@Zufolobelisk Your first post expressed incredulity at the idea and now you’re telling me that it’s not uncommon. I mean, seriously, what are you going on about?
I have a decent Switch 1 backlog so I won’t be getting a Switch 2 until there are games I really want to play that are exclusive to the console. So far I’m not impressed with the selection. Probably the only the thing that would interest me is a good Zelda.
I dunno. I just think companies shouldn’t have control over their products after they’re in customer hands. I don’t care what they’re doing to the Switch 2 or why. Nintendo shouldn’t be able to control you like this.
@BynoShadow What shame. Someone using an anti-racist position to justify corporate surveillance.
You don't need a reason to value your privacy. You can simply not want to share private information with anyone. Why don't I want Nintendo to record my image and conversations? Because I don't want to. That's all anyone ever needs to know. It's none of anyone's business. Period.
That's all you need to know, but if you want another reason, some governments, for example, the United States of America and other totalitarians, target people for their speech and identity. Some governments, for example, the United States of America, disappear people they don't like without due process and send them concentration camps.
Pricing based on value is a tricky proposition as people have a difference concept of value. I'm not sure if Nintendo actually means this or if it's just what they're saying to justify price increases, but it does invite people (me anyway) to consider what is value for my money.
TOTK cost more than BOTW, but I got better value out of BOTW. I bought my Switch in order to play BOTW, so the value of that game to me was $400-$500. Obviously, it had the added benefit of gaining the console I could use to play more games. If BOTW was $500 alone, I probably wouldn't have bought it, but still. NSMBU Deluxe and MK8 were both full priced games ($60). MK8 was worth it, but NSMBU Deluxe was not. Of course, this was before the "pricing based on value" regime was formally introduced.
For me, there aren't any games worth playing on the Switch 2 yet so it's not worth the price. And since prices are higher, and I've been burned before, I might be more cautious about buying a console and future higher priced games.
It's as simple as that. People are trying to ascribe a moralistic approach to this, but Nintendo has literally said value = price. They're asking us to consider the value and it looks to be coming up short to me.
Although this contextualizes things to some extent, it does leave out a lot of other context, as many have pointed out. There are lies, damned lies and statistics. And unfortunately, people will use this to shut down complaints about the Switch 2 price.
But the real point is that, while interesting, none of this matters. How much can we afford today in 2025 with wages, employment and inflation in food, housing, gas etc?
I think the Switch 1 was a good value for the price. I could play Nintendo games but was severely limited in quality third party games. It was a compromise I was willing to make because I like MK and Zelda.
The Switch 2, however is more expensive, as are the games. It will be able to play better third party games, but do I care? Can I get a PC or another console to play those games for a similar price? The trade off is I couldn't play Nintendo games, which to be honest is becoming less attractive year by year.
Donkey Kong Bananza is the same price as Tears of the Kingdom? And they price based on player's experience and value. So Donkey Kong is going to be as good as TOTK? Mario Kart World even more so?
I think some of the arguments in favour of the price hike are reasonable. Yes, there's been inflation. There's the rising cost of making games. Nintendo is a corporation, not your friend. They want to make money.
This is reasonable. It's also reasonable to say that I'm not going to buy it. I'm a little bitter and disappointed, but I'm not buying it because I'm against the concept of raising prices. I'm not buying it because I don't want to pay that much.
Mario Kart World looks good. Otherwise, not a single game or feature that seems at all interesting to me plus everything is overpriced. You even have to pay for them to tell you how to use it. FFS.
What a scam.
A good Zelda game is about the only thing that would get me to buy it, honestly. I play mostly indie and retro games so I'll stick to PC. See you all in a few years, lol.
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Re: The Live-Action Legend Of Zelda Movie Has Been Delayed, But Not By Much
Is it normal to set release dates this far in advance? Give yourself some leeway. Just say Spring 2027.
Re: Review: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour - Surprising, Delightful, And You Know Where It Belongs
I'll wait for the Switch 3 port.
Re: Poll: Switch 2 Battery Reportedly Lasting Under Two Hours With Mario Kart - How Is Yours Holding Up?
I think Nintendo calls it "value." Switch 2's battery life is value.
Re: Review: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition (Switch 2) - A Superb Port Of An Incredible RPG
This game was disastrously unready when it came out and now they've managed to turn it around and it's getting praise. This is why I wait.
Re: Video: The First Full Switch 2 Hardware Teardown Is Here
@Zufolobelisk
Your first post expressed incredulity at the idea and now you’re telling me that it’s not uncommon. I mean, seriously, what are you going on about?
Re: Video: The First Full Switch 2 Hardware Teardown Is Here
@Zufolobelisk
“Do you really think the first thing some people are going to do with it when they buy it, is disassemble it?”
Who’s thinking that?
Re: Site News: We've Got A Switch 2
Can I come over? I'll bring snacks.
Re: Feature: Farewell, Nintendo Switch - It's Finally Time To Bid Our Old Friend 'Adieu'
I have a decent Switch 1 backlog so I won’t be getting a Switch 2 until there are games I really want to play that are exclusive to the console. So far I’m not impressed with the selection. Probably the only the thing that would interest me is a good Zelda.
Re: Now Switch 2 Setup Walkthrough Videos Are Popping Up Online
Oh damn, this guy must have just done $14.5 million in damages to Nintendo.
Re: Switch 2 Units Are Allegedly Out In The Wild, But You Might Need An Update To Play Games
I dunno. I just think companies shouldn’t have control over their products after they’re in customer hands. I don’t care what they’re doing to the Switch 2 or why. Nintendo shouldn’t be able to control you like this.
Re: Embracer Group Renames Its Lord Of The Rings-Themed Gaming Division
Pretty good name but Embracer should be cast into the fire.
Re: "This Is It!" - Nintendo On Why It Added 'Cow' Into Mario Kart World
Related Articles should have linked to Kate Gray's Best Cow article.
https://www.nintendolife.com/features/back-page-the-best-cows-on-the-nintendo-switch
Re: Fortnite Devs Hit With Unfair Labour Practice Filing Following AI Darth Vader Fiasco
Another reason why people are against SAG-AFTRA is that a lot of people are corporate boot-lickers.
Re: Fortnite Devs Hit With Unfair Labour Practice Filing Following AI Darth Vader Fiasco
Wow, a lot of people really don't read the articles before commenting, huh? They aren't suing on behalf of James Earl Jones.
Re: Fortnite Turns To The Dark Side With New AI-Generated Darth Vader Chats
Sure, why not necromancy?
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Final Tech Specs Have Been Confirmed
Spyware really does bog things down.
Re: Nintendo Says AI-Generated Images "Were Not Used" In Mario Kart World
@StewdaMegaManNerd Play as Green Mario!
Re: Nintendo Says AI-Generated Images "Were Not Used" In Mario Kart World
If you want better quality billboards in your Mario Kart, you're gonna have to buy the $90 version.
Re: Nintendo Updates Its User Agreement To Crack Down On Emulation
"Under no circumstances are you to own any Nintendo products. They is ours forever and you use them only with our permission."
Re: Another Switch 2 "Code-In-Box" Physical Release Appears Online
@Chimichanga Is your argument that people shouldn't complain about the lack of physical gaes because digital games are popular?
Re: Yuji Horii Acknowledges Chrono Trigger Remake Requests, Says He's Starting To Contemplate It
This is starting to get tedious.
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
@BynoShadow Oh no, certainly never a game chat app.
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
@BynoShadow What shame. Someone using an anti-racist position to justify corporate surveillance.
You don't need a reason to value your privacy. You can simply not want to share private information with anyone. Why don't I want Nintendo to record my image and conversations? Because I don't want to. That's all anyone ever needs to know. It's none of anyone's business. Period.
That's all you need to know, but if you want another reason, some governments, for example, the United States of America and other totalitarians, target people for their speech and identity. Some governments, for example, the United States of America, disappear people they don't like without due process and send them concentration camps.
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
The acquiescence in this thread is sad.
"This is totally fine. Other companies grossly violate your privacy so it's absolutely fine."
Re: Switch Users Are Getting Error Codes After Updating To Version 20.0.0
Nintendo bricking our Switches just in time for the Switch 2.
Re: Random: Hideki Kamiya Joins Masahiro Sakurai In Securing A Switch 2
@Zufolobelisk He's blowing it all on sunglasses and Switches.
Re: Random: Hideki Kamiya Joins Masahiro Sakurai In Securing A Switch 2
Dude's gonna have to sell his sunglasses collection to pay for it.
Re: Limited Run's Atlus Switch 2 Collector's Edition Is A 'Game-Key Card' Release
What's the point of these things? It's borderline garbage. I'd rather buy digital.
Re: Poll: After One Month, How Often Are You Actually Using 'Nintendo Today'?
This is the first I ever heard of it.
Re: Mailbox: Switch 2 Price Drops, Remake Replacements, Pokémon Acquisitions - Nintendo Life Letters
Pricing based on value is a tricky proposition as people have a difference concept of value. I'm not sure if Nintendo actually means this or if it's just what they're saying to justify price increases, but it does invite people (me anyway) to consider what is value for my money.
TOTK cost more than BOTW, but I got better value out of BOTW. I bought my Switch in order to play BOTW, so the value of that game to me was $400-$500. Obviously, it had the added benefit of gaining the console I could use to play more games. If BOTW was $500 alone, I probably wouldn't have bought it, but still. NSMBU Deluxe and MK8 were both full priced games ($60). MK8 was worth it, but NSMBU Deluxe was not. Of course, this was before the "pricing based on value" regime was formally introduced.
For me, there aren't any games worth playing on the Switch 2 yet so it's not worth the price. And since prices are higher, and I've been burned before, I might be more cautious about buying a console and future higher priced games.
It's as simple as that. People are trying to ascribe a moralistic approach to this, but Nintendo has literally said value = price. They're asking us to consider the value and it looks to be coming up short to me.
Re: Talking Point: How Does Switch 2's Launch Price Compare To Past Nintendo Systems?
Although this contextualizes things to some extent, it does leave out a lot of other context, as many have pointed out. There are lies, damned lies and statistics. And unfortunately, people will use this to shut down complaints about the Switch 2 price.
But the real point is that, while interesting, none of this matters. How much can we afford today in 2025 with wages, employment and inflation in food, housing, gas etc?
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
I think the Switch 1 was a good value for the price. I could play Nintendo games but was severely limited in quality third party games. It was a compromise I was willing to make because I like MK and Zelda.
The Switch 2, however is more expensive, as are the games. It will be able to play better third party games, but do I care? Can I get a PC or another console to play those games for a similar price? The trade off is I couldn't play Nintendo games, which to be honest is becoming less attractive year by year.
Re: Nintendo Says "Nothing Bad" Will Happen If You Press Switch 2's C Button Without A NSO Sub
he said cackling madly
Re: Nintendo Comments On Mario Kart World's Controversial Price
Donkey Kong Bananza is the same price as Tears of the Kingdom? And they price based on player's experience and value. So Donkey Kong is going to be as good as TOTK? Mario Kart World even more so?
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Wind Waker Is On Switch 2 - Do You Still Want A WW:HD Port?
I'd buy it but they won't make one, so I'm going to emulate it.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
I think some of the arguments in favour of the price hike are reasonable. Yes, there's been inflation. There's the rising cost of making games. Nintendo is a corporation, not your friend. They want to make money.
This is reasonable. It's also reasonable to say that I'm not going to buy it. I'm a little bitter and disappointed, but I'm not buying it because I'm against the concept of raising prices. I'm not buying it because I don't want to pay that much.
Re: Civilization VII Dev Likens Game's Switch 2 Graphical Performance To "Mid-Tier PC"
How much is a mid-tier PC then? Maybe I'll get one of those.
Re: Community: Which Switch 2 Games Are You Wishlisting?
I like Mario Kart but I probably won't get a Switch 2. It's too expensive and Nintendo never lowers their prices.
Re: PSA: Switch Online Includes Switch 2 Edition Upgrade Pack Access At "No Additional Cost"
The additional cost is the Switch Online + Expansion Pack.
Re: GameCube Games Confirmed For Nintendo Switch Online On Switch 2
I guess we'll never get that Wind Waker port. Piracy it is, then.
Re: Switch 2 Games Cost A Bit More Than You're Probably Expecting
golly gee, I thought the TOTK price was a one time thing.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
Mario Kart World looks good. Otherwise, not a single game or feature that seems at all interesting to me plus everything is overpriced. You even have to pay for them to tell you how to use it. FFS.
What a scam.
A good Zelda game is about the only thing that would get me to buy it, honestly. I play mostly indie and retro games so I'll stick to PC. See you all in a few years, lol.
Re: Nintendo Expects You To Pay For Its Switch 2 "Welcome Tour" User Guide
Unbelievable. The enshittification for Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Priced At $449.99 For The Base Console
Oof, I'm going to wait for a must have game then.
Re: Rumour: Zelda Live-Action Movie Will Reportedly Be Part Of A "Trilogy"
A trilogy but that last movie is broken into two 3 hour parts.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With Four More Titles
This better be a gateway to Aerobiz.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo May Have Already Shipped A Boatload Of Switch 2 Units To North America
Pinches of salt are one thing, but I'm distressed by the phrase "a fistful of salt." That's gonna be really bad for your health.
My attitude towards console rumours is to just take it easy and chill. Take this news with a fistful of valium.
Re: Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters Land New Update As Series Passes 200 Million Sales
I don't know what those mini-map updates mean exactly, but I couldn't find a way to turn it off. Drove me nuts. I hope this fixes that.
Also, that float status update. Wow.
Re: Japanese Charts: Suikoden's Admirable Debut Isn't Nearly Enough To Topple Monster Hunter
@Serpenterror I like that too! That's why I tried the demo. Maybe I should try it again.
Re: Japanese Charts: Suikoden's Admirable Debut Isn't Nearly Enough To Topple Monster Hunter
Wow, I didn't know Monster Hunter was such a huge console seller.
I played a demo on Switch once, didn't like it, and now every time I see it I ignore it.