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Smash Bros. Director Pushing Himself "To The Brink" To Decide Character Roster

Posted by Damien McFerran

Masahiro Sakurai reveals the mental cost of making a legendary fighter

We already know the physical torment Smash Bros. director Masahiro Sakurai has had to suffer during the development of the Wii U and 3DS titles, but he has now revealed to Polygon the mental stress which comes with the job.

Sakurai admits that picking the combatants for the new Smash Bros. title is an incredibly demanding process, almost pushing him to the edge:

The amount of stress I feel, it's almost to the brink of death. Because it's not just a matter of me personally thinking this character or that character is going to be in the game; it's that we also have the game balance, animation, graphics and sound to think about in order to make that character fully fleshed out in that universe. I have to think about all of that when I go through this decision-making process.

It's little wonder that Sakurai is so anguished; the famous designer says that he also feels bad about removing characters, because he's aware that everyone has their favourite fighter:

Whether it's a minor character or a character that is one of the most highly skilled and most played, if that character is removed from the game, the people who live for that character in Smash Bros. are going to have their feelings hurt.

I think we have to really consider that, so I take a very serious, hard look at that and have empathy for the players who look for these type of characters when we're making these decisions.

As much as it pains us to hear of Sakurai's plight, it's encouraging to see a developer take their work so seriously.

[via polygon.com]

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digga

#1

digga said:

just hurry up and get it out already,,,, carnt wait for this its gunna be epic,, i hope it has a really good online mode

NintyMan

#2

NintyMan said:

I feel for him, considering how he had to jump from one big project in Kid Icarus Uprising to another when Iwata forced him to at E3 2011. That arm injury is bad enough, but mental stress is always worse than physical stress. At least it shows that he is passionate for his games and takes the feelings of fans seriously.

Hopefully he gets a nice, long vacation once these games are released.

johndevine

#3

johndevine said:

Indeed, I appreciate where he is coming from... but if he wants, I could select the l*ving characters for him. In about 5 minutes.

No 3rd party characters. That would sort out 80% of his problems.

I'm at my work, I have plenty of stuff to be worrying about here. None as trivial as what characters appear in Smash Brothers.

dumedum

#6

dumedum said:

I hope they include many characters relevant to the 3DS/Wii/Wii U games: Yarn Kirby, E. Gadd, Shulk, Pushmo etc.

Captain_Toad

#7

Captain_Toad said:

As much as Smash bros is important to us, it's not as important than the guy who makes it.
Please dont die over this Sakurai.

Alienfish

#8

Alienfish said:

@digga

Really? Show some respect for the hard work that this guy puts in. We'll be lucky to get this before fall 2015. Don't rush what's already being rushed.

Galenmereth

#10

Galenmereth said:

@johndevine I don't think you understand how it feels to be responsible for a multi-million dollar entertainment project which is under scrutiny not just by your bosses, but also hundreds of thousands of potential customers. I seldom comment inane comments like yours, but the lack of respect you show for other peoples' jobs is ridiculous and disgusts me.

And let this be said: Any job can be a true challenge, whether that be directing Smash Bros. or washing toilets; every job has its own challenges and stress factors.

deitypower

#11

deitypower said:

@digga The guy has an arm injury, on his right arm, the arm he always uses. You know how hard that is. Let's not rush him or his injury might gets worse.

Alienfish

#12

Alienfish said:

This is tougher than a lot of people realize. Goku seems like a great choice, one that I wanted, until you think about trying to represent him. Goku relies on his friends for his full identity. If it was up to everyone, the roster would grow into the hundreds and that just isn't feasable. It isn't easy work making a perfect game or a perfect anything.

@dumedum Yeah, it is scheduled for release fall 2014, but is that really when you expect it? If any game gets delayed, it will be this one.

UnseatingKDawg

#13

UnseatingKDawg said:

Well, if some characters have to be removed, then they have to be removed. And while I do know that they stated that they aren't interested in DLC for the game, maybe they could make some characters free to download?

Jock_Nerd

#15

Jock_Nerd said:

It almost sounds like Sak's about to die over this decision. Remember everyone, it's just a game. Whatever decisions are made, are made. Have fun with it either way.

(If you're reading this Nintendo, you know, downloadable characters and game updates can solve a lot of heartache and headache.)

LavaTwilight

#16

LavaTwilight said:

Yeah it's well and good for us to make suggestions just because WE want them in there (Simon Belmont Simon Belmont Simon Belmont) but that doesn't mean he's going to put them in. I think he should remove the two new pokemon (lucario and pokemon trainer) and replace with 2 more (ie not mewtwo or pichu, maybe the newmewtwo) and since Namco/Bandai are working on it then The Pacster should be in there purely out of respect for his heritage. After that it can really go anyway.

DarkNinja9

#17

DarkNinja9 said:

i feel sorry for him cuz i too know how it feels to have stress anyway seems ppl on miiverse making it worse for him naming some stupid ideas on characters they want that dont even make sense to add -____-

but what i dont get is why dont they expand more on how many characters they can have then? but yeah why not also have those that he wanted to add but couldnt be as DLC for later?

Araknie

#18

Araknie said:

@johndevine Go away, please.

Sakurai has devoted most time of life developing videogames, he has worked even 20 hours a day in some periods. He got, multiple time, a damaged wrist and other medical problems.

Just go.

Rasumii

#19

Rasumii said:

@DarkNinja9 He's trying to balance out every character, rather than have a plethora of characters to choose from. I'd rather have a balanced system, than more characters.

I'm excited for however this goes. Obviously if you need to remove characters, you have to remove them. I'm sure the game will still be fantastic. I will always be excited to see new characters. If all the characters are horrible (Which by the looks of it, that's not going to happen since the addition of Megaman and the Villager), Mario will still be a classic option.

Shambo

#21

Shambo said:

please never, ever remove the ice-climbers... or i WILL cry, honestly, i believe i actually would. i know not that many play them, they're not that iconic... but i need them to stay.

johndevine

#22

johndevine said:

@Araknie "multiple time?". I hope he got that fixed.

Look at what you are writing. Just put the characters in the game and thats it.

Next you'll be telling me Shinji Mikami almost commited suicide trying to decide how much ammo to put in Resident Evil.

I appreciate it's a difficult decision. He just has to make it.

I assure you that when it comes to being a Nintendo or Smash Brothers fan I would say I'm a lot more devout than 90% of you folks. Smash Brothers will hopefully be good.

The addition or removal of a few characters will not majorly affect that.

WaveWarlock

#23

WaveWarlock said:

I wouldn't mind seeing Snake, Mewtwo and Wolf getting the axe. ;)
Throw in some more worth while 'minor' Nintendo characters like King Hippo, Dixxie Kong, and Starfy. I'm sure Little Mac will make it in, but Starfy? Do you guys think he has a decent chance?

johndevine

#24

johndevine said:

ps. Namco Bandai development doesn't mean they should include their characters.

Smash brothers is loved because of its Nintendo characters, putting in Namco characters will not help the game.

Namco should just be glad to have the opportunity to have worked on it.

Yasume

#25

Yasume said:

@WaveBoy Mewtwo isn't in Brawl iirc. He got replaced by Lucario. He should give him the boot as well. King Dedede, Ice Climbers, Lucas, Pokemon Trainer, R.O.B., Snake, Sonic, Toon Link, Wolf and Zero Suit Samus wouldn't be missed either.

GearsOfWarU

#26

GearsOfWarU said:

As soon as Smash Bros is completed.... Please make a New KID ICARUS for Wii U ... That would be Awsome... Pit needs a new console adventure!!!! Can't wait to play Smash Bros (never played before) think my fighters will be PIT, Mega Man, Samus & Bowser ;-)

johndevine

#29

johndevine said:

@PorllM I work in the creation of a website and newspaper, that actually is loved by millions it seems. (It was confirmed by ABC)
I am entire life what?

Cloud-San-VII

#30

Cloud-San-VII said:

@Shambo
Yeah, when I used to play Melee, it was either them, any of the Pokemon, any of Zelda, or any of Fire Emblem.

Good luck to Mr. Sakurai and hope his arm feels better. You know, I think DLC for characters and stages would be perfect, but needs to be released after the game has been out there for AT LEAST a month and FOR FREE. And I ask that Mewtwo please returns (and my sweet Roy), and if he can't return normally, then please use his new form or have him turn into that or something! Please, I miss my Mewtwo (and Roy (and I'd say Pichu, but I'd rather have Roy)! Also, some new MOTHER/EarthBound would be much appreciated, as will Skull Kid. It's not a demand, but would be much obliged.

Thank you for devoting your time to the fans and hope your arm feels better, Mr. Sakurai!

Hunter-D

#31

Hunter-D said:

What a man. What a legend. I just hope he doesn't completely burn himself out. His health comes first, but having said that I commend his superb work ethic and drive. I am forever thankful towards him.

johndevine

#32

johndevine said:

Also, why not consult the logs from Smash Bros online character selections?
That would certainly confirm which characters were most popular and give a solid indication of which ones to remove.

I certainly appreciate Sakurai's contribution to Smash Brothers and the work he has done in the past.

Although "it's almost to the brink of death" is a bit much.
The bad things people have written to me on this website today have left me so upset it's almost to the brink of death.

I don't expect much sympathy.

Whopper744

#34

Whopper744 said:

wow...after reading a comment from a person or two, some people really need help.

Good to see he takes his job seriously (Sakurai)

krunchykhaos

#35

krunchykhaos said:

@johndevine trivial to you. His job is this game. You don't have to worry about names or who is in it. He has to worry about the game as a whole in every aspect.

johndevine

#36

johndevine said:

Maybe they should take him off the project and put someone else on it?
Someone who won't be suicidal when they start work on it.

Do you work in a place where someone is being made suicidal by their work?
Sign of a good workman is it?

johndevine

#37

johndevine said:

My point is:

He isn't suicidal. He isn't going to die. (At least not as a result of Smash Brothers development)

johndevine

#40

johndevine said:

triv·i·al
/ˈtrivēəl/
Adjective
Of little value or importance.
(of a person) Concerned only with trifling or unimportant things.

Compared with his potential death.... yes it's trivial.

grimbldoo

#42

grimbldoo said:

@johndevine #3
All right, let's take you up on that. Right now, in five minutes, make a list of all the characters you would put into smash. But you can't just stop at the names add the damage they deal with attacks, I'll give you a list to help.
All regular attacks: standing, up, and crouched
All charged attacks: up, crouched, and to the side
All aerial attacks: free falling, up, down, and behind
All smash attacks: standing, to the side, up, and down
And, finally, how much damage their super smash attack does.
But not only how much damage, also tell us what each smash attack and super smash does and how it works.
Finally, tell us how much damage each character takes from each other and how many units they are knocked backed with different levels of damage.

You may just be messing around to provoke people, but still, you said you could do it, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

thekylekurtz

#43

thekylekurtz said:

@johndevine for seeming intelligent you have an odd difficulty of grasping the idea of what to take as a literal statement or not. He clearly isn't thinking of killing himself, it's possible the translation only deepened the severity of what he actually said.

Worked to the bone? I bet if you heard someone say that you'd demand to see the actual spot where a bone is protruding.

Stop acting like an idiot if you aren't one.

LordGeovanni

#47

LordGeovanni said:

@johndevine
I am DEEPLY disturbed that you care NOTHING for his health. Major projects like Books, Movies, and Video Games ALWAYS cause major psychological and physiological harm to the workers. The stress that they are under is enormous. And the whole reason for it is because of people like digga (Post #1) and you. If he is having problems where he "jokes" about suicide, BACK OFF HIM.

And this latest post shows that you really just don't care.

grimbldoo

#48

grimbldoo said:

@TBD
I am.
p.s. I like your new avatar.
EDIT: Is there any way to get rid of the space that shows up under replies after edits? In this case, how "I am" is now double spaced away from "@TBD" instead of single spaced.

thekylekurtz

#50

thekylekurtz said:

I also belive what Sakurai is doing really does matter.

Kid Icarus was an amazing game, and playing it I could feel how much the game mattered to its creators. It's something I only come across in Nintendo games such as Fire Emblem Awakening and Animal Crossing. So to sit there on a high horse dismissing the decisions he has to make when they really do matter to others shows nothing but immaturity disguised as affluence. You pretend like you know better, when you're only showing how little you understand.

If that's your attitude, play some other game.

grimbldoo

#51

grimbldoo said:

@LordGeovanni
You shouldn't let him get to you, the fact that he made so many comments that all had the same level of audacity just screams that he is not being serious and is not worth your time or your stress.

LtAldoRaine

#53

LtAldoRaine said:

I hate that the 3DS version is limiting the Wii U one. I wish they just made the console one,but with all the content of both versions. I mean,that's the one people will play the most anyway.

Buut,I might be wrong,we don't know what kind of connectivity there will be between the two versions. I'm not expecting much of that,though.

bassoongoon

#54

bassoongoon said:

" ... it's not just a matter of me personally thinking this character or that character is going to be in the game; it's that we also have the game balance, animation, graphics and sound to think about in order to make that character fully fleshed out in that universe. ..."

Not to mention how fanatical fans are about who is and is not going to be on the roster! I for one am going to get the game, because I do not really care one way or another about what special characters that may be on it.

Daggo

#56

Daggo said:

A videogame really comes as frivolous when there's a man's health under stake. I really hope things are not as serious as he has said, occupational stress is a serious issue, it can lead to bigger problems, among there are back/neck issues and sudden cardiac arrests.

I wouldn't mind seeing SBB get delayed for health sake of all designers involved.

TeeJay

#57

TeeJay said:

Toon Link is my all-time favorite character in Brawl because of his speed and capacity for amazing aerial combos. That being said, I'm crushed that he's not going to appear in this next game (his appearance in the Spirit Tracks stage pretty much confirms that) but...if you need to remove characters...then...I...I understand... sniff

Your health comes first, Mr. Sakurai.

BandG

#58

BandG said:

@Yasume
all those make sense, but i hate to break it to you... King Dedede is Kirby's main antagonist, so he wont be removed... AND to add to that Sakurai is the creator of Kirby and Dedede. Its a wonder Dedede wasnt in Melee...

Intrepid

#60

Intrepid said:

@InfernoHamadi He will probably stick around, as Smash Bros. has had a second Link since Melee. Toon Link is my favorite, as I get the advantages of close and long range attacks with added mobility (regular Link is terrible at running and jumping compared to Toon Link). Besides, Wind Waker HD will keep him relevant enough to remain in the game. Why do you want him out anyway? You never gave a reason, so I'm curious.

Intrepid

#61

Intrepid said:

I hope Sakurai takes care of himself. Fans campain and complain to him all the time, but they don't understand the strain Sakurai is going through to choose the roster, as well as everything else the game requires. Sakurai's health and sanity should come first. A video game, even if it is Smash Bros., is not as important.

Personally, I would like to see Issac from Golden Sun in the game. He has the psynergy and the diijin to be a viable character, and Golden Sun has yet to be represented with a playable character in smash Bros.

BandG

#62

BandG said:

I love how many people say they want characters that are so out there. You have to think somewhat sensibly. Think of big selling franchises, and only a couple people from each of those. think people that "why haven't they been in the game already?" like Bowser Jr..

Whopper744

#64

Whopper744 said:

Someone mentioned Dedede probably not being removed and it reminded me (and I know there is an obvious reason why but) I always felt like Kirby and the like was somewhat favorited especially in Brawl. I mean, Mario is a huge character, and he should be the first guy shown in the opening, and maybe the begining of the story, ya know? But why is Kirby always with him? Don't get me wrong, I like Kirby, but I think there are several others that are quite more popular than he is.

Along with that, the Subspace Emissary (Spoiler) kind of led to Dedede and Kirby (along with a few others) saving everyone basically, right after Kirby was the one that destroyed the big laser.

TheEmerlLad

#66

TheEmerlLad said:

I mean hey, i get it. over the years we all want our characters in the next smash game. But as every year goes by. A more younger audience get's thrown into the mix and they become this immature pleas of throwing your arms around, crying out for your cahracters to be included.

C'mon. Smash is Smash, no matter how you look like it. I don't care if they put more characters like wii-fit trainer into the mix. It's going to be hella fun. And Sakurai put's his heart and sole into these games. Hell, he injured BOTH his hands developing these sons of beets. Literately, blood, sweat, and tears is going in these games. So be happy that we are getting Smash. Besides, whichever character stays or becomes included, it'll be in glorious stunning HD. Can't wait to see Peach and Zelda....:D~

shonenjump86

#67

shonenjump86 said:

Yeah, I feel for the guy. Removing some characters will be tough, because people do have their favorites. If it was me though, I would get rid of Wolf, Lucas, ROB, Lucario, Toon Link, and I hate to say it cause he's one of my favs but Ike as well :(. IMO, I don't think Lucas should be in the game since I don't think Nintendo will release Mother 3 outside of Japan anytime soon. Having him in the new Smash will be a big tease. Yup, here's Lucas, yet we still can't play Mother 3 :/. Anyways hopefully we can get a few more female characters and I still want at least want 5 3rd party characters, but I kinda doubt that. I'm sure the new Smash will be great regardless.

Einherjar

#69

Einherjar said:

Isnt Sakurai known for overdoing it in this regard, or am i mixing him up with the guy who slept in his office on chairs to get his work done.
But to be honest Mr Sakurai. Take your time. We already waited a fair bit of time, we can take a little more ;) Stressed out people tend to make dumb decisions. I rather have a late brilliant game than a somewhat lacking "on time" one.

SonataAndante

#70

SonataAndante said:

I was thinking about how I would handle the roster myself and I think at least one concrete set would be to include every character that has been in at least two Smash Bros games. That includes the original 12 and the majority of newcomers from Melee. Young/Toon Link could get canned or fully changed up as the sole exception. Keep a few of the most popular Brawl additions such as DDD, Meta Knight, obviously Pit's coming back, Olimar, and Sonic for various reasons. Characters like Lucas, Ike, Snake, and Lucario might not return due to a lack of timely relevance and roster constraints. Personally I think they should just accept DLC and eventually add every character back into the game and just maintain a more focused roster for launch, but that seems up to Sakurai.

All that said, I have a ton of respect for Sakurai and I can't imagine what kind of stress he feels considering the hundreds of thousands of people wanting X character to be playable. Sure a ton of suggestions are easily ignorable nonsense like Cloud Strife, but there's an awful lot of good suggestions too, and it must be tough for him to consider.

OracleOfTruth

#71

OracleOfTruth said:

I think Sakurai is doing and has done a great job so far. I feel that he's one of those guys who's doing it for the art.

WingedSnagret

#72

WingedSnagret said:

Really feel bad for Sakurai, because not matter who he adds in or takes out, some people are still going to complain. As glad as I am of him taking the project seriously, I just hope he doesn't take it to the extreme to the point where he is suffering. :(

Rafie

#73

Rafie said:

@Joshers744 "But why is Kirby always with him?"

Kirby is there in Smash because he is the face of his own franchise within Nintendo. Just like Mario, Link & Zelda, Samus, Fox, etc. Believe it or not, Kirby is actually pretty popular.

Whopper744

#74

Whopper744 said:

@Rafie, I know, it just seems kind of odd (besides the fact that it's the same creator) that he's kind of the 'second face' of Smash Bros if you will, next to Mario. He is popular in his own right htough, like you said. I think I just noticed it most when Dedede basically saved everyone when there was people like, Mario, Fox, Link, and others that seemed a little more capable. Oh well.

EarthboundBenjy

#75

EarthboundBenjy said:

I don't care if some of the characters get removed. I never used Wolf or ROB really. Just please keep Sonic! We need the cool dude with the 'tude from the '90s to be in. :D

TeeJay

#76

TeeJay said:

...With all the Smash Bros.-related news coming out, I'm surprised NL hasn't created a Smash Bros. tag yet.

AVahne

#78

AVahne said:

People...don't seem to realize JUST how stressful this is for him...even after reading the article....

FlyingKickPunch

#79

FlyingKickPunch said:

Now that Mega Man is in, all I need is Simon Belmont and I can relive my glorious NES days. I know he's third party, but in the 80's he was a pretty big part of the NES, just like Mega Man. His move set would fit perfectly too, with the whip, axes, holy water, cross etc...Konami gave us Snake last time, give us Simon Belmont this time! And I'd be totally fine if those were the ONLY 3rd party characters. :)

Neferupitou

#80

Neferupitou said:

Impossible to remove Jigglypuff she,s a veteran character like Capt.Falcon, Ness and Luigi-kun.

ultraraichu

#81

ultraraichu said:

Fans can be a stressful bunch. Expects alot before and during and always demand more when done.

I can imagine the character rosters to be tricky with all the reasons listed and since the other smash bros game have 10-13 more playable characters then the last, added expectation/pressure.

Squid

#82

Squid said:

Yeah, sorry Sakurai. It's hard to take you seriously like that when you go adding characters like Wii Fit Trainer.

Blizzaga

#83

Blizzaga said:

I was really sad when Mewtwo didn't make it to Brawl. I eventually got over it though because A, he was still in Melee and I can still enjoy using him in that game and B, at the end of the day, it's a video game. Is it really worth holding a grudge about? I think not.

I feel bad for Mr. Sakurai and the mental stress he is dealing with.

InfernoHamadi

#84

InfernoHamadi said:

@Intrepid i actually dont know how i said that but its a typing with speed mistake. actually i was trying to say dont take away toon link because he is the only character i used when i unlocked him. sorry that was wrong to say.

SuperiorTech

#85

SuperiorTech said:

@CaptainSquid
I agree but at the same time, I'd rather have her than some of the other characters from Brawl. I'm sure we all have a character or two that we don't care for. They should just do a poll and stick with the results. Unless there's already a poll somewhere that I don't know about in which case, I retract said statement.

Xiao_Pai

#86

Xiao_Pai said:

I hope he brings Mewtwo back, I miss playing as him. Anyways, everyone needs to quit asking him to rush things. (like he'll listen anyway, lol) We all know him, he takes his time, and the chances are high that the game won't show up until the end of 2014 or sometime in 2015.

3DSAllDay

#87

3DSAllDay said:

I don't care if this game takes an extra 3 years to come out, just make it an AMAZING game and we will be happy.

DreamyViridi

#88

DreamyViridi said:

I'm sure that all the people constantly preaching for their own characters doesn't help. I wish I could help Sakurai personally but alas... can't happen.

Captain_Balko

#89

Captain_Balko said:

Poor guy. Physical injuries hindering his work, which is obviously extremely stressful from the sound of it. I think part of the problem is that Nintendo has got a very rich history of games that he has to go through, and he has to decide which fan bases to make happy, and unfortunately which ones will be angry that their character wasn't included. We Nintendo fans are a very passionate bunch, and I'm sure it would sting if people all over the internet started criticizing his decisions (like the haters that think that Wii Fit trainer was a stupid choice, despite the fact that Wii Fit sold more than most Zelda games).

Chabbox

#90

Chabbox said:

You can get rid of Wolf and MAYBE Falco, because those three are practically the same ._. Please though, add someone like Bowser Jr. I could see him being SO unique and amazing, with his famous paintbrush from Super Mario Sunshine. Also, maybe characters like Krystal with the Star Fox Adventures spear. Furthermore, Luigi (if in the game) could be based around the theme of Luigi's mansion, and Sonic could be themed with chaos (the animals, not the state) from Sonic Adventure 2. These are all my opinions, and are shared amongst those of people who agree, but these are personal, and i'm open to criticism. Thanks.

Saturn

#91

Saturn said:

If he adds maybe 8 new characters everyone would be happy. No one is asking him to add 20 new fighters. However if we get hardly any new characters people will argue it doesn't have anything new in store. The solution is to not go overboard but still put in some new content.

Sir_Deadly

#93

Sir_Deadly said:

I'm am surprised that Phoenix Wright or Professor Layton hasnt even been mentioned for Smash Bros. or maybe they have and i havent seen it. They would make great addition, although idk wut there moves or special powers would be

Doma

#94

Doma said:

If an awesome character has been cut to make room for the likes of Village boy an Wii fit girl, it will be kinda maddening.

My choices would be to remove:

Metaknight and King Dedede
Pokemon trainer
Ganondorf - liked him in melee but sucked in brawl.
Falco/Wolf - no more clones please. I'd like Peppy with a different moveset and a taunt that says “ everything’s A-OK!”
Ness - just replace him with Lucas since he's better.
Jigglypuff - has been a wasted slot since the beginning.
Lucario - will obviously be replaced with a new mon regardless.
Marth and Roy - instead use somebody cool like Lyn and Hector.
Wario - change him to regular version instead, with moves related to Wario Land games.
Sonic and Snake - will likely be removed anyway.

… I think that's it.

Ernest_The_Crab

#96

Ernest_The_Crab said:

@Doma Most likely Ness won't be removed. Even though I agree that Lucas is better, the problem lies with the audience. Ness is better known in North America than Lucas, I'd say.

Some other choices could be tough removals as well. DeDeDe and Ganondorf are the major villains from their respective series.

Marth MIGHT be removed due to the release of Awakening since he has descendants (especially one that disguised as him).

The clones really shouldn't make a return, it would be better to just use the other existing IPs.

The WarioWare games sell better so Wario will most likely stay WarioWare themed (though they should probably make his moveset more random to reflect this).

Jigglypuff will most likely stay in the game seeing as it is a veteran of 3 games (and the original 12 have appeared in every game since the first game).

SuperZelda12

#97

SuperZelda12 said:

So Sorry for ya! But can you add maybe at least some of these characters?
Toon Link from Spirit Tracks
Toon Zelda/ Tetra
Kumatora maybe?
And Masked Man?
I just really want Toon Zelda and Toon Link to make it!!
And remove
Olimar
ROB
And Game and Watch
No offence!

Austroid

#98

Austroid said:

It almost seems like a bad idea now to have both a Smash Bros. community on Miiverse, as well as Sakurai himself posting new pictures of the games every day.

Hundreds of comments are just people whining about characters they want him to put in, no matter how ridiculous it may be. (Patrick from SpongeBob; really?)

AugustusOxy

#100

AugustusOxy said:

I have a really good way to solve that problem.

Don't take characters out. Sounds difficult? Too bad. Fighting games should be be released as betas, then slowly have characters added to it and tested, like PC games, until the balance is made. Finally the end result should be a deep experience that just grows and grows as time goes on and gets deeper and deeper.

The-Chosen-one

#101

The-Chosen-one said:

we all like to dream about some characters to come in, but some characters that people want in smashbros, come one... i heard the most strange things lol

just take it easy sakurai, dont stress to much, we know you will make an awesome game. we trust you with that.

DarkLloyd

#102

DarkLloyd said:

i'll take what he'll put in like i always have and not be expecting too much unlike somepeople.

In other words if sheik dont make it in i'll just default to Link. see guys no whiney complaints from me :P

JellySplat

#103

JellySplat said:

I hope he takes Sonic & or Metanight out! as long as he dosn't take Zelda out all will be good.

Dodger

#104

Dodger said:

It sounds like a difficult task. SSB has a huge fanbase and a very noisy one too. Anything annoying will be remembered for years and years and years.

They really could stand to switch up some of the current characters (especially clone characters). There is no reason Ganondorf has to be a clone of Captain Falcon. Buff Mario. Buff Samus. Buff Link. None of those characters feel anything like they do in their games. Mario is too slow and has two moves that aren't very useful (FLUDD and cape), Samus has no fast projectiles, is almost entirely melee based and is too slow and Link is way too heavy. Wolf should be changed up or leave, 3 identical star fox characters are too many. Nerf Meta Knight. Buff Sonic. All of his moves do the same thing (not much) and he isn't that fast. I'm not saying they need to all be god-tier but a lot of their biggest franchises are really low in the tier list. If they put time into reconsidering the moves for every character, I would be fine with no new characters.

That being said, new characters would be cool. :P I think Bowser Jr. would be surprisingly unique (the only thing he would keep from Bowser is the fire breath). He is small and has been a major character in many Mario games. Tingle could be fun. He has been in several Zelda games and has had a couple games to himself. Those that don't like him could use him as a punching bag. Shulk could be fun. He could use Monado powers. I would replace Ike with an Awakening character. As Chrom would be too close to Marth, I would add Robin and have him use a mixture of swordplay and magic. I still think Mii could be a very fun character.

I would keep the new characters simple and add other requests as assist trophies. Use the assist trophies as free advertising for some of the third parties that have been very loyal to Nintendo over the past generation. Professor Layton, Maxwell from Scribblenauts, Rayman, Commander Video, Amaterasu, Etc. Also a good way to give downloadable games a cameo without a lot of work.

In the end, they don't have to add a lot of new stuff. Just get rid of some of the clunky moves from Brawl and replace them with better moves and they'll have the best SSB yet. Even if it isn't the best SSB yet, it'll be a fun game and a solid seller. No need to overthink it.

Lasermaster123

#106

Lasermaster123 said:

Take care of yourself Sakurai. We wouldn't want you to seriously affect your health just because of a video game. Health comes before all this. I can understand the stress that guy must be facing. It must be very stressful to live upto the expectations of the fans as well as the company while also looking at fan feedback and making a fan-friendly game all at the same time.

@Intrepid
Yes I also want Isaac (definitely NOT Matthew) to be in the series. Isaac is the poster boy of the series as well as canonically the most important character due to his primary role in the events of the Golden Sun as well as the potential power he holds. He has so many different abilities, attacks and a whole djinn system of summoning to make him an entirely unique character. It is a shame that Nintendo has neglected this series, a series which initially was very similar to the handheld Final Fantasy and their highest rated/most popular RPG. His inclusion as playable character (not assist trophy like in Brawl) can give this overlooked series a good exposure for Golden Sun 4 (with Isaac in lead again :D) while also adding a very diverse character in the game. He would be my only character in SSB :D

Shambo

#107

Shambo said:

@Cloud-San-VII they are amazing, same goes for those you mentioned, and indeed, skull kid woeld be very welcome.

i hope with all my heart they add doshin. imagine the possibilities! he could shrink with damage taken, grow with damage dealt and his 'final smash'... well, those who played his game all went some kind of jashin on the villages at some point.

Balaclavab

#108

Balaclavab said:

Before developing the game, they should have done an official poll for characters, condensed it into a short list, then a final round of voting for it.

Henmii

#110

Henmii said:

"The amount of stress I feel, it's almost to the brink of death"

Don't push yourself to hard, son! That wouldn't be good!

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