I don't think it matters. The Switch 2 is really only a product for the hardcore Nintendo fans. The odd game here or there is enough to satisfy along with better performance of Switch 1 games.
Nintendo need to sort out the godawful lag and inaccurate analogue sensitivity in their NSO games also. F Zero GX plays so much better on GCN/WII/WII U it's not funny.
@NFrealinkling Lets not get carried away now. It's Nintendo's way of destroying the second hand market and driving sales. They aren't gonna sell to anyone but the desperate and obsessed hardcore legion of fans.
Such a disappointment. If Mario Kart 8 is a celebration of all things Nintendo, World is a major regression. No defending this. Sega did the same with the follow ups to All Stars Transformed, though the latest entry looks like it is going to take the crown - especially since the latest reports have said Sega took all on board from the fan feedback! Nintendo have dropped the ball.
@NeonPizza The Switch 2 emulation isn't 1:1 with the GCN original. It is missing the depth of field blur which is important to the stylisation and aesthetic of the GCN original. As someone who actually played the original multiple times on og hardware back in 2003/04, the HD rerelease on Wii U is undeniably the best version.
Looks great, no doubt the way Nintendo are flailing around these days they'll launch a lawsuit against the devs claiming it infringes on their patents.
DISGUSTING AND AWFUL FOR JUST A FPS AND RESOLUTION BOOST, should be 10 for both. Atleast Sony include revamped textures and improved graphics with their upgrades!!!!
GREED. Nintendo have been showing their cards this past two years. They think just because they got lucky with Switch its a certified round 2 so can charge whatever the hell they want. Back to their old 90s habits - egotistical, pig ignorant lunatics. Once the 10 million desperate fan boys get their hands on one sales will stall and flatline. So stupid but glad they will finally be forced to go third party - fed up playing their games running on gimped hardware.
@Orpheus79V nothing to do with tarrifs and all to do with Nintendo returning to their awful price fixing, greed infused ways of the 90s. Switch 2 will be Nintendos last run on hardware.
@ear_wig I think Monolith spent so much time crafting the huge overworld and spectacular creatures that they run out of time and never got to optimise New LA in the original Wii U release. Amazing game though.
@squidduforeal I have always found Microsoft give removal dates well in advance. An example is Forza Horizon 4 which was announced nearly a year before and was regularly discounted. Not to mention if you own the game, you always have access to redownload - Microsoft may be a corporation people love to hate, but they tend to be really good to Xbox gamers in my experience.
@Giancarlothomaz The Switch is much closer to the PS3/360/Wii U than a PS4. The 4GB RAM is what helped edge Switch ahead of those systems. I can't see the Switch 2 being as powerful as PS4 let alone 4.5, but I am hoping to be surprised.
@Jeronan Unreal Engine games are in general really unoptimised - it might make ports easier due to it being a common standard but on a whole it's a terrible engine with zero optimisation and tonnes of feature creep.
@Arkay Nintendo stipulated parity as they wanted to use it specifically for their online subscription - they accepted a Microsoft edition running in 4K widescreen by default , however it was not allowed any further graphical enhancements. To balance out superior performance and control on Xbox, the Switch edition was the only one allowed to have basic online functionality.
Rare already had a GoldenEye remaster in house from over 10 years ago, a near final version was leaked. Had Nintendo been more flexible and didn't insist on the game exclusively on their pityful wreck of an online service, MS would have released the remaster on both consoles with superior online functionality.
Mclassic enhancements are clearest with 720p. Works wonders upscaling and cleaning up aliasing on games from BOTW to ME3 to Xenoblade X on Wii U on a 50" 4K set.
@PKDuckman Nintendo won't let them, it's Nintendo's way or the highway. Nintendo are the sole reason for GoldenEye not receiving the remaster treatment it deserved sadly. MS wanted to deliver a Nightdive level of remaster - Nintendo said no.
@kkslider5552000 Nintendo really can't be bothered. They despise putting money into giving fans a high quality service. Even Pilotwings 64 still isn't fixed.
If Grezzo locked the framerate to 30 it would be fine. But as it is the framerate is borderline offensive, it's all over the place and it's very obvious due to the constant stuttering and screen judder - it's like a PowerPoint slideshow at times.
Only the obsessed XXX Nintendo hardcore, who are obsessed with getting a whiff of Miyamotos used underwear will PRETEND they don't notice it.
@brunojenso I mean't hardware, console in a box, I wasn't extending to their games, there's no doubting those mentioned.
What I meant was Nintendo used to go for straight up generational improvements in terms of graphics performance until Wii/DS arrived. NES, SNES, N64, GCN where all cutting edge, powerful pieces of kit on release, then out if necessity, Nintendo had to focus on gimmicks. The NES, SNES, N64 and GCN all had functional controller innovations but they weren't the selling point of the hardware, they were quality of life enhancements, they were in service of the hardware. The DS ushered in the gimmick focus approach - touch screen, Wii - Wiimotes, 3DS - glasses free 3D, Wii U - Gamepad, Switch - hybrid handheld.
So my point is, that a straight up Switch 2, with a logical tech upgrade including QoL improvements in terms of controller input/comfort is arguably a return to Nintendo's more clear cut generational leaps from yesteryear...
@brunojenso Nothing wrong with playing it safe. Nintendo didn't really 'innovate' or more accurately shift their focus to gimmicks until the DS and Wii, before then they made traditional hardware - this is Nintendo returning to their core business.
The big issue is, how are Nintendo going to get the 130 million casual fans to upgrade? Only hardcore Nintendo fans bought Wii U - so we learnt from it that Nintendo's longterm fanbase had severely diminished to 13 million due to their lack of focus and refusal to get with the times.
Sony are facing the same issue with PS5, they've shipped 60-70 million consoles and have only sold 30 million to real customers. Why? Because their casual fans see no need to upgrade when the games they want to play online like fortnite play perfectly fine on PS4.
@batmanbud2 Sure did, it's not illegal if you own the game and your own rom back up.
I was discussing playing on TV via Wii U - 3D DS games at 192p are a horrific pixellated mess on a large screen. You can actually hack the official DS emulator on Wii U to run at 2x resolution and it makes a MAJOR difference for 3D titles.
Not only that but out of sheer hate for their older fans Nintendo applied dark filters to a large portion of their VC catalogue.
It will be interesting to see if the Switch can keep a decent pace - I'm not sure if the fisher price cpu in the Switch could run a game as fast as this at 60.
@F_Destroyer First time I've heard the words brute power associated with Switch lol. You can't say 33x more powerful because it isn't, Terraflops are one part of the puzzle. A Switch at its best is approximately 16x more powerful than a GameCube with max safe overclocks applied.
Switch 2 will be close to Steam Deck territory which should make emulating GameCube/Wii games easier.
I suppose lego would be a pretty decent Christmas present this year for an 8 year old Nintendo gamer, considering Switch has no games worth buying this Christmas.
Looks ok, but also looks too fast for the Switch to handle, if Nintendo couldn't work out how to get F Zero GX to run on Switch due to the speed of rendering required, these guys would have no hope.
@link12684 Agreed, Sonys sales figures should all be taken with a pinch of salt. Sony only provide 'Shipping/Sell in' numbers not actual sell through, customer sales that Nintendo and MS provide.
Even in terms of PS3/PS4/PS5 sales figures, I would cut a good 10-20 million off Sonys figure and then you'd have the real numbers sold to real people.
@johnedwin Yea, if Nintendo gives Switch a decent price cut, down to $99 and under like console manufacturers all used to do in the good old days a consoles twilight years, it will sell another 20million+ easy, but I can't ever see them willing to do that, big Corporations are no longer consumer friendly when it comes to passing on cost reductions.
But as for Sonys sales numbers - I'd take them with a pinch of salt. Sony only provide 'Shipping/Sell in' numbers not actual sell through, customer sales that Nintendo and MS provide.
Even in terms of PS3/PS5 sales to customers, I would say cut 10-20 million off Sonys claim and you have the real numbers sold figure.
@glennthefrog Nintendo reluctantly provide this retro service as they know that they will once again have to rely on their hardcore gaming fanbase when the going gets tough to see them through.
Nintendo's ego ensured that GoldenEye will never receive the remastered release it so deserves. Perfect Dark is lucky to have been snapped up by Microsoft.
PlayStation games have become too complex and online connected to interest Japanese gamers.
The simpler, child like, more basic and less challenging offerings from Nintendo has worked massively in its favour in terms of sales... However Nintendo will have to keep Switch 2 cost in check in order to maintain their roll.
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Re: Poll: Three Months In, How Would You Rate Switch 2's Library So Far?
I don't think it matters. The Switch 2 is really only a product for the hardcore Nintendo fans. The odd game here or there is enough to satisfy along with better performance of Switch 1 games.
Re: Switch 2 Dock Supports VRR After All, But It Doesn't Actually Work With Console
They're reserving it for Switch 2 oled.
Re: Talking Point: With Bigger GameCube File Sizes, Should Nintendo Let Us Download Individual NSO Games?
Nintendo need to sort out the godawful lag and inaccurate analogue sensitivity in their NSO games also. F Zero GX plays so much better on GCN/WII/WII U it's not funny.
Re: Nintendo's Ability To Ban Switch 2 Consoles Has Landed It In Hot Water
@NFrealinkling Lets not get carried away now. It's Nintendo's way of destroying the second hand market and driving sales. They aren't gonna sell to anyone but the desperate and obsessed hardcore legion of fans.
Re: Video: Switch 2's GameCube Emulation Apparently Has Underlying Issues Nintendo "Desperately Needs To Fix"
Once again Nintendo give long term fans the middle finger.
Re: Three Nintendo Ray Tracing & Rendering-Related Patents Published In Japan
In 2026 Nintendo will be attempting to sue every company using raytracing due to Switch 2 sales stalling and Switch 1 sales falling.
Re: Review: Nintendo Switch 2 Piranha Plant Camera - Shocking Image Quality, But Its Cuteness Will Snare You
Gamechat is so embarrassingly low quality it should have been axed. Who would pay for such a crap feature other than the desperate and obsessed fan.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Mario Kart World
Such a disappointment. If Mario Kart 8 is a celebration of all things Nintendo, World is a major regression. No defending this. Sega did the same with the follow ups to All Stars Transformed, though the latest entry looks like it is going to take the crown - especially since the latest reports have said Sega took all on board from the fan feedback! Nintendo have dropped the ball.
Re: PSA: Got A Switch 2 Pro Controller? This Little Capture Trick Is A Game-Changer
Imagine not being able to implement analogue triggers in a pro controller. What a joke.
Re: Nintendo Shares More Footage Of Zelda: Wind Waker On Switch 2
@NeonPizza The Switch 2 emulation isn't 1:1 with the GCN original. It is missing the depth of field blur which is important to the stylisation and aesthetic of the GCN original. As someone who actually played the original multiple times on og hardware back in 2003/04, the HD rerelease on Wii U is undeniably the best version.
Re: Feature: The Switch 2 Sticks Might Not Be Hall Effect, But They Feel Fantastic
Doesn't matter, there's still no analogue triggers. Obviously reserved for Switch 3 if Switch 2 survives.
Re: MicroSD Express Cards Are Selling Out Thanks To Switch 2 Fever
Embarrassing.
Re: Nintendo Removes Variable Refresh Rate TV Mention On Switch 2 Websites
Switch 2 is not full of new technology. The technology might be new to Nintendo and Nintendo only gamers, but for everyone else, it's old news.
Re: Feature: "I Can't Believe This Is Happening" - The Game Kitchen On Reviving Ninja Gaiden
Looks great, no doubt the way Nintendo are flailing around these days they'll launch a lawsuit against the devs claiming it infringes on their patents.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
PS4 level power is not what I'd call a powerhouse fanbot.
Re: Upgrade Pack Price For Zelda: BOTW And TOTK Has Been Confirmed
@jfp The Switch 2 physical releases are the Switch versions with an upgrade code. Nothing more than a key.
Re: Upgrade Pack Price For Zelda: BOTW And TOTK Has Been Confirmed
DISGUSTING AND AWFUL FOR JUST A FPS AND RESOLUTION BOOST, should be 10 for both. Atleast Sony include revamped textures and improved graphics with their upgrades!!!!
Re: Community: Which Switch 2 Games Are You Wishlisting?
None of them as they all look... meh, including MK World. The increasingly desperate fan boys need to hold off purchasing to force Nintendo's hand.
Steam Deck is much better value.
Re: Switch 2 Games Cost A Bit More Than You're Probably Expecting
GREED. Nintendo have been showing their cards this past two years. They think just because they got lucky with Switch its a certified round 2 so can charge whatever the hell they want. Back to their old 90s habits - egotistical, pig ignorant lunatics. Once the 10 million desperate fan boys get their hands on one sales will stall and flatline. So stupid but glad they will finally be forced to go third party - fed up playing their games running on gimped hardware.
Re: Nintendo Is (Kinda) Returning To Region-Locking With A Cheaper Japanese Switch 2
@Orpheus79V nothing to do with tarrifs and all to do with Nintendo returning to their awful price fixing, greed infused ways of the 90s. Switch 2 will be Nintendos last run on hardware.
Re: Nintendo Is (Kinda) Returning To Region-Locking With A Cheaper Japanese Switch 2
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Re: Digital Foundry Analyses The Tech In Xenoblade Chronicles X For Switch
@ear_wig I think Monolith spent so much time crafting the huge overworld and spectacular creatures that they run out of time and never got to optimise New LA in the original Wii U release. Amazing game though.
Re: New Nintendo Patent Is All About 2D Visuals, But Don't Jump To Any Remake Conclusions
Nintendo attempting to patent all gaming RN. Clearly worried and need a backup once Switch 2 fails.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Removal Of Switch Online SNES Game
@squidduforeal I have always found Microsoft give removal dates well in advance. An example is Forza Horizon 4 which was announced nearly a year before and was regularly discounted.
Not to mention if you own the game, you always have access to redownload - Microsoft may be a corporation people love to hate, but they tend to be really good to Xbox gamers in my experience.
Re: Not Even Squaresoft Could Convince Nintendo To Use Discs For The N64
@SuntannedDuck2 True, however the vast majority of N64 games were 8-12MB, a few reached 24MB, a handful of 32MB and only 3 were 64MB.
Re: Digital Foundry Weighs In On 'Switch 2' Motherboard - Just How Powerful Is It?
@Giancarlothomaz The Switch is much closer to the PS3/360/Wii U than a PS4. The 4GB RAM is what helped edge Switch ahead of those systems. I can't see the Switch 2 being as powerful as PS4 let alone 4.5, but I am hoping to be surprised.
Re: Digital Foundry Weighs In On 'Switch 2' Motherboard - Just How Powerful Is It?
@Jeronan Unreal Engine games are in general really unoptimised - it might make ports easier due to it being a common standard but on a whole it's a terrible engine with zero optimisation and tonnes of feature creep.
Re: Random: Mario Galaxy Returns Next Year In "The Biggest Super Mario Odyssey Mod Yet"
Fans do what Nintenwont.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Speeds Onto Nintendo Switch "Soon"
@Dee123 Sonic All-stars Racing Transformed is an exception. It is on par and frequently better than Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
Re: Nintendo's Lawsuit Against Palworld Is "A Clear Case Of Bullying", Says Analyst
Palworld does what Nintendon't. Pokemon has a long way to go before it reaches Palworlds quality.
Re: Switch Online's Latest "Mature" N64 App Update Appears To Fix Some Perfect Dark Emulation Issues
@Arkay Nintendo stipulated parity as they wanted to use it specifically for their online subscription - they accepted a Microsoft edition running in 4K widescreen by default , however it was not allowed any further graphical enhancements. To balance out superior performance and control on Xbox, the Switch edition was the only one allowed to have basic online functionality.
Rare already had a GoldenEye remaster in house from over 10 years ago, a near final version was leaked. Had Nintendo been more flexible and didn't insist on the game exclusively on their pityful wreck of an online service, MS would have released the remaster on both consoles with superior online functionality.
Re: 'Switch Pro' Dongle Is Making A Comeback With New 'RGB Collection'
Mclassic enhancements are clearest with 720p. Works wonders upscaling and cleaning up aliasing on games from BOTW to ME3 to Xenoblade X on Wii U on a 50" 4K set.
Re: Switch Online's Latest "Mature" N64 App Update Appears To Fix Some Perfect Dark Emulation Issues
@PKDuckman Nintendo won't let them, it's Nintendo's way or the highway. Nintendo are the sole reason for GoldenEye not receiving the remaster treatment it deserved sadly. MS wanted to deliver a Nightdive level of remaster - Nintendo said no.
Re: Switch Online's Latest "Mature" N64 App Update Appears To Fix Some Perfect Dark Emulation Issues
@kkslider5552000 Nintendo really can't be bothered. They despise putting money into giving fans a high quality service. Even Pilotwings 64 still isn't fixed.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Might Be Gearing Up For A GameCube Controller Comeback
It would be good to see the GCN controller design with an additional Z button and clickable sticks become the Switch 2 Pro controller.
Re: Poll: Are You Bothered By The Frame Rate In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom?
If Grezzo locked the framerate to 30 it would be fine. But as it is the framerate is borderline offensive, it's all over the place and it's very obvious due to the constant stuttering and screen judder - it's like a PowerPoint slideshow at times.
Only the obsessed XXX Nintendo hardcore, who are obsessed with getting a whiff of Miyamotos used underwear will PRETEND they don't notice it.
Re: Random: Someone 3D Printed The Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design
@brunojenso I mean't hardware, console in a box, I wasn't extending to their games, there's no doubting those mentioned.
What I meant was Nintendo used to go for straight up generational improvements in terms of graphics performance until Wii/DS arrived. NES, SNES, N64, GCN where all cutting edge, powerful pieces of kit on release, then out if necessity, Nintendo had to focus on gimmicks. The NES, SNES, N64 and GCN all had functional controller innovations but they weren't the selling point of the hardware, they were quality of life enhancements, they were in service of the hardware. The DS ushered in the gimmick focus approach - touch screen, Wii - Wiimotes, 3DS - glasses free 3D, Wii U - Gamepad, Switch - hybrid handheld.
So my point is, that a straight up Switch 2, with a logical tech upgrade including QoL improvements in terms of controller input/comfort is arguably a return to Nintendo's more clear cut generational leaps from yesteryear...
Re: Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom's Map Is Eight Times The Size Of Link's Awakening's
Pity it has 8x the framerate issues too.
Re: Random: Someone 3D Printed The Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design
@brunojenso Nothing wrong with playing it safe. Nintendo didn't really 'innovate' or more accurately shift their focus to gimmicks until the DS and Wii, before then they made traditional hardware - this is Nintendo returning to their core business.
The big issue is, how are Nintendo going to get the 130 million casual fans to upgrade? Only hardcore Nintendo fans bought Wii U - so we learnt from it that Nintendo's longterm fanbase had severely diminished to 13 million due to their lack of focus and refusal to get with the times.
Sony are facing the same issue with PS5, they've shipped 60-70 million consoles and have only sold 30 million to real customers. Why? Because their casual fans see no need to upgrade when the games they want to play online like fortnite play perfectly fine on PS4.
Re: Random: Someone 3D Printed The Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design
@Doomcrow They'll launch a cute version after a year.
Re: Random: Someone 3D Printed The Rumoured 'Switch 2' Design
@premko1 it is.
Re: Review: The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Wii U eShop / DS)
@batmanbud2 Sure did, it's not illegal if you own the game and your own rom back up.
I was discussing playing on TV via Wii U - 3D DS games at 192p are a horrific pixellated mess on a large screen. You can actually hack the official DS emulator on Wii U to run at 2x resolution and it makes a MAJOR difference for 3D titles.
Not only that but out of sheer hate for their older fans Nintendo applied dark filters to a large portion of their VC catalogue.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Gets A Limited Edition With A Gorgeous Dreamcast Statue
It will be interesting to see if the Switch can keep a decent pace - I'm not sure if the fisher price cpu in the Switch could run a game as fast as this at 60.
Re: F-Zero Inspired Racer 'Aero GPX' Launches In Early Access Today
@F_Destroyer First time I've heard the words brute power associated with Switch lol. You can't say 33x more powerful because it isn't, Terraflops are one part of the puzzle. A Switch at its best is approximately 16x more powerful than a GameCube with max safe overclocks applied.
Switch 2 will be close to Steam Deck territory which should make emulating GameCube/Wii games easier.
Re: Deals: More LEGO Zelda Deku Tree Pre-Orders Appear With Tempting Bundle Discount (UK)
I suppose lego would be a pretty decent Christmas present this year for an 8 year old Nintendo gamer, considering Switch has no games worth buying this Christmas.
Re: F-Zero Inspired Racer 'Aero GPX' Launches In Early Access Today
Looks ok, but also looks too fast for the Switch to handle, if Nintendo couldn't work out how to get F Zero GX to run on Switch due to the speed of rendering required, these guys would have no hope.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sales Hit 143 Million As Hardware And Software Figures Decline
@link12684 Agreed, Sonys sales figures should all be taken with a pinch of salt. Sony only provide 'Shipping/Sell in' numbers not actual sell through, customer sales that Nintendo and MS provide.
Even in terms of PS3/PS4/PS5 sales figures, I would cut a good 10-20 million off Sonys figure and then you'd have the real numbers sold to real people.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sales Hit 143 Million As Hardware And Software Figures Decline
@johnedwin Yea, if Nintendo gives Switch a decent price cut, down to $99 and under like console manufacturers all used to do in the good old days a consoles twilight years, it will sell another 20million+ easy, but I can't ever see them willing to do that, big Corporations are no longer consumer friendly when it comes to passing on cost reductions.
But as for Sonys sales numbers - I'd take them with a pinch of salt. Sony only provide 'Shipping/Sell in' numbers not actual sell through, customer sales that Nintendo and MS provide.
Even in terms of PS3/PS5 sales to customers, I would say cut 10-20 million off Sonys claim and you have the real numbers sold figure.
Re: Switch Online's Latest N64 Release 'Perfect Dark' Appears To Have Some Emulation Issues
@glennthefrog Nintendo reluctantly provide this retro service as they know that they will once again have to rely on their hardcore gaming fanbase when the going gets tough to see them through.
Nintendo's ego ensured that GoldenEye will never receive the remastered release it so deserves. Perfect Dark is lucky to have been snapped up by Microsoft.
Re: Japanese Charts: Paper Mario Dominates As The Switch Scores A Full House
PlayStation games have become too complex and online connected to interest Japanese gamers.
The simpler, child like, more basic and less challenging offerings from Nintendo has worked massively in its favour in terms of sales... However Nintendo will have to keep Switch 2 cost in check in order to maintain their roll.