@Kal_el_0724 It's a new version how does it do anything but provide consumers with more options? It may not be one you like, but ultimately you're correct its USP is the main selling point. As well as being a simplified SKU that is more ideal for kids.
@Jester151 Thats the pro/XL/, it will come but needs a title to launch alongside it and cant see at the moment what they would launch alongside it(as in a big Nintendo system seller not a port) that would have a noticeable difference in graphics than other switch models other than maybe either Bayonetta or Metroid P4. The former could work and may be why they are tight lipped about it so far.
@Damo Ah fair enough I didnt realise it was a proprietary connector assumed it was some form of USB.
@60frames-please I think you're right if they get it right. As long as they position it is a kids/secondary model (and dont give it any functionality that the Switch original doesnt have). From a marketing perspective they dont want people moaning that they are having to buy all of these extras, so it needs to be clear this is for you if you dont want/neex those features. ie for kids who just want to play Fortnite and Pokemon and are on an upgrade path from the handhelds not the physical consoles or a multi device household where you already have the dock/joy-cons available.
@Damo in fairness a lot of companies keep the costs down by not including a charger/psu these days as if its using USB power the assumption is you already have one. Big N and Sony did the same thing with the mini consoles and things like the Kindle or Chromecast dont have them either.
Making a device that fundamentally changes its functionality(no joy con sharing, not table top, no motion controls, additional controller needed for docked play) is a bit different. Even compared to the 3DS>2DS your taking away a universal feature that doesnt really affect gameplay not making certain games unplayable(at least without buying additional hardware)
That being said I dont think its out of the realms of possibility that they would do this but the cost savings for the consumer would need to be significant enough to make it worthwhile.
If they do go down this road I'd love to see them expand the functionality for party/group/active games and add optional functionality for Wiimotes(would only need a IR detector), Wii U game pads and the balance board.
@FarkyValentine was that ever on the cards, when they restarted the project a few months ago? I’d reset your expectations for next e3 at best. Knowing Nintendo they’ll not rush this after the issues around this game.
@BionicDodo it was a clever move the price is so cheap a lot of people will probably do this. Effectively a £3 demo to entice people into buying the version with the popular characters and removing any barriers to the difficult looking game itself.
@Supadav03 this is the thing, it’s not that they don’t look like the MCU it’s that they don’t look like the characters at all. Comics, cartoons, films(mcu and all that came before it) the characters were recognisable.
Indeed, bucking the trend of the other devs who were touting a lot of 2020 games this Direct should be all/mostly 2019 games(with gameplay and release dates) and some surprise DLC. Obviously Zelda tease would be immense but think they will hold off until the Jan direct to separate from the Christmas marketing.
@apoqalypse 100% that is something they could and would sue over. That is much more open and shut as a recipe is quantifiable, compared to a leak around the contents of a presentation.
And this leaker is getting their info from somewhere so in one way or another is facilitating the breaking of a confidentiality agreement.
Nice renders, but completely redundant functionality wise. Why increase costs for the "up" part with the proprietary dock, but not have removable joy cons? That and the mini thumbtacks aside its a nice design.
Lots of people work 100+ hour weeks. Particularly when there is a public facing deadline like a launch of a game. This is heightened by being funded by a major publisher of course.
It’s the eyes they make the character model look like a cheap knockoff. I saw (possibly on here) someone redrew the character with the eyes joined together like the original and it looked vaguely passable. Provided the story was decent of course!
@Laxeybobby my only hope is they are producing it on 32GB cards to avoid the massive download. But no reason why they wouldn’t do that in the US too so not much hope! Only thing I can think of is they are doing it for parts of Europe where a 22gb download may hurt sales.
I’m happy with how that looks, I think I’ll wait to see if the European physical release is komplete or needs the 15gb download. If it does I’ll wait until it’s on sale.
It’s a weird time of year to launch something like this, I feel like it would get more traction as a Xmas release. Perfect for a grandparent to buy as it has the building element.
I was really looking forward to this, it remains to be seen if I’ll be buying now. If it’s similar to Smash where it’s a complete game with the addition of DLC. Or if it’s like the Power Rangers game where there are only a few playable characters and lots of DLC/Season Passes(which is fine in a free game). If the whole game isn’t on the cart i don’t think I’ll buy it my general rule is a full price game is always a physical purchase. But if there comes a point where I need to maintain an SD card with patches on to stop the cart being superfluous it’s not a physical purchase.
@DavidMac how dreadfully patronising. Rest assured I took on board what you said and made my point why I think they may take a different path. All in the spirit of a good natured discussion around a common pastime. As you seem to have assumed what you are saying is some kind of truth, even though we are discussing the specifications of a hypothetical product I’m going to take my leave here and suggest you cast that critical eye on your own comments. Have a nice day.
@DavidMac I know just exercising my right to disagree If it means cheaper internals and the ability to make it $10 cheaper to consumers it makes sense. They need an upgrade path to keep the switch classic(and pro) still appealing in its own right. But hey it’s all hypothetical until Bowser shows us something new(and a price tag!).
@DavidMac you could leave in the usb c connectivity and ability to charge but use a chipset that has none of the display functionality. As others have said it ceases to be a switch at that point, but as an SKU it makes sense to make a sealed handheld.
@AlohaPizzaJack yeah I'm not sure I want to play a game where your dog dies regularly! It probably didn't help my dog decided to come over to be petted about 5 seconds after the bear killed the dog on screen.
@Fake-E-Lee same here, unfortunately having to become a grown up meant I don’t think I’d had a console for 4/5 years until this Xmas just gone. I’ve no real interest in another expensive iterative console. Google or Msoft really need to do something gamechanging to get my attention. I’d wager this is a common train of thought for a lot of Nintendo players.
It's a shame for the people who bought a Switch with this game in mind. My young cousin got one for Xmas as an alternative to hogging the family iMac, now won't be able to play with his friends.
@Dogorilla because what you can’t do is redownload them on a different device once the store shuts down and your switch breaks. What you also can’t do is buy 2nd hand games or get a refund easily if the game is poorly made.
@RupeeClock This is what I'm expecting, there's no way they're not going to string out the reveals to keep you on the hook until November(ish) when it comes out. I'd expect name, the key selling points and a few limited screenshots. If you resign yourself to the bare minimum you won't be dissapointed!
@Beolleika It looks as if the Resi Evil ports are going to be mostly digital(0&1 physical but us only it appears) so it wouldn’t be a surprise to see this do the same. Although I’d love a physical release for all of them.
@smashboy2000 I haven't played an MK game properly for some time but the one thing that did appeal about the latter incarnations was the introduction of other horror characters. Add in the ones you mentioned along with Freddy, Michael Myers and a few others and you're on your way to a horror SSB!
I’d wager they will have a staggered system, base price will have NES and hopefully SNES. Then a premium for N64 and GC titles. Not sure where GBA would fit into that though!
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Re: Nintendo Switch Lite Officially Revealed, Launches This September
@Kal_el_0724
It's a new version how does it do anything but provide consumers with more options? It may not be one you like, but ultimately you're correct its USP is the main selling point. As well as being a simplified SKU that is more ideal for kids.
Re: Daemon X Machina's Orbital Limited Edition Comes With A Statue, Steelbook And More
@RickD sold!
Re: Cuphead 'The Delicious Last Course' DLC Delayed Until 2020, New Teaser Trailer Shared
@BlueKnight07 other way round physical will be delayed to coincide with DLC as others have said.
As far as I’m aware we don’t have a release date.
Re: Is This Our First Real Look At Nintendo Switch Mini?
@Jester151 Thats the pro/XL/, it will come but needs a title to launch alongside it and cant see at the moment what they would launch alongside it(as in a big Nintendo system seller not a port) that would have a noticeable difference in graphics than other switch models other than maybe either Bayonetta or Metroid P4. The former could work and may be why they are tight lipped about it so far.
Re: Is This Our First Real Look At Nintendo Switch Mini?
@Damo Ah fair enough I didnt realise it was a proprietary connector assumed it was some form of USB.
@60frames-please I think you're right if they get it right. As long as they position it is a kids/secondary model (and dont give it any functionality that the Switch original doesnt have). From a marketing perspective they dont want people moaning that they are having to buy all of these extras, so it needs to be clear this is for you if you dont want/neex those features. ie for kids who just want to play Fortnite and Pokemon and are on an upgrade path from the handhelds not the physical consoles or a multi device household where you already have the dock/joy-cons available.
Re: Is This Our First Real Look At Nintendo Switch Mini?
@Damo in fairness a lot of companies keep the costs down by not including a charger/psu these days as if its using USB power the assumption is you already have one. Big N and Sony did the same thing with the mini consoles and things like the Kindle or Chromecast dont have them either.
Making a device that fundamentally changes its functionality(no joy con sharing, not table top, no motion controls, additional controller needed for docked play) is a bit different. Even compared to the 3DS>2DS your taking away a universal feature that doesnt really affect gameplay not making certain games unplayable(at least without buying additional hardware)
That being said I dont think its out of the realms of possibility that they would do this but the cost savings for the consumer would need to be significant enough to make it worthwhile.
If they do go down this road I'd love to see them expand the functionality for party/group/active games and add optional functionality for Wiimotes(would only need a IR detector), Wii U game pads and the balance board.
Re: Pre-Orders Now Live For Hori's Dragon Quest Slime And Daemon X Machina Switch Controllers
Is be tempted by the DxM ones if it was usable as an external controller
Re: Spyro Reignited Trilogy To Require Additional Download In North America, But Not Europe?
MK11 also lacked any download notice. This still had the 16gb day one download as the others.
Re: Nintendo Shares Colourful Graphic Outlining Upcoming Switch Releases
@FarkyValentine was that ever on the cards, when they restarted the project a few months ago? I’d reset your expectations for next e3 at best. Knowing Nintendo they’ll not rush this after the issues around this game.
Re: The Original Crypt Of The NecroDancer Is 80% Off As Cadence Of Hyrule Arrives On Switch
@BionicDodo it was a clever move the price is so cheap a lot of people will probably do this. Effectively a £3 demo to entice people into buying the version with the popular characters and removing any barriers to the difficult looking game itself.
Re: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 Gets A Cred Boost After Fans See Square's Effort
@Supadav03 this is the thing, it’s not that they don’t look like the MCU it’s that they don’t look like the characters at all. Comics, cartoons, films(mcu and all that came before it) the characters were recognisable.
Re: Nintendo's Market Value Drops By $1 Billion After Animal Crossing Switch Delay
@MegaMari0 yup it amazes me how negatively these markets react to rumours not being true.
Re: Feature: Nintendo E3 2019 - What Are You Hoping For?
Indeed, bucking the trend of the other devs who were touting a lot of 2020 games this Direct should be all/mostly 2019 games(with gameplay and release dates) and some surprise DLC.
Obviously Zelda tease would be immense but think they will hold off until the Jan direct to separate from the Christmas marketing.
Re: Nintendo Takes Legal Action On Prolific E3 Leaker Ahead Of Tomorrow's Direct
@apoqalypse 100% that is something they could and would sue over. That is much more open and shut as a recipe is quantifiable, compared to a leak around the contents of a presentation.
And this leaker is getting their info from somewhere so in one way or another is facilitating the breaking of a confidentiality agreement.
Re: Virtua Racing And Wonder Boy: Monster Land Arrive In The West At The End Of June
@Carck This sums it all up really, looks like a great port
Re: Random: We Really Hope The New Nintendo Switch Looks Like This
Nice renders, but completely redundant functionality wise.
Why increase costs for the "up" part with the proprietary dock, but not have removable joy cons?
That and the mini thumbtacks aside its a nice design.
Re: Super Mario Maker 2 Nintendo Direct Airing Tomorrow, 15th May
@chardir I guess it’s easy to hide, with everyone looking towards e3.
Either that or the leaks came from Reggie!😂
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 Dev NetherRealm Studios Responds To Toxic Workplace Accusations
Lots of people work 100+ hour weeks. Particularly when there is a public facing deadline like a launch of a game. This is heightened by being funded by a major publisher of course.
Re: Talking Point: Not Appealing To Gamers First Is A Dangerous Strategy For The Sonic Movie
It’s the eyes they make the character model look like a cheap knockoff. I saw (possibly on here) someone redrew the character with the eyes joined together like the original and it looked vaguely passable. Provided the story was decent of course!
Re: Review: Mortal Kombat 11 - A Satisfying Dose Of Comic Hyper-Violence Despite Loot Balance Issues
@Laxeybobby my only hope is they are producing it on 32GB cards to avoid the massive download. But no reason why they wouldn’t do that in the US too so not much hope! Only thing I can think of is they are doing it for parts of Europe where a 22gb download may hurt sales.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (April 20th)
Only just bought BotW so that! If I hadn’t it would have been cuphead
Re: Sega Ages Virtua Racing Speeds Onto The Japanese eShop Next Week
Why is there no western release date? I assume they want to test the online first?
One more that would love to see Daytona, Rally or GT although the licensed cars may be an issue on the latter 2
Re: Video: Here's The Mortal Kombat 11 Gameplay Reveal For Nintendo Switch
I’m happy with how that looks, I think I’ll wait to see if the European physical release is komplete or needs the 15gb download. If it does I’ll wait until it’s on sale.
Re: UK Charts: Nintendo Labo VR Fails To Enter Top 40, Yoshi Slips Down To Fifth Place
It’s a weird time of year to launch something like this, I feel like it would get more traction as a Xmas release. Perfect for a grandparent to buy as it has the building element.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aimé Opens His Own Official Twitter Account After Retiring As Nintendo Boss
@neufel I assume he paid for it. Surely someone had @reggie before now?
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 Day-One Patch Will Be More Than Double The Size Of Base Game, Says Data Miner
I was really looking forward to this, it remains to be seen if I’ll be buying now.
If it’s similar to Smash where it’s a complete game with the addition of DLC. Or if it’s like the Power Rangers game where there are only a few playable characters and lots of DLC/Season Passes(which is fine in a free game).
If the whole game isn’t on the cart i don’t think I’ll buy it my general rule is a full price game is always a physical purchase. But if there comes a point where I need to maintain an SD card with patches on to stop the cart being superfluous it’s not a physical purchase.
Re: Rumour: This Year's 'Budget' Switch Could Take The 2DS Route And Ditch A Killer Feature
@DavidMac how dreadfully patronising.
Rest assured I took on board what you said and made my point why I think they may take a different path. All in the spirit of a good natured discussion around a common pastime. As you seem to have assumed what you are saying is some kind of truth, even though we are discussing the specifications of a hypothetical product I’m going to take my leave here and suggest you cast that critical eye on your own comments. Have a nice day.
Re: Rumour: This Year's 'Budget' Switch Could Take The 2DS Route And Ditch A Killer Feature
@DavidMac I know just exercising my right to disagree
If it means cheaper internals and the ability to make it $10 cheaper to consumers it makes sense. They need an upgrade path to keep the switch classic(and pro) still appealing in its own right.
But hey it’s all hypothetical until Bowser shows us something new(and a price tag!).
Re: Rumour: This Year's 'Budget' Switch Could Take The 2DS Route And Ditch A Killer Feature
@DavidMac you could leave in the usb c connectivity and ability to charge but use a chipset that has none of the display functionality.
As others have said it ceases to be a switch at that point, but as an SKU it makes sense to make a sealed handheld.
Re: The Lord Of The Rings: Gollum Could Come To Switch, My Precious
@nintendolie other way round your typical RPG characters are based on LOTR!
Re: The Red Lantern Slides Onto Switch Later This Year
@AlohaPizzaJack yeah I'm not sure I want to play a game where your dog dies regularly! It probably didn't help my dog decided to come over to be petted about 5 seconds after the bear killed the dog on screen.
Re: Nindies Showcase Officially Announced For Wednesday, 20th March
One more for My Friend Pedro! It was due in Q1 2019 so fingers crossed for an “out later today” release date!
Re: Talking Point: Should Nintendo Be Concerned About Google's Play For Gamers?
@Fake-E-Lee same here, unfortunately having to become a grown up meant I don’t think I’d had a console for 4/5 years until this Xmas just gone.
I’ve no real interest in another expensive iterative console. Google or Msoft really need to do something gamechanging to get my attention. I’d wager this is a common train of thought for a lot of Nintendo players.
Re: Review: Turok - A Slice Of FPS History That's Still Worth Hunting Down In 2019
@nofriendo I’d say it’s because this era of 3D was the first iteration as well. It markedly improved on ps2/GameCube/Xbox
Re: Fortnite Players On Switch Will No Longer Be Matched With Xbox One And PS4 Cross-Play Parties
@eRaz0r to be honest I've barely played the game. Thanks for the info!
Re: Fortnite Players On Switch Will No Longer Be Matched With Xbox One And PS4 Cross-Play Parties
It's a shame for the people who bought a Switch with this game in mind. My young cousin got one for Xmas as an alternative to hogging the family iMac, now won't be able to play with his friends.
Re: Talking Point: Could Nintendo Ditch Physical Media With A 'Switch Lite?'
@Dogorilla because what you can’t do is redownload them on a different device once the store shuts down and your switch breaks. What you also can’t do is buy 2nd hand games or get a refund easily if the game is poorly made.
Re: Pokémon Direct Officially Confirmed For Tomorrow, 27th February
@RupeeClock This is what I'm expecting, there's no way they're not going to string out the reveals to keep you on the hook until November(ish) when it comes out. I'd expect name, the key selling points and a few limited screenshots. If you resign yourself to the bare minimum you won't be dissapointed!
Re: Saints Row: The Third - The Full Package Secures May Release Date On Switch
@Beolleika
It looks as if the Resi Evil ports are going to be mostly digital(0&1 physical but us only it appears) so it wouldn’t be a surprise to see this do the same. Although I’d love a physical release for all of them.
Re: Rumour: New Mortal Kombat 11 Characters Possibly Leaked Thanks To Steam Achievement List
@smashboy2000 I haven't played an MK game properly for some time but the one thing that did appeal about the latter incarnations was the introduction of other horror characters. Add in the ones you mentioned along with Freddy, Michael Myers and a few others and you're on your way to a horror SSB!
Re: Here's Your First Look At Some Lovely GRID Autosport Switch Screenshots
Will be interesting to see if they are porting the mobile version or the console one.
Re: Rumour: Dataminer Uncovers SNES Games For Nintendo Switch Online Service
I’d wager they will have a staggered system, base price will have NES and hopefully SNES. Then a premium for N64 and GC titles. Not sure where GBA would fit into that though!