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I must have missed the negative reaction to this. Been pretty interested in since the very first leak, back when the Switch was still the NX. Glad it's turned out quite well. Who have thought Ubisoft would have put together a Mario RPG that's reviewed better than any of Nintendo's attempts in nearly 10 years.

Unfortunately I think the question is what purpose it serve the companies behind the chart to include digital sales? Companies like Chart-Trak and NPD work on tracking sales so they can sell this information to marketers and often back to the publishers (publishers know what they have sold to a retailer, but are often still interested in what a retailer sells on to the consumer).

The ONLY way to get digital sales figures is to get it from the publisher. That's going to cost money, and in some cases, the publisher might not even want to divulge it, even with the offer of money on the table. On top of this, one of Chart-Trak/NPD are now missing one of their biggest consumers, as they can't sell this data back to the publisher.

It all comes down to the purpose behind these charts, and just like all these games, it's all about making money for someone. Digital sales being missing doesn't really make them pointless, as the point of them was never really for us to discuss them every week/month.

Was a huge fan of both FE games and had no idea there was a kickstarter for a new game!

You guys are mocking one person for taking too long to develop his game, but this was announced the same week as Breath of the Wild was... and that's had hundreds of people working on it.

I thought it was very good. Those Metroid and Pokemon announcements get me way more excited for the switch than Kirby, Yoshi, Fire Emblem Warriors etc. Of what they actually showed of, only Mario Odyssey looked truly amazing so glad they broke habit and made the early announcements.

Looks excellent!

YES! Been crying out for this kind of announcement from Nintendo for years. Doesn't matter if it's 3 years out and not ready to show, just knowing it's coming makes me way more excited about the switch that being able to see tired Kirby and Yoshi games.

Don't really see the differences so many others are. Looks just like the MH I know and dislike... looks so dated, in terms of graphics and gameplay.

Looks pretty good! Most people on here slate them, but Ubisoft usually does something original on Nintendo consoles, which they DON'T do for the MS/Sony machines.

The Volcano Bay videos turned out to be pretty close to the actual park so faith in Universal.

Looks more like a temporary stage for an announcement rather than part of the actual land.

Always baffles me how hard people find it to understand KS. The previous goal is 4.4 million, so they need an extra 600k for a Switch version, not the full 5 million to make it.

I've backed it as I love the games these people have made before. KS is a chance for you to make a game happen that wouldn't get funded by a publisher. Don't think of as an early pre-order. You're getting a chance to make a game that's unlikely become reality.

Can't wait for this. I thought the Marvel Super Heroes game was much better than the Avengers follow-up.

Will definitely buy the Splatoon one. I wish they offered the same design on multiple coloured shirts. Not a fan of dark t-shirts, but I'd have bought the star fox one in a light grey.

Level 5 should b pretty disappointed with how Nintendo UK market their games IMO. The Layton games sold really well here, and then they did an RPG based on football. A game made by the people behind a smash hit, based around the nation's favourite sport.... it should have been a HUGE hit, but Nintendo seemed to think because there was an anime of it, there was no need for a marketing push.

Wow at Persona 5! Hyped on the internet, but still very much a niche title.

Would be pleasantly surprised if that was the case, but still yet to see any evidence it's going to outperform the Wii U. Just to be clear, I absolutely think it's going to beat the Wii U sales, but everyone keeps referring to it as a staggering success, when I think it's still tracking behind the Wii U? It just seems a bit daft to go 'woah, it prints money' when there's no actual evidence it's not the same people that bought a Wii U going out and putting down their money again. It's like when people got excited over headlines like Wii U sales increase 600%, when sales were still absolutely pathetic.

So far, the only negative things most reviews seem to be saying is 'This game feels like something that came out 20 years ago on the 64', but pretty sure that's what most people wanted from it?

It was made by a handful of people, it was never going to be the next step in 3D platforming games.

Spoiler Alert: Shenmue 3 isn't going to have any large towns, let alone cities to explore, on a budget of $6 million.

I think it will too, but that's because Scorpio like PS4 Pro is not intended as a mass market product. It's a high end option for a small percentage of users, sort of like Apple offer. Consoles don't tend to take off with the mainstream until they go under £200, so the bulk of consumers will go for the standard machines.

The title makes it sound like one of those low-budget straight to home video type releases.

I think the first one had just the right amount of references. Pixar are good are doing what they do, no need to just make the movie all about references to other things.

Pokemon Sun and Moon are £24.95 each at TheGameCollection.

I agree there's no good reason it should skip the Switch, but really disagree with the idea that there are still more NES fans playing on Nintendo consoles than the other machines these days. The NES and SNES were mainstream hits, played by far more than the 'Nintendo fan' demographic. I'd bet there are more PS4 owners that used to have a NES than Wii U and Switch owners than used to have a NES.

Little bit confused why people are acting like it's some huge cultural smash. They sold 3 million Wii U consoles in a month. How did that turn out? We won't have a clear picture of how successsul the Switch is until the sales figures from its first Christmas are in.

Very impressive! I'm a little disappointed the screen is not glass, but this shows there is definitely an upside to the plastic.

Really surprised Twilight Princess Wii had better launch numbers as with the Wii, a lot of people would have been happy with just Wii Sports... but who is the market that is buying a Switch and NOT Zelda?

Also people saying that 80k is not a good number... it's probably exactly the number that Nintendo shipped. NeoGAF are analyzing console launch numbers but it's irrelevant because pretty much everything sells out at launch, so it always comes down to how many could they ship.

Glad to see it's turned out so well! There were times, particularly during last E3 where I must admit I feared the worst. Hyrule looked so bland and empty, and this was coming 6 months after Xenoblade Chronicles X which IMO had done a pretty poor job at the open world under Nintendo's supervision.

I'll get Shadow Dragon at that price!

I imagine Breath of the Wild sales on Switch will be limited by how many consoles Nintendo can ship. Probably looking at a million at most for Japan, maybe even 750k.

There are NES carts on Seinfeld's shelf too. By all accounts he was a big fan and put them in as references.

I'll get one, but likely in 2018. Just like every other console launch in the last 5 years, I've not even considered for a moment buying it day 1. I'm getting Breath of the Wild on Wii U (VERY excited for the game) and the rest of the launch looks like shovel ware.

I eventually buy all the consoles, so
I'm never short of games to play. It makes sense to wait for there to be 10+ games I'd want and can't get anywhere else. Did this with the Wii U and PS4 and saved a lot of money too.

@Shagaru Well FIFA has been in the top 10 games every year since 2012, so it's a pretty big deal, even in the US. You're right that it's probably not a system seller though, in any market, as it's kind of on everything.

It's very hard to insure a package like this. To insurance companies, these games are not worth the potential eBay prices.

I still have very strong concerns over wether it's too big for the mass market to consider it a handheld. It might not matter what Nintendo want it to be.

Um... NES mini is not a console for a start. It's a very cheap android box. Secondly, who the heck is surprised it outsold the Wii U? The Wii U has spent its whole lifecycle selling less each month than machines that were previously considered flops like the Dreamcast and GameCube. That was before it's successor was revealed! So now that's happened, it's no surprise at all it was outsold by anything, least of all a very cheap box like the mini.

@OorWullie. Those numbers you mention are for Japan. This is North America. Xbox One tends to sell 5-6 as many units as Wii U does every month and about 2-3 times what the 3DS does. North America and Europe's numbers dwarf Japan. In Japan, the top selling hardware would have sold about 300k in December, its strongest month. In North America, PS4 and Xbox both do over 1.5 million.

Very much looking forward to this. Sumo have done a great job on most games they've worked on.

I don't think it's a big deal at all, as you can get these things on pretty much everything... but that fact is also what makes it kind of strange.

I'm a big fan of the aesthetics, very much got an Overwatch feel, but still very dubious about the depth of anything so heavily based on motion controls.

Pretty sure Thomas is well aware of how DF works, but they don't do comparisons to give material to fanboy Wars. The fact the two games are on vastly different hardware isn't really relevant to them. The point of it was not to figure out which 'wins'.

Just tried to order one (just to check) and it shows delivery estimate of Mar 4th which will probably end up as March 3rd. Going to hold off for a long time though. Will get Zelda on Wii U and then re-evaluate when Mario is out.

Still get Edge and Retro Gamer each month digitally. A magazine can still be relevant these days as long as there is not too much focus on news and reviews.

There is a brilliant football publication called The Blizzard that is nothing but editorial content, which means you can pick up a four year old copy and still enjoy it as much now as the day it came out. I'd love to see a games magazine attempt this. I suppose retro magazines are close.

@whodatninja Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0, Resident Evil VII, Tales of Berseria, Dragon Quest VIII, Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian and Final Fantasy XV did pretty well recently. All reviewed better than the Wii U and 3DS versions of Yarn Yoshi too...

Ogre Battle 64!

People are using the term soft launch because they feel the holiday period will be the real starting point. Nintendo will sell out at launch no matter what. The fact most people only see one worthwhile launch game and it's not even exclusive doesn't matter. Nintendo can't sell more so maybe feel no more effort is needed.

Then you're into summer, a period where gaming sales are low. We're seeing a lot of recycled content in this period, again not a whole lot of effort because it's not an important time.

Holiday is the first time they'll really trying to convince people to buy this thing. Before holiday, anyone buying a Switch would have bought one anyway, no matter what was on it, because they're big Nintendo fans. Holiday is where the real effort will begin. It's when they start putting out the great games that you can't play anywhere else.

Don't really get why people do this. Order online... usually get it the day before release.

They also thought the Wii U was going to do Wii numbers...

@impurekind it's not directly because of Brexit, but more to do with the value of the pound taking due to brexit. Any money Nintendo makes is sent back to Japan. In the first half of last year, £8 would have been about 1400 yen. Today £8 is 1150 yen. Nintendo will be making significantly less than the price they decided on.

I hope this is good. Used to love some of the Mario Sports games, but lately they've been so threadbare.

Are they purposefully trolling? I mean, even 30% off isn't great compared to the recent PSN sales, so why limit it?

Doesn't matter to me personally, but I think it's kind of important to sales. I think if the mass market see it as a console... then it might struggle to surpass the Wii U numbers. If people see it as a handheld, then it's got a chance of getting some of those 3DS people that didn't bother with a Wii U. The size of the thing might count against it being seen as the latter...

Solid position for a JRPG, particularly one that's not really a big name (DQVIII on PS2 was the first game on the series released in Europe). The DS and 3DS have really let us get into the series with the releases of IV to VII for the first time ever.