@Noid It's probably a mix of Universal wanting Mario, as that's the thing people know, and Nintendo themselves wanting Nintendo in the name of it to boost brand exposure.
Some great games on the N64 that still hold up. I didn't play Mario 64 or Ocarina of time until 2012, and Majora's Mask til 2014 but still loved them as much as any new release at the time. Conker is also something I still love replaying now, as not only was the humour unlike anything else in that type of game, but it didn't get bogged down in too many collectables like other Rare 3D platformers.
I eventually get all the consoles, although usually wait a bit. The only console I've ever got on day 1 before was the Wii, but now I'm getting a Series X tomorrow. The reason is I never got a One, so rather than get a One now and then upgrade in a few years, it makes more sense to just get a Series X.
Usually, I find it's best to wait 2-3 years to let a console's library build up. I'll be getting a Switch Pro in 2021 which will be my first Switch, and a PS5 whenever they do the re-design. 2023 perhaps? I waited 3 years to get a PS4 and was fine doing that.
Nintendo buying Sega would be a terrible move. Most of their money these days come from the PC side, Total War, Football Manager etc. What would Nintendo do with that? Nintendo buying Sega subsidiaries like Atlus would be fine, but they seem quite self sufficient anyway so I don’t think it would really improve them from what they are now.
It's kind of depressing for those of that enjoyed the first couple of PM games. They could at least get someone on a new Mario and Luigi to replace what was lost.
I hope Nintendo stick with this type of console. Part of me worries despite the success, they will move back towards something built around a gimmick again. I'd a also like them to make sure everything is backwards compatible moving forward but I know that's never going to happen. They like re-selling games way too much.
I loved Sega's arcade games back in the day (agree with Sega World in Piccadilly Circus being amazing), but gaming has moved on so much since then. Home consoles are now more than capable of arcade perfect ports for a start, so it just left the social aspect, which Covid has obviously put the dampeners on. It's almost certainly a smart move to sell this part of the business before it depreciates even further in value.
Even with sales down, it's sold better than a 7 year old port should have sold at full price. Sends completely the wrong message to Nintendo that this is okay.
@chrisprattisfat The gaming industry needs to sort out its problems with licensing. You never have to worry about a movie becoming unavailable. It might not be on your streaming service but you’ll be able to rent or buy it digitally somewhere. We don’t see movies pulled over a licensed soundtrack, but it happens all the time with games. They need to set these deals up like movies do without expiration dates.
I don't get people's hate for streaming. I was streaming PS4 games through a Vita 7 years ago by just using my phone as a hotspot, and it was AMAZING! With today's technology like XCloud and 5G mobile data, it's even better.
This is amazing! And you're essentially getting the entire trilogy as they always include the levels from previous games.
Don't understand the hate for Game Streaming. You want to play a game on your switch while constantly moving around? Then fine, don't play this, but plenty of people use the Switch purely as a Home Console. This is for them, or anyone with unlimited data on their phone plan so they can just leave a hotspot constantly running on their phone.
@rjejr Yeah, I didn't realise the price they'd be charging. You can get the game and the expansion for much cheaper on Amazon UK at the moment than you can for this new release. It's so annoying.
I'm a big fan of how they've handled these expansions. It's given us new Pokemon content for 2020, and also gives them extra time for the next Pokemon game (Gen 4 remake next holiday?).
This is great. As someone that doesn't buy games Day 1, I usually wait for the 'Complete Editions' and was disappointed Nintendo never did this. I hope we see more of it.
A global pandemic is no excuse. Game development is quite easy to do working from home. The entire Ori and the Blind Forest game was made by a WFH team. It’s irrelevant though. This is a rom and an emulator. Nintendo have always done a terrible job with emulation considering they are professional deva with access to all original hardware specs and code. People that do it in their spare time usually five better results.
The more I hear about Mario 64, the more disappointing it gets. Let me be clear. The game does not NEED anything done to it. I played it a few years ago, and I don't think it's aged as badly as people are saying. However, you have people that are doing a better job in their spare time with a lot of these PC port projects. Nintendo, with all their paid developers and access to source code should not be getting outdone by fan projects.
It’s definitely not as good as Planet Coaster or Planet Zoo, but I think the reviews were a bit harsh on it (the Push Square review is much higher than the norm). If you’re a Jurassic Park fan, you’ll likely get some enjoyment from it.
Interested to watch this. I know it's not the same people, but the Toys That Made Us is one of the best docu-series I've ever seen. A lot of the toys I don't care about, but it's still fascinating.
I do think these things are not aimed at fans as hardcore as us though. More the casual gamers that buy 1-2 games a year, and don't visit forums or watch gaming stuff on youtube.
@SwitchForce PS2 has pretty much the best software attach rate of any console out there. Over 10 games sold for every console. Doesn’t sound like people bought it just for DVDs. The Switch is around 6.5 for each console.
First two Paper Mario games are among my favourite of all time, but it's now been over 15 years since the series had a great game. Super Paper Mario seemed like a big drop in quality at the time, but even that was decent. Since then, I'd go as far as saying they've all been BAD games. It's now like Star Fox, a series that is lauded, but has far more bad games than good games.
I've got rid of all physical media other than games and I'm so happy with it. So much needless clutter out of my house.
There's so many issues with games though, and with Nintendo more than most. With music, movies and TV shows I know there's no worry about things becoming unavailable, but with gaming it's far too common. Hopefully in a few years, console generations and dedicated hardware will be consigned to history, and that will at least stop games being 'stuck' on old hardware. The licensing issue will still remain though.
Another issue is the pricing. Sales are great, but it's still so much easier to find physical games dropping in price, and of course the pre-owned market.
@ThanosReXXX I bought a new PC in March, and not many come with a disc drive these days. If you're buying a PC game it's likely through steam or EGS, and if you're watching films, it's probably on a streaming service.
Everyone is acting like the PS2 had poor software sales, but it had a better attach rate than ANY Nintendo hardware. The total PS2 software 50% higher than the total DS software despite similar hardware numbers sold. It sold a TON of software, but it was spread over a huge choice of games. With Switch, everyone has a similar library, ie the Nintendo releases.
Crazy that they're charging full price for this, and also delisted the Wii U version immediately. They built their gaming business on anti-consumer practices and still going strong.
A lot of the switch games included in those numbers are also ports from their previous consoles. The Switch release schedule feels too much like the Wii U for me. Yes, there are more 3rd party ports coming in which will satisfy a lot of people, but for someone that buys all consoles and uses Nintendo machines just for Nintendo exclusives... it's really no better than the Wii U.
In 2018, 2019 and 2020, the only Switch games that really interest me are Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Luigi's Mansion 3 and Pokemon Sword/Shield. That's nothing in 2018, and so far nothing in 2020.
I was really excited about the idea of them consolidating and just bringing out a hybrid machine, but personally, there's less interesting games now than ever.
2020 has been pretty bad, and a lot of ports of good games and DLC isn't going to change that for me. I don't care for Animal Crossing at all, and Paper Mario is now done for me a series. Two great games, and then 15 years of rubbish. There's literally been nothing for me. I'm sure people will go nuts for the Mario ports, but again, it's not exciting getting games I already own and can play quite easily.
Having said that, it's not as bad as 2016. 2020 has had nothing for me, but I struggle to see how anyone was satisfied with 2016.
God damn it. Why SE? I haven't bought a version of DQXI yet because I didn't want the crappy music from the PS4 or the massively downgraded visuals of the Switch. How hard would it be to put out an actual definitive version instead of making people choose if they want the superior visuals or audio?
This looked very interesting, and of course Yuji Naka is a legend, but I always worry that the industry has moved on. Sometimes we're nostalgic for older developers, but find when they put out a game that's just as good as anything they've done in the past, it doesn't feel as good, because actually games have come a long way.
There's nothing lazy about it. They don't make games for PS4 and XB1 because they like those machines, but because they make money. Switch, like any Nintendo console will always have a couple of big drawbacks for 3rd parties, and that's the fanbase's tendency to not really buy 3rd party games in big numbers, but also the work involved in porting. They can create a game that runs on PS4 and XB1 with minimal changes needed, so one project can sell to a huge userbase over 150 million strong. Making something work on Switch takes a lot more work, which costs a lot more money.
The disc-less PS5 is clearly the main design. The disc drive looks awkwardly added on.
Physical media is becoming a huge bottle neck for gaming, and that's only going to get worse as SSD takes over. I don't think there will be any disc drive options for the PS6 and 5th gen of Xbox.
Nintendo will take longer as usual, but they'll go the same way eventually.
As someone that gets all the consoles, it's hard to get excited about ports. The exception would be games that are now very expensive to play legally. Thousand Year Door, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for examples, or games that can only be played with horrible controls like Skyward Sword. All on board for those ports.
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Re: Super Nintendo World Will Open February 2021, New Images And Mario Kart Ride Detailed
@Noid It's probably a mix of Universal wanting Mario, as that's the thing people know, and Nintendo themselves wanting Nintendo in the name of it to boost brand exposure.
Re: Video: 21 Nintendo 64 Games Everyone Should Play
Some great games on the N64 that still hold up. I didn't play Mario 64 or Ocarina of time until 2012, and Majora's Mask til 2014 but still loved them as much as any new release at the time. Conker is also something I still love replaying now, as not only was the humour unlike anything else in that type of game, but it didn't get bogged down in too many collectables like other Rare 3D platformers.
Re: Poll: Which Will Be Your Second Console - PS5 Or Xbox Series X?
I eventually get all the consoles, although usually wait a bit. The only console I've ever got on day 1 before was the Wii, but now I'm getting a Series X tomorrow. The reason is I never got a One, so rather than get a One now and then upgrade in a few years, it makes more sense to just get a Series X.
Usually, I find it's best to wait 2-3 years to let a console's library build up. I'll be getting a Switch Pro in 2021 which will be my first Switch, and a PS5 whenever they do the re-design. 2023 perhaps? I waited 3 years to get a PS4 and was fine doing that.
Re: Sega Asks 650 Employees To 'Voluntarily Retire', Cuts Executive Salaries
Nintendo buying Sega would be a terrible move. Most of their money these days come from the PC side, Total War, Football Manager etc. What would Nintendo do with that? Nintendo buying Sega subsidiaries like Atlus would be fine, but they seem quite self sufficient anyway so I don’t think it would really improve them from what they are now.
Re: The Origami King Is Now The Fastest-Selling Paper Mario Game Ever
It's kind of depressing for those of that enjoyed the first couple of PM games. They could at least get someone on a new Mario and Luigi to replace what was lost.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 68.3 Million, Now Nintendo's Second Best-Selling Home Console Ever
I hope Nintendo stick with this type of console. Part of me worries despite the success, they will move back towards something built around a gimmick again. I'd a also like them to make sure everything is backwards compatible moving forward but I know that's never going to happen. They like re-selling games way too much.
Re: Sega Sammy Set To Sell Majority Of Sega Entertainment
I loved Sega's arcade games back in the day (agree with Sega World in Piccadilly Circus being amazing), but gaming has moved on so much since then. Home consoles are now more than capable of arcade perfect ports for a start, so it just left the social aspect, which Covid has obviously put the dampeners on. It's almost certainly a smart move to sell this part of the business before it depreciates even further in value.
Re: Jurassic World Evolution: Complete Edition Is Out On Switch Today, Here's The Launch Trailer
It's not as good as Planet Coaster or Planet Zoo, but I still found it pretty enjoyable. Definitely the best attempt yet at a JP management game.
Re: Pikmin 3 Opening Week Physical Sales Were Lower On Switch Than Wii U (UK)
Even with sales down, it's sold better than a 7 year old port should have sold at full price. Sends completely the wrong message to Nintendo that this is okay.
Re: Control's eShop Page Reminds Us About Harsh Realities Of A Cloud-Based Future
@chrisprattisfat The gaming industry needs to sort out its problems with licensing. You never have to worry about a movie becoming unavailable. It might not be on your streaming service but you’ll be able to rent or buy it digitally somewhere. We don’t see movies pulled over a licensed soundtrack, but it happens all the time with games. They need to set these deals up like movies do without expiration dates.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 31st)
Not too much Nintendo lately. I’ll be playing No More Heroes soon but this weekend it’s Dead Rising 2 and the original Silent Hill.
Re: Control: Ultimate Edition Is Available Now On Switch, But There's A Catch
I don't get people's hate for streaming. I was streaming PS4 games through a Vita 7 years ago by just using my phone as a hotspot, and it was AMAZING! With today's technology like XCloud and 5G mobile data, it's even better.
Re: Hitman 3 Is Coming To Switch, Just Don't Try To Play This One Offline
This is amazing! And you're essentially getting the entire trilogy as they always include the levels from previous games.
Don't understand the hate for Game Streaming. You want to play a game on your switch while constantly moving around? Then fine, don't play this, but plenty of people use the Switch purely as a Home Console. This is for them, or anyone with unlimited data on their phone plan so they can just leave a hotspot constantly running on their phone.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Could Feature A Mini-LED Display, According To A New Report
Hope this revision gets released before the end of March so I can buy some of the games they are delisting on that date.
Re: The Original Fire Emblem Is Coming To The West For The First Time Ever On Switch
Another ridiculous decision to limit it for no good reason.
Also, it kind of technically has been released before, since there was the DS remake?
Re: UK Charts: FIFA Leads, But It's Been A Mightily Impressive Week For Nintendo
@Enigk There's only microtransactions in one mode of FIFA. Plenty of people play it without touching Ultimate Team mode.
Re: A Pokémon Sword And Shield DLC Bundle Hits Stores This November
@rjejr Yeah, I didn't realise the price they'd be charging. You can get the game and the expansion for much cheaper on Amazon UK at the moment than you can for this new release. It's so annoying.
Re: Switch Can Break The Traditional Hardware Cycle And Become Nintendo's iPhone, Says Analyst
I just hope they quit with the gimmicks and just stick with the hybrid console. Innovate through software, not through new controls.
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield's The Crown Tundra DLC Launches Next Month, All Past Legendaries Appear
I'm a big fan of how they've handled these expansions. It's given us new Pokemon content for 2020, and also gives them extra time for the next Pokemon game (Gen 4 remake next holiday?).
Re: A Pokémon Sword And Shield DLC Bundle Hits Stores This November
This is great. As someone that doesn't buy games Day 1, I usually wait for the 'Complete Editions' and was disappointed Nintendo never did this. I hope we see more of it.
Re: Random: Remember To Charge Your Switch At Least Twice A Year, Nintendo Helpfully Suggests
This happened to my Wii U. I hadn't touched it for 2 years, then went to play Twilight Princess HD last Christmas and it was completely dead.
Re: Talking Point: There's Never Been A Better Time For Gaming Consumers, Nor A Worse Time For Gaming Innovation
Innovation shouldn’t come through new controls and gimmicks. It should come through new gameplay mechanics and whole new genres.
It’s like saying innovation in the movie industry is somehow tied to TV remotes.
Re: Microsoft Has Just Bought Bethesda, Giving It Doom, Fallout, Elder Scrolls And Wolfenstein
I'm happy it looks like Xbox is going to be a credible competitor this time around. All 3 can say they have great reasons to buy their hardware.
Re: Random: Some 3D All-Stars Players Aren't Happy About The Visible Debug Cubes In Super Mario Sunshine
A global pandemic is no excuse. Game development is quite easy to do working from home. The entire Ori and the Blind Forest game was made by a WFH team. It’s irrelevant though. This is a rom and an emulator. Nintendo have always done a terrible job with emulation considering they are professional deva with access to all original hardware specs and code. People that do it in their spare time usually five better results.
Re: Disgaea 6: Defiance Of Destiny Is A Nintendo Switch Exclusive Coming Summer 2021
Aw yeah it’s been too long since Disgaea 5.
Re: It's Official, Immortals Fenyx Rising Launches On Switch This December
Will wait for reviews (and price drops) but I think this looks pretty good.
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About 'Limited-Time' Games From Nintendo?
Don’t like it, but unfortunately it will bring them high sales and they’ll likely do it again.
Re: Super Mario 3D World On Switch Appears To Be A Lot Faster Than The Wii U Original
I saw a quote somewhere yesterday that 3D World was Nintendo's most ambitious port yet, and suggested quite a different experience.
Re: Here's The Resolution Of Each Game In Super Mario 3D All-Stars
The more I hear about Mario 64, the more disappointing it gets. Let me be clear. The game does not NEED anything done to it. I played it a few years ago, and I don't think it's aged as badly as people are saying. However, you have people that are doing a better job in their spare time with a lot of these PC port projects. Nintendo, with all their paid developers and access to source code should not be getting outdone by fan projects.
Re: Nintendo Announces Super Mario Remasters And Much More In Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary Direct
Positively surprised the 3 games are in one package, but massively disappointed by the lack of Galaxy 2.
Re: Jurassic World Evolution: Complete Edition Roars Onto Nintendo Switch This November
It’s definitely not as good as Planet Coaster or Planet Zoo, but I think the reviews were a bit harsh on it (the Push Square review is much higher than the norm). If you’re a Jurassic Park fan, you’ll likely get some enjoyment from it.
Re: Rocky Comes To Switch In Big Rumble Boxing: Creed Champions
The VR game is fantastic, but the VR is such a huge part of what makes it good.
Re: Netflix's Gaming Documentary High Score Is A Nostalgia Trip Worth A Watch
Interested to watch this. I know it's not the same people, but the Toys That Made Us is one of the best docu-series I've ever seen. A lot of the toys I don't care about, but it's still fascinating.
I do think these things are not aimed at fans as hardcore as us though. More the casual gamers that buy 1-2 games a year, and don't visit forums or watch gaming stuff on youtube.
Re: Yep, The Switch Has Now Outsold The NES
@SwitchForce PS2 has pretty much the best software attach rate of any console out there. Over 10 games sold for every console. Doesn’t sound like people bought it just for DVDs. The Switch is around 6.5 for each console.
Re: Feature: All The Paper Mario Games, Ranked By You
Wow, look at all those 8/10s from NLife!
First two Paper Mario games are among my favourite of all time, but it's now been over 15 years since the series had a great game. Super Paper Mario seemed like a big drop in quality at the time, but even that was decent. Since then, I'd go as far as saying they've all been BAD games. It's now like Star Fox, a series that is lauded, but has far more bad games than good games.
Re: Feature: Keeping It Physical In A Digital Age
I've got rid of all physical media other than games and I'm so happy with it. So much needless clutter out of my house.
There's so many issues with games though, and with Nintendo more than most. With music, movies and TV shows I know there's no worry about things becoming unavailable, but with gaming it's far too common. Hopefully in a few years, console generations and dedicated hardware will be consigned to history, and that will at least stop games being 'stuck' on old hardware. The licensing issue will still remain though.
Another issue is the pricing. Sales are great, but it's still so much easier to find physical games dropping in price, and of course the pre-owned market.
@ThanosReXXX I bought a new PC in March, and not many come with a disc drive these days. If you're buying a PC game it's likely through steam or EGS, and if you're watching films, it's probably on a streaming service.
Re: Switch Software Sales Are Comfortably Beating The PS2's, The Best-Selling Console Of All Time
Everyone is acting like the PS2 had poor software sales, but it had a better attach rate than ANY Nintendo hardware. The total PS2 software 50% higher than the total DS software despite similar hardware numbers sold. It sold a TON of software, but it was spread over a huge choice of games. With Switch, everyone has a similar library, ie the Nintendo releases.
Re: Pikmin 3 Deluxe: 19 Glorious Screenshots, Box Art, File Size And More Details
Crazy that they're charging full price for this, and also delisted the Wii U version immediately. They built their gaming business on anti-consumer practices and still going strong.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says Team Is "No Longer Able To Graphically Represent Individual Characteristics" In Toad NPCs
The Mario RPG games have been going downhill for a long time, but this is such a baffling thing. What is the reason for this? What benefit is there?
Re: Talking Point: Is Nintendo Making As Many Games As It Used To?
A lot of the switch games included in those numbers are also ports from their previous consoles. The Switch release schedule feels too much like the Wii U for me. Yes, there are more 3rd party ports coming in which will satisfy a lot of people, but for someone that buys all consoles and uses Nintendo machines just for Nintendo exclusives... it's really no better than the Wii U.
In 2018, 2019 and 2020, the only Switch games that really interest me are Fire Emblem: Three Houses, Luigi's Mansion 3 and Pokemon Sword/Shield. That's nothing in 2018, and so far nothing in 2020.
I was really excited about the idea of them consolidating and just bringing out a hybrid machine, but personally, there's less interesting games now than ever.
Re: Poll: No, Really, What Was Nintendo's Worst Year?
2020 has been pretty bad, and a lot of ports of good games and DLC isn't going to change that for me. I don't care for Animal Crossing at all, and Paper Mario is now done for me a series. Two great games, and then 15 years of rubbish. There's literally been nothing for me. I'm sure people will go nuts for the Mario ports, but again, it's not exciting getting games I already own and can play quite easily.
Having said that, it's not as bad as 2016. 2020 has had nothing for me, but I struggle to see how anyone was satisfied with 2016.
Re: Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes Of An Elusive Age - Definitive Edition Is No Longer Exclusive To Switch
God damn it. Why SE? I haven't bought a version of DQXI yet because I didn't want the crappy music from the PS4 or the massively downgraded visuals of the Switch. How hard would it be to put out an actual definitive version instead of making people choose if they want the superior visuals or audio?
Re: Balan Wonderworld, A 3D Platformer From The Creators Of Sonic The Hedgehog, Is Coming To Switch
This looked very interesting, and of course Yuji Naka is a legend, but I always worry that the industry has moved on. Sometimes we're nostalgic for older developers, but find when they put out a game that's just as good as anything they've done in the past, it doesn't feel as good, because actually games have come a long way.
Re: Talking Point: Is EA's Switch Strategy Lazy, Or Simply Common Sense?
There's nothing lazy about it. They don't make games for PS4 and XB1 because they like those machines, but because they make money. Switch, like any Nintendo console will always have a couple of big drawbacks for 3rd parties, and that's the fanbase's tendency to not really buy 3rd party games in big numbers, but also the work involved in porting. They can create a game that runs on PS4 and XB1 with minimal changes needed, so one project can sell to a huge userbase over 150 million strong. Making something work on Switch takes a lot more work, which costs a lot more money.
Re: Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time Has Been Rated In Taiwan
@Henmii There's a trailer now.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Release A Digital-Only Switch?
The disc-less PS5 is clearly the main design. The disc drive looks awkwardly added on.
Physical media is becoming a huge bottle neck for gaming, and that's only going to get worse as SSD takes over. I don't think there will be any disc drive options for the PS6 and 5th gen of Xbox.
Nintendo will take longer as usual, but they'll go the same way eventually.
Re: Yes, Sega's "Revolutionary" Announcement Is To Use Its Arcades As Cloud Gaming Data Centers
Random people on the internet hyped it up. It was always meant to be big news for Japan, and it IS big news for Japan.
Re: Witcher 3 Port Specialist Thinks Devs Can Get More Out Of The Nintendo Switch
As someone that gets all the consoles, it's hard to get excited about ports. The exception would be games that are now very expensive to play legally. Thousand Year Door, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for examples, or games that can only be played with horrible controls like Skyward Sword. All on board for those ports.
Re: Paper Mario Is Coming To Switch! Paper Mario: The Origami King To Launch This July
Super hesitant about this. Good Paper Mario is awesome, but there hasn't been a good Paper Mario IMO for over 15 years.
Re: UK Charts: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Sales Fall By 81% In Disappointing Week For Nintendo
80% is a very standard second week drop.