Rumour: Final Fantasy Devs Supposedly Hint At Another Nintendo Release

Yeah, I don't think a Game Key Card release is going to get the numbers Square is hoping for...

In my opinion, Final Fantasy games are more fit to be played on PlayStation machines than Nintendo machines but the spinoff felt suitable on Nintendo machines.
But, anyway I'm not looking for ff14 and above as I banned both ff15 & 16.
I want the spinoff from GBA, NDS, Wii like FF Tactics Advance, FF Tactics A2, FF Echoes of Time, get remastered or remake on modern consoles, but definitely I prefer getting the PS5 version than Switch 2 version as I already smelled the BS treatment from SquareEnix with Switch 2 version by giving game key card treatment.

Yeah if all they're gonna do is the key card crap might as well do a cloud version. Same damn thing basically. If they wanna do it for real get FF 15 on switch 2. Heck I'd even take FF 13.

I would love to play FF 13, 15, and 16 on Switch 2! I am not at all interested in 14 though...
So that's probably the one we'll get, lol.

@Truegamer79 No not the same, once downloaded a digital game doesn't require internet while a cloud game does, and oftentimes plays like absolute rubbish unless the place you live in ends in the following abbreviations CA , WA, or NY "at least here in the states." This isn't any sort of political statement btw, its just a fact that most places outside of those states have terribly unreliable and spotty internet when compared to other developed countries.

@Truegamer79 I know people are upset over game key cards (I'm not thrilled about them either) but they are absolutely not the same Cloud versions of games on Switch 1. Game key cards can be played offline and function similar to a download only game.

@Truegamer79 How are game key-cards the same as a cloud version? For playing, the cloud version requires a constant internet connection and a key card only requires Internet for the download off the cartridge. Then you can even resell the cartridge... You can't resell a cloud version.

I would love to see a new game to the Crystal Chronicles Series. Not a lazy port of the GC game but an actual new game. One that actually has good multiplayer and gameplay. If only they left the full caravan system in that remake...

@Angelic_Lapras_King I don't think using game key cards hurts sells numbers at all. It's very similar to what PS5 games do with having some of the game on the Blu-ray and then needing to download an update. Nintendo is just getting with the times

@Sambuc
Well really i meant because the games are reliant on an internet connection no matter if it's key card or cloud. You can't even download the key card games in the first place to play them without it.

I’m hoping for 16 since I haven’t played it yet. Not that interested in 15. And the 1 remake doesn’t interest me too much

If they ever do release 14 it's probably gonna be a massive install; doesn't make much sense to have a cartridge release for an online-only game with periodic gigantic patches. Might skip physical including game key cards altogether, probably for the best.

Yes bring them all. Big fan of this genre.

@Sambuc I think a lot of Switch 1 owners who bought physical choose physical because of things like game preservation, if the servers shut down, etc... I think that audience is a key demographic for Switch 2 as well. Having a Game Key Card release loses that appeal for those physical collectors. There was a reason to preorder or purchase those fully on cart games beyond just playing the game, but that reason doesn't exist anymore. I think iit s a big reason why sales are low for anything but Mario Kart World and Cyberpunk. Personally speaking, I would have bought at least 3 other titles for S2 if they had been fully on cart.
You are correct in that PS5 and XBox games have been partial downloads for a while now, but I think it's just a very different audience.

I think it’s only a matter of time, honestly.

Switch 2 will become a platform of similar importance as the PS5 for SE, because of the importance of Japan for them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if FF17 is targeting Switch 2 as its main target platform.

Bring it, and bring it physical. I would buy every FF game they port to switch2 physical.

I’m happy for anyone waiting for this.
But FF16 was just “follow the marker and keep pressing attack”.
15 was bad but at least there was a challenge.

Played the demo on PS5. Was really looking forward to a return to a medieval/fantasy setting. I just could not get past the combat. FFVII: REMAKE was a great real-time/turn-based combo. This just felt like a lackluster action game to me. Maybe I will try it again.

I will buy the Switch and Steam versions thank you. I will not even bother with the disc and game key card versions.

and Nintendo "fans" won't show up and buy any of their games because Nintendo fans don't buy third party games

got it on ps5 at launch an just could not finish that game for the life of me. was bored out of my mind.

since it released on xbox, been trying to finish it there. holding a little better since i know what i was getting into but man. absolutely no way i'm going to even consider it for another platform. its just...i hope SE isn't expecting much. this one just isn't it. its combat just is far too...much of nothing.

The Switch 2 mouse controls would be interesting for FFXIV. I’ve always preferred controller over M&KB, but the mix of both could really be something.

I quite enjoyed it on the PS5. Was the first FF game I've played since 13. All the mixed opinions made me want to give it a go and I came away impressed and entertained.

Don't know that I'd double dip on a Switch 2 version, but if I hadn't played it yet I would be interested for sure.

If they want to conquer Nintendo fans, they need to appreciate the fans and give them what they want. They conquered the SNES pretty much. It's doable. But we love games to the point of wanting to hold them, not use them and have nothing to show for it.
(And yes I get it, I'm old school and the Switch is so popular it's going to have more nodern mainstream players who don't seem to think like that. But they will never match Nintendo on their own system again until they start following their example of physical media.)
It's easy for a CEO to think in terms of cost cutting rather than maximising sales. Diffcult decisions my a$$. They need firing.

Wow everyone is negative!

I'm a Ninty only guy and a huuuuuuuge FF fan. The thought of getting FF 13, 15 and 16 and maybe games like Type zero and the other FF7 games.... I'm over the moon happy to finally get this chance!

An actual non-cloud Kingdom Hearts 3 would be lovely too! 🤔😂😂

Final Fantasy 16 isn't a bad game I honestly really liked it when I played it on PS5. It does have some major flaws though since It's not an RPG and I do think the game tried to be a bit too edgy at times. The lack of playable party members was a bad decision as well.

On a side note I'm loving how Square Enix has supported Nintendo consoles the last few years.

@KBuckley27 Nonsense. Day and date 3rd party games will sell.

Nintendo now dominates the Japanese market. Squaresoft knows it makes financial sense to bring their catalogue to Switch 2. There is no excuses from any third party company’s now. Switch 2 is powerful and can handle these games.

I would be very happy to play Final Fantasy 16 on my Switch 2 and it would be a day 1 purchase. I already own the Final Fantasy 7 remake and have completed it on the PS4 but to show love to Squaresoft for bringing the whole trilogy to Switch. I will pre order it for my Switch 2.

Give us XIII already!

While it'll be interesting to see how this game runs on Switch 2- I personally don't think I'll double-dip. It's probably one of the most disappointing Final Fantasy games I've ever played.

The Xbox version is a full price, rushed and inferior port of an old game with a pretty bad reputation and it doesn’t even have a physical release. Most Xbox players who were genuinely interested in playing it had already found other ways to do so, especially since the developers kept implying it would never come to Xbox or the Switch 2. So honestly, the poor sales aren’t even surprising.

That said, it would definitely sell better on Switch 2 for several reasons… including the fact that we’re absolutely starving for real Switch 2 games right now haha…

So long as it's.. you know.. not on one of those things, I'll happily buy it.

@Anti-Matter omg what kind of opinion is this? It’s like saying some genres are not fit for certain TV’s lol. Final Fantasy started on Nintendo long before PlayStation, and for those who like the genre I don’t see a reason not having it on Switch!

@Sindayl Tbf the sales estimates for FF16 on Xbox were provided by Alinea Analytics, who admitted on Twitter that they used the number of reviews on the Xbox store in order to determine how well the game sold on Xbox. In other words, Alinea's sales estimates for FF16 on Xbox aren't very reliable.

I don't think FF16 is selling insanely well on Xbox or anything, but it is in the #11 spot on the best-selling US Xbox games right now.

But, you're right, Square Enix shouldn't expect the game to sell like hotcakes on Xbox after they kept implying it would never come to other platforms and after they released an unoptimized port

@Questionable_Duck I’ve read about this. Your analyse is correct!

@Anti-Matter then go for NDS. Why not allow them coming on switch 2 !?

It would be cool (though diminished by the absence of a real physical version) but hopefully a FF13 trilogy remaster for Switch 1 happens first. Releasing a game for Switch 1 seems the only way to guarantee a real physical version for Nintendo hardware nowadays so it would be best if games that could run on Switch 1 got Switch 1 versions before 3rd parties stopped supporting Switch 1.

@Shade_Koopa more like the Wii of GCN one?

I thought the game cube one was really terrible.

@Shmoo mouse controls wouldn’t be that great in ff14. There are 2 control schemes, mouse and keyboard and controller.

The mouse and keyboard one really only uses the mouse for camera control and some UI things. You can click on your icons on screen but that is a very very suboptimal way of actually playing and using the numbers on your keyboard +modifiers for different rows is the way pretty much everyone plays (who use M+K of course)

Personally I use the controller set up which is amazing. It was the first MMO I’ve played with actual decent out of the box controller support. The mouse mode would be slightly useful in this mode, using a mouse to drag and drop stuff onto your task bars during initial set up or reorganising them is very useful but you don’t do that a lot. I have 4500 hours in the game almost all of it played with a controller (I also have a similar number of hours in wow using a similar M+K setup). I think the mouse mode would be a nice to have thing like the touchpad on the dualshock 4/dualsense which does the same thing for PlayStation.

Still not sure if I’d get ff14 on switch. I have it installed on my steam deck as well and I tend to just play on my big pc. Would be nice on hot summer days like this to avoid heating my room up though.

They needn't bother bringing FFXVI. Just spend the time working on the VII Remakes. Seriously.

I'd consider it since it was apparently decent and better than XV, which was pretty good but dragged a bit.

@Yosher

Considering FFXVI's file size is around 170GB on Steam, I wouldn't really get your hopes up about Square being able to fit it on a 64GB Switch 2 card.

@Truegamer79

That being said, I'd much rather FFXVI on a Game-Key Card than a cloud version, since at least then, you only need internet to download the game & maybe some patches if needed, & then you can play it offline without worry (unless there's some extra DRM for whatever reason, though from what I can tell, that's usually not the case on Switch/2).

I would also prefer not needing the internet at all, but games are pretty big file size right now, and/or apparently devs don't really want to deal with paying for the costs to produce a lot of carts for sale, so it's ether this or most of the 3rd party stuff being like codes in the box or whatever.

More GKC or lukewarm 15 year old releases.

Unless its Yoshi-P or a NDS Game, keep it

@DM7Dust Even fitting in part would help.
So sick of unloading all storage to customers "It's ,your problem now kthxbye"

@Zealv2 They are on PS and PC already, FFVII probably almost done.
They have all assets, source code and a Switch2 Dev Kit.

If that is still too much for them, they should sell their IPs to competent devs

Port 14 please, I wouldn't mind selling my Steam Deck.

Where's my FF9 remake?

@Anti-Matter In my opinion, Final Fantasy games are more fit to be played on PlayStation machines than Nintendo machines but the spinoff felt suitable on Nintendo machines.

Like other comments you clearly have dislike for Nintendo and Switch 2. It's as you said your opinion and that doesn't move industry publishers-that kinda mindset "of only Playstaton" is why any Devs team you consult would be at loosing end of game publishing-take XBox going all platforms including Switch 2, you have to ask do they see something you don't see. Putting on Switch 2 and be on the go is in their best interests of bottom line. Of which it can run SF6 and CP2077 Ult just as good as PS5 version or because it can do that a Switch 2 doesn't fit your narrative of a "under powered console".

Remake of all FF line to Switch 2 would be in SQX best interests and bottom line as now they get the Nintendo fanbase to come aboard to buy more Switch 2 and give them more money. Whom would want to pass this opportunity up?

More Final Fantasy? Bag that. Give us the Enix Quintet collection and Secret of Evermore port already. I'd rather have the red headed stepchild Seiken Densetsu collection like Heroes/Children/Dawn of Mana before yet another FF port particularly any of the braindead pretty hallway games.

Instead of FFXVI, I'm itching for the new Mana game on Switch 2, as well as Kingdom Hearts, Nier, Octopath III, and a Metaphor x FF crossover 😉

Also after the success of Fantasy Life I, Square Enix needs to get on developing a Final Fantasy Life spinoff! The combat could look and play like Crystal Chronicles, with all the fun life sim mechanics that we love from Fantasy Life and Rune Factory. Also it would be lovely with a persistent matchmaking feature to seamlessly meet new adventurers out in the overworld!

@nin10doom Yep. While I don't have the switch 2 yet and I already have Cyberpunk on PC (and to some extent steam deck). I may pick it up also just to have it physical as well as Mario Kart world. The zelda titles are expection as I have those physical already on the switch one and getting the switch 2 update is a bit different then having to rebuy them physical with the switch 2 version.

@Anti-Matter
What's Echoes of Time?

Also, how many of those FF Tactics games are unique?

@Mariotag
This is Echoes of Time, Wii and NDS version.


Both of them are same games and Wii version utilizing dual screen appeared on single screen which you can zoom in the screen you want to watch.

There are other FF Tactics on Nintendo machines
FF Tactics Advance and FF Tactics A2.
Both of them have similar gameplay as original FF Tactics but with new additional rule : Restriction which mean you're not allowed to do specific command or condition such as using specific magics or items during battle, otherwise you will get penalty or even Game Over.

The game will look and run like ass on Switch 2. It looks and performs pretty rough on PS5 and SX so Switch 2 has no chance.

I'm good, rather have something else. Focus on the FF7 Remake series or maybe FFIX Remake. XVI was what I'd call unfortunate. Great graphics, great acting, decent gameplay and that's about it. Had high hopes for it and with all the investment in development I guess it's destined to be ported to everything.

@LUIGITORNADO Which Wii version are you referring to? The single player RPG or the multiplayer one that was a port of the DS that tried to do 2 screens at once?

The GC version was fine for what it was. The remastered would have been better if they JUST kept the group caravan system. That would have allowed for group sharing of save files and have everyone be part of the Moogle mail system.

Well it'll be nice to have something announced for the Switch 2. So far we've got no Outer Worlds 2, Oblivion Remaster, Avowed, Expedition 33, Elder scrolls 6, monster hunter, Fallout etc

Dont leave us hanging with rumors. Its time to have the full reveals.

I thoroughly enjoyed Final Fantasy 16. It didn't deserve all the hate it got.
Especially compared to Final Fantasy 15, which was simply a slow boring slog fest.

Final Fantasy 7 remake is simply a master piece and I played the first part two times already.

I'm way more interested in that than the FFVII remake. I guess in a couple years they'll remake FFXVI and massacre its story so I'd rather play the original thanks.

Plus I heard someone say it's got FFCC elements in it the same way FFXIV was semi-Ivalice in a lot of ways. So yeah I want me some Crystal Bearers please!

@Nalverus
All flash, no substance is what YoshiP's team (Creative Studio III) is really good at.

Xbox people usually wait for their games to go on Game Pass, or if they go on sale for the right price. The game is definitely priced too high considering you can get a physical copy on PS5 for almost half the price.

@Truegamer79 Ok, let's take a step back. While I am in no way a fan of Game Key Cards, they are still infinitely better than a cloud version of a game.

As a long term FF fan, FF16 and FF7 remake is what made me lost all my faith in this series.

The story of FF16 is fine at the first half (although extremely similar with a TV series), second half ha some interesting lore but feels unfinished. Ending is terrible.

As for gameplay, I dont mind action RPG but there's no rewards on how I perform in the game. I can have a perfect combo with no damage but there's no benefit of it. In the end I just spam whatever I have to quickly go through the story, which also has a huge pacing issue on the second half.

It's the FF game that I sold after I finished it. I hate the story of FF7R (again, HUGE pacing issue) but at least the gameplay is fine.

Maybe by the time of its release key cards will have been abandoned, lol

I am really hopping to make the switch 2 my primary way to play games so really hope more companies and more games want to come to it.

Would even like games that have been out else where to be put on but please just price them right and not full price.

SquareEnix is desperately in need of improved sales numbers for quite some time now. They've already acknowledged that exclusivity with Sony isn't the lucrative cash cow that it used to be. As such, I think the odds of FF16 coming to Switch 2 are extremely high - and if the console ends up selling really well, I think there's even a chance that FF17 will come to the platform - possibly with Switch 2 being the target console and the PS5/PS6 port being higher fidelity port of it.

Depends on how it runs. Having a choice between S2 or Xbox would be good. I'd rather they focused on getting the FF7 Remake games running well.

And Kingdom Hearts. Please give us the whole series.

This thread of comments has been absolutely WILD to read.

Anyway, I love FFXVI, and I would absolutely love to see it on Switch 2. I imagine it'd be locked to 30 FPS, but that's fine just as long as it's consistent. Long live Clive & Torgal

@Anti-Matter
Oh neat! I'd heard of a Crystal Chronicles on Wii, but can't recall the name.

Also, are the other FF Tactics games sequels? Or are they the same story as OG Tactics and WotL?

@Mariotag
FF Tactics Advance GBA was not sequel of FF Tactics PS1 despite it took same setting at Ivalice.
FF Tactics A2 NDS was a sequel of FF Tactics Advance GBA.

@Anti-Matter
Ahh. Okay. Just curious if I'd be getting anything new.