This is what they don't get. I have every single Trails related game released on Switch, as physical, and I've only beat one. Someday I'll finish more. But without the incentive of getting a physical copy while in print so I can have an "archival copy"? I can wait FOREVER until I want it digitally at huge discount.
My biggest need is substantial platforming. Not just smashing or using tricks to surf around and stuff but honest to goodness platforming in this. My other need is for some environments to be showcased that a "wow" factor to it. I didn't think anything Treehouse showed looked all that interesting. My final hope is for some big twist. No clue what that is, but this is missing something.
I've heard that some podcasters with really really little kids that their kids like it. So that's good. But honestly the open world feels slapped on to market this as a bigger deal than the game would be without it.
I'm thinking the writer didn't play Arkham Knight for more than 20 minutes because the game now crashes a lot. Also Age of Calamity does run but but looks at LEAST as worse visually as it did on Switch, I'd have to check the Switch to see if it looks worse. I know Xenoblade 2 actually looks worse visually on Switch 2.
He should get a thanks since he created all these characters and concepts essentially. But Nintendo doesn't want anyone thinking anybody at Nintendo is Mr. Nintendo. They just want you to think everything they release comes from a magical land of smiles without faces
This is frickin' awesome! There was no guarantee that the Switch emulation on Switch 2 would brute force performance like that. Emulation at times can just match a simulation of the original hardware (so it performs the same you see this in retro game collections). So excited to test out the Xenoblade games!
@TAndvig I think that just means that either 1) you need to update each game for it to run on Switch 2 or 2) There is a day 1 OS update that needs to be installed before running the games. I'm assuming this is isn't a "Everytime you pop in a Switch game into Switch 2 you have to verify thru the Internet. I just doubt they're that bad and think it's option 2 and is part of the reason they haven't sent review systems out to outlets yet.
@Diven that's okay if the game data itself isn't transfered I just want all the icons, the keycard loading and dlc access along with the physical save data (for games like Splatoon 2 that don't use the cloud) to transfer over in one action. I expected to have to redownload my digital game data (I'm mostly physical).
Maybe this all means I can just do a system transfer and not worry about porting everything over and redownloading individually straight from the eshop Any body else stressed about how that process is gonna work?
@RupeeClock to your point about the Switch 2 successor being digital only - if it's backwards compatible game keycards are much worse as a purchasing option than just digital.
Nothing I'm seeing from this open world does anything for me. Feels a bit "we didn't know what else to do with the game so we slapped this concept onto it." This would have been neat in 2017 but nowadays I'm just more interested in how engaging the moment to moment gameplay is.
It should become the leader in 3rd party for Japanese devs, but not for the Western devs unless something catastrophic happens with the PS6 or end of life PS5. Switch 2 will have a huge Japanese audience and I feel like the western Switch 2 audience will lend itself more toward Japanese games and indies and some Western stuff like Hogwarts for the most part.
Just depends on how Switch 2 handles Switch 1 emulation if this will lock the variable fps to 60. Sometimes emulation (without a patch) strictly targets the the original hardwares specs (it's why some retro game collections still have slowdown or flicker as it is exactly emulating original hardware). Maybe the Switch 1 emulation on Switch 2 acts like an emulation of a Switch Pro? So same basic hardware but more powerful. This could also explain why some games have issues being emulated on Switch 2, because it's not a 1 for 1 emulation. Who knows?! Would love official answers.
@majinx07 yep - I'd love to transfer my Splatoon 2 data to switch 2 and some of the Pokemon games since they all don't use cloud - in the past when I got a new Switch 1 I'd just do a full system transfer, but with how some Switch games aren't compatible with Switch 2, I don't know if I'd want to do a full transfer. Actually stressing on this.
@Stormcloudlive another random one off the top of my head is Intireates Gal Guardians (the first one). I guess with Legacy 1 the issue is the emulator is different on that one. But the fact I'm going to have to go thru a list of my games before transferring is stressing me out. I think MM1 will boot but has issues. gal Guardians might not even bott correctly.
Not buying another Capcom game for Switch until I know what their backwards compatible game sitch is. Mega Man Legacy 1 is notbackwards compatible so I'm holding off.
@Jalex_64 that footage is also of an older build and Im having a hard time making out the fidelity of image and performance in those capture. We're a month out, we NEED actual extended footage of gameplay.
I attributed the weird fonts and stuff as low rez assets being ai upscaled. I'm certain of it in the case of the shot where the Mario gang is parked in front of an SNES style billboard
I applied for this within like 15 minutes or less of it going up on their site (was listening to an IGN Livestream after the direct and one of the panelists announced it). I have always had Switch Online, 1000s of hours of gameplay and have had all my stuff set to share data with Nintendo....and I still don't have an invite. At least my Target preorder is still holding.
They. Need. To. Show. More. Footage. I'm planning on getting this, truly love them for being of one rare instances of not using a keycard, but we are a month out from launch and I'm not pulling the trigger on a preorder until they show us more of how it runs.
Game keycard and awful looking performance in the Direct presentation, give this a pass from me. If they get it looking good somewhere down the line annnnnnnnd it gets a massive digital discount, maybe I'll buy. If it was physical I'd risk it tho.
I hope that at launch if their sales exceed expectations they talk at length publicly how this is due in part to having a physical copy. It is the main reason I'm buying it and even considering maybe getting Rune Factory.
The game keycard thing has made the decision to adjust my spending habits for me. Just Mario Kart for me and Cyberpunk and maybe Rune Factory for the foreseeable future.
@Folkloner not stretching the definition, the release of this game will absolutely effect what games other publishers launch in whatever window this game would release. It might even be why we don't have later in the year dates for Switch 2 games because even Nintendo would absolutely schedule around this release.
@Rosona I did read your whole post. The only thing I didn't respond to was you talking about the surveying the 3rd party devs cuz I didn't really care. But there's nooooo way I'm reading your new post given how long it it is.
Most excited for Fire Emblem and a 2D Metroid. I was pretty underwhelmed by how slight the progression (and in some ways a regression) was from Splatoon 2 to 3. So they need to take their time with that one.
@Rosona yes I do know that they are almost entirely keycard games from 3rd party (and it has been widely reported they are only offering 64gb cards and keycards, no in-between). This is not an exaggeration. Once retailers started displaying games it was pretty clear. All Sega stuff are key cards. All Capcom releases (talking about Street Fighter in the USA and other releases in Japan, some aren't listed for US physical yet) are keycards. Marvelous games in the USA are full physical. Bravely Default is a key card. Cyberpunk is full physical. I think Elden Ring is a key card but I'm not sure. Madden and Split Fiction are codes in a box. Full physical is the exception. And ultimately key cards may be worse than digital, because even if the Switch 3 or further revisions are backwards compatible we have no guarantee they'll support physical insertion. Keycards also will lose value as their digital counterparts become cheaper over time meaning that a GameStop trade in will be extremely low and other ppl won't buy them off ya. I'm honestly pretty upset by all of this. Wish I was wrong. Basically we have a situation now where Nintendo has forwarded the death of physical releases as they are more common on the PS5 now
Didn't work as described, lol, would have been a helpful place to get clarification of all the questions we've had on things like "is the upgrade pack on the card?" Could announced it in a fun way if that seems too dry. What a waste.
Every 3rd party is basically a friggin key card. 256 GB will be eaten up fast. Even with a 256 GB expansion (have not seen any express 500 GB options anywhere unless it's a crappy unreliable brand like Lexar) it's gonna be tight. Nintendo really screwed us over by only having 64 GB cards and key cards available. This will absolutely cut down the amount of games I buy for this console.
@Slideaway1983 I watch Wumbo play it on PC and have little issue getting a match. I wish the consoles versions were console cross play so there was an actual pool of players. pC audience seems healthy.
@Aurumonado same, when something is digital, and I can get it anytime, there is no need to make sure you have a physical archival copy for the future even if you're not playing it the same year it came out. On Switch 2 I can see my backlog not growing. That said, it's not the fault of the publisher there is no card big enough for the game.
I'm cold on anything Capcom on Switch 2. All digital releases (and with the small 256 GB storage and the 256gb express card I barely managed to get) that storage is gonna fill up fast. Couple that with Megan Man Legacy 1 still is listing as not working on Switch I'm meh on them.
I don't get this article. The examples here show when and where fall damage feels appropriate and not appropriate and why it belongs. What a weird read.
@Duncanballs it will sell better but I question the annihilation. I watched a video recently recommended by someone on this board where they stated that the Japanese audience is bristling against even the region locked cheaper switch 2 and much more expensive games.
@LunarFlame17 I really dislike comments like this. It's obviously the consumers problem right, not the corporation for making mistakes in communication? Lol. While I agree this is probably a mistake this wouldn't be the first time select Switch 1st party titles didn't have cloud saved available. Splatoon 2, Pokemon Let's Go and Sword and Shield (prob the others as well) and Animal Crossing all have this issue.
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Re: Trails Beyond The Horizon Slips To Early 2026, But It's Also Coming To Switch 2
This is what they don't get. I have every single Trails related game released on Switch, as physical, and I've only beat one. Someday I'll finish more. But without the incentive of getting a physical copy while in print so I can have an "archival copy"? I can wait FOREVER until I want it digitally at huge discount.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Hoping To See In The Donkey Kong Bananza Direct?
My biggest need is substantial platforming. Not just smashing or using tricks to surf around and stuff but honest to goodness platforming in this. My other need is for some environments to be showcased that a "wow" factor to it. I didn't think anything Treehouse showed looked all that interesting. My final hope is for some big twist. No clue what that is, but this is missing something.
Re: Talking Point: How Are You Finding Mario Kart's Open World?
I've heard that some podcasters with really really little kids that their kids like it. So that's good. But honestly the open world feels slapped on to market this as a bigger deal than the game would be without it.
Re: Nintendo Reminds Us DK Is On The Way To Switch 2 Next Month
@BrokenCiv I'm in the same boat as you
Re: Feature: 11 Games With 'Secret' Performance Bumps You Should Revisit On Switch 2
I'm thinking the writer didn't play Arkham Knight for more than 20 minutes because the game now crashes a lot. Also Age of Calamity does run but but looks at LEAST as worse visually as it did on Switch, I'd have to check the Switch to see if it looks worse. I know Xenoblade 2 actually looks worse visually on Switch 2.
Re: Fans Have Noticed Someone's Name Is Missing From Mario Kart World's Credits
He should get a thanks since he created all these characters and concepts essentially. But Nintendo doesn't want anyone thinking anybody at Nintendo is Mr. Nintendo. They just want you to think everything they release comes from a magical land of smiles without faces
Re: The Switch 2 Fixes Its Predecessor's "Worst Performing" Game
This is frickin' awesome! There was no guarantee that the Switch emulation on Switch 2 would brute force performance like that. Emulation at times can just match a simulation of the original hardware (so it performs the same you see this in retro game collections). So excited to test out the Xenoblade games!
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
@TAndvig I think that just means that either 1) you need to update each game for it to run on Switch 2 or 2) There is a day 1 OS update that needs to be installed before running the games. I'm assuming this is isn't a "Everytime you pop in a Switch game into Switch 2 you have to verify thru the Internet. I just doubt they're that bad and think it's option 2 and is part of the reason they haven't sent review systems out to outlets yet.
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
@Diven that's okay if the game data itself isn't transfered I just want all the icons, the keycard loading and dlc access along with the physical save data (for games like Splatoon 2 that don't use the cloud) to transfer over in one action. I expected to have to redownload my digital game data (I'm mostly physical).
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
@Pat84 thank you so effing much!
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
Maybe this all means I can just do a system transfer and not worry about porting everything over and redownloading individually straight from the eshop Any body else stressed about how that process is gonna work?
Re: Street Fighter 6 Somehow Combines Game-Key Card And Code-In-A-Box On Switch 2
@RupeeClock to your point about the Switch 2 successor being digital only - if it's backwards compatible game keycards are much worse as a purchasing option than just digital.
Re: Video: Here's A Sneak Peek Of Mario Kart World's Start Screen
Nothing I'm seeing from this open world does anything for me. Feels a bit "we didn't know what else to do with the game so we slapped this concept onto it." This would have been neat in 2017 but nowadays I'm just more interested in how engaging the moment to moment gameplay is.
Re: Nintendo Partners With Samsung To Produce Main Chips For Switch 2
Has Samsung produced a 120 hz screen with VRR and no flicker? That's an issue on even super high end monitors.
Re: Nintendo Predicted To Become "Primary Partner For Third-Party Game Publishers"
It should become the leader in 3rd party for Japanese devs, but not for the Western devs unless something catastrophic happens with the PS6 or end of life PS5. Switch 2 will have a huge Japanese audience and I feel like the western Switch 2 audience will lend itself more toward Japanese games and indies and some Western stuff like Hogwarts for the most part.
Re: Zelda Fans Are Concerned About The Free Switch 2 Updates, But Don't Worry
Just depends on how Switch 2 handles Switch 1 emulation if this will lock the variable fps to 60. Sometimes emulation (without a patch) strictly targets the the original hardwares specs (it's why some retro game collections still have slowdown or flicker as it is exactly emulating original hardware). Maybe the Switch 1 emulation on Switch 2 acts like an emulation of a Switch Pro? So same basic hardware but more powerful. This could also explain why some games have issues being emulated on Switch 2, because it's not a 1 for 1 emulation. Who knows?! Would love official answers.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Pokémon Scarlet And Violet On Switch 2
@majinx07 yep - I'd love to transfer my Splatoon 2 data to switch 2 and some of the Pokemon games since they all don't use cloud - in the past when I got a new Switch 1 I'd just do a full system transfer, but with how some Switch games aren't compatible with Switch 2, I don't know if I'd want to do a full transfer. Actually stressing on this.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Capcom Fighting Collection 2
@Stormcloudlive another random one off the top of my head is Intireates Gal Guardians (the first one). I guess with Legacy 1 the issue is the emulator is different on that one. But the fact I'm going to have to go thru a list of my games before transferring is stressing me out. I think MM1 will boot but has issues. gal Guardians might not even bott correctly.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Capcom Fighting Collection 2
Not buying another Capcom game for Switch until I know what their backwards compatible game sitch is. Mega Man Legacy 1 is notbackwards compatible so I'm holding off.
Re: Limited Run's Switch 2 Numbered Releases Will Reportedly Include The "Full Game On The Cartridge"
Absolute garbage. What is the point of this release if it's not physical from a physical games company.
Re: Talking Point: Are You Excited At All For Switch 2 GameChat?
Nope, not excited because this will not be implemented for a public chat in things like Splatoon 4 or Smash. Misses the point
Re: Feature: "We’re Very Confident" - CD Projekt Red On Delivering The Full Cyberpunk 2077 Experience On Switch 2
@Jalex_64 that footage is also of an older build and Im having a hard time making out the fidelity of image and performance in those capture. We're a month out, we NEED actual extended footage of gameplay.
Re: Nintendo Says AI-Generated Images "Were Not Used" In Mario Kart World
I attributed the weird fonts and stuff as low rez assets being ai upscaled. I'm certain of it in the case of the shot where the Mario gang is parked in front of an SNES style billboard
Re: PSA: My Nintendo Store Switch 2 Invites Are Starting To Roll Out
I applied for this within like 15 minutes or less of it going up on their site (was listening to an IGN Livestream after the direct and one of the panelists announced it). I have always had Switch Online, 1000s of hours of gameplay and have had all my stuff set to share data with Nintendo....and I still don't have an invite. At least my Target preorder is still holding.
Re: Feature: "We’re Very Confident" - CD Projekt Red On Delivering The Full Cyberpunk 2077 Experience On Switch 2
They. Need. To. Show. More. Footage. I'm planning on getting this, truly love them for being of one rare instances of not using a keycard, but we are a month out from launch and I'm not pulling the trigger on a preorder until they show us more of how it runs.
Re: Ubisoft's Switch 2 Physical Release Of Star Wars Outlaws Is A "Game-Key Card"
Big pass from me.
Re: Elden Ring On Switch 2 Will Introduce Two Brand New Character Classes
Game keycard and awful looking performance in the Direct presentation, give this a pass from me. If they get it looking good somewhere down the line annnnnnnnd it gets a massive digital discount, maybe I'll buy. If it was physical I'd risk it tho.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
I hope that at launch if their sales exceed expectations they talk at length publicly how this is due in part to having a physical copy. It is the main reason I'm buying it and even considering maybe getting Rune Factory.
Re: Talking Point: With Prices Rising, Are Your Gaming Habits Changing?
The game keycard thing has made the decision to adjust my spending habits for me. Just Mario Kart for me and Cyberpunk and maybe Rune Factory for the foreseeable future.
Re: 'Wild Hearts S' Switch 2 Release Detailed By Koei Tecmo
Game keycard tho so NOPE
Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
The gun play looked good awful in this is the issue.
Re: ICYMI: 12 Switch Games Will Receive Free Switch 2 Upgrades
Insane that at the very least XBC X isn't getting a free upgrade right off the bat.
Re: ICYMI: 12 Switch Games Will Receive Free Switch 2 Upgrades
They're gonna slowly share our free updates like the Online membership Retro games or Music App stuff aren't they?
Re: Poll: Orange Or Red Switch eShop - Make Your Choice
@steely_pete same.
Re: Grand Theft Auto 6 Has Been Delayed And Will Now Launch In May 2026
@Folkloner not stretching the definition, the release of this game will absolutely effect what games other publishers launch in whatever window this game would release. It might even be why we don't have later in the year dates for Switch 2 games because even Nintendo would absolutely schedule around this release.
Re: Atlus Reveals 'RAIDOU Remastered' Switch 2 Performance And Resolution
@Rosona I did read your whole post. The only thing I didn't respond to was you talking about the surveying the 3rd party devs cuz I didn't really care. But there's nooooo way I'm reading your new post given how long it it is.
Re: Talking Point: Which Nintendo Series Are You Most Excited To See Return On Switch 2?
Most excited for Fire Emblem and a 2D Metroid. I was pretty underwhelmed by how slight the progression (and in some ways a regression) was from Splatoon 2 to 3. So they need to take their time with that one.
Re: Atlus Reveals 'RAIDOU Remastered' Switch 2 Performance And Resolution
@Rosona yes I do know that they are almost entirely keycard games from 3rd party (and it has been widely reported they are only offering 64gb cards and keycards, no in-between). This is not an exaggeration. Once retailers started displaying games it was pretty clear. All Sega stuff are key cards. All Capcom releases (talking about Street Fighter in the USA and other releases in Japan, some aren't listed for US physical yet) are keycards. Marvelous games in the USA are full physical. Bravely Default is a key card. Cyberpunk is full physical. I think Elden Ring is a key card but I'm not sure. Madden and Split Fiction are codes in a box. Full physical is the exception. And ultimately key cards may be worse than digital, because even if the Switch 3 or further revisions are backwards compatible we have no guarantee they'll support physical insertion. Keycards also will lose value as their digital counterparts become cheaper over time meaning that a GameStop trade in will be extremely low and other ppl won't buy them off ya. I'm honestly pretty upset by all of this. Wish I was wrong. Basically we have a situation now where Nintendo has forwarded the death of physical releases as they are more common on the PS5 now
Re: Poll: After One Month, How Often Are You Actually Using 'Nintendo Today'?
Didn't work as described, lol, would have been a helpful place to get clarification of all the questions we've had on things like "is the upgrade pack on the card?" Could announced it in a fun way if that seems too dry. What a waste.
Re: Analyst Predicts Record-Breaking Launch Numbers For Switch 2
@Everythingnotsaved this is exactly it.
Re: Poll: GameStop Offers A Tempting Switch 2 Trade-In Deal, But Is It Really Worth It?
I'd definetly not trade it in. It's looking like a bunch of games won't work on Switch 2. The Mega Man Legacy 1 won't work for example.
Re: Atlus Reveals 'RAIDOU Remastered' Switch 2 Performance And Resolution
Every 3rd party is basically a friggin key card. 256 GB will be eaten up fast. Even with a 256 GB expansion (have not seen any express 500 GB options anywhere unless it's a crappy unreliable brand like Lexar) it's gonna be tight. Nintendo really screwed us over by only having 64 GB cards and key cards available. This will absolutely cut down the amount of games I buy for this console.
Re: Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S Gets Its First Nintendo Switch 2 Trailer
@Slideaway1983 I watch Wumbo play it on PC and have little issue getting a match. I wish the consoles versions were console cross play so there was an actual pool of players. pC audience seems healthy.
Re: Switch 2 "Code-In-A-Box" Physical Game Listing Spotted Online
@Aurumonado same, when something is digital, and I can get it anytime, there is no need to make sure you have a physical archival copy for the future even if you're not playing it the same year it came out. On Switch 2 I can see my backlog not growing. That said, it's not the fault of the publisher there is no card big enough for the game.
Re: Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S Gets Its First Nintendo Switch 2 Trailer
Is this cross play or no? Because it's been nearly impossible to get a match in teg Puyo Puyo 2 for years.
Re: Resident Evil's Continued Success Makes Us Eager For Switch 2 Ports
I'm cold on anything Capcom on Switch 2. All digital releases (and with the small 256 GB storage and the 256gb express card I barely managed to get) that storage is gonna fill up fast. Couple that with Megan Man Legacy 1 still is listing as not working on Switch I'm meh on them.
Re: Paul Rudd Returns In An Awesome SNES-Style Switch 2 Commercial
They had a fun opportunity here and the tone kind of ruined it. Felt all over the place
Re: Opinion: It's Time To Get Rid Of Fall Damage
I don't get this article. The examples here show when and where fall damage feels appropriate and not appropriate and why it belongs. What a weird read.
Re: Japanese Charts: Mario Party Jamboree Rolls Its Way To Another Victory
@Duncanballs it will sell better but I question the annihilation. I watched a video recently recommended by someone on this board where they stated that the Japanese audience is bristling against even the region locked cheaper switch 2 and much more expensive games.
Re: Uh Oh, It Looks Like Select Switch 2 Games Won't Support Cloud Saves
@LunarFlame17 I really dislike comments like this. It's obviously the consumers problem right, not the corporation for making mistakes in communication? Lol. While I agree this is probably a mistake this wouldn't be the first time select Switch 1st party titles didn't have cloud saved available. Splatoon 2, Pokemon Let's Go and Sword and Shield (prob the others as well) and Animal Crossing all have this issue.