Think I will skip this one and dq 3 remake as well. Ever since key cards have become a thing I am no longer interested in owning every game I take a mild interest in.
Switch 2 is mostly a first party machine for me. As a collector I tend to be a bit lenient when it comes to purchases on switch 1. Since we are looking at key cards, only few exceptions will be made, like elden ring. Yesterday I played the demo of Wild Hearts. If it was physical, maybe a purchase. Since its not its become an easy skip. Lol
They should definitely give this one a remake. Square Enix isn't doing very well and it's better to invest into something that's proven to be good and comes with a fanbase than create something new and lose hundreds of millions.
They can try to shill it all they want. Key carda are the worst of both worlds. I said it numerous times, key cards should be a cheaper alternative to physical releases but not the only option. That being said I somehow started supporting the idea of key cards cause I will save a lot of money by not buying them.
I play docked anyway so it doesnt bother me at all. But we also need to acknowledge the facts, right? If nintendo has chosen the worst possible option to apparently make more bucks, then they did. Really no need trying to defend this.
@electrolite77 even nintendo will bow down to pressure cause they get 30% off of third party titles. If those sell well nintendo makes even more money.
anyhow, it will be interesting to see how things develope. and as I said already, I will be buying key cards or digital downloads regardless if there is no other option, but on my (price) terms, and if they don't set the prices to my liking, no biggie. 30 eur is still way too much, haha. I was thinking more in terms of 5eur-20eur. come to think of it, I never bought second hand physical copies on switch, that's me, lol, I want to get my stuff brandnew and sealed. But when it comes to key cards, as I already view the product inferior I might as well buy it used. dont even need the box.
@electrolite77 it's up to nintendo to make the cards cheaper then.
don't get me wrong, while I don't like key cards at all, I am not gonna miss out on a game that I wanna play. I will just wait a year or several years until I get the key card or download for dirt cheap. Simply because I don't see the value of going full or even half price on this. So it's up to the industry if they want my full price money or not. And given my backlog (spanning several nintendo generations), I couldn't care less when I get to play a game or frankly even at all, haha
Who knows, maybe some publishers will go cardridge and sell a ton of them, and then companies like sqex will think, hey, maybe we could sell more if we also went that way? just giving ideas
@electrolite77 why would they stop making games? That's ridiculous. They arent gonna go out of business but will seek business models that work. Cardridges is a valid business model. And who knows, maybe nintendo will start selling cheaper cards to them
@EriXz tbh I don't understand why comments like these still keep popping up.
Let me explain: codes in a box were one of to the most undesirable and pointless options for me. If I want digital I can use the e-shop or something, no need to create plastic waste (the box!). The problem was mostly it's either/or. You don't get the option to choose between a code in a box OR. a physical copy.
Whoever complained about codes in boxes did so because they wanted a physical copy. Otherwise there is no point in complaining as a CIB is nothing else than an eshop purchase without the box.
I hope this clarifies!
Key cards are a not a code in a box - its something like a resellable download token. Its a digital copy that you can resell. ITS NOT a physical copy. Comparing key cards to codes in boxes might be a valid POV. But people who are complaining ARE comparing with physical copies. NEVER with codes and/or downloads.
If there were only digital options out there, key cards would be a step up in that you can resell them but also a step down as you need to switch key token every time you wanna play a game.
Compared to physical copies you need to provide storage, tons of storage as almost every 3rd party game will be a key card. Ofc you can just delete games and redownload lateron.
So, bottomline is, people dont consider codes in boxes when looking at key cards but the missing physical option which key cards are replacing.
it's so funny imo. From the moment game key cards have been announced, the VAST majority of comments ALL ACROSS the board, even including a fansite like nintendolife, have been overwhelmingly negative. With a ton of people, me included, saying they will either skip completely skip key cards or wait until they appear in the bargain basment for cheap.
What has been projected has happened!
But I think we will need a bit more time for everyone to realize, it's actually the key cards which are at fault.
Good news is, publishers want money, once the dime has dropped on them they will return to cardridges, sales will improve and everyone be happy
I am not sold on the idea of backwards compatibility hurting sales. I mean people who own a switch 1 with tons of games would still own and be able to play those games even if the s2 wasn't BC.
the extra storage costs related to key cards are just way too enormous imo given how storage heavy some games can be.
I went mostly physical but bought some digital games and own a 128gb card (ik, thats kinda small...) and ended up having to delete some of them in order to download more, lol. The idea of having to buy more storage didn't suit me. The switch 2 is even worse in this regard as you absol;utely NEED to invest in storage to play almost any third party game.
The fact most of these games are ports of older games which can be purchased much cheaper elsewhere doesn't help.
That was predictable. Key cards should have been a cheaper alternative to and not the only 'physical' option.
If there is a game I really wanna play, though, I will cave in and buy a key card. But I am not gonna pay full price, NEVER EVER. Not even at half the price, lol. But I guess publishers don't care about my money, lol.
imo they will miss out on sales. Personally I don't view digital downloads (or key cards for that matter) to be the same value. Compared to what could have been a day one full price purchase I am gonna wait until a serious price drop. And will also limit my purchases, during the switch 1 era I bought a couple of games I was on the fence, such as diofield chronicles, if it was a key or download i would have given it a pass. But that's just me ofc.
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Re: 112 Games You Should Pick Up In Nintendo's Summer Switch eShop Sale (Europe)
The only game(s) I am waiting to be discounted atm are the famicom detective games. Might never happen...
Re: Ori Dev Asks Nintendo Fans If They Want 'No Rest For The Wicked' On Switch 2
That character doesnt look appealing tho
Re: ICYMI: Koei Tecmo Has Released A 'Wild Hearts S' Demo On Switch 2
Wasnt too impressed tbh. If it came on card I might take a closer look but as it is its a skip for me
Re: Review: No Sleep For Kaname Date - From AI: THE SOMNIUM FILES (Switch 2) - Fun Cast, Weak Twists In This Satisfying Spin-Off
Kinda on the fence now. Should I get it now or wait until the price drops a bit. Hmmm....
Re: Square Enix Rules Out Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
Think I will skip this one and dq 3 remake as well. Ever since key cards have become a thing I am no longer interested in owning every game I take a mild interest in.
Re: Nintendo Is Seeking Player Feedback On Game-Key Cards In Japan
@Res462 ikr!
Re: Rumour: Major Third-Party Devs Reportedly Sitting On Multiple Switch 2 Announcements
Switch 2 is mostly a first party machine for me.
As a collector I tend to be a bit lenient when it comes to purchases on switch 1. Since we are looking at key cards, only few exceptions will be made, like elden ring.
Yesterday I played the demo of Wild Hearts. If it was physical, maybe a purchase. Since its not its become an easy skip. Lol
Re: Nintendo Is Seeking Player Feedback On Game-Key Cards In Japan
Hope they will ditch key cards.
Re: Uh-Oh! It Looks Like Donkey Kong Bananza Is Already Out In The Wild
No biggie imo
Re: Donkey Kong Bananza Director Acknowledges Performance Drops: "We Prioritized Fun And Playability"
Will probably get an upgrade on switch 3
Re: Ys X: Proud Nordics Reportedly Includes 120fps Performance Mode On Switch 2
Still can't get past key cards.
Re: Poll: How Are Your Download Speeds On Switch 2?
Not sure about the speed. But the wifi is ass again, cant say if its worse than the switch 1, though, probably on a similar level
Re: Koei Tecmo Releases New Switch 2 Demo For Wild Hearts S
Nice! Gonna be my first real switch 2 game experience. The demo I mean...
Re: Final Fantasy 9's 25th Anniversary Is Here, But There's Nothing On Rumoured Remake
They should definitely give this one a remake. Square Enix isn't doing very well and it's better to invest into something that's proven to be good and comes with a fanbase than create something new and lose hundreds of millions.
Re: "That's Some Real Coward S***" - Hideki Kamiya Discusses The Fallout From The Bayonetta 3 Voiceover Controversy
What a time to be alive!
Re: Round Up: The First Reviews Are In For Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4
Needless to ask, is this a key card? Haha
Re: A New Nintendo Magazine Is Seeking Your Support On Kickstarter Right Now
Comes as a surprise in this day and age. Who knows maybe it will work out for them
Re: Crocs Launching "First-Ever" Collaboration With Animal Crossing, Out Next Month
They look nice,!!!!
Re: Nintendo Highlights Multiple Switch 2 And Switch Games Launching In July 2025
Donkey Kong and Kaname Date for me. Not really sure about Patapon, looks interesting, but idk.
Re: Talking Point: One Month On, How Did Nintendo's Switch 2 Launch Go?
Backwards machine thus far. Would buy yakuza if it wasnt for the high price of key cards
Re: Perfect Dark Voice Actor Calls On Fans To Help Series "Survive"
Think the franchise was dead after the sequel (or prequel).
Re: Poll: How Many Hours Have You Spent In Mario Kart World So Far?
Didnt buy it yet. Based on what I have seen I think Im good with 8 for now
Re: Romero Games Reportedly Shut Down Following Xbox Layoffs
Gonna be harder and harder to sustain game devs. With prices rising people will be buying even less games
Re: Switch 2 Users Are Reporting Instances Of Their Consoles Overheating
Havent played any long sessions yet. Will keep a watchful eye
Re: Cult-Movie-Turned-Metroidvania 'Turbo Kid' Lands August Switch Release
@Freek limited run games will be having a field day soon, haha
Re: Cult-Movie-Turned-Metroidvania 'Turbo Kid' Lands August Switch Release
@NImH not gonna happen
Re: Cult-Movie-Turned-Metroidvania 'Turbo Kid' Lands August Switch Release
Didnt know this movie existed, lol
Re: Microsoft Announces Second Wave Of Layoffs, Over 9,000 Jobs Affected
Not surprised. Microsoft has lost its way after the 360. Lacking focus and direction. Safe to say the lost the console war.
Re: Best Mario Sports Games Of All Time
they should put in more effort. recent releases havent been that great, even based on this list
Re: Furukawa's Defence Of Game-Key Cards Ain't All That Convincing
They can try to shill it all they want. Key carda are the worst of both worlds. I said it numerous times, key cards should be a cheaper alternative to physical releases but not the only option.
That being said I somehow started supporting the idea of key cards cause I will save a lot of money by not buying them.
Re: Nintendo's Ability To Ban Switch 2 Consoles Has Landed It In Hot Water
They definitely went too far with this one.
Re: Elden Ring: Tarnished Edition Release Date Could Be Revealed Soon, As Switch 2 Rating Spotted
Will buy used or on sale one day
Re: Of Course Mario Kart World Is Being Review Bombed
There is a reason for every review bomb and it should be taken seriously
Re: Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag Actor Drops The Biggest Remake Hint Yet
Not gonna add this to my backlog
Re: Feature: Every Switch 2 Launch Game, Ranked
nothing that stands out for me. would have probably bought yakuza if it came on card, will get it one day when its dirt cheap.
Re: Fans Reckon Nintendo Has "Killed" Mario Kart World With Its Latest Update
@sanderev glad youre have fun with it. its like with most stuff, one does like it while the next one may not.
I got my switch 2 today, for now mainly as a backwards machine, haha. Will probably get bananza as my first switch game, and then metroid 4 hopefully.
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Restocks Are Now Available At Multiple Stores In The US
Restocks, lol. Switch 2s seem widely available at least here in Europe. Must be a scalpers nightmare
Re: Fans Reckon Nintendo Has "Killed" Mario Kart World With Its Latest Update
The open world was a bad idea.
Re: "One Of The Slowest Modern LCDs I've Ever Seen" - Digital Foundry's John Linneman On Switch 2's Display
I play docked anyway so it doesnt bother me at all.
But we also need to acknowledge the facts, right?
If nintendo has chosen the worst possible option to apparently make more bucks, then they did. Really no need trying to defend this.
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy Devs Supposedly Hint At Another Nintendo Release
Maybe by the time of its release key cards will have been abandoned, lol
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@electrolite77 even nintendo will bow down to pressure cause they get 30% off of third party titles. If those sell well nintendo makes even more money.
anyhow, it will be interesting to see how things develope. and as I said already, I will be buying key cards or digital downloads regardless if there is no other option, but on my (price) terms, and if they don't set the prices to my liking, no biggie. 30 eur is still way too much, haha. I was thinking more in terms of 5eur-20eur.
come to think of it, I never bought second hand physical copies on switch, that's me, lol, I want to get my stuff brandnew and sealed. But when it comes to key cards, as I already view the product inferior I might as well buy it used. dont even need the box.
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@electrolite77 it's up to nintendo to make the cards cheaper then.
don't get me wrong, while I don't like key cards at all, I am not gonna miss out on a game that I wanna play. I will just wait a year or several years until I get the key card or download for dirt cheap. Simply because I don't see the value of going full or even half price on this. So it's up to the industry if they want my full price money or not. And given my backlog (spanning several nintendo generations), I couldn't care less when I get to play a game or frankly even at all, haha
Who knows, maybe some publishers will go cardridge and sell a ton of them, and then companies like sqex will think, hey, maybe we could sell more if we also went that way? just giving ideas
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@electrolite77 why would they stop making games? That's ridiculous. They arent gonna go out of business but will seek business models that work. Cardridges is a valid business model.
And who knows, maybe nintendo will start selling cheaper cards to them
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@EriXz tbh I don't understand why comments like these still keep popping up.
Let me explain: codes in a box were one of to the most undesirable and pointless options for me. If I want digital I can use the e-shop or something, no need to create plastic waste (the box!).
The problem was mostly it's either/or. You don't get the option to choose between a code in a box OR. a physical copy.
Whoever complained about codes in boxes did so because they wanted a physical copy. Otherwise there is no point in complaining as a CIB is nothing else than an eshop purchase without the box.
I hope this clarifies!
Key cards are a not a code in a box - its something like a resellable download token. Its a digital copy that you can resell. ITS NOT a physical copy.
Comparing key cards to codes in boxes might be a valid POV. But people who are complaining ARE comparing with physical copies. NEVER with codes and/or downloads.
If there were only digital options out there, key cards would be a step up in that you can resell them but also a step down as you need to switch key token every time you wanna play a game.
Compared to physical copies you need to provide storage, tons of storage as almost every 3rd party game will be a key card. Ofc you can just delete games and redownload lateron.
So, bottomline is, people dont consider codes in boxes when looking at key cards but the missing physical option which key cards are replacing.
Got it?
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
it's so funny imo. From the moment game key cards have been announced, the VAST majority of comments ALL ACROSS the board, even including a fansite like nintendolife, have been overwhelmingly negative. With a ton of people, me included, saying they will either skip completely skip key cards or wait until they appear in the bargain basment for cheap.
What has been projected has happened!
But I think we will need a bit more time for everyone to realize, it's actually the key cards which are at fault.
Good news is, publishers want money, once the dime has dropped on them they will return to cardridges, sales will improve and everyone be happy
Re: Former Nintendo Execs Fear We Might Be Waiting A While For A 3D Mario On Switch 2, Thanks To Donkey Kong
that's fine, more time means potentially a better game.
Re: Third-Party Launch Games On Switch 2 Reportedly Sold "Very Low Numbers"
I am not sold on the idea of backwards compatibility hurting sales. I mean people who own a switch 1 with tons of games would still own and be able to play those games even if the s2 wasn't BC.
the extra storage costs related to key cards are just way too enormous imo given how storage heavy some games can be.
I went mostly physical but bought some digital games and own a 128gb card (ik, thats kinda small...) and ended up having to delete some of them in order to download more, lol. The idea of having to buy more storage didn't suit me. The switch 2 is even worse in this regard as you absol;utely NEED to invest in storage to play almost any third party game.
The fact most of these games are ports of older games which can be purchased much cheaper elsewhere doesn't help.
Re: Third-Party Launch Games On Switch 2 Reportedly Sold "Very Low Numbers"
That was predictable. Key cards should have been a cheaper alternative to and not the only 'physical' option.
If there is a game I really wanna play, though, I will cave in and buy a key card. But I am not gonna pay full price, NEVER EVER. Not even at half the price, lol. But I guess publishers don't care about my money, lol.
Re: Publishers Are "Thanking" Nintendo For Game-Key Cards On Switch 2
imo they will miss out on sales. Personally I don't view digital downloads (or key cards for that matter) to be the same value. Compared to what could have been a day one full price purchase I am gonna wait until a serious price drop. And will also limit my purchases, during the switch 1 era I bought a couple of games I was on the fence, such as diofield chronicles, if it was a key or download i would have given it a pass. But that's just me ofc.
Re: Video: "It's Actually...Really Good" - Our Hot 'Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour' Preview Take
was never interested in this regardless wether it's free or not