@electrolite77 tbh that preservation argument seems a bit far fetched imo. At least I dont care as much about it as others seem to.
However, I wouldnt underestimate the impact of collectors. Not sure how many are out there but its collectors contribute a lot imo. Safe to say the average gamer/family probably wont be buying as many games as collectors. Then there is gamers who will sell off their games after beating them. Even as a small time collector (around 130 switch games atm) I can say I had been buying more games than I had time to play with an ever increasing backlog thats reaching back to the wii/ds era. I also purchased games for collections sake, like princess peach, or the game garage, if those werent made by nintendo I probably wouldnt have cared.
While I definitely would have liked to continue I also have other hobbies and that backlog I mentioned, haha. So in a way I don't mind key cards being around.
@electrolite77 Definitely a bit early to draw conclusions. In six months we should know more. We also havent seen any big releases like eldenring or persona reload. And I bet those will definitely sell regardless of medium.
But we all know nintendo isnt a third party platform, and yet the switch 1 has seen tons of releases. Third party games are said to sell very poorly atm, if this keeps up it will hurt nintendo in the long run.
The sentiment towards GCK is very negative. Also prices, but prices didnt deter me from buying the s2. With key cards I can wait until they get dirt cheap. So for me personally I win either way, if they start releasing on cards again, I get what I want. If they dont I save a lot of money.
@kmtrain83 they will course correct in some form. Negativity towards key cards can have huge implications. I mean while I absolutely hate key cards I wouldnt wanna miss out on a must have title. But same as with digital games I would rather wait a year or two for a huge discount. Whereas in card form it could have been a day one purchase. And day one or month one purchases are the determining factor for a games success. And there is alot of negative sentiment out there. Who knows it might even lead to people pirating more games.
@AllBLK not so sure tbh. It all depends on sales and third party games havent been doing so well. Might be many reasons but key cards is certainly one of them and the most voiced reason. Both key card surveys didnt come out of nowhere. Key cards are here bc nintendo is greedy and charges third partys alot, think its 30%. Key cards enable them to make a bit more money. So if people dont buy third party games: a) nintendo makes less money than they could have made. b) third parties might port less games or no games at all. Both options arent great for nintendo!
@AllMyNinjasSmile tbh thats how its been for a long time imo. The switch' success just emboldened them to go a couple steps further. I guess they didnt expect a backlash at all and thought people will be as happy as always.
I have come not only to accept but to like the key card situation.
Will only buy absolute must have games in key card form, and thus save a lot of money. Otherwise I would feel tempted here and there to buy a slightly mediocre or less appealing game, like wild hearts or maybe that elliot game, games I might never get down to actually playing. The threshold to actually buy a key card game has become VERY HIGH for me.
@MidnightDragonDX rune factory azuma is on card. Tbh by now its time to accept the new reality imo. Key cards are here to stay wether we like it or not.
Gotta say though, can't wait until star wars outlaws releases and see how it does on switch and the youtube vids surrounding it, haha. This stuff never gets old!
It started off pretty nicely with Monster Hunter Stories 3 - key card or not, its gonna be a purchase at around 50% off
Ivalice Chronicles wasn't news, lol, will buy the switch 1 version.
Persona 3, a must have for me, probably around 50% off
Other than that, everything is an easy skip, except maybe the Kiwami games, but I can wait a couple of years and get the bundle when its heavily discounted.
I am not too much into warriors games, but always added them to my collection regardless, lol. Please be a key card, otherwise I will feel obliged to buy it, haha
aside from new key card releases, haha I expect some atlus news, probably persona 3 reload and/or metaphor. I will buy both games regardless if they are on key card or not, just not day one. Same goes for Eldenring and Final Fantasy.
Other than that no must have title comes to mind.
Looking forward to this direct, just to see how many games I will skip entirely but would have bought otherwise.
Ahh, maybe some demon x machina news, now thats a game I am actually not tooo interested in but will buy just to show my support of game cardridges, since its not a must have title for me I will wait for the inevitable discount as well.
Financially I got into the situation where I need to make meaningful decisions atm, can't waste too much money. I mean I own the s1 game and wont double dip with any game, but I won't upgrade this one either
NGL, if they hadn't done their digital only thing because of greed they might have had a chance to win the race. Playstation plus killed them in the aftermath. So stupid.
Idk, just saw a vid on YT that claimed its the switch 1 game plus switch 2 extras for $80. Not that it matters to me as I wont be buying nor upgrading, but still kinda greedy and/or lazy imo
@FX102A very true! Imo they should have released both options, a cheaper key card for the ones who wanna save money and a more expensive card for people who don't mind to pay extra.
I have come to terms with games being released on key cards as I will be saving a lot of money by skipping a lot of games and waiting for huge discounts on the games I wanna play.
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Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting The Switch 2 Upgrade For Kirby And The Forgotten Land?
I still havent played the original, lol. Once I get down to it I will probably get the upgrade but who knows when that will be
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@electrolite77 tbh that preservation argument seems a bit far fetched imo. At least I dont care as much about it as others seem to.
However, I wouldnt underestimate the impact of collectors. Not sure how many are out there but its collectors contribute a lot imo. Safe to say the average gamer/family probably wont be buying as many games as collectors. Then there is gamers who will sell off their games after beating them. Even as a small time collector (around 130 switch games atm) I can say I had been buying more games than I had time to play with an ever increasing backlog thats reaching back to the wii/ds era. I also purchased games for collections sake, like princess peach, or the game garage, if those werent made by nintendo I probably wouldnt have cared.
While I definitely would have liked to continue I also have other hobbies and that backlog I mentioned, haha. So in a way I don't mind key cards being around.
Re: Nintendo Won't Let Charity Speedrunning Event Use Its Games Without Permission, Because Of Course
Go give them hell nintendo! /S
I mean nintendo has lost quite a bit of good will from customers recently, thats putting it mildly. Lol!
Wouldn't hurt them if they became a tad bit more friendly and behave less like absolute A-xxxxx. But oh well, the greed must be real.
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@electrolite77 Definitely a bit early to draw conclusions. In six months we should know more.
We also havent seen any big releases like eldenring or persona reload. And I bet those will definitely sell regardless of medium.
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@electrolite77 exactly what I said.
But we all know nintendo isnt a third party platform, and yet the switch 1 has seen tons of releases. Third party games are said to sell very poorly atm, if this keeps up it will hurt nintendo in the long run.
The sentiment towards GCK is very negative. Also prices, but prices didnt deter me from buying the s2. With key cards I can wait until they get dirt cheap.
So for me personally I win either way, if they start releasing on cards again, I get what I want. If they dont I save a lot of money.
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@kmtrain83 they will course correct in some form.
Negativity towards key cards can have huge implications.
I mean while I absolutely hate key cards I wouldnt wanna miss out on a must have title. But same as with digital games I would rather wait a year or two for a huge discount. Whereas in card form it could have been a day one purchase. And day one or month one purchases are the determining factor for a games success.
And there is alot of negative sentiment out there. Who knows it might even lead to people pirating more games.
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@AllBLK not so sure tbh. It all depends on sales and third party games havent been doing so well. Might be many reasons but key cards is certainly one of them and the most voiced reason. Both key card surveys didnt come out of nowhere.
Key cards are here bc nintendo is greedy and charges third partys alot, think its 30%. Key cards enable them to make a bit more money.
So if people dont buy third party games: a) nintendo makes less money than they could have made. b) third parties might port less games or no games at all.
Both options arent great for nintendo!
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@kmtrain83 we might see a complete edition at some point. Who knows maybe it will be on card by that time
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
@AllMyNinjasSmile tbh thats how its been for a long time imo. The switch' success just emboldened them to go a couple steps further.
I guess they didnt expect a backlash at all and thought people will be as happy as always.
Re: Nintendo Sends Out Second Game-Key Card & Physical Game Survey
I have come not only to accept but to like the key card situation.
Will only buy absolute must have games in key card form, and thus save a lot of money. Otherwise I would feel tempted here and there to buy a slightly mediocre or less appealing game, like wild hearts or maybe that elliot game, games I might never get down to actually playing. The threshold to actually buy a key card game has become VERY HIGH for me.
Re: Rumour: Three Games Were Pulled From Nintendo's Direct Partner Showcase, According To Veteran Games Journalist
Three key cards were pulled? Amazing news, lol
Re: Best Lord Of The Rings Games, Ranked - Switch And Nintendo Systems
Lol, tales of the shire.
anyhow the title is misleading, it should be: all lotr games ranked
Cause best implies all of them are good. Just my two cents
Re: More Switch Games Reportedly Receive Switch 2 Compatibility Fixes
@Cakefish oh, didn't know about that? it's not running at all?
Re: More Switch Games Reportedly Receive Switch 2 Compatibility Fixes
afaik the only game I own thats unplayable is Tokyo Xanadu
Re: Hands On: Forget The Name, Square Enix's New Action RPG Is A Lovely HD-2D Take On SNES-Era Zelda
one of those games I would be mildly interested in and eventually buy for the collection (probably not on day one tho) and MAYBE play it one day.
thanks to key cards that situation doesn't exist anymore! actually one of the pros of key cards, no more money wasted on non-must haves, haha.
anyone feel the same?
Re: SpongeBob SquarePants: Titans Of The Tide Brings A Ghostly Adventure To Switch 2 This November
@MidnightDragonDX rune factory azuma is on card.
Tbh by now its time to accept the new reality imo. Key cards are here to stay wether we like it or not.
Re: Switch 2 Has Sold "More Than 6 Million" Units, And Almost As Many Copies Of Mario Kart World
Idk about stock in europe. Afaik it was never sold out. There is even sales on bundles, lol
Re: Surprise! Bloober Team Is Bringing Sci-Fi Scares To Switch 2 With 'Cronos: The New Dawn'
Have to admit this looks very interesting and stylish. The music feels spot on. Hope this game succeeds. Wonder if it releases on game card, lol
Re: Octopath 0 Is A Game-Key Card On Switch 2, And Square Enix Has "No Plans" For A Switch 1 Upgrade Option
Skipped the first two games bc I never a discounted version if the first game and wasnt willing to pay full price.
Cant play them all I guess.
Re: Square Enix Is Bringing A Brand New HD-2D RPG To Switch 2 Next Year
Wait a sec, looking at the game profile pic, is this a key card or not?
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase July 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
Gotta say though, can't wait until star wars outlaws releases and see how it does on switch and the youtube vids surrounding it, haha. This stuff never gets old!
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase July 2025: Every Announcement, Game Reveal, Trailer
the key card direct could have been worse
It started off pretty nicely with Monster Hunter Stories 3 - key card or not, its gonna be a purchase at around 50% off
Ivalice Chronicles wasn't news, lol, will buy the switch 1 version.
Persona 3, a must have for me, probably around 50% off
Other than that, everything is an easy skip, except maybe the Kiwami games, but I can wait a couple of years and get the bundle when its heavily discounted.
I am not too much into warriors games, but always added them to my collection regardless, lol. Please be a key card, otherwise I will feel obliged to buy it, haha
Re: Interactive Therapy Session 'A Dream About Parking Lots' Drifts Onto Switch Today
Kudos for the idea. But I will pass, haha
Re: Nintendo Was The Only One Making Steady Revenue On NES, Says Capcom Vet
Its all nintendos fault. Greid, greid,
Re: Ys X: Proud Nordics Allows Switch Players To Transfer "Clear Data" To Switch 2
Will skip. Got the s1 game already
Re: Feature: Nintendo Partner Direct Predictions - What Do You Expect To See?
aside from new key card releases, haha I expect some atlus news, probably persona 3 reload and/or metaphor. I will buy both games regardless if they are on key card or not, just not day one. Same goes for Eldenring and Final Fantasy.
Other than that no must have title comes to mind.
Looking forward to this direct, just to see how many games I will skip entirely but would have bought otherwise.
Ahh, maybe some demon x machina news, now thats a game I am actually not tooo interested in but will buy just to show my support of game cardridges, since its not a must have title for me I will wait for the inevitable discount as well.
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Announced For Tomorrow, 31st July 2025
@Metazoxan huh? wdym for now? buy digital now and then what? buy the key card later? doesn't make any sense so I guess u meant something else
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Announced For Tomorrow, 31st July 2025
More key card news coming up. Key cards are preventing me from purchasing games until they get discounted. so sad...
Re: Review: Tales Of The Shire: A The Lord Of The Rings Game (Switch) - The Hobbit, Or "There It Crashed Again"
can't say I was genuinely interested in this game but I am genuinely surprised it's that bad
Re: 'The Hundred Line' Receives A New Update, Here's What's Included
Need an eu physical.
Re: Sony Job Listing Suggests More PS5 Games Could Get A Nintendo Release
The only games that come to my mind are bloodborne and demon souls
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Super Mario Party Jamboree For Switch 2?
Financially I got into the situation where I need to make meaningful decisions atm, can't waste too much money. I mean I own the s1 game and wont double dip with any game, but I won't upgrade this one either
Re: Ubisoft Reportedly Cancels Star Wars Outlaws Sequel
@tameshiyaku or they may have taken a look at the protagonist and decided from there
Re: Ubisoft Reportedly Cancels Star Wars Outlaws Sequel
Its probably tencents doing. Otherwise they would have continued to release slop and then blamed everyone else.
Re: Nintendo's Official Camera "Attach Rate" With Switch 2 Revealed For US
I never really considered this camera or an alternative as I am mostly into single player stuff.
Re: Review: Patapon 1+2 Replay (Switch) - A Pleasing Return For Some PSP Charmers
Its pretty cheap from what I see, hmm....
Re: Xbox Will Reportedly Announce "More Game Ports" For Other Platforms Soon
NGL, if they hadn't done their digital only thing because of greed they might have had a chance to win the race. Playstation plus killed them in the aftermath. So stupid.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Party Jamboree - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV
@BTB20 I would have expected an upgrade to the base switch 1 game. Afaik its literally the switch 1 game on a switch 2 card
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Super Mario Party Jamboree - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV
Idk, just saw a vid on YT that claimed its the switch 1 game plus switch 2 extras for $80.
Not that it matters to me as I wont be buying nor upgrading, but still kinda greedy and/or lazy imo
Re: Trails Beyond The Horizon Lifts Off With New Switch 1 & 2 Release Date
At least they are releasing it on switch one with a proper card
Re: NIS America: Trails Beyond The Horizon Switch 2 Game-Key Card Release Is "Most Beneficial Option" For Fans
@FX102A very true! Imo they should have released both options, a cheaper key card for the ones who wanna save money and a more expensive card for people who don't mind to pay extra.
Re: NIS America: Trails Beyond The Horizon Switch 2 Game-Key Card Release Is "Most Beneficial Option" For Fans
I have come to terms with games being released on key cards as I will be saving a lot of money by skipping a lot of games and waiting for huge discounts on the games I wanna play.
Re: Review: Wild Hearts S (Switch 2) - Monster Hunting That's Satisfying, If Unspectacular
Would have considered it if it came on a proper card. will only buy must haves on key card
Re: Random: DK Enthusiast Breaks Switch 2 In Bananas Spray Painting Job Gone Wrong
It was for the views imo
Re: Ubisoft's Yves Guillemot Is Hopeful That Upcoming Switch 2 Port Can Revive Star Wars Outlaws
Who knows maybe it will find its audience here. Gotta say tho, watching slop fail never gets old, haha
Re: Zelda: BOTW & TOTK Are "Transformative" On Switch 2, Says Digital Foundry
@Otimus I wasnt sure bc I heard the DLC wasnt included on the s2 card. Thanks for clarifying!
Re: Zelda: BOTW & TOTK Are "Transformative" On Switch 2, Says Digital Foundry
Can anyone confirm if I buy the botw upgrade will it also upgrade the dlc?
Re: Around 1 In 3 Switch 2 Owners Bought New Pro Controller Despite High Price Point (US)
Haha, not from the US but I bought one too. Had to decide between the mke bundle or basic plus pro controller. Now I am without games, lol
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Switch 2 Rating Spotted Online
Haha, the backlash was real back in the day! It gave us that Yasuke song, totally worth it! Haha
Re: Nintendo's LEGO Game Boy Officially Revealed, Releasing October 2025
Nice! Although I am not too much into display only lego - botanicals notwithstanding