@Duncanballs yeah that’s why I was thinking a price drop after having given SW2 time to get a following. I think a bigger problem would be production being cheap enough to achieve a cheap lite model.
If they could find a way to get a £99/$99 Switch out there in a year or so's time once the S2 is established and hopefully the Tariffs are gone. Could see them easily topping the PS2.
@Grumblevolcano tbf to Square im fairly sure they did a multi disc release for the PS5 version of rebirth with the whole game. So hopefully they do the same here.
@-wc- I think its probably more designed in a way that N can easily change these parts and the stick bases for easy custom joycons that keep the sleek black look.
@The-Chosen-one the two LoZ games are free with NSO+. Kirby and Mario Party have DLC too. They could have included the S2 upgrade with NSO and had a DLC only option but that would get confusing.
I dont think their plans for S2 upgrades is too bad, some stuff is paid some on NSO and some free.
@JohnnyMind I’m the same, not necessarily my jam unless it reviews really well. But what I do like is the start of indies that wouldn’t be feasible on S1 start to be announced for the new console.
Looking forward to seeing how many Switch 2 logos appear in the Xbox Showcase. I was surprised to only see THPS3+4 in the Direct. Hopefully we will see some others before then.
FWIW I think splitting up the MCC would be a mistake, but it would make an ideal candidate for the game key cart as you will want to pick and choose what games you have installed.
@HammerKirby I think in part it’s just Nintendo pulling back the curtain and being transparent how many games are physical but not containing the whole game and require a download, but in doing so offers a cheaper option to manufacturers that is more desirable than a code in a box(I’m hoping this isn’t an option at all). I’m a physical collector too so can’t say it’s my preferred approach but we have to be pragmatic unfortunately.
@Flugen code in a box is pointless, its an empty box with no additional value the second you start playing. If you want fully digital you can still buy it on the eshop. This option at least gives the ability to resell or share with others.
@Ultimapunch there is its called a voting slip! Unfortunately its Squid Game rules and the majority of your fellow americans voted for mutually assured destruction.
@StewdaMegaManNerd I’m fine with it being a physical collector. I expect something that has a manufacturing stage to cost more, as long as the physical has a nice look and feel to it and ideally a manual!
@Oracles_fanboi Nintendo have no control over what retailers do regarding preventing scalpers so maybe a big part of that will be limiting how much goes to retailers and Nintendo selling more directly which they can control.
When you break it down they're not really saying anything beyond, you need the new console to play this. If they have as leaked 20m Switch 2 units over the launch window, and MK9 is a launch title the attach rate will be higher than the 45% MK8 is on Switch. So you're talking 10m+ copies in the first year which probably put it just behind GTAVI this year. I doubt Nintendo will be too upset by that.
While it would be great from a consumer perspective to promote what is left to be released on Switch 1 and provide some reassurance that it will be supported. From a business perspective the messaging that you don't need to upgrade to Switch 2 right away isn't the best idea.
@robotreptile Ninja Five-O is a bit of a hidden gem and one of those stupidly expensive things to collect if you're a GBA collector. They are probably trying to capitalise on that and it will be down to a few £ in no time
The biggest one which no one has mentioned is Fortnite. I don’t play it but assume switch players are at a disadvantage to those on PC when it comes to building?
@Servbot_EJ I think this is a nailed on release. id Tech is pretty flexible. But it will be telling for MS if they need a third party to port it for them.
@N00BiSH they(MS) let toys for bob go as a separate entity and then signed a deal with them to develop one of their IP. I’m hoping it’s this, and seeing as Xbox is now primarily a software dev there’s a good chance they will stick it on Switch 2!
@PinballBuzzbro I'd be happy if it was AC:Shadows at least close to launch. But if it's some time in 2026 when we've all already forgotten about it whats the point. Overall though its a shame if Ubi cant realise their best outings are games that are made with devices like the Switch at least partly in mind rather than the shallow graphical showpieces they churn out for the main consoles.
@Mothertroid its the initial teaser so probably 2-3 minutes with a name and release. We will see games but we wont get until after is the Direct style look into games, if the launch is April/May we wont have to wait long for it. Looking back the launch trailer for Switch had at least 4 games in it so we should get a good idea of the key launch games.
@Bolt_Strike saying theyre basically the same is over simplifying it. The vast majority of people will find a handheld PC a bit fiddly to use, this is true for the Steam Deck with its custom frontend. Then you add in a windows desktop it is just unusable for most.
You're underplaying the value of Nintendo's first party IP there too.
@Not_Soos great synopsis for the channel, couldn't agree more. There are some great retro gaming channels and this is one of the best. Mort's Garage is pretty cool too very wholesome and beyond the usual going to garage sales and collecting explores the nature of collecting and why people collect etc
I think it is something close to what they are going for if not a 100% accurate leak. I've heard a lot of podcasts/talk shows refer to how Nintendo always likes to have a big hook/differentiator for each generation but I think that has been overstated slightly. In terms of consoles its on really the Wii and the Switch that made a significant change(Wii U was iterative of the Wii so not really counting it) so can see them wanting to stick with a winning formula right now. It is different enough to the competition still I think even with them trying to find a way into the same market.
@Ryu_Niiyama that's only valid if Nintendo doesn't come in with a price hike on the Switch 2. If the Switch 2 is £300-£350/$350-400 they will clean up. But if they increase it they will need to drop the price through its life cycle.
@Apebitmusic you would hope it has been improved in the last 3 years. The trailers look good in that regard, whereas the LA ones you could see a bit of a frame drop
@Spider-Kev pretty sure Jim Ryan quoted the higher number just before he retired. I’m sure it was entirely accurate and in no way to retain his legacy of having the highest selling console.
@Pillowpants yeah I cant see anyone buying a Switch for EoW on its own. Maybe there will be a small number of girls who having Zelda be playable will be a gateway into gaming for them. And the custom Lite will sell out to collectors if not new players I'm sure.
Voted NES, just hits the right nostalgia buttons for me (even though I never had one as a kid). They just look nicer than SNES or N64 to me as a collectible. I have a lot of love for the Game Boy(all iterations) too. the newer ones are just memory cards to me so wouldn't buy any of those without a box.
Would be happy for free content updates(paid seems a bit of a push all things considered) for those that have bought it. Hopefully it gets the sales as would love to see other consoles getting a version.
@PikminMarioKirby I think it will still be a Zelda game for the most part. I think the dungeon from the promo where Link falls through the crack will be playable then the rest will be Zelda. A bit like the opening to TOTK but in reverse where Zelda vanishes.
Playing 3 on Steam Deck and can’t see why you wouldn’t get a version that runs ok on Switch. It’s the only one I’ve played the remix and 358/2 days naming confuses me and I’ll never get through all of them so will play this and wait for 4!
@FreasurePlanten I’m hoping there’s a bit of optimisation between now and launch. Demos are normally a few builds behind the current and there’s no set release date so could be it’s an early build. Game looks lovely though otherwise.
@NinjaNicky that’s a good idea, particularly if it fits the existing dock. I can’t see them deviating too far apart in terms of different devices. It doesnt seem very Nintendo.
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Re: Nintendo Expects To Sell 15 Million Switch 2 Consoles This Financial Year
@Duncanballs yeah that’s why I was thinking a price drop after having given SW2 time to get a following. I think a bigger problem would be production being cheap enough to achieve a cheap lite model.
Re: Nintendo Expects To Sell 15 Million Switch 2 Consoles This Financial Year
If they could find a way to get a £99/$99 Switch out there in a year or so's time once the S2 is established and hopefully the Tariffs are gone. Could see them easily topping the PS2.
Re: Nintendo Expects To Sell 15 Million Switch 2 Consoles This Financial Year
@SwitchplayerJohn only estimated by the rumour mill. This is Nintendo's own forecasting.
Re: Final Fantasy VII 'Creator's Voice' Implies Rebirth May Also Come To Switch 2
@Grumblevolcano tbf to Square im fairly sure they did a multi disc release for the PS5 version of rebirth with the whole game. So hopefully they do the same here.
Re: Store Listing Suggests Switch 2 Joy-Con Might Be Customisable
@-wc- I think its probably more designed in a way that N can easily change these parts and the stick bases for easy custom joycons that keep the sleek black look.
Re: Poll: Which Switch 2 Accessories Are You Picking Up At Launch?
Got a Micro SD and GC controller on order. Will pick up a carrying case too
Re: Nintendo Confirms Upgrade Pack Price For Two More 'Switch 2 Edition' Titles
@The-Chosen-one the two LoZ games are free with NSO+. Kirby and Mario Party have DLC too.
They could have included the S2 upgrade with NSO and had a DLC only option but that would get confusing.
I dont think their plans for S2 upgrades is too bad, some stuff is paid some on NSO and some free.
Re: 'Spine' Brings Gun-Fu To Switch 2
@JohnnyMind I’m the same, not necessarily my jam unless it reviews really well. But what I do like is the start of indies that wouldn’t be feasible on S1 start to be announced for the new console.
Re: "Nintendo Has Been A Great Partner" - Phil Spencer Reiterates Switch 2 Support
@The-Chosen-one June 8th I think. Sunday after the Switch 2 launches.
Re: "Nintendo Has Been A Great Partner" - Phil Spencer Reiterates Switch 2 Support
Looking forward to seeing how many Switch 2 logos appear in the Xbox Showcase. I was surprised to only see THPS3+4 in the Direct. Hopefully we will see some others before then.
FWIW I think splitting up the MCC would be a mistake, but it would make an ideal candidate for the game key cart as you will want to pick and choose what games you have installed.
Re: UK Retailer GAME Is Selling Off Goods And Fixtures As Head Office Shuts Down
@Jedge396 you should be ok, in essence you purchased it from frasers group who are still operating they just sold it under the Game brand name.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@HammerKirby I think in part it’s just Nintendo pulling back the curtain and being transparent how many games are physical but not containing the whole game and require a download, but in doing so offers a cheaper option to manufacturers that is more desirable than a code in a box(I’m hoping this isn’t an option at all).
I’m a physical collector too so can’t say it’s my preferred approach but we have to be pragmatic unfortunately.
Re: Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Aren't Tied To Nintendo Accounts
@Flugen code in a box is pointless, its an empty box with no additional value the second you start playing. If you want fully digital you can still buy it on the eshop.
This option at least gives the ability to resell or share with others.
Re: Switch 2 Devs May Assign Specific Inputs To Pro Controller's Back Buttons
@Ultimapunch there is its called a voting slip! Unfortunately its Squid Game rules and the majority of your fellow americans voted for mutually assured destruction.
Re: Digital Switch 2 Games Being Cheaper Than Physical Is A "Challenge", Says Retailer GAME
@StewdaMegaManNerd I’m fine with it being a physical collector. I expect something that has a manufacturing stage to cost more, as long as the physical has a nice look and feel to it and ideally a manual!
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
Seems pointless charging
Re: Nintendo Drops Teaser Video For The Switch 2's 'C' Button
I think Cursor mode is more likely(as in mouse control).
I cant see any clever casting that requires you to have a Switch
Re: Switch 2 Pre-Orders Expected To Sell Out "Day One" Due To Limited Unit Allocation
@Oracles_fanboi Nintendo have no control over what retailers do regarding preventing scalpers so maybe a big part of that will be limiting how much goes to retailers and Nintendo selling more directly which they can control.
Re: Ex-Nintendo Duo Unsure Mario Kart 9 Will Be An Instant "Slam Dunk" For Switch 2
When you break it down they're not really saying anything beyond, you need the new console to play this. If they have as leaked 20m Switch 2 units over the launch window, and MK9 is a launch title the attach rate will be higher than the 45% MK8 is on Switch. So you're talking 10m+ copies in the first year which probably put it just behind GTAVI this year. I doubt Nintendo will be too upset by that.
Re: Minecraft's Latest Update Is Now Live, Here Are The Patch Notes
I assume this isn't the fancy new graphical update?
Re: Nintendo Direct April 2025: Time, Where To Watch, What To Expect On Switch 2
Those in the UK worth noting that the countdown timer points to a 1pm start as the clocks go forward this weekend!
Re: Rumour: A Switch 1 Direct Presentation May Take Place This Week
While it would be great from a consumer perspective to promote what is left to be released on Switch 1 and provide some reassurance that it will be supported. From a business perspective the messaging that you don't need to upgrade to Switch 2 right away isn't the best idea.
Re: A Hidden 60fps Mode In Xenoblade Chronicles X Gives Us Hope For A Switch 2 Upgrade
@RaTheGrey well I'm hoping this would set a precedent that recent games at least get this as a free upgrade. Which sadly isnt very Nintendo.
Re: AI Upscaling On Nintendo Switch 2 Is Basically Real Thanks To Updated Patent
@Anti-Matter likely won’t boost but could say get BotW running with AI upscaling at 60fps. Jury’s out on if it would be 1080P or 4K!
Re: We're Losing Our Minds Over This New Retro 'Terminator 2' Game
@Tasuki several crappy T2 games in fairness! I still have the arcade game with the super scope!
Re: Konami Adds Incredibly Rare Slice Of GBA Ninja History To The Switch eShop
@robotreptile Ninja Five-O is a bit of a hidden gem and one of those stupidly expensive things to collect if you're a GBA collector.
They are probably trying to capitalise on that and it will be down to a few £ in no time
Re: Feature: Switch 2's Mouse Support Is Exciting, But Which Current Games Might Also Benefit?
The biggest one which no one has mentioned is Fortnite. I don’t play it but assume switch players are at a disadvantage to those on PC when it comes to building?
Re: Oops, The Next DOOM Game's Release Date Appears To Have Been Leaked
@Servbot_EJ I think this is a nailed on release. id Tech is pretty flexible. But it will be telling for MS if they need a third party to port it for them.
Re: Banjo-Kazooie Has The Potential To "Rival 3D Mario", Says Ori Dev
@N00BiSH they(MS) let toys for bob go as a separate entity and then signed a deal with them to develop one of their IP. I’m hoping it’s this, and seeing as Xbox is now primarily a software dev there’s a good chance they will stick it on Switch 2!
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft Has "More Than Half A Dozen Games" Planned For Switch 2
@PinballBuzzbro I'd be happy if it was AC:Shadows at least close to launch. But if it's some time in 2026 when we've all already forgotten about it whats the point.
Overall though its a shame if Ubi cant realise their best outings are games that are made with devices like the Switch at least partly in mind rather than the shallow graphical showpieces they churn out for the main consoles.
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD (Switch) - Aping A Retro Classic
@sixrings I bought what I see as the same game on 3DS for £8 the other day. Seems hard for them to justify the cost for this "HD" version.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Will Reportedly Be Officially Revealed This Thursday
@Mothertroid its the initial teaser so probably 2-3 minutes with a name and release. We will see games but we wont get until after is the Direct style look into games, if the launch is April/May we wont have to wait long for it. Looking back the launch trailer for Switch had at least 4 games in it so we should get a good idea of the key launch games.
Re: Opinion: It's Not My GOTY, But This Nintendo Game Was A Standout 2024 Memory
@ikki5 I’m still hopeful it will have done well enough to get a sequel
Re: Surprise Leak Reveals Lenovo Is Releasing Another Switch-Like Gaming Handheld
@Bolt_Strike saying theyre basically the same is over simplifying it. The vast majority of people will find a handheld PC a bit fiddly to use, this is true for the Steam Deck with its custom frontend. Then you add in a windows desktop it is just unusable for most.
You're underplaying the value of Nintendo's first party IP there too.
Re: Talking Point: After A September No-Show, Will There Be An October Nintendo Direct?
I always thought September would be a reach with Zelda coming out.
Fingers crossed it will be soon, it has to be soon right?!
Re: Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom's Overworld Appears To Include Links To The Past
So what your saying is a LTTP remake in the style of this/LA wouldn’t be hugely difficult?
Re: Random: Spare A Thought For The Kid Whose Dad Returned Zelda: A Link To The Past
@Not_Soos great synopsis for the channel, couldn't agree more. There are some great retro gaming channels and this is one of the best. Mort's Garage is pretty cool too very wholesome and beyond the usual going to garage sales and collecting explores the nature of collecting and why people collect etc
Re: Talking Point: So Then, Is This 'Switch 2' Leak Legit?
I think it is something close to what they are going for if not a 100% accurate leak. I've heard a lot of podcasts/talk shows refer to how Nintendo always likes to have a big hook/differentiator for each generation but I think that has been overstated slightly. In terms of consoles its on really the Wii and the Switch that made a significant change(Wii U was iterative of the Wii so not really counting it) so can see them wanting to stick with a winning formula right now. It is different enough to the competition still I think even with them trying to find a way into the same market.
Re: Soapbox: Sony's Insane PS5 Pro Price Highlights The Delicate Balance Nintendo Must Strike With 'Switch 2'
@Ryu_Niiyama that's only valid if Nintendo doesn't come in with a price hike on the Switch 2. If the Switch 2 is £300-£350/$350-400 they will clean up. But if they increase it they will need to drop the price through its life cycle.
Re: Hands On: Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Brings Tantalising Creativity To The 2D Template
@Apebitmusic you would hope it has been improved in the last 3 years. The trailers look good in that regard, whereas the LA ones you could see a bit of a frame drop
Re: Switch On Track To Surpass PS2's Lifetime Sales In The US
@Spider-Kev pretty sure Jim Ryan quoted the higher number just before he retired. I’m sure it was entirely accurate and in no way to retain his legacy of having the highest selling console.
Re: Nintendo Switch Sales Hit 143 Million As Hardware And Software Figures Decline
@Pillowpants yeah I cant see anyone buying a Switch for EoW on its own. Maybe there will be a small number of girls who having Zelda be playable will be a gateway into gaming for them. And the custom Lite will sell out to collectors if not new players I'm sure.
Re: Poll: Which Is Your Favourite Nintendo Game Cartridge Design?
Voted NES, just hits the right nostalgia buttons for me (even though I never had one as a kid). They just look nicer than SNES or N64 to me as a collectible. I have a lot of love for the Game Boy(all iterations) too. the newer ones are just memory cards to me so wouldn't buy any of those without a box.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition?
Would be happy for free content updates(paid seems a bit of a push all things considered) for those that have bought it.
Hopefully it gets the sales as would love to see other consoles getting a version.
Re: Link Will Be Playable In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom, According To New ESRB Rating
@PikminMarioKirby I think it will still be a Zelda game for the most part. I think the dungeon from the promo where Link falls through the crack will be playable then the rest will be Zelda. A bit like the opening to TOTK but in reverse where Zelda vanishes.
Re: Video: What Order Should You Play Kingdom Hearts?
Playing 3 on Steam Deck and can’t see why you wouldn’t get a version that runs ok on Switch.
It’s the only one I’ve played the remix and 358/2 days naming confuses me and I’ll never get through all of them so will play this and wait for 4!
Re: Review: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Arcade: Wrath Of The Mutants (Switch) - Coin-Op Co-Op Cowabummer
@ozwally because they're cheap and make it quickly.
This is a pointless game when you had shredders revenge and the cowabunga collection already,
Re: Europa Is A Beautiful Adventure Game With Shades Of Studio Ghibli And Breath Of The Wild
@FreasurePlanten I’m hoping there’s a bit of optimisation between now and launch. Demos are normally a few builds behind the current and there’s no set release date so could be it’s an early build.
Game looks lovely though otherwise.
Re: Europa Is A Beautiful Adventure Game With Shades Of Studio Ghibli And Breath Of The Wild
Playing the demo now, is it me or does it look weirdly blurry?
Re: Mailbox: A More Powerful, Digital-Only 'Switch 2' And "Obscurer" Treasures - Nintendo Life Letters
@NinjaNicky that’s a good idea, particularly if it fits the existing dock.
I can’t see them deviating too far apart in terms of different devices. It doesnt seem very Nintendo.