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@Lemmy_the_Koopa I'm sure Valve has already planned ahead. Anyways all PC games are made scalable. As for Switch, half the games are running at 576p sub 30 now.

After seeing this Nintendo have cancelled all R and D on Switch 2.

@JoyBoy there are no hardcore gamers on Switch.

@Mr-Fuggles777 or else it will cause them to delay until its too late, just like the Wii.

@Megame go cry me a river anti gamer spawn of satan. Repent.

@NielsNL always a copy and paste armchair borathon warrior.

@adamman12345 the game engine needs fixed.

Nintendo's original, shoddy, unoptimised unskilled, pathetic inept coding needs to be cleaned up.

If Switch can manage 480p30 in a game like this Switch owners are in for a treat.

The Switch is the modern day tiger electronics.

Nintendo are a disgrace.

@johnvboy The Switch is finished, too little too late.

@ChakraStomps yea, because Nintendo have never released a follow up device before. 🤪🤪🤪 Lol.

It'll be nice too see what Nintendo muster with Switch 2. All these reduced quality Wii U ports are getting boring. And yes, Nintendo purposely locked their Wii U titles to 720p to make Switch appear more powerful. Smash Bros U has faster response on Wii U at 1080p - enough said.

@Wavey84 that's very true. My Pioneer KRP600 60" plasma wipes the floor with all tvs to this day.

@Mr-Fuggles777 480p you mean.

@Pinfield well you must love putting your eyes through pain by choosing Switch over Series X.

@wanderwonder not many Switch owners own TVs.

@AndrewR Given a short while, likely it will be emulating all Switch games at 800p60 in docked mode, that will be the main reason to own one - for gamers who won't lower themselves to the Switches oft 480i output. Imagine finally able to play Hyrule Warriors BOTW at 60fps instead of the typical sub 720 to 480 5-20fps scaling on Switch.

@Anti-Matter your games are sadly locked on a platform due to kick the bucket within 2 years, hopefully Nintendo will offer back compat on Switch 2 .

@WhiteUmbrella @Muddy_4_Ever Switch 2 won't even be in the same league as Steam Deck. Nintendo are all about maximum profit and cutting corners on hardware and online infrastructure.

@Anti-Matter lol, Nintendo are the only company you can guarantee will not honor digital sales from generation to generation so hardly a plus point.

There's something heart warming about Nintendo fans being the reason to raise prices across the industry.

Guarantee Steam Deck will be emulating Switch games this year. Then next year it will be running them better than Switch, goodbye 240p Switch Doom and Wolfenstein!!

@Thaliard Valve are taking a hit.

It's time to Switch off.

@yuwarite I think Nintendo have done well to keep a system the same power as Wii U in the game for so long. I hope they don't do as they did on Wii where they left it too late to follow up.

@Dround87 Everything is butchered on Switch these days.

@mchief190 probably talking around 50 for Switch oled.

@HammerKirby The Zelda hd rerelease is much slower and has a much lower rendering budget. Sonic Colors is far more elaborate visually and is also more than just a quick update.

Perhaps if Sega simply updated the Wii graphics for Switch to 720/1080p we would be seeing 60fps.

@Heavyarms55 Seriously bro, divided library? PS4 and Xbox didn't have a divided library when the Xbox One X and Pro came out so that's not even a thing. Developers where making games with high fidelity anyway and simply had to scale down to suit the platform. No reason Nintendo couldn't do that, but then this is Nintendo so they probably couldn't.

I imagine the OLED in Switch is likely much older OLED tech that never sold and Nintendo got it dirt cheap. The Switch must cost all of about €5 to manufacfure now, and Nintendo are milking it. The whole inards of the Switch and Joycons are fisherprice level of quality.

@Linux7055 it will be Switch 2 in 2023.

I think Nintendo have decided the Switch 2 will only be a minor jump again, maybe a jump similar from 3DS to New3DS where everything was simply doubled.

So faster framerates in more demanding games, and Nvidia DLSS to fit the bill for upscaling 720 to 4K.

Still Nintendo aren't providing much hope anymore. The Switch is nothing more than a Wii U in handheld form, one could say oh some Wii U ports run at 1080p, but that's only due to Nintendo refining their 3D engines on a standardised platform, Wii U was exotic hardware and I think it was never fully harnessed whereas the Switch is being pushed to the limit, and in the end Nintendo where purposely hard limiting their Wii U titles to 720p as they new the Switch HAD to look better.

@Nookingtons Sharper picture? Well it is a lower pixel density and some games were already pushing the boundary of acceptable in handheld lol.

I don't think Oled burn in will be much of an issue, the same with plasma. Plasma was tainted by incorrect use of early tech and by tech giants like Samsung, LG and Sony unable to compete with Pioneer. So they continuously pushed Plasma burn in as a thing until cheap to manufacture LCD took supreme lead. Even now Digital Foundry Oled is being compared to Plasma in terms of rich colour, contrast and deep blacks.

My 60" 1080P Pioneer KRP600 is over 10 years old and going going strong. Ended up putting my new top of the range Samsung hdr 4K QLED in the kitchen as the picture quality is no where near touching plasma, and not deserving in a cinema room.

@RupeeClock this is Nintendo so yes it will have that problem as Nintendo will have sourced the cheapest and oldest oled tech available.

If we take time to reflect this makes Nintendo marketing sense so we can guess the Switch 2 will infact be a minor upgrade.

The Switch is Wii U level graphics, it wasn't an upgrade, it was a sidegrade whereby the tech became available to fit a Wii U into a handheld and give it a new lease.
Much like the Wii was actually a Gamecube 1.5.

Switch 2 will be a modest at most upgrade - jumping to 2010 level PCs.

If Nintendo want to make the Switch 2 look like a big jump they have to keep the current model as is.

Perfect.

Wow, what a lazy upgrade. I was expecting a New3DSXL like update which was actually really good but I guess this means Nintendo want Switch 2 to look like a really big jump within the next 2 years.

The master sword is a narcissist.

@Zenszulu To be fair Nintendo's R and D most definitely have been working on it. Nintendo won't want to do another Wii U, where they left it too late to capitalise on brand name.

@Res462 Switch Pro is coming, however it could well be a Switch 2, OLED screens and a much more powerful CPU, GPU and Ram all looking likely (think everything x2 like New 3DS) and I it may well be held for Breath of the Wild 2 launch, meaning an announcement next year, or perhaps even later this year once they have enough units manufactured.

@HamatoYoshi it is.

@HamatoYoshi @Hughesy It's running on real hardware and it is not pre rendered. It is a scripted sequence running in real time, you could swap screens and move the camera. Also at this point the Wii U only had 1GB of RAM at this point in development, as opposed to the full 2GB in the final hardware.

@Decapre One man's 'mistake' is another man's treasure. Brilliant, unique console, with a massive back catalogue of games that can be installed on it. You simply don't understand business, design or how the Wii U influenced the development of the Switch and the move to hybrid.

Wii U was Nintendo's first run at HD graphics, 8 years late to the party - they had to start somewhere. Without Wii U the Switch would not have been.

@BulbasaurusRex they were fine lol.

I think we can say Nintendo are safe as the games they've attempted semi realism in feature the worst texture work in the business. No artist would want to put their name to it 😂😂😂😂

@Sam_TSM all of 1kb to save for a chest location lol.

@aaronsullivan yea, that's good ole Nintendo for you lol.

I think with the fade out of Yamuchi era staff, with their ego stroking and blind hate of other manufacturers, including partners and consumers has finally disappeared.

@Sinton Wii HD was Wii U. Unfortunately Nintendo got so lazy riding the Wii wave they left it too late, it crashed and they failed to launch on time, with exotic hardware and having to play catchup in developing HD games. The Wii U was a learning process.

They don't want to make the same mistake twice.

@locky-mavo what's wrong with Dice or Bioware? DICE are at their best. Bioware only have themselves to blame for Anthem and Andromeda, but that was mismanagement within the studio as EA where hands off. EA still plough money into their projects - look at Mass Effect Trilogy remaster - incredible.

Look at Mario Anniversary in comparison, lazy full price emulation jobs.

@Strictlystyles EA get too much flack, they are one of the few 3rd parties with a varied catalogue. Look at the incredible funding given for Mass effect Trilogy, an incredible remaster, literally 1000s of assets remade, compared to Nintendo who can't be arsed remastering 3 Mario games, and charge full whack for the privilege of emulation.

Much better to play on a quest 1 or 2 to get a vr experience.

@kurtasbestos I bought a cheap Sandisk 500GB SSD about two years ago, burnt all my Wii U discs via Wii U and transferred them all to it (some discs had a few scrapes and unreliable at times) Also went the extra mile and created a load of Wii and GCN launchers with custom icons last year. Great job, and doesn't require any extra power.

Wii U is an excellent console. Would love it if someone managed to get the whole Miiverse back online, like the RiiConnect24 service for Wii.