@kobashi100 when Zombi U re-released as Zombi on PS4 XB1, it launched at $20 ( Canadian,so it was probably $15US). One example, and there are others.... but I generally agree with the point you're making. Its true more often than not.
I finished this game on PS4 and went back to get all the trophies. I quite enjoyed it. That being said, I do think this is one that will suffer without the analogue triggers. Its one of those games with an intentionally awkward control scheme that is basically the source of all the challenge (and usually comedy, in these types of games), but that awkward control scheme is further gimped by digital triggers, leading to more frustration than would be experienced on other platforms.
Not only are the buttons on the left joycon more than adequate for playing 2d platformers and the like, they're superior to the D pad on the pro controller. Fact. People complain entirely too much over stupid things.
I had ordered the white joycon shells back in the summer, but they got lost in the mail. When I contacted the company 2 weeks ago, they offered me the white with Dpad, so hopefully be recieving these soon
I enjoyed this one on PS4, and to a slightly lesser extent on the Vita (controls weren't well suited to Vita, with its lack of triggers...). I won't be buying it again, but interested to see how it turns out on Switch. This could be one that suffers with the lack of analogue triggers. Was an enjoyable game on PS4, though.
For 2D Mario, I take 3 over World. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I played 3 as kid when it was new, but didn't have a SNES so didn't play World until way later as a young adult. World is a great game, but doesn't have the nostalgia factor for me.
For 3D, I had to think a while between Odyssey and 64. I think if I was comparing 64 as I felt about it back in '96 to Odyssey, 64 would win out, but there are aspects of it that don't hold up well today. 1. Odyssey 2. 64 3. 3 4. Galaxy 5. World
Mostly docked, when available. Spla2oon I find almost unplayable in handheld mode. Odyssey I played through the whole story docked. I do play a lot of Tetris in handheld mode though. Tabletop is junk. The important take away here is not that more people prefer this mode or that, it's that you can play however you want, whenever you want.
I ended up ordering a physical copy after I saw it was available.... Its gonna stay sealed on the shelf for a while though. Got tons more Mario to play, then Doom, and LA Noire, and RE... Might get to Poi on my Christmas vacation, depending on the Zelda DLC release date. Definitely a different story than the Wii U's first yearn
@Agramonte I thought Nintendo had a policy against talking about eShop sales numbers. Not saying I agree with the policy, but it might not be a case of the dev avoiding the numbers to add a marketing spin, I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to divulge them. With games on Nintendo platforms it's quite common to see indie devs talk about sales relative to other platforms or expectations simply because they aren't allowed to be more specific.
@MsgBoardGamer if you're saying it can't be defined, then what's your surefire trick to avoid it? With M rated games, we've clearly labeled them. They can be easily avoided. If you don't like em, don't play em. That is a fair statement.
With shovelware, while I'm sure most of us who are spending time on sites like this are wary enough to not be duped, the average consumer is gonna get caught from time to time, (that's why the shovelware business model exists). By the time you've discovered it's shovelware, you've spent your money. "If you don't like it, don't play it", you say? Oh, well thanks for that, tips...
I'm not talking about a yearly franchise like Just Dance, that some would dismiss as lazy or casual. I'm talking about small companies that try to flood a platform with no effort games that cost nothing to produce hoping only to make a quick buck off people who don't know any better. If you're denying these types of predatory practices are occuring, you're living under a rock.
@MsgBoardGamer I'm not trying to argue the fact that people's tastes in video games is subjective. What I am questioning is your assertion that "if you don't like it, don't play it" with regards to M rated games vs shovelware is a double standard. It is not. One is clearly labeled as to what it is, and thus can be easily avoided. You were the one who wanted to make this about shovelware.
@MsgBoardGamer you've just made a horribly uneducated false equivalence, is all. Its fair to say if you don't like M rated games, don't play them, because they are CLEARLY LABLED as such. Nobody has any reason to download a game and then find out, surprise surprise, it's a rated M title. Shovelware, however, is designed to blend in with the quality games... Its entirely possible for someone to download a game they think looks promising only to find out that whatever budget the game had was spent entirely on the box art and the trailer, and the game itself was cobbled together with stock Unity assets by someone who took a basic programming course in high school. That's basically the whole business model. Pump out games on the cheap and hope enough people who don't know any better will pick it up. That hurts consumer confidence, which in turn hurts sales of quality games, which affects 3rd parties deciding to release games on the platform. Shovelware is bad for everyone.
When RCMADIAX is willing to list in his product descriptions the he pumps out 12-15 games a year by flipping stock assets, you will then have valid comparison. Or maybe we just need a "rated S for Shovelware" logo... I could get onboard with that.
@MsgBoardGamer you claim to have been playing for over 30 years, yet you forget the lessons of the video game market crash of the 80s. I'm not making this up, its already happened once. When you allow the market to be saturated with crap, the good games get burried and consumer confidence is eroded. If consumers don't have the confidence to buy games from your platform, you're gonna have a much harder time convincing legit developers to release their game on your platform.
How many games has RCMADIAX released across the Wii U and 3DS in the last couple years? I don't care who you are, you can't put in the required effort to make a game worthy of selling and keep up his release schedule. Rating has nothing to do with it. When RCMADiAX comes to Nintendo and says, " hey, I know I just released 2 games last week, but I've I got 3 more ready to go this week!" , Nintendo should be telling him to go pound sand.
The difference between a rated M title and shovelware being that the rated M title is easily identified by the rating, and thus easily avoidable. When shovelware floods the eShop, it becomes harder to discern the "real" games from the crap, which has the effect of giving the whole eShop a poor reputation. If the eShop, deservedly or otherwise, gains the reputation as being home to only shovelware, the good developers won't put their games on it to avoid being "guilty by association"... Shovelware is bad for everyone. If Nintendo would tell "devs" like RCMADIAX to take their garbage elsewhere, and the eShop becomes known as a curated collection of high quality games, more talented indie devs will want their games on the eShop.
I was looking at this one yesterday after I finished Golf Story. Ended up going with Wulverblade, but this one is definitely still on the radar. Looks interesting.
VB had a few great games in its small library. I still dig mine out a couple times a year. I don't know about new games for it, but I still think it's criminal that Nintendo didn't release VB VC games on 3DS.
Mario, DOOM, LA Noire, and RE Collection are all day one for me. Sonic and Skyrim are maybes. Probably pick up Monopoly to play with the family. Plus that Mudds collection...
I just watched an older show on Netflix in the last week or so and noticed one of the characters drinking a soft drink with Mario on the can. I tried pausing it to see what the brand was and couldn't make it out, but this is definitely the same can. Can't for the life of me think of what show it was, though....couldn't have been very good...
Edit: Gilmore Girls, maybe? My wife watches that show all the time. I think it was the daughter drinking it...
Nothing for me this week. Still working on Golf Story and a couple games on the SNES Classic, plus the SplatFest this weekend... I'm swamped. Gotta get caught up before Mario comes out. Stardew is a later buy.... Maybe over Christmas break.
Had it on PS3, really enjoyed, but only ever got about 3/4 way through. Might be one i'd double dip on though... More likely to finish it if I could take it on the go
If this had come out last year, it would have been a day one purchase. Not now. The Switch version is far superior and definitely the definitive portable version.
Loved this game on PS4, and definitely buying on Switch, but I'm interested in more details in how the multiplayer download will be treated. As I am not a MP fan and won't be playing online, I hope the 9Gig download is handled more as an optional, DLC style download, and preferably not an update. Not a huge deal either way, but if it's an optional download that I can skip and still get further updates, that would be super...
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Re: Review: DOOM (Switch)
@kobashi100 when Zombi U re-released as Zombi on PS4 XB1, it launched at $20 ( Canadian,so it was probably $15US). One example, and there are others.... but I generally agree with the point you're making. Its true more often than not.
Re: Review: Octodad: Dadliest Catch (Switch eShop)
I finished this game on PS4 and went back to get all the trophies. I quite enjoyed it. That being said, I do think this is one that will suffer without the analogue triggers. Its one of those games with an intentionally awkward control scheme that is basically the source of all the challenge (and usually comedy, in these types of games), but that awkward control scheme is further gimped by digital triggers, leading to more frustration than would be experienced on other platforms.
Re: 1-2 Switch Update Adds Video Sharing Functionality
But.... Nothing actually happens on the screen...
Huh.
Re: Your Joy-Con Can Now Have a D-Pad if You’re Brave Enough
Not only are the buttons on the left joycon more than adequate for playing 2d platformers and the like, they're superior to the D pad on the pro controller. Fact. People complain entirely too much over stupid things.
Re: Your Joy-Con Can Now Have a D-Pad if You’re Brave Enough
I had ordered the white joycon shells back in the summer, but they got lost in the mail. When I contacted the company 2 weeks ago, they offered me the white with Dpad, so hopefully be recieving these soon
Re: Octodad: Dadliest Catch is Inked In for a Switch Release
I enjoyed this one on PS4, and to a slightly lesser extent on the Vita (controls weren't well suited to Vita, with its lack of triggers...). I won't be buying it again, but interested to see how it turns out on Switch. This could be one that suffers with the lack of analogue triggers. Was an enjoyable game on PS4, though.
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Mario Game?
For 2D Mario, I take 3 over World. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that I played 3 as kid when it was new, but didn't have a SNES so didn't play World until way later as a young adult. World is a great game, but doesn't have the nostalgia factor for me.
For 3D, I had to think a while between Odyssey and 64. I think if I was comparing 64 as I felt about it back in '96 to Odyssey, 64 would win out, but there are aspects of it that don't hold up well today.
1. Odyssey
2. 64
3. 3
4. Galaxy
5. World
Re: You Won't Be Able To Download L.A. Noire Without A MicroSD Card
@AlexOlney I knew you'd get it <3
Boggles my mind that people try to defend this practice.
Re: You Won't Be Able To Download L.A. Noire Without A MicroSD Card
Ahh...FFS. it would be one thing if the cards weren't big enough, but choosing to use a smaller one is a piss off.
Re: Nintendo Refuses To Confirm If Animal Crossing: Pocket Camp Will Connect To Console Outings
Doo ittt....
Re: Bethesda Adopts "Popular Internet Saying" To Promote DOOM On Switch
Rumoured for years, its finally here.... NINTENDOOM!
Re: Nintendo Gamers Prefer Using Switch As A Handheld Rather Than Docked
Mostly docked, when available. Spla2oon I find almost unplayable in handheld mode. Odyssey I played through the whole story docked. I do play a lot of Tetris in handheld mode though. Tabletop is junk. The important take away here is not that more people prefer this mode or that, it's that you can play however you want, whenever you want.
Re: Review: Poi: Explorer Edition (Switch)
I ended up ordering a physical copy after I saw it was available.... Its gonna stay sealed on the shelf for a while though. Got tons more Mario to play, then Doom, and LA Noire, and RE... Might get to Poi on my Christmas vacation, depending on the Zelda DLC release date. Definitely a different story than the Wii U's first yearn
Re: Review: Poi: Explorer Edition (Switch)
Added to the Wishlist for after Odyssey.... And LA Noire, and DOOM... Then Poi! Maybe...
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - Halloween Edition
@SLIGEACH_EIRE you should seek help, dude.
+1 for Odyssey.
Re: Nintendo Download: 26th October (North America)
Its finally here!! GALAXY BLASTER CODE RED!!
Re: OJO, The 'World's First' Switch Micro-Projector, Launches Its Indiegogo Campaign
Besides the fact that the specs are garbage, strapping a projector bulb to a switch is just a dumb idea.
Re: Talking Point: An Era Ends As Nintendo Continues to Ignore 3D on the 3DS
3D 4 Lyfe.
Re: Animal Crossing for Mobile is All Set for a Nintendo Direct Reveal This Week
I'll pay $10 for a half decent AC game on mobile... I won't support micro payment BS. Hope this goes the Super Mario Run route...
Re: Massive Nintendo Switch System Update - Version 4.0.0 - Adds Video Capture and More
@BLP_Software came to mention the controller update.... Wonder what it actually does?
Re: Sony is Publishing Indie Title, Tiny Metal, on the Switch
Hmmm... Indie Advance Wars sounds good. I'll be keeping an eye out for this
Re: Soapbox: Breath Of The Wild Is Amazing, But Is It The Game That Zelda Enthusiasts Expected?
Its the Zelda game I didn't know I wanted.
Re: The Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle Ultra Challenge Pack DLC is Now Live
I'll buy this eventually, but I think I'm waiting for the story pack. Too much else to play right now and in the coming month.
Re: The Flame in the Flood Has "Smashed" Its Launch Targets on the Switch eShop
@Agramonte I thought Nintendo had a policy against talking about eShop sales numbers. Not saying I agree with the policy, but it might not be a case of the dev avoiding the numbers to add a marketing spin, I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to divulge them. With games on Nintendo platforms it's quite common to see indie devs talk about sales relative to other platforms or expectations simply because they aren't allowed to be more specific.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer if you're saying it can't be defined, then what's your surefire trick to avoid it? With M rated games, we've clearly labeled them. They can be easily avoided. If you don't like em, don't play em. That is a fair statement.
With shovelware, while I'm sure most of us who are spending time on sites like this are wary enough to not be duped, the average consumer is gonna get caught from time to time, (that's why the shovelware business model exists). By the time you've discovered it's shovelware, you've spent your money. "If you don't like it, don't play it", you say? Oh, well thanks for that, tips...
I'm not talking about a yearly franchise like Just Dance, that some would dismiss as lazy or casual. I'm talking about small companies that try to flood a platform with no effort games that cost nothing to produce hoping only to make a quick buck off people who don't know any better. If you're denying these types of predatory practices are occuring, you're living under a rock.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer I'm not trying to argue the fact that people's tastes in video games is subjective. What I am questioning is your assertion that "if you don't like it, don't play it" with regards to M rated games vs shovelware is a double standard. It is not. One is clearly labeled as to what it is, and thus can be easily avoided. You were the one who wanted to make this about shovelware.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer you've just made a horribly uneducated false equivalence, is all. Its fair to say if you don't like M rated games, don't play them, because they are CLEARLY LABLED as such. Nobody has any reason to download a game and then find out, surprise surprise, it's a rated M title. Shovelware, however, is designed to blend in with the quality games... Its entirely possible for someone to download a game they think looks promising only to find out that whatever budget the game had was spent entirely on the box art and the trailer, and the game itself was cobbled together with stock Unity assets by someone who took a basic programming course in high school. That's basically the whole business model. Pump out games on the cheap and hope enough people who don't know any better will pick it up. That hurts consumer confidence, which in turn hurts sales of quality games, which affects 3rd parties deciding to release games on the platform. Shovelware is bad for everyone.
When RCMADIAX is willing to list in his product descriptions the he pumps out 12-15 games a year by flipping stock assets, you will then have valid comparison. Or maybe we just need a "rated S for Shovelware" logo... I could get onboard with that.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer you claim to have been playing for over 30 years, yet you forget the lessons of the video game market crash of the 80s. I'm not making this up, its already happened once. When you allow the market to be saturated with crap, the good games get burried and consumer confidence is eroded. If consumers don't have the confidence to buy games from your platform, you're gonna have a much harder time convincing legit developers to release their game on your platform.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer
How many games has RCMADIAX released across the Wii U and 3DS in the last couple years? I don't care who you are, you can't put in the required effort to make a game worthy of selling and keep up his release schedule. Rating has nothing to do with it. When RCMADiAX comes to Nintendo and says, " hey, I know I just released 2 games last week, but I've I got 3 more ready to go this week!" , Nintendo should be telling him to go pound sand.
Re: Nintendo is Reportedly Eager to See More Mature Games on the Switch
@MsgBoardGamer
The difference between a rated M title and shovelware being that the rated M title is easily identified by the rating, and thus easily avoidable. When shovelware floods the eShop, it becomes harder to discern the "real" games from the crap, which has the effect of giving the whole eShop a poor reputation. If the eShop, deservedly or otherwise, gains the reputation as being home to only shovelware, the good developers won't put their games on it to avoid being "guilty by association"... Shovelware is bad for everyone. If Nintendo would tell "devs" like RCMADIAX to take their garbage elsewhere, and the eShop becomes known as a curated collection of high quality games, more talented indie devs will want their games on the eShop.
Re: The Flame in the Flood Has "Smashed" Its Launch Targets on the Switch eShop
I was looking at this one yesterday after I finished Golf Story. Ended up going with Wulverblade, but this one is definitely still on the radar. Looks interesting.
Re: Talking Point: What Games Are You Playing This Weekend? - The Triumphant(?) Return
Mostly Golf Story, but I might go back to Mario + Rabbids, chip away at the challenge levels.
Re: Guide: How to Use Two or More Micro SD Cards in Your Switch for Limitless Storage
Were there people that actually needed this explained to them?
Re: Feature: Nintendo Life eShop Selects - September 2017
I've really been enjoying Golf Story. Lots of fun
Re: The Nintendo Virtual Boy Could Be Getting New Software
VB had a few great games in its small library. I still dig mine out a couple times a year. I don't know about new games for it, but I still think it's criminal that Nintendo didn't release VB VC games on 3DS.
Re: Review: Tumblestone (Switch eShop)
And @SLIGEACH_EIRE is first in line to cry about it. Surprise surprise...
Re: Feature: The Biggest Nintendo Switch Retail Games of 2017 - Fall / Winter Edition
Mario, DOOM, LA Noire, and RE Collection are all day one for me. Sonic and Skyrim are maybes. Probably pick up Monopoly to play with the family. Plus that Mudds collection...
Re: Star Fox 2 Set To Be The 19th SNES Title To Sell A Million (Kind Of)
Copies of SMW and SMAS sold as a pack in with the original SNES count towards their numbers... Gotta count pack in copies of SF2...
Re: Random: Drinks Company Hints At Undiscovered Super Mario Easter Egg
I just watched an older show on Netflix in the last week or so and noticed one of the characters drinking a soft drink with Mario on the can. I tried pausing it to see what the brand was and couldn't make it out, but this is definitely the same can. Can't for the life of me think of what show it was, though....couldn't have been very good...
Edit: Gilmore Girls, maybe? My wife watches that show all the time. I think it was the daughter drinking it...
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th October (North America)
Nothing for me this week. Still working on Golf Story and a couple games on the SNES Classic, plus the SplatFest this weekend... I'm swamped. Gotta get caught up before Mario comes out. Stardew is a later buy.... Maybe over Christmas break.
Re: Nintendo Aims to Heat Things Up With Its Latest Zelda: Breath of the Wild Free Gift
@SLIGEACH_EIRE yeah bud, we're all just rolling in our free apples and wooden shields, laughing at the peasant Wii U players. Eye roll
Seriously though, don't you ever get tired of whining over meaningless crap?
Re: Review: BUTCHER (Switch eShop)
Sweet... Had my eye on this, just waiting on one good review. Playing this right after Golf Story.
Re: Poll: A Retro Quest - Were You Able to Buy a Super NES Classic Edition / SNES Mini?
My pre-order shipped Thursday evening. Should see it Monday!
Re: Review: Golf Story (Switch eShop)
Not generally a fan of RPGs, or golf games that don't star Mario, but this game is great. Really enjoying it so far. Best indie I've played on Switch.
Re: Switch US Retail Game Sales 'On Pace' for Nintendo's Best Launch Year Since 1995
NINTENDOOOMED!
seriously. Can't wait to play DOOM again on Switch...
Re: Rumour: Source Who Leaked L.A. Noire Switch Port Drops Hint That Grand Theft Auto V Is Next
Had it on PS3, really enjoyed, but only ever got about 3/4 way through. Might be one i'd double dip on though... More likely to finish it if I could take it on the go
Re: Review: Minecraft: New Nintendo 3DS Edition (New 3DS)
If this had come out last year, it would have been a day one purchase. Not now. The Switch version is far superior and definitely the definitive portable version.
Re: Reminder: Arcade Archives Mario Bros. is Out Today
I feel like this is the type of stuff that should be available with the Gold coins on My Nintendo....
Re: Super Mario Kart Nearly Became F-Zero 2
I thought this was fairly common knowledge at this point. We knew this a long time ago.
Re: DOOM Will Be 720p When Docked, And Unsurprisingly There's No 'Motion' Aiming
Loved this game on PS4, and definitely buying on Switch, but I'm interested in more details in how the multiplayer download will be treated. As I am not a MP fan and won't be playing online, I hope the 9Gig download is handled more as an optional, DLC style download, and preferably not an update. Not a huge deal either way, but if it's an optional download that I can skip and still get further updates, that would be super...