
Recently, we asked you if $499 would be too much to pay for a 'Switch 2'. 20% of respondees said 'nope', nearly 30% thought it would be too much, and the majority (rather sensibly) said that it would depend on how big of an upgrade Nintendo's next generation of hardware represented.
Yesterday Sony pulled back the curtain on the long-rumoured PS5 Pro, an iterative update to its existing console which offers a spec-bump that, as Mark Cerny said in his presentation, looks to close the gap between performance and fidelity modes. Showcasing a modest but noticeable boost (at least when zooming in on the pixels as the presentation did) to several games in Sony's back catalogue — including Marvel's Spider-Man 2 (2023), Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart (2021), and The Last of Us II Remastered (2024) — the price was then revealed: $699 / £699 / €799.
Our friends over at Push Square have the full details and what's included with this new half-step system, but the long and short of it is:
- upgraded GPU
- better ray tracing
- some AI-upscaling
- 2TB SSD
- disc drive and stand are not included
For comparison, the base PS5 (slim) currently costs $450 for the digital version and $500 with the optional disc drive bundled. The non-slim, digital-only PS5 launched in 2020 for $399, with the built-in disc drive version commanding a $100 premium.
Now, this product is clearly aimed at Sony's hardcore fanbase, but that's 700 bucks/quid — and a staggering €800 in Europe — for the Pro experience. Mileage will vary on whether you think slightly better-looking background crowds in the (impressive) 2021 Ratchet game is worth the investment, but even the hardest of core PlayStation users will have to swallow hard before shelling out. It feels like after years of living in fear of "$599 USD" meme mockery, Sony finally ripped off the band-aid and told console players to buck up for massive outlays in the years to come.

What has any of this got to do with Switch users, you ask? Well, in several ways, the negative reaction puts a microscope on the incredibly thin tightrope Nintendo will be walking with its 'Switch 2' pricing.
We'll discuss inflation in a moment, but the core issue here seems to be one of value proposition - how much of an upgrade the hardware represents. If Sony were presenting PS6, with a suite of new, dedicated software and features showcasing a generational leap, I don't believe the reaction would be the same.
That's not to say everyone would be happy to pay 700 notes for their next PlayStation, but it would be a different pitch. Indeed, if PS6 launches in a couple of years at $700 for the base model, it might even seem like decent value. Throw a disc drive, stand, and an extra DualSensePlus+ in your launch-day cart, and you won't be getting much change out of a grand for your next-gen system.
Delivering even PS4 Pro-level performance in a Switch-sized tablet form for a reasonable price is going to be a mighty challenge.
And let's take a moment to remember poor Japan, which was recently hit with a $90-ish price hike for the base PS5 model. The weak yen is a factor for Japanese companies, with players taking the brunt of currency fluctuations and some suggesting that they're done with PS5. Nintendo has so far resisted price changes for Switch, and this latest episode from Sony highlights how surgical Nintendo must be with its pricing, at home and abroad.
As NL readers noted in our poll, if Switch 2 comes along with meaningful upgrades and really feels like a next-generation Switch, a higher price tag will be easier to stomach. The core issue with PS5 Pro is the huge disparity between the improvements the new hardware offers and the $250 premium Sony wants for it.

Geoff Keighley took to Twitter to highlight the adjusted-for-inflation costs of previous Sony hardware, which pegs PS5 Pro as the second most expensive system the company has ever put out (although one without a disc drive):
I get it, it's never been more expensive to develop and manufacture these things, and gaming has, in fact, been incredibly inflation-resistant from a consumer standpoint. It still represents the best value form of entertainment in my book, but with Switch 2 in particular, Nintendo has to come out with guns blazing and make a really compelling case for what's rumoured to be a Switch, but more powerful.
Certainly, nobody's expecting PS5-level specs from Switch 2, but the small form factor of portable hardware increases component costs. Delivering even PS4 Pro-level performance in a Switch-sized tablet form for a reasonable price is going to be a mighty challenge. Bespoke new Nintendo games will certainly make for a better pitch than slightly better-looking versions of already-great-looking games you've been playing for a year or two or three. But whispers that the screen in the new console may be a standard LCD affair and not an OLED display will give some people (like me) pause. 'So, the screen tech isn't as good as the one I've been playing since 2021? Hmm.'
After seven-and-a-half years of Switch, the enthusiasts among us are eager for new hardware, but Nintendo has always looked to appeal beyond that core fanship. If PS5 Pro's pricing tells us anything, it's that the vast majority of players will still baulk at anything over $500, whatever the inflation charts say. Cost-of-living issues have squeezed personal finances from every which way and something's got to give; necessarily, entertainment expenditure is the first to take a hit. It doesn't matter that PS3 cost the equivalent of $780 18 years ago - for most of us, $700 is still an enormous sum to contemplate spending on a machine to play video games.

For Switch owners, the convenience of the console paired with a stellar first-party software offering has helped — as it always does — to distract from low power and modest specs. You could argue that Switch should be far cheaper, but crucially Nintendo strikes the right balance with a value proposition that makes $500 for, say, a Switch OLED bundled with a Pro Controller and a couple of Marios feel like good value.
What Nintendo has in store remains to be seen, and with rumours flying thick and fast about a potential hardware reveal this month (which wouldn't make much sense from a Switch holiday sales perspective, but hey, it's Nintendo), the overwhelmingly negative reaction to Sony's hardware pricing announcements shows that Switch 2's pricing is going to be a very delicate, very difficult needle to thread.
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SIX HUNDRED AND NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS. At that price, I think Sony just sold more units of the Switch 2 than it'll ever sell of the PS5 Pro.
I saw a Reddit post earlier this morning saying you could buy every Mario RPG (including remakes) and it would be roughly the price of the PS5 Pro.
I don't think Nintendo has to worry that much. As long as the next system is under $500, I don't think price will be the reason for people to shy away from the Switch 2.
I'd read an article earlier in the day reporting a 'leaker' suggesting the top price was going to be £589, which was already firmly in my 'nope' range. But £699?
Has Putin got his claws in Sony now as well?
I was waiting for the PS5 Pro to upgrade from my PS4, but at THAT price — and without a disc drive — "I can do without the rock 'n roll," as Mick Shrimpton famously said.
It's amazing that they make you pay extra for the stand, a freaking piece of plastic that probably costs them next to nothing and was gratis for a vanilla PS5.
But if you compare it to a gaming PCs, it might be OK. If you buy a serious NVIDIA GPU, just for gaming, it's insane.
Well the price of the Switch Successor will seem cheap in comparison, thanks for helping Nintendo, Sony! 😆
I hope this sells poorly so they know power isn’t everything, and they can’t just scam people and get away with it.
Sony is DOOOOMED!
And AU$1,200 without a disc drive?! 😂
At that price, you'd be bonkers to buy an overpriced gaming console over a decent PC.
‘nearly 30% thought it would be too much (rather sensibly)’
FTFY
I don't think Nintendo has to worry. They will definitely offer us something completly worth it at a reasonable price. Especially when compared to the BS that is PS5 pro.
@gcunit £799 with an external disk drive!!
Their controllers cost a fortune too and the fact that no third party controllers exist because Sony releases patches to brick them is appalling. Not all games use the DualSense features.
I'd be very shocked if Nintendo launched at anywhere near this price
£700, plus another £100 for a disc drive, then the expensive subsciption for online play, and they have increased the price of the controller. My launch PS4 broke during the pandemic, I replaced it with a new slim and to be honest, it's good enough for me for most cross gen games at this point.
I bought a Switch Lite around the same time and it impressed me enough to get an OLED. I mostly moved to gaming on Switch and I'm certainly waiting to see how the follow up is priced, that pro is out of my range for a games console, for sure. I really hope Nintendo can balance decent performance and price, they usually do. Put it together with backwards compatibility and good support, and Switch 2 will be my go to console for quite a while I think.
I'm now going to predict Nintendo will sell their next console at $500, console gaming is just becoming more expensive just like games are and Nintendo are not immune to that reality
I sort of understand why the PS5 Pro is priced like it is with the components inside it, but the reality is it isn’t really giving a discernible difference for the money. It will play the same games as an original PS5, and will not make game production any cheaper, faster, or open avenues of creativity. The games will be held back as they need to be playable on the original PS5. If you have a cheap telly chances are you won’t see any difference between the vanilla and the pro.
We know the successor to the Switch will be more money than the current one, but we also know Nintendo will care more about being able to produce lots of fun games than a handful of visually stunning ones- that is in the DNA of Nintendo. I get 3rd parties may want the system more powerful, but I doubt they expect it to be £700 more powerful.
Sony... I'm less and less interested in them. What games would convince me to spend that amount of money on a console? I'd like some of what they're smoking. If I'm going to spend that amount of money on a gaming device, it'll be a ROG Ally X, not a Sony console. At least I'd be guaranteed far better gaming value for my money.
As I wrote yesterday on Pushsquare: I never been turned off more before in my life by a home console's "upgrade model". The improvements means nothing to me, and the price is enough to give me a headache. Don't even get me started on the lack of a disc drive and a vertical stand.
I stick with the original PS5 thank you very much.
On-topic: I'm not worried at all about the Switch 2's price range. If anything the PS5 Pro has, by comparision, made me as calm as a cat.😸
If Nintendo pulls this off, their next console could be the most succesfull one of all time - especially with Sony being greedy little pigs and taking advantage of their splurgy fans.
That said, Nintendo's attitude is... quirky, to say the least, so they might not act on this wonderful oppertunity at all.
I still think Switch 2 should be around $400/€400 etc. to guarantee more "casuals" to get it sooner rather than later if ever, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo sold more units than they would've even with a slightly higher price thanks to the comparison to Sony's insane price... good for Nintendo (and also others with reasonably priced systems) and shame on Sony!
€800 without a disc drive and stand is insane. It's almost double the price of the standard PS5 digital model.
I hope this doesn't succeed, because all wrong messages will be absorbed by it ("Yes, console consumers are fine with being completely ripped off")
The contrast between that video and Cerny’s fun presentation form 2020 is insane. Imagine if this thing launches without making it clear what effect it has on games like Dragon’s Dogma 2 or the increasing onslaught of janky nasty looking UE5 games that a minor spec bump can’t fix, it’s main benefit going off that short video is that it mostly benefits games that already ran well and of course PS4 ports can’t get enough of those, lets do a 60x zoom to show you how better it makes this mopey depressing game about sad people punching and screaming at each other look. They should be more concerned about being pro software and sweating bullets over the impending heat death their glorious hardware cycles are ushering in as their own studios other than Insomniac struggle to get a single game out per generation.
I was waiting for the Pro to see if they fixed the awful fan noise, but at this price I'm just going to skip the system completely. Quite done with this company at this point.
Nintendo has to be really careful with the price. PS5 Pro is not their main competition. Their competition is just general entertainment of all kinds. People won't just spend out on more of the same but with better graphics.
Thanks to Sony, a 500$ price tag for the Switch 2 will seem cheap.
Yup, agreed. Sony seems to have forgotten how game consoles should be affordable. I doubt Nintendo will make this mistake though, bet the Switch 2 will be $400, definitely $500 or less at most. Thanks to Sony, that will seem cheap.
I mean come on, the PS5 Pro is $700 without a disc drive or vertical stand. With those two things added +tax it's nearly $900. NINE HUNDRED US DOLLARS! Even more expensive for people in Europe apparently. What a joke!
I've owned every Playstation and Nintendo console but if the PS6 launches at £700 or more then I'm afraid that's where my love affair with Sony will end.
Could I afford to buy one? Yes of course
But I just can't justify that kind of outlay
Inflation comparing in today's world is a joke. For example...
The PS2 ($299 in 2000) did not feel like spending $546 in today's world. If that were the case, I wouldn't have purchased it then and still wouldn't in today's world. That's pricey for a game console. People are forgetting that when the PS2 came out, in that world you got more for your money's worth for everyday things. So if anything, we should not be inflating but deflating the cost when comparing. Totally different world 24 years ago. When the cost of living goes way up but a persons wage doesn't increase or barely does over a time span, inflation comparison is a joke and nothing more than an excuse for current higher prices.
The PS5 Pro isn't necessary anyway, I have a standard one and the graphics are incredible! No wonder game development is becoming so expensive with this obsession with better and better visuals.
The PS5 Pro prices are so bad when you compare the $699 with £ or €. Currently $699 works out to about £535 and €635 so the £699 and €799 cost is an insane rip off
@Archius9 You need to add VAT since US prices don't include it whilst UK and European prices do. Adding 20% to the converted US prices makes them £642 and €762. They're still rounding up to the nearest 100, but it's not as absurd as your numbers suggest
PS5 Pro is ridiculously priced and there’s no chance if I ever decide to get a PS5 that I’ll be going the Pro route.
That said…it is an optional higher end model and you’re not required to upgrade if you have a base PS5. I understand being frustrated by the price if you wanted that upgrade but if you want to update your hardware every few years then maybe a PC would be better for you.
At any rate I’m really not a fan of these mid-gen console refreshes…one of the best parts of console gaming has always been how developers learn the hardware over time and create more sophisticated games within the limits they’ve been set.
My Switch and PS4 each cost me £280. I'm hoping the Super Switch will come in at around £350.
I'm hoping to see some movement towards that for the PS5 Slim Standard edition as well. I've built a small library of deeply discounted second-hand PS5 games in anticipation, but maybe I'll just keep putting off buying a PS5 until the PS6.
I would like to see how good it is.
Why would someone buy a PS5 Pro when they could buy a PC? It's 100x better. There's virtually no reason to have a PS5 unless you're desperate to play the one or two time-limited exclusives.
I think back to the 3DO and its $700 price point. And that was in 1993 money (adjusted for inflation, that's over $1500 today). Like the PS5, it presented itself as the "real" game console, with the SNES and Sega Genesis being regarded as baby toys. While it did have some impressive games (like Wing Commander III) the system flopped hard, in no small part due to that hefty price.
I'm not saying the same will happen to the PS5 Pro, but with the cost of living skyrocketing and wages remaining stagnant, I don't see many people beyond a small group of people shelling out $700 for what is essentially an incremental hardware update. Especially if Sony can't pick up the pace and release more exclusives for the system (and as of right now, there's only about a dozen or so).
Of course, I didn't have to worry about buying a PS5, as I won mine in a raffle at a work party last year (and repeated my success this year with winning a 65" Samsung 4K Smart TV). I got the raffle ticket for free, put my name in the bucket for the heck of it, and luckily ended up winning. So I really don't have much need for a PS5 Pro, especially if I can play any games released in the near future on the base model.
That price is insane.. and that for a digital only.
A hard pass for me.
I seriously hope Nintendo doesnt go the digital only road.
I will save my money for the switch 2. Come one Nintendo now is the time to Counter with the switch 2 😂🥳
Sony usually sells their consoles at a loss.
I assume with this one they decided to sell it with a decent profit instead.
Personally I think it is a good decision. They have the base ps5 that they can keep on selling at a loss for people to enter their ecosystem.
They sell the ps5 pro as a premium product that will not do incredible sale numbers, but will give them a good profit.
This price point from Sony really does illustrate how out of touch Sony has become since moving their entire Entertainment division to California.
At that price point getting a gaming PC seems the more logical choice, given that a PC gives you way more freedom and you can use it for more than just playing games and streaming stuff... But hey, that's my 2 cents.
The inflation argument for the PS5 Pro is so dumb because after you add in the disc drive (like it should have had from the START), it goes over the PS3 price that was LAUGHED OFF. The PS3 was losing HARD until the price cut to $300.
Inflation is rough, that is true, but then make a product that is not as highly specced and then MAKE GOOD GAMES FOR IT. There’s a reason Nintendo sold 100+ million switches and no one is gonna buy the PS5 pro. At $700 or $780 with the disc drive, you’re approaching PC budgets which are far more useful, have cheaper games with constant steam sales, and free online. You get people to make those concessions at $500 and under. Ain’t no way that’s gonna fly at the Pro price
As for the Switch 2, I think if it’s $400-450 for PS4 pro graphics, I’ll be more than happy. Even if it has an LCD screen. I mainly play docked anyway
Edit: this is coming from someone who has a PS5 and is perfectly happy with how it is. FF7 Rebirth was fantastic. There isn’t the need for a huge jump like last gen. Heck, I’d even argue that they haven’t even optimized well enough yet. I’ve played so many games from the PS4 that STILL look amazing.
@SwitchVogel It is a crazy price for sure, but it was officially announced and is ready to go out on Nov 26, perfect for the holidays.
I am sorry but this is not making Switch 2 sell more, but the other way around.
No Switch successor being available before holidays means that a lot of people/families who would otherwise have bought the new Nintendo console will get this pricey console instead and not be willing to buy another console in the near future.
Yes, horrible price, but the timing was perfect to take advantage of Nintendo's delays.
Of course Geoff Keighley is trying to justify the asking price so he doesn’t upset Sony. Most of his Game Awards s**t is cinematic, minimal-gameplay trailers coming to that console.
The only thing the PS5 Pro has me wondering is if current upscaling tech is strong enough to allow switch games to receive a noticable upgrade on the new hardware
Again, I won’t speculate about the price when we don’t even know the system itself, let alone its specs. $400 seems best, and Nintendo always tries to be reasonable, but we’ll see. Please bring the announcement sooner rather than later…
CEOs need their super yachts, peasants.
Nintendo have always been competitive on pricing and making money on them. I don't see any different with Switch 2. Family friendly games + pricing for everyone.
£349 max in the UK I reckon, with a new game + whatever other extras looking at £399. I think that's high enough for them. Price drop on the OLED to £199.
$780 (I need the disc drive) for a "45%" improvement on these over a year old games is a big pill to swallow for the general consumer. That is pushing well PC territory for very specific usage. If I spent that on a PC (pre-built or DIY) it can play games AND do a lot of other things.
I'll stick to the base PS5 so I can utilize my PS4 disc library. Right after I get a 4k TV to take advantage of it.
I mean, they have to recover from the losses of Concord somehow, right?
As Pro as it may be, they lost me on disc drive sold separately, this isn't a laptop.
All the Sony fanboys will still buy this.
Depends on how different the ‘Switch 2’ is to the current one.
Sony revealed the PS1 to be $100 less than the Saturn after Sega revealed it.
They have failed to learn from themselves.
A better pricing strategy may have been to sell the ps5 pro at the same price as the ps5 and then lower the price of the ps5 and include the stand and drive. This whole thing has private equity / finance bros who have no idea what they’re doing outside of a spreadsheet written all over it.
For that price without a disc drive?!!!! That’s insane! I also wanted to Upgrade from my ps4, but Sony just keeps pushing graphics. If the new PS5 could natively play ps1-ps4 discs, I would buy it right away no matter the high cost, but this is plain illogical investment! Guess I will skip the ps5 gen altogether. Hope Nintendo will make better choices and if the price is high, I hope we get a serious power boost and most importantly CARTRIDGES, that can always fit full games!
Without a disk drive or vertical stand.
I paid 500 euro for my ps5 back in early 2021 .
Has disk drive and stand.
Now in 2024 a pro with all that costs me like 930 euro. Just looked up slims disk drive and its 99.99 and stand 29.99.
Could even be a different disk drive that's more pricey for pro but I don't think so.
Controllers had a sneaky price increase too thos week.
Also ps5 game that's been out close to a year is often less pricey physically. The psn store unless its on sale its massively overpriced
$699 is a reasonable price for a Pro model (aka. intended only for hardware enthusiasts) given inflation and the cost of computer components like GPUs today. Yes, it's expensive and too expensive for me, but it isn't insane. Settle down guys.
The base model is still there for mainstream gamers not concerned with 60fps or higher resolutions.
@TenEighty
Thank you I was hoping that somebody would have mentioned that. Inflation adjusted prices are ridiculous.
Just switch to Microsoft at that point. Halo MCC and Rare Replay alone make the jump worth it.
@mlt No, inflation adjusted prices are not ridiculous. Sony is a business and they want to make a profit. It doesn't matter if wages have kept pace with inflation; if the product costs more to manufacture then the price has to go up. They still have the standard PS5 for budget-conscious consumers.
Power is not free. Especially these days. If you want a powerful system, you have to pay. You see this on the PC and smartphone markets already.
Now it’s also coming to the console market. And honestly I expected it sooner.
First it's wonderful to see the crazy price of the PS3 adjusted for inflation as it's the system that got me over Sony. I remember the interview where it was basically said "yeah, we know we don't have any games at all, but we can sell your kid an expensive system even if it means mowing more lawns all summer, and they are going to love it because Sony". Second, man am I loving retro games more all the time.
I don't get why people are getting so upset about a higher-tier PS5 Pro being expensive. If Sony discontinued the base model then I would get it, but this is an optional upgrade for people who care a lot about graphics.
It's too expensive for me, so I'm not buying it. It's not for me, but I'm not upset it exists.
Oh come on man. Nintendo cares less about the PS5 Pro price than Nintendo Life does as this entire article is just an excuse for NL to "get the clicks" on the back on PS5 Pro announcement since after all these years we never got the long promised Switch Pro.
Hey Nintendo Life, did you ever write an apology to your readers for all the articles about Switch Pro you wrote and our time you wasted? Now that sounds like a worthwhile article to read. 😂
Expecting the successor to be between 300-500. Both sony and MS raising prices makes the lack of price cut for the switch make more sense. For modern pricing they seem to have found a sweet spot.
I don’t think inflation prices will benefit sony as people on tight budgets or families only see the sticker shock. Pricing for PS6 is gonna be wild.
I'm not concerned about Switch 2 ...If anything, Sony just gave Nintendo free advertising.
Nintendo has always been rather good at pricing their home consoles, unlike some others. Using cheaper hardware helps, but at this point there's not much of a difference to the average person. If they're smart, they want it to be as affordable and accessible as possible for normal, struggling people no matter the inflation or supposed 'component prices' ...because they know the more people can afford it, the more people will buy their games and sign up to NSO. Nintendo has always done their own thing and I don't see that changing no matter how awful late stage capitalism gets for all of us.
PS5 Pro price is insane.
If only I have that money, but without disc drive, that's really not awesome.
But at least I already have PS5 Fat machine, with around USD 575 I bought and I enjoy my 3rd party KIDS Games from Outright Games, Team17 , Microids, Merge Games, PQube, etc without worrying about AAA games. 😊
And the most important, I must have Barbie: Project Friendship by Outright Games to highlight my strong reason why did I buy PS5 machine.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, Outright Games for providing girlie game Barbie for my PS5 machine ! 😁
@Ryu_Niiyama that's only valid if Nintendo doesn't come in with a price hike on the Switch 2. If the Switch 2 is £300-£350/$350-400 they will clean up. But if they increase it they will need to drop the price through its life cycle.
This is why I never buy consoles until after the first price drop at least.
@Madao They only sell at a loss on initial launch. Sony announced they were no longer making a loss on the PS5 just under a year after release. Not sure if that changed though as they announced a price rise in certain regions after a further year or so.
@Quarbit it’s likely because the Pro model was not expected to be this expensive regardless of parts costs. A standard has previously been set and this is way beyond the mark the consumers expected.
In comparison to the PS4 Pro (which I purchased) was almost half the price of this, and it was nice enough to include a disk drive.
I couldn’t afford a PS5 on launch so decided to wait out for an inevitable Pro version. That this would cost me £699 + £99 for the disk drive so I can own physical media and play my PS4 back catalogue is beyond ludicrous.
It might very well be that Sony planned this as a “premium” product for upper class adopters. But this wasn’t the case with the PS4 Pro when they did a mid-gen refresh. So it’s more disappointing than anything else that there aren’t options. Releasing a product in this state genuinely has me thinking they would have been better off just waiting for the PS6 as it’s difficult to justify what they are asking.
@Mirastrix they can if the specs and hardware upgrade speaks for it.
This alone sold me on Switch 2 more than anything else. F**k Sony.
@Burning_Spear
Better you get PS5 Fat while it still available before get discontinued.
The price for PS5 Fat currently still reasonable.
My PS5 machine is also the Fat model, the first time I bought Fat model in brand new condition.
Wow😱no disc drive😳😨😰😱
And that price 😳😥😨😰😱
@rjejr
Have a cup of coffee and watch your blood pressure, lol.
I can only afford to support one gaming console and I'm glad I stuck with Nintendo.
The history of videogame console launch prices from the most expensive to the cheapest (not counting Steam Machines, PCs, dedicated handhelds, plug and plays, clone systems, arcade machines, emulation handhelds, RetroPi, add-ons, and phones):
All I had to say is if the Switch 2 launch at over $400 then I ain't buying it as I had never in my life bought any of the consoles above that cost more than $399.99 at launch.
I just hope the Switch 2 is at least 400 max
I wonder how much the new PS5Pro's price is less about what tech's in it, and more about what kickbacks they're getting from Software Sales.
Nintendo's still making tons, weekly, from sales of Mario Kart 8...
I think 399€ is a reasonable price for Switch 2, considering that Switch OLED costs 349€.
This reminds me of the Sega Saturn announcement, then the PS1 came out and just said their substantially cheaper console.
Nintendo just needs to have a 2 minute direct that just says the price.
$499 is still too much for Switch 2 but I'm starting to think that $449 could maybe work 😄
PS5 already seems very expensive to me, let alone this new pro version.
Also, is Sony now going to do a mid-generation “pro” version every generation now? Maybe not if this one bombs.
As for Switch 2, I’m not excited. Reading that it might have an LCD screen even more so. Nintendo will certainly do a Switch 2 “SP/Lite/OLED” 2 or 3 years after the initial Switch 2 launch, so just wait for that.
I think Switch 2 needs to be cheaper than the PS5 Digital Edition (£389.99) but still have a cart slot.
@spacely_sprockets Sony has been testing console refreshes since PS1. At this point it's tradition.
Ahh the graphics arms race. The "developers' vision". What happened to optimising for the device the software is supposed to be developed for? I miss those days. £700 for a few extra leaves and foliage in the distance. A neckbeard pacifier.
I'm still playing Switch games going, "wow, this game looks amazing". I'm not sure I can justify a $700 system that plays games at the a notch above what's already out there. Seems insane to me. BUT, there's plenty of people out there that have the means and can justify the price of admission.
I've been happy with Nintendo's approach.
I see the Switch 2 being priced at £350 to £400 max. I still can't see it being officially announced til February with a May 2025 release date.
I expect Metroid Prime 4 to be out in March 2025.
As for PS5 Pro it is expensive but will have a small audience until the next GTA game comes out which will improve sales.
@WiltonRoots Of course. If I can see a leaf gently swaying in the wind in 8k from 528000 feet; That's a worthy $699 investment.
The PS5 Pro costs $959.99 Canadian and that's without tax, with Ontario sales tax included it becomes over $1000! There's no I'd pay a grand for a home console that's absolutely insane. I already own a PS5 Slim so I see no reason to purchase an overpriced mid gen upgrade. With how expensive everything is nowadays there's no way to justify spending that much money on a home console that doesn't even include a disk drive.
My guess for Switch 2, £429.99
Thing is with that Switch poll, you asked if that price would be ok for a Switch successor, not a 'Pro' model, which are often considered the ".5" version, as they're not a full jump.
Would I pay that for a Switch 2? Yeah, I'm confident, especially with the current power of the Switch and Nintendo's history, that it will be a reasonable and noticeable upgrade and likely with some new twist or gimmick that I'll enjoy. Would I pay that for a Switch Pro? Nah. I didn't even think the OLED version was really worth the upgrade.
PS5 Pro is too much for too little for me. Honestly, with the level the PS5 is at right now I don't even know that I'd be willing to pay that for a PS6. I know it can be better but...does it need to be? Have you seen Space Marine 2 and Astro Bot? Are they really still not good enough? Besides that DualSense is the true star of the show. I want more time with games actually using that please. Switch...not so much, it's served me so well but it struggles from time to time. It could do with a successor so it can rest a bit.
Anyway, comparing the potential Switch 2 price to the PS5 Pro price doesn't feel quite apples and oranges, more apples and.... pears? More similar but still different things. And Nintendo is rarely as predictable as the other two anyway.
if switch 2 is more then 400 that is not good considering how inferior it will be to the current ps5 and xbox x..
@Ogbert devs want thing to get better.. that what they told sony..
@spacely_sprockets 500 for a great console as the current ps5 is reasonable considering what you get..
eventually ps5 pro price will come down in price.. would; not shock me if it is lowered to 599 at some point during the holidays..
I honestly couldnt spend more than £400 for a console and to be honest even then I'd hold for sale or even wait for second hand. My ideal price would be £350 or under. Trouble is, I know that I have to consider software as well and that quickly adds up.
as you can see by the chart inflation and japan bad economy weakness of japanese yen and european economy are making things expensive..
You can be sure they will increase their price as much as they can, now that they can call it the ‘industry standard’ like true capitalists.
sony strategy seems to be working now people who were on the fence and did not buy a ps5 are buying the current ps5.. and the disk version is selling out..
The PS5 Pro pricing has made my decision to buy or build a decent gaming PC next year much easier. Most of the games PS gets end up on PC, and I can patiently wait out timed exclusivity. Between PC and Nintendo, I will be more than set.
I watched the IGN live feed yesterday on the PS5 PRO. When the price was revealed, I just chuckled. As we near the end of this current Gen of XBOX and PS systems, cross-gen releases will be even more important; like playing on PC with scaled down settings. This is due to the fact that install bases will not grow that quickly if systems will be $700.00 USD+. The average consumer will not go for it. This situation shows Nintendo was extremely prescient with their predictions that graphics will continue to have diminishing returns starting in the 360/PS3 era and is why they started opting for less powerful/more affordable hardware. If the Switch2 can launch at $399.99 USD to $499.00 USD with backwards compatibility then it will be an easy upgrade to entice players with. Also, keeping physical media alive will be a big selling point for a lot of gamers.
@Serpenterror You can't just ignore inflation in a list like that. Yes, the Magnavox Odyssey launched at $99.99, but that's $753 in 2024. The PS5 Pro is cheaper than the Odyssey.
Nintendo would never price a console like that. And, the "PROblem" consoles that Sony releases, are just an excuse to sell the base models at a chepear price, and, on the case of the PS5, is to sell refurbished consoles at half the price, and Sony will make those refurbished consoles count as a new sell hahahaha. Both Sony and Microsoft have paved the way themselves, for the need of a true next generation of consoles, that will start with the Switch's succesor. Nintendo played it nice, there was no need for them to release a new console until now, and Sony with Microsoft, have prepared the stage for Nintendo's upcoming reveal with their latest screw ups.
@Tyranexx Ditto. I made the move to a gaming PC last week. With Steam, Game pass and Switch 2 next year, I'm set.
The Steam Deck OLED can play most modern games and costs less than £500, so I believe the Switch 2 won't cost more than that.
I think people forget how much inflation there has been and another thing is with a higher price scalpers are being eliminatede one could hope. Ofcause having a larger supply for pre-oders would be better.
in any case 500 europ is what the OLED was here in DK so i can't immagine the switch successor being less than 700 euro, which is fine by me. i'm not buying it until there's a new 3d mario and or a new fire emblem
Nintendo's long-term play will likely be, as with Switch, to have multiple systems per family.
So $399.99 seems like the reasonable price for a next-gen hybrid Nintendo console. Possibly with a somewhat more expensive premium model as well.
I could see them opting against a Switch 2 Lite and selling the original Switch as their budget/small child SKU instead.
@johnedwin Base PS5 hasn't really come down in price. If anything, prices went up for the digital model and Dualsense controllers. Considering the Pro is likely to be a high-margin, low-volume sorta product, I wouldn't expect any deals on it.
I think Nintendo will be fine as long as they don't thread the $500 price point. My prediction would be that the Switch successor will be around $400.
I'm really willing to pay 500€ for Switch 2. But there are exactly two preconditions:
1. It has to be backward compatible.
2. It has to have an OLED Screen.
I'm really worried about the 2nd point in particular. Even being a day-one-buyer of Nintendo products since 20 years or so getting no OLED with Switch 2 would hard stop me from buying it. Switch (1) is still good enough for me and my pile of shame on Switch 1 is big enough so I can wait for a Switch 2 with OLED for 3 more years (or 4,...).
It's really up to Nintendo. No room for discussion on this point.
The fact is you can't justify a price increase by talking about inflation or even more advanced hardware, because the average person's paycheck isn't inflating nearly fast enough to make that feel like the same amount of money. Nintendo has a fairly recent reminder with the 3DS of what happens when you set your price above your customers' expectations, so I hope they've taken that lesson to heart. The Switch is popular enough that a direct successor or something equally exciting could get away with a $100 price bump, but anything more than that would need to be extremely impressive to prevent them from bleeding customers.
It has to be under 500 €. It just has to be.
Maybe 449€. And I'll still find it expensive. But I'll buy it, yeah. Sure.
As someone who spent $200 on a 1TB memory card for the Switch, the additional 1.2 TB in the PS5 Pro's internal SSD makes the extra $200 seem like a good deal to me, but I really don't like that it's missing the disc drive and a stand.
If I didn't already have a PS5 I'd definitely pick up a Pro, but I really can't justify spending $700 on a slight upgrade to a console I already have, unless some store like Gamestop offers a really good trade-in deal.
And LOL at everyone calling the PS5 Pro a "scam." The PS5 slim still exists, so you haven't lost anything. The Pro is just an option for gamers who don't want to have to choose between fidelity and performance modes, along with some extra storage. It's up to each individual consumer if that's worth an extra $200. Having more options is not a bad thing.
@PikminMarioKirby totally agree this damn obsession with 4k 60fps *****. Has got us here.
Remember : THERE ARE NO KILLER GAMES FOR PS5 ! What is ps5 pro for ?
@Coxula I'm with you on this, but I really fear that the screen will be a LCD model, to cut costs of production.
And then, in a second time, an OLED model, just like the Switch.
If that's the case, maybe I'll just wait for that OLED Model, since I've got a tremendous backlog that is still waiting for a little of my time to spare.
Unlike Sony, Nintendo doesn't price gouge. They are very much a family friendly company. Granted, the Switch 2 will unlikely be anywhere close to as powerful as a PS5 Pro, which will assist its price being lower
@Ashina Knowing Nintendo it will be 449 or 499 .
@Bobobiwan Absolutely serious: I'd rather buy a 2nd (ehmmm... ok... it would be my 3rd ) Switch 1 to pass the time until Switch 2 OLED then buy a Switch 2 with LCD.
@premko1 I can accept the $449 as long as they guarantee that it will be full-backwards compatible, should have larger internal memory and an OLED display.
$499, that thing better have all I mentioned above (memory must be 1TB storage) and comes pre-installed with a free Mario game, lol
Anything more than 399 and it aint happening.
@k8sMum Nintendo certainly seems to be the clear winner for first party game exclusivity and a nice price point. But I can't play most of the 3rd party stuff that I play on Switch on my 75" 4k TV. I mean sure I can play Fortnite on Switch, but it is not good.
I don't think Switch 2 will be native 4k but w/ all of the upscaling options these days I do hope it can at least output ok to my TV and reach PS4 game quality, which most PS5 games have been up until this point. I thought I'd be too old for a Switch 2 w/ my kids moving out after college but I may make it my last console if we can finally get Mario Kart 9 and not another port of 8. And I need Galaxy 3 and not Odyssey 2 which was sort of mid.
But if you are only going to have 1 console Nintendo is probably the way to go for a wide variety of games at an affordable price.
With the amount of Software sales Nintendo get, they can afford to sell their console at quite a loss. I'm going for £399 LCD on release with an OLED version for £449 also available on release day.
@DripDropCop146 basically it’s all for bragging points on Digital Foundry. Imagine the file sizes too, consoles were supposed to be about plug n play, not installing it before going to work so you can play it when you get home, also not forgetting the longer development times trying to cram in those extra details.
This price reveal and the general price increases the PS5 has had basically means Nintendo can make the Switch 2 $50 more expensive and as of yesterday no one will blink an eye
And you too can have ray tracing on PS4 games for three easy payments of $399,99,95
Leaving out the disc drive is probably the wave of the future. Sony doesn't want you to pay $80 to buy the disc drive separately, they want you to not buy the drive and buy all of your games digitally directly from them.
I bought an Xbox in 2020 to compliment my switch as I couldn't get hold of a ps5.
Underwhelmed with Xbox, I had planned to move back to PlayStation when the pro version came out but at that price, I'll wait for the next generation of consoles.
No matter how good it is, that's too much money.
@Dazman Yeah, I really don’t understand who these “Pro” models of PlayStation and Xbox are for. If getting the absolute best performance in games is something you want then why bother with consoles? Even the exclusives argument is moot when all Xbox exclusives are on PC and most PlayStation games are ending up there eventually. I get not wanting to deal with stuff that’s inherent to playing on PC (I don’t either so I stick to consoles mainly) but then surely you just want to buy a machine and be good for the generation instead of buying a new one every few years?
Why’s Geoff here doing damage control for Sony?
Well, we can now assume the game awards are rigged.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with my current PS5 that would warrant me to go buy a PS5 Pro. Why anyone would by the PS5 Pro at that ridiculously outrageous price over just buying a PS5 is beyond me. The PS5 itself is light years better than its predecessor. Buying a PS5 Pro would just be a luxury purchase in comparison. In other words, just get a PS5. Nobody needs the Pro.
@The-Chosen-one Nintendo will continue to support physical media: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/05/nintendo-will-continue-to-support-physical-media-and-maximise-all-software-sales
I will just stick with my "1st-gen" PS5 with disc. At least they are offering an external drive for it though. They really are trying hard to phase out physical.
@rjejr
My TV is a 55" I-don't-know-what-k, lol. It's about 9 yrs old, so it's probably nothing k. But games look fine to me.
For other than Ninty games I use my Galaxy Pro Book 360 and Steam with the Pro controller. (I absolutely detest playing games with a keyboard. I can do it, but generally swear like a sailor.) Part of the reason I can only afford one gaming system is that I'm a sucker for Samsung, right down to my beloved Z Flip 5 phone.
But I'm a saint in all other aspects of my life so the obsession is ok.
My only problem is a little old lady is my IT person: me. But I'm fairly tech savvy and have loved technology since Pong. Google and I are now officially in a relationship.
There is no balance. This has nothing to do with power or performance. The PS5 pro costs $700 because Sony can charge $700, and that's how capitalisms works.
I get that people have been gaslighted from the day they are born, but it still amazes me how people believe that pricing decisions have anything to do with the product. Like the same company who's former COE just said that he was morally obligated to push for mass layoff and thinks the people who's lived he destroyed to raise the stock price need to "get over it" is having a meeting where they talk about what's "fair" to charge based on the product they are selling. Obviously not. They just ask marketing what the maximum they can charge is, and charge that.
Gamers are, without question, the most self distractive and mindless market sector, and they just spent 5+ years telling Sony they will buy anything and pay anything because they hate Microsoft. Obviously Sony is going to react by jacking up the price of everything. It's like Apple ... people have literally built their entire identify and world view around devotion to this brand, and are going to happily line up to overpay for stuff just so they can affirm that worldview. No one is paying $700 for a console. They are paying $700 to not have to admit they were wrong in believing that Sony is somehow less greedy or less evil then Microsoft.
That's why it's $700. Has nothing to do with the tech. Has nothing to do with the manufacturing cost. Has nothing to do with anything but market research into the people buying it.
Nintendo's next console will also has a price that is based more or less exclusively on market research into the people buying it. That market research is going to show that Nintendo's fan base includes far less 20-35 year old males willing to go without food to show off their brand loyalty, and that around 50,000 Yen is the tolerance point for the average family.
So we'll get a console that costs around $400 USD, because the marketing people told them that's the maximum they can safely charge.
Doesn't matter what's in it. Doesn't matter how much it costs to make. Doesn't matter what Sony is doing.
I think it's priced to pay for itself and shift the console price Overton window. I don't think it's priced to shift units. Since no games will require this specific stripe of PS5, it's not critical to sell well for third party support.
A PS6 on the other hand would need to sell well though to maintain that support. Thus, I see this as a strategy to move towards a $600 PS6 launch eventually. They tested the $500 ceiling with PS3 and got shellacked. This is a low-risk way to test that ceiling while stretching past it to make some breathing room. It's negotiating 101: set an initial term that's high enough to shift the range to where you want it but not so high that people walk away from the negotiating table.
So that a Switch 2 doesn't seem like a visual downgrade, I think Nintendo should probably have an OLED model from the start. Thus, they would get the good will of having a lower priced entry point but also not sacrificing image quality. Just like the Wii U had 32gb and 64gb variations, have a $400 base model and a $450 OLED Switch 2. Those like me who never spent the $350 to upgrade to OLED will feel like we're saving $300 to have the same visual experience as the Switch 1 OLED early adopters.
I know having a later iteration is a way to supercharge waning sales, and having an OLED model from the start prevents one option for doing that later. But there are some who will predict them to come out with one later who might wait on purchasing until they see it. Preempt that. Then release a Switch 2 Lite after 2 years or so for $300.
Companies can charge what they want, and prices simply are going to increase. I get that. But I think a big part of why video games had been so inflation resistant, is because it's so dang hard to justify buying video games when my insurance, power bill, groceries, and interest rates are all increasing.
Video games are my escape from a harsh reality, but I will give that up first when money is tight. If these companies want to drastically shrink their consumer base because they want so desperately to squeeze every tiny bit of money from anyone who dares do business with them, that's their call. But I won't have any part in it. I did the same thing with smart phones when they all topped $1000. I just am not going to go along with that. And if that means I miss out on that generation of gaming, so be it. I've got a nice Switch backlog and a PS4 slim that I have thoroughly enjoyed.
I do hope Nintendo sees the value in being competitive and creative rather than whatever Sony is doing.
I think Nintendo is quite aware of sticker shocking the customer. This is one thing I expect NOT to see from Nintendo is a $499 price on the evolutionary model. It’ll be between $299-399.
Regardless of what Sony does, Nintendo wants people to buy more than one Switch 2 console per household. Therefore I can see the LCD 128gb Switch 2 model launching at $400 for the kids, and the OLED 512gb model charging $450-500.
The question now is whether Sony's and Microsoft's greed will move the needle and make Nintendo feel safe to tack on an extra $50~ to their models across the board.
At the very least, I think all the price increases between Sony and Microsoft will indeed make Nintendo feel safe to jump the premium model SKU up to $499, even if the base kid model stays at $399.
@Diowine I don’t think there’s much overlap for the PS5 Pro and Switch target audiences. Judging by even Sony fan reactions, the audience for PS5 Pro is pretty small as it is.
@batmanbud2 PS1 and PS5 Pro launches are not comparable though. Sony has gone from being an industry outsider with Equinox as its best IP to being its standard-bearer.
@KevinP Video game hardware has been inflation-resistant because of Moore’s Law, the same reason computers have been inflation-resistant. Video game software has been inflation-resistant because gaming has become broader (more global and more mainstream) to compensate for increased development costs. But yes, high inflation is both an argument for a higher priced console (from a supply side perspective) and an argument for a lower priced console (from a demand side perspective).
Sony and Microsoft should probably learn from the example of the N64 Expansion Pak and make their consoles a tad more modular. Provide some expansion bay where new RAM can be added later or the GPU swapped out easily. That would make it honest that the goal is better performance for the gamer. It’s currently not. Their real goal is to sell more consoles, making you double dip.
Finally, for context, y’all have to remember that SNK was solvent despite the Neo Geo launching in 1991 at $650 ($1500 today). It wasn’t a “failed” console in the sense that it was their biggest one ever and had a successor. There’s a market for high-end, and as long as Sony has done its consumer research properly, they shouldn’t overproduce. These refreshes might be ways of testing out components for the next mainline console.
Keep in mind that price is without a game. You'll spend that much and it will just be a fancy paperweight.
I don’t think the Switch 2 will exceed 450 in price, and it’ll be a nice upgrade too in power. If it can manage 4K docked with DLSS magic, and a decent frame rate, and games look good then I think, if it gets the same third party support as Sony it could be a real threat to PlayStation sales, we shall have to wait and see though.
At these prices I will only be buying a switch 2 if there’s a tv only model at a reduced price.
@Thomystic yes I agree about the overlap for us Nintendo gamers with our own money. I already have a PS5 and there is no way I will buy the Pro one, only the Switch 2.
But for parents wanting to gift a nice holiday present. which is an interesting number not to be understated, I can see them gifting the new PS and most probably that same people won't even think about buying another console in the upcoming year.
I think that the first console to be released always takes at least a little share of the other's potential sales, specially if in between there is Christmas.
@Ralizah I have to disagree strongly that Nintendo would ever be content keeping the kids on Switch 1 software even after the Switch 2 launches. I believe it's a high priority for Nintendo to transition everyone to Switch 2 software as soon as the new generation launches, including kids. They need to sell the Switch 2 Splatoon to kids, the Switch 2 Pokemon games, Switch 2 Mario games, etc etc.
When the Switch originally launched, Nintendo didn't have a budget Switch Lite model as an entry-level SKU. They simply released a console at a relatively competitive price with a high value proposition, and hoped everyone would jump on the bandwagon. It was only later in the console's life cycle that they began targeting specific niches more acutely with the Lite and OLED.
I believe Nintendo will make the same bet for the Switch 2. They will simply launch a base Switch 2 model at a competitive price and try to market the $399 model for everyone including kids and budget consumers, while rumors claim Nintendo is prepping a premium SKU for launch as well.
Whenever "Switch U" comes around 399,- Zenny should be the limit. The Wii was very affordable and an amazing success and the 3DS only survived due to an early pricecut to a more digestable pricetag.
@Ulysses Well, I believe the Lite launched in 2019. That wasn't "later in the console's life" to any meaningful degree. I do think they'll probably launch one device at release, though. Nintendo traditionally releases revisions 2 - 3 after that to maintain momentum with its portable consoles.
Anyway, I don't disagree that they'll obviously want to transition people to new hardware. I just question whether they'll have a budget SKU that'll be cheap enough to hit the demographic they're aiming for, in that regard. Even with inflation, $400 isn't really 'cheap handheld range' for most people.
A lot of it really depends on how they approach the new hardware generation in terms of marketing and software compatibility. This is solidly Furukawa's Nintendo now, so I'm curious to see how it differs from their 'concept era' launches.
I hate to say it, but I hope it fails miserably; otherwise it would create a terrible precedent for the industry.
@Ralizah You make a good point. A lot fewer families with 2-3 kids will be able to immediately buy up 2-3 Switch 2 consoles at launch. Either 1 or 2 of their kids will have to continue to use their Switch 1 until the parents can afford it, so it's still good for Nintendo to support Switch 1 software in some small way during the first couple of years. Or, they will only buy one Switch 2 initially and just go back to having all the kids take turns sharing it.
Inevitably the household will turn back into the early Switch days, with all the kids fighting over the one Switch 2 in the house to take turns playing it, as the stories go. At that point controller accessories will become even more important in the early days as a more affordable way for the kids to distinguish between themselves as they share the one Switch 2.
As you say, even $399 will not be considered cheap for a lot of people. I can see the initial marketing around launch presenting the Switch 2 as a family-shared console, as in, it's the latest thing you have to buy to share with the whole family.
In fact, the games reflected this shift in marketing. The early days of the Switch launch focused on couch co-op, the kind of multiplayer you can achieve with just one console shared by multiple people. To some extent Nintendo's first-party games still keep couch co-op in mind, like with Mario Wonder, but a lot more games require one Switch per player for multiplayer as the years go on. In this vein, the early Switch 2 games may also focus on couch co-op that you can share with just one console.
Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud. And if it's this easy for an amateur to overthink it, then what must it be like for their marketing team, agonizing over every decision!
Ffft, you think that's bad? It's apparently $950 CAD up here in Canadaland, according to when I checked Twitter/X trends the other day.
Sony's gaming division biting the dust can't come soon enough at this rate. The second they shifted over to California, the cesspit of a state that it is, I was like "Lol, it's pretty much over for them and they'll have their metaphorical funeral in the next few years!", and this just confirms it for me-
@rjejr switch games wont be as affordable as sony because nintendo games do not come down in price like sony games do..
@Ulysses I can only imagine how stressful it is trying to consider every factor when launching a new console. Especially when your old one is as successful as Switch is. And, frankly, especially when you no longer have an alternative device to fall back on.
The good thing about the inevitable transition period is that the new software should hopefully all run on the new device, unlike that last batch of 3DS games that launched after the Switch dropped.
nintendo wont charge 500 for switch 2 if they did they will get blasted in all the media and on youtube one thing nintendo does not like is bad publicity.
@johnedwin Everything is relative. And Nintendo would charge $500 if they fully believed they could get away with it. Unfortunately, both Sony and Microsoft inch Nintendo closer to shifting the numbers ever higher. Thankfully they also have to consider outside competition like the Steam Deck 2, which should keep Nintendo's maximum ceiling to $500 for now.
Whoa... that's a lot.
Switch 2 will be $450 max. I'm still banking on it being $400. You gotta remember, Sony has been REALLY egregious with their pricing this generation alone. (Raising the prices on consoles, controllers, PS+ while adding nothing worthy to the service, an expensive VR headset that's not even bc etc etc). Sony has really become the Apple of the gaming industry.
I just can't see Nintendo following suit. Even the Switch OLED was only $50 more, if that was Sony it would be at least $100 more.
I mean I already paid that for the base Ps5 after I had to add a TB to get it to 2 TB.
So they took out the stand and disc drive (while talking about increases ps4 performance even though many PS4 players have physical libraries) so it’s really $800. As a PS5 owner I don’t see the value add personally.
Either way it is free PR for Nintendo. If folks get mad at the successor then they have other options. More expensive options.
That's a lot of clamps! 💰
I could buy a steam deck for about that much! 💰💰💰
whatever the switch successor's cost is, offer a "consolized" version as well for 100-200 less than that and everyone will be happy. 👍
Nintendo consoles tend to be cheaper than their competition. They don’t focus on chasing the biggest specs and focus on producing quality enjoyable games.
No I’m not expecting Nintendo to “PS3 it” or more recently the PS5 Pro lol. Wouldn’t be surprised if $400 was the launch.
Reminder Switch never a had a single price increase unlike Sony. Nintendo’s gameplan is to make their entire ecosystem flourish. Buy their system and then buy their games. A stupid expensive console only prevents them from buying their games.
At that price may as well just get a gaming PC…at least it would be upgradeable in the future.
I would never buy a $500 Switch 2. No matter how incredible the hardware is. I like the Switch because the games are fun and the console is portable and much less expensive. The Switch less impressive graphics is a well balanced trade-off and mighty fine by me.
I have been gaming for well over 20 plus years now (yes, im that old) during that time, i have seen many things video game related, the rise, fall and rise again of Nintendoo or the Sony scam of a price for the PS3.
Since then, i stopped buying Sony hardware, (I've had a few machines by trading them for other things tho) my point being: i think it is reasonably safe to say that i will never buy Sony's hardware ever again thanks to their greedy ways.
Sony's arrogance knows no bounds. Remember when everyone was sucking up to them after E3 2013? They responded by charging for online, blocking crossplay, and censoring games. And even this year they spent millions on that flop Concord and barely marketed Astro Bot, and even screwed with their one success Helldivers 2 with the forced PSN requirement.
Sony is never a consumer-friendly company.
They're charging a premium for a system that's lacking features of the base version. Typically a deluxe model should come with everything the base model has, because you're paying more in the first place.
Buy the PS5Pro and you're paying a premium for the opportunity to pay more to play the physical discs, paying a premium to pay more to stand the console up.
This stinks of greed, the inability to deliver better performing hardware at an affordable price, the desire to push it out anyway, and to foist the costs onto the consumer.
Sony: Gets cocky after PS2, $599 console in 2006
Xbox: Gets cocky after Xbox 360, pushes for an always online console
Sony: Gets cocky after PS4, releases a tablet that's just a second screen (something the Vita could do for PS3 and PS4) for $200 and has a mid gen refresh that's an extra $200 compared to the base model that plays the same games.
Even the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X's had competitive prices! They 100% can't blame inflation.
The Switch OLED is $350 USD. So Switch 2 is going to be more than that.
I see LCD Steam Deck on sale right now for under $500 USD.
$400 would be around what the original Switch was at launch, adjusted for inflation today. That would be an incredible price.
$450 would be accepted if the specs are impressive.
$500 or more and it's a less "WOW"-level compelling "sweeping the Internet" sort of price.
But if there are similar "Lite" versions launching at the same time, at $400 or lower, that might work.
$400 though, if they can do it. It would really be something. "Half the price of PS5 Pro!" (with disc drive and stand) would be great marketing.
@johnedwin Which devs? Who? The several thousand people at all the Sony studios? the thousands more at third parties? Or just a handful of spokespeople?
Either way. Yeah I'm sure they do! More tech and power either allows them to do more, or, do the same with less focus on optimisation and efficiency. But regardless, they all still have to make them work for the regular PS5 too so it's kinda moot.
Laughter is good for the mental health so my husband and I had a good laugh over the price of the new PS5 console. Happily sticking with my original PS5 for that amount, and it has a disc drive.
So many people are going to be surprised and/or disappointed when Nintendo's next console is sub-$400 (and I don't mean $399) and doesn't have the specs they want.
@Ulysses the Steam Deck isn’t competition. The PC handheld market barely is a pebble in PC gaming. Nintendo considers mobile phones more competition than Steam.
How much AI-upscaling?
"...some."
I could see Nintendo selling the 2nd gen, backward-compatible, Switch at $399. With BC, they can then keep the OG Switch and OLED on the shelves for $299 and $350 respectively.
@k8sMum "Google and I are now officially in a relationship."
Google is a slut and is only using you for your data. 😉
Your 9 yr old tv is most likely 1080p, which seems to be either or neither 1k or 1.5k but not 2k.
TVs do seem to matter more than people talk about I think. When we had a Wii we had a big ole 250 pound 36" square tv, and the Wii and PS2 looks great on it. When we got the PS3 we upgraded to a 52" 1080p TV and the Wii was nearly unplayable to me, everything looked like brown mud. Well not Smash or Mario Kart, there is no color brown in those. But it wasn't good. Was glad for the Wii U. And the PS4. When we got the PS5 a few years ago we went 4k and upgraded to 75", helped by it being covid and I wanted to watch Godzilla vs Kong on a really big tv.
I'm guessing your TV and Switch are perfect together. And the Switch 2 will probably be fine as well. Don't bother spending $700 on a PS5 Pro though, it will probably still look like the Switch on that tv. 😂
What's insane about it? That's a ridiculous headline.
Interesting this is just the refresh console price. What will the PS6 cost?
Also inflation pricing comparisons are so dumb. If you asked someone in 1995 or whatever to come up with $250 it still seemed reasonable. The actual number still weighs into the value proposition in people’s minds. I wonder if consoles will find a way to be like cell phones where you get people paying on installment plans with upgrade options every few years
In many people's minds Switch to Switch 2 will be seen as a bigger upgrade when compared to the PS5 to PS5 Pro. If the price of the Switch 2 is right, and you can also play your old Switch games, it will print money for Nintendo.
@Coxula Nothing to be shame of , I already got 5 Switches and 1 Lite ...
@EriXz I`m surely older : I started gaming in 1986 with Atari ( I think it was 65xe )
@TenEighty and back then DVD players were very expensive too. The PS2 was a good deal for a next gen system and next gen media player.
I was fortunate to get a slim w/drive spiderman 2 bundle in April for $450. Held off a long time because I have a ps4pro and just didn’t see enough new content for ps5. It was wanting to play FF7 Rebirth that finally moved me. $800 just unreal. I think all it will do is push more people that we’re waiting to upgrade to go with ps5 slim. I don’t really think Sony expects to sell a lot of these, its a Tesla when most of us can only afford a Toyota hybrid.
@rjejr Google is a slut and is only using you for your data. 😉
I didn't say is was a good relationship.
I miss good PlayStation. Nintendo doesn't have any real competition right now. The industry is at its best when at least two players are doing good.
Switch 2 (or whatever they officially name it) will be $499.99 USD. It HAS to be in order to stay even remotely competitive spec-wise to it's competitors - which include the Steam Deck and other PC handhelds. It's a different marketplace than when the Switch launched.
Looking forward to buying a Switch 2 at whatever price they charge for it 🥳
The $778 price for the PS3 is for the 20GB launch model. The 60GB launch model price, adjusted for inflation, would be a whopping $934.
But the launch model "fat" PS3 with hardware PS2 compatibility (and emulated PS1 compatibility), lots of ports, etc. is a nice system. It started out as one of the more affordable Blu-Ray players. Eventually it could play every numbered Final Fantasy game from I through XIV. I am hoping we'll see the (underrated imho) FFXIII trilogy on Switch sometime, but it still looks great on PS3.
https://www.ign.com/articles/how-ps5-pros-price-compares-with-other-launch-consoles
@Ultimapunch The only PlayStation that competes near the Switch's price point is PS4, which was still being manufactured in 2024 and is getting new/cross-gen games until 2025. Refurb PS5s may also compete. Sadly the PSVita/TV was the end of Sony's real handheld/hybrid line (the Portal being a remote play device only), but I see the Switch as a terrific spiritual successor/replacement.
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