to me De Blob was a fine game but didn't do it for me at times due to the core being pretty simple and repetitive. It did change some stuff up but wasn't a strong core to me.

Splatoon 2's grapple is a lot of who cares it's a grapple to oh they used this so well I loved 2's story mode.

So to me I can see reason in this game as Splatoon's core mechanics to reload, stealth and jump is great but it can be used so many ways for puzzles/exploration. There is a reason i could separate how Foamstars was/could have been for modes and how Splatoon is for it's strong singleplayer/multiplayer side.

I didn't care for BOTW/TOTK but I did their use of items like any Zelda does for the dungeons, shrines or even if pointless junk in chests how to get the chests was always fun like any 3D platformer was when done right. As in like Banjo/Spyro types not the pathetic Indie ones that don't match their quality (even if are inspired clones they don't meet that level of game design ideas).

So I am half on Splatoon Raiders, half not here. Depends HOW they handle it.

I don't own Splatoon 3 yet so I'll think about Raiders but still get 3 when I see the price as reasonable like I did 2 pre-owned.

@nin10doom No that's how Ridge Racer 1 or arcade was designed. Think of it like 'we are trying a new thing' kind of release. Or more so a better way to say it is as an arcade experience.

Circuit does mean a well a continued start/end point track or like electrical a circuit, it's not point to point, point a to b type of racing game like other arcade racers did have. Only 1 circuit.

But this looks like a good release for this arcade classic.

I'd say Cruis'n Blast is fair to experience if haven't. Or whatever other retro racing games I don't think much of as I think they lack in areas, but plenty of them out there regardless of what I seek in racing games that aren't there.

It's designed to be an arcade experience that's light on content. Unlike Ridge Racer Vita that is inexcusable in it's content handling.

This PS1/arcade era experience or first entry is understandable for the time but in the modern era you have to enjoy it as the novelty or thing it is basically.

Later entries added more tracks, cars and so on personality but the first Ridge Racer is more 1 track and being an arcade experience in the home to just play for time/high scores or within it's limitations.

I don't recommend it unless want to try something for what it is, as an arcade experience many will play over and over or to play once and never again, but yeah due to how much presence Ridge Racer had on Nintendo systems. Unless there is Ridge Racer 64, DS or 3DS then yeah don't really bother with this arcade experience if content is a priority to you. It does what it set out to do back in the day though besides it's limitations.

Play Type 4 or Ridge Racers/2nd PSP entry on PlayStation or emulate them or something. Those are more (good story moments in Type 4) besides more tracks, cars and things to do in those entries.

That or pick up Ridge Racer 5 on PS2, 7 on PS3 and 6 on 360. I think Type 4 on PS1, Ridge Racers 1 and 2 on PSP, 6 on 360 and 7 on PS3 are the more feature interesting entries. Only played or started the series with 2 on PSP and Type 4 on PS Classic so I am not an expert or veteran at all. Never grew up with it. Just through research.

I already saw the news/trailer on the Switch. It looked ok.

I'd rather a Dream Tactics, Empire of Angels 4 (not just saying these tactics games they just came to mind) or other reviews instead.

A game I'd like to see will never get made anyway.

Wobbly Life has ideas but it's still pretty eh in ideas, it's pretty weak creatively to it's rules/convincing world.

Looks good but the speeds/AI seem like Neo, awkward to play but interesting game is my impression. So unchanged. Is it worth it yes. Too hard or too awkward to control at times yes.

Seeing as I did excel at WipEout games I know the entry/challenge these offer and sucked at F Zero at times so I know what to expect but to me these feel as bad as Ride 4 was for unfair AI or later MotoGP games. I know as MotoGP16's MotoGP bikes AI was garbage and Dirt bike/Rally car events were well balanced. XD

When more vertical games then?

For arcade or other vertical shooter releases?

Or any unique ones? Either way this is cool.

Surprised Vita had Tate mode minigames in some games.

That and DS/3DS did it well in book form..... so we getting DS/3DS on Switch 2? I doubt it.

Fair details, good write up.

Looks 'fine' like Fuel did for PS3/360, with it's segmented or it's zones or wide space to drive.

It may be more then that but it gives off that vibe mixed with Sunset Overdrive or skating type moves on rails. It looks fine.

Hardly a big deal. Different for the series sure, the most exciting, eh. No.

Plenty of other games whether Kirby, DK or literally any other third parties retro or modern I'd rather care about then Mario Kart anything (not the boring ports to Switch 2 many third parties are offering).

I even think Sonic Crossworlds will be just a Transformed successor but just as bland and barely push the potential it can.

Gyro nice, ZL for other things nice.

The same terrible d-pad, they can change the underside contacts, but don't the top for authentic design. No thanks.

Well the IR would have been good for this so maybe the mouse pointer will.

But if so why not offer a cough, Wii Party type of minigame like the ghost one to pull it onto the TV screen.

Or cough, Wiimote style that cough IR could have offered with Joycons in opposite hands but NO.

Also a Wii Music successor better be better, make it like Lumines or others did with cough original music or Nintendo music or something.

Even Wii Chess could be better.

I'd rather take Coded Arms or Love Plus or GTI Club or Enthusia but sure the Lost in Blue/Survival Kids series has potential no doubt.

I haven't played Lost in Blue 3 (I think it is) on DS loose, yet but own it and heard of the series before. They have interesting elements no doubt but eh.

But whatever I guess my gameplay brain is too much interested and the devs don't care at all, and oh the themes or genres aren't worth it, so why not offer this one due to whatever inspirations or things they can do with it. I get it but eh.

Fair controller with the headphone jack and the additional buttons but Game Chat, should be used for ANYTHING else.

Seems fair, about as good, maybe a bit better then Welcome Park on Vita or Playroom/Playroom VR on PS4.

Or like Face Raiders on 3DS. Some fun stuff to look into. The payment eh but otherwise fair minigames and info I guess.

But I paid $3 for the IR camera app by the same one that made an ok Chess game so eh. I wasn't spending the full price on that Night Vision app at all. I wanted something to use my IR for even if I would games more then an app but eh. It has it's use still.

Until Geist, PN03 (cough Capcom and Under The Skin for PS+ PS2 as well thanks), Cubivore or Eternal Darkness I don't care.

F Zero is nice, Chibi Robo is nice but otherwise eh. Wave Race Blue Storm I forget if was in list or not.

No interest in Pokemon but it being on there is something with how expensive it is.

I'd take something like Vexx (whatever happened with Acclaim's IPs) as well, Dr Muto (cough WB with your Midway IPs), or many others I'd like to see.

I'd take the COD games on GameCube, Activision wouldn't even bother there would they?

Give us Pitfall Lost Expedition. Won't happen, didn't for Xbox at all. Won't PS2 either I doubt.

I don't even care to use NSO anyway but I'd like to see them happen.

But plenty that could be offered on services but won't. I can support Mister Mosquito, Battle Engine Aquila and more on PS2 PS+/buy digital license or want many PSP puzzle games that were never digital on PSP/Vita among many others and it won't happen so might as well physical or emulate instead. Or the DS versions of those available as well.

Actually where is Polarium for GBA on NSO? Rhythm Tengoku sure emulation can be hit and miss there but even still. They could have done official translation if possible too like they had some others released on Wii U oh well.

Unless some interesting third parties don't care. Even N64 so many 3rd parties I'd want but oh licenses, oh source code, oh those that don't care to use the IPs, might as well emulate or them physical as many third parties are too lazy to offer them.

Odd, other then a mistake or how something like using Game Bar to record and recognise titles of apps/games and how some people will do recordings and how the output of the image is sure.

But otherwise something else likely or some titling put somewhere, AI or someone trying something or a actual mistake.

Well it's a sign it's getting closer. What they add or change or keep the same who knows as no idea how the Vita one is but otherwise fair release coming i guess.

Even to me the PSP one felt very light on content, the charm is there but eh. So no clue how the 2nd PSP one, PS3 or Vita ones are they don't seem like much really.

But arcade sports games are always welcome when they put the charm and effort in.

Fair for you all, I'm keeping mine. Switch 2 Nintendo titles have appeal but the price on the console and the eh gimmicks (till used in interesting ways) or the third parties aka the Japanese AAs I got Vita ports or other Switch releases from and a few Indies I may care for I'll move on.

Got my backlog of retro, Switch, PS4, Xbox One games, no interest in current consoles/Switch 2 at all. They suck of ideas on PS5/Series X, Switch 2 gimmicks/game library needs to prove itself first and prices/boring execution, why bother.

The western third parties have the weakest offerings because Nintendo releases at odd times or only those with enough time to work with the dev kits for something else or whatever deals or ideas they may have otherwise a bunch of ports. Boring.

I get it like Wii U a bunch of ports but to me even Wii U's launch had more interesting games being ported, regardless of 8 months or otherwise time they were and the Gamepad features to me were enough (people can go oh Reggie struggled to and yeah I don't deny that but portability and addition content or other things work for people or systems they already are loyal to and get a remaster later they will buy, hypocrites) or a new audience getting them on another console. Besides not all of them had Companion App features on PS3/360/PS4/Xbox One till later or none at all so by all means Wii U versions.

Everything has to effect idiots lifestyle or a few years later mentality, it's a joke and I laugh at idiots as to me whenever and whatever is fine, but no it has to be enough time or enough of a weak but strong in their eyes reason. People are just hilarious.

I didn't get a Wii U that much after I did in 2018 Feb, 3DS 2020 Jan and Switch 2021 so to me I'm content with whatever is cheaper or whatever is still around of availability.

Like PS5/Series I got what I could of PS3/360/Wii/Wii U games from places before they disappeared around November 2020. 3DS were here and there and on occasion appear from stores still, but otherwise yeah I'm good getting the ones I've waited for/not as desperate for, for cheap or leftover availability.

But the western third parties IPs are boring and the Indies I see as big deals are 'fine' but not that much my thing.

So Fast Fusion (cool but I'll suck at it just like Neo/RMX) and DK/Kirby, otherwise..... Eh.

Otherwise the niche Nintendo IPs like Rhythm Heaven Groove are on Switch 1 anyways so I'm not missing out. I'll get Prime 4 as well like Bayo 3 waited for it. Other titles sure but the big ones to still wait for of course.

I'll consider the mainstream Nintendo titles I don't own but otherwise like any console I wait around till it's cheap pre-owned or till enough games on it. So cheap, niche games full price due to stock availability will go and if the gimmicks/games are good of third parties otherwise pass.

Switch 2 has to impress me with it's gimmicks as it's ideas, OS and more are just so boring and the graphics techniques are what boring devs want to push garbage and gameplay ideas take a hit dramatically and have for 2 gens now, eh leadership/pubs and just boring overall products, not what I want, I couldn't care less about any of those.

PS5/Series are as boring of 1st and 3rd parties because of those reasons, boring gimmick use and boring gameplay with other annoying priorities. Unless modern gaming picks up why would I contribute to it.

Fair. Got 1, it's ok. 2 is infinite discounted so sure 3 happening is fine.

To me 1 needed a better AI, better choice of attacks on pieces not randomised. In SNES era sure, but nowadays it needs a new combat mode not randomised and annoying to work with.

Otherwise story was ok, visuals were fine. Controls ok.

I tried 1 for a bit and 2 is probably more the same, 3 more the same.

It was better then Tactics Ogre Reborn that's for sure but that's not saying a lot I think both a good old games revived for access but their lack of elements to them is also an issue they are too much weird tweaks like TOR's level limiting and otherwise.

Both are SNES games with graphics overhauls and minor changes but still feel lacking to me.

Fair, Gal Guardians I have a bit to go with, so will keep that one in mind.

Don't have Travis Strikes Again yet but will keep it in mind for testing.

Interesting to see which ones get more fixes to be compatible.

Not getting a Switch 2 right away but will keep in mind the list updates for future purchases or past purchases to compare with the list.

Part 2:
I research a LOT of racing games, as much as platformers and shooters.

Who looks to the advergaming ones? Option Tuning PS1 or some N64 ones of GT64 and more? Not just Beetle Adventure or Mario Kart/Diddy Kong. Certain people out there of course.

I've been researching tons of 5-7th gen racing games arcade, simcade, sim, whatever. PC ones I'll get to eventually of course to play but have researched a fair amount.

Grid Legends story was passable in story and mechanically doing something even if the 1 team member & 2 team members felt like Diofield Chronicle, attempted then barely anything else to mix things up yet others had. Even then it's skill tree was so pointless but it's upgrade the car to enter was ok of an idea, not great but it was something from just classes all the time.

Well yeah but also I don't go oh DLCs/MTX or anything at all for a reason either.

@Scollurio I know I enjoyed TOCA/V8 Supercars/DTM race driver series and R Racing Evolution. I grew up on the PS2/Xbox Race Driver series, I even now own the PS1 trilogy too.

The historical stuff for scenarios in prior F1 games was cool. They can't always do that but still. Sometimes challenges are enough from just a championship/season mode.

I always bought the older MotoGP games for the challenges not just because they are more playable to me.

I go between retro and modern games just to get an idea where things are going and some modern ones I do enjoy.

GT's formula isn't perfect at all. Forza and many others went classes and I just hate it, they feel pointless and unrewarding.

I didn't even like the calendar approach in Forza Motorsport 3 & 4 I found the Event list more fun.

I don't have a definitive progression model in mind but many others have done fair arcade and many modes approaches before, some gems, some trash, but still enjoyable enough.

Whether prizes or event requirements or management systems or whatever I'm fine with that. Even a car builder like Sega GT Dreamcast had or Pure ATV PS3/360 had and WRC 23 I think had. While Apex/Racing Evoluzione was rather basic and it fit the story rather then gameplay depth.

Whether different event types being more challenges or more racing but with a twist I'm fine with but not just oh wow it's racing and time trial, or drift, or derby as just that is fine but it's so basic and repetitive for 20 hours or so when a lot can be done with the tracks, cars, and rules/obstacles/penalties.

GT isn't much but even it has enough coffee breaks or driving missions to do, while arcade/simcade racers offered their many drift, elimination, autocross, bowling, stunts or others modes, upgrades or other rewards/goals in the past.

Let alone things like Stuntman as it's own thing.

You can make a car, boat, bike, whatever vehicle do ANYTHING just like any human, animal, alien, etc. character in any other genre whether puzzles, platforming, combat, collecting, outposts, whatever yet they don't. Yet character movesets in some are just as basic and push menus/other generic things in their worlds, while others embrace their crazy ideas.

Cars aren't just their brands or objects.

I grew up on GT/Forza I own the whole series, grew up with MotoGP3 with it's 20 fictional tracks not just the real ones of the era, I just open my options and also bring up the Nintendo consoles with a fair amount of racing options from N64 to Wii to compare to Switch when they tried to reach out with arcade or simcade.

I've researched many licensed or other types out there.

I never experienced many arcade racers, not NFS or PGR or others, I have now over time but yeah I mostly was used to certain sim/simcade ones. I just open my options to games to play, mechanically or otherwise.

I got to Project Cars a few times before and got Assetto Corsa original recently along with the FIA Euro Truck racing game and they are alright. I still have to get the hang of them.

I'm not so much a motorsports fan if that's more fitting to your comment/thoughts. I enjoy racing games and I enjoy motorsport movies. But I'm not like into the brands that deeply like others or a wheel rig. I don't pretend to be. I have a wheel/pedals, but I am not sim obsessed. I am fine with the brands/licenses being a thing but I just wish devs didn't rely on them but as many players do not surprised.

Well seeing as the original is still available and the remake adds a few visual tweaks and other expanded content that an update can just offer like OG and Impossible Lair had, why bother.

The game isn't that old or a generation inaccessible either there are no PS3/360/Wii U versions or anything.

Why would people remake a game that's still accessible and discounted a fair amount, still playable and an expanded version is being offered they want people to give money to. I get making a new game isn't easy to do (or on the scale they want to make then other options they could make in such a time) but even still.

They could have offered better marketing for the with Friends label games, could have offered DLC levels or something.

But nope.

What did they expect for wishlisting.

Besides the audiences that did or didn't like the original and did Impossible Lair even though the 3D platformer was coming back and even then I liked the OG and wasn't great at Banjo but it doesn't change much either.

It was good but they are asking too much and think people are dedicated fans, some are but not a large audience.

Not all of us will sympathy pay for a game that's cheap a lot and expanding it's content/graphics.

Think about it Playtonic, your trying to get people that are aware of back compat not casuals that have no clue. I think we know as a platformer audience what is out there and how accessible on platforms to purchase they are. XD

Some devs are just not thinking at all.

Part 2:
To me Codemasters, Milestone or others have made generic annual games (in some cases out of their control I get that) even if tried at times, or sometimes broken AI or other details and otherwise their non licensed F1, MotoGP, WRC efforts have just as many progression, modes or classes/skill tree and other boring game design problems.

Wreckfest was good on Switch but it's progression is the same boring design I hate of 2 modes and wow different vehicle types that really don't change much other then wow it's a motor sofa or lawn mower, but really changes nothing at all.

To me Forza Motorsport 5-7, GT Sport/7, Need For Speed and others by third parties were decent of arcade, simcade, etc. and 'ideas' but many third parties have the most class, car wish fulfillment for players into that and boring progression I've ever seen of 8th and 9th gen gaming they just suck and are forgettable or empty or uncreative.

5-6th gen racing has the better ideas of mechanics, plenty of modes or progression ideas, even with limited licenses it's how they play that's fun. That is lost.

Racing games suck these days. They lack creativity of location, progression, vehicles and more.

I enjoyed GameCube/Wii racers but otherwise Switch has modern era gaming problems for racing, platformers by Indies and just are boring games these days regardless of if the Switch gets them or not changes nothing if the game design sucks to begin with.

What a joke headlight. They can gauge sales or try with the hardware but is it really going to change much? The game design will still be subpar the devs lack of creativity licensed of F1, WRC, etc. or Grid and others over the years (or not just Codemasters but ANY third party or 1st party racing game studios) or genre has had since 8th gen of being terrible.

Analogue triggers or otherwise and fair GameCube support if they do I just don't care. To me racers suck on all platforms even if Switch is a fair one for them no analogue triggers making them awkward to play at times. But the core progression for many in the genre are so garbage I find the Indies just as no licensing but motorsports/nostalgia focused boring and unoriginal the genre sucks.

Otherwise Codemasters could have put any racing games they have licenses for on Switch or get this make a non-licensed one but that will never happen, no one wants to make a Wreckfest like no licenses game with their own tracks/ideas, they want licenses because reasons and reference and to be lazy then have creative ideas.

Putiing F1 or anything else on Switch sure, making good game design that's a whole other thing.

I'm surprised they even tried with F1 09 on Wii to begin with and had Grid Autosport on Switch which is a fair game even if awkward at times analogue not being there and AI/physics. Works better then my broken PS3 copy though erroring out all the time.

To me F1 is fine but honestly I'd take anything else but they are too license deep or EA deep at this point so like I really care.

Where is Grid Legends on Switch?

Dirt Rally? Anything else?

To me Dirt 5 was like Dirt 3 with gymkhana being 1% of the time then better paced out and a lot of objectives, repetitive tracks and really boring ideas so whether it went to Switch 2 or not I'd not even care it was so bland and boring.

Gravel by Milestone isn't either. But MotoGP is on Switch? Hmm.

F1 is already ok in it's current form, but I haven't gotten into them as much the modern ones, probably still playable and I have 2020 on Xbox One but haven't bothered to play it much, even F1 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 are alright. They didn't excite me as much as MotoGP 06 to 09/10 or WRC 2 & 3 did.

I have old MotoGP and I hate current MotoGP games the AI are terrible and the progression is passable even MotoGP 16 had dirt bikes/rally cars and played better or had better AI then the MotoGP bikes which is hilarious. But even Ride 4 had that issue. They are too hardcore audience or padded out and very easy is a broken difficulty setting. I don't know if they have fixed it but refuse to buy them to find out and researching is hard as like with any menus or detailed info is hard to find as no youtubers/players ask the questions I ask so I have to buy them. It's annoying.

Some of Milestone's worst games compared to their Apex/Racing Evoluzione or others back in the day let alone WRC 2 and 3 I love their campaigns and everything since by KT or others have been eh but I'm not the core audience either so like it matters.

Codemasters these days are alright but not as exciting as their prior eras.