Aesthetically I prefer the purer Japanese one, but it also looks too similar to the N64 cover art, whereas the Western version feels more “GameCube” to me
@Smithicus in this case, sure, credit where it’s due for Nightdive providing extensive after care. And there’s plenty of other high quality releases that still get minor patches after the fact as niche glitches get discovered that most players never experience.
What bugs some players is when certain games do get rushed out in a broken state, with the “we’ll fix it with patches” mentality. They always get slammed by the critics, so launch sales will go down and you’d hope the devs learn a lesson from that, but apparently not enough.
What specifically bugs me is when looking at reviews of games that have been around long enough to be patched into a hugely improved state (thinking the original Cyberpunk, No Man’s Sky, Yooka-Laylee, GTA Trilogy, Arkham Knight) and the reviews no longer reflect the product on sale. Sure, there are plenty of news articles detailing the patches (which like this one are extensive, dry, and importantly pre-release), but sadly very few reviews of the revised player experience.
But in this specific case, I’m just stirring the pot of other people arguing, I have no real skin in this game.
@DennisReynolds or maybe test the game more fully before release instead of rushing to meet an arbitrary launch date and get slammed by critics for a buggy release that damages the reputation of both game and developer?
@Tourtus a whole range of Vi-O-La designs based on different characters (a la Yoshi’s Woolly World or Mario Maker 1) would be considerably more awesome than a jingle.
Prime 3 had stickers on Samus’ ship from other franchises if there was a save file on the Wii, it’s not completely outside Metroid/Retro’s style either…
How does it run on Switch 1 though? And given both versions are the same price, is there a free upgrade path from Switch 1 to 2, or are they totally separate?
Western would look a little nicer without the HUD/scan effects. I know it’s part of the the Prime series identity, but it’s kinda obscuring some of the nice art. Otherwise I like it.
But Japan gets the vote because the date on the box? My 24th birthday…
@KingMike well that was kinda my point. If they felt they could get away with Patenting the idea of Summoning a monster to fight on your behalf, despite decades of games predating Pokémon, then trying to Patent the idea of replicating 2 Screens on 1 despite dozens of other prior games doing exactly that, seems almost as dubious
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but couldn’t this patent covering “screen within a screen” be a blocker for third party ports, like the Castlevania Dominus and Mega Man ZX Collections, etc?
Played the 3D All-Stars version of Galaxy 1 earlier this year, followed soon after by the OG Galaxy 2. I shouldn’t have been surprised by the backwards graphical downgrade, but I was. Still an incredibly fun game, but really made me wish I had SMG2 on the Switch, for the extra polish and being able to play on the go. Wish granted.
While I’m in no rush to replay Galaxy 2 again right now, I’m happy to add it to the backlog for a rainy day.
Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS also did the same planet-hopping series of levels as Prime 3. In both cases each world feels more like a tunnel to run down, blast a boss/grab a key, then leg it back to Samus’ ship. 3 did a better job of making the areas worth exploring, and gave some cool set pieces along the way, but didn’t feel like a “proper” interconnected Metroid maze world, which loops around itself.
One more vote for “none of the above and not Silksong either”.
I hope that it’s great for everyone who’s waited this long for it, but this site acting like it’s the Second Coming is getting kinda tiresome and is putting me off Silksong entirely.
No mention of all the Smash Directs proudly proclaiming “Smash Bros x {Franchise of the Week}”? I think those were meant to be pronounced as “by” or “loves”…
@Pillowpants that was my experience with the original too. I think the multiplayer has a lot of replayability, but playing solo it quickly got repetitive, and the hundreds of achievements didn’t hook me.
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Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Mario Power Tennis (GameCube)
Aesthetically I prefer the purer Japanese one, but it also looks too similar to the N64 cover art, whereas the Western version feels more “GameCube” to me
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (10th January)
This week I will be mostly playing
Ripening Tingle’s Balloon Trip of Love
Mario Party Jamboree
Layton Brothers: Mystery Room
Re: Turok 2 Gets Another Update On Switch, Here Are The Patch Notes
@DennisReynolds Metacritic scores it 60 or “average” on Switch. It did better on Xbox One and PC. And even better on N64.
Biggest complaint was the multiplayer missing on Switch, which was later fixed by a couple of patches…
Re: Turok 2 Gets Another Update On Switch, Here Are The Patch Notes
@Smithicus in this case, sure, credit where it’s due for Nightdive providing extensive after care. And there’s plenty of other high quality releases that still get minor patches after the fact as niche glitches get discovered that most players never experience.
What bugs some players is when certain games do get rushed out in a broken state, with the “we’ll fix it with patches” mentality. They always get slammed by the critics, so launch sales will go down and you’d hope the devs learn a lesson from that, but apparently not enough.
What specifically bugs me is when looking at reviews of games that have been around long enough to be patched into a hugely improved state (thinking the original Cyberpunk, No Man’s Sky, Yooka-Laylee, GTA Trilogy, Arkham Knight) and the reviews no longer reflect the product on sale. Sure, there are plenty of news articles detailing the patches (which like this one are extensive, dry, and importantly pre-release), but sadly very few reviews of the revised player experience.
But in this specific case, I’m just stirring the pot of other people arguing, I have no real skin in this game.
Re: Turok 2 Gets Another Update On Switch, Here Are The Patch Notes
@DennisReynolds or maybe test the game more fully before release instead of rushing to meet an arbitrary launch date and get slammed by critics for a buggy release that damages the reputation of both game and developer?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (3rd January)
This week I will be mostly playing
Mario Party Jamboree
Metroid Prime 4
Ripening Tingle’s Balloon Trip Of Love
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (27th December)
This week I will be mostly playing
Mario Party Jamboree + Jamboree TV
Metroid Prime 4
Magikarp Jump
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (20th December)
This week I will be mostly playing
Metroid Prime 4
Magikarp Jump
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (13th December)
This week I will be mostly unpacking my house move. And when there’s time:
Metroid Prime 4
Magikarp Jump!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th December)
This week I will be mostly playing
Metroid Prime 4
Magikarp Jump
Re: More Switch Games Receive Compatibility Updates For Switch 2
What? You mean that until now the Switch 2 was the one device in the history of the universe that couldn't play Doom?!?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (29th November)
This week I will be mostly playing
Detective Pikachu
Magikarp Jump!
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond: amiibo Unlocks Revealed
@Tourtus a whole range of Vi-O-La designs based on different characters (a la Yoshi’s Woolly World or Mario Maker 1) would be considerably more awesome than a jingle.
Prime 3 had stickers on Samus’ ship from other franchises if there was a save file on the Wii, it’s not completely outside Metroid/Retro’s style either…
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond: amiibo Unlocks Revealed
So relieved that my Ridley and EMMI amiibo finally have something worthwhile to dust them off for
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (22nd November)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokemon Legends Z-A
Magikarp Jump
Re: Surprise! Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Is Available Now On Switch & Switch 2
@ShadLink @Flashlink99 thanks for confirming
Re: Surprise! Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition Is Available Now On Switch & Switch 2
How does it run on Switch 1 though? And given both versions are the same price, is there a free upgrade path from Switch 1 to 2, or are they totally separate?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (15th November)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokémon Legends B-A
Magikarp Jump
Jack Bros
Re: Top 100 Nintendo Games, As Chosen By Nintendo Life & IGN
Wow. Just wow.
The top 25 are all solid bangers, but Mario 64 and Galaxy are way too low in that
Re: Nintendo Today! App Update Adds A New Widget And News Filter
5 apps, including the Parental Controls one
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th November)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokémon Legends D-A
Full Throttle
Re: Nintendo Announces 'My Mario' Yoshi App For Switch And Mobile Devices
But what’s the app called?!?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (1st November)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokémon Legends E-A
Full Throttle Remastered
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat: Legacy Kollection (Switch 2) - A Killer Kompilation, But Online Is A Mess At Launch
@Username_1 nice, thank you
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat: Legacy Kollection (Switch 2) - A Killer Kompilation, But Online Is A Mess At Launch
How’s it compare on Switch 1? I can’t imagine games this old wouldn’t run as well
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment?
I’ll definitely get it, but not right away - it can wait until Xmas
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Western would look a little nicer without the HUD/scan effects. I know it’s part of the the Prime series identity, but it’s kinda obscuring some of the nice art. Otherwise I like it.
But Japan gets the vote because the date on the box? My 24th birthday…
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (25th October)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokémon Legends Z-A
Fire Emblem Heroes
Speedthru
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Patent Supposedly Points To Return Of DS Games
@KingMike well that was kinda my point. If they felt they could get away with Patenting the idea of Summoning a monster to fight on your behalf, despite decades of games predating Pokémon, then trying to Patent the idea of replicating 2 Screens on 1 despite dozens of other prior games doing exactly that, seems almost as dubious
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Patent Supposedly Points To Return Of DS Games
@DM7Dust fair enough, good answer
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Patent Supposedly Points To Return Of DS Games
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but couldn’t this patent covering “screen within a screen” be a blocker for third party ports, like the Castlevania Dominus and Mega Man ZX Collections, etc?
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (18th October)
This week I will be mostly playing
Pokémon Legends Z-A
WarioWare DIY
Fire Emblem Heroes
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (11th October)
This week I will be mostly playing
Shining Force: Sword of Hajya
Fire Emblem Shadows
Street Fighter 2’ Champion Edition
Re: Broken Sword Continues To Reforge With 'The Smoking Mirror' On Switch
Literally in the middle of playing the Remastered version on my phone now. Knew I shoulda waited
Re: Poll: So, Did You Get Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 For Switch?
Played the 3D All-Stars version of Galaxy 1 earlier this year, followed soon after by the OG Galaxy 2. I shouldn’t have been surprised by the backwards graphical downgrade, but I was. Still an incredibly fun game, but really made me wish I had SMG2 on the Switch, for the extra polish and being able to play on the go. Wish granted.
While I’m in no rush to replay Galaxy 2 again right now, I’m happy to add it to the backlog for a rainy day.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (4th October)
This week I will be mostly playing
Shining Force: Sword of Hajya
Broken Sword 2
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (27th September)
This week I will be mostly playing
DLC Bananza
Fire Emblem Shadows
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (20th September)
This week I will be mostly playing
Street Fighter Alpha 3
DK Bananza DLC
Fire Emblem Heroes
3D Tetris
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Reminds Me Of Gears 5, And It's Making Me Nervous
Metroid Prime Hunters on the DS also did the same planet-hopping series of levels as Prime 3. In both cases each world feels more like a tunnel to run down, blast a boss/grab a key, then leg it back to Samus’ ship. 3 did a better job of making the areas worth exploring, and gave some cool set pieces along the way, but didn’t feel like a “proper” interconnected Metroid maze world, which loops around itself.
This ain’t new, and I ain’t loving it.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (13th September)
This week I will be mostly playing
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Broken Sword Reforged
Tears of the Kingdom
Re: ICYMI: If You Want To Play Virtual Boy Classics, You'll Need To Buy One Of Nintendo's Accessories
Will the “old” Labo VR headset work just as well though?
Re: Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 Prices Are Live, And It's Sticker Shock Time
I’m sure I paid £35 for Galaxy 2 on the Wii, and that included a free t-shirt
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (6th September)
This week I will be mostly playing
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Broken Sword Reforged
Re: Round Up: Pour One Out For These 6 Brave Games Launching On 'Silksong Day'
One more vote for “none of the above and not Silksong either”.
I hope that it’s great for everyone who’s waited this long for it, but this site acting like it’s the Second Coming is getting kinda tiresome and is putting me off Silksong entirely.
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics' Devs Had To Lean On Fans To Recover Original Source Code
Article reads as if FF Tactics: War of the Lions for PSP isn’t a thing…
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (30th August)
This week I will be mostly playing
Kirby’s Star-Crossed World
Pikmin Bloom
Fire Emblem Heroes
Broken Sword Reforged
Re: Opinion: We Need To Talk About X Games
@PtM Ah, got it.
In unrelated news, my kids are really enjoying Animal x New Horizons.
Re: Opinion: We Need To Talk About X Games
No mention of all the Smash Directs proudly proclaiming “Smash Bros x {Franchise of the Week}”? I think those were meant to be pronounced as “by” or “loves”…
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (23rd August)
This week I will be mostly playing
DK Bananza (last 20 Banandium gems)
Pikmin Bloom
Fire Emblem Heroes
Re: Preview: Sakurai's Kirby Air Riders Is A Kaleidoscopic Adrenaline Rush
@Pillowpants that was my experience with the original too. I think the multiplayer has a lot of replayability, but playing solo it quickly got repetitive, and the hundreds of achievements didn’t hook me.